Yes, playing politics with Tomb of Unknown is offensive

On Memorial Day, Vice President Joe Biden will handle the somber duty of laying a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery, while President Obama will mark the day at a national cemetery back home in Illinois.

A few hours ago, Erick Erickson, CNN’s house conservative and founder of Redstate.org, decided that this represented a political opportunity that he should not miss.

He tweeted:

“Obama skipping the Tomb of the Unknowns this weekend for Chicago is offensive. Chicago can wait. The Commander-in-Chief has a job to do.”

Pretty quickly, it was established that President Reagan had occasionally skipped annual duties at the Tomb.

As had President George H.W. Bush.

As had the more recent President Bush.

Caught red-handed, Erickson has just responded with another tweet:

“Diff b/w Reagan and Bush not going to Tomb and Obama? No one questioned their support for soldiers and belief in American Exceptionalism.”

Man oh man.

In itself, the incident is of little import. You could file it under IOKIYAR — “It’s OK if You Are Republican” — and forget about it. But I note it because it reflects all too well the childishness and pettiness that has come to infect American politics. Really, is this the best we can do? Has the capacity to feel shame disappeared?

But there’s also something deeper here. Erickson, Glenn Beck and others have tried to use this as an excuse to attack a president they don’t like. Fine, they don’t like him. But in trying to politicize a sacred national rite, haven’t they done precisely what they accuse Obama of doing? Is the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier really just another ground from which to launch political attacks?

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Cutty

May 25th, 2010
5:27 pm

atltrafficqueen

May 25th, 2010
5:29 pm

Yes, people are shameless. Erick Erickson, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Pat Buchanan, Newt Gingrich are the first to come to mind.

Cutty

May 25th, 2010
5:29 pm

“Diff b/w Reagan and Bush not going to Tomb and Obama? I never questioned their support for soldiers and belief in American Exceptionalism.”

Fixed Erickson’s tweet.

joan

May 25th, 2010
5:33 pm

I am glad he is not going. For him to go would be the height of hypocrisy. The man spits on all things American and is not fit to lay a wreath on the tomb of a brave man.

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
5:35 pm

He should attend and he should lay the wreath. He is Commander in Chief and this is a time when our sons and daughters are in harm’s way in foreign wars. This is not a Democrat or a Republican thing.

Jay

May 25th, 2010
5:35 pm

Thank you Joan, for weighing in, and for refusing to turn such a rite into an excuse for partisan politics.

mike

May 25th, 2010
5:36 pm

Of course Jay is right about this case. His criticisms might carry some weight if they were not inevitably directed at conservatives. By training his fire on one side exclusively, he demonstrates that his selective outrage is just an excuse to attack people who don’t share his views. Are we really to believe that Jay sees no such hypocrisy among liberal pundits?

Most Americans recognize that partisan pundits like Jay and Erickson are two sides of the same coin and find the false outrage coming from both sides equally pathetic. My only question is whether Jay knows this and is just pandering to the far left audience or if he is so overcome by partisanship that he genuinely believes that “his side” is really any different than “their side”.

Kamchak

May 25th, 2010
5:36 pm

But in trying to politicize a sacred national rite, haven’t they done precisely what they accuse Obama of doing? Is the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier really just another ground from which to launch political attacks?

Yes.

Another episode of one word answers to simple questions.

DoggoneGA

May 25th, 2010
5:36 pm

” is not fit to lay a wreath on the tomb of a brave man.”

How do you know he was brave? When he was buried there he was unknown. He is there to represent all in the armed forces who died in battle…his own bravery is not part of the equation.

Rightwing Troll

May 25th, 2010
5:37 pm

Since Newt has been mentioned quite a few times recently…

I see the current crop of “conservatives” is drafting thier own “Contract with America” I wonder if they will discard it as quickly as Newt and Co. did in 94′?

Matilda

May 25th, 2010
5:37 pm

What a TOOL! (Apply the term to this Erickson person, and to the Joan person at 5:33 who cites a very ugly and biased opinion as if it were a fact that existed outside the tiny, bigoted little minds of haters.)

