Voters seem intent on making a partisan Senate even more partisan

There’s a lot of political ferment and discontent out there, a sense that the political universe may be reordering itself in unpredictable ways. And over the weekend, it claimed a prominent victim.

From Politico:

“SALT LAKE CITY — It’s on. The first incumbent of the 2010 election year crashed and burned Saturday, and there’s ample cause for alarm for officeholders everywhere.

There was no personal scandal, no whiff of corruption, no silver bullet here.

Republican Sen. Robert Bennett was one of the most powerful and likable members of the Senate, he diligently protected Utah’s interests from his post in GOP leadership and he funneled millions of dollars back to his state as an appropriator.

But Utah Republicans didn’t care. In fact, that’s exactly why they tossed him out Saturday in a humbling second ballot vote at the state party convention.”

By finishing third in balloting in the Utah GOP convention, Bennett, a three-term senator, was denied even a spot on the ballot in the party’s primary. That’s gotta hurt. It also has to put a helluva scare into Bennett’s colleagues in Washington.

Meanwhile, in Pennsylvania, U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak has apparently drawn even in the latest polls with incumbent U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter in the Democratic primary, which is scheduled for a week from tomorrow. Specter, you no doubt recall, fled the Republican Party once it became clear that GOP primary voters would reject him because he wasn’t conservative enough. It now appears quite possible that Democrats will reject him as well, but because he isn’t liberal enough.

And then there’s Florida ’s U.S. Senate race, where Gov. Charlie Crist has abandoned the Republican label to run as an independent. Like Specter and Bennett, Crist was deemed insufficiently conservative by GOP party activists, who prefer the more ideological Marco Rubio, former speaker of the Florida House. In the latest polls, Crist holds a decent if surprising lead over his Democratic and Republican competitors, although it will be interesting to see if he can hold that position without benefit of party help and money. (Not surprisingly, Crist does particularly well among independents).

Similar dynamics are in play in Kentucky’s Republican Senate primary, where conservative Rand Paul holds a significant lead over Secretary of State Trey Greyson.

That’s fascinating for a variety of reasons, not least that Greyson has been endorsed by Kentucky’s other U.S. senator, Mitch McConnell. If McConnell’s preferred home-state candidate is rejected by his home-state Republican voters, it would constitute a pretty big rebuke for the Senate minority leader. In fact, it could have repercussions all the way up to Washington, where ultra-conservative Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina may be eyeing McConnell’s leadership post.

Two other senators facing primary challenges, Democrat Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas and Republican John McCain of Arizona, have double-digit leads in recent polls and are considered likely to survive.

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Union

May 10th, 2010
12:20 pm

Don’t think its going to be just a repub or dem outster this year.. anyone who is in office stands a good chance of being tossed out.

joe matarotz

May 10th, 2010
12:20 pm

Vote out the incumbents!

Outhouse GoKart

May 10th, 2010
12:23 pm

Everyone of the crooks needs to be tossed out!!

Mick

May 10th, 2010
12:26 pm

Go charlie go…

Dave R.

May 10th, 2010
12:27 pm

Nothing would make me happier than to see that useless slug of a Senator Specter voted out in the primary.

Outhouse GoKart

May 10th, 2010
12:28 pm

Specter represented Ira Einhorn.

NowReally

May 10th, 2010
12:30 pm

I don’t know why people are in such a stink about the incumbents. I predict the same no matter who gets elected.

Elected positions offer too much power……..period.

Normal

May 10th, 2010
12:34 pm

Paul
Are you around? Good news…and I told you so… ;) \

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2010/05/navy_seal_jury_050610/

Peadawg

May 10th, 2010
12:37 pm

I agree w/ joe matarotz. Toss ‘em all out on the lawn like your ex’s laundry!

AmVet

May 10th, 2010
12:52 pm

Unless the remnants of the Rove/Cheney slime machine can find a way to swift boat him, Sestak is as good as elected.

If Crist can win, it would strike a huge blow against the Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum Parties.

