After November, Washington will be different

Picking through the confetti after last night’s election parties around the country, we find ….

Politico dissing GOP ambitions:

All the evidence pointing to monster Republican House gains this fall—the Scott Brown upset win in Massachusetts, the scary polling numbers in once-safely Democratic districts, the ever-rising number of Democratic seats thought to be in jeopardy—was contradicted Tuesday.

In the only House race that really mattered to both parties—the special election to replace the late Democratic Rep. John Murtha in Pennsylvania’s 12th District—Republicans failed spectacularly, losing on a level playing field where, in this favorable environment, they should have run roughshod over the opposition.

Given the resources the GOP poured into the effort to capture the seat and the decisiveness of the defeat—as it turned out, it wasn’t really that close—the outcome casts serious doubt on the idea that the Democratic House majority is in jeopardy and offers comfort to a Democratic Party that is desperately in search of a glimmer of hope.

That’s a strongly worded thesis, but reporters Jonathan Martin and Charles Mahtesian back it up, noting for example that President Obama’s approval rating in that district is just 35 percent and that John McCain carried it in 2008. I know the area from my days in Pennsylvania, and it’s pretty conservative. It was indeed a missed opportunity for the GOP.

However, I’d be a little more cautious than the folks at Politico. I think that in general, it’s a mistake to overread results from a single district and extrapolate them nationwide.

On the other hand, the outcome of three Senate primaries from around the country offer a deeper data set for analysis, and all three confirm a broad dissatisfaction with politics as usual and the Washington establishment.

In Pennsylvania, longtime incumbent Arlen Specter was rejected by Democratic voters in favor of U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak, a former admiral and a more outspoken liberal than Specter.

“Elected five times to the Senate as a Republican,” the Washington Post notes, “Specter had the support of President Obama and the political leadership of his state, but he ran into rank-and-file resistance inside his new party and became the third member of Congress to lose his own party’s support in the past two weeks.”

“In fairness to Arlen,” Pa. Gov. Ed Rendell told the New York Times later, “if the economy was OK and there was no anti-incumbent wave, this wouldn’t have been a close election.”

Maybe so.

Doesn’t matter.

In Arkansas, Sen. Blanche Lincoln ran into similar sentiment and may soon be joining Specter on the sidelines. It was no surprise that Lt. Gov. Bill Halter was able to hold Lincoln under 50 percent in the Democratic primary and force her into a runoff. However, the tightness of the race was the surprise of the night in my book.

Lincoln drew 45 percent of the vote compared to Halter’s 42 percent, and those are bad numbers. In effect, 55 percent of Democratic voters in Arkansas rejected their party’s incumbent senator, and it’s hard for a candidate to overcome that. If the more liberal Halter does indeed go on to win the June 8 runoff, he would have a harder time holding an already at-risk seat in November for the Democrats. But clearly, primary voters aren’t in the mood for that kind of strategic calculation.

Nowhere was that message more clear than in Rand Paul’s resounding victory in Kentucky’s GOP Senate race. And in case it had escaped notice, Paul drove it home:

“I have a message, a message from the Tea Party, a message that is loud and clear and does not mince words,” he said in his victory speech. “We have come to take our government back.”

Paul’s victory raises the same questions for Republicans that Democrats may face in Arkansas. Paul’s deeply conservative views energized a rebellious party base, but how will they be viewed by a more mainstream electorate in November?

Even within his own party, Paul’s views are deeply divisive. In one poll, 43 percent of those who supported Paul’s GOP opponent, Ted Grayson, said they would not vote for Paul come November. And as Politico reports, Paul doesn’t seem to care:

“In his victory speech Tuesday night, Paul said nothing about Grayson and declined to extend an olive branch to his opponent’s supporters. Instead, he launched a fierce attack on President Barack Obama, accusing him of “apologizing” to dictators and moving the country toward socialism.”

November is going to be fascinating. Not to mention important.

287 comments Add your comment

Rightwing Troll

May 19th, 2010
7:10 am

Whacks Eloquent

May 19th, 2010
7:14 am

A nice mix of non-establishment GOP and non-establishment Democrats sounds like a welcome change to me.

T-Town

May 19th, 2010
7:15 am

Apparently, both parties are moving more to their fringe bases. Hold on to your drawers, November is going to be a wild ride.

