Oil industry ‘captured’ the federal agency that should have regulated it

Ever hear of the term “regulatory capture?”

It was coined to apply to agencies such as the federal Minerals Management Service, created in 1982 to oversee oil and mining on federal property, including offshore drilling. Over time, MMS became captive to the industries it was supposed to regulate, serving as an advocate for industry interests and an apologist for its excesses and repeatedly siding with the industry over the taxpayer on financial issues. With its lax enforcement, it made agencies such as the Securities and Exchange Commission seem like bulldogs by comparison.

Those problems peaked during the Bush administration, when top Interior Department officials ignored repeated reports from the Government Accountability Office warning that the agency was giving sweetheart deals to industry, losing hundreds of millions of dollars that ought to be going to the federal treasury. Later, investigations proved that agency officials had been accepting lucrative gifts from oil companies, and that “a culture of ethical failure” permeated MMS.

The Obama administration cleaned up some of that mess, for example by ending the program that had cost taxpayers so much money. But in light of the Deepwater Horizon disaster, it clearly did not act aggressively enough to reverse the agency’s pro-industry bias on questions of environmental protection and safety.

As The Washington Post reports:

The federal agency responsible for regulating offshore oil drilling repeatedly ignored warnings from government scientists about environmental risks in its push to approve energy exploration activities quickly, according to numerous documents and interviews.

Minerals Management Service officials, who receive cash bonuses for meeting federal deadlines on leasing offshore oil and gas exploration, frequently altered their own documents and bypassed legal requirements aimed at ensuring drilling does not imperil the marine environment, the documents show.

This has dramatically weakened the scientific checks on offshore drilling that were established under landmark laws such as the Marine Mammal Protection Act and the National Environmental Policy Act, according to those who have worked with MMS, which is part of the Interior Department…

MMS officials also ignored the advice of its staff experts. In 2006, then-MMS biologist Jeff Childs provided a detailed analysis of how the Exxon Valdez spill had harmed generations of fish in Prince William Sound, and how a future spill could do the same in the Beaufort Sea. But Childs’s conclusion that “a large oil spill . . . is likely to result in significant adverse effects on local [fish] populations requiring three or more generations to recover” would have forced MMS to conduct a full Environmental Impact Statement before auctioning off a lease there.

“I have concerns about Jeff’s analysis and will not insert it into the [Environmental Assessment] being sent to HQ at this time,” wrote Deborah Cranswick, chief of the environmental assessment section at MMS, in a June 23 e-mail to her Alaska colleagues. “I believe that Regional management needs to review it first because Jeff has concluded new significant impacts from oil spills. This will trigger an EIS — and thus delay the lease for at least a year.”

Six days later, Paul Stang, Alaska MMS regional supervisor for leasing and the environment, sent a hand-written note to Childs saying, “As you know, a conclusion of significance under NEPA means an EIS and delay in sale 202. That would, as you can imagine, not go over well with HQ and others.”

According to the Post, “this pattern of dismissing biologists’ input has continued under the Obama administration.”

Sadly, that doesn’t surprise me. Changing an ingrained culture is difficult, and I doubt the administration made it the priority it clearly deserved to be. Given the tenor of the times, cracking down on oil and gas drilling on behalf of environmental concerns would have provoked howls of outrage, with the loudest howls no doubt coming from many of those who now criticize the administration for failing to protect the Gulf. But that doesn’t excuse the inaction in any way.

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@@

May 24th, 2010
6:07 pm

You’re a little late, jay. Guess you had other, more important things to do….like criticizing somebody’s prayer, but you got what you were after.

md

May 24th, 2010
6:08 pm

“Given the tenor of the times, cracking down on oil and gas drilling on behalf of environmental concerns would have provoked howls of outrage, with the loudest howls no doubt coming from many of those who now criticize the administration for failing to protect the Gulf.”

Why should that matter? Polls indicate the majority of the public disagreed with hc and now with immigration, yet our misfits still have tin ears.

@@

May 24th, 2010
6:11 pm

Why should that matter? Polls indicate the majority of the public disagreed with hc and now with immigration, yet our misfits still have tin ears.

