When Jessica Colotl’s gone, 10.799999 million still to go

In time, we will probably ship Jessica Colotl back to Mexico, the country that she left at age 10 to enter the United States with her parents. They came illegally, and she has no legal right to remain here.

But as we go through that process, it’s important to at least acknowledge that we won’t be accomplishing much except the gratification of certain politicians and the ruin of a promising American life.

Because Jessica is not alone.

According to an estimate by the Department of Homeland Security, 10.8 million illegal immigrants lived in the United States as of January 2009. The DHS estimates that 63 percent of those entered before 2000, just as Jessica and her family did, meaning that they have been here a decade or longer.

If those numbers are correct, 6.8 million of those here illegally have lived in the United States for more than a decade. They clearly have no intention of returning home on their own. No matter how tough we make it for them, they have concluded it will be better for them here than back home.

So what do we do about them? Mass deportation? Great. Once we rid our country of Jessica, the law-breaking sorority sister and straight-A student, we’ll only have 10.799999 million more to ferret out and remove. So that “solution,” while politically appealing to many, is going to take awhile.

Then there’s the fact that, in effect, we invited them here.

That assertion makes a lot of people angry, but it’s true. Laws against undocumented immigration and hiring illegal immigrants have remained on the books, but for years we suspended enforcement of those laws so we could benefit from the cheap labor that illegal immigration produced.

That was not an accident; it was a conscious decision. In fact, an important turning point occurred 12 years ago this week, right here in Georgia. After federal officials launched an immigration raid on Vidalia onion fields, the state’s congressional delegation complained bitterly. Immigration officials got the message: No more enforcement. Let them come.
Before that watershed event, immigration officials were arresting and deporting almost 1,500 illegal immigrants a month. By 2003, workplace arrests of illegal immigrants for the entire year totaled 445.

For many, it was a good deal while it lasted. Anybody who built or bought a new home in the last 15 years saved thousands of dollars in labor. Anybody who ate in restaurants, or even ate at all, saved in lower food costs and labor costs.

Today, we are trying to tighten both the border and the hiring process, to reduce the magnetic power of jobs to lure people to migrate illegally. Those are absolutely necessary steps.

But even if we make the borders airtight, we have millions of human beings already here. Again, as a practical matter, what do we do about them?

Jessica’s story offers a few clues, even if much of the country is not in the mood to heed them. She is not here trying to turn this country into Mexico. She is trying to turn herself into an American, to succeed in America and contribute to America. A person with her apparent diligence and intelligence, given the chance, would more than repay the taxpayers’ investment in her education.

But that requires a process to give legal standing to Jessica and others like her, and in the current political climate, that’s not going to happen.

As a result, we continue to bar millions from daring to rise above menial work. That’s dangerous, because, talent, ambition and hard work that are denied legitimate means of expression will pursue illegitimate means instead. We risk creating what we fear, a permanent underground that does not assimilate into the mainstream because the mainstream refuses to allow them to do so.

413 comments Add your comment

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
7:41 am

Perhaps George and Jennifer (Jenny from duh block) Lopez could have a cook-out and encourage the illegals to begin applying for citizenship, guest worker status etc.

Perhaps cleaning out the nests of fake document providers along Buford Hwy might help.

Pennsylvanian

May 18th, 2010
7:44 am

“She is trying to turn herself into an American. …”
Really? Is that why she didn’t have a valid drivers license? Is that why she lied about her residence? Is that why she lied to get into KSU on in-state tuition?

T-Town

May 18th, 2010
7:44 am

When one has no job, has lost their house through foreclosure, has trouble putting food on the table, trouble paying the bills, soon to run out of unemployment, many will begin to look for scapegoat for their problems. Jessica Colotl is an easy and convenient target. My question is: was the health care bill more important than pushing for jobs?

jt

May 18th, 2010
7:45 am

I read where she wanted to be a lawyer,

so it’s not as if she was going to be a productive member of society. We have too many now.

And the savings of employing illegals was never passed on to the consumer.

Thank you.

Not on my watch

May 18th, 2010
7:46 am

Excellent points, Jay. I think many people on both sides get so fired up, they don’t think about all of the implications (like most of our lawmakers).

