Oil slick isn’t the only thing that BP is spreading

Researchers from the Institute of Marine Mammal Sciences prepare to collect the carcass of a beached sea turtle at Pass Christian, Miss. (AP photo).

Researchers from the Institute of Marine Mammal Sciences prepare to collect the carcass of a beached sea turtle at Pass Christian, Miss. (AP photo).

With NOAA acknowledging that oil may have entered the Loop Current that will carry it south and east toward Florida and the number of sea-turtle beachings soaring, some 45,000 square miles of the Gulf have now been closed to fishing.

But don’t worry folks: BP has got this handled.

From the Mobile Press Register:

“In its 2009 exploration plan for the Deepwater Horizon well, BP PLC states that the company could handle a spill involving as much as 12.6 million gallons of oil per day, a number 60 times higher than its current estimate of the ongoing Gulf disaster.

In associated documents filed with the U.S. Minerals Management Service, the company says that it would be able to skim 17.6 million gallons of oil a day from the Gulf in the event of a spill.

As of Tuesday, BP reported recovering 6 million gallons of oily water since the ongoing spill began four weeks ago. BP spokesman Tom Mueller said that only about 10 percent of the skimmed liquid was oil, which would amount to about 600,000 gallons of oil collected thus far.

Mueller also said via e-mail Tuesday that “the spill has stayed about the same size or even shrunk on the water as a result of our response efforts.”

Skytruth.org, a website that monitors environmental problems using satellite imagery, reported Monday that the spill had grown to 10,170 square miles, based on NASA images. John Amos, head of Skytruth, told the Press-Register then that the spill had approximately doubled in size since Friday.

BP did not respond to questions about the NASA images.”

157 comments Add your comment

Scooter

May 19th, 2010
10:19 am

Scooter

May 19th, 2010
10:20 am

Scooter

May 19th, 2010
10:24 am

Looks like I had more faith in BP than I should have. :oops:

BP Executive

May 19th, 2010
10:31 am

Let me assure you that we are fully committed to our efforts in the Gulf and we will not stop until we are through. On this, you have my word.

joe matarotz

May 19th, 2010
10:37 am

An oil company lying. Imagine that.

BP Executive

May 19th, 2010
10:43 am

You can rest assured that the naturally occurring oil seepage you may currently be hearing about, although many thousands times greater than anything man-made, will not result in any more tar balls on beaches than you would expect to find following any comparably sized man-made leakage. However, we are prepared, as always, to assist in helping beachgoers select appropriate footwear as needed in order to ensure a pleasurable outing on our nation’s Katrina-damaged beaches. It’s just our way of returning all little to the community.

Southern Comfort

May 19th, 2010
10:45 am

:shock:

joe

I couldn’t have stated that any better

Scout

May 19th, 2010
10:52 am

BP = Better Petroleum

P.S.

Headline: “Losses cast doubts on Obama’s sway The president’s influence within his party is under scrutiny after the latest high-profile election results.”

Can we say “Jimmy” Obama now ??

David Anthony Kearns of Palm Bay Florida

May 19th, 2010
10:55 am

Let me a assure the voicebox from BP(is this satire because I can’t tell anymore?) I will be doing everything in my power to gain a groundswell of protest which will stop the use of all BP products in the state of Florida. I consider it my duty as a patriot of Florida. Let me assure this individual that duly noted is his condescending (we will assist you) attitude with regard to the ecological rape by out-sized means his corporation is perpetrating on the Gulf of Mexico. Let me further assure the voicebox that some of us in Florida are NOT amused at the outright lies spread by, and the smiles shared among, BP executives with regard to this situation during their press conferences. Let me assure the BP executive we duly note the absence of Tony Hayward in answering for his company on the Hill, and further note that he, like Roman Polanski, a child molester, is content, rather, to spend the time of this commotion in Europe, rather than face the music here.

Halley Burton and Sons, A Subsidiary of Koch Industries

May 19th, 2010
10:56 am

I have just received word from our top scientists that global warming will lead to a reduced viscosity of oil that has naturally seeped out and accumulated on beaches and in other places and it will in no time at all begin to more readily flow right back down into the ground from whence it naturally came. It’s just nature’s way of healing itself, naturally, and we should do our best to let it do what it does best and avoid any undue regulations that might ultimately impede nature.