Paul winning in Kentucky might be of note if it weren’t for one fact – were talking about Kentucky. One of those southern states still looking to join the 20th century…

Union

May 10th, 2010
12:54 pm

Crist? Really? His qualifications are what?? The man has no principals..

jefferson

May 10th, 2010
12:59 pm

The senate is full of old yardbirds.

Doggone/GA

May 10th, 2010
1:00 pm

“The man has no principals”

He’s still in grade school? Now THAT is precocious!

Southern Comfort

May 10th, 2010
1:02 pm

If you don’t remove the root cause of the problem, it all ends the same. The only change will come about once outside money is completely removed from the decision making mechanism.

Public financing of elections + a complete removal of all incumbents = possibility of change in D.C.

Paul

May 10th, 2010
1:05 pm

So this is what would happen on the Left if MoveOn had the kind of power the Republican right has?

This might be the Democrats’ November salvation – the only Reps to make it through the ideological litmus test are not palatable to the majority of voters. What else explains Crist?

Normal

Good news, indeed.

AmVet

Note for you at the end of the last thread -

Paul

May 10th, 2010
1:08 pm

Normal

The three acquitted SEALS: seems to me there’s a general officer or two who pushed this to go forward who ought to be afforded the opportunity of a new job – as civilans.

Union

May 10th, 2010
1:08 pm

Doggone/GA
May 10th, 2010
1:00 pm

ahh.. gotta start paying more attention when I am on my bb.. shouldn’t blog and drive.. maybe that will be the next thing we outlaw?

JohnnyReb

May 10th, 2010
1:09 pm

“It now appears quite possible that Democrats will reject him (Specter) as well, but because he isn’t liberal enough.” Therein Jay is your miscalculation. This is a perfect example of why November will be a wipe out for incumbent Democrats. Not only will Replubicans be voting against them, but many in your ranks as well. That’s a prediction on my part, of course, but all the indicators support it. And that’s real indicators, not some legacy liberal media pole.

Outhouse GoKart

May 10th, 2010
1:10 pm

Union…watch out…Oprah gonna get ya.

Normal

May 10th, 2010
1:10 pm

Paul

May 10th, 2010
1:08 pm

Paul,
I agree…top officers are very political, and they have lost clout now.

As someone said before, perception is everything…
I think retirement is in order…

AmVet

May 10th, 2010
1:11 pm

Paul, thanks. It always amazes me on how hung up and slavish weak people can be about other people’s ideas and definitions. Maybe they had godly parents that never let them watch Beauty and the Beast…

Well we got no class and we got no principals and we got no innocence

We can’t even think of a word that rhymes…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qga5eONXU_4

John Birch

May 10th, 2010
1:11 pm

Jay – Crist winning would actually make the Senate less partisan. Throwing out the incumbents is a start but what we really need is a viable third party and term limits. That might give the peeps a faint hope of returning to some semblance of government of, by and for the people.

Union

May 10th, 2010
1:12 pm

I bet she wont be giving out any ipads anytime soon..

ty webb

May 10th, 2010
1:14 pm

yeah, chalk it up to those racist tea partiers. Throwing out all those incumbent white guys…oh wait…nevermind.

Union

May 10th, 2010
1:18 pm

“With iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations- none of which I know how to work- information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation,”

Obama doesn’t know how to use an iPod? What is the world coming to?

Foxy Lady is #1, losers

May 10th, 2010
1:20 pm

DeMint in poll position! Yikes!

The last thing this country needs is a South Carolina whack-job in a role of authority – especially one that is the name-sake of a very nasty after-dinner liqueur. Blarf!!!

Normal

May 10th, 2010
1:24 pm

Isn’t that Creme de Menthe?

David S

May 10th, 2010
1:25 pm

The only incumbent worth a damn in Washington is Ron Paul. Good riddance to all the rest.

Shawny

May 10th, 2010
1:28 pm

Get rid of all of them and start all over.

Shawny

May 10th, 2010
1:28 pm

1:25.. I agree. Paul has it right.