If you look at trends in history, world wars and isolationism/nationalism usually starts with violence against immigrants. It’s too easy to blame all of our problems on them.

I agree that the law is the law, and it cannot be selectively enforced.

vracer

May 18th, 2010
7:47 am

Her lying and cheating was appropriate lawyer preparation, especially if she wishes to become a politician.

stands for decibels

May 18th, 2010
7:48 am

it’s important to at least acknowledge that we won’t be accomplishing much except the gratification of certain politicians

Which is applicable to the “LOOK AT US! LOOK AT WHAT WE’RE DOING! DONCHA LOVE OUR PANDERING?” AZ law as well.

And I don’t think that angle gets nearly enough critical analysis; it’s not so much that this particular deportation case, or that tweaking of the legal code, is the most horrific human-rights violation ever known to man. It’s just that it’s driven by political gaming theory, accomplishing little or nothing of value.

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
7:49 am

“I agree that the law is the law, and it cannot be selectively enforced”

Then how do you reconcile that with the fact that it IS selectively enforced? It’s fashionable right now to complain about how much illegal immigrants cost “us” – but those who complain don’t even want to contemplate how much it would cost to round them up and ship them out.

Not on my watch

May 18th, 2010
7:49 am

T-Town: it is not, and has never been, the government’s responsibility to create jobs. Anyone who expects that and calls themself a capitalist is a HYPOCRITE.

Make no mistake-I make no excuses for her breaking the law, but there are much better examples of dirtbags who flaunt the lawlessness.

Balance Our Budget

May 18th, 2010
7:50 am

So whats your proposal Jay.Reward them for breaking the law by granting them citizenship??????

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
7:51 am

“but there are much better examples of dirtbags who flaunt the lawlessness”

And the vast majority of them are good ‘ole USA citizens.

Not on my watch

May 18th, 2010
7:51 am

Doggone/GA: Agreed!

Disgusted

May 18th, 2010
7:53 am

Yes, it’s much more important that this country cater to all the ignorant, disgusting, filthy trash that had the good luck of being born here.

Not on my watch

May 18th, 2010
7:54 am

As someone who helped his spouse go through immigration LEGALLY, I can tell you that you have to jump through hoops of fire. Many times my wife was in tears because of the confusing maze of paperwork and interviews.

I had to TRANSLATE for my wife when we were interviewed because our southeast Asian interviewer’s English was DIFFICULT to understand. Seriously.

If anybody thinks getting into this country is like going to get a driver’s license, you’re deluded.

stands for decibels

May 18th, 2010
7:54 am

But even if we make the borders airtight

And we can’t. You can’t “seal” a border. The East Germans couldn’t. And they’re Germans!

If we fined everyone who used that stupid term a hundred bucks for each violation of rhetorical logic, we could probably pay down the deficit in two years.

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
7:54 am

Regardless of all the glad-handing and good intentions. This fem has enjoyed an exteneded stay, failed to apply for drivers license, lied to the po-po, apparently lied on college application, failed to apply for any type status other than illegal.

Its time she faced up to her responsibility of being an adult and go live in some other Country. She is a liar, has committed crimes and needs to be treated accordinly.

Bye bye Jessi.

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
7:55 am

“Reward them for breaking the law by granting them citizenship?”

There’s a case to be made for that choice. Balance the one law they broke against the hundred of laws they’ve kept since they’ve been here. Tek an illegal immigrant that has been here 10 years or more, worked a job all that time, spent their money here, paid taxes here…and balance against that the cost of finding them, processing their legal status, sending them back to their home country and losing their financial contribution to our economy.

Peadawg

May 18th, 2010
7:55 am

It’s a start. One lying scumbag illegal down, 10.799999 million still to go. Go Arizona! Set the right example for all states!

Not on my watch

May 18th, 2010
7:55 am

“You can’t “seal” a border. The East Germans couldn’t. And they’re Germans!”

Guffaw! (I’m of German descent.)

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
7:56 am

I guess her latest moves would be steps in the right direction to becoming a lawyer…lol.