Excellent point, md!

jay cannot bring himself to acknowledge Obama’s pandering. He prefers to think of Obama as slow.

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
6:13 pm

Not surprisingly, three straight red herrings to start this one off.

It will be interesting to see how many others the “let the free market police itself” types can come up with…

Jay

May 24th, 2010
6:13 pm

I was checking in from time to time as I worked on tomorrow’s dead-tree column, @@. And you’re right, I got what I wanted: a spirited but generally civil debate on freedom of religion and the separation of church and state.

Glad you enjoyed it.

Matilda

May 24th, 2010
6:14 pm

Rush Limbaugh blames the Sierra Club and the Greeniacs for the oil spill. How DARE you blame crooked government bureaucrats who are just trying to supplement their taxpayer-funded salaries by granting favors to the people they’re supposed to keep in line on our behalf? They have to put food on their families too! I mean, Limbaugh wouldn’t lie, would he?

md

May 24th, 2010
6:18 pm

“free market police itself” types?

May want to work on reading comprehension skills.

getalife

May 24th, 2010
6:19 pm

Never did fix that culture of corruption.

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
6:19 pm

Who was it that said that BP is putting “their best minds” to the task?

JohnnyReb

May 24th, 2010
6:21 pm

It is important to note that some, for example Cynthia Tucker, have been pushing for more regulation. Jay has taken the proper line in that those responsible for enforcing the regulations failed. Large corporations like Oil and Aviation participate with the Feds in writing regulations. It’s the government’s responsibility to separate that cooperation from enforcement. There may be additional regulations needed in this case, we won’t know that until full investigation concludes. We know now, however, that enforcement was compromised.

TaxPayer

May 24th, 2010
6:22 pm

Clearly, all these issues can be resolved by simply eliminating all these regulations. It’s the Conservo-Liberipublican thing to do.

getalife

May 24th, 2010
6:22 pm

At least, bp decided to act like they care.

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
6:24 pm

Matilda, oh noes!

This is not the dreaded “What would Rush do?” moment, is it? (Eeew…)

Hey getalife! howya been? (And yeah, unless by “fix” you mean business as usual.)

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
6:25 pm

getalife, act is the operant word and it’s a bad act.

TaxPayer

May 24th, 2010
6:26 pm

I wonder what would happen to an organization if you, 1)cut their funding, 2)cut their oversight, 3)put someone in charge that fundamentally disagrees with his organization’s mandate, 4)accomodate a cozy arrangement between regulators and those supposedly being regulated. Well, Bush was determined to find out.

getalife

May 24th, 2010
6:26 pm

Hi AmVet,

Hangin in there.

Looks like your man Nader was dead right about obama.

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May 24th, 2010
6:30 pm

The hack tries to spin it away from obozo, who could have done something, anything, the last 35 days.

Just sayin….

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
6:32 pm

So we finally get the type of “smaller” government the Republicans have been braying for since Reagan (Well, not really because there still is an SEC, CPSC, EPA, etc, but you get the point) and now because of a couple of completely unavoidable “accidents” (one on Wall Street in Sept. 2008 and one in the Gulf of Mexico last month) it is all in peril.

We commie, pinko, Lenninist, socialist, Marxist, Trotskyists, collectivists and income redistributionist liberals are gonna undo all that hard earned progress!!!

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May 24th, 2010
6:34 pm

For months, a United States Congressman has stated that the White House offered him a job in exchange for not running in an election — we call this a bribe. Despite being asked numerous times, the White House has not refuted Congressman Sestak’s allegations, but refuses to disclose who offered what and when. So this Administration, that pledged to be a beacon of transparency and change, continues to conceal from the American people the truth about what exactly was said and offered.

Aahhh, yes, the Big One.

I believe we’ve treed your boy.

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
6:34 pm

JAY
Fine…but, do you still have “no problem” with preacher Warren…?

getalife

May 24th, 2010
6:35 pm

Yeah Andy,

He should call w and cheney..

The oil experts.