AmVet

May 25th, 2010
5:37 pm

I’ve never seen a thing about this Erick the Buffoon, other than what I have read here.

That seems like a VERY good thing.

Another clueless, never done nothing of import nobody trying to pretend otherwise?

How many do we need?

Saul Good

May 25th, 2010
5:39 pm

Difference between them? Obama never “sent” them into an unnecessary war which he called for and started.

mike

May 25th, 2010
5:40 pm

AmVet –

“I’ve never seen a thing about this Erick the Buffoon, other than what I have read here.”

I will second that and I am a right wing nut.

Why is Jay taking the soapbox he has been granted and wasting it by pointing out the hypocrisy of a guy who nobody knows or cares about? Somehow pundits have come to think that we really care about pundits. We don’t. We care about issues and policies.

AmVet

May 25th, 2010
5:43 pm

Mike, I did a little research and I was wrong. He IS somebody!

“The London Telegraph named Erickson the sixty-fifth most influential conservative in America in 2010.”

65th!!! WOO HOO!!!

My question is, who are those other 64 lamebrains ahead of him???

D-Boe

May 25th, 2010
5:44 pm

I recall family members of Iraq war vets having to buy them their own kevlar vests and other protections for their Humvees because the military (Commander-in-Chief) didn’t provide them. I think that goes directly to whether a President actually supports the troops or not. Jus sayin.

saywhat?

May 25th, 2010
5:44 pm

“Diff b/w Reagan and Bush not going to Tomb and Obama? No one questioned their support for soldiers and belief in American Exceptionalism.”

And only rabid rightwing morons blinded by partisanship question Obama’s support for soldiers. As for American Exceptionalism, you can keep that jingoistic crap as far away from the presidency as possible please. (Nice non-sequitur by the “brilliant” Erickson. WTF does American Exceptionalism have to do with laying a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknowns anyway?)

joan

May 25th, 2010
5:44 pm

The guy in that tomb is there of symbolize the courageous fighting men of our country who gave their lives so that we might destroy this country from within, rather than have it destroyed from without. To infer he might not have been brave is so very much this generation of fools. And yes, Jay, everything political is partisan. You know that. Obama is better off in Chicago, and I wish he would stay there.

@@

May 25th, 2010
5:44 pm

I don’t know who this Erickson fella is, but I’m never in favor of using the military for political gain. They’re the most noble among us and should never be exploited.

It’s one of the reasons I took offense to many of Luckovich’s cartoons. The military was, often times, his target of choice.

Jay

May 25th, 2010
5:47 pm

Mike, just wonderin’…

Have you ever gone to Wooten’s blog, or Kyle’s blog, to chastize them for not taking liberal positions?

You know, since being evenhanded is so important and all?

Saul Good

May 25th, 2010
5:48 pm

BTW…SO glad that both Cheney and Bush’s kids enlisted to go fight in Daddy’s war… I mean the Bush twins were WAY too busy get ****faced to join up and support their Daddy’s “Crown Jewel”….ya know…the fight the “War on Terror” with our military…in Iraq…where it began. I guess they were doing their part by going out and “shopping” to help.

Foxy Lady is #1

May 25th, 2010
5:48 pm

mike – the pundit of pundits. can a person’s existence be any more worthless.

@@

May 25th, 2010
5:48 pm

That’s MIKE LUCKOVICH OF THE AJC, just in case anyone outside the area is reading here. Needless to say, leftists are big fans of MIKE LUCKOVICH OF THE AJC.

DoggoneGA

May 25th, 2010
5:49 pm

” To infer he might not have been brave is so very much this generation of fools”

Except no one has done that…but it’s no big surprise that you interpreted it that way.

Del

May 25th, 2010
5:50 pm

Good old Joe while in Belgium said in a speech there that Brussels and not Washington D.C should be recognized as the capital of freedom. Talk about the village idiot and it happens to be our Vice President pandering in Europe.