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
7:56 am

Support AZ….buycott.com

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
7:57 am

sorry, “Tek” = Take

joe matarotz

May 18th, 2010
7:59 am

“…we suspended enforcement of those laws…”

And just who is “we”?

stands for decibels

May 18th, 2010
8:00 am

Still waiting for our moral compass and master strategerician Outhouse to explain how he’s going to pay to imprison everyone BEFORE sending them back, as he proposed doing in another thread.

(He didn’t say why he wanted to do that; I’m assuming it was in order to “learn ‘em a lesson” or suchlike.)

For the record, that’d be in the neighborhood of 300 billion dollars a year to accomplish, assuming you wanted to learn ‘em a lesson for a whole year.

Meanwhile, I suggest we set up a nomination process for the following categories:

1) Most willfully offensive use of terminology to demonize fellow human beings

2) Stupidest proposal

3) Most tiresome repetition of a FoxNews talking point

Balance Our Budget

May 18th, 2010
8:01 am

stands for decibels

May 18th, 2010
8:03 am

Guffaw! (I’m of German descent.)

who isn’t?

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
8:04 am

“Let the people decide how to handle this problem”

Personally, I’m all for it. I think we should hire thousands of extra police officers, set up check-points on every street corner and make EVERYONE, EVERY person, prove their citizenship before they are allowed to pass. It’s our best, maybe only, chance of finding and catching all those illegal immigrants. Then we can pack ‘em up and ship ‘em out.

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
8:04 am

We found money for Obie HCare Im sure there is money to house, which we do anyway, the illegals until deportation. Perhaps Obie could use part of the $115 billion in “discretionary/wasteful” spending that was buried in the bill.

T-Town

May 18th, 2010
8:05 am

“T-Town: it is not, and has never been, the government’s responsibility to create jobs. Anyone who expects that and calls themself a capitalist is a HYPOCRITE.”

I also don’t believe it is the government’s responsibility to create jobs, but it is also not their responsibility to create health care (though now it apparently is). By putting up barriers to creating jobs, you stifle job creation in the private sector. This will be debated today, tomorrow, and in the future. My point is that while the administration concentrated so hard on health care, job and homes were being lost.

Jay

May 18th, 2010
8:05 am

Well Joe, in the case of the Vidalia onion fields, “we” was a good chunk of Ga’s Republican congressional delegation, including Paul Coverdell, Jack Kingston and then-Rep. Saxby Chambliss.

In the overall sense, the “we” is all of us, because that’s what the government did.

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
8:06 am

Better yet Dog we could hire the Woodruff park homeless and other homeless thru-out the US, cuz we know how badly they want to work but just cant find a job, to set up illegal immigrant drives. To help the illegals become legal.

This would help the illegals and the homeless, who cant find a job but so badly want to work…

stands for decibels

May 18th, 2010
8:07 am

My question is: was the health care bill more important than pushing for jobs?

oh the shame! how dare we work to make good on what we campaigned on?

oh wait… I forgot about the stimulus bill. WTF are you talking about, “pushing for jobs?” You republican fraktards wet yourselves for months about how horrible it was to — gasp — run up our precious deficit in order to fund shovel-ready projects. And now you’re griping that it, what, wasn’t enough?

Make up your friggin minds. Better yet, just pretend like you never said anything–you’re good at that.

TaxPayer

May 18th, 2010
8:08 am

Well, everything would still be all right and the family-valued Republicans would not be politicizing this whole immigration thingy if 1) those people were not taking our $50/hour veggie-picking jobs and 2) they paid their own way and stopped mooching off of hardly what you would call working folks like Bud Wiser and RB from Gwinnett and Dave R. and such. Why can’t things just go back to the way they was a few hundred years ago. The good old days.

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
8:08 am

Where are all those wonderful latino organizations on this issue. Do we hear them saying “this could happen to you”? Nope.

They should be encouraging illegals to sign up and become citizens…butt that probably wont happen.

Pennsylvanian

May 18th, 2010
8:09 am

Jay @ 8:05 – And who was the POTUS who caved in? And why?

stands for decibels

May 18th, 2010
8:11 am

1) those people were not taking our $50/hour veggie-picking jobs

You can’t do it, my friend!

stands for decibels

May 18th, 2010
8:11 am

We found money for Obie HCare

what, the hundred billion a year you’re always whingeing about? Two thirds of the way there, Outhouse. Simply to “learn ‘em a lesson.”

