Gulf oil spill spreading; almost 50 miles long and 40 miles wide
An slick of oil leaking from the Deepwater Horizon oil rig off the coast of Louisiana, shown here in an aerial photograph taken Monday, is still several days from landfall, experts say. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
Boy, so far this isn’t looking good…..
NEW ORLEANS — Coast Guard officials said Monday afternoon that the oil spill near Louisiana was now covering an area in the Gulf of Mexico of 48 miles by 39 miles at its widest points, and they have been unable to engage a mechanism that could shut off the well thousands of feet below the ocean’s surface….
The Coast Guard also said in a statement Monday that an aircrew from the United States Fish and Wildlife Service spotted sperm whales in the vicinity of the oil spill on Sunday.
“The unified command is monitoring the situation and is working closely with officials from Fish and Wildlife, National Marine Fisheries Service and NOAA to understand the impact the spill and response activities may have on whales and other marine wildlife in the area,” the statement said.
Officials determined through weather patterns that the sheen of oil and water would remain at least 30 miles from shore at least until Tuesday. But states along the Gulf Coast have been warned to be on alert….
Doug Helton, a fisheries biologist who coordinates oil spill responses for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, or NOAA, said the oil emanating from the riser was taking the shape of a giant ice cream cone as it drifted toward the surface. He said there were no reports of dead animals yet, although that was expected to change if the leaks were not sealed.
BP, the oil field lease holder, says it has dispatched 32 spill-response vessels (skimmers, tugs, barges, recovery vessels) and five aircraft to the scene to try to control the spread of oil. “In Houma, La. where the field operations response is being coordinated, almost 500 personnel on- and offshore have already been deployed to coordinate the oil spill response,” the company said.
And as the Wall Street Journal notes, BP’s efforts are being closely watched by others with a lot at stake in the outcome:
“The rest of the oil and gas industry will no doubt be supporting BP in this endeavor. If the oil slick reaches the shore it will turn what is already a human tragedy into an environmental disaster. This could have consequences for the Obama administration’s plans to open the eastern Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic seaboard to oil drilling.
“This is inevitably going to give environmentalists a stronger weapon to question whether operations like this should be expanded,” said another London-based industry analyst.
“The Gulf of Mexico had very tight regulations anyway to mitigate against any type of explosion. What else can they do? It’s difficult to see,” he said. Green groups will argue that, “if you demonstrably can’t prevent this from taking place, maybe you shouldn’t be doing it,” he said.”
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AmVet
April 26th, 2010
5:48 pm
Drill baby drill.
11 men dead and yet another ecological disaster…
josef nix
April 26th, 2010
5:48 pm
JAY
Thanks! This is of far more significance than Sister Sarah!
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
5:49 pm
“This could have consequences for the Obama administration’s plans to open the eastern Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic seaboard to oil drilling.”
As well it should.
Paul
April 26th, 2010
5:55 pm
Yes, it’s a tragedy. Do we know yet what caused it?
But what to do in response? Shut down other wells? Not expand drilling? What other near-term options would those who advocate such a course suggest which would make up for the energy loss?
AmVet listed, some days back, the thousands of coal miners killed over the years. But we keep on mining because even a piddly coal mine produces more energy than all the windmills and solar panels combined.
So yes, environmentalists and east and west coast Democrats will point to this and say “halt.”
But I’ll bet they won’t offer any alternatives.
@@
April 26th, 2010
5:56 pm
Boy, so far this isn’t looking good
I’ll say….especially for those who died in the explosion. Haven’t heard the first leftist, here, mention them though. No opportunity in that, is there?
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
5:56 pm
“Along with Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, Obama also said proposed leases in Alaska’s Bristol Bay would be canceled. He would also limit any oil and gas drilling off the coast of Florida to no closer than 125 miles from the shore.”
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/03/obama-offshore-oil-drilling-needed-in-short-term/1
So then, this type of spill could be within 35 miles of this:
http://www.destination360.com/north-america/us/florida/pensacola-beach
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
5:59 pm
Drill Baby Drill!
And if you spill baby spill, you gotta clean that up baby. And pay for it baby. And pay into a “Drll baby drill” fund to clean up the next spill baby spill.
Yes, Energy has consequences. I’m for drilling, but if the fault is the driller, then the driller must be punished. If these companies can’t drill correctly, then they should be wary of punishments that could cost them. Let’s just take, ohhhhhhh, 1/2 of the profits as a fine. And if it doesn’t happen in a year with profits, then 10% of the revenue should be reasonable fine.
josef nix
April 26th, 2010
5:59 pm
If the government’s response to Katrina is any indicator…but what the h3ll, this is Louisiana we’re talking about here…Uncle Sam’s red headed step children since 1803…we’ll see…
rknight
April 26th, 2010
5:59 pm
How long before environmentalists are accused of sabotage? Hope everyone at Jazz Fest enjoys their shrimp po-boy this year; pretty sure it won’t taste too good this time next year. Hope the submersibles are successful. I usually just lurk but I’m originally from the Gulf Coast and this hurts.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
5:59 pm
@@,
“No opportunity in that, is there?”
Exploiting the dead is best left to Republicans…
http://www.theonion.com/articles/giuliani-to-run-for-president-of-911,2152/
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
6:01 pm
josef nix,
“Uncle Sam’s red headed step children since 1803…we’ll see…”
Thanks for the giggle..it’s funny because it’s true…
Keep up the good fight!
April 26th, 2010
6:03 pm
@@ – when do you start making sense? Since you “care”, what exactly does happen to the families and children of those who died? what programs pay for them to go to college, who pays the mortgage and feed those kids? I sure hope they have life insurance but its not nearly enough I imagine. So now, someone has to care for them. Who? “righties” dont want entitlements right? They get some social security money but that is bad according to righties…. why dont you give us the “personal responsibility” lecture now.
What happens if it turns out, like the mining deaths, that safety issues were ignored?
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:03 pm
rknight,
If there is any evidence, then yes. If the evidence shows the driller, then blame them. It is premature to accuse ANYONE right now.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
6:05 pm
Geeze. It only takes an environmental disaster for the Left to get off Palin and the Tea Party. Now the multi-billion dollar question is how much – if any – of the oil pumped out of the Gulf was used for Obama and Biden to fly around separately on Earth Day. CNN surely won’t investigate that.
But never fear, there is other news too, like radical left wing protesters in Arizona throwing bottles at cops trying to protect one of the 70 percenters supporting the Arizona’s SB1070 immigration bill. Hmmm. If Tea Party members and events are so violent and threatening according to liberals, why haven’t we seen any video of physical assaults on citizens and in this case cops? CNN sure won’t investigate this either.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Pro-immigration-protestors-turn-violent-92050184.html
RW-(the original)
April 26th, 2010
6:06 pm
What a waste of day whining about Palin. Now you’ve got to pack all the leftist outrageous outrage over the oil spill and the failed cloture vote on the financial takeover bill all into one evening.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:07 pm
jewcowby: ” limit any oil and gas drilling off the coast of Florida to no closer than 125 miles from the shore”
So, would this mean everyone other state would have more lenient drilling limits? I can drill 35 miles from Georgia, but not for 125 from Florida? (since I rarely read links, there may be an anser there, but I can see a . . . state vs state ruckus coming)
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 26th, 2010
6:09 pm
There is no such thing as fool-proof technology. Everything is considered by the risk-reward factor. In considering risk-reward though, we have to be honest with ourselves and weigh the risk by when something goes wrong, not if. Sooner or later, something will go wrong; that’s just the way it is. We have to decide if it’ll be worth the consequences.
On the subject of shrimp, I was reading a while back, that almost all of the shrimp eaten in the U. S., are farm raised in Asia. After reading that article, and the details of how they do that, I’m not real sure I want to eat shrimp anymore.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:09 pm
Freeman, way to twist the topic!
So, any comments on the actual tragedy, or do you just politicize EVERYTHING?
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
6:09 pm
“why don’t you give us the “personal responsibility” lecture now. ….What happens if it turns out, like the mining deaths, that safety issues were ignored?”
Who are you blaming again? Democrats have been in charge of Congress for over three years now, and one of them is *from* West Virginia, who is most notorious for being an ex-klanner. In any event, the last time I checked, the FAA can’t prevent plane crashes from happening either.
Think much, WhineOcrat?
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:11 pm
Hillbilly,
If you can find ‘em fresh, get Gulf Shrimp. There are places in Mobile, New Orleans, and surrounding areas where you can pick up freshly caught seafood. Bring a huge cooler, lots of ice, and tell your friends to pitch in for some fo the best, fresh seafood.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
6:12 pm
Freeman,
I prefer what Bill Maher had to say recently about the Orange Pekoe Brigade (though I’m not sure where the dig about dentistry came from):
“The problem with the tea party movement, besides their almost universal rejection of dentistry, is that they want money for nothing and chicks for free. They want a deregulated free market and their jobs to stay here in the US; they want guaranteed health coverage regardless of preexisting conditions without a big government mandate; they want to call themselves teabaqqers and people to keep a straight face. And of course they want big tax cuts along with deficit reduction. I can’t even think of a suitable analogy for that disconnect–it’s like thinking getting a hand job will clean your garage.”
“Everything that goes into defense costs us about a trillion dollars a year, most of which goes into fighting the Russians in 1978. Fighter planes for all those dog fights we get into with the Taliban, submarines to foil their evil plot to blow up our ships with car bombs, and space lasers to shoot down their exploding underpants…scream about handouts, this is what they should be protesting.”
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
6:12 pm
“So, any comments on the actual tragedy, or do you just politicize EVERYTHING?”
1) I’m not a pseudo-expert on the subject like you liberals and will leave the investigation and root cause(s) to the professionals.
2) A liberal telling me I’m politicizing something is laughable at best. You liberals have politicized everything from the Iraq war to Katrina to Goldman Sachs to illegal immigration.
Keep up the good fight!
April 26th, 2010
6:13 pm
hey freeman…. now how are you so confident those were not “righty plants” to make the protestors look bad….and of course, we can use any one of a number of arguments used by the tea partiers…. including “pro-immigration” or “anti police state” protestors can be right and left, correct?
Perhaps we should have an “anti police state” protest with guns and rifles on a national park and say “we came peacefully…this time.” I mean we know that is okay, right?
Union
April 26th, 2010
6:13 pm
If we drilled in Anwr..we wouldn’t have a mess like this..
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
6:14 pm
Jewcowboy: Quoting something from Bill Maher is about as credit worthy as me quoting something from Glenn Beck. Which is why I don’t quote radical wingnuts from either side.
Keep up the good fight!
April 26th, 2010
6:15 pm
Freemen… really with density like yours its surprising there is any sun today
@@
April 26th, 2010
6:16 pm
How could I forget!!!! The oil rig workers were from Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas….all backwoods rednecks.