Jay

May 25th, 2010
5:51 pm

Honest question, @@. Can you cite any of those cartoons in which Mike attacked the military? Just curious.

Chris Salzmann

May 25th, 2010
5:52 pm

joan May 25th, 2010 5:33 pm SAYD

joan

May 25th, 2010 5:33 pm SAID: I am glad he is not going. For him to go would be the height of hypocrisy. The man spits on all things American and is not fit to lay a wreath on the tomb of a brave man.

CHRIS SAYS: Bush sends American soldiers on a war based on lies and THAT makes him a great American. People like Joan should borrow Hitler’s line ” DEUTSCHLAND UEBER ALLES”. In fact, that was the first line of the German national anthem during Nazi times. That BTW, translates to “”GERMANY OVER EVERYTHING ELSE”. It was good enough for the Nazis and sounds fitting enough for Joan and her nationalistic ilk. But then Joan is a Tea Party follower so anything is possible.

@@

May 25th, 2010
5:53 pm

Asking me to go back in archives? Years back?

You wanna keep me busy and out of your hair, don’tcha, jay?

Chris Salzmann

May 25th, 2010
5:54 pm

@@ May 25th, 2010 5:48 pm SAID: That’s MIKE LUCKOVICH OF THE AJC, just in case anyone outside the area is reading here. Needless to say, leftists are big fans of MIKE LUCKOVICH OF THE AJC.

CHRIS SAID: Yeah, provide a couple of examples or did you just pull that, like everything else. out of your ……………….

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
5:54 pm

Bruin isn’t going to bring this one up and it’s liable to re-open the first can of worms he and I shared, but one of the times I came out singing President Obama’s praise as Commander in Chief and respectful of those who sacrificed their lives in the service of their country was when he bucked the liberal establishment and sent the traditional Memorial Day wreath to the Confederate memorial at Arlington, an action which gained him the accolades of that, gasp!, group the Sons of the Confederate Veterans.

I resent Joan’s implications. And, no, this doesn’t change any of my sentiments expressed downstairs…

He should go, plain and simple, he is the President of the United States of America…and those GOP ones who didn’t go should have gone, too. This is a duty, an obligation…

Chris Salzmann

May 25th, 2010
5:55 pm

@@ May 25th, 2010 5:53 pm SAID: Asking me to go back in archives? Years back?

You wanna keep me busy and out of your hair, don’tcha, jay?

CHRIS SAYS: you know what they say, PUT UP OR ………… Typical Right Wing behavior. Anything less would be unexpected.

@@

May 25th, 2010
5:55 pm

And jay, I may or may not oblige, depending on my mood.

You are not the boss of me, mister, regardless of WHAT you think.

Kamchak

May 25th, 2010
5:56 pm

Mike, just wonderin’…

Have you ever gone to Wooten’s blog, or Kyle’s blog, to chastize them for not taking liberal positions?

You know, since being evenhanded is so important and all?

“Evenhandedness ain’t got nothing to do with it Jay. mike haunts the ajc blogs, because as a bitter ex-ajc employee, mike has an ax to grind.

Jay

May 25th, 2010
5:56 pm

Well, just one or two examples would probably suffice. I see most of his cartoons before they go in the paper, and I don’t recall that the military “was often his target of choice.”

But if there’s evidence to the contrary, I would have to concede differently.

Jay

May 25th, 2010
5:57 pm

Understood, @@. I was never thinking otherwise….

@@

May 25th, 2010
6:00 pm

There were plenty, jay, but since you’ve determined that this Erickson fella’s was one too many, one SHOULD suffice. But I haven’t decided whether I want to comply or not.

I may. I may not.

@@

May 25th, 2010
6:02 pm

jay, are you gonna take down Chris’s comment?

DoggoneGA

May 25th, 2010
6:02 pm

“Can you cite any of those cartoons in which Mike attacked the military? ”

At this point…I’d say the answer is no.

AmVet

May 25th, 2010
6:02 pm

This sanctimonious and cowardly neo-con outrage is irrelevant and passe these days.