Three Blind Mice

May 19th, 2010
11:02 am

I don’t see no oil leak. How ’bout you?
I don’t see no oil leak. How ’bout you?
I don’t see no oil leak. How ’bout you?

You see. We are all in agreement. There is no oil leak.

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:02 am

Headline: “Chef Tweets for State Dinner Censored by White House”

Good grief, “Jimmy” Obama is the most “non-transparent” president in our history.

Gator Joe

May 19th, 2010
11:06 am

Jay,
You may substitue the name of any petroleum producer for that of BP. Big business’s response, verbal and technical, is exactly what is to be expected, be it the Gulf of Mexico, Alaska, or Bophal, India. Most shocking is the response of those, especially residents of the immediately affected areas, who are comfortable with continued, or expanded, offshore drilling. Sadly, all of us will pay the price for this disaster, and the price will be far greater than having to wash tar off of our feet at the beach.

Peadawg

May 19th, 2010
11:07 am

That’s the most disturbing thing about all this…the pictures of dead animals on the beach. Poor animals.

Paul

May 19th, 2010
11:11 am

Yes, BP are slime in this.

And….

“In associated documents filed with the U.S. Minerals Management Service”

That’s the Obama Administration (taking my cue from prior years, when anything that happened with the Executive Branch was the Bush Administration). Part of the Interior. Yesterday, before Congress, Secretary Salazar pretty much said they’d blown it.

Y’know, if you run on a platform of Hope and Change, people hope things will really change. Did these new leaders go into the bureaucracy and say “where’s the latest risk analysis? Where’s the last independent inspection we had to see if we are following the law requirements, our policy requirements and our regulatory requirements? Where’s our list of outside audits and our progress in correcting the findings?”

My guess: they didn’t. Not at all. And if there’s one thing I’d like to see done to the prior administration that’s also done to the current administration it’s this: condemn them equally as harshly when they blow it and don’t let them off the hook.

godless heathen

May 19th, 2010
11:12 am

Saw a report on the TV that a dozen sea bird deaths had been attributed to the oil spill.

Oops

May 19th, 2010
11:16 am

The Republicans are so uncharacteristically quiet. What’s the problem. It’s only beaches on red states that will most likely be affected and y’all don’t mind, do ya. Cheer up. And those Gulf lobsters aren’t nearly as good as a Maine lobster… and… November is a long ways off. They’ll have forgotten about that little mess by then… and… it’s Obama’s fault anyway.

pat

May 19th, 2010
11:17 am

BP is NOT doing enough to contain this spill and solve this problem. They seem to be more interested in blaming and putting forth half-assed efforts to stop this mess. This spill should have been contained. I predict a rash of well deserved lawsuits coming BP’s way.
I am no tree hugger, but this is beyond rediculous. BP should have contained this by now.
Do not by BP gas.

md

May 19th, 2010
11:18 am

“President Felipe Calderon blasted U.S. immigration policies on Sunday and promised to fight harder to protect the rights of Mexicans in the U.S., saying “Mexico does not end at its borders.”

What would one expect when 20-30 billion dollars are shipped back to Mexico every year by those working here.

Politics is politics when it comes to money.

From the desk of Jay's altered Ego

May 19th, 2010
11:18 am

Scout,

You’re drifting off course… again.

pat

May 19th, 2010
11:19 am

You guys think republicans are for this spill? Really? You are pathetic and rediculous. I guess that is what is to be expected from very narrow minded leftists.

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
11:19 am

Paul,

I agree with you to some extent but it’s pretty obvious that the MMS blew this one — correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t there some kind of crazy sex scandal involving the folks at the MMS a while back?

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
11:21 am

Oh yes, here it is:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/washington/11royalty.html

Those MMS folks know how to party. They should get together with the porn addicts at the SEC.

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
11:23 am

pat,

“You guys think republicans are for this spill? Really?”

Um, no. Did anyone write that?

Paul

May 19th, 2010
11:28 am

Bosch

And that should have been a tipoff as to how lax things were. Obama Adminstration should have gone in and cleaned house, not played house.

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
11:30 am

Paul,

I agree. You know I was just kidding a while back with the whole snarky and doo-doo head thing, right?

md

May 19th, 2010
11:30 am

Maine lobster does taste mighty good – too bad nobody will be able to afford it after the Florida cousins quit going to market.