Jay

May 18th, 2010
8:13 am

Outhouse, I hate to break it to you, but there are no means by which “illegals (can) sign up and become citizens.” Jessica didn’t “fail to apply for any type status other than illegal,” as you claim, because such an application process does not exist.

That’s just the point.

And sfd, back it down off the personal, please.

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
8:13 am

If a person knocks over a can of coke and it spills the latino says “Oh look, the coke spilled”. Most others would say “Oh I knocked over the coke, let me clean that up”.

Thats the major difference…that old “personal responsbilty” issues yet again rears its OH SO UGLY HEAD.

stands for decibels

May 18th, 2010
8:14 am

sfd, back it down off the personal, please.

Understood, hence my re-post @ 8.11 to re-address the actual issue being raised.

T-Town

May 18th, 2010
8:15 am

Mr. stands for decibels; Please go down to the local shelter and explain to those there how happy they should be giving up their jobs and their homes, because now they have health care. I’m an Independent with a heart and could care less of the agendas of both you and your liberal friends, nor the conservatives.

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
8:15 am

“because such an application process does not exist.”

That can’t be completely correct. SOME process must exist. Cesar Millan (the “Dog Whisperer”) was in illegal immigrant and he is now a USA citizen. He paid a hefty fine, took his classes, and was granted citizenship and took his oath last year. And he was not deported either.

So there must be SOME process out there, they didn’t invent one just for him.

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
8:16 am

Outhouse, I hate to break it to you, but there are no means by which “illegals (can) sign up and become citizens.”

Well I guess she is in a real pickle.

Its not that I mind them being here, for the most part, because Im kinda ok with it or was. Its this arrogant attitude. This “in your face” crap-ola. This “Im here and gonna flaunt it and u can do nothing about”.

At that point I say to hell with them and get them out. They made their bed, let them sleep.

Balance Our Budget

May 18th, 2010
8:17 am

Outhouse Great point.Why are the libs suddenly so concerned about how much it would cost to deport the illegals.Where were they when Obama care and that ten year 1 trillion plus price tag was being dumped on us.

TaxPayer

May 18th, 2010
8:18 am

By the way, it’s Vidalia Onion season. I just got me about ten pounds worth. Them’s good onions… and cheap too! I don’t know how they do it.

stands for decibels

May 18th, 2010
8:18 am

I’m an Independent with a heart

if so, my profound apologies for mis-associating you.

But I’m not sure why a government can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. You can reform healthcare insurance and fund work projects. It would be a dereliction of duty not to do the former.

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:18 am

Our options with Jessica is to allow her to become a nationalized citizen, which in my opinion is out of the question, or to have her arrested for fraud in her lying to obtain in-state tuition.

Or she could just promise to vote democratic and all sins will be forgiven.

And she does have the same bright future as all the other people who always vote for the democrat.

Jessica, the Great Society Called. They need you pregnant and being abused by your boyfriend.

And welcome to the DNC.

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
8:18 am

“Why are the libs suddenly so concerned about how much it would cost to deport the illegals”

I don’t know about any other “libs” but personally, I’m not concerned with the cost. I just like pointing out that those who complain about how much illegals “cost us” NOW, don’t seem to have considered how much it would cost us to get rid of them.

Peadawg

May 18th, 2010
8:19 am

Balance our Budget @ 8:17

This should be good…..

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
8:21 am

Doesnt matter how much HCare is gonna cost so cost of anything really no longer matters. Just fire up the presses and get those greenbacks into the hands of the people.

Lord Help Us

May 18th, 2010
8:22 am

My favorite Vidalia, GA localism:

‘Vidalia onions are so sweet you can eat ‘em like an apple and they only make ya cry then there gone…’

No matter who picks ‘em…

TaxPayer

May 18th, 2010
8:22 am

Obviously, deportation costs for all the illegals should come out of the current DoD budget. I mean, it is their job to keep us all safe from those people and we give them a trillion dollars a year to do it so what’s the problem.

stands for decibels

May 18th, 2010
8:23 am

This should be good…..

why would it? you have no idea what it would cost to effect these half-baked crackpot plans of yours. You’ve made no effort to tally those costs.