Southern Comfort

May 10th, 2010
1:29 pm

Normal

Half ounce of that along with a half ounce of vodka makes a shot called antifreeze. Hit 3-5 of those and you could walk shirtless thru a blizzard and not feel a thing.

jt

May 10th, 2010
1:34 pm

Meanwhile in Georgia,

the partisanbots will elect who they are told too.

Isackson is the lefty dream candidate.

Maybe there is something to questions of our intelligence.

Scout

May 10th, 2010
1:34 pm

Jay:

How many times do I have to say it? The BACKLASH is coming !

AmVet

May 10th, 2010
1:35 pm

I am not opposed to the anti-incumbency fever raging about right now.

BUT…you are all focused on the symptoms and not the disease.

You’ll throw these lackeys out and simply replace them with new lackeys.

And NOTHING changes.

Unless and until these two political parties of failure are emasculated. And we begin implementing a competitive democracy to restore we the people’s sovereignty.

That means taking it back from the oligarchs and plutocrats who own the corporations who own the politicians. But right now there ain’t a politician alive with the guts to take them on. Hell, there are precious few voters who even demand it.

Yet…

Southern Comfort

May 10th, 2010
1:39 pm

AmV

Amen on taht 1:35 post!!!

Southern Comfort

May 10th, 2010
1:39 pm

Oops… *that

jt

May 10th, 2010
1:40 pm

“Unless and until these two political parties of failure are emasculated. And we begin implementing a competitive democracy to restore we the people’s sovereignty.”

It wouldn’t hurt to go after some pensions too.

Some ex post facto justice.

Rightwing Troll

May 10th, 2010
1:42 pm

I’ll vote mine out if you will…

Of course what AmVet says is so true. The Democrats didn’t learn much from 2000 to 2008 and neither did the Republicants.

Union

May 10th, 2010
1:43 pm

AmVet & SoCo – Kind of like politicians pandering to a group of voters by giving handouts from the haves to the have nots..

jewcowboy

May 10th, 2010
1:45 pm

Most of this just appears to be Republican ovophagy.

Rightwing Troll

May 10th, 2010
1:46 pm

Of course then comes the BACKLASH against the BACKLASH and so on…

You are so gleeful and full of hubris about the repeated cyle of idiocy? You think something has actually changed and “they’ll do better this time around”?… Really???

Southern Comfort

May 10th, 2010
1:47 pm

Union

Yep, kinda like that. However, you can also include the politicians pandering to a group of voters by giving them loopholes so they don’t give much back to the country that has given them so much.

Normal

May 10th, 2010
1:49 pm

Southern Comfort

May 10th, 2010
1:29 pm

No thanks! That sounds deadly!!!

Normal

May 10th, 2010
1:51 pm

SoCo, “taht”…I thought you were channeling Betty Davis. :)

Southern Comfort

May 10th, 2010
1:53 pm

Normal

It’s not a very tasty shot. The taste reminds me of Scope, but after about 4-5 of them, you don’t really feel much of anything.

jewcowboy

May 10th, 2010
1:55 pm

“Bad politicians are sent to Washington by good people who don’t vote.” ~ William E. Simon

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
1:55 pm

Johnny Reb said, “And that’s real indicators, not some legacy liberal media pole.”

Oh, really? Real indicators, you say? That’s a little like telling the state trooper that the speedometer in your car is the real indicator of how fast you were going in that 40 MPH zone.

PCA'10

May 10th, 2010
1:57 pm

James Dobson (Focus on the Family) has endorsed Rand Paul.

AmVet

May 10th, 2010
1:57 pm

“Kind of like politicians pandering to a group of voters by giving handouts from the haves to the have nots.”

And don’t forget Union, “Kind of like politicians pandering to a group of voters by giving handouts from the haves to the really haves.”

Income redistribution upwards! ONLY in an utterly corrupted version of capitalist America.

Gotta go, duty calls.

See you Bookmaniacs later.

Southern Comfort

May 10th, 2010
1:59 pm

Union @ 1:18

As with most people who take things out of context, you failed to post the prior sentence to that quote.