Matilda

May 24th, 2010
6:37 pm

Johnny Reb has a great point that applies to the enforcement practices of regulatory agencies across the board, as well as industry professionals who actually write the regulations that benefit themselves instead of protecting the public from their malfeasance.

I’d like to add that all this is not just possible in America, but it is the American WAY, because we neglect our responsibility to pay attention or care until something horrible happens. We should probably extract our heads from the poop shoots of network programming, talk radio, the sex lives of others, and whatever else we think is so “important” and pay attention to the details of how our government works — or more accurately, how it does not work for us.

Lord of the Ape

May 24th, 2010
6:38 pm

I believe we’ve treed your boy.

Let go of banana, Andy, and hand will come out.

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
6:38 pm

getalife

Today’s report from the ground? Please.

AmVet
Back atcha downstairs on Burns…

JAY

Thanks for the new thread…

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
6:42 pm

Yeah, getalife, he sure was. (But, shhhh! Don’t tell anyone cause Nader is a LOON!)

Sestak treed? Puhleeeze Andy. He is gonna crush whatever poor GOP SOB runs again him…

He wouldn’t kiss BHO’s ass and that is a bad thing???

The trifecta is never likely, but all a bettor can hope for is Electoral Bloodbath Part Trois – Coming to an Election everywhere in November 2010…

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
6:43 pm

Look, I’m no Obama fan by a long shot, but other than a pr gambit, just what COULD he have done in the last 35 days…?

F. Sinkwich

May 24th, 2010
6:46 pm

“The Obama administration cleaned up some of that mess, for example by ending the program that had cost taxpayers so much money.”

I am sure glad Obama is on the job, saving us taxpayers so much money and all.

He follows up with this:

“But in light of the Deepwater Horizon disaster, it clearly did not act aggressively enough to reverse the agency’s pro-industry bias on questions of environmental protection and safety.”

So it is obviously Bush’s fault, as is every problem facing the world today.

Yawn.

getalife

May 24th, 2010
6:47 pm

josef,

They all came down to tell us what they are going to do while Jindal is building sand barriers.

Brown pelicans are dark brown but the clean up has started.

bp needs to hire a couple of thousand Americans to start training on clean up.

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
6:51 pm

getalife

“They all came down to tell us what they are going to do while Jindal is building sand barriers.”

There’s a lot of that “gonna” going around these days, jus’ sayin’

So, what’s your personal take on Jindal…what’s the public perception…most of my folks down that way are Yellow Dog Democrats and, well, somewhat biased!

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
6:54 pm

AmVet, I saw Sestak’s speech on C-SPAN. He looks like he is going to be very difficult to beat.

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
6:54 pm

“bp needs to hire a couple of thousand Americans to start training on clean up.”

Woo Hoo! Some unintended job creation! I’m also thinking that those lamebrains that created this cluster____ ought to be down there doing some “community service” too

You know, something gawdawful nasty and foul (maybe with fowl) to demonstrate their personal responsibility…

Saul Good

May 24th, 2010
6:56 pm

Either way…. now that the oil is reaching and saturating the marshes…the gulf is basically &^#^%%$&%(!!&%!! The food chain starts out at the edges and works its way inward… sad that “man” has once again used his own greed and “comfort” to destroy other species… so if millions of once “living breathing” beings get wiped out… those in your over sized homes and super sized tonka trucks… I’m sure you just don’t care. There are tons of animals, and marine life suffering, struggling and dying right now. But you’ll STILL try to point your finger at Obama…because I guess he was supposed to be briefed hourly about every single oil well at sea and trouble shoot any problems as they arose…

F. Sinkwich

May 24th, 2010
6:57 pm

If Bush was president during this scenario he would be crucified by the media.

Jay and all the other liberal media just says Obama “didn’t act aggressively enough” to do something, not mentioning what he did at all, of course, to prevent the disaster in the first place. Or to prevent the environmental damage which may result.

But he means well, and he sounds good with a teleprompter!

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
6:57 pm

AmVet
“Woo Hoo! Some unintended job creation!”

