BP finally admits Gulf spill is a lot larger than it had claimed
According to BP, it is now siphoning off as many as 5,000 barrels of oil a day from the leaking pipe on the floor of the Gulf of Mexico. That’s great news, since the company has been telling us that the leak itself was putting out 5,000 barrels a day. Problem solved, right BP?
Right?
Wrong.
The company has now been forced to acknowledge that outside scientists were right, that the leak is dumping a lot more than 5,000 barrels a day into the Gulf. How much more? The company won’t say, but thanks to pressure by Congress and the administration, you can see for yourself. The company has agreed to post a live video feed from the site, which can be seen here. It isnt’ pretty. (The site can be a little balky, probably because of heavy traffic.)
Meanwhile, fresh from arguing that the Civil Rights Act was an unconstitutional imposition on business, Rand Paul is now chastising President Obama for being too hard on BP. From the AP:
“What I don’t like from the president’s administration is this sort of, ‘I’ll put my boot heel on the throat of BP,’” Paul said in an interview with ABC’s “Good Morning America.” “I think that sounds really unAmerican in his criticism of business.”
Other Republicans have criticized the administration’s handling of the oil spill, but few have been so vocal in defending BP, the company responsible for the deep well and offshore rig that exploded last month, killing 11 workers.
… Paul, a libertarian and tea party favorite, said he had heard nothing from BP indicating it wouldn’t pay for the spill that threatens devastating environmental damage along the Gulf of Mexico coast.
“And I think it’s part of this sort of blame-game society in the sense that it’s always got to be somebody’s fault instead of the fact that maybe sometimes accidents happen,” Paul said.
On Sunday, BP officials are scheduled to take their next shot at shutting down the leak. They hope to suffocate it with heavy mud, followed by a permanent seal of cement, a process known as a “top kill.” I’ve looked around, and I can’t find anybody willing to take an educated guess on their odds of success. But it’s pretty clear that Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and other officials are growing increasingly anxious about the oil now starting to come ashore.
The map below, from NOAA, demonstrates why. It shows the predicted spread of the spill through Sunday.
Again, it’s not pretty.
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I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
May 21st, 2010
12:12 pm
Yeah, but they still can’t find it, just sayin….
Maybe it will wash up in Atlanta and you libs can have a giant hate America party?
saywhat?
May 21st, 2010
12:18 pm
“And I think it’s part of this sort of blame-game society in the sense that it’s always got to be somebody’s fault instead of the fact that maybe sometimes accidents happen,” Paul said.
Spoken like a true libertarian. It only somebody’s fault if their poor. Bad things only happen to the rich by accident, and its nobody’s fault.Can’t wait to hear the blame placed on the fisherman and coastal tourism workers for being unemployed as a result of this spill, due to their “bad decisions”.
Compromised Position
May 21st, 2010
12:19 pm
Accidents do happen. That drill accidentally started up on its own and accidentally made its way down to oil and… accidents did happen. So we need to feel sorry for BP, et al, and their long string of most unfortunate events. Accidents. Bad luck. That’s all it is. Just a lot of bad luck. We need some charity concerts or something to help raise some money for BP. Maybe we can get a few country singers to donate a song. Maybe some Dixie Chicks.
bleary
May 21st, 2010
12:20 pm
If the oil spill washed up in Atlanta maybe we can have a giant hate oil party and get around to coming up with a real energy policy, not another oil policy.
Compromised Position
May 21st, 2010
12:23 pm
Yeah, but they still can’t find it, just sayin….
Uh Huh.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
May 21st, 2010
12:28 pm
Why has obozo not mobilized his beloved government to defeat this horrible disaster?
I mean, you libs really are concerned about it, aren’t you?
Just askin…
Compromised Position
May 21st, 2010
12:32 pm
I mean, you libs really are concerned about it, aren’t you?
Nah! As long as it stays confined to those southern red state’s beaches, it’s all good.
Rightwing Troll
May 21st, 2010
12:32 pm
Why don’t you folks look up seepage?
Scout
May 21st, 2010
12:40 pm
So? Plug it first and then clean it up !
Just like we should do with illegal immigration ……………..
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
May 21st, 2010
12:40 pm
Hey! Who’s jacking Hole’s nickname?
songbird
May 21st, 2010
12:49 pm
This accident is totally BP’s fault. They made bad decisions on safety and procedure operating the rig and it blew up. did any of you watch the interview of the guy who was on the rig when it blew up and jumped into the water to save himself? Also, 60 minutes, on the same show, interviewed an engineer who used to work for them and was fired for calling them out on safety violations. Rand Paul is an even bigger idiot than his father. You’re welcome to him Kentucky.
@@
May 21st, 2010
12:51 pm
Well, aside from Paul’s chiding Obama for his bashing of business, you and Rand are on the same page, jay.
YOU: And how this all ends, nobody knows. We humans have forgotten how frustrating it is to be largely helpless in the face of such a mess, particularly one of our own making. Thanks to modern technology, we have become accustomed to believe that for every problem there is a solution. Well, sometimes there just isn’t. Once in a while, we just really screw ourselves, and this is certainly one of those times.
RAND PAUL: “And I think it’s part of this sort of blame-game society in the sense that it’s always got to be somebody’s fault instead of the fact that maybe sometimes accidents happen,” Paul said.
Since you mentioned modern technology, I don’t know why this technology has been overlooked. I saw a demonstration on TeeWee. It was amazing!!! The trapped oil can be recycled too.
Did you ever find out why there were no fire booms on hand, jay? You seemed concerned.
John Galt
May 21st, 2010
1:00 pm
Yeah, accidents do happen. Just like Massey Mines, these companies are in a tough and dirty businesses and the President of the United States should not be so anti-business in criticizing these entrepreneurs and free enterprise companies that make our country great!
The community organizer has never even participated in business. Where does he get off talking bad about the companies that are the backbone of AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM!!!