And meanwhile, you’re coming of age in a 24/7 media environment that bombards us with all kinds of content and exposes us to all kinds of arguments, some of which don’t always rank that high on the truth meter.

I don’t think Obama is signaling out those items exclusively. I believe what he was trying to point out is that there is information overload now. What students face now is a barrage of information, some of which is less than truthful, that they have to wade thru. That barrage of information, along with other gadgets can become a distraction instead of being helpful.

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
1:59 pm

John Birch, the third party setup is proving a bit difficult in the UK just now.

Normal

May 10th, 2010
1:59 pm

“The taste reminds me of Scope”

I used to put Scope in my water pipe, back in the day…great hits, and clean breath…

jewcowboy

May 10th, 2010
2:07 pm

“James Dobson (Focus on the Family) has endorsed Rand Paul.”

I wonder who George Rekers is endorsing…and if he found him on rentboy.com

Southern Comfort

May 10th, 2010
2:11 pm

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:11 pm

Normal, lol. Never thought of that one.

@@

May 10th, 2010
2:11 pm

About the education among our military personnel…the same military personnel that John Kerry considers dumb…it’s a well-known fact that Gen. David Petraeus is highly educated:

MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. When asked whether nationalism is putting down roots in Afghanistan’s tribalized society, Gen. David Petraeus is judicious: “I don’t know that I could say that.” He adds, however, that “we do polling” on that subject. When his questioner expresses skepticism about the feasibility of psephology – measuring opinion – concerning an abstraction such as nationalism in a chaotic, secretive and suspicious semi-nation, Petraeus, his pride aroused, protests: “I took research methodology” at Princeton. There he acquired a Ph.D. in just two years: His voracious appetite for knowing things is the leitmotif of his career.–O.C. Register

A curious sort, eh? Building one nation at a time.

Dusty

May 10th, 2010
2:11 pm

Yawn….Bookman found a few people not being re-elected to Congress. So what’s new? I thought there were new ones in Washington every year. But NOW it is a big deal with some great predictable onslaught about to happen There will be CHANGES!!! The sun will lose its schedule. The tides will turn. Volcanoes will burst forth!

OH well. I ‘m just not a political guru who must agonizingly intepret every way the political winds blow. I will leave that to the blowhards. Liberals are really breezy ’specially when they are paid to do it.

mm

May 10th, 2010
2:13 pm

“Crist? Really? His qualifications are what?? The man has no principals..

It is mindnumbing to continue hearing about “qualifications”. Qualifications = career politician.

Most politicians are rich, lawyers, or both. They know how to game the system. So when you elect someone with “qualifications”, you are electing a career politician that doesn’t care about you, but only their own wallet.

And yes, the GOP is eating their young (and old). Bennett voted with the Dems once or twice.

The GOP is moving so far right they will not be pallatable to a majority of the population.

And don’t compare this to the Dems going after Blanche Lincoln. It’s not that she isn’t liberal enough. It’s that she votes with the GOP ALL the time. The GOP is blowing it bigtime with this purging.

Dusty

May 10th, 2010
2:16 pm

@@

Always good to hear about Petraeus. He is one smart cookie and practical. Do you think he will ever run for president? We surely do need a competent one.

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:16 pm

Dusty, if you frequent this blog, you are likely just as much a contributor to the “political winds” as anyone else, whether you blow left or right.

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:21 pm

mm said, “The GOP is moving so far right they will not be pallatable to a majority of the population.”

Actually, I would love to see Sarah Palin for president in 2012. It would prove more excitiing than the UK’s recent three-way fight for one thing. And if she were to win, well, so much for candidates’ qualifications.

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:22 pm

I meant see Sarah run for president in 2012.

moonbat betty

May 10th, 2010
2:23 pm

Just get rid of the voters.

replace them with illegals and the eu.

Dusty

May 10th, 2010
2:23 pm

theeyeshaveit,

You may call me breezy.but not frequent. Frequent requires daily time on this blog. I don’t have that much time to waste. But it can be fun kinda like going to the zoo. Sometimes the antics are cute. At other times, there has not been enough cleanup.