Irrational

May 19th, 2010
7:21 am

Interesting and more to my way of thinking. Yes. I think November will be good for me.

AlienNation

May 19th, 2010
7:23 am

Mr. Perot, there’s another call for you.

kayaker 71

May 19th, 2010
7:24 am

It is apparent that there is immense unrest and dissatisfaction in the American electorate. The big question is why doesn’t Bozo and his gang of thieves doesn’t realize it and act accordingly? They continually ignore the will of the people so why would it be a revelation that they would lose elections? The big government, wild spending, tax everything crowd is on it’s way out and they are too stupid to realize it.

@@

May 19th, 2010
7:35 am

The only thing the Critz win indicates is that they’ve got an electorate who’s become all too dependent on government pork for their livelihood. ‘Tis a shame.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....

May 19th, 2010
7:36 am

“Filthy Mouth” Murtha insulted his entire district before the 2008 elections, calling them stump broke hillbillies, and they in turn voted for him by a 70% margin, yeah boy, a whole lotta Republicans over there, sure thing.

For once I agree with what the democrat said, you stump broke hillbillies.

Byron Mathison Kerr

May 19th, 2010
7:37 am

The electorate will eventually discover that changing the names and faces in Washington is not going to change the culture of Washington at all. In fact, I am surprised at the extreme mass naivete that suggests otherwise.

It’s not the personalities that sustain Washington’s modus operandi. It is the extremely high level of money, power, and influence coming from special interests and lobbyists in combination with the mind-blowing cost of running a modern, effective political campaign.

Doggone/GA

May 19th, 2010
7:38 am

“The big government, wild spending, tax everything crowd is on it’s way out and they are too stupid to realize it.”

More like: THIS big government, wild spending, tax everything crowd is on it’s way out and ABOUT TO BE REPLACED BY THE NEXT BIG GOVERNMENT, WILD SPENDING, TAX EVERYTHING crowd

Jeff Fryer

May 19th, 2010
7:43 am

If the Tea Party finds a charismatic leader……..are we in a sea change, a new era where the old parties are finally finished? Somebody google what happened to the whigs, the know nothings, and the copperheads. See if there’s a pattern match so we can get out ahead of this.

Scooter

May 19th, 2010
7:50 am

DITTO! Doggone

fred smith

May 19th, 2010
7:52 am

Guess we can tentatively be thankful we’re not Kentucky, supporting the “party” of bigotry and hate. Wouldn’t be very surprised to see another version of the McCarthy era rise here too, though.

mike

May 19th, 2010
7:53 am

What Jay and the rest of the wishful thinkers ignore is the fact that the Dem who won Murtha’s seat ran against ObamaCare, is pro-gun and anti-abortion. Regardless of the party label, he is a conservative and that is all I care about.

mike

May 19th, 2010
7:55 am

fred smith said, “baaa, baaa, baaa. I can’t think for myself so I regurgitate the most ignorant and hateful liberal boilerplate rhetoric. baaa baaa baaa.”

Whacks Eloquent

May 19th, 2010
7:56 am

Fryer @ 7:43

Seems to me that the “Know Nothings” are still alive and running both parties! LOL
Seriously, though, good point! Perhaps the rise of the Libertarians is on the horizon? Easily they are the largest third party.

AmVet

May 19th, 2010
7:57 am

Paul, is another quasi-Republinut in Libertarian clothing. But the tea floggers in Caintucky will see him as their next “small government” savior. His few really good ideas will NEVER see the light of day because the party machinery will NEVER allow them to surface. So, like his dad he’ll sit back and just be one of their stooges. Good luck with that Ayn Rand. If this guy has the balls to stand up to the screwed up machine that has turned the GOP into a laughingstock, I’ll be amazed.

Sestak is just the latest in a long line of highly decorated military men in the Democratic Party. In other words, he is the antithesis of the current Republican Party membership, who almost to a man, “had priorities other than military service.” Friggin’ inept, cowardly, deadly chickenhawks.