Keeps:
Just pointing out how opportunistic leftists can be. Goldman Sachs…leftists? One in the same.
When the coal miners were trapped, you leftists were on it. When there’s an oil spill, you’re on it. The oil workers, injured and killed? Not a passing thought, unless of course….
…what exactly does happen to the families and children of those who died? what programs pay for them to go to college, who pays the mortgage and feed those kids?
you can turn it into an opportunity.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
6:16 pm
“now how are you so confident those were not “righty plants” to make the protestors look bad”
You mean like those plants who had a website and attempted to infiltrate Tea Party events and have signs that were supposed to show racism and ignorance?
Now as far as how do I know they weren’t plants? Because 1) we’ve already seen the hate for the Tea Party movement (or “bowel movement” as the ACORN CEO called it) and 2) the media isn’t investigating the protesters.
Case closed.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:17 pm
Freeman, what makes you think I’m a liberal?
1) I agree, I blame nobody on this spill. Yet. Once the investigation is done, then the fingerpointing can begin.
2) oops, you called me a liberal again. And “you did it first!” is not a good reason.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
6:18 pm
Logical Dude,
“but I can see a . . . state vs state ruckus coming”
Screw St. Simon’s…
Yeah…I do see your point though.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:19 pm
jewcowboy,
Yeah, I sometimes read quotes quite literally LOL
DoggoneGA
April 26th, 2010
6:20 pm
“So yes, environmentalists and east and west coast Democrats will point to this and say “halt.”
Not all of us
Real Color Wheel
April 26th, 2010
6:21 pm
We start with electric cars. Germany is using a thin sheet solar collecting technology to cover their outside walls and roofs. The only reason we are lagging behind is the likes of Paul saying it can’t be done.
The alternatives are there but the oil backers are standing firm even in the face of this disaster. Don’t buy another oil backed car, ever.
We voted down drilling in the Gulf years ago, Congress illegally bypassed our vote. Now your talking drilling more? Don’t vote for any incumbent in the Congress or Senate and don’t listen to the Paul’s in our country.
NRB2
April 26th, 2010
6:22 pm
When gas tops three dollars a gallon and beyond, will the media blame Obama as it did Bush?
The Democrats were relentless in blaming Bush for high gas prices. This from The Democratic Party website on April 27, 2006:
“Since he first ran for President in 2000, President Bush has offered a number of different explanations for what he can and cannot do to help the millions of hard-working Americans deal with out-of-control gas prices. With gas prices topping $3 per gallon in many parts of the country, it is more important than ever that the Bush Administration show real leadership and help alleviate the growing economic strain on Americans.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/06/when_gas_hits_3_a_gallon_who_w.html
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
6:23 pm
Logical Dude,
It is a valid point though…VA is 50 mile limit, some parts of FL 125, but other parts not…
Keep up the good fight!
April 26th, 2010
6:24 pm
@@ — hmmm… let’s see…compassion is an opportunity to you? Yes, many of this recognize the human tradegy and we also say..how can this be prevented from being repeated for the same stupid reasons. YOu want to lecture us on personal responsibility and that it was their choice to be in a danagerous profession. I see you have not missed this opportunity to turn the tradegy into an attack on liberals.
Paul
April 26th, 2010
6:24 pm
Good afternoon, Doggone/GA
Second SEAL court-martialed in the terrorist mistreatment affair went judge alone, no jury.
Not guilty. One to go.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
6:25 pm
“Freeman, what makes you think I’m a liberal? ”
Oh my bad. Let me guess. You are a centrist not affiliated with either party or political swaying.
/rolls eyes
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
6:26 pm
So is Obama still backing offshore oil drilling after this incident socialism or fascism…I keep getting confused.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:27 pm
Hi Real,
I guess I’m missing who Paul is?
Otherwise, after renting a hybrid, my next car will at the very least be a hybrid, and ideally electric. Not having to pay all the Internal Combustion Engine repairs saves a significant amount over time.
I can’t buy one now, since cross-country trips aren’t realistic in electric cars just yet.
Of course, clean battery technology has to come a long way also.
I recomment baby steps. (there’s that baby again) because there could be a huge breakthrough in energy generation, energy transmission, or energy conservation that can happen at any time. Too many eggs in the wrong basket at the wrong time can be costly.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 26th, 2010
6:27 pm
Logical Dude
I know the only place to get real seafood is on the coast. It’s been many years since I’ve been to the Gulf Coast, though.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
6:28 pm
Freeman,
“Quoting something from Bill Maher is about as credit worthy as me quoting something from Glenn Beck.”
Except Maher is funny and doesn’t cry all the time.
DoggoneGA
April 26th, 2010
6:28 pm
“Second SEAL court-martialed in the terrorist mistreatment affair went judge alone, no jury”
Why did you address this to me? I have not mentioned nor discussed this subject in weeks. And I did see that when it was posted earlier (yesterday maybe?)
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:29 pm
Freeman, if you REALLY must use a label, then “middle of the road” is probably best. trying to lump me in with the liberals, republicans, democrats, rightwing, etc etc would just make a bad assumption.
But then, you sound like someone who would think that someone NOT blood-red Republican is on the wrong side of everything. (sorry to label you)
Union
April 26th, 2010
6:30 pm
I think I will stick with my Yukon.. gotta keep helping GM as much as possible.. plus.. at @ 15 mpg.. I am helping with taxes.
DoggoneGA
April 26th, 2010
6:30 pm
“my next car will at the very least be a hybrid, and ideally electric”
and either one is completely useless to me. Until they come up with a full-sized, affordable van, and car, that can go farther than 60 miles I’ll stick to my gas-guzzling van and my gas high mileage car.
@@
April 26th, 2010
6:32 pm
Keeps:
Not one word from jay since the tragedy. Not one expression of concern from you leftists. Like I said…the coal miners? In them you had a purpose…their unfortunate circumstances were mentioned.
The riggers? Just couldn’t muster up any concern for those evil oil workers. The environment? Sho ’nuff!
I just call ‘em like I see ‘em.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:33 pm
Doggone,
Yep, if that’s what you need, that’s what you must use. Most of my family have SUV’s and some huge SUV’s. And it’s a shame the best a hybrid SUV can do is about 15% better mileage than “regular”
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:33 pm
Oh wait, I just thought of a label that fits me. . . “Logical”
Duh. I should have said that before.
Union
April 26th, 2010
6:34 pm
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
6:28 pm
Except Maher is funny and doesn’t cry all the time.
Funny to who? Is that guy still on tv?
AmVet
April 26th, 2010
6:34 pm
Well at least BP didn’t have a drunk, missing from the helm pilot on this one.
Paul
April 26th, 2010
6:35 pm
Real Color Wheel 6:21
[[The only reason we are lagging behind is the likes of Paul saying it can’t be done. ]]
Have you a cite for that or are you in Wonderland?
Hi Doggone/GA
I just remembered when charges were brought you were the first, I believe to list all the ’stack-on’ charges (making false official statements, impeding an investigation, that sort of stuff) they were facing. I believe you said if they were guilty it would come out at trial.
So… they’re not.
I thought you’d be happy knowing our special ops guys don’t make jihadists uncomfortable.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
6:35 pm
@@,
“Not one expression of concern from you leftists.”
And none from you on this post either…
NRB2
April 26th, 2010
6:35 pm
“At $3 per gallon, the American people can’t afford President Bush’s failed leadership anymore.”
http://www.democrats.org/a/2006/04/bushs_ever-chan.php
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
6:36 pm
“Except Maher is funny and doesn’t cry all the time.”
Jewcowboy: Beck has issues. Maher is just psychotic. He’s about as funny as an oil rig or coal mine explosion.
Logical Dude: you were the one that started out of the gate stating I’m politicizing everything. I think for myself, so you can label me whatever you wish.
rknight
April 26th, 2010
6:37 pm
Logical Dude
I had tongue firmly in cheek with the sabotage thing. Kinda, sorta. As for blame: tragic accident and what with the rig a mile down, we may not ever know unless the survivors can shed some light. And yes, I was speaking of locally sourced shrimp (which are fab).
DoggoneGA
April 26th, 2010
6:38 pm
“if that’s what you need, that’s what you must use”
absolutely. Heard the funniest thing this weekend. Some official wants the Obama administration to be to bicyclers what the Eisenhower administration was to cars. yep, just what we need…a national road system for bicyles. Wonder how much faster you’ll be able to cycle to California once they’ve wasted the money.
Not that I’m against SOMETHING for cycles. I’m all for better, and safer places for ‘cycles in cities…where they’re actuall of some use.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
April 26th, 2010
6:39 pm
Well, this just goes to show great Imagination at work. We don’t need no pipelines and stuff like that to get our oil. Just let it wash on shore and we can go down in our pickup trucks and get it. Heck, we can just go to the beach to get a fill-up, providing there’s enough Bubbas to figure out how to refine it when it comes ashore. And we can check our oil and top it off without doing a thing.
Things is looking up. Let’s drill baby, drill. We need more oil ashore on the whole east coast. The beaches are wasted right now, what with all the pasty-skin tourists walking on them. This could be the breakthrough we need to free ourselfs from the Towelheads.
We’re saved! Everybody have a PBR to sellabrate. We need the oil, and I need the rise in my 401k stocks.
Have a good night everybody.
Keep up the good fight!
April 26th, 2010
6:39 pm
@@ — Well I guess you are following me around to know every day what I say or do, right? Does Jay have to have a daily “in rememberance” column for the daily tradegy….. Or maybe your premises has faltered. But you can call them like you see them or dont see, or make it up….or like you want to spin them… we can call you for what you are…. or rather, Jon Stewart can speak it better for me. You know what to do.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 26th, 2010
6:39 pm
Yeah and about .000000000000001 inches deep, just sayin…
And I see that our illustrious Senate has been at work-
Other areas of interest include medicines that can tell a doctor if they have been taken on time, wireless monitoring of nutritional information, and sensors worn on the body or placed around the home that can detect if an elderly person has experienced a fall, alerting emergency personnel and the person’s doctor.
“Continuous monitoring of vibrations in the floor can detect falls and classify them according to the best choice of first responders – either a 911 call or a visit from a caregiver,” University of Virginia professor Robin Felder told the committee.
Monitoring the floor? Pills that phone home?
Now who’s crazy?
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
6:40 pm
“When gas tops three dollars a gallon and beyond, will the media blame Obama as it did Bush? ”
““At $3 per gallon, the American people can’t afford President Bush’s failed leadership anymore.”
NRB2: not any more than they’ll give credit to Bush for success in Iraq. Which, by the by, we don’t hear much whining about these days do we?
And then you have tax cheats like Geithner saying he never held a real job (like most of those running Washington right now).