You aren’t even bringing a knife to this gunfight, more like a sawed-off toy light saber.

Pennsylvanian

May 18th, 2010
8:24 am

Self deportation costs taxpayers nothing. Make the penalty for employing illegals so daunting that no one will risk it. When the jobs disappear, so will the illegals.

Scout

May 18th, 2010
8:25 am

Jay:

Remember the joke about “what’s an attorney on the bottom of the ocean?”

It’s a start !

Gale

May 18th, 2010
8:25 am

We find enough of those illegals who are caught have been in the US since before the last amnesty. What makes anyone think that another amnesty will solve this problem. It won’t and they will continue to flow over the borders. Cheap labor? To the greatest extent, yes. Expired visas? Yes that too. These two can be solved with more manpower for ICE. We are all aware that the immigration process is too slow. We need the process streamlined for those who want to be citizens. We need a cleaner process for accepting and keeping track of guest workers and students. We need to close the anchor baby loophole.

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:25 am

Taxpayer

Obviously, deportation costs for all the illegals should come out of the current DoD budget.

I completely agree, but only if the fed does what it did in 1953 when it deported illegals to at least 500 miles inside the Mexican border.

Scout

May 18th, 2010
8:26 am

P.S.

Even if you are correct in your assertions, the great majority of Americans have changed their minds …………. and that is our right.

If you are here illegally ……….. go home.

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
8:26 am

Well…if we keep them here the costs will be indefinite. If we begin deporting then eventually the cost to do so will be far less than the cost of their maintenance, repair, housing etc.

Peadawg

May 18th, 2010
8:26 am

SFD, I meant your response to BoB.

Southern Comfort

May 18th, 2010
8:26 am

Doggone

They have to go before an immigration judge and that judge would have to grant them relief from deportation. It happens, but I couldn’t tell you the percentages. There’s many ways around the system.

As Jay said it, the problem began when the complaints about the raids started and enforcement dropped to almost nil. I can remember back when INS used to do weekend raids at poultry processing plants in NW Georgia and NE Alabama and pick up 400-600 illegals in a weekend.

If you think we can “secure” the border, you may as well believe in Santa Claus and unicorns. We have problems securing our own homes, so how in the hell do you secure thousands of miles of open space? As I’ve said often, if you want immigration reform and enforcement, you will have to pay for it. Either personnel, technology, or the combination of the two.

T-Town

May 18th, 2010
8:26 am

sfd says: “But I’m not sure why a government can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. You can reform healthcare insurance and fund work projects. It would be a dereliction of duty not to do the former.”

Been around over 6 decades and haven’t seen one administration yet who could walk and chew gum. All had their own agendas and many have fallen through the cracks as a result. We have chosen Ms. Colotl as the focal point to our problems, but do not see those who are invisible to us. I ask you again to go down to your local mission and explain to them the importance of health care. The vacate look will give you their opinion.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

May 18th, 2010
8:27 am

Well, today’s the day us Tea Party people let them know we’re fed up and won’t take it anymore. Alot of the people that voted for healthcare for a bunch of bums and Those People will start packing up. I can’t hardly wait till Rand Paul gets up there and starts sticking it to that bunch of weasels.

Anyhow, we need to go after that president at Kennesaw that stuck up for this Jessica Colotl. Maybe revoke his citizenship and send him out of the country along with that Mexican. He let her take up a space that some good old boy out in the country that couldn’t hardly spell his own name wanted and deserved.

Anyhow, I’ve laid in the fried pork skins and got a couple cases of PBR in the Frigidaire. I can’t hardly wait to get home and tune in to Fox News to watch the look on the face of people like Specter when they learn they got the boot. We’re going to Take Our Country Back and get rid of this Socialism and the illegals and put Trickle Down back into the system. And it wouldn’t hurt none if the AJC up and announced it was folding. Heck, I’d sure drink to that.

Have a good day everybody.

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
8:27 am

“Make the penalty for employing illegals so daunting that no one will risk it. When the jobs disappear, so will the illegals.”