JohnnyReb
May 21st, 2010
1:01 pm
Oil spill, bad news and my thoughts and prayers are with those trying to fix the mess. The real cause of the accident remains unknown, all the news stories are likely hit and miss. Being from aviation, I know how they absolutely butcher the reporting when there is a crash or serious accident, so I dont’ expect their reporting on the oil spill to be any better.
As to Rand Paul, it’s progressive politics. The Democratic party sent out about 10 messages to new services trying to get them to whip up this story, obviously Jay received one and bought right in. I have listened to the Rand Paul interviews; he was dumb in letting them, the left, drag him into this subject. After all, they are supreme experts on playing the race or discrimination card when they have no other defense. He has stated he does not want to repeal the civil rights act, and that he supports all but he private business portions. If you think he is wrong about the private business portions, then you likely never have owned a small business.
theyeshaveit
May 21st, 2010
1:01 pm
Scout, asking BP to plug the leak, is a little like asking the Repugnants to come up with a plan on financial reform – a lot of feet dragging trying to hold off the inevitable.
Hind sight
May 21st, 2010
1:02 pm
Events in rear-view mirror are larger than they appear.
Scooter
May 21st, 2010
1:05 pm
Hey that smart sponge is a great idea @@! I hope they come in the Gigantic Econo size.
JohnnyReb
May 21st, 2010
1:07 pm
theyeshaveit – it appears you have no real knowledge of big business. Do you really think BP does not have the best minds in the world working the problem regardless of their employer. BP could go out of business because of this, yet they are fiddling while Rome burns. Right.
Square Pants
May 21st, 2010
1:08 pm
There’s only so much of me to go around and that’s a big, I mean B-I-G, BIG oil spill. I’m going to need some help.
Mr. Snarky
May 21st, 2010
1:14 pm
Poor BP! I’m just glad they have Rand to stand up for them against the anti-business forces. It’s clear that BP is just a victim of incompetent regulators and oil company haters.
@@
May 21st, 2010
1:15 pm
Scooter:
I think the smart sponge was intended for use immediately after. It’s intended to contain and trap the oil, limiting the surface spread. Don’t know about the oil beneath the surface. Just looks like they could expand on its capabilities. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
theyeshaveit
May 21st, 2010
1:15 pm
John Galt said, Yeah, accidents do happen. Just like Massey Mines, these companies are in a tough and dirty businesses and the President of the United States should not be so anti-business in criticizing these entrepreneurs and free enterprise companies that make our country great!
The community organizer has never even participated in business. Where does he get off talking bad about the companies that are the backbone of AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM!!!
John Galt, the Financial Reform has passed in the Senate (it passed in the House way back in December). I suppose that you think that the advocates of financial reform are anti-business? The bill will, in fact, aid those of who live closer to Main Street than Wall-Street. It is time to reign in these arrogant bastards who are governing at BP, Goldman Sachs, AIG et al.
Americans do not want to hear hear crap from Blankfein at Goldman Sachs about how he “was doing God’s work.” Nor do Americans wish to hear the evasive claptrap coming out of BP’s Lamar McKay. Real Americans take exception to their incessant, evasive and wholly dishonest testimony.
The Three Marketeers
May 21st, 2010
1:16 pm
And to think that none of this would have happened if either that fire boom had been where @@ told them to put it or else the Republicans were still in power.
Mr. Snarky
May 21st, 2010
1:17 pm
I’m sure Rand would agree with me that it’s BP’s oil, so they should be able to spew it all over the Gulf if they want to. Private property!
Outhouse GoKart
May 21st, 2010
1:17 pm
songbird
May 21st, 2010
12:49 pm
WRONG. The accident is totally the fault of the govt as govt controls, monitors and approves of methods used by the oil companies.
Bosch
May 21st, 2010
1:19 pm
“The accident is totally the fault of the govt as govt controls, monitors and approves of methods used by the oil companies.”
Put down the crack pipe Outhouse.
Jefferson
May 21st, 2010
1:20 pm
The more Rand Paul talks, the harder it should be for him to win.
Mr. Snarky
May 21st, 2010
1:21 pm
“WRONG. The accident is totally the fault of the govt as govt controls, monitors and approves of methods used by the oil companies.”
Clearly they were out of compliance. So I guess you’re saying a govt regulator should be on all rigs at all time to ensure they’re compliant. So the govt isn’t active enough…is that right?
theyeshaveit
May 21st, 2010
1:21 pm
Johnny, first of all, you have no idea what my background in business is. Secondly, BP putting their best minds to the task does not assure us that they are putting their best efforts to the task. Case in point, more effective, yet less lethal to the environment, chemical dispersants are sitting in Texas. The American company that manufactures them loaded them up to be used by BP two weeks ago. Yes, it seems that BP’s best minds are sitting on their hands on this one.
The Three Marketeers
May 21st, 2010
1:21 pm
The accident is totally the fault of the govt as govt controls, monitors and approves of methods used by the oil companies.
Okay. It is the government’s fault. Therefore, the government should clean it up and the government will need funding from those that fund the government to do that. Sounds like yet another reason to raise taxes to me. Thank you for your support Mr. O. GoKart.
Outhouse GoKart
May 21st, 2010
1:21 pm
No way…Govt regulates this industry and takes millions in kickbacks and bribes to look the other way.
Jack Torrent
May 21st, 2010
1:24 pm
Wouldn’t a small underwater explosion solve the problem?
Explosives would make the well collapse and therefore stop the flow.
Off course the well would be lost for BP, but should we care about that?
Jack
http://www.curado.com
The Three Marketeers
May 21st, 2010
1:25 pm
Any money that the government got in kickback and bribes was spent on posh vacation accomodations, election/re-election campaigns, porn, etc., so the government will need taxpayer dollars to take care of the mess that they created. That’s just the price of oil these days.