Hopefully there is enough time between now and November for the conned to find some more Swift Boaters…

Black Sheep

May 19th, 2010
7:59 am

fred smith said, “baaa, baaa, baaa. I can’t think for myself so I regurgitate the most ignorant and hateful liberal boilerplate rhetoric. baaa baaa baaa.”

mike said that fred said what mike said when in fact it was mike that said what mike said that fred said.

Byron Mathison Kerr

May 19th, 2010
8:01 am

It appears to me the Tea Party is all about venting frustration without any real organization that could provide cohesive, alternative policy proposals. And corporate media hacks are profiting big time by constantly feeding the frustration.

Times are hard. Patience and faith are scarce. And people expect an impossible level of change within an impossibly short timeframe.

Vote for Me

May 19th, 2010
8:06 am

My tax cut is bigger than your tax cut.

Finn mccool

May 19th, 2010
8:07 am

Republicans, LOL.

So sad. perhaps they should get a clue first? Ya think?

Disgusted

May 19th, 2010
8:07 am

The only message from yesterday’s elections is that we are due for a period of no change—a stalemate. Yes, voters are deeply dissatisfied with the status quo, but they’re expressing anger, not commitment. People like Rand Paul will sit on the sidelines and bark, but they’ll have no influence in Congress. Neither party will have enough influence to effect any change. Sooner or later unemployment will decline, but the people making the decisions in Washington will continue to be the heads of corporations. So be prepared to sit back and watch the circus. If, after all this economic turmoil, shafted voters are still not bright enough to be outraged by this stalling on reining in the abuses of Wall Street and the big banks, what hope is there for anything else?

JohnnyReb

May 19th, 2010
8:09 am

As a Tea Party believer and Republican National Committee (RNC) member, yesterday’s results is joy. However, the Tea Party alone cannot win in November, they simply do not have the structure in place to defeat the Democratic machine. Therefore the Tea Party must work with the RNC. The issue is, those in control of the RNC still believe in the “big tent,” which is contrary to the Tea Party and its supporters. McCain and the RNC lost to Obama because of the big tent theory. There will be Democratic defeats, but the landslide we seek and taking back the White House will only occur when the RNC drops the big tent theory and embraces their roots. If the RNC fails to do so, the base will be fractured in November.

What's my Line

May 19th, 2010
8:10 am

I object! I am relevent.

Scooter

May 19th, 2010
8:10 am

Good morn AmVet! After you mentioned neocons again the other day,I googled it to see exactly what you were refering too and now I know. I’m not sure but I think we can add them to endangered spieces list also. ???????

Finn mccool

May 19th, 2010
8:11 am

Well said, amvet

Doggone/GA

May 19th, 2010
8:12 am

“the Tea Party must work with the RNC”

And all THAT means is they can’t defeat the Republicans either.

PartyTents, Inc.

May 19th, 2010
8:13 am

Think of it as right-sizing, not down-sizing.

Bud Wiser

May 19th, 2010
8:13 am

AmWet said…”a long line of highly decorated military men in the Democratic Party…

I’m sure he was referring to Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, with his lies about his service in Vietnam, and has implied that he served overseas when in fact he received five deferments and never fought there.

Go back to your Playstattion and play war some more, little boy, a has been that never did and never will.

mike

May 19th, 2010
8:16 am

Here is the platform of the fellow who won Murtha’s seat. Sounds pretty conservative to me:

PROTECTING THE 2ND AMENDMENT

Growing up in Western Pennsylvania, Mark understands that the basic rights guaranteed under the 2nd Amendment should not be infringed upon with unnecessary restrictions. Mark believes that sportsmen, hunters, and citizens concerned for their personal safety are guaranteed the right to keep and bear arms. In Congress, Mark will oppose any effort to weaken this right guaranteed to us in the Constitution.

PROTECTING LIFE

Mark is pro-life and opposes taxpayer funding of abortion. In Congress, Mark will fight for policies that stand up for the sanctity of life.

REDUCING THE DEFICIT

Mark knows that families have to live within their means, and he thinks it’s time that Congress starts doing the same. That’s why he is committed to reducing the deficit and thinks Congress should start by tightening its own belt. Mark will fight to constrain government spending by working to eliminate wasteful programs, and as a first step, Mark supports reducing the salaries and office budgets for members of Congress by 5 percent next year.

http://www.critzforcongress.com/page/protecting-western-pennsylvania-values

Doggone/GA

May 19th, 2010
8:16 am

“I’m sure he was referring to Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal”

Actually, no he wasn’t. Try to keep up.