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
11:31 am

Scout,

Can you do us a favor and provide links so we don’t have to use the scroll so much past your garbage?

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:32 am

Bosch:

Do your won research.

RedState Warrior

May 19th, 2010
11:32 am

Obama Adminstration should have gone in and cleaned house, not played house.

I Object.

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:32 am

Excuse me: “own”

Jay

May 19th, 2010
11:32 am

Scout, we’ve got a standing rule that you get two off-topic posts per item. I haven’t had to invoke it much, but I just did with you.

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:36 am

No problem ………. I just hope you enforce it fairly.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

May 19th, 2010
11:38 am

Well, I see Bookman’s wasting our time bashing a good Christian oil co. like BP. When right in front of our eyes this Hank Johnson innerduced a bill in Congress to make it illegal for us to carry guns in the Atlanta airport. He done it out of spite. We spent alot of money and made alot of phone calls to get the people down at the statehouse to make it legal for us to carry our guns to church and restaurants and parks and airports and other places where a gunfight is liable to break out and we might could need to defend ourselfs. And now this Commie wants to get a federal law passed to overrule us. This guy don’t know that if we’re at the airport with our guns and a bunch of Terrists try something they’ll be as full of holes as Swiss cheese. It just goes to show that you never ought to elect one of Those People to Congress.

Anyhow, I’m tired of reading about this piddling little oil spill. Somebody makes a little mistake while trying to make a buck and everybody gets picky, picky, picky. All these carpers are probly the same ones that hate Sarah and love this Obama. What’s wrong with having a little oil in the water when you’re at the beach? A Mom can just tell the kids, “Those shoulders are going to get sunburned something awful. Get in the water and get some oil on them before you start looking like smoked bacon.”

Have a good lunch everybody.

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:39 am

“Natural oil seepage from the ocean floor accounts for far greater petroleum contamination than man-made sources in the United States”

“The chart [below] shows that natural oil seepage from the ocean floor accounts for far greater petroleum contamination than man-made sources in the United States. And the proportion of U.S. pollution to that of other nations is far less. There is no valid environmental reason NOT to drill for more oil.”

http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2008/07/oil-seepage-from-ocean-floor-accounts.html

Drill Baby Drill !

Paul

May 19th, 2010
11:40 am

Bosch 11:30

You lucky guy. 11:30 was my deadline for sending a V soldier to serve you up as an appetizer -

Keep up the good fight!

May 19th, 2010
11:40 am

Pat, drill baby drill…. now where was the * that said: But do so safely so that you dont harm the environment, plan for potential disasters and have emergency plans in place that are effective and don’t blow smoke up our arse and tell us that spills are a thing of the past”. Oh and let’s add: “When you are changing the rigs and you instruct the capping team not to take the more secure method of leaving in the drilling rig, and you risk the entire gulf…don’t worry, we’ll give you a cap on liability.”

No Pat…no one says the Republicans are in favor of the spill (although the tea party may love “texas tea”) but there is blame in not putting in place proper safeguards, regulations and preparing for a disaster, on not having a proper administrative agency providing oversight, etc. That problem was not helped by 8 years of lax regulation of the 2 oil men in charge and the cozy relationship…and yes, Obama should have cleaned house probably but did not know how bad this portion of the government agency was….

And we do blame Palinistas for mindless chants that ignore the real issues and others like the Senators from Alaska and Louisiana who want to “cap” liability because “mom and pop” oil companies want to drill without risk of being liable for clean up.

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:40 am

“Natural Oil and Gas Seepage in the Coastal Areas of California”

http://www.mms.gov/omm/pacific/enviro/seeps1.htm

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:42 am

“Natural Oil Seep Study”

“Oil seeps occur naturally all along the coast of California, notably in the Santa Barbara Channel near Coal Oil Point.”

http://www.mms.gov/omm/pacific/enviro/submarine-oil-seep-study/submarine-seeps.htm

AmVet

May 19th, 2010
11:43 am

Mr. Bookman, are you suggesting a) that there is more than 300 pints of oil being released every day into the Gulf of Mexico and b) that BP is somehow incapable of adequately dealing with this disaster, likely created by their own criminal negligence?