Mick

May 10th, 2010
2:24 pm

Scout
**How many times do I have to say it? The BACKLASH is coming**

What will you do if the “backlash” flops?

mm

May 10th, 2010
2:25 pm

Palin on the GOP ticket will insure a Dem landslide victory.

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:26 pm

Moonbat, like a certain comedian I heard recently, I say let’s make a swap. We keep the illegals and send all the Goldman folks south of the border.

jewcowboy

May 10th, 2010
2:28 pm

I would like to thank a Republican today, as it is the anniversary of the driving of the last spike in the Trans-continental Railroad at Promotory Summit. Without Lincoln’s weight behind the Pacific Railroad Acts of 1862 and 1864 (during the Civil War no less), American would not be the success she is today.

It makes one wonder though. If such a historic and monumental infrastructure project could be envisioned and passed during the most tumultuous times in U.S. history…what the f*ck is our problem today?

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:28 pm

Mick, would it be OK to call that a “backflop”? Kind of like a belly flop in the backyard swimming pool. A lot of splash and not much on style points.

Mick

May 10th, 2010
2:32 pm

I’ll accept the judgement of the electorate but it would be funny if that after all the hooping and hoolering, the backflop still is in the minority..

Dusty

May 10th, 2010
2:34 pm

Illegal immigrants cost Americans more money than Goldman. That ol’ “hate the rich” is not practical. The rich pay 50% of our taxes. You want to fill in for them?

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:34 pm

jewcowboy, did you happen to see The History Channel’s “America The Story of Us” last night? It mentioned how Lincoln federalized the railroads and expanded their reach to help defeat the confederate army. He also moved the telegraph folks into a government office for the same reason. Wow. A Republican who employed big government precipitated the fall of the South. Contemplate that one.

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:37 pm

Dusty, lighten up. I heard a comedian say that. I laughed. I guess I’d hoped you’d find the humor in it, too.

Bosch

May 10th, 2010
2:37 pm

“Do you think he will ever run for president?”

No, he seems to honorable.

Dusty

May 10th, 2010
2:38 pm

BACKFLOP????? You should not talk about our president like that. Flip flop would be more appropriate.

Bosch

May 10th, 2010
2:39 pm

theeyeshaveit,

Sarah’s too busy spreading the hate and lies. There’s more money in it and she’s making a mint.

jewcowboy

May 10th, 2010
2:41 pm

theeyeshaveit,

I recently finished reading Stephen Ambrose’s “Nothing Like It In the World: The Men Who Built the Transcontinental Railroad 1863-1869″. Astonishing, both in terms of of the political and financial will, as well as the sheer determination by all those involved. The most brilliant part in my opinion was the government setting it up as a competition between The Union Pacific and the Central Pacific…

No no-bid contracts there…whichever company built the most, made the most.

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:41 pm

Bosch, Colin Powell was too honest to buy W’s pre-Iraq invasion rhetoric. In hindsight, he must have found it painful to offer up those photos of the Iraqi “WMD” vans at the UN

Southern Comfort

May 10th, 2010
2:41 pm

It makes one wonder though. If such a historic and monumental infrastructure project could be envisioned and passed during the most tumultuous times in U.S. history…what the f*ck is our problem today?

We’re an instant gratification, all-about-me society now. If we were more concerned about the country as a whole, we’d be pretty much the same as then. However, it’s all about ME all the time now.

Mick

May 10th, 2010
2:42 pm

**That ol’ “hate the rich” is not practical. The rich pay 50% of our taxes. You want to fill in for them?**

I’d love to and I love the rich and think they should pay more taxes like they did during the eisenhower admin. The backflop is not about obama, it is about congress and which way the wind is blowing in Nov.

jewcowboy

May 10th, 2010
2:42 pm

theeyeshaveit,

“did you happen to see The History Channel’s “America The Story of Us” last night?”

Unfortunately I don’t receive the History Channel :(

@@

May 10th, 2010
2:45 pm

Geez! and here I thought my outing Rekers before any of the leftists could would discourage their gay bashing. I guess that was too much to expect.