They had years and years to govern effectively and, even in eventual defeat, leave with SOME dignity and integrity. (Notwithstanding that the republic endured disaster after disaster under their leadership.)

But they failed to do so. Miserably. And seem damned proud of that.

The scurrilous and infamous name Newt Gingrich was again mentioned regarding this topic. Like way too many others in his camp, he is the poster boy of this sophomoric degrading of American civility, decorum and statesmanship.

It is one thing entirely for some goofball like myself, under anonymity of a blog, or even some malignantly mendacious Macon Moron like Erickson to say what we do, but the former leader of the House of Representatives??? Or the aforementioned former and reprehensible Vice President of the United States of America???

Have not these people a shred of shame?

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
6:03 pm

So, we shouldn’t be playing politics with the Tomb of the Unknown…looks like that’s not playing too well at Jay’s place tonight…just an observation, but look at how quickly we’ve descended into our traidtion of nasty name calling in near record time. Just an observation.

Chris Salzmann

May 25th, 2010
6:04 pm

@@ May 25th, 2010 6:00 pm SAYS: There were plenty, jay, but since you’ve determined that this Erickson fella’s was one too many, one SHOULD suffice. But I haven’t decided whether I want to comply or not.
I may. I may not.

CHRIS SAYS: When in a hole………………….STOP DIGGING!!!! LMAO.

“I may, I may not”……………admit it. You just got caught making up stuff like the rest of your ilk and now you’re suddenly coy about coming up with the proof. You people are a gullible lot, aren’t you?

Bosch

May 25th, 2010
6:04 pm

“At this point…I’d say the answer is no.”

Or in other words, @@ just makes up sh*t.

Jay

May 25th, 2010
6:04 pm

I’ll add that the military should never be exempt from criticism anyway, that in fact it needs that criticism just as any other public institution needs it. The military was wrong in the Pat Tillman affair, it is often wrong in its demands for hugely expensive but marginally useful equipment, it can be wrong about a lot of things.

In fact, ask anybody who has ever been in the military whether the military is always right.

md

May 25th, 2010
6:05 pm

“How do you know he was brave?”

He went.

The not so brave left the country for places such as Canada.

Jefferson

May 25th, 2010
6:08 pm

People who hate the president deserve to be unhappy. I have liked some better than others but never understood hate because we have a system and if you don’t belive in the system you may as well be mad. So walk around mad, one day you will die.

I don’t want to die mad no matter who the president is.

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
6:09 pm

AmVet

Not the place to go into it here and now, but responded to you on Ken Burns…

May 24th, 2010
6:22 pm

Chris Salzmann

May 25th, 2010
6:10 pm

Jay May 25th, 2010 6:04 pm SAID:

Jay

May 25th, 2010
6:04 pm

I’ll add that the military should never be exempt from criticism anyway, that in fact it needs that criticism just as any other public institution needs it. The military was wrong in the Pat Tillman affair, it is often wrong in its demands for hugely expensive but marginally useful equipment, it can be wrong about a lot of things.

In fact, ask anybody who has ever been in the military whether the military is always right.

CHRIS SAYS: Jay, you’re right. The military is not ABOVE criticism. But I always remember that cases such as Mai Lai and Abu Gharaib were brought to light by others in the military who were also disgusted by horrible actions..

No one being above criticism is the cornerstone of our democracy.

DoggoneGA

May 25th, 2010
6:11 pm

“He went.”

And some men did not find out how brave they were until they actually got in battle. But it isn’t HIS bravery that put him where he is, he is there because at the time he could not be identified and he is a symbol for the bravery of ALL those who served, and who serve, in the Armed Forces.

And it would appear that I am maybe the only person here who REALLY knows that there are the remains of more than one soldier in that tomb…since no one has corrected my use of the singular “him”, or Joan’s use of the singular “man” for that matter.

FunnyBone

May 25th, 2010
6:11 pm

Republican posts are the bestest posts of all. They makes me laugh.