AmVet
May 21st, 2010
1:26 pm
“Yeah, but
theyI still can’t find it cuz I have my head so far up my…, just idiotically sayin….”Scooter
May 21st, 2010
1:27 pm
Good afternoon @@! I used to be in that business and the smart sponge is a good product.It absorbs oil and very little water.But, at this point they have never produced enough of them to handle a leak of this magnitude. Let’s hope for the best!
theyeshaveit
May 21st, 2010
1:28 pm
Outhouse, it is easy to deny. A child could do that. It is a lot harder to back up what one says by way of fact. Be a man, and show some proof. Prove to us with undeniably, definitive evidence that it is the government’s fault and BP should bear no culpability.
Cost Containment Center
May 21st, 2010
1:30 pm
Wouldn’t a small underwater explosion solve the problem?
Explosives would make the well collapse and therefore stop the flow.
Off course the well would be lost for BP, but should we care about that?
Jack
I’m sorry but we are only interested in solutions that are profitable for BP. Why do you think that we are not interested in the spilled oil. It costs money to collect and clean that polluted oil. The oil that we are collecting from our newly installed pipe is free of pollutants and contaminants. Besides, we have insurance for that other stuff — taxpayers.
Gale
May 21st, 2010
1:30 pm
Just curious. Did anyone see how much this well pumped daily when it was working properly?
AmVet
May 21st, 2010
1:31 pm
“Well, aside from Paul’s chiding Obama for his
bashing of businesstrying to hold BP, Transocean and Haliburton accountable to the rule of law for once,…”stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
1:34 pm
“I think that sounds really un-American in his criticism of business.”
It’s un-American to criticize British Petroleum?
Scooter
May 21st, 2010
1:35 pm
Gale
May 21st, 2010
1:30 pm
Gale- I have seen no figures but you better believe BP knew those figures down to almost the gallon per hour!
Jay
May 21st, 2010
1:36 pm
It wasn’t in production yet.
Scooter
May 21st, 2010
1:39 pm
Oh, @@. I forgot to say that the smart sponge is designed to recover refined petro products and not crude.
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
1:39 pm
This is interesting.
stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
1:40 pm
It wasn’t in production yet.
what wasn’t? The sponge, the dispersant, the Dixie Chicks…?
AmVet
May 21st, 2010
1:40 pm
songbird, we can’t have no snitches trying to expose corporate crime, malfeasance, fraud and criminal negligence!
Hell we don’t even want Uncle Sam doing that!
Why are you conned so pro-criminal and so anti-police?
I remember when the GOP touted itself as tough on crime and for being the Law & Order Party.
Then the white collar criminals and pro-crime neo-cons hijacked the damn thing…
Scooter
May 21st, 2010
1:43 pm
I guess you can forget what I said at 1:35 Gale. Thanks for the info Jay!
Scooter
May 21st, 2010
1:45 pm
stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
1:40 pm
Too funny DB!
AmVet
May 21st, 2010
1:50 pm
And any of you ever-conned who think these enormously subsidized companies are really going to pay for the cost of the cleanup probably insisted for years on end that George Bush was a conservative.
The cost to you and me is ultimately going to be gargantuan.
Drill, baby, drill…
stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
1:51 pm
Too funny DB!
I guess it’s the dispersant. (Ok, call me thick as a tar ball, but I really wasn’t sure at first…)
Scout
May 21st, 2010
1:52 pm
Plug it and “drill baby drill !”
John Galt
May 21st, 2010
1:52 pm
theyshaveit: It is time to reign in these arrogant bastards who are governing at BP, Goldman Sachs, AIG et al.
Oil, financial services and insurance are the most highly regulated businesses in the world. And if you think more government regulation is the problem, you’re naive or don’t understand economics (or both). The reasons there are problems in these industries is BECAUSE of regulation. It will only get worse with more regulation. And the regulation is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
AmVet
May 21st, 2010
1:53 pm
“We inherited here what was a legacy of an agency that essentially was rubber-stamping whatever it was that the oil and gas industry wanted,” Salazar said. “We have been on a reform agenda from Day One.”
Yeah, riiight, Tweedle Dees.
Had this deadly disaster not occurred, you’d be doing the exact same thing as your Tweedle Dum brothers – nothing.
Hyper-corrupt business as usual…
Scooter
May 21st, 2010
1:56 pm
The cost to you and me is ultimately going to be gargantuan
It always has and always will be AmVet! Bend over and take it like a man dude. Ouch!
Bosch
May 21st, 2010
1:57 pm
“Had this deadly disaster not occurred, you’d be doing the exact same thing as your Tweedle Dum brothers – nothing.”
AmVet you crack me up. So, tell, us, how do you REALLY feel?
Doggone/GA
May 21st, 2010
1:57 pm
“Wouldn’t a small underwater explosion solve the problem?”
A small one wouldn’t work. I heard a report on NPR (last week maybe?) that Russia had used large explosions several times in the past to stop gas leaks (not oil) and it took ATOM BOMBS to stop them. These were underground explosions and the bombs used were twice the size of the ones used on Hiroshima and Nagasski.
Doggone/GA
May 21st, 2010
1:59 pm
” Did anyone see how much this well pumped daily when it was working properly?”
It’s never been a working well. They were still drilling it.
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
2:00 pm
Using the new estimate of 95,000 barrels per day leaking from that little old pipe in the Gulf, the ratio of oil spewing from that one BP-made geyser to all the oil naturally seeping out under the entire Gulf of Mexico is about 32:1.
stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
2:00 pm
There was a guy
An under water guy who controlled the sea
Got killed by ten million pounds of sludge
from Transocean and BP
(looks like I’ll be linking to various versions of this ditty for a lot more Fridays to come, unfortunately.)
Mr. Snarky
May 21st, 2010
2:03 pm
“The more Rand Paul talks, the harder it should be for him to win.”
I’m beginning to think the Dems funded his primary campaign.
Scooter
May 21st, 2010
2:04 pm
Bosch
May 21st, 2010
1:57 pm
Too funny Bosch! I had to ask him that this morn.
Dubie
May 21st, 2010
2:04 pm
they need to clean this up before serious things happen
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
2:07 pm
Where is Big John when you need him the most.