Remember though, that no matter what is proposed, the cost is ALWAYS to the taxpayer – either in the form of direct taxes, or the indirect form of higher costs at the cash register. Either way, it’s US who are going to pay.

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:28 am

THE U.S. VS MEXICO:
On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, “This was the most painful experience I have ever had in this profession.”

Southern Comfort

May 18th, 2010
8:30 am

I completely agree, but only if the fed does what it did in 1953 when it deported illegals to at least 500 miles inside the Mexican border.

Not all illegals are Mexican nor are they returned to Mexico. They are all repatriated to their home countries.

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:30 am

Words of Wisdom from America’s Hispanic Leaders

Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; “Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die . . Through love of having children, we are going to take over.

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
8:30 am

“On February 15, 1998″

Had to go back that far, huh?

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:30 am

Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. “They’re afraid we’re going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They’re right. We will take them over . . . We are here to stay.”

detritusUSA

May 18th, 2010
8:30 am

The illegal alien problem can be layed at the feet of all Americans because of our greed. The businessman employs them to make an extra buck. The consumer thinks we benefit by lower prices. Greed is as American as apple pie so there will never be immigration reform.

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:31 am

Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico, “The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot.”

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:32 am

Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, “Remember 187–proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens–was the last gasp of white America in California.”

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:32 am

Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, “We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country . . . I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, “I’m going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.”

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:33 am

Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn’t like it should leave.”

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
8:33 am

“Greed is as American as apple pie so there will never be immigration reform”

I agree in spirit, but in practicality I think we’re EVENTUALLY going to end up with some kind of reform as was support by G.W. A formalized pathway to citizenship for those already here, some form of guest worker program to manage seasonal workers, and enhance border security. But we’ll never be able to seal our borders…so yes, we’re always going to have some amount of “hidden” illegal immigrants.

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:33 am

Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, “We are practicing ‘La Reconquista’ in California.”

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:34 am

Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University; “We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos . . . “

Scout

May 18th, 2010
8:34 am

The costs of illegals far outweigh any benefits ……………. not to mention the human tragedys.

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:34 am

Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas; “We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are sh*tt*ng in their pants with fear. I love it.”

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
8:34 am

PLAY that fear card!

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
8:35 am

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:28 am

And I would be willing to bet the majority of those “showing their behinds” were the illegals. Its kinda like of SFD invited me to stay at his place due to job loss or what have ya and said 11:00 its “lights out” “you cook it you clean it” and a whole host of other rules.

I agree of course and after about 2 days I begin having wild drunken parties, taking advantage of his kind offer and then begin inviting my other friends over to hang out and also take advantage. Of course SFD is gonna toss me out and rightfully so, but then I get the po-po involved and he has to got to court to get me to leave.

Same type situation applies. We as Americans have offered help, looked the other way etc and gotten mostly taken advantage of at every turn.
OK…Mr Latino…its time to leave.

Southern Comfort

May 18th, 2010
8:36 am

Doggone

Guest worker program already exists. H2A visas are given to temporary agriculture workers who come here to work. They can qualify for H2R visa class if they’re returning to work for the same people after working in H2A status.

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:38 am

Doggone/GA

Don’t you think that it is important that we understand what the Hispanic Leaders are saying? Should we also ignore these kinds of remarks? Seems like you are asking an awful lot.

Scout

May 18th, 2010
8:39 am

Ooops !

“NYT: Dem Senate candidate lied about serving in Vietnam… “

Goober

May 18th, 2010
8:39 am

It’s not safe now, but in the early ’90s we built simple 20′ x 32′ plywood churches in poor villages in Mexico and maybe took a sack or two of beans and corn. In their show of appreciation before we left, I always left a puddle of tears on the dirt floor. Dad gum it, I’m making a puddle on my shiny oak floor just thinking about it now.

What ever happened to “Give me your tired, your poor”? They don’t know the laws to come legally and if I had to live that life, I would lie my heart out to come here illegally.

stands for decibels

May 18th, 2010
8:39 am

I ask you again to go down to your local mission and explain to them the importance of health care.

yes, I know, you think that’s a devastating riposte, because I should be horribly ashamed of how our government did more than one thing at once.