Ooooh, you bad! Wish I’d've said that! :-)

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
6:58 pm

eyes, like I said yesterday, the admiral is a neo-cons worst nightmare. Impeccable credentials, spotless military career, well spoken, obviously very bright and moderately liberal.

I receive emails about him and other veterans running for office regularly

Unless the post-Rove machine can find some new Swift Boaters, they are sunk. Nyuck, nyuck…

Saul Good

May 24th, 2010
6:59 pm

Sad that the Talibangelical crowds mantra of “Drill baby Drill” could not be one that would wean us off of dirty costly oil much much faster: “Conserve baby Conserve”….

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
7:01 pm

“If Bush was president during this scenario he would be crucified by the media.”

Probably so, but then he would have already made at least five gigantically stupid comments on the matter.

F. Sinkwich

May 24th, 2010
7:01 pm

Saul Good on Obama:

“I guess he was supposed to be briefed hourly about every single oil well at sea and trouble shoot any problems as they arose…”

Would that your opinion if Bush was still the president?

Didn’t think so.

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May 24th, 2010
7:02 pm

I think you miss the point, AmVet, if what everybody is saying is true, obozo committed 3 felonies.

Look up the grounds for impeachment.

Everybody is hot to hook this fish.

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
7:03 pm

AmVet, the most impressive presentations/speeches that I have seen of late came from Sestak and from Mexico’s President Calderon in his address to the US Congress. I thought that Calderon was brilliant.

Oh, I had better say something on topic. Well, Wednesday BP is supposed to try yet another new technique that has never been tried before – pouring concrete down a pipe. Talk about On The Job Training. As John Wooden liked to say, “Those who fail to prepare are prepared to fail.

Saul Good

May 24th, 2010
7:04 pm

Instead of what American’s USED to do in times of crisis…all chip in, give up things (wean your lifestyle off of oil and consume less daily)….whatever it took (like in WWII where many made HUGE sacrifices)… it sums up simply as this nowadays: what took place for a little while after 9-11 is a perfect example… was the willingness of people to help one another… then Bush came in to save the economy… what did he tell people to do? Go shopping!!! YAY! So I guess the appropriate conservative response to this disaster would be to consume MORE oil so we can drive up the price per barrel and help make BP more profitable.

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
7:04 pm

Sorry, Andy I apparently missed your point.

Are you saying Barry is the first prez to ever “make an offer” to a politician? Seems a might odd.

So what are these impeachable offenses, exactly?

F. Sinkwich

May 24th, 2010
7:05 pm

Thanks for agreeing with me, AmVet, but your projection on Bush is rather stupid, but I mean that in a good way.

TaxPayer

May 24th, 2010
7:06 pm

I think Obama needs to implement an emergency oil cleanup tax cut act. After all, this is war. He also needs to use his Bush-bound powers and go after this flotilla of evil — oil, gas and sludge — and all their dirty minions. I would start with a deck of playing cards to help identify the culprits as they attempt to come ashore.

Curly and Moe

May 24th, 2010
7:06 pm

Just saw a TV phone in poll. 75% wants the Government to take over BP.

I also noticed that those Republicans down there are screaming for more Government intervention. So much for “Less Government” when trouble’s in your turf, I guess.

Saul Good

May 24th, 2010
7:08 pm

F…no it wouldn’t… but I still don’t believe Obama would have sat there reading my pet goat to a bunch of 5 year olds like a deer stuck in oncoming headlights for 7 full minutes pissing himself after just being told that the nation is under attack.

It’s a VERY different situation… yet BP was CLEARLY not upfront with the severity of what was taking place and how much oil was leaking when this started… also…I was not ever “briefed” myself anywhere in my readings that shows how our Federal Government is both “trained” and has the “equipment” needed and ready to cap mile deep oil leaks. If you have that info…please feel free to post it. It would be GREATLY appreciated my friend!

Moderate Line

May 24th, 2010
7:09 pm

Sadly, that doesn’t surprise me. Changing an ingrained culture is difficult, and I doubt the administration made it the priority it clearly deserved to be.
++++++++++++++++++++
1. Federal agencies get pressure from business all the time no matter who is president.
2. Federal officials often have cozy relationships with contractors in order to secure jobs after employment with the government ends.