Scout
May 21st, 2010
2:08 pm
“OFF TOPIC #1″
Headline: “Some Democrats on the campaign trail have hit upon a winning campaign tactic: Run against President Obama and his agenda — especially the health care overhaul.”
Hummmmm …………….. what say ye libs. ?
Doggone/GA
May 21st, 2010
2:11 pm
“what say ye libs”
What is there to say? The are at liberty to run on any platform they think will get them elected. The only opinion that matters is the one that happens in the voting booth.
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
2:11 pm
Sadly, the bottom line with this spill is that we likely only know about how bad it really is because more of it came to the surface than tests and modeling from ten years ago had predicted. It was supposed to stay underwater and out of sight.
Scout
May 21st, 2010
2:12 pm
“OFF TOPIC #2″
Headline: “While Arizona faces the scorn of the White House and local governments across the country for its immigration law, lawmakers in several states are looking to follow the Grand Canyon State’s lead.
Lawmakers and politicians in Texas, Rhode Island, Utah and Georgia are among those who, in the month since Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed the law, have announced plans to introduce similar legislation.”
Rhode Island ???
Hummmm ……………… what say ye libs. ?
Scout
May 21st, 2010
2:12 pm
Doggone/GA :
Exactly ! The hypocrisy is stunning !
John Birch
May 21st, 2010
2:13 pm
Ultimately this is the faultof the illegal alien Jessica Colotl and her ilk. Millions of illegals who would have been driving donkey carts in their native land have entered out county illegally and are now driving on our streets illegally jacking up the cost of and demand for oil. Consequently, BP and their ilk have been forcced to dig moe dangerous wells in deeper water,
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
2:15 pm
The are at liberty to run on any platform they think will get them elected.
How ’bout the Horizon.
JohnnyReb
May 21st, 2010
2:15 pm
theyeshaveit @ 1:21 pm – Johnny, first of all, you have no idea what my background in business is.
You are 100 percent correct; I don’t, and its not showing in your posts etther. So you have first hand knowledge of those better chemicals do you, or did you get the info from some tree hugger?
Point being, if anyone thinks BP is not doing everything possible to stop the leak and make the cleanup as good as possible, your nuts.
Scout
May 21st, 2010
2:17 pm
JohnnyReb:
Are you still using that “racist” handle? Good for you !
Doggone/GA
May 21st, 2010
2:17 pm
“The hypocrisy is stunning !”
What hypocrisy?
JohnnyReb
May 21st, 2010
2:18 pm
Holly Cow! I have to sign off. Ann Coulter is on FOX talking about the AZ immigration bill. Beauty and conservative brains in one package. Umm, Umm, Umm!
moonbat betty
May 21st, 2010
2:19 pm
Hopefully, obama is thinking of ways to impose huge tax increases against the oil industry.
stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
2:19 pm
The are at liberty to run on any platform they think will get them elected.
Also–somehow I imagine there were GOP congresscritters out there running for re-election in 1982 less than eager to embrace Ronald Reagan’s economic vision that had produced a 9.7% unemployment rate at the time.
How ’bout the Horizon.
not funny.
Bosch
May 21st, 2010
2:20 pm
“Beauty and conservative brains in one package.”
Does anyone have a mint? I just threw up in my mouth a little.
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
2:21 pm
Point being, if anyone thinks BP is not doing everything possible to stop the leak and make the cleanup as good as possible, your nuts
I don’t think they’re doing, as you say, “everything possible” and I think that you would have to be nuts to think otherwise.
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
2:22 pm
not funny.
Who said it was meant to be.
Peter Calabria
May 21st, 2010
2:22 pm
Top kill can’t work nor can junk shot. The physical chemistry of the mess says absolutely it can’t because working at 2000 psi a mile down is the equivalent of working on the surface of the sun. No, am not saying that it is hot down there, but that the physics of it is that difficult. Won’t work, can’t work, stuck with three more months of this until the oceans of the world are flooded with what will come to be called B-Poop. Guaranteed, nothing they’ll try in the short term will work.
joan
May 21st, 2010
2:23 pm
Accidents happen when federal regulators are taking money from the very people they are regulating. Kind of like Congress taking money from lobbiests and representing their interests instead of the interests of the people that voted for them. Kind of like that. Fannie Mae, this oil spill, and the bank problems wouldn’t have occurred if the federal laws were enforced. Oh yes, and we wouldn’t have an illegals problem, if the feds actually enforced the law and kept them out as they are empowered (and responsible for) doing.
JohnnyReb
May 21st, 2010
2:24 pm
Bosch – if you could post photos on this blog, I would post the montage that shows why Republican men are happier.
Scout – yes, I’m sticking with my handle. I decided anyone who immediately thinks I’m a racisit is a bigot!
joan
May 21st, 2010
2:24 pm
Oil floats on top of water. I can’t figure out why somebody isn’t just “skimming it off the top” as it were. Kind of like taking the tops of wheat off the chaff. If somebody could figure out how to do that they would get rich. I mean there are skimmers for things like butter, why not on a larger scale??
stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
2:25 pm
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Then whatever you do, do not click this link. Repeat, do not click this link.
(NSFW)
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
2:27 pm
Oil floats on top of water.
Check out the link in my 1:39 post.
stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
2:27 pm
Top kill can’t work nor can junk shot.
Sounds dirtier than anything in my link @ 2.25.
JohnnyReb
May 21st, 2010
2:28 pm
Joan – Kevin Costner has proposed using centrafuge devices. The reports are he invested over 20 million in the concept. Don’t know if they will try it, but it works similar to what you suggest.
John
May 21st, 2010
2:31 pm
Criticising a foriegn oil company is unAmerican?
Outhouse GoKart
May 21st, 2010
2:31 pm
“Hopefully, obama is thinking of ways to impose huge tax increases against the oil industry.”
Kindve like a “pass-thru” to the American public. And he said he wasnt gonna raise our taxes.
stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
2:34 pm
Criticising a foriegn oil company is unAmerican?