And if you stopped to think about the point you’re making, you’d realize how absurd it is. (Not to mention presumptuous; I don’t think anyone should be homeless; I think we should fund humane, decent housing for anyone who needs it. The mere existence of homeless people on the street is, as I understand it, something that refugees from some countries find difficult to believe actually happens in the richest, most powerful nation ever on earth.)

Anyway, I gotta go pay for a certain retired security expert’s Internet play-time. later, all.

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:41 am

AmVet

The Party of No. Coming with a jail bus to your neighborhood this summer…

. . . and if you are stealing our benefits and have no right to be here, Adios Amigos.

It’s funny, but until all this crap started and I saw the riots against policemen and the upside down American flags and the overt bias by the media, I really didn’t feel this way.

I have a feeling that I am not the only one.

TaxPayer

May 18th, 2010
8:42 am

We as Americans have offered help, looked the other way etc and gotten mostly taken advantage of at every turn

You probably actually believe that crap, don’t you Outhouse.

Lord Help Us

May 18th, 2010
8:46 am

Anybody know how many illegal immigrants registered to vote (and thereby, risked exposing their status) AND voted in the last few elections???

Take that fact…now add the other fact that LEGAL immigrants are a rising part of the population of our country…now add to that the GOP tendency to alienate these LEGAL voters…

Let them hang themselves…pehaps they will learn (oh, nevermind…)

Balance Our Budget

May 18th, 2010
8:46 am

Speakin of LA what happened to him. Anyone know?

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
8:46 am

“Seems like you are asking an awful lot.”

It seems to me that we do still have freedom of speech in this country.

Southern Comfort

May 18th, 2010
8:47 am

I have a simple solution. Those who want to get tough in immigration should sign up to do a few weeks with ICE or the Border Patrol. Put actions behind those tough words. You’ll get a first hand look at what it takes to do the things you want others to do.

See y’all later. Some here actually do more than lip service to illegal immigration.

bugatti

May 18th, 2010
8:48 am

Doggone/GA

It seems to me that we do still have freedom of speech in this country.

Did you write this?

“PLAY that fear card!”

So does freedom of speech only apply to democrats?

Outhouse GoKart

May 18th, 2010
8:48 am

Im sure you dont TP.

Why dont you go round up a van load of illegals, have them over to your place, feed them, let them sleep etc. I predict upon your return you would be cleaned out.

kayaker 71

May 18th, 2010
8:49 am

This is the same old rehash of the same old problem that Tucker ran a few days ago. She didn’t understand it anymore than Bookman does. What part of “it is illegal” is hard for you to understand. It must have been hard for our Congress and the past four White House occupants to understand so maybe Bookman has an out.
When a nation of laws looks the other way we are doomed. It is the very fiber of our nation. If you don’t like the law, revise it, change it……. but by all means, do not ignore it.

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
8:50 am

“So does freedom of speech only apply to democrats?”

And where, exactly, in what you quoted…or in anything else I’ve written…did I say you shouldn’t say what you like…or that you should be stopped? All I did was identify what appeared, from you selections, to be your apparent motive in repeating them.

Of course, I could be wrong…maybe you’re really trying to rally support around those quotes. If so, good luck with that too.

Doggone/GA

May 18th, 2010
8:52 am

“but by all means, do not ignore it.”

Seems to me you ought to be addressing this to the responsible enforcement agencies…unless you’re advocating vigilante “justice”

md

May 18th, 2010
8:52 am

Cost to deport would be minimal if we quit enabling.

No jobs, assistance, or services without documentation, we won’t have to deport – they will go the same way they came. Spend a little money and have express one-way bus service available from select cities, and the problem will solve itself.

NRB2

May 18th, 2010
8:52 am

Stop whining, Jay. We’re going to get rid of illegals, and that’s the end of it.

And liberals are next.

T-Town

May 18th, 2010
8:54 am

sfd says: “yes, I know, you think that’s a devastating riposte, because I should be horribly ashamed of how our government did more than one thing at once.”

Please excuse what “how our government did more than one thing at once?” What has this administration done in 17 months for the little man than give him health care and a lot more promises?