JohnnyReb

May 25th, 2010
6:12 pm

Perception becomes reality, and the perception is that Obama is not deeply patriotic. The conservatives posting here are not alone in those beliefs. Obama’s speech this past weekend was met with luke warm response by the graduating cadets. The left can deny that, and they do, however, couple the patriotic perception with the “ends justify the means” method of running the country and only the staunch left support Obama. As to why the right so dislikes Obama, look no further than the Health Care Bill, sneaking the student loan dismantlment into the health care bill, and now the end around on DATD. It does not matter that Obama will not honor the unknown soldier with his presence, it would not be perceived as sincere on such hallow ground.

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Chris Salzmann

May 25th, 2010
6:14 pm

I see you removed some of my comments directed at @@. Okay okay……I was kinda ruthless with my biting wit. Message understood.

Bosch

May 25th, 2010
6:14 pm

“and the perception is that Obama is not deeply patriotic.”

No, Reb – that’s YOUR perception not “the.”

Normal

May 25th, 2010
6:15 pm

For what it’s worth, I agree with Josef at 5:35. The CinC MUST honor the fallen. They paid the ultimate price for us.

Lift a glass. To fallen comrades. May they rest in peace and know they are hero’s.

FunnyBone

May 25th, 2010
6:15 pm

Or in other words, [insert conservative/Libertarian/Independent/Republican name here] just makes up sh*t.

There’s no need to single out @@.

Chris Salzmann

May 25th, 2010
6:17 pm

@@ May 25th, 2010 6:02 pm SAID: jay, are you gonna take down Chris’s comment?

CHRIS SAYS:: This is too funny.

Normal

May 25th, 2010
6:17 pm

In fact, ask anybody who has ever been in the military whether the military is always right.

Ha! That’s why we always said, “There’s the right way, the wrong way, and the Navy way.

Hillbilly Deluxe

May 25th, 2010
6:18 pm

My own personal belief is that the Commander in Chief should always go and lay the wreath. That hasn’t always happened, though.

Other than here, I’ve never heard of this Erik guy. I would imagine like most performers, and I put a ton of pundits in that category, left, right, and center, that he’s trying to drum up a little buzz for his act. (For you teachers, how’s that for a run-on sentence? :lol: )

And let’s not forget that Memorial Day isn’t for all veterans. We owe them all a debt of gratitude but Veterans Day is for them. Memorial Day is for those who gave all they had to give. They are special.

And if anybody ever gets the chance to see the Changing of the Guard, do it. It’s something that’ll stay with you. I saw it in 1968 and remember it very well.

FunnyBone

May 25th, 2010
6:19 pm

Let’s not needlessly single out the military. The more generic, and still relevent, saying is “close enough for government work.”

Jay

May 25th, 2010
6:21 pm

My parents took us there every time we were in Washington, Hillbilly.

RW-(the original)

May 25th, 2010
6:21 pm

How much does this Erickson fellow pay Jay B to link to him?

Jay

May 25th, 2010
6:24 pm

Would you prefer Sarah Palin, RW?

Curious Observer

May 25th, 2010
6:25 pm

The CinC MUST honor the fallen. They paid the ultimate price for us.

He is honoring the fallen. Didn’t you read Jay’s statement that he will be at an Illinois veteran’s cemetery?

I’m amused by all these never served, never will people who suddenly become all patriotic when Memorial Day approaches. Where were they when we unprivileged boys were lugging a rifle and wondering whether the day would be our last? What was their duty when their country needed them? Hiding in a college and seeking deferments? Considering themselves too valuable to serve as mere cannon fodder?

After all these years, these people and their carping sicken me.

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
6:26 pm

Hillbilly
I didn’t find it too run-on…but, then, I do suffer from what my favorite Yankee professor called, “the Southern malady of diarrhea of the pen…!” :-)

I subscribe to your sentiments on the meaning of Memorial Day and the Commander-in-Chiefs highly symbolic obligation to its proper observation…

@@

May 25th, 2010
6:27 pm

jay:

Are you gonna take down Bosch’s comment?