Well, nothing says red-blooded patriotic like “ok, ok, I’d vote for your stupid Civil Rights Act of 1964, even though I still think hotels, restaurants, theaters, airlines and such oughta have the God-given right not to serve coloreds! Happy now?”
moonbat betty
May 21st, 2010
2:35 pm
I think I just sharted.
AmVet
May 21st, 2010
2:36 pm
What spill, Andy and the Corporal?
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/US/05/21/gulf.oil.spill/t1main.oil.land.04.cnn.jpg
Sorry, the anti-Semite Mann Coulter’s Adams apple kind of ruins it for me.
That, and her sophomoric worldview and hatred of everybody she disagrees with…
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
May 21st, 2010
2:36 pm
Well, I’m sure glad you all are fussing about something besides the gays.
I can’t hardly help feeling a little sorry for BP. I mean, all this time people talked about how we need more oil and we need to drill here and drill now. The Southren guvners were the ones that were yelling the loudest about it. Now we got plenty of oil coming out and are these guvners happy? No, they’re whimpering like a kid that fell and scraped his knee. This Jindal looks like he’s going to break down and bawl just any time.
And then we got all the people that said the guvmint needs to get out of the way and let Free Innerprize work. So guvmint gets out of the way and the people working for it start sleeping with the oil co. employees and don’t do nothing to get in the way. And are the people that wanted guvmint to get out of the way happy now? No, they’re all yelling that guvmint ain’t doing enough and the oil is going to kill all the fish and birds and everything is going to be ruint because guvmint ain’t doing nothing.
Anyhow, it beats me. Danged if I can figure any of you out. But at least you know I’m almost finished stocking and you can set around and listen to your weird music tonight and soak your brain in alcohol.
Have a good p.m. everybody.
John Fernbach
May 21st, 2010
2:38 pm
I don’t understand the post of “I report; you whine,” who wrote:
“Maybe it will wash up in Atlanta and you libs can have a giant hate America party?”
Is “report” actually saying that people must believe in “hating America” whenever they criticize a British-owned petroleum company for potentially wrecking the tourism industry of southern Mississippi and the fishing industry of Louisiana?
Is that what “America” is to you, Mr. Report? The right of a giant foreign-owned corporation to do billions of dollars in damage to the Gulf coast beaches and coastal wetlands of five or six states in the US, and not get any flack for it?
Also, when did it become “liberal” to think that American commercial fishermen and American resort owners & the natural environment should all be protected from gross environmental pollution on the part of the oil industry?
If you get angry at the oil industry sometimes and you don’t want it destroying the bayous of southern Louisiana, does that make you a “liberal”?
I’m a democratic socialist myself, not a liberal. But I think there are probably some conservative Republicans, too, who don’t approve of BP’s accident destroying the environment & the economy of southern Lousiana.
JohnnyReb
May 21st, 2010
2:38 pm
From American Solutions – A new study by Point Carbon shows that the Global Warming Bill authored by John Kerry (D-MA) and Joe Lieberman (I-CT) amounts to a new gasoline tax on American motorists. As The Hill newspaper reports: Oil refiners would not participate in the trading system but would purchase allowances based on historic sales figures set aside each quarter. The companies would pass those costs on to consumers, resulting in the higher gas costs.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 21st, 2010
2:39 pm
I don’t know a thing about the oil business and not a whole lot about the ocean but I’d think skimming would work great in calm water (theoretically anyway). 10 or 15 foot seas my change things, I would think. (Think something like the 25 foot seas you often see on Deadliest Catch).
@@
May 21st, 2010
2:40 pm
UNITED NATIONS — The Obama administration on Friday lifted sanctions against four Russian entities involved in illicit weapons trade with Iran and Syria since 1999, and acknowledged exempting a Russian-Iranian missile deal from a U.N. draft resolution banning most missile sales to Iran.
The move comes just three days after the U.S., Russia and other key powers reached agreement on a draft resolution sanctioning Iran for violating U.N. demands to halt its uranium enrichment program. The draft includes a loophole that would exempt a 2005 Russian deal, valued at hundreds of millions of dollars, to sell Tehran five S-300 surface-to-air missile systems.
The United States also lifted sanctions against D. Mendeleyev University of Chemical Technology of Russia, which was sanctioned in 1999 for aiding Iran’s missile program, and Tula Instrument Design Bureau, which was sanctioned the same year for supplying anti-tank equipment to Syria. Since the beginning of the year, the Obama administration has also lifted sanctions against two other Russian firms, Glavkosmos and Baltic State Technical University, for their dealings with Iran.
Whose side is the Obama administration on, anyway?
Kol Tuv, Israel.
@@
May 21st, 2010
2:47 pm
Oops, sorry the 2:40 was from The Washington Post.
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
2:48 pm
The companies would pass those costs on to consumers, resulting in the higher gas costs.
Oh No! Not the dreaded higher gas costs. This calls for a tax break for corporations and all persons making over $250,000 per year.
RW-(the original)
May 21st, 2010
2:48 pm
That 2:25 still being up makes you wonder how a fairly benign comment about johnny one note’s schtick can disappear in the flash of an instant.
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Since the lib message now seems to be that this well is going to spill tens of thousands of barrels into the Gulf forever can we finally start ignoring them when they say a given area we want to drill in only has a tiny little bit of oil that’s not worth going after?
@@
May 21st, 2010
2:52 pm
RW:
I’ve grown accustomed to it. AmVet can refer to Dusty and I as leg-humpers all day long and jay just lets it slide.
Slick, huh?
(ISH)
Normal
May 21st, 2010
2:53 pm
BP=Bayou Polluter
http://www.thenation.com/article/bp-oil-hits-louisiana-how-far-away-next-disaster
Paul
May 21st, 2010
2:53 pm
Those pictures, those executives – even the continuing bad news – are nauseous. At least Jay brought a little bit of good news.
Saw on Huffpo where some guys said using just hay can soak up oil. Likely a little easier to handle, this guy (sure he’s the owner of a business that makes the product, but so what?) was on the news showing how a plain old mattress pad soaks up oil. They dumped 3 quarts of motor oil into a wading pool, dropped the pad on it, pulled it off – and clear water. Said talking to the bureaucrats was an exercise in frustration. They’re focused on what – microorganisms that are green?