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/04/25/geithner_i_never_had_a_real_job.html
DoggoneGA
April 26th, 2010
6:40 pm
“I believe to list all the ’stack-on’ charges (making false official statements, impeding an investigation, that sort of stuff) they were facing. I believe you said if they were guilty it would come out at trial.”
Wrong on both counts. I listed the OFFICIAL charges everytime someone – can’t remember who – challenged Jay to answer his listing of “sanitized” charges. I never said anything about whether they were guilty or not. I would never say anything except “innocent until PROVEN guilty” A list of charges does not constitute proof.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
6:42 pm
“Just let it wash on shore and we can go down in our pickup trucks and get it.”
Hey sweet cheeks don’t you worry! The Community Organizer Administration is eventually going to kill off them hick trucks.
“Things is looking up. Let’s drill baby, drill.”
Pooksie: Are you quoting Palin or Obama?
Paul
April 26th, 2010
6:42 pm
Doggone/GA
Saw a Ford Transit Connect on the road today. Ford won Truck of the year for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-aeVllLSPc
Might be in your future -
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:44 pm
rknight,
Darn, there I go reading literally again. I hope they can get the spill stopped quick. That’s the priority. If we can’t investigate because of the needed fixes to the rig, I’ll take fixes to the rig first. (not sure why this would happen, but it did just occur to me)
Doggone,
I’d ride the 5 miles to work if there was a bike lane at least in my neighborhood. Driving home in the dark, even with lights is touchy at best for the first/last mile. Of course, my previous jobs at 15+ miles definitely need a car.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 26th, 2010
6:44 pm
I’m all for better, and safer places for ‘cycles in cities…where they’re actuall of some use.
Amen to that. A lot of our problem is that we’re looking for “one size fits all” solutions. “One size” don’t fit all, so you have to tailor the solutions to different areas and different local needs.
TaxPayer
April 26th, 2010
6:44 pm
It is a good thing that this one is in shallow water.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 26th, 2010
6:44 pm
Looks like something else has been spilled-
Surprising documents made available to this author reveal that Assistant Secretary of Energy Cathy Zoi has a huge financial stake in companies likely to profit from the Obama administration’s “green” policies.
Zoi, who left her position as CEO of the Alliance for Climate Protection — founded by Al Gore — to serve as assistant secretary for energy efficiency and renewable energy, now manages billions in “green jobs” funding.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
6:45 pm
DoggoneGA,
“Some official wants the Obama administration to be to bicyclers what the Eisenhower administration was to cars. yep, just what we need…a national road system for bicyles.”
“We’re elevating it to the point where as we develop new road systems, as we develop communities where people can use light rail or street cars or buses, bike trails and walking paths will be equal partners, if you will, and equal components of those kinds of transportation opportunities in communities across America,” LaHood tells NPR’s Guy Raz. ”
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126263488&ps=cprs
Sounds good to me…25% of America’s car trips are under 1 mile. If the infrastructure existed for bikes that was on par with auto’s, perhaps we would use a bit less oil and have less rotund posteriors.
DoggoneGA
April 26th, 2010
6:45 pm
“Might be in your future”
Not likely. It’s not big enough. I have a full-sized van for a very good reason: I have 8 dogs and I can travel with ALL of them AND camp in my van too. A glorified station wagon is no-where near big enough for me.
DoggoneGA
April 26th, 2010
6:47 pm
“Of course, my previous jobs at 15+ miles definitely need a car.”
and I’m 35 miles away…biking is not even on the horizon for that distance. I’m chipping away at being allowed to work from home. So far I can only talk them into 1 day a week, but rumor is they’re considering allowing 2 whole days.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
6:51 pm
Paul,
“Saw a Ford Transit Connect on the road today. Ford won Truck of the year for it.”
Actually I’m thinking of getting rid of mr. nonjewcowboy’s Audi S8, and get a 2010 Ford Fiesta. Exchange 8 city/13 hwy for 30 city/40 hwy.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:52 pm
Anyone know where I can buy a good bicycle? Prefereably hardy yet roadworthy. Needs to be able to jump curbs(when cars run me off the road), handle off-road situations quickly (since I was run off the road), and cruise over pot-holes and railroad tracks with ease (because these are on the road).
Full reflectors, lights, and bullhorn required. (to let the cars know I am there)
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
6:54 pm
” I’m chipping away at being allowed to work from home.”
If everyone who could work from home, did so 1 day a week, most of our transit problems would disappear.
(okay, that’s my hypothesis, now it needs testing. How many companies will help test this hypothesis? Anyone? Anyone?)
josef nix
April 26th, 2010
6:55 pm
It’s a good thing this one is in shallow water, all right, and a good thing it’s headed for the Louisiana swamps and not the Florida beaches…we have to keep our priorities straight here…
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
6:57 pm
Logical Dude,
Atlanta Cycling Ansley is where I’ve bought my bikes and have them tuned up.
http://atlantacycling.com/storelocator/ansley-3.htm
Are if you want a really cool folding bike for commuting:
http://www.melonbicycles.com/
JohnnyReb
April 26th, 2010
6:58 pm
JewCowBoy – Bill Maher is the reason we dropped HBO after having it since its inception (yes, I’m that old). I try to refrain from name calling in my posts, but have no problem calling Maher an idiot. He’s the worst kind of idiot – self appointed, all knowing, arrogant S O B.
Freeman – do you watch Glenn Beck? He is not fringe right. He presents the facts. Best of all, the progressives hate him.
TaxPayer
April 26th, 2010
6:59 pm
I’m surprised that no Republican has stepped up to proclaim that this accident is simply more proof that regulations do more harm than good. Don’t hold back. Give us a big Gingrich cheer, Drill this, baby, or something like that.
@@
April 26th, 2010
6:59 pm
cowboy:
See my 5:56. I’ve been following the story. Heck! I’m still following the situation in Haiti. Let’s see….while Haiti was in turmoil, the lefts’ attention was focused on some missionaries as I recall.
I have cousins in the gulf area. No doubt some of them have been touched by this tragic loss of life.
I’m off to a VBS meeting at church.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
6:59 pm
“If everyone who could work from home, did so 1 day a week, most of our transit problems would disappear.” Here are a few considerations:
1) It depends on your job status and the openness of management. A $25k customer service rep under micromanagement isn’t going to have a high chance of getting to work from home.
2) Some people don’t have the discipline to work from home.
3) Some people have no lives and their only outlet is interaction with co-workers.
4) Many people live in another county than where they work because they have no jobs where they live and don’t want to move.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
7:00 pm
josef nix,
“we have to keep our priorities straight here…”
Heck ya! Unless it is a Hawaiian Tropic oil spill….
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
7:03 pm
Freeman @ 6.59,
Many solutions…
http://www.cleanaircampaign.org/Our-Services/Employer-Services
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
7:03 pm
“Freeman – do you watch Glenn Beck? He is not fringe right. He presents the facts. Best of all, the progressives hate him.”
I listen to him on radio when I get the rare chance. I’ve seen him on his Fox News show also on rare chance. With that said, he is not someone I’d quote for a reference or fact source. While not on the same kook wretch point as Maher, I choose to not reference him.
josef nix
April 26th, 2010
7:04 pm
And some of us lucky b*stids can get up, shower, shave, get dressed, grab a cup of coffee and walk to work all in 15 minutes…not a bad deal!
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 26th, 2010
7:04 pm
a good thing it’s headed for the Louisiana swamps and not the Florida beaches
That would be funny, if it weren’t so, dead-on, true. Not enough voters in the swamps of Louisiana for anybody to worry about upsetting them.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 26th, 2010
7:06 pm
get up, shower, shave, get dressed, grab a cup of coffee and walk to work all in 15 minutes
Takes me 10 minutes to walk to the mailbox and back, but it’s an enjoyable walk.
josef nix
April 26th, 2010
7:06 pm
jewcowboy–
Was looking for some swamp links to respond to your Pensacola one, but afraid I got too carried away with the Cajun music…but I think you know what the red headed step child had in mind…
TaxPayer
April 26th, 2010
7:06 pm
Look at the bright side. Folks won’t need to take any tanning oil with them to the beach. Just get out there and roll in it and you’re set for a full day of sun baking. And at the end of the day, scrape it off and dump it in the oil recycling drum at the nearest auto parts store. Do your part to keep America beautiful. Recycle.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
7:06 pm
Jewcowboy: MARTA transit is in jeopardy in metro Atlanta. Working from home is everyone’s dream, but as to several points I posted, not reality. Finally, those hundreds of thousands in the service industries can’t exactly work from home now, can they?
josef nix
April 26th, 2010
7:12 pm
Hillbilly–
What has been going on in South Louisiana for decades has been an outrage from the ecological and cultural standpoint…the shoreline and the colorful natives are just in the way of progress and the rest of the empire’s lust for cheap energy…
I tell you what, though, I’m looking forward to the day when it’s a ten-minute walk to the mailbox for us. Unmentionable has pretty much already won out on the swamp site, so our’s will probably be a pirogue poling to the mailbox…
Paul
April 26th, 2010
7:12 pm
Doggone/GA
Eight dogs?!!?
I knew there was something I liked about you!
jewcowboy
I was wondering about the S8 but didn’t want to ask about it. Ford did a major redesign on the Fiesta. Their other winner was the Fusion hybrid for Car of the Year. Fantastic mileage but doesn’t have a hatchback like the Fiesta. Well, I guess even the Fiesta isn’t technically a hatchback, but with that rear liftgate open and the rear seats down you have a ton of room.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 26th, 2010
7:14 pm
“The numbers are staggering. Over the past year, Palin has amassed a $12 million fortune and shows no sign of slowing down. Her memoir has so far sold more than 2.2 million copies, and Palin is planning a second book with HarperCollins. This January, she signed a three-year contributor deal with Fox News worth $1 million a year, according to people familiar with the deal. In March, Palin and Burnett sold her cable show to TLC for a reported $1 million per episode, of which Palin is said to take in about $250,000 for each of the eight installments.”
obozo only made 4 million on his memories of his stoned age, no wonder Bookman is filled with envy.
Keep up the good fight!
April 26th, 2010
7:15 pm
okay….when I read that Glenn Beck presents the “facts”, I know that I am an alternative universe…you are entering…the twilight zone…
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 26th, 2010
7:17 pm
Josef
I used to listen to an internet radio station (The Ragin’ Cajun, I believe it was called) and they used to talk about those things sometimes. About what was happening to the swamps.
Seriously, the walk to the mailbox is often a highlight of my day. I may see a rabbit, a deer, some doves, a new flower blooming, an unusual cloud shape, etc. Every day is something different.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 26th, 2010
7:19 pm
Nobody asked my opinion, but to me, Glenn Beck and Bill Maher are both obnoxious blowhards.
Keep up the good fight!