Forsooth. Are you a socialist?

Mobile, a HUGE Republican town. The conned there would vote for the CEO of BP right now for US Senate if he ran as an R.

LA dolts…

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:43 am

“Natural Oil ‘Spills’: Surprising Amount Seeps into the Sea”

http://www.livescience.com/environment/090520-natural-oil-seeps.html

I think you get the picture ………………..

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:48 am

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
11:48 am

Paul,

:-) I’ll be nice from now own. Promise. At least to you.

Doggone/GA

May 19th, 2010
11:49 am

“I think you get the picture”

Yep we get it. BP can pack up and go home. There’s nothing to worry about, or bother with. What’s a few million more extra barrels of oil floating around?

AmVet

May 19th, 2010
11:49 am

It would seem that the Corporal has concocted a bizarre theory that because there are natural calamities we should unload a bunch of devastating man made ones and say they’re all the same. And more telling, hold the people responsible completely blameless. (It’s all part of god’s plan doncha know?)

Drill, dumba__, drill…

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
11:50 am

Doggone/Paul,

I had a friend the other day tell me they were boycotting BP and I was like “NO!!” don’t do that yet! They need the cash to clean up this spill – then we can boycott them later when they fizz out on the job!

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:50 am

Paul

May 19th, 2010
11:51 am

Scout

““Natural Oil ‘Spills’: Surprising Amount Seeps into the Sea””

And people naturally emit carbon dioxide. But put them in an enclosed space and greatly increase the amount of CO2 and you’ve got a fatal situation.

Bosch

Wanna meet Anna? It’s the least I can do -

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:52 am

AmVet :

No ……… just perspective. Kind of like when a major, major volcano blows it puts more trash in the air than all the automobiles ever built.

md

May 19th, 2010
11:52 am

“and yes, Obama should have cleaned house probably but did not know how bad this portion of the government agency was…. ”

Bull dookie. MMS was scandal ridden prior to Barry, and you want us to believe he didn’t have a clue as to how bad it was?

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
11:53 am

Paul,

That chick is CREEPY, but please don’t tell her that. Oh and oil spill – I hope that keeps me from getting in trouble with Jay.

Doggone/GA

May 19th, 2010
11:53 am

“just perspective”

Yep…the wrong perspective

Jay

May 19th, 2010
11:55 am

It’s lame to try to compare natural oil seepage that is spread out over the entire continental shelf over the entire year to a major spill that is concentrated in one area and in a short amount of time.

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:56 am

Doggone/GA:

As we have gone over before …….. your “opinion” as well or your opinionated destortion of the facts.

How about the volcano thing?

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
11:56 am

md,

“and you want us to believe he didn’t have a clue as to how bad it was?”

Well, I think the POTUS’ brain would explode if he had to micromanage like that, but Salazar most definitely should have cleaned house.

Doggone/GA

May 19th, 2010
11:56 am

“How about the volcano thing?”

Still the wrong perspective

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:57 am

Jay:

Disagree …………. just as relevant as when a volcano blows.

Obviously, we must conintue to imporve safety but “drill bably drill” !

Scout

May 19th, 2010
11:58 am

Doggone/GA:

Thanks for your opinion.

Doggone/GA

May 19th, 2010
11:59 am

“but “drill bably drill” !”

But that is NOT the issue at this time. The issue is “clean up baby, clean up” or if you prefer, you made the claim that you were prepared and could handle…so now DO it.

Scout

May 19th, 2010
12:01 pm

Paul

May 19th, 2010
12:02 pm

Bosch

“Well, I think the POTUS’ brain would explode if he had to micromanage like that, but Salazar most definitely should have cleaned house.”

All it takes is a few minutes at staff meetings. Instead of the ‘everything is wonderful’ staged stuff, just dismiss the reporters and have an agenda item “okay, Secretary so and so, what are the top three problems in your agency?”

Then at the next meeting you do this thing called follow-up.

Basic management. People should get that experience before they get to the White House -

Scout

May 19th, 2010
12:03 pm

Sure ……… “clean it up” and “drill baby drill”. They should NOT be mutually exclusive. We can even use the oil that is being skimmed !

Scout

May 19th, 2010
12:03 pm

Jay:

How am I doing for staying on topic ?