Guy needs to make a campaign contribution. Maybe then someone will listen. Other than a Republican Senatorial candidate from Nevada.
http://hpiaoat.blogspot.com/2010/05/mattress-pads-mop-up-oil-spill.html
AmVet
May 21st, 2010
2:54 pm
“And members of Congress released video from the company that showed much more oil pouring out of the damaged well than the siphon was capturing. Rep. Ed Markey, who leads a House subcommittee investigating the disaster, told reporters, “I think now we are beginning to understand that we cannot trust BP.”
“People do not trust the experts any longer,” said Markey, D-Massachusetts. “BP has lost all credibility. Now, the decisions will have to be made by others, because it is clear that they have been hiding the actual consequences of this spill.”
Not true, Representative Markey.
BP still has 5,000 barrels a day of credibility with the party first, anti-environment Republicans.
And I fully understand the poorly educated cons are incapable of understanding the interconnectedness of ecosystems, but good news for your side! Too bad for the Euro-weenie birds…
The damaging effects of the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico will be felt all the way to Europe and the Arctic, a top scientist told a congressional panel Friday.
“This is not just a regional issue for the wildlife,” said Carl Safina, the president of the Blue Ocean Institute. Safina, who recently returned from the Gulf Coast region, presented several photographs, including one of an oil-covered bird.
“There will be a nest empty in Newfoundland,” Safina said, noting common migratory patterns. Safina warned that multiple forms of marine life in the Atlantic Ocean “come into the Gulf to breed.”
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/21/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T1
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
May 21st, 2010
2:57 pm
A giant oil spill, a liberal paradise so to speak, and here they are a month later waiting, hoping, praying, nah, maybe not praying, dreaming, aahhh yes, dreaming, of oil covered beaches and animals that for some damn reason just won’t happin….
How sad…………..they are.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
May 21st, 2010
2:58 pm
Could oil free beaches be their “disaster?”
Just askin….
joan
May 21st, 2010
3:00 pm
Taxpayer–it isn’t persons making over $250,00 per year–it is couples making that much. For single people it is $200,000. So watch your revenue stream.
addicted
May 21st, 2010
3:00 pm
“The community organizer has never even participated in business. Where does he get off talking bad about the companies that are the backbone of AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM!!!”
Are you deliberately being ironic (unlikely with the John Galt nickname). You do realize that the B in BP stands for British? You know, that country whose corporations Americans had the Boston Tea Party against, after which you tea partiers named yourself?
stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
3:00 pm
RW:
I’ve grown accustomed to it.
Who knew that RW and @@ were anarcho-syndicated commune members?
now we see the violence inherent in the system!
@@
May 21st, 2010
3:01 pm
Behold, for instance, major environmental groups’ attitude toward the Gulf oil spill.
We know that before the disaster, President Obama recklessly pushed to expand offshore drilling. We also know that his Interior Department gave British Petroleum’s rig a “categorical exclusion” from environmental scrutiny and, according to the New York Times, “gave permission to BP and dozens of other oil companies to drill in the Gulf without first getting required (environmental) permits.” Worse, we know that after the spill, the same Interior Department kept issuing “categorical exclusions” for new Gulf oil operations, and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar still refuses “to rule out continued use of categorical exclusions,” as the Denver Post reported (heckuva job, Kenny!).–San Francisco Chronicle
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
3:04 pm
it isn’t persons making over $250,00 per year–it is couples making that much. For single people it is $200,000. So watch your revenue stream.
Anything over $199,999 goes to next year if you’re single. Check. Unless you make millions. Then it all just goes straight into the off-shore accounts. Double Check.
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
3:05 pm
BP. Amoco. What’s in a name.
mm
May 21st, 2010
3:06 pm
“Yeah, but they still can’t find it, just sayin….”
Actually, BP hired David Copperfield and he made the oil disappear.
“And he said he wasnt gonna raise our taxes.”
Exactly which taxes got raised?
BMDPD
May 21st, 2010
3:08 pm
blah
AmVet
May 21st, 2010
3:08 pm
Thanks for the heads up, pilgrim. I woulda missed this gem among many others:
“Well, he’s a man who believes Adam & Eve had three sons and populated the Earth, he must be right.”
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
3:09 pm
We know that before the disaster, President Obama recklessly pushed to expand offshore drilling.
I need more than a mint. Neck-high wading boots are in order for that load.
Jefferson
May 21st, 2010
3:09 pm
If a rock falls from a truck, bounces off the highway and cracks your windshield, this is considered a road hazard and the truck is not responsible. I hope BP doesn’t use that line of thinking.
moonbat betty
May 21st, 2010
3:10 pm
has anyone played pac-man on the google homepage?
Normal
May 21st, 2010
3:10 pm
Whiner,
Why aren’t you proving yourself to be better than the Libs by going down there and helping out?
@@
May 21st, 2010
3:10 pm
sfd:
jay’s the boss hereabouts. No dressing down allowed for this blogger….appropriate dress IS required.
Whatevah…..freedoms for thees but not for me.
Oh look!!!!! There’s an empty seat at the coffee shop. If you’re lucky they might let you sit with ‘em.
BMDPD
May 21st, 2010
3:10 pm
Got banned from Cyntia Tucker for using a Jesse Jackson quote. How does that happen?
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
3:12 pm
Why aren’t you proving yourself to be better than the Libs by going down there and helping out?
He’s already bought two Escalades. What more do you want from him. Well, maybe if he were to buy a fleet of Hummers.
Paul
May 21st, 2010
3:14 pm
BMDPD
Depends.
Was it something about “Hymietown”?
stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
3:15 pm
jay’s the boss hereabouts.
Ah. I thought he was King Arthur. My bad.
Normal
May 21st, 2010
3:15 pm
Taxpayer,
Normal
May 21st, 2010
3:17 pm
Jay’s the Jeffe…
moonbat betty
May 21st, 2010
3:19 pm
BMDPD- they must think you have white skin.