I would have to see more than I am seeing to believe this trend went up or down under Bush.

A good example is Tom Dashle and his wife. Tom Dashle worked for a health care lobbying firm before he was nominated for Health and Human Services Secretary.

Linda Daschle, a former acting administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration now lobbies for aerospace and airline industry clients.

Apparently, it was not a priority at Health and Human Services Secretary.

Both parties are currupt.

Obama’s Slogan: The buck stops somewhere else.

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
7:09 pm

Curly, actually I would be in favor of kicking BP out of this if they fail again on Wednesday, but apparently we do not possess the submersibles that BP is using right now – at least they are not at hand.

Saul Good

May 24th, 2010
7:10 pm

Great point Curly…

Jay's blog

May 24th, 2010
7:12 pm

The oil spill IS bush’s fault because Bush and Cheney were the ones who set in motion the lax regulatory environment where BP could count on little oversight. Bush ruined this country on so many levels it’s ridiculous. We should call the Gulf, the Bush of Mexico, and the Gulf’s beaches, “The Bush Beaches”.

Look Boss, It's da Plan

May 24th, 2010
7:13 pm

Oil Pollution Act of 1990

§1002(a) Provides that the responsible party for a vessel or facility from which oil is discharged, or which poses a substantial threat of a discharge, is liable for: (1) certain specified damages resulting from the discharged oil; and (2) removal costs incurred in a manner consistent with the National Contingency Plan (NCP).

§1002(c) Exceptions to the Clean Water Act (CWA) liability provisions include: (1) discharges of oil authorized by a permit under Federal, State, or local law; (2) discharges of oil from a public vessel; or (3) discharges of oil from onshore facilities covered by the liability provisions of the Trans-Alaska Pipeline Authorization Act.

§1002(d) Provides that if a responsible party can establish that the removal costs and damages resulting from an incident were caused solely by an act or omission by a third party, the third party will be held liable for such costs and damages.

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
7:14 pm

No worries Frankie. Always trying to get along! /sarc/

35 days in and not one practical suggestion from the ODS crowd?

I’ve got one. Send Michael “Heckuva job” Brownie down there and stuff his big head in that pipe.

And if that doesn’t work, try Rush’s Larda__…

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
7:15 pm

Saul

I am about as far from a Republican as you can get and still be on planet Earth and don’t care much for Bush as an individual or as a president (Katrina?), but…his advice for us after 9/11 to go shopping meant a lot to me…yes, we’re reeling from shock and saddened by the loss of innocent life, but what they’re out to do is make us afraid to be who we are…do something “normal” to show we are neither cowed nor afraid…and what better and what more “us” than go shopping. Me? Took the kids to the mall and went shopping…stopped for ice cream…went to the movies..passed the football down at the park..I still think George did a pretty good job bringing us as a nation through those critical days, reminding us not to fall into the error of the past of blaming our citizens who were of the faith or ethnicity of the attackers…what he did later? How he squandered all that? That’s another issue…

Kamchak

May 24th, 2010
7:15 pm

Teleprompter—SQUIRREL!

Saul Good

May 24th, 2010
7:16 pm

I report….please list the THREE felonies (this should be good).

Know what I LOVE about the Talibangelical party? That since the day he won the election, and even before he took his oath… you’ve tried to do ANYTHING to change the fact that your party LOST and that Obama actually won and is YOUR President.

Please list the three charges… thanx! :)

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
7:17 pm

AmVet, well, apparently the “best minds” at BP have been asking the public for suggestions as to how to stop the leak. Perhaps, yours will be no less effective as any of BP’s.

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May 24th, 2010
7:17 pm

I believe committing a felony would be one of them.

Normal

May 24th, 2010
7:19 pm

“What we have here, is a failure to give a sh*t”-BP

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
7:20 pm

“Exceptions to the Clean Water Act (CWA) liability…”

Boss, those look similar to the provisions in the CYA – “Hey it Ain’t My fault!” Exclusion.