April 26th, 2010
7:21 pm
Wonder how much Bookman could have gotten if he packaged 2-3 year old interviews done by others and presented them like he did the interviews……
But then feel free tea partiers…..I am sure Sarah will come up with more ways to milk money from you. Be proud as you get taken to the cleaners….. Did she every pay back Alaska for the election costs from the governor term she did not finish? Now go ahead…lecture us about personal responsibility again and dont forget the part about quittin and putting your own personal gain ahead of the job you swore to perform when you asked the people to elect you…
DoggoneGA
April 26th, 2010
7:22 pm
“I knew there was something I liked about you!”
Yep, 8. Two years ago it was 10. I’m letting attrition get my numbers down though. Getting to the age where I just don’t want to deal with that many for much longer. I’ve got 2 that are 14, 1 that are 12. And I could still camp in my van, even with 10 dogs!
DoggoneGA
April 26th, 2010
7:22 pm
Oops! Ok, Ok, today is just NOT my best day! I have 2 dogs that are 14 and *2* that are 12!
schuurmans eliza
April 26th, 2010
7:23 pm
I feel for the 11 who died…and their families…..but…what….. I cant understand is..why…we have so many environmental disasters… the oil companies have destroyed….so much throughout the years….. our… environment will …never…. be the same….. how unfortunate for our children….. ..why are the oil companies… not held more accountable…..why…do we pay so much for gas when..there are billions upon billions of gallons spilled .. I know…some…. of…the money the oil companies make …are used…. to clean up the environment…I think…the ones who were in charge of this oil rig..and…the head of the company… should be fined …..and thrown into prison for life…..in turn…we …should pay …. less at the pump…..it seems only fair… …something ..has to be done….let us hope ..this doesn’t happen again…
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
7:24 pm
Freeman,
“MARTA transit is in jeopardy in metro Atlanta. Working from home is everyone’s dream, but as to several points I posted, not reality. Finally, those hundreds of thousands in the service industries can’t exactly work from home now, can they?”
I honestly do not have the energy to go into this…look at the website.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
7:28 pm
Paul,
“Their other winner was the Fusion hybrid for Car of the Year.
Yeah, I was looking at the Fusion as well, but I don’t want a hybrid and the Fiesta gives hybrid fuel economy without a 300lb battery.
That S8 is just too much for me. mr. nonjewcowboy loved it, it’s just way to large of a car for me, as well as a bit to powerful. Although I really like the stereo.
Scout
April 26th, 2010
7:30 pm
He son, fill ‘er up with Ethyl and check my oil and air !
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
7:31 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe @ 7.19,
I tend to agree, but Maher struck a cord with me about the Tea Party wanting it’s cake and eating it too…presumably with clotted cream and cucumber sandwiches.
josef nix
April 26th, 2010
7:32 pm
Hillbilly
Couldn’t agree more with you on Beck and Maher…
Talking about the Cajuns and that catasrrophe…I go back sometimes and ride along a road and look at the chimneys and rooftops above the water in places that just a few years ago were vibrant communities of a people who we have now romanticized into something they never really were to begin with, oblivious to the realities of what has been and is continuing to happen to their homes…this current disaster will put it in the spotlight for a few days and then they will fade back into a travelogue…
josef nix
April 26th, 2010
7:41 pm
jewcowboy
Okay, from the colorful natives…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgAmMM5T5jA
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
7:47 pm
josef nix @ 7.41,
The wedding: to each their own. That song had me rolling…
JimC
April 26th, 2010
7:55 pm
Folks, accidents happen in any field. Get over it. We have to drill.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
7:57 pm
JimC,
Are you a dentist by chance?
Chipper Jones
April 26th, 2010
8:01 pm
I’m tall and I can swagger. Don’t think you can beat that.
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
8:04 pm
Jay–If you check in tonight, my MARTA client told me that the GA legislature did approve the transfer of money from the capital fund to the operating expense fund, thus keeping MARTA afloat for the time being. I didn’t see any followup from you following your column last week.
Also, I’m starting tonight’s music with a dedication to you and the missus. I’d hate for those barred owls to keep showing y’all up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46unJjxj95o
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 26th, 2010
8:29 pm
Josef
Just a curious question, if a person owns a house and the land it’s on, and if their land is permanently flooded, are they just SOL?
getalife
April 26th, 2010
8:29 pm
Get down here and clean up your drill baby drill mess cons.
Kamchak
April 26th, 2010
8:35 pm
Get down here and clean up your drill baby drill mess cons.
If the past is any indication they will leave to someone who is competent.
JohnnyReb
April 26th, 2010
8:41 pm
After the Republican Immigration bill had passed and illegal migrant workers were a thing of the past, a woman applying for a job as a lemon picker appeared overly qualified for the job. The forman frowned and asked, Mam, do you have any actual experience in picking lemons? Well, as a matter of fact I have, replied the woman. I am divorced three times, owned two Chryslers, and voted for Obama!
josef nix
April 26th, 2010
8:43 pm
Hillbilly
Don’t know the answer to that one…I know that in Louisiana there are a series of laws pertinent to the use of a houseboat as your permanent dwelling…things like where to register to vote and such come into the picture…bears some looking into, though, all things considered…
Jay
April 26th, 2010
8:43 pm
Bruno, see last Friday’s post on transportation.
josef nix
April 26th, 2010
8:44 pm
getalife–
You’re down that way…what do you know about Hillbilly’s question?
Kamchak
April 26th, 2010
8:50 pm
Mam,[sic] do you have any actual experience in picking lemons? Well, as a matter of fact I have, replied the woman. I am divorced three times, owned two Chryslers, and voted for Obama!
Five out of six is a pretty good ratio.
moonbat betty
April 26th, 2010
8:54 pm
STOP DRILLING NOW!
let the arab boys take on the risk!
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
8:54 pm
sorry ’bout the delay, shopping & stuff.
coming back to this conversation about cajuns, swamps. . . I shoulda got some Zapps.
Freeman,
Your list of reasons where some people just cannot work from home is dead-on correct. That’s why I said “for those that could work from home.” This should take about 1 in 10 off the roads for a start, and perhaps up to 1 in 4 if all companies participated. (alas, most won’t, they like to micromanage their people)
We won’t know until more companies participated, well, and government. Other states/jurisdictions have tried 4 day weeks (not necessarily everybody getting the same day off) and it seems to work well for them, and reduce congestion on the roads.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 26th, 2010
8:54 pm
Josef, getalife
The situation I was thinking of, is say you own 1 acre (arbitrary number there) and a house. The land floods due to the changing coast line (without getting into all the reasons that could happen). You could possibly insure the home but could you even insure the land if you could afford it?
getalife
April 26th, 2010
8:54 pm
Not sure but most houses are elevated down here to meet insurance requirement.
theyeshaveit
April 26th, 2010
8:57 pm
JimC said, “Folks, accidents happen in any field. Get over it. We have to drill.”
I presume that you’d be all right with your dentist saying that to you, right?
theyeshaveit
April 26th, 2010
8:58 pm
Ah, jewcowboy beat me to the punchline.
stuart smalley
April 26th, 2010
9:05 pm
I’m going to do a terrific show today! And I’m gonna help people! Because I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and, doggonit, people like me!
c’mon getalife, get in my row boat!
I have a roll of Bounty.
Let’s clean up this neo-con mess!
josef nix
April 26th, 2010
9:06 pm
Gotta call it an early night here…g’night
TW
April 26th, 2010
9:06 pm
God made that oil for us!
Screw them fish!
Drill Baby Drill!
getalife
April 26th, 2010
9:09 pm
We will need ships full of Bounty.
And lots of cons.
Since Obama wants to drill, he can lead the way.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
9:09 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe @ 9.04,
My Mom’s good friend has something similar happen. She lives in Ft. Walton Beach, FL. Her house was built on stilts to code and the home was insured. Hurricane Opal came through, and when it over topped the beach it created a cut through…right through where her house was. Her house ended up in the sound, and the lot her house was on was totally washed away…absolutely nothing left.
The insurance company wouldn’t pay saying the house was still intact (which it was…just floating in the middle of the sound). They sued… and in the meantime was stuck with a bill from both the federal gov’t and county government who were fighting over jurisdiction of the Intercoastal Waterway for the removal of the house from shipping lanes.
2 years later, they settled for the amount of the contents of the house and the removal fees and lost their land. Almost 15 years later and they are still fighting the county who keeps sending them tax bills for land that is currently part of the Santa Rosa Sound…not fun.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
9:17 pm
“Get down here and clean up your drill baby drill mess cons.”
Getalife: as soon as you and your family stop driving cars, I’ll be right in that quest. Oh, and I’ll also slam President Obama’s ‘drill baby drill’ mandate in the Gulf. Too bad living near windmills makes people sick with the frequency and noise vibration and too bad electric cars can’t take an Atlanta resident on a vacation to Disney World. I won’t of course even get into the Gulf Coast fishing industry and big oil for boats.
You first.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
9:20 pm
“accidents happen”
Yes, yes they do. Now how do we balance the knowledge that accidents will happen and not ruin the earth?
1) we could create the situation where we totally protect the earth, and have zero accidents by banning energy creation.
2) We could disregard the earth, and drill cheaply, mine cheaply, and to heck with the consequences.
3) or we could find a balance. Use coal, oil, nuclear, hydrothermal, wind, tidal, solar, and biomass, with regulations that spur power creation with minimizing accidents.
Of course, the goal is zero accidents. I’m sure each company that has an accident has losses. In this case, loss of life as well.
Are there any regulations that could have prevented this disaster? I don’t know. Perhaps the last few years of hurricanes made the structure weaker, creating opportunities for barnacles to get into crevices and eat away at the supports. Or some part of the safety regimen was not followed by the company because it’s “inconvenient” which caused one thing to lead to another which led to disaster.
@@
April 26th, 2010
9:20 pm
I AM WOMAN!
But my husband feels a bit neglected.
It will be up to each of you to make sure young people, African Americans, Latinos and women who empowered our victory in 2008 will stand with us once again.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/36346.html
Obama’s great divide.
“A pigeon in every pot, errrr hole”.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 26th, 2010
9:21 pm
I wonder what the vast bureaucracy at Immigration and Customs Enforcement does all day long with obozo as “president?”
Suck off the side of We The People like any other federal parasite?
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 26th, 2010
9:26 pm
jewcowboy
That’s sounds like the kind of situation I had in mind. I’m sure it’s a nightmare for them. But even if they eventually get paid for the cost of the house, they still will get nothing for the value of the lot itself, which is now gone?
I don’t know what the solution would be.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
9:28 pm
I Report,
How about you join up and see? I’m sure like most agencies, the majority wants to do what is best for the country, NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT. They do their job.
Now, if you question the need to have the agency in the first place; we can discuss that. But calling it a “federal parasite” sounds like you are unable to discuss it logically.