AmVet

May 19th, 2010
8:18 am

Morning Dick Cheney’s wiper! How are those little green army men of yours this morning, big boy? Taking the kids down to an AFEES station this week?

“…drops the big tent theory and embraces their roots.”

Secessionist, are those the Trickle Down Your Thighs/Newt the Flamer/BushCorp roots?

Too funny and good luck with that crap. That’s EXACTLY what got you neo-cons destroyed in record fashion in the last two elections. Can you say losing 93% of all the races, including 36 out of 36 in 06?

And as much as you desperately wish, I don’t see the American electorate ready to just merrily go along with their heads up their _____ and put a bunch of fake conservative f___ups back in control.

ESPECIALLY after the disaster called the George W. Bush administration…

PartyTents, Inc.

May 19th, 2010
8:21 am

We make tents for all sizes and shapes of parties. We even have a special tent designed to hold Sarah, Newt, the Tea Party leader du jour, Dale Robertson, and their faithful flock. It has extra thick padded walls.

Rev. Al Sharptongue

May 19th, 2010
8:23 am

Therefore the Tea Party must work with the RNC. The issue is, those in control of the RNC still believe in the “big tent,” which is contrary to the Tea Party and its supporters. McCain and the RNC lost to Obama because of the big tent theory. There will be Democratic defeats, but the landslide we seek and taking back the White House will only occur when the RNC drops the big tent theory and embraces their roots. If the RNC fails to do so, the base will be fractured in November.

So you think a smaller tent I.E. less voters is somehow a good strategy?

A party full of far right older white men is the way to go?
No minorities,gays,non-Christians,or moderates allowed.

Scott

May 19th, 2010
8:23 am

Finn mccool

Democrats, LOL.

So sad. perhaps they should get a clue first? Ya think?

The only Democrat “victory” last night was a guy who ran against Obama, Obamacare, Cap & Trade, and Pelosi. If you had a clue, you would realize that the only way to win is to run against your own party. So sad, but true. Ya think?

Atlantan

May 19th, 2010
8:24 am

You and your fellow dems can try to console yourself with Murtha’s district, but for the sake of journalism have a little integrity.

Change is coming!

Proud American

May 19th, 2010
8:24 am

Clean both houses, just sweep the crap out. We want representation, Washington’s out of touch, lets send a message for all to hear. No more lieing,cheating, stealing, adulterating, power hoarding,egotistical maniacs.

Soothsayer

May 19th, 2010
8:25 am

Scott

May 19th, 2010
8:28 am

Amvet, keep holding on to the 2006 race. 20 years from now you will still be talking about it. The fact is, and you choose to ignore it, is that the democrats are on course to lose their majority in November. Who cares about 2006? Anyway, the people that were voted out in 2006 aren’t in office right now, so what’s your point?

Southern Comfort

May 19th, 2010
8:28 am

The only thing yesterday showed is that both parties are moving further from the center. The moderates/centrists should disown both parties and form a third centrist party. Both fringes are batshiite loony and need to be marginalized as much as possible. The fringes are the reason we’re in the crapper now.

Doggone/GA

May 19th, 2010
8:31 am

“The fringes are the reason we’re in the crapper now.”

I wouldn’t argue that, but I can’t see the moderates joining together – regardless of party – just yet. Not to form a new party anyway. I think there’s a better chance that the moderates will begin voting like moderates and start bucking their party leaderships first.

J. Kase

May 19th, 2010
8:33 am

The morning gauntlet has been thrown, both sides appear to be looking for a weakness jabbing to the head. No good punches have been thrown and there’s the bell and round one is over. Appears to be an even round.

Scott

May 19th, 2010
8:33 am

Doggone/GA, If Moderates begin voting like Moderates, then they will not vote the way they did in the last election. It’s a lesson they learned the hard way.

Scooter

May 19th, 2010
8:33 am

Southern Comfort

May 19th, 2010
8:28 am

I agree completely! Not trying to make a funny on this one.