All I can say is I’m glad these corporate screw ups were not running the space program. We’d have blown up all the orbiters years ago and the out of control ISS would be merrily on its way to Uranus…

Normal

May 24th, 2010
7:20 pm

Why haven’t they tried Kevin Costner’s method, yet?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

May 24th, 2010
7:21 pm

Aahhh, now we get the real liberal motivation-

WASHINGTON (AP) – Responding to the massive BP oil spill, Congress is getting ready to quadruple—to 32 cents a barrel—a tax on oil used to help finance cleanups. The increase would raise nearly $11 billion over the next decade.

It almost seems like they allowed the spill to happen on purpose, to give them a reason to raise taxes. On us, not the oil companies.

How does this differ from anything a dummycrat does? “Global warming,” taxes. Choo choo train, taxes. Health “care” fix, taxes. Breathing the freaking air, taxes.

Just sayin, ooops, tax me!

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
7:22 pm

josef, I was working for a Taiwanese held (albeit Bermuda incorporated) company on 9/11/2001. Our Taiwanese CEO told us something similar – that they would have wanted our work disrupted. So, we all stayed a full day that time, and worked our butts off as usual. Ah, I think the Chinese guy got what he wanted. He would make sure the company had a well-stocked fridge, so we would need to outside the building for lunch, thus, shorter lunch hours and greater productivity.

But…I get your point.

Normal

May 24th, 2010
7:22 pm

Whiner,
You’re a hoot!

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
7:24 pm

(In my best Aunt Bee voice) Oh Andy!

What are these three impeachable felonies that “everybody” is talking about?

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
7:24 pm

Correction: not need…

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
7:27 pm

Normal at 7:19. Great take off on a great movie line…Arguably one of the best lines ever…

Saul Good

May 24th, 2010
7:28 pm

josef…I can agree with you on NOT letting terrorism WIN by doing the normal things we always did and want to do. I was just having that conversation the other day with my best friend… while the topic was slightly different…it was about “fear” (as in letting your 10 year old go 4 blocks alone to her friend’s house or not)… who wins with THAT fear? The pedophiles?

Yet, I DO believe that in times of crisis there are things we sometimes need to do…to “give up” or do without. This crisis is NOT a terrorist act…but it truly needs to be a wake up call to show the “dirty” business the oil industry is…on ALL levels. From greed, market manipulation, dealing with terrorist regimes (Saudi Arabia) with a hand shake and a smile, and now…pristine areas teaming with life that will die in the billions (real living breathing lives…it matters to THEM when they can no longer breath and suffocate slowly and cruelly)… so as Americans we should ALL be making a pledge to live our lives a little differently in how we use energy… from our homes, to the cars we drive, to car pooling, using mass transit, new technologies… it would be a shame for America to let this happen and for ALL of us to not make some lifestyle changes. I mean do you really care when you charge your laptop if it’s getting it’s energy from coal, oil, gas, natural gas, wind, solar… I do. I’d prefer NOT to use something that is “dirty” if that option is available. I’m willing to pay MORE for it now if needed. Think of the amount of infrastructure that was needed to wire every home to electricity, phone, cable, etc… if there is ANY country that has the know how…WE do. I guess time will tell if Americans see this as the “point” in which we change our approach to how we live our lives, and what we can say we DID about this tragedy. In 20 years, it won’t be about the “blame” game as much as… hey…this “mess” is still here… and HOPEFULLY we can look back and say THAT was when America weaned itself off of dirty fuel. There is no such thing as “clean” oil or coal.

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
7:28 pm

Saul says, “I report….please list the THREE felonies…”
Whiner answers, “I believe committing a felony would be one of them.”

Good grief.

Q. Why is the sky blue?
A. I believe because it’s blue would be one reason.

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
7:31 pm

eyes

I was at work at school that day. It is etched in my mind as clearly as if it happened ten minutes ago. There is always, though, that humorous element even in the most tragic of events. When we came back to school, one of my parents, an Algerian, and I were talking. Her little one, who had an unblemished attendance record, was absent on 9/11…she was bringing in a doctor’s report “for the record!” :-)

@@

May 24th, 2010
7:32 pm

Glad you enjoyed it.