When I’ve gone back in archives, I’m usually looking for text. The cartoons themselves are missing from many. Some message about Luckovich has moved.

I didn’t know he had attempted to submit this one but was denied “the privilege”.

…Mike Luckovich, the cartoonist at the Atlanta Journal Constitution, had to wait awhile to truly express doubts about the Bush administration’s honesty. In 2003, he was prevented from publishing a sketch, spelling out “W LIED” with military coffins. Luckovich’s editor told a trade magazine that she thought “it was too early in the war to lay these deaths firmly at the president’s feet.”

By 2005, as public support for the war plummeted, Luckovich’s paper approved a heart-wrenching cartoon to mark the loss of the 2,000th U.S. soldier in Iraq.

http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2007/03/30/06

jay, go back to my original post…

I’m never in favor of using the military for political gain.

That’s my objection, not unlike yours, regarding the Erickson fella. Mike often used the military to make a political point. Exploitation, plain and simple. I don’t approve and your column would indicate you don’t either.

I guess I was wrong, or maybe you were?

JohnnyReb

May 25th, 2010
6:27 pm

Bosch, you are wishful thinking. It is not only my perception.

Hillbilly Deluxe

May 25th, 2010
6:28 pm

Jay

That’s the only time I’ve ever been to DC but if I ever go back, I would definitely go again.

AmVet

May 25th, 2010
6:28 pm

Yeah, bro jo, I saw. And I penned a response but deleted it, because I thought it was something important enough to both of us that we should discuss it without the upstairs, downstairs thing going on at some future date.

We may disagree on different things, but to me, that is something to celebrate, not avoid.

If we all thought the same way about everything, this world would be real boring, wouldn’t it?!

Jay, I’m still a bit perplexed at how anybody over the age of about 45 doesn’t have a degree of distrust about much of anything that comes out of the Pentagon or Washington. (Too many memories of McNamara and LBJ, I suppose.)

Chris Salzmann

May 25th, 2010
6:28 pm

joan May 25th, 2010 5:44 pm SAID: …….Obama is better off in Chicago, and I wish he would stay there.

CHRIS SAYS: Yeah, and it would have been better if Bush had stayed home and just messed up his ranch in Texas. Would have saved a lot of lives and us all from a recession.

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
6:28 pm

Curious

He is Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America, not the Governor of the State of Illinois…

Saul Good

May 25th, 2010
6:29 pm

Johnny…those are BAD things Obama did to try to help Americans? Too bad he was not “patriotic” enough to always make sure his flag lapel pin was in place and then send our military into a war that he never needed to start in the first place…yup…killing humans (both our own soldiers and the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi’s that got caught up as “collateral damage” over there) is DEFINITELY more patriotic and in fact BETTER for Americans then to try to give them health care or at least make sure they don’t get screwed over by the insurance companies… I guess I’ve been looking at this all wrong (as to what makes a “good” president” who cares about our citizens vs. a bad one who does them wrong).

Thanks for showing me the light!

Praise Allah! :)

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
6:30 pm

AmVet
Glad you got it and, agreed, it’s for a different time and place…but it was, in my opinion, a work of art in spin-doctoring…a craft I am not averse to! :-)

Bosch

May 25th, 2010
6:31 pm

Reb,

But it’s not THE perception. You don’t get to decide that for all.

@@

May 25th, 2010
6:32 pm

jay, can I call your hounds, leg humpers?

Saul Good

May 25th, 2010
6:35 pm

joseph…a person who died for our country fighting for our freedom is the SAME no matter if he is buried in DC or in Nebraska for that matter… our military comes from every nook and cranny of our nation… be it 17 vets buried in a small cemetery in Enid OK, or hundreds of thousands in a bigger cemetery… does those who are buried in their home town deserve any LESS respect? The “important” thing is that he DOES pay respect to them…which he IS doing. WHERE he does it matters little. In fact… by NOT starting unnecessary wars… to me…that matters even MORE to their honor… it shows that he values and RESPECTS them even more…that sending members of our military into battle is something he does not take lightly… to me, that shows his respect and his honor to those that lost their lives fighting for us more then others who showed little respect for their lives to begin with.