Doggone/GA

May 19th, 2010
8:35 am

“Doggone/GA, If Moderates begin voting like Moderates, then they will not vote the way they did in the last election”

sorry, I wasn’t talking about voters…I was talking about politicians…didn’t make that clear enough.

AmVet

May 19th, 2010
8:36 am

Scott, re 2006, I know ANCIENT history! Just like GWB’s Reign of Error.

Understand this clearly, the more you try to run and hide from that deadly legacy of fake conservative incompetence, the more people like me are not gonna let ya. Sorry…besides, going ZERO for 36 is rather special, doncha think?

And I’ll try not to laugh hysterically when the cons suffer from the whiplash in November.

Oil leak? What oil leak? I don’t see no oil leak! Do you?

(Just doing my welcher imitation…)

Our strategery?

Move even further to the fringe!

That’ll show them centrists, independents, greens, moderates, real conservatives, Democrats and all the other non-Republicans!

The HUGE problem of course is that for every GOP loss, it almost always means a GOP-lite win.

Dave

May 19th, 2010
8:39 am

The disaster called the Obama Bin Laden administration has done everything it could to commit political suicide. It seems he just goes along smiling while ignoring the polls and the unrest of the American people. The RNC really doesn’t have to do a darn thing except let this man, pelosi and Reid continue to spew hatred and rhetoric about anyone and anything that has a different idea. And the Left calls the Republicans hate filled? Come November, the Liberal political machine will blow a tire and the transmission will drop out and hit the road. There is no fate except that which we make for ourselves. And the Dems have made their bed and their constituants know this. Rant and rave all you want. The wall is unavoidable.

JohnnyReb

May 19th, 2010
8:43 am

Abandoning the big tent simply means the Republicans can’t please everyone. McCain tried and lost. It does not mean going to the right fringe either. It does mean a realization by the RNC that those undecided considered left of center may not vote Republican. However, by returning to core principles the base will be united and those undecided in the middle will vote Republican. It also means a complete rejection of basically everything Obama has done and intends.

CRB

May 19th, 2010
8:44 am

Jay, Critz won in a district gerrymandered to keep Murtha in power for decades. Don’t read too much into his success.

Scott

May 19th, 2010
8:44 am

AmVet, you remind me of the crazy uncle who lives in the past, bringing up his winning highschool touchdown every year at the family reunion.

If you think GWB had a “reign of error” then BHO is well on his way to have a “reign of destruction”. Look at what he is doing to our ecomomy. I know you will want to again live in the past and talk about the Bush spending, but the fact is this administration is outspending Bush and he’s only been in office for less than 2 years. Double-standards are what people like you live by.

The only whiplash will be yours when the Democrats lose their majority. It should be a familiar sensation, since you are still recovering from the whiplash you sufferred when a Republican won Ted Kennedy’s seat in one of the most liberal states in the country. All this should tell you something. You are either too blind to see it, or just living in the past reliving the 2006 victory.

Scout

May 19th, 2010
8:45 am

The “Backlash” is coming …………….. no…………. the “Backlash” has begun !

CRB

May 19th, 2010
8:45 am

Also…Critz ran a campaign that distanced himself from Obama and the liberal Democrats in Washington. He wasn’t running on support of Obamacare and bail outs.

Dusty

May 19th, 2010
8:45 am

The Braves are more fun than this crowd.

Slades Limited

May 19th, 2010
8:45 am

Welcher imitations should go something like, “I’ll bet you that the oil leak in the gulf isn’t really a leak at all but is hyped up seepage – AmSpec/Urinal, a corroborative effort.”

Scooter

May 19th, 2010
8:46 am

The HUGE problem of course is that for every GOP loss, it almost always means a GOP-lite win.

That’s a lot of food for thought AmVet. Let me think about this one for a bit and I’ll get back to ya! Thanks

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!

May 19th, 2010
8:47 am

Where’s your outrage on this freedom of speech denial?

Two fans at a Phoenix Suns basketball game were ejected from their first row seats and removed from the arena last week after refusing orders from security guards to take off their shirts in support of Arizona’s recently passed law against illegal immigration.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/05/17/fans-asked-to-remove-pro-arizona-immigration-law-shirts-during-nba-game/#ixzz0oNYDLdPJ

AmVet

May 19th, 2010
8:47 am

I find it ironic, sad and yet humorous how the Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum Parties have basically switched places.