AmVet

May 19th, 2010
12:06 pm

Scout, save the volcano nonsense for your bud, Rush Limberger. If you’ve never heard of him, he’s an eminently respected, vulcanologist and paleoclimatologist who posits that “theory” vis a vis AGW.

Yoiks…

md

May 19th, 2010
12:07 pm

“Well, I think the POTUS’ brain would explode if he had to micromanage like that, but Salazar most definitely should have cleaned house.”

Head of the snake concept – it is what it is. And a good ceo knows whats going on beneath him – if his appointees are competent.

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
12:10 pm

Paul,

Well, maybe Obama gave Salazar a good stiff talking to. And let’s be honest here, this wasn’t a problem until the damn thing exploded. And as far as MMS goes, other than the scandal back in ‘08 – what’s been done since? I don’t know, I feel certain that they did something to replace the ones there involved in the scandal, but I read an article the other day from the NYTimes – I posted it here, don’t know if you saw it – that said the relationship the MMS had with the oil companies was pretty much unchanged – the MMS was basically a buffer to keep oil companies from complying with environmental laws, etc. Lemme see if I can find it….

Finn mccool

May 19th, 2010
12:11 pm

And wingnuts will continue to clamor for more deregulation in everything.

AmVet

May 19th, 2010
12:11 pm

So NOW the conservative corporatist Republicans feign outrage over MMS working FOR the industries they are supposed to protect we the people from.

Though they are the “smaller government” minds who pushed for that very scenario in the first place.

Things that make you go hmmm….

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
12:11 pm

Whacks Eloquent

May 19th, 2010
12:13 pm

Oh this I love!
Arizona is threatening to cut off POWER to LA if they don’t reverse their boycott. Awesome!

Seriously, Arizona’s politics is none of LA’s business, period. Just as dumb as if Georgia boycotted Nevada because of prostitution, or something equally asinine…

Bud Wiser

May 19th, 2010
12:13 pm

Thankfully the Obozo administration was right on top of this one from the start…..what was it the old couch cow that used to be here said – wasn’t it “relax, Obama’s got this one covered?

Oh yeah, it was an afterthought 8 days after it began….at least the incompetent fool Bush was on the Katrina disaster in 2, so if you use this as a baseline for laziness, stupidity, and outright incompetence, then I guess this makes Obowo 4 times more the negative than Bush.

Dems are going down as elections and primaries come forward, and they are too stupid or arrogant to believe it is actually happening to them, probably both. They should carry flash cards in their wallets with a picture of Arlen Specter on it.

Fools, just plain stupid fools.

November 10 is coming to a voting district near you soon.

Rightwing Troll

May 19th, 2010
12:13 pm

“Can we say “Jimmy” Obama now ??”

More like George W Obama…

Rightwing Troll

May 19th, 2010
12:15 pm

W had a weeks notice or better to “get on” Katrina so add that to your 2 days and it’s a good 9 days of inaction on W’s part. 9 beats an 8 anyday on the final table…

Paul

May 19th, 2010
12:16 pm

Bosch

No need to post it again. As I see it, MMS was a known entity. Zeroing in on them should have been a no-brainer. As far as the oil blow-out, yes, that was the first in a while. BUT…. that’s where risk assessment comes in. Just asking ‘what’s the worst that could happen and what would we do about it. Do we have the plans in place? The equipment in place? Do all these exemptions we grant make it more likely?”

I also heard Interior had a plan from the 1990s (like those military contingency (’here’s what we do if this happens) plans) that said “in the event of a big rig blowout, here’s what we do and the equipment we’ll need.” Problem was, Obama Administration didn’t follow the plan. Nor did they have the equipment.

Didn’t have the equipment? That’s the kind of stuff you should know beforehand.

Rightwing Troll

May 19th, 2010
12:16 pm

Heckuvajobsally…

theyeshaveit

May 19th, 2010
12:17 pm

Scout, I am trying real hard to translate your train of thought (stream of oil consciousness?) on natural oil spills. So, let’s say that your gum are chronic bleeders. Then it is OK if I pop you upside your face and make your chops gush? I guess you’d just turn the other cheek, right?

md

May 19th, 2010
12:18 pm

“Though they are the “smaller government” minds who pushed for that very scenario in the first place.”