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
6:37 pm

Anytime we go off on impugning someone else’s patriotism we fall heir to what Samuel Johnson warned us about in 1775 in reference to political jingoism “patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”

AmVet

May 25th, 2010
6:38 pm

“…a craft I am not averse to!”

Well said, brother. A more erudite version of “takes one to know one!”

Curious Observer. Salute! Call me crazy, but your opinion on this matter means more to me than 10 men who in your time and place who did not serve.

One reason why I respected (and still do) the hell out of John McCain. Though his own Karl Rove run party damn near swift boated him. I disagreed with much of his politics, but would have voted for him before our current CiC.

FWIW…

RW-(the original)

May 25th, 2010
6:39 pm

Would you prefer Sarah Palin, RW?

I’m not quite sure what that means but yes seems to come to mind no matter how I consider the question.

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
6:40 pm

Saul
This is a symbolic act. Washington is OUR capital. Arlington is the site of the Tomb of the Unknown of ALL of us…that’s where he belongs. He is OUR president.

MaJo

May 25th, 2010
6:41 pm

Jay, nice dodge of the questions posed by mike @ 5:36 pm. Wooten and Kyle’s blogs have nothing to do with you. Seems to me that mike has some legitimate questions, but you only answer the right-wing nuts because it’s easy pickings.

Saul Good

May 25th, 2010
6:42 pm

He’s also the president to those who died for our nation everywhere…

Just sayin’

RW-(the original)

May 25th, 2010
6:44 pm

@@,

It’s nearly impossible to search the AJC archives, especially for cartoons. Why do you think Jay B is always propping up that “find me an example in the archives” strawman. The one ml toon that comes to mind right away is the one he titled Pot Meet Kettle where he had our military on par with al Qaeda head choppers. That’s the cartoon that he changed the name to “See the pretty kitten” or something like that in the middle of the day.

JohnnyReb

May 25th, 2010
6:45 pm

Bosch, I will concede that point, however, it is my perception the majority of the Nation does not look upon Obama as being patriotic.

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
6:45 pm

AmVet–
Hopefully this won’t count against me for off-topic this p.m., but that’s what so much of what goes on in the various media and it’s not that I am opposed to it…just recognize that that’s what you’re doing. But “accuse” a pundit thereof and be told in no uncertain terms “not me!” Sheeesh!

F. Sinkwich

May 25th, 2010
6:48 pm

It wasn’t long ago that Obama thought Memorial Day was Veterans Day. Maybe he thinks he should do the wreath thing then.

Who cares? He is ashamed of America and its values so whether he makes the trip makes no difference.

He probably thinks after a round of golf on Monday he needs to fly over to France or some place and apologize for something.

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
6:49 pm

SAUL

If he HAD to be, say, in Tucumcari on state business, of course and it would carry all the more weight. I understand this to be a trip of choice.

md

May 25th, 2010
6:50 pm

“How do we know he was Brave?”

That was the question posted, not “was he in the tomb because he was brave”.

Sorry that our definitions differ, but I think every soul that went was “brave”. It took courage and bravery to NOT high tail it to another country as the not so brave did.

Jazzyk

May 25th, 2010
6:51 pm

There’s always been this not-so-subtle smear against African-Americans as not as patriotic as Whites. That’s at the heart of this latest dig at Obama. Never mind that the first person to die for America was a runaway slave in the Boston Massacre (1770) and that Blacks have fought and died in every American war since the revolution. Bigotry won’t be placated by facts.

AmVet

May 25th, 2010
6:52 pm

My father is buried in a sweet little place along the Platte River called Fort McPherson National Cemetery.

I wish I could find some pictures to do it justice.

Rest well, Adrian…

http://www.cem.va.gov/cems/nchp/ftmcpherson.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_McPherson_National_Cemetery

@@

May 25th, 2010
6:53 pm

DANG! RW, how could I have forgotten about that one. You are SO right. He was shamed into changing the name. Perfect!