For many years, no matter how obviously dangerous and inept the screwed up GOP was, the Dems would trot out some lameass candidates.

And LOSE.

It’s as if the earth’s poles have switched magnetically now.

Too funny.

Gotta go, see everyone later.

Gingrich/Palin 2012!

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
8:47 am

I heard a few of the candidates this morning who wear tea bags as accessories, and they gave the tired old line of “We’ve got to reduce government spending and get our government under control” – okay, that’s great. So now can they please explain to me HOW – what are they going to cut? What are they doing away with?

Kinks-R-Us

May 19th, 2010
8:49 am

The dreaded backlash… for those that find butt kicks to be strangely satisfying but insufficient.

Scott

May 19th, 2010
8:49 am

I do believe AmVet may be bi-polar.

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
8:50 am

Reb,

Curious – why can’t those of the Earl Grey persuasion work with the Democrats? Is it an ideological difference – because you can’t really honestly say anymore that either party is fiscally responsible or wants small government.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

May 19th, 2010
8:50 am

The Braves are more fun than this crowd.

You danged tootin’, Sister Dusty. What was the score last night? Three points for the Braves and two points for the Mets?

Foreigner!

Have a good day everybody.

Paul

May 19th, 2010
8:50 am

You must be in heaven, Jay. Such a rich landscape ahead -

“In fairness to Arlen,” Pa. Gov. Ed Rendell told the New York Times later, “if the economy was OK and there was no anti-incumbent wave, this wouldn’t have been a close election.”

One of the ‘duh’ statements of the night. Strikes me like saying “If the driver hadn’t been drunk and going 80mph he wouldn’t have crashed.”

“It was no surprise that Lt. Gov. Bill Halter was able to hold Lincoln under 50 percent in the Democratic primary and force her into a runoff. However, the tightness of the race was the surprise of the night in my book. ”

Isn’t Halter the guy MoveOn not only backed, but funneled millions to? That group sure doesn’t get a lot of bang for its buck.

What I’m wondering is, which party and which leaders will adapt to this change, rather than issuing dismissive comments about the electorate and backing status quo candidates?

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
8:51 am

Scooter

May 19th, 2010
8:52 am

Oops AmVet. I misread. Thought you were talking to me. Sorry, but what you said is still food for thought.(for me anyway)

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
8:52 am

Morning Paul! How was V?

AmVet

May 19th, 2010
8:52 am

Scott, your either/or mentality is your hang up.

You are the one into GOP = Great! Dems = Terrible, Not me.

Hint, I VOTED AGAINST BARRY! And said before he was even elected that he would be a complete train wreck. I told my liberal friends, prepare to be disappointed. He’s another fraud.

He is just another pro-war, pro-crime, pro-corporation, anti-worker quasi-Republican.

He kept your boys fascistic suspension of habeus corpus in place. He kept in place your boys using corporations to spy on Americans without warrants. He surged into Afghanistan.

I’m surprised you far right wingers don’t love him!

Later, gators!

J. Kase

May 19th, 2010
8:52 am

The left wades in under AmVet throwing roundhouse hooks, but many appear to be old and tired. The right under Dave bobs and weaves, but seems to punching the air. Righty Scott throws one to the mid-section and righty Scout follows with a jab to the chest. In the audience Dusty appears to be bored. Lefty AmVet/Bosch connect with a couple of jabs to the head. There’s be bell and round two is over.

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
8:53 am

“The disaster called the Obama Bin Laden administration”

Oh my freaking God.

Union

May 19th, 2010
8:53 am

are the liberals that were/are running, really liberals anymore? Seems that several of the election campaigns were run on an anti-obama message and most democrats didn’t want obama anywhere near their states or campaigns. for a man that has accomplished so much (just ask him) you would think his OWN party would be tripping at their feet trying to get him to come politic for them.

JohnnyReb

May 19th, 2010
8:54 am

Good morning Bosch, how’s the puppies?

No easy answer on cutting spending, but it has to include entitlement programs. That would include repealing or at least revising the healthcare bills, government worker salaries and pensions, etc.

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
8:54 am

“He kept your boys fascistic suspension of habeus corpus in place. He kept in place your boys using corporations to spy on Americans without warrants. He surged into Afghanistan.