Until smaller gov’t is achieved, should what is there just sit around and do nothing?

Maybe they should do their job – what a novel idea.

I for one have no problem saying MMS screwed the pooch before Barry and evidently, during Barry.

You are funny AM, you bash all things corporate/gov’t, until it suits you. Hoe are those gov’t controlled scientists doing this morning?

Paul

May 19th, 2010
12:23 pm

Bosch

Remember during the Bush Administration, during all the Pentagon criticism and Bush was responsible, how I said the fed gov’t has this huge bureaucracy and the vast majority of the people are civilian lifers. They look at administrations as things that come and go. In many cases, they pretty much go their own way until they’re forced to change. Even if they get orders to change, if they don’t like the direction they’re masters at delay. “We’ll need a year to launch a study, formulate a plan, get coordination from the various entities, etc.” Then they look at the calendar and say “this bunch will be gone in two years. We’ll stall…”

They need to fire some people. Demote and reassign others. And all that talk about how impossible it is? I checked with a friend who’s a senior fed gov’t employee. Personnel-type matters. His response? “That’s a myth. It’s entirely doable. But, you have to get ready for a fight. You have to be a mean SOB and stop acting like a friend. You have to go by the book document everything AND treat everyone the same. If you do every-three month performance reviews, do it with everyone. If standards aren’t met, make sure everyone gets the same penalties. Do that, and they’ll be gone.”

RB from Gwinnett

May 19th, 2010
12:24 pm

You people do know those BP stations are not owned by BP, but by your neighbors who bought a franchise hoping to take care of their families don’t you? Sure, you’ll put a dent in BP’s wallet, but you’ll more likely bankrupt your neighbor first and put him and his employees in the unemployment line.

But what do you care. You hate business owners anyway. Damn capitalists.

BTW, That’s not a defense of BP. They need to get their act together, but putting 20 of your neighbors out of work won’t help them do that.

theyeshaveit

May 19th, 2010
12:24 pm

md, what is so inherently good about smaller government? Did the government of Mayor Palin’s Wasilla knock your shoes off?

Scout

May 19th, 2010
12:24 pm

theyeshaveit :

Ah, your liberal violance side is “seeping out” I see ……………..

AmVet:

Just because “you” say it’s nonsense doesn’t make it so.

Rightwingtroll:

George W. Obama …………. LOL !

md

May 19th, 2010
12:24 pm

“W had a weeks notice or better to “get on” Katrina ”

So did the ones that didn’t leave. That finger of blame is a fickle finger.

Scout

May 19th, 2010
12:25 pm

Excuse me: “violence” is seeping out.

Scout

May 19th, 2010
12:26 pm

Jay:

Hurry ……….. I need a new thread so I can post my two “off-topic” items.

There is some good stuff out there !!!

Normal

May 19th, 2010
12:26 pm

Bosch,
Good afternoon.

I wonder if BP has thought of cat litter. I have tons of it and I bet you do too… :)

HDB

May 19th, 2010
12:26 pm

md

May 19th, 2010
12:24 pm
“W had a weeks notice or better to “get on” Katrina ”

So did the ones that didn’t leave. That finger of blame is a fickle finger.

There were some that COULDN’T leave…do you blame them too??

Del

May 19th, 2010
12:26 pm

In addition to BP we need to also now give honorable mention to the Dept. of Interior. Evidently, they failed to follow regulatory procedure. It seems that government regulation didn’t work. Maybe Obama and company will create a new agency that regulates the regulators. Imagine the media outrage if this oil spill was on GWB’s watch.

md

May 19th, 2010
12:28 pm

“md, what is so inherently good about smaller government?”

For starters, less waste.

Ever bought wholesale and skipped the middleman saving yourself tons of money?

There are tons of middlemen in our bloated gov’t.

theyeshaveit

May 19th, 2010
12:30 pm

Paul, I suspect you are right about getting federal employees to budge from their routines. When I worked for a certain branch of the government, I recall that The Peter Principle (with its notion that “In a Hierarchy Every Employee Tends to Rise to His Level of Incompetence.”) came to bookstores across the nation. The buzz in our department was that Dr. Peter must have been talking about us. We used to say, “No one is going to get fired unless he is caught sleeping on top of his desk.”