BMDPD
May 21st, 2010
3:19 pm
No it had something to do with his comment on Fox News.
AmVet
May 21st, 2010
3:21 pm
The SF Chronicle and Denver post are major environmental groups?
Jeezoo, these bizarre Cult of Victimhood members keep getting curiouser and curiouser…
What the hell ever happened to party of personal responsibility?
(Man, that one still makes me laugh.)
Oh wait, I found it! It’s in Newt the Nut’s Contract on America;
The Personal Responsibility Act
An act to discourage irrational whining and persecution complexes on AJC blogs by reforming and eliminating cherry picked, unsourced cut and pastes form goofball far right wing websites. This would be achieved by prohibiting blogging welfare to bloggers with an IQ under 90 and enacting a two-years-and-out provision with bloggers who consistently act like petulant brats.
Peter Calabria
May 21st, 2010
3:22 pm
First time posting down here in rebel country. Our family of seven lived up there in Murray County redneck Heaven the year after the Atlanta Olympics and met ya-all face to face including the wife and I spending three days in the county jail for telling the Sheriff we were going get our kitty cats to urinate on all the Baptist Church grave stones, charges (of terrorist threats) later dropped. Getting back to ya-all and hearing how people who dislike those struggling to earn a buck having their lives ruined by oil company shortsightedness and greed is somehow a leftist thing … as funny as a lunatic asylum filled with angry castrates. You people really are funny! All bunch of George Rekers rent-a-boy whackos!!
moonbat betty
May 21st, 2010
3:22 pm
Well, you’ll be ok here. Folks here say “Dickhead” here all the time.
Outhouse GoKart
May 21st, 2010
3:23 pm
Paul
May 21st, 2010
3:14 pm
LOL!!
BMDPD
May 21st, 2010
3:27 pm
He had said something like … Obama didn’t want certain folks to behave like certain folks. I don’t know, but the discussion was getting pretty heated. I shouldn’t have said what I said, but I was merely illustrating the double standard.
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 21st, 2010
3:28 pm
the wife and I spending three days in the county jail for telling the Sheriff we were going get our kitty cats to urinate on all the Baptist Church grave stones,
How classy of you.
AmVet
May 21st, 2010
3:29 pm
Hymietown? Hebes Unite!
BMDPD, sounds as if you’re just one of those smart ass white boys!
Peter, welcome to the AJC’s insane asylum. (Every once in awhile, when the moderator ain’t lookin’, we get to run it too!)
Mr. Snarky
May 21st, 2010
3:31 pm
“A giant oil spill, a liberal paradise so to speak, and here they are a month later waiting, hoping, praying, nah, maybe not praying, dreaming, aahhh yes, dreaming, of oil covered beaches and animals that for some damn reason just won’t happin….
How sad…………..they are.”
Whiner’s the sad one. Living in a world of darkness where his perceived enemies live hateful little lives just like his. Misery loves company.
BMDPD
May 21st, 2010
3:33 pm
AmVet, and???????? So what if I am a S.A.W.B.?
BMDPD
May 21st, 2010
3:34 pm
BMDPD is changing his handle to SAWB!
SAWB
May 21st, 2010
3:34 pm
My first post!
Obama supporter
May 21st, 2010
3:36 pm
The answer is simple.
We need more taxes on the rich(those making more than 50,000), we need more government workers, and we need an oil spill Czar.
More taxes on gas too.
And Rand Paul is a racist.
And that Calabria guy obviously got beat up for mouthing off. Probably telling someone how he used to do it in New York.
Normal
May 21st, 2010
3:36 pm
SAWB
May 21st, 2010
3:34 pm
Now you can sneak back to Cynthia’s blog…
SAWB
May 21st, 2010
3:38 pm
Normal, I think they got me by IP.
Paul
May 21st, 2010
3:39 pm
sfd
“Ah. I thought he was King Arthur. ”
Nah, King Arthur’s the guy who makes the flour –
(gotta get in at least one cooking-related comment)
Hey Peter, didn’t your momma ever tell you you’re judged by the company you keep?
This is nonrecoverable -
josef nix
May 21st, 2010
3:40 pm
Peter Calabria
@ 5:22
Well, I hope you’ve taken your Pied Noire self someplace more conducive to your Weltanschauung–like, say, Sudan?
Hillbilly–
As per your question last p.m. It was as I thought and there is no slang attachment according to those from across the Spanish speaking world. Most thought of it as “especially endearing.”
josef nix
May 21st, 2010
3:42 pm
AmVet
You rang?
Rightwing Troll
May 21st, 2010
3:42 pm
Will you all just look up seepage already???
Gale
May 21st, 2010
3:43 pm
Y’all gwan upstairs and chill.
stands for decibels
May 21st, 2010
3:45 pm
And Rand Paul is a racist.
Has anyone of note actually called him that?
Hillbilly Deluxe
May 21st, 2010
3:45 pm
Josef
Thanks. The person in question has a name ending in “ia” just as the examples you gave me last night. I was just curious and since she wouldn’t tell me what it meant, just to aggravate me I think (in a fun way), I have taken to just calling her, “Tater”.
md
May 21st, 2010
3:48 pm
Hey PC, if you want to mock folks, at least have the decency to learn how to spell it. You can use “you all” of “y’all”, but ya-all is completely foreign to this neck of the woods.
@@
May 21st, 2010
3:50 pm
They’re gonna focus on Illinois…Chicago’s suburbs to be exact, while failing to process illegals sent to them from the border states?
In the midst of an outcry over illegal immigration and Arizona’s new crackdown, a top Department of Homeland Security official visiting Chicago on Wednesday said his agency intended to step up enforcement in places such as Illinois.
Echoing comments by President Barack Obama and others in the administration, Morton said that Arizona’s new law targeting illegal immigration is not “good government.” The law makes it a crime to be in the state illegally and requires police to check suspects for immigration paperwork.