I’m surprised you far right wingers don’t love him!”

You know AmVet – I’ve asked myself the same thing. :-)

Paul

May 19th, 2010
8:56 am

Bosch 8:47

That’s the million dollar question. Hopefully as we get closer to November we’ll get some thoughtful answers to go along with the slogans.

SoCom

While I agree the fringes are nutty, I do think there’s a generalized dissatisfaction among the middle with levels of debt, the potential for huge tax increases to cover the debt, and more than a little ‘fed-upness’ with the legalized bribery going on.

Scooter

May 19th, 2010
8:56 am

Dang, y’all make it hard to keep! Need more coffee and maybe a shrink too. :???:

md

May 19th, 2010
8:58 am

“I think there’s a better chance that the moderates will begin voting like moderates and start bucking their party leaderships first.”

If the last 2 years is any indication, then I certainly doubt it. The “machine” must of had a lot of dirt on the blue dogs for them to sell their souls.

Paul

May 19th, 2010
8:58 am

Bosch 8:49

A good season-ender. Accelerated the story line. Want specifics?

AmVet & Bosch

“I’m surprised you far right wingers don’t love him!”

and that more left-wingers don’t. Ah, the power of image.

Paul

May 19th, 2010
8:59 am

Scooter

Forget the shrink. It’ll make more sense if you do.

stands for decibels

May 19th, 2010
8:59 am

However, I’d be a little more cautious than the folks at Politico. I think that in general, it’s a mistake to overread results from a single district and extrapolate them nationwide.

Quite true.

That said, anyone here doubt for a nanosecond that had the results been reversed, that GOPers would be screaming “Bellwether! U DEMONCRAPZ IZ DOOMED!!” from all of the Internets?

I sure don’t.

Scooter

May 19th, 2010
9:01 am

O- tay Paul. Thanks for the advise! :smile:

Paul

May 19th, 2010
9:02 am

sfd

Lehrer’s birthday is today. 76. I hope he keeps working.

RW-(the original)

May 19th, 2010
9:02 am

So yesterday Blumenthal holds a press conference to say he really, really didn’t ever, never, ever want to mislead people in any way into thinking he had served in Vietnam. So why do you suppose he held the presser at the VFW hall? That in itself started rumors yesterday that he had somehow managed to join the VFW under false pretenses.

Gotta love what Jimmy Fallon said last night thought. He said he heard that Blumenthal claimed he hadn’t gotten this much attention since he became the first man to walk on the moon.

Whacks Eloquent

May 19th, 2010
9:04 am

db,

You mean like NY 23rd last year? Dems do it too.
Besides, it’s not like Critz was running as the next apprentice to Obi-Wan Pelosi…

Bosch

May 19th, 2010
9:06 am

Morning Reb – the puppies are all well and getting fat. And noisy. Puppies are really noisy – it’s like having another kid who keeps you awake at night – I think that’s why the baby versions of all creatures are designed to be cute – so you won’t throw them out the window when they keep you awake.

Anywho – I digress. Entitlements certainly – that’s fine, but that seems to be the only thing those on the right have issue with. And good luck with getting elected on the “I’m gonna slash Social Security and Medicare” platform. Because really those are the two big ones that cost the most. The ones for the poor – sure we can slash those too – but when you do, we are going to have to stomach the unintended consequences of doing so — and I don’t think many people are quite ready to see more homeless people and crime go through the roof (which of course, we will have more people in jail in which they will receive free food, healthcare and housing).

Government workers? Cutting their salary? I don’t know why folks on the right think that government workers live on easy street. But okay, let’s say we cut their salaries and jobs. Again, good luck with that. Less teachers, less police, less firemen, etc. I know that many on the right are of the opinion that everything should be privatized, but in doing so, you set up systems where there will be people who are not served – those who can not afford it, and believe it or not – those people do not include just the welfare queens, but a good portion of the working population whose salaries have not kept up with the cost of things.

So, just my 2 cents.

Kamchak

May 19th, 2010
9:07 am

THE BACKLASH AGAINST THE BACKLASH IS HERE!