Southern Comfort

May 19th, 2010
12:31 pm

Just as dumb as if Georgia boycotted Nevada because of prostitution, or something equally asinine…

Please don’t give the gubernatorial candidates any more fodder.

It amazes me how people in one instance wants government to be smaller and stay out of private enterprise. Then, when private enterprise craps all over the environment, it’s the government’s fault. You can’t have it both ways. BP owns this mess regardless to whatever scandal is going on at MMS. If they were truly concerned about things, they would have had a contingency plan in place. It seems like their plan was based on some episode of MacGyver or something.

They should have at least watched this episode:
http://www.macgyveronline.com/pages/e8.html

md

May 19th, 2010
12:31 pm

“There were some that COULDN’T leave…do you blame them too??”

Of course not, but the local gov’t also had the same amount of time – along with the State.

To focus on Bush is intellectually dishonest. To get that far in the chain, an awful lot of folks had to drop the ball. He eventually dropped it too, but to go from A-Z is wrong.

RB from Gwinnett

May 19th, 2010
12:33 pm

“There were some that COULDN’T leave…do you blame them too??”

You blame Bush for that, so what’s the difference?

If you look at Katrina and only have Bush to blame for the complete incompetence that surrounded that thing on the local and state level, you are an idiot.

theyeshaveit

May 19th, 2010
12:33 pm

Scout, I am not all that violent unless I am playing basketball against someone that I cannot stomach. It was just a question by way of allegory, to get at some debunking (or, if you will, confirmation) of your point of view.

Scout

May 19th, 2010
12:35 pm

theyeshaveit:

Hummmmm ……….. I think we saw your liberal intolerant dark side.

theyeshaveit

May 19th, 2010
12:36 pm

md, the middlemen are called lobbyists, and I am in favor of getting rid of them.

AmVet

May 19th, 2010
12:37 pm

Dick Cheney’s Wiper has spoken.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

“Until smaller gov’t is achieved, should what is there just sit around and do nothing?”

md, tragically you have it ALL wrong.

They are not just “sitting around and doing nothing”! Hayzoos, Josuff and Merry!

They are actively working against we the people. I have, and can again, list blow by blow by blow countless FACTS to show you what I say is so, but you’ll never open your eyes to the obvious because it ain’t “conservative” to do so.

The unindicted, but handsomely rewarded, co-conspirators in Washington simply run interference FOR the enthroned corporations who are now imperious and with near complete impunity.

What the hell have you been looking at for the past 30 years?

Do you contend that there has been no massive corporate crime wave in this country?

Do you not see that consumer protections, the people’s rights and sovereignty and economic justice are the enemy to these guys?

Do you think terms like oligarch and plutocracy are just hyperbole?

Ultimately the vanguards who have been trying to educate Americans for a decade or two, will be joined by more rank and file Americans inthis endeavor and the dwindling anti-working class American base will finally disappear.

Welcome to the United States of America. A wholly owned subsidiary of the New York Stock Exchange.

Disgusted

May 19th, 2010
12:37 pm

In addition to BP we need to also now give honorable mention to the Dept. of Interior. Evidently, they failed to follow regulatory procedure. It seems that government regulation didn’t work.

Well, you need to show some empathy. If you’re a government agency employee in bed with a person you’re supposed to regulate, it’s hard to do your job when you’re—ahem!—occupied.

@@

May 19th, 2010
12:38 pm

And The Minerals Management Service took them at their word?

Salazar, at least, admitted to mistakes within the bureaucracy. Of course, as is too often the case, with this administration, it was due to a few bad apples within. He’s shiny and new, that Salazar fella. Environmentalist organizations weren’t big on Salazar when Obama picked him. Did Obama listen?

HELL NO!

md

May 19th, 2010
12:38 pm

Once had a good friend that was commissioned to do a study on cost savings for a particular wing of gov’t. Spent over 6 months of taxpayer dollars finding many ways in which this agency could save. At the end of the study, the results were reviewed and glad handing all around. The study went into a draw never to be seen again. Inside sources indicated that not one of the cost saving measures were ever implemented.

Our tax dollars at work…………..

theyeshaveit

May 19th, 2010
12:40 pm

Scout, well I am no Dark Vapor, but I am dark enough to get stopped in Arizona.