@@
April 26th, 2010
9:28 pm
I just read an article at the LATimes that quoted some day laborers–don’t know if they were undocumented or not, but they’re leaving Arizona for states unknown.
Kamchak
April 26th, 2010
9:31 pm
For Just $350, You Can Own a Signed Copy of George W. Bush’s New Book! Personally, I can’t wait to read it. What I’m most curious about is — do you think he went pop-up or color-by-numbers?
Heh…heh…heh….
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
9:32 pm
“But calling it a “federal parasite” sounds like you are unable to discuss it logically.”
Bingo!
Midori
April 26th, 2010
9:36 pm
this is really depressing
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
9:36 pm
Otherwise, I’m not sure what ICE has to do with the disaster that’s the subject of the day.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
9:37 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe,
“I don’t know what the solution would be.”
The last time I discussed it with my mom was a couple of years ago, and they were having to get the state of Florida to condemn the land, so that Okaloosa county could condemn it, so the state could offer them a settlement since neither the state nor the county would allow them and their neighbors to pay to have the sand filled back in…but they did restore all the dunes that were flattened where no one lives but where the tourist go
I’m curious now, I’ll find out from my mom and let you know what happened.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 26th, 2010
9:38 pm
LD- The Federales whines and moans about immigration enforcement in Arizona and also happens to be the department in charge of immigration enforcement for the rest of the United States, what planet are you dialing in from?
moonbat betty
April 26th, 2010
9:39 pm
Midori, don’t you have a ship to hijack off the coast of Somalia?
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
9:42 pm
A Shrub book, the Tea Party, and Palin. The Left whines when out of power, and whines when in power. What gives?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 26th, 2010
9:45 pm
obozo feels the pain of the illegal immigrants, for real, hahahahaha
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
9:45 pm
Freeman,
“A Shrub book, the Tea Party, and Palin. The Left whines when out of power, and whines when in power. What gives?”
Have you seen “conservatives” on here post about Clinton, Gore and Carter? There are some things that are bi-partisan.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
9:46 pm
I report,
It was immigrants who sabotaged the oil rig? That’s some good, out of the box thinking there. I missed that possibility.
And they tell me that I’m on this planet called “Earth” (see previous post about trying not to destroy it)
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 26th, 2010
9:47 pm
Wouldn’t that be kewl if obozo went to AZ and they busted him for not have any documents, just sayin…
getalife
April 26th, 2010
9:47 pm
I guess Freeman does not read the RW blogs.
That is all the cons do is whine about Obama.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 26th, 2010
9:48 pm
LD- When did the oil rig come into play?
Perhaps you should lie down, no?
getalife
April 26th, 2010
9:51 pm
“Wouldn’t that be kewl if obozo went to AZ and they busted him for not have any documents, just sayin…”
Like that.
Are you a birther too Freeman?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 26th, 2010
9:52 pm
Did anybody think that obozo doesn’t want AZ to enforce immigration laws because he might have to visit there someday?
Huh?
Midori
April 26th, 2010
9:53 pm
Midori, don’t you have a ship to hijack off the coast of Somalia?
and the prize for the grossly moronic, most ignorant post of the decade goes to………………….
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
9:53 pm
I Report,
Oil Rig: oh, nevermind. If you didn’t know that you are posting on a blog about an oil spill from an oil rig. . . well. it’s not worth me trying to point it out to you.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
9:56 pm
Midori,
“and the prize for the grossly moronic, most ignorant post of the decade goes to………………….”
Way to many to choose from
theyeshaveit
April 26th, 2010
9:58 pm
Freeman, we are not whining about the Tea Party and Sarah Palin. We are celebrating them. The Tea Party has given America a new dialect in TeaBonics and Sarah is always a buncha fun. I’d sure luv to hunker down in the classroom with a looker like Sarah teaching me geography. Feel the love, man.
Midori
April 26th, 2010
9:58 pm
Hi JCB,
I mean, I’ve seen some “out there” posts on this blog before, but that one took the pie, cake AND eclair!!!!
@@
April 26th, 2010
10:00 pm
There’s a subject? The daily topic is rarely discussed here. Dinner? Movies? What’cha did over the weekend? Other bloggers during their absence? Those are the topics everyday.
Any of the alternatives you’ve listed, LD, comes with its own hazards. All you have to do is type “disadvantages of (fill in the blank) and up pops a disadvantage or two or three.
Birds, bats, redirecting water flow, geographical location…it goes on and on. Heck! the environmentalists and alternative advocates even offer complaints.
What’s a body to do.
Oh, and ICE is melting or haven’t you heard?
theyeshaveit
April 26th, 2010
10:02 pm
jewcowboy said, “Midori, ‘and the prize for the grossly moronic, most ignorant post of the decade goes to………………….’
Way to many to choose from
”
Just like on the old Gong Show – too many great acts to choose from.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
10:03 pm
“Have you seen “conservatives” on here post about Clinton, Gore and Carter?”
Yep jewcowboy. To quote EA, it’s all in the game.
“That is all the cons do is whine about Obama.”
Well getalife, he’s our President. I’m sorry that people being against his policies offends you. Welcome to being on the receiving end. And yes, I’ve had my disagreements with Reagan and Bush I and Bush II as well.
“Are you a birther too Freeman?”
No getalife, I’m not. It’s ridiculous and they need to get over it.
Any more questions?
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
10:05 pm
“Freeman, we are not whining about the Tea Party and Sarah Palin. We are celebrating them. ”
Well theyeshaveit, that’s obvious considering how much time the Left has spent (wasted actually) on both.
theyeshaveit
April 26th, 2010
10:08 pm
Freeman, I say this from the bottom of my heart. I wantSarah to run in 2012, hopefully as the candidate of an autonomous Tea Party. It would put the fun back into politics.
Midori
April 26th, 2010
10:10 pm
Heck,
I want her to run, too!!
RUN, SARAH, RUNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!
moonbat betty
April 26th, 2010
10:12 pm
palin is not going to run in 2012.
so please stfu.
just messin’ with you midori
theyeshaveit
April 26th, 2010
10:13 pm
Think of Jenney imploring Forrest Gump to run and say this, “Run, Sarah, Run!”
theyeshaveit
April 26th, 2010
10:14 pm
Betty, ah, say it ain’t so.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
10:14 pm
“Have you seen “conservatives” on here post about Clinton, Gore and Carter?”
And another thing jewcowboy: I’d like to have former President Clinton back in office (and Newt’s Repubican Congress) compared to what we have now.
As far as Gore, well, making millions off of emotion science is not worthy of bragging rights. And as far as Carter, the record of his administration, from the Middle East to the Iran hostage crisis to the oil crisis to runaway inflation and record interest rates all speak for themselves.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
10:14 pm
“I wantSarah to run in 2012, hopefully as the candidate of an autonomous Tea Party. It would put the fun back into politics.”
Heck yeah! And…if only…Michele Bachmann would join the ticket…
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
10:15 pm
@@,
Yes, all of those options have advantages and disadvantages. That’s why I support ALL of them. Advances in technology are sometimes random, so one or two will have major advances that we just don’t know about yet. and until we try, we won’t have those major advances.
Coal – plentiful but dirty
Oil – high energy, but limited
Nuclear – most energetic, but nearly impossible to dispose
Solar, Wind, – free after initial investment, but useless at times on the whims of weather
Geothermal – more dependable natural energy, but too rare for wide use
Biomass- good for recycling, but wide use is limited.
Fusion- energy of the future, but the future keeps looking farther and farther away.
Do you have a preference?
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
10:16 pm
“I want Sarah to run in 2012, hopefully as the candidate of an autonomous Tea Party.”
Palin is unelectable, kinda like Hillary who the main stream media threw under the bus for President Obama.
But it is a movement, and the howling from the left over it speaks volumes.
theyeshaveit
April 26th, 2010
10:18 pm
Here’s my idea for a Michele Bachman button. graphic element: Sarah winking atcha with Michele at her side Headcopy: “I Back Bachman!”
Kamchak
April 26th, 2010
10:21 pm
But it is a movement, and the howling from the left over it speaks volumes.
Oh joy—stinky cheese to accompany non-existent whine.
theyeshaveit
April 26th, 2010
10:21 pm
Freeman, it is the same kind of howling I heard in the movie theaters during a Tom and Jerry cartoon.
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
10:25 pm
“Nuclear – most energetic, but nearly impossible to dispose”
LD–I’ve always believed that the only safe place for radioactive waste is in outer space, but I’ve never heard any discussion of it. That seems a lot safer than simply burying it in the ground where it will remain a danger to living beings for eons to come. I realize there is some risk in the case of a rocket blowing up before exiting the atmosphere, not sure how that could be prevented. Any thoughts?
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
10:29 pm
Freeman,
“Palin is unelectable, kinda like Hillary who the main stream media threw under the bus for President Obama. ”
This just hits it for me…not Tina Fey, but Amy Poehler as Hillary Clinton.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/palin-hillary-open/656281/
I swear this is looking into Clinton’s mind…
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
10:33 pm
“Oh joy—stinky cheese to accompany non-existent whine.”
Kamchak: then stop whining about the movement (and Palin). But the Left can’t do that, can they?
“Freeman, it is the same kind of howling I heard in the movie theaters during a Tom and Jerry cartoon.”
theyeshaveit: cartoons are great. For kids. Unfortunately the road the Left is taking this nation isn’t so funny and certainly no cartoon.
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
10:35 pm
“Palin is unelectable, kinda like Hillary who the main stream media threw under the bus for President Obama.”
To be fair, Freeman, I think there was plenty of left-over animus from the press toward Hillary from the Clinton White House days. From what I remember, as well-loved as Bill was, she was as equally despised. I still think that Obama won primarily on the “empty slate” factor. Due to the lack of an actual track record, people were able to fill-in-the-blanks with imagined positives which gave him the benefit of the doubt. As old and as washed up as he was/is, I still think McCain would make a better Prez than Obama.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
10:37 pm
Jewcowboy: Fey is brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Great link!
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
10:38 pm
“cartoons are great. For kids. Unfortunately the road the Left is taking this nation isn’t so funny and certainly no cartoon.”
Freeman–If you’re looking for some intelligent Lib debate, you may have to wait for morning.
Kamchak
April 26th, 2010
10:38 pm
Kamchak: then stop whining about the movement (and Palin). But the Left can’t do that, can they?
As many have pointed out to you—what you’re hearing is not whining it’s laughter.
getalife
April 26th, 2010
10:40 pm
“Any more questions?”
Yes, I am looking for the tea party position on financial reform?
@@
April 26th, 2010
10:41 pm
LD:
Spreading the luv to all the above. Believe it or not I read about endless alternatives. Little organisms that eat C02, some sort of proposal that transport energy directly from the sun to earth. I’m guessing the transmission line may present problems for satellites.