Huac

May 19th, 2010
9:08 am

Sorry I haven’t read everyone’s comments so this might have been mentioned. If it has, it’s certainly worth mentioning again. The winner of PA 12 was anti-abortion, pro-gun, and anti-health care. In other words, he ran as a conservative. So should it be that surprising he won, even if he is a Democrat?

Gale

May 19th, 2010
9:09 am

My opinion why moderates will not see a viable candidate: The politicians pander to the fringes who readily open their checkbooks based on rah-rah. The moderates want to hold onto their checkbooks until their hear the specific plans from the candidate, for which they would then demand accountability.

RW-(the original)

May 19th, 2010
9:09 am

PA 12, the Democrat runs against the Obama agenda and wins. PA Senate, Specter ties himself to Obama and goes home. Arkansas Senate, Obama comes out for Blanche Lincoln and drops her into a runoff. After Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts I think we can see the obvious pattern here.

md

May 19th, 2010
9:10 am

Yep, those folks making 88k sure are poor and on the doorstep of homelessness.

J. Kase

May 19th, 2010
9:11 am

Righty Union/JonnyReb connect to open round 3 and Lefty Bosch replies with a straight right hand to the head. Paul/md tries to add a little sanity, but neither side notices. Lefty SFD uses a couple of open hand slaps to the body and righty Whacks counters with a stiff right hook. Lefty Bosch wades in to give his 2 cents. There’s the bell round 3 is over and it appears we have an even fight so far.

Dusty

May 19th, 2010
9:11 am

OH, my reputation is RUINED!! RedNeck agrees with me! I’m sunk!!

Bosch,

Will you stop being irreverant! I know you are Episcopalian but even they have standards. Hmphhhh!!! Irrevelant is OK. That’s common here. Irreverant is not!!

joan

May 19th, 2010
9:11 am

Why try to change the culture in Washington? it can’t be done. But, with new technology there is no reason why our representatives and senators need to fly back and forth on taxpayer dollars to posture, preen and be fawned over by lobbyists. Make them live full time in their districts and states, and meet once a year—as our founders envisioned in the first place. They would be closer to their constituency, and not so vulnerable to lobbyists.

RW-(the original)

May 19th, 2010
9:12 am

I think that’s why the baby versions of all creatures are designed to be cute

Bosch,

That sounds like intelligent design. Be sure to keep a close eye on your left side today.

Producer

May 19th, 2010
9:13 am

Go ahead and whistle past the graveyard all you want, Libs! In the races that “mattered” your socialist brothers were crushed mightily!!! Newt is right. Both houses will go for the Repubs this Fall. Thanks, Barry!!! LMAO!

Dusty

May 19th, 2010
9:13 am

Ohhh I’ve just been moderated AGAIN. Which word is BAD? Bosch or Episcopalian???

JB

May 19th, 2010
9:13 am

Obama ask Rahm this morning what happened last night…..and he said ” I think change is coming”. I vote republican and I doubt i will vote for any incumbent. We need term limits. These guys/gals who have been in Washington for 20+ year HAVE NO CLUE what makes this country work. Damn the politics, American families need jobs and they need to be safe. I just don’t understand where this cradle to grave entitlement mess came from. Yes, take care of the needy and helpless, but the Hell with paying able body folks to sit at home and Bitch about what hard working successful people have and they don’t. GO TO WORK !

joan

May 19th, 2010
9:14 am

Bosch, government workers now make 25% more on average, than those in private industry–and the former get substantially better pensions and healthcare benefits. Look it up on the web–Bureau of labor statistics 2008 (and it is probably worse now, but there aren’t figures posted more recently).

Gale

May 19th, 2010
9:14 am

Joan 9:11 For once I agree with you. Lawmakers need to cut back on all that taxpayer funded travel.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

May 19th, 2010
9:14 am

Make them live full time in their districts and states, and meet once a year—as our founders envisioned in the first place. They would be closer to their constituency, and not so vulnerable to lobbyists.

Well, I’m not so sure I want them living back here. We got our women’s virtue to protect.

Scott

May 19th, 2010
9:15 am

J. Kase – funny post!

You called me Righty Scott, but I have only state what is real. Nothing wrong with being “right” though!

Gale

May 19th, 2010
9:16 am

Very good, Redneck. It’s clear you are awake this morning.