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:47 pm

jewcowboy, sounds like a good read. Right now, I am considering either Michael Lewis’s “The Big Short” about Wall-Street or Lisa Randall’s “Warped Passages” on particle physicals. That is, if I can get off the Internet. ;-)

jewcowboy

May 10th, 2010
2:48 pm

Southern Comfort,

“We’re an instant gratification, all-about-me society now.”

I fear you are correct. It reminds me of a comedian someone posted earlier (bugatti, perhaps). A LA-NY trip takes five hours, where before the Transcontinental Railroad it would take 3 months, after the railroad 2 weeks. Yet, instead of being grateful, we complain that our flight is delayed 20 minutes and our seat only reclines a little.

*sigh*

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:48 pm

I meant particle physics, not physicals.

Outhouse GoKart

May 10th, 2010
2:48 pm

Story of US…entertaining series!

Dusty

May 10th, 2010
2:49 pm

Sorry, theyeshavit,

I only laugh at jokes about funny libs. Yours are all aimed at conservatives. one way or another.

Have fun. Must get going. au revoir, mon amis…later…

Outhouse GoKart

May 10th, 2010
2:49 pm

Agreed Cowboy…MY seat must recline as much as possible so I might be comfortable.

moonbat betty

May 10th, 2010
2:50 pm

backflops for the blown out flip flops!

maybe birkenstock can look into it?

Southern Comfort

May 10th, 2010
2:52 pm

jcb

Being grateful is not part of the American lexicon (with a few exceptions for uniformed personnel and such). I’m one who thinks that we need to slow down at times and just enjoy the benefits of living in this country and time offers us. Having a window seat to how other people live around the world makes me appreciate living here more and more every single day.

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
2:55 pm

jc, I lived in Japan for several years and rode that Bullet Train (Shinkansen) often. If Shinkansen were ever late (say 5 minutes late) an apology would go out over the train’s PA system. There is a joke in Japan – if a train is one hour late in America, there is an apology. If a train is 3 hours late in Italy, there is an apology.

Normal

May 10th, 2010
2:56 pm

I don’t believe “Leftists” bash Gays…unless they are “Closet Conservatives”, just sayin’

Union

May 10th, 2010
2:56 pm

SoCo..
This is a country where the “poor” only have one cellphone. Most people in this country have no idea what poor is really about..

Normal

May 10th, 2010
2:59 pm

Uncomfortable seats on a plane is the penitence you pay for getting there quickly…

@@

May 10th, 2010
3:01 pm

SoCo:

Almost impossible to slow down when we’re in perpetual campaign mode. I always thought it would be great if when some political pollster calls not to respond…tell ‘em we’re gonna leave ‘em in the dark which is pretty much where they reside anyway.

Question: “Do you support immigration reform? Answer: “Better question–do you really care.”

Heck! They wouldn’t know on which platform they could stand….left dangling in midair.

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
3:02 pm

Union, more in this country are learning what it means to be poor every day. BTW, sometime ago, I saw a report (mind you it was done by Goldman Sachs people) that had China at number one in GDP in the year 2020. The USA was ranked #2, but at only half of what China was to be. And hear this…Brazil and Mexico were forecast at #4 and #5 respectively.

theeyeshaveit

May 10th, 2010
3:04 pm

Normal, just do not fly Virgin Airlines to the UK until they get their space plane going. Ouch! Seats were so narrow and tight, my nose was inches from the seat in front of me.

Union

May 10th, 2010
3:05 pm

China.. hmm.. last time I was there riding the bullet train through the countryside.. I saw people washing themselves in water runoff from the cities.. living in “boxes”.. well the nicer ones were boxes.. hundreds upon hundreds..

@@

May 10th, 2010
3:05 pm

Normal:

I don’t believe “Leftists” bash Gays…unless they are “Closet Conservatives”, just sayin’

That’s the worst part of it. You use ‘em for the convenience sake.

Union

May 10th, 2010
3:06 pm

eyes.. BA is the only way to go to the UK.. I dunno about space though.. my seat always makes into a bed. :)