I did like the underwater turbines. They’d probably suck in all the plankton though causing whale sharks to wash ashore due to starvation.
I’m just hazarding guesses here.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
10:42 pm
Bruno,
My thoughts: Rail Gun!
You have an electromagentically accelerated projectile filled with the radioactive material. No propellants to explode accidentally. But there is the difficulty in getting to hypersonic speeds from the ground. You basically have a “re-entry” type event as the projectile starts from the ground and into the upper atmosphere. You just want the projectile strong enough not to burn up in the atmosphere, or anywhere near earth.
Plus, you want to aim carefully so that it falls into the sun, because if you miss, it will just go into orbit which could bring it right back out to Earth’s orbit.
A ten mile long rail gun shooting a ton or so at a time can take care of the waste pretty readily.
Otherwise, the only other option is to wait until technology finds a way to “de-radioactivate” the material, because burying it for 10,000 years will have archeologists in 5000 years misunderstanding the glyphs on the cave, and exploring.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
10:44 pm
Bruno – Hillary made enemies early on during the Clinton White House. If anyone else ran on Obama’s non-record credentials for president, the stuff would have hit the fan. To this day there is not one negative story on this administration and its policies.
As far as McCain, he was thrown under the bus as being an “old white man” by the youth and first timer voters, who essentially elected Obama. Obama ran as a moderate and that’s what got him elected. Bill Clinton by all sense and purposes compared to this president *was* a moderate. And that says a lot.
AmVet
April 26th, 2010
10:45 pm
“As old and as washed up as he was/is, I still think McCain would make a better Prez than Obama.”
B, had not my first option been available, I would have voted for him before Obama.
For all us drowned rock rats at Chastain the other night.
It’s no secret…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSShHKifqlY
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
10:46 pm
Bruno,
“I still think that Obama won primarily on the “empty slate” factor.”
I would certainly agree…
“As old and as washed up as he was/is, I still think McCain would make a better Prez than Obama.”
On this we shall disagree…I was a firm believer in Clinton, but given the choice between Obama and McCain to me there was no choice. And the funny thing is, even as liberal as I am, if McCain had gone another direction in his VP choice he would have been in the running for my vote.
By choosing Palin, I saw it another pure Rovian political move rather than finding the best person for the job.
@@
April 26th, 2010
10:48 pm
BS on cowboy.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
10:49 pm
Freeman,
“To this day there is not one negative story on this administration and its policies.”
Exactly what, then, do you consider negative?
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
10:50 pm
@@,
As much as you stalk me…you don’t know me.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
10:51 pm
@@,
The little organisms that eat CO2 – just to get rid of it, or to create energy too? If just to get rid of CO2, I feel that the law of unintended consequences will take over and cause a different atmospheric imbalance.
Space created energy is highly efficient, and there’s a couple ways to get it to earth. Google “Space elevator” for one solution, the other solution is to beam it down, but if it’s in the form of X-rays that need to be beamed to Earth to collection stations, I see a couple problems. If a solar flare jiggles the spacebound energy beam, the beam may get off-target, and shoot a nearby city.
Underwater turbines shouldn’t affect the plankton, they’re too small to gum up the works. It’s the bigger fish, dolphins, and sticky barnacle type organisms that cause more harm. . er, that could get harmed.
getalife
April 26th, 2010
10:51 pm
The banks could not trust McUsetobeamaverick and especially Hillary after trying to impeach her husband.
They chose the right candidate.
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
10:52 pm
“Little organisms that eat C02, some sort of proposal that transport energy directly from the sun to earth.”
Though man is often loathe to admit it, Mother Nature’s schemes are typically far more clean, clever, and efficient than anything we can invent.
One energy potential that is still waiting to be tapped is the temperature differential that exists in the ocean. Some substances will generate an electrical flow due to this difference, the so-called thermoelectric effect. Unfortunately it is not a strong flow which makes it impractical for large-scale electric production. At the same time the energy source is huge when you consider the size of the ocean, and it creates no harmful byproducts. Far better than burning or blowing up stuff.
AmVet
April 26th, 2010
10:52 pm
“…even as liberal as I am, if McCain had gone another direction in his VP choice he would have been in the running for my vote.”
jc, your sentiment must have been played out a million times from sea to shining sea. I think the mulatto juggernaut was unbeatable in 2008.
And at first I thought she was a shrewd choice. But after watching her for a few weeks it was obvious she was, to be gracious about it, not ready for prime time.
So McCain’s odd choice turned an already certain loss into an electoral college rout…
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
10:54 pm
“Exactly what, then, do you consider negative?”
Uhm, how about deficit spending, unemployment rates, and continuing Bush’s “illegal” wiretapping for starters that the media pummeled us with under that administration?
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
10:56 pm
Freeman,
“As far as McCain, he was thrown under the bus as being an “old white man” by the youth and first timer voters, who essentially elected Obama.”
McCain was 72 years old in 2008 vs. Obama’s 46. Face it…to a 22 year old a 46 year old is ancient…a 72 year old is someone who offers you butterscotch candies and goes to the Piccadilly for dinner at 4.30….
@@
April 26th, 2010
10:57 pm
cowboy:
The only time that I even read you is when your post is addressed to me. Aside from the 10:48 I rarely acknowledge your presence. You on the other hand…
Chances are if you didn’t respond to my posts we’d never cross paths. You leftists are funny that way. You always need to command the board…sitting in wait with nuthin’ to do.
Buona notte, Jack
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
11:00 pm
“The banks could not trust McUsetobeamaverick and especially Hillary after trying to impeach her husband”
Yeah, that same “maverick” that wanted to increase Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac regulations circa 2003 that Barney Frank and others wanted nothing to do with. Which was the catalyst of the financial meltdown.
And the last time I checked, lying under oath was worthy of impeachment. Sex issue or not. And he was impeached.
I’d still take Bill Clinton over this current clueless president any day however.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
11:02 pm
“to a 22 year old a 46 year old is ancient…a 72 year old is someone who offers you butterscotch candies and goes to the Piccadilly for dinner at 4.30″
Yeah I know. I was 22 once. I thought I knew everything at that age as well. I also considered my WWII vet grandfather “old” and never listened to him…until he was gone.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
11:02 pm
Freeman,
There are plenty of negative news stories about those subjects…
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
11:03 pm
“My thoughts: Rail Gun!”
LD–Interesting idea. Shouldn’t be too hard to hit the sun.
“because burying it for 10,000 years will have archeologists in 5000 years misunderstanding the glyphs on the cave, and exploring.”
Unfortunately, the half-life of Plutonium-239 is 24,000 years. Then only half of it is gone. I’m not convinced that concrete containers, however thick, are going to hold up hundreds of thousands of years. Burying it that way meets the definition of a sin in my book.
@@
April 26th, 2010
11:07 pm
LD:
The little organisms produce octane.
Goodnight to you too.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
11:10 pm
@@,
“You always need to command the board…sitting in wait with nuthin’ to do.”
Funny…I don’t remember me telling all the people on here they needed to say something about the 11 missing workers…hmmm.
“Haven’t heard the first leftist, here, mention them though.”
“Not a passing thought, unless of course….”
“Not one word from jay since the tragedy. Not one expression of concern from you leftists. “
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
11:14 pm
“As far as McCain, he was thrown under the bus as being an “old white man” by the youth and first timer voters”
Well, to be honest, Freeman, there is some truth in that. His best days were clearly behind him, and I’m speaking as a supporter. My opinion is that the Republicans kind of pulled a “Bob Dole” in that regard–he became the heir apparent by default in a year when the negative backlash from the preceding administration almost guaranteed defeat from the outset.
“But after watching her for a few weeks it was obvious she was, to be gracious about it, not ready for prime time.”
jc and AmVet–I full agree, as I believe any other honest person should. I’m still puzzled by those who think she still has a place at the table. And jc, you are excluded from my 10:38 comment–that is when you’re not going for the easy slander.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
11:17 pm
Bruno,
As dangerous as Plutionium-239 is, and other radioactive materials, these amounts are miniscule compared to the amount of weakly radioactive bi-products. Clothes, containers, waste water, concrete, and other bi-products are also in need of disposal. These things will also be radioactive for a very long time.
If only Apple could create a “de-radioactivate” app. . .
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
April 26th, 2010
11:24 pm
It’s like a plane crash, they happen from time to time. Do we stop flying? But, that doesn’t mean we should give up on drilling in the US. Why be held hostage by the middle east? DRILL BABY DRILL!
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
11:24 pm
“These things will also be radioactive for a very long time.”
Certainly, hope I didn’t imply that the problem was limited to P-239. To my “engineering mind”, nuclear fission, and even fusion, come across as messy solutions to energy production. The vast energy of the ocean seems so much more tranquil to me. That is where I’m placing my hope, to exploit the relatively unlimited and renewable heat sink that comprise nearly 70% of the surface of the planet.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
11:24 pm
Bruno,
“I full agree, as I believe any other honest person should”
Especially when he could have tapped women such as Kay Bailey Hutchison, Elizabeth Dole or even Condoleezza Rice (though Rice might have been a bit of liability as well).
All intelligent, proven politicians who happen to be women who could have filled the vacuum many women felt Clinton left.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
11:26 pm
“t’s like a plane crash, they happen from time to time. Do we stop flying? ”
We have the NTSB investigate it, we learn from it, and we pass AD’s and/or regulation so we never let it happen again if it is a plane crash…
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
11:29 pm
Bruno,
Plus Condi already had the wardrobe…
http://badattitudes.com/MT/archives/RiceBoots.jpg
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
April 26th, 2010
11:33 pm
jewcowboy
What do you mean “we never let it happen again”? Plane crashes happen every year. You can’t stop them, pilot error, birds, old planes, terrorists.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
11:33 pm
Bruno,
I understood you used Plutonium as an example for the half-life numbers. That’s one of those things I don’t keep in my head. (gotta look it up) But most people just think we need to get rid of the left over Uranium, Plutonium, and daughter elements. I was introducing that, along with stuff most people don’t think about (but since you know the half-life of Plutonium, I figured you knew that part as well).
So for each ton of highly radioactive waste, there’s probably 100 tons of lowly radioactive waste.
(extremely round numbers, could be 10 times, could be 1000, I just don’t know for sure)
@@,
little organisms that create octane out of CO2 is pretty awesome. That rings a bell from the Discovery channel or somewhere. but it sounds like you need huge huge huge organism farms to create enough methane to match a moderate natural gas well.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
11:36 pm
“here are plenty of negative news stories about those subjects…”
Jewcowboy: Where?
“My opinion is that the Republicans kind of pulled a “Bob Dole” in that regard–he became the heir apparent by default in a year when the negative backlash from the preceding administration almost guaranteed defeat from the outset. ”
Actually McCain was labeled a RINO and a lot of conservatives either sat the election out or held their noses and voted for him. That’s the fact. And of course that Palin situation didn’t help. Look no further than his current standing in Arizona and the Republican challenger for his Senate seat.