Didn’t read it, jay. I was talking about the 824 comments. When you’re lacking you go for religion or race. It’s always a winner for you.

I didn’t read it because I fully anticipated some of the usual ridicule. Even if there was some among the 824, you wouldn’t have objected. You never do.

I just went back and read the first two pages.

I’m not one who believes in tongues, but I’da never said something like this:

Jay, its a wonder the guard didnt start speaking in tongues. You know, abbalblbaooaalsdoala oa aooa !!!

Neither am I one to refer to someone’s faith as horse_____ regardless of which faith it involves.

We breed such sheepish cowards here in the Bible belt.

Nor would I refer to a regional people as cowardly sheep.

^^^ That’s why I don’t participate when your topic is religion, jay. It’s just not my thing.

Obviously you enjoy it.

Whatever makes you happy.

In Purpletuity

May 24th, 2010
7:32 pm

It is a felony to commit a felony and
in doing so,
one has committed a felony and
in doing so,
one has committed a felony and… .

Saul Good

May 24th, 2010
7:33 pm

WHich “commandment” is that felony? ;-)

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
7:35 pm

Saul–
I agree with much of what you say. As far as “that mess” is concerned down that way, my own perspective as to how and why is decidedly from what most would consider the lunatic fringe…but in my worldview, this is a problem long predating either the present or past administration and goes back to 1803, and with the gap between 1763 and 1803, back to 1699. “a faraway people about whom we know very little…”

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
7:38 pm

josef, yes, I can still see that day in my mind as well. Some others are the day JFK was assasinated, the day I found out that RFK had passed away (I was hitching a ride in Japan, and the truck driver with tears in his eyes told me), and with lesser importance, I suppose, the day OJ’s glove did not fit.

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
7:42 pm

@@

Be that all as it may, he still has “no problem” with preacher Warren…ISH

Drowning in a sea of rednecks

May 24th, 2010
7:43 pm

The article was spot on, the rest of you are too needy of giving an opinion you heard on the radio.

AmVet

May 24th, 2010
7:44 pm

Some felonious felonator folks are going to the Bushisms well tonight!

Just don’t go nucular on me…

Speaking of Aunt Bee, she makes an appearance at the end…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey8ujsGzIjM

Saul Good

May 24th, 2010
7:45 pm

Time to go out for my “vegan” dinner (so I can stimulate the economy that belongs to “elitist’s” fat bank accounts)… adios (and a “Praise Allah” out to my dear friend Dusty whenever she gets a chance to see this)…

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
7:47 pm

A Saulute to you. :-)

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
7:53 pm

“Drowning in a sea of rednecks ”

And the G-od L-rd willing you’re going down for the third time…classist!

Too many opinions not enough dates

May 24th, 2010
7:54 pm

You guys really need dates. I mean desperately! I see a bunch of one handed typists that don’t get out much from their mothers basement where they still live & blog after 40 years of age.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

May 24th, 2010
7:54 pm

Well, I reckon Jay Bookman gets the right to take most of a day off to write one of those boring AJC columns. That’s OK with me, long as I don’t have to read it.

Anyway, it figures the libruls would blast the only guvmint agency to give real service to the people they regulate. I mean, the women at MMS slept with the men at the oil cos. And the women at the oil cos. slept with the men at MMS. And I expect a few of the men at MMS and the oil cos. slept with each other too, I don’t know. Now that’s service! Looks like the only thing that never got done was the regulation part.

Anyhow, been watching all the news shows about the oil spill. Somebody with a strong net and a bulldozer and maybe a few tanker trucks could make a mint. And it looks like alot of the Cajuns down there ain’t too happy about having their jobs ruint for the next 50 years. I don’t think I’d be down there if I was a guvmint big shot or a worker for BP.

Anyhow, I hate to bring up this morning again but I reckon it was the Lords Will for that oil well to blow. It’s just too bad somebody forgot to put on a couple safety valves. Slow as things are going down there, it won’t be long till people can just walk on the water when that oil gets hard.