Morton said his agency will not necessarily process illegal immigrants referred to them by Arizona officials.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-immigration-laws-chicago-20100519,0,6582417.story
Sounds like political suicide to me, but what the hey!!! Go for it.
Weird!
md
May 21st, 2010
3:50 pm
“Will you all just look up seepage already???”
Us older folks know what seepage is – and it’s got nothing to do with oil
Anti-lib
May 21st, 2010
3:59 pm
Hey moron, who cares how many barrels are leaking a day!!!! The main focus is to stop the leak!!!
williebkind
May 21st, 2010
4:02 pm
We should have drilled in Anwar!
TaxPayer
May 21st, 2010
4:03 pm
Us older folks know what seepage is – and it’s got nothing to do with oil
Fortunately, I’m not that old. Anyway, here’s the seepage stuff again.
Balance Our Budget
May 21st, 2010
4:04 pm
Im guessing the BP bashing libs on here drive a vehicle.So if if we shut these big bad oil companies down what are you planning on powering your suv with.Of course they don’t think that far.If you drive you are part of the reason we have big oil companies.So hush your fussing and go invent a car that runs on water.
md
May 21st, 2010
4:07 pm
“We should have drilled in Anwar!”
Could of at least had a convoy of tankers there sucking it all up. No, let’s screw up the oceans instead.
Jeff Fryer
May 21st, 2010
4:18 pm
It is as unfair to depict BP in effigy as a heartless, tin pirate with an oil can on it’s shoulder parroting, “Drill, baby, Drill” as it is to depict Obama as a voodoo witchdoctor.
Rand is as good as the Tea Party can do right now. He’ll get better at Q+A as he campaigns and he’ll soon be fooling all the people all the time the same way Sarah Palin, Paris Hilton, and every guest who’s ever appeared on Jerry Springer does.
Scout
May 21st, 2010
4:19 pm
Doggone/GA:
“What hypocrisy?”
“They are at liberty to run on any platform they think will get them elected.”
Sure they are but to do so knowing they will then vote another way is lying to their constituents and the “hypocrisy is stunning.”
Jon but not Jon Voight
May 21st, 2010
4:19 pm
If U.S. domestic oil drilling is supposed to have such a positive downward effect on gas prices – why haven’t prices skyrocketed as result of all the oil going to waste? Just askin…
Scout
May 21st, 2010
4:20 pm
P.S. to Doggone/GA:
But then I don’t expect you to see or understand that because that’s just the way liberals are.
Scout
May 21st, 2010
4:22 pm
BMDPD:
Because she is a lib. and can’t take a dose of her own medicine ………………
MarquisMarc
May 21st, 2010
4:56 pm
As usual…BITCH, BITCH, BITCH! Man, you people! The bottom line is that there’s a terrible problem that needs a resolution ASAP. So if you don’t have anything positive to stay, SHUT UP! I feel sorry for the wildlife and the environment. This is our world, which we were given dominion over and it’s inhabitants. And are we doing a good job? I don’t think so.
take a leak
May 21st, 2010
4:58 pm
I can stop the leak. Take a pipe 1/2 inch less in diameter than the broken pipe. Insert it 20-30 feet into the pipe. The pressure will not stop it because the smaller pipe is still open. After insertion start pumping at the end of the smaller pipe. There will be some leakage between the 2 pipes, but it will be small compared to what it is now.
atlin83
May 21st, 2010
4:59 pm
Thank god all you “pro-business-at-all-costs” conservatives know how to run a multi-billion dollar oil conglomerate. I’m sure it’s just as easy as you think, and make it sound.
take a leak
May 21st, 2010
5:08 pm
Another idea. Fire will burn under water provided there is oxygen and fuel. There is natural gas coming out with the oil. Pump oxygen down to the leaking pipe and burn everything at the source. Can anyone pass these ideas on to the authorities?
KAO
May 21st, 2010
5:11 pm
Maybe a few extra large pampers with that super absorbent lining could mop up most of it? Just sayin’.
KAO
May 21st, 2010
5:14 pm
Actually, the folks who run BP are really lucky they don’t live in China. Remember the tainted milk scandal a couple of years ago? The Chinese government ensured the owner of the milk company and his wife along with the manager of the tainted milk plant all helped “clean it up” with some well placed rounds to the back of their heads from an Chinese version of an M-16. Voila! Been no more milk scandals!
DannyX
May 21st, 2010
6:10 pm
Now that corporations are people BP is pretty much the person I admire the most in the world.
1. Jesus
2. BP
3. Halliburton
4. SEC football, because they’re now people too.
5. Junior
Ok so I like BP 2nd most. You really have to admire what BP is doing. He is really doing good through this whole made up crisis. It restores my faith in people. Are we ready as a nation for a BP president? (Lets not get into that birth certificate thing.) No, because BP is from Canada. Otherwise yes.
not on my watch
May 21st, 2010
7:34 pm
Ran Paul: Ross Perot knew what he was talking about when he said, “The activist is not the man who says the river is dirty. The activist is the man who cleans up the river.”
Jack Conway: I watched Ross Perot on TV, and you, sir, are no Ross Perot!
not on my watch
May 21st, 2010
7:37 pm
Mail your sponges to:
28100 Torch Parkway
Warrenville, IL
60555-3938
United States
Kris G
May 21st, 2010
10:39 pm
Balance Our Budget… So either I should give up my car, or I should fight for the rights of a FOREIGN OIL COMPANY to FLOOD THE GULF I LIVE ON with enormous amounts of oil when they ASSURED ME AND MY COUNTRY IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN again? That’s a tea partier for you. If it doesn’t affect him directly, it’s just not his problem. You people are way more knee-jerk than any liberal group anywhere.
heartlandboy
May 22nd, 2010
1:59 pm
so when is Rand Paul gonna man-up and deliver his “mmm, I love me some rich pointy-headed british bureaucrats” speech to the gulf shrimpers face-to-face?
or will he pull another of his “I was against gov’t regulation before I was for it” flip-flops?
meet Rand Paul, clueless f*ckwit.