“We have the NTSB investigate it, we learn from it, and we pass AD’s and/or regulation so we never let it happen again if it is a plane crash…”
jewcowboy: yet plane crashes continue to happen like that Delta ASA Connection CRJ-200 takeoff crash in Kentucky several years ago where both pilots didn’t get that they were on a 3,000 foot runway instead of the main 5000+ runway due to construction.
And then we have mechanical failures and tails snapping off like the America Airlines Airbus A300 crash in Queens NY.
Freeman
April 26th, 2010
11:39 pm
“Plane crashes happen every year. You can’t stop them, pilot error, birds, old planes, terrorists.”
Dude. Don’t you realize that the FAA is supposed to stop birds from flying into jet engines and prevent a rivet from popping out of an engine mount?
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
11:41 pm
“Plus Condi already had the wardrobe…”
Don’t know your take on it, considering your preferences are different from mine, but I’m betting Condi might be a hot roll in the hay.
“That’s one of those things I don’t keep in my head. (gotta look it up)”
LOL–Can’t claim to know it by heart, but I did recall that it was greater than 10,000 years which was what motivated me to recheck:
http://www.wagingpeace.org/menu/issues/nuclear-energy-&-waste/nuclear-energy-fact-sheet.htm
Did you attend a science college? You seem very comfortable discussing technical issues.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
11:44 pm
Freeman,
“Actually McCain was labeled a RINO”
I feel that there was a national backlash against Bush/Cheney, and McCain was the most outspoken about it, so he received the nomination from the majority of Republicans who felt the dismayed at the direction the party was taking. McCain was aiming at the center, when everyone else was running as far right as they could. Everyone else split their vote, while McCain took the majority.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
11:45 pm
mmm,
“What do you mean “we never let it happen again”?
In Sept. 1963 SwissAir flight SR306 took off from Zurich in fog to Rome and crashed 19 miles after takeoff…the reason: the pilots used the engines to dissipate the fog on the runway leading to the brakes over heating and causing the tires to catch fire after the plane took off…that has never happened since 1963…
That is what I mean by never…investigate…find the cause…and make it so this will not happen again.
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
11:46 pm
“Actually McCain was labeled a RINO and a lot of conservatives either sat the election out or held their noses and voted for him. That’s the fact.”
I don’t have any numbers, but I think the Repubs came out in decent numbers. What was different this time was the overwhelming Democratic turnout. Young people and “minorities” turned out in record numbers.
Freeman and Logical Dude–I don’t know if both of you are new here, but I sincerely hope you come back and contribute again. I get a lot out of both of your posts, a refreshing change from the insult-a-second Libs who dominate the board with their stupid quips.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
11:47 pm
Bruno,
“Did you attend a science college?”
Well, the University of Alabama, if that counts LOL
Studied Aerospace Engineering before transferring over to Physics & Astronomy. (BS)
So, yes, I know a little more than the average bear about radioactivity and shooting stuff into space.
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
11:49 pm
Alright, jc, here’s a song dedication your way. Hope it’s associated with a good memory in some way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSaC-YbSDpo
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
April 26th, 2010
11:49 pm
jewcowboy
I’m not sure the 50 year plane is still in service, but I’m fine with that, however accidents will ALWAYS happen.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
11:52 pm
Freeman,
“And then we have mechanical failures and tails snapping off like the America Airlines Airbus A300 crash in Queens NY.”
And has that happened since? No, because the NTSB investigated…found the pilot of Flight 587 overused the rudder controls contrary to specs causing the failure. AA changed their pilot simulation training based on the NTSB’s finding…and no more A300’s from AA falling from the sky due to rudder damage.
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
11:52 pm
“Studied Aerospace Engineering before transferring over to Physics & Astronomy.”
Did you make a career out of it? For me, science is primarily a hobby. I attended a school called Harvey Mudd College in Claremont, CA in the late 70s, but left to pursue a career in health care.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
April 26th, 2010
11:53 pm
Freeman
Dude. Don’t you realize that the FAA is supposed to stop birds from flying into jet engines and prevent a rivet from popping out of an engine mount?
Well, I guess they do a piss poor job, just like most government run
entities.
Logical Dude
April 26th, 2010
11:54 pm
Bruno,
I’m not new here, but since I work, I usually don’t get to post during the day. Most times, when I post, I’m wayyyy at the bottom, so I’m not sure how many people see the posts.
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
11:55 pm
Bruno @ 11.49,
nice…for you and Logical Dude:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_tVZFZ5PR4
jewcowboy
April 26th, 2010
11:57 pm
mmm,
“I’m not sure the 50 year plane is still in service, but I’m fine with that, however accidents will ALWAYS happen.”
Yes they will…just make sure they don’t happen the same way twice.
Bruno
April 26th, 2010
11:58 pm
On the Physics side, I’ve got several books by Richard Feynman on my shelves along with “The Road To Reality” by Roger Penrose. I bought a few Hawkings books out of curiosity, but don’t really care for his writing style. For Astronomy, I rely on several courses from the Teaching Company including a nice one from Alex Filippenko. Highly recommended unless you are very advanced.
Logical Dude
April 27th, 2010
12:03 am
Jewcowboy, LOL thanks for that!
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
April 27th, 2010
12:04 am
jewcowboy
Yeah, like taking off your shoes at the airport and scanning 90 year old ladies. I’m for some good old fashioned profiling. When black and white males and females start blowing up planes, get back with me.
Bruno
April 27th, 2010
12:04 am
“nice…for you and Logical Dude”
LOL–It might sound cruel, but one of the reasons I eschewed a career in science is due to all the weird people you end up hanging around with. No offense to any weird people on board tonight, of course.
jewcowboy
April 27th, 2010
12:05 am
Freeman,
“Dude. Don’t you realize that the FAA is supposed to stop birds from flying into jet engines and prevent a rivet from popping out of an engine mount?”
Yes they are…you should check out what they use at JFK to scare away geese…interesting read by the way:
http://www.amazon.com/Airport-James-Kaplan/dp/0688149545
And, yes, they do make sure the oldest fleet of planes in the western world keeps the rivets from popping…and do an amazing job at considering they chronically understaffed and over burdened…
jewcowboy
April 27th, 2010
12:07 am
mmm,
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/03/24/terrorists-use-explosives-breast-implants-crash-planes-experts-warn/
Bruno
April 27th, 2010
12:08 am
Actually, while at HMC, this song came out and seemed to describe the scene well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8rUe1E0olY
One of my classmates was Tony Li, who made CISCO billions of dollars:
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=53523
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
April 27th, 2010
12:13 am
jewcowboy
Like I said, show me the black or white male or female terrorist first.
jewcowboy
April 27th, 2010
12:17 am
mmm,
“Like I said, show me the black or white male or female terrorist first.”
Here you go:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/10/colleen-larose-jihad-jane-charges
jewcowboy
April 27th, 2010
12:18 am
mmm
And here is another:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
jewcowboy
April 27th, 2010
12:21 am
mmm,
And another:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-6221055-504083.html
Freeman
April 27th, 2010
12:21 am
“And has that happened since? No, because the NTSB investigated…found the pilot of Flight 587 overused the rudder controls contrary to specs causing the failure. ”
Well that’s obvious jewcowboy. I take note that you didn’t have much to say about that pilot error in Kentucky. But your point is duly noted….like that American Airlines DC-10 crash in Chicago in the late ’70s where an engine maintenance snafu caused the left engine to rip away on takeoff and kill the slats. Or that United DC-10 Sioux City crash landing after engine two had an unconstrained engine failure and blew out the hydraulics.
Amazing how it takes a crash to learn, no?
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
April 27th, 2010
12:22 am
jewcowboy
Timothy McVeigh WASN’T on a plane, neither was David Koresh.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
April 27th, 2010
12:26 am
jewcowboy
You are really reaching – I don’t believe Joe Stack went thru airport security.
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jewcowboy
April 27th, 2010
12:27 am
Freeman,
“like that American Airlines DC-10 crash in Chicago in the late ’70s”
That crash and the one in Paris, both avoidable, killed off an amazing and revolutionary aircraft.
jewcowboy
April 27th, 2010
12:29 am
mmm,
“jewcowboy
Like I said, show me the black or white male or female terrorist first.”
You said to show you a white or black male or female terrorist. I did. All terrorists are not Arab.
Bruno
April 27th, 2010
12:30 am
Later, guys.
jewcowboy
April 27th, 2010
12:31 am
mmm,
“When black and white males and females start blowing up planes, get back with me.”
Or are for advocating letting black and white go through minimal security until one does blow up an aircraft?
jewcowboy
April 27th, 2010
12:32 am
Bruno,
Later Bruno…nice chatting with you. I’m out as well.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
April 27th, 2010
12:32 am
jewcowboy
No, but the ones bringing down the planes sure are – that was MY point. I said airports shold profile.
I believe the government already watches the Timothy McVeigh’s of the world.
Freeman
April 27th, 2010
12:56 am
‘That crash and the one in Paris, both avoidable, killed off an amazing and revolutionary aircraft.”
My uncle flew both the DC-10 and it’s successor the MD-11. It had design flaws from the beginning and there’s a reason why airlines like Delta dumped the MD-11. It was sketchy on landing flares due to the tail design, and that FexEd crash in Tokyo proved how unforgiving it was on a bad day in the office.
Been fun. G’nite.
Freeman
April 27th, 2010
1:04 am
FexEd? No. FedEx.
vince neil
April 27th, 2010
4:07 am
oil is not man made and it comes out of the ground naturally in many places…..and to all you smug stupid prius driving, cloth bag shopping at Publix hippies……….what happens to the batteries in your stupid hybrids after 100k miles?…..Just sayin here!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 27th, 2010
5:03 am
In reality, the bill changes little in the way the House does business. For example, it places no limit on how much lobbyists can spend courting their friends in elective office. Three-hundred-dollar meals, $200 golf rounds, free tickets to the Masters and other sporting events — it’s all still legal. -Bookman
So is he talking about obozo or the Georgia state legislature?
Just sayin….
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 27th, 2010
6:03 am
Why do the socialists lie so much?-
But when Mr. Whitacre says GM has paid back the bailout money in full, he means not the entire $49.5 billion–the loan and the equity. In fact, he avoids all mention of that figure in his column. He means only the $6.7 billion loan amount.
Oh yeah, because the truth kills them, just sayin….