LUV ‘YA!

jay, just in case you’re not comprehending what I’m saying.

To USE our military as ammunition for a political target, is, in my opinion, unconscionable. I know they’re willing to die for his freedom of expression, but it is because of that very fact that they shouldn’t be USED in a personal attack for political reasons.

That’s how I feel, and not you or anybody else will ever change that. I stand firm on my principles.

Dave R.

May 25th, 2010
6:53 pm

Wow, almost a full page before someone pulled the race card.

On Cynthia’s blog, she would have done it in her column and her defenders would have pulled it in the first 10 posts.

Jason

May 25th, 2010
6:53 pm

As I sit in Louisiana and watch oil pour onto our shoreline, destroy a way of life, and wreak havoc on our environment, I would really prefer Obama not take this vacation in Arlington or Chicago. He should be here. Oh, that’s right the Feds (republican or democrat) can care less about this state as long as BP and others keep filling their cofers.

DoggoneGA

May 25th, 2010
6:55 pm

Personally…I think it is, as usual, a tempest in a teapot. What matters – to the country, not to those in that tomb…is that they are honored in the name of the country. WHO has that honor matters not a flip. It is the honor that matters, not the last person who touches the wreath.

Disgusted

May 25th, 2010
6:57 pm

it is my perception the majority of the Nation does not look upon Obama as being patriotic.

Patriotism is a love of one’s country. In my opinion, Samuel Johnson was absolutely correct. A politician is prone to look more at perception than at reality. I hardly found George W. Bush’s presence at Arlington inspiring. In fact, I was filled with loathing for a man who would use such an occasion to build political support—one whose military records cannot even be found. I would rather have a largely unpublicized observance, such as Obama plans in Illinois. And I agree that there are tens of thousands of war heroes whose graves will never be visited this coming weekend. I will not be watching television and the pandering of the politicians. I will be thinking of General Merritt “Red Mike” Edson when I observe Memorial Day. There’s a man who was worth more than 10,000 of the faux patriots who consider themselves loyal Americans.

Chris Salzmann

May 25th, 2010
6:57 pm

JohnnyReb May 25th, 2010 6:45 pm SAID: Bosch, I will concede that point, however, it is my perception the majority of the Nation does not look upon Obama as being patriotic.

CHRIS SAYS: And why is that? Because he has admitted that this country, great as it is, has made mistakes. Everyone’s pretty much admitted that Vietnam, Iraq, Slavery, etc, were all horrible mistakes. Are we, as a nation, so full of ourselves that no one can admit that we’ve made mistakes in the past. Only the most jingoistic and uninformed will claim that this nation has never made ANY mistakes. Which is why I have absolutely no tolerance for the Right-Wing in this country. That is also the difference between patriotism and nationalism. And blind nationalism is what the Nazis practiced and preached.

Dave R.

May 25th, 2010
6:58 pm

“WHO has that honor matters not a flip.”

So if Hope & Change had Sarah Palin do the honors next week, you’d be OK with that? ;)

F. Sinkwich

May 25th, 2010
6:58 pm

Please forgive JazzyK. Like many liberals, he believes that any policy disagreement with Obama has racist motives.

I pity the pathetic.

So much for our post-racial president.

josef nix

May 25th, 2010
6:58 pm

JASON
Thanks for the comment…but face it, mon ami, we are now and have been since 1699 a backwater colony of the imperial designs, policies and politics set far, far away…

A CONSERVATIVE

May 25th, 2010
6:58 pm

..LIBERALs GET OFFENDED BY “THE NATIONAL ANTHUM”–or THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG…..LIBERALs get offended by everything decent & traditional.

md

May 25th, 2010
6:59 pm

“That’s at the heart of this latest dig at Obama.”

You do realize that without the “white” vote, he wouldn’t even be in the WH, don’t you?

Race will forever be an issue if it is used as the most convenient excuse.