But we got to take the long view. In another year or so this will all be over with and they’ll go right back to drilling in the Gulf again like nothing ever happened. Right now, alot of people are talking about how they’re gonna do this and they’re gonna do that to keep this from ever happening again, but it all slips the mind in a few months and things will go right back to the way they were. I already read today where Sara said this Gulf spill just goes to show how much better it would be just to open up all that land in Alaska and drill there. Like I said before, people don’t learn nothing from tradegies.

Have a good night everybody.

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
7:58 pm

Paul

May 24th, 2010
7:59 pm

From a post earlier this morning: (source from NY Times): [[ “Report: Drilling permits, waivers continue”

“WASHINGTON — In the days since President Barack Obama announced a moratorium on permits for drilling new offshore wells and a halt to a controversial type of environmental waiver that was given to the Deepwater Horizon, at least seven drilling permits and five waivers have been granted, according to records.

It was observed during Pres Bush’s term, when every questionable action by the Executive agencies was laid directly at Bush’s feet as his responsibility, that the federal bureaucracy is a vast entity that plods on its way regardless of what’s said by the guy at the top. “Oh, no” came the response. “This is Bush’s fault.”

Maybe now those people will reconsider their attitude.]]

I will give the Obama Administration credit for addressing the attitude. Sadly, it wasn’t enough.

Oh – and stop the stupid practice of giving high-ranking federal execs cash bonuses for meeting leasing deadlines. And get rid of the metrics that indicate quick approval of leases is in any way related to their mission.

Haven’t those idiots ever compared what they do with their mission statement?

Soothsayer

May 24th, 2010
8:03 pm

Tired of blogging? Jump over to CNBC.

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
8:05 pm

Hey, Paul…
Since you follow education things…got our bubble-in report and our kids did pretty d*mned good!

Paul

May 24th, 2010
8:05 pm

good evening, josef nix

“Look, I’m no Obama fan by a long shot, but other than a pr gambit, just what COULD he have done in the last 35 days…?”

Hold effective staff meetings and hold Secretaries accountable. Dismiss the press, go around the table and ask “what are your top three problems? What’s progress on fixing? What are the top ten GAO findings? Status?

Then at the next staff meeting get updates and roll on to the next problems.

Management 101.

Or experience. Take your pick.

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
8:07 pm

Another off the topic (my last one) but topical item of interest.

Another sex scandal in S.C.?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/05/24/2326730.aspx

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
8:07 pm

PAUL

Point made and point taken.

ObamaRahma

May 24th, 2010
8:09 pm

You’ve had since 1990. So, what have you come up with.

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
8:09 pm

Paul, but how do you know that was NOT done?

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
8:10 pm

Call it Communications 101

josef nix

May 24th, 2010
8:11 pm

eyes

Say whatever else you will about our Palmetto State neighbors…they do seem to get more than their fair share of n*oky… :-)

ObamaRahma

May 24th, 2010
8:14 pm

North Korea has offered to enter into an oil for subs program. Torpedos are extra. Something about wanting a ranch in Crawford, Texas.

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
8:14 pm

Josef, does South Carolina have an NBA franchise? If not, maybe the Knicks could be enticed to move their and rename itself the South Carolina Knookie Backers. :-)

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
8:14 pm

oops. move there…

Paul

May 24th, 2010
8:16 pm

eyes

Saw a piece on Adm Sestak. One of his family members had a serious health problem. Said he got excellent care from the military and doesn’t see why every American shouldn’t benefit from the same system..

Who’da thunk an admiral would be a socialist? :-)

Congrats, josef nix!

Just spoke with my sis – 6:30 pm and just heading home. TAKS results – had a couple kids not pass, but it seems her disadvantaged, nearly entirely minority and mostly below poverty school’s gonna get an exemplary rating. First time ever. Nice.

theyeshaveit

May 24th, 2010
8:19 pm

Sestak, I believe shows a lot of promise.

Paul

May 24th, 2010
8:21 pm

eyes 8:09

Pronoun reference. What’s the ‘it’?

Paul

May 24th, 2010
8:23 pm

eyes

Sorry, ‘that’, not ‘it”