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 27th, 2010
6:17 am
Yet precisely because Stewart is viewed as the Lion of the Liberal Media, his wimpy response to an actual threat from a group presenting itself as just one more face of Islamic terror serves as a reminder of exactly why so many millions of Americans have come to mistrust President Obama or in fact any liberal when it comes to responding to America’s enemies. After all the touchy-feely Obama outreach to Iran — Mahmoud Ahmadinejad just continues to build his nuclear bombs anyway. Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry travel to Syria to make nice — but long range Scud missiles will go to Hezbollah anyway. And so on. Electing Obama was presented as the change that would make precisely this kind of threat to South Park go away. Oops.
There is nothing new here, really. Same thin soup, different bowl. Neville Chamberlain hosts The Daily Show. -AmSpec
Boo!, cowards.
There ain't no hypocrites around here, no sir.
April 27th, 2010
6:30 am
a refreshing change from the insult-a-second Libs who dominate the board with their stupid quips
Uh huh.
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2010
6:52 am
… Both companies failed to provide a competent crew, failed to properly supervise its employees and failed to provide Rushto with a safe place to work, according to the complaint filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana. The lawsuit also names oil-services giant Halliburton as a defendant, claiming that the company “prior to the explosion, was engaged in cementing operations of the well and well cap and, upon information and belief, improperly and negligently performed these duties, which was a cause of the explosion… “
Florida Chamber of Commerce
April 27th, 2010
7:01 am
Come visit Destin’s beautiful black sands beaches. And take home a free sample while you’re at it.
USinUK
April 27th, 2010
7:05 am
totally off-topic, but in response to the top story about the kid who died in the back of the car …
… how many times to we have to read these stories before we stiffen the penalties against these parents??? this is criminal negligence. period. and I’m sick of reading about kids baking to death because their parents “forgot they were in the back seat”
BP executive
April 27th, 2010
7:06 am
Do we still have those commercials with the animals playing happily around our facilities? We might need to start showing those more. A lot more. We’ve got an image to maintain. Is Sarah Palin available to do an ad for us.
Normal
April 27th, 2010
7:08 am
AmSpec…
Louisiana Real Estate Agent
April 27th, 2010
7:10 am
Prime sites for oil refineries for sale. Readily available raw materials for your operation. You can literally walk right out the door and scoop it up. Free processing lessons available from Canada’s tar sands industry. Co-sponsored by Exxon, a world-renowned expert in the field.
Normal
April 27th, 2010
7:14 am
Soory about the above, folks…Whiner is just too funny in the mortning.
Happy, happy Tuesday to all y’all…
USinUK
April 27th, 2010
7:05 am
I agree totally. These parents should be publically horsewhipped.
Does this kind of thing go on much across the pond?
Normal
April 27th, 2010
7:16 am
BP executive,
Put Sarah in a red, white and blue bikini, and have her do a pole dance on a rig with an oily drill post…
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2010
7:17 am
Stewart is viewed as the Lion of the Liberal Media
I had no idea that a cheezy little cable-tv comedy sketch show had right wingers so terrified.
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2010
7:19 am
Or, put another way:
STEWART: You’re on CNN. The show that leads into me is puppets making crank phone calls.
Louisiana Real Estate Agent
April 27th, 2010
7:20 am
Put Sarah in a red, white and blue bikini, and have her do a pole dance on a rig with an oily drill post…
Do you mind if we use that idea too. We need something to boost real estate sales down here. Times are tough and people are resorting to all sorts of “activities” just to make ends meet.
TaxPayer
April 27th, 2010
7:22 am
Jon Stewart is the man. THE one true source of fair and balanced reporting on cable. That’s what has the FOXy people so skeered.
USinUK
April 27th, 2010
7:29 am
Jon Stewart — when he criticizes Obama, he’s credible … when he criticizes the GOP, he’s the “Lion of the Liberal Media”
(of course, the fact that he’s on Comedy Central … let me say that again … COMEDY CENTRAL … seems to elude them)
Normal – we don’t get the high temps here that you do in the States – I can’t remember reading of situations like this since I’ve been here (4 years on Sat)
Soothsayer
April 27th, 2010
7:30 am
What could possibly go wrong?
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2010
7:31 am
THE one true source of fair and balanced reporting on cable.
While I too enjoy this ensemble’s work, I respectfully disagree.
TDS is not tasked with being “fair and balanced” (although I think they often achieve a laudable degree of fairness when they skewer left- and right-wing stupidity). TDS is tasked with making people laugh. Period.
And another thing–the program’s primary focus is not politicians–it is how politicians (and other newsmakers) are shaped by the media. Essentially, TDS makes fun of TeeVee news. That’s it.
That’s the entire show, that is its entire agenda.
Yes, it has become popular enough that The Daily Show actually becomes the story at times and the comedy becomes sufficiently meta that it seems as if it’s bigger than that. But it isn’t; if it ever became so full of itself that it was, truly, abut more than its actual mission, it would cease to be funny.
(I realize this is about the 27th time I’ve made some variant of this point, but I feel it needs to be said now and again.)
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2010
7:32 am
(4 years on Sat)
Do you celebrate, or quietly mourn? (I hope it’s the former…)
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin....
April 27th, 2010
7:32 am
Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that the liberal tendency to be brave in the face of little old church ladies while cowering in fear of Muslim fanatics extends across all of the dummycrat legions, with Jon Stewart being your spineless representative, um, just sayin…
USinUK
April 27th, 2010
7:34 am
dB – this time of year, I soooooo miss the dogwoods and azaleas …
USinUK
April 27th, 2010
7:37 am
whiner (and his ilk) seem to confuse “Orange Alert!! Orange Alert! DefCon PoopyPants!! Duct Tape and Plastic Sheeting!!” with courage …
Rightwing Troll
April 27th, 2010
7:41 am
How many “rightists” here have openly mourned for those poor brave oil welling souls in the gulf?
Show of hands? Anybody? Beuller?…
Oh wait, I see @@ was “mourning” thier losses three posts before she started denigrating “leftists” for not mourning them…
Highly suspect… more Crocodile tears… again….
Outhouse GoKart
April 27th, 2010
7:43 am
Accidents are gonna happen. BP will do whats right to clean up the oil. I have faith in them.
Normal
April 27th, 2010
7:44 am
Whiner JUST has to be a sarcasm expert. He really can’t believe what he’s saying. He’s got to be a right wing version of Scrooge McDuck.
Rightwing Troll
April 27th, 2010
7:46 am
Andy talking about bravery… hehe… Then original porch dog who hides under the porch and barks all day, the man who sees fear in every person who’s skin color contains a bit of pigment, the man so full of false bravado he would shoot any strange mexican or Barney Frank on sight (no questions asked), talking about bravery. (more like he’s run screaming into the night at the sight of Bawney)
Remember the video of the tee nuts protesting, Andy was the guy throwing dollars at the other guy in a wheelchair, and here he stands yelling something about Jon Stewart and church ladies and bravery…
Normal
April 27th, 2010
7:46 am
Anybody mourn this guy?
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/homeless-good-samaritan-left-495303.html
The Carnivore
April 27th, 2010
7:47 am
1800 square miles? Write an article when it gets to 100,000 square miles, not now.
Rightwing Troll
April 27th, 2010
7:48 am
BP will do what’s right to clean it up enough to keep the EPA off thier backs. The government and insurance companies will have to handle the rest.
Soothsayer
April 27th, 2010
7:48 am
Oil leaking from sunken rig spreads north
Normal
April 27th, 2010
7:48 am
Whiner’s theme song is “Loony Tunes”.
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2010
7:48 am
Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong
Ain’t enough hours in the day for that, Andy.
USinUK
April 27th, 2010
7:52 am
Normal – 7:44 – I thought that was Mallard Filmore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mallard_Fillmore
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2010
7:52 am
@@ was “mourning” their losses three posts before she started denigrating “leftists” for not mourning them…
I was going to let that be, but her comment was especially bizarre given that the very first comment on this thread was from AmVet specifically mourning the human loss.
Anyway, Loseranna sheets upstairs.
stands for decibels
April 27th, 2010
7:53 am
one last thing:
I thought that was Mallard Filmore
Naw, Whiner and Scrooge McDuck are occasionally funny.
Sarah
April 27th, 2010
7:54 am
I’m just gonna have to throw me a hissy fit and go shoot me some more caribou if one more person asks me how that deregulation thingy is going. You betcha.
Soothsayer
April 27th, 2010
7:56 am
NASA satellite image reveals massive oil spill>
A newly released NASA satellite image reveals oil leaking from the BP oil rig that sank after it exploded April 20, 2010. The explosion killed 11 workers.
The images, captured on April 25 by the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Aqua satellite and the Advanced Land Imager on NASA’s Earth Observing-1 (EO-1) satellite, show a large oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico off the coast of Louisiana and Mississippi. An estimated 42,000 gallons of oil are leaking per day into the Gulf.
Scroll down to the photograph.
Soothsayer
April 27th, 2010
7:59 am
Here is a great photo to help you put this into perspective. Notice how the slick is trending toward the N.E. corner of the Gulf. Unfortunately this is where the most popular Florida beaches are.
Soothsayer
April 27th, 2010
8:04 am
Here’s a photo of the actual oil leaking from the riser.
Chris Broe
April 27th, 2010
8:50 am
Kill the Spill?
TnGelding
April 27th, 2010
10:01 am
It couldn’t have happened at a worse time, just when some sanity was being introduced into energy policy. But I’ve walked on oil stained beaches, and it isn’t pleasant. I’m very conflicted on off-shore drilling.
thebob.bob
April 27th, 2010
12:45 pm
Where’s Sarah Palin? Where are the Virginian Republicans and Tea Party members chanting, Drill baby, drill!!
Conservation. Increase the gas tax to pay for alternative, more efficient transportation, stop subsidizing the oil companies. Or pick tar balls off your feet at the beach, shovel up the dead, oiled carcasses of poisoned sea life and kiss your shellfish goodbye. Choose.
Karlin Barlin
April 28th, 2010
11:50 am
Quote from above:
“So yes, environmentalists and east and west coast Democrats will point to this and say “halt.”
But I’ll bet they won’t offer any alternatives.”
Are you SERIOUS? We green types have been SHOUTING for investments in renewable energy and improved efficiency where we use energy. Together those WILL supply half of America’s energy needs within 10 years if we put the kind of investment into renewable as are going into oil drilling.
The $Billion offshore wells, the $Trillion oil wars, and a dozen $100 Million clean ups – putting that kind of money into renewables would cover half of America’s energy needs.
AND THEN… renewable energy installations provide better returns over the lifetime operation, but nobody wants to talk about that economic ADVANTAGE of renewable energy.
If there is a global catastrophe such as war or economic collapse, any nation will be better off having more renewable energy installation that will allways be there to provide precious electricity [whereas oil could be difficult to keep flowing]
bill
May 1st, 2010
12:12 pm
why not put napalm on the oil as it will burn hotter.
Andrew
May 3rd, 2010
4:06 pm
This is stupid and deff. should have never happend!!