“Arizona is “turning into a punch line,” one of the state’s newspapers reported Friday after surveying the latest global commentary about the state featuring choice phrases such as “wingnut paradise,” “nuttiest legislative body,” “America’s dumbest state,” and “blazing a trail into the fringe.”
…Even some of the state’s own politicians have begun referring to Arizona as a “laughingstock.”
…The sources of derision?
There was the “birther” bill approved by the Arizona House this week requiring presidential candidates to prove their citizenship by displaying birth certificates.
There’s an immigration measure that effectively converts the state’s police departments into immigration officers, mandating that they stop and question people they suspect of being undocumented immigrants.
And there’s the new gun law that allows anyone besides convicted felons to carry concealed weapons without registration or background checks.
Finally, for good measure, there’s the sideshow Republican Senate primary starring J.D. Hayworth, a serious challenger to Sen. John McCain, and his now-famous observation that same sex marriage laws would lead to men marrying horses….
Yeah, but is the Arizona Legislature passing a bill to make it a misdemeanor to implant microchips in a human being against his or her will? Do they have an ethically bankrupt John Oxendine figure leading the GOP race for governor? Did they threaten to secede if Congress passes additional gun-control laws? Are they raising taxes on the poorest of their citizens, cutting billions from their budget while voting to exempt wealthy seniors from income tax?
Shoot, their state government actually helps support mass transit in their biggest cities!! So how crazy could they be?
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GWB
April 25th, 2010
6:37 am
Joel,
Buy your own ticket and quit trying to mooch off of Jay.
Rightwing Troll
April 25th, 2010
6:40 am
Whew! Got fugly in here last night. Even without the porch dog around much… Just goes to show how nasty things can be when you leave a couple “conservatives” alone in the room with no supervision…
When all the Mexicans and Liberals are killed off, who will they hate then? Who will they get to cut thier grass then???
And you folks got it all wrong, Mexicans don’t work for half price, they caught on to that YEARS ago, they’ve been on parity with white folks for a long time now in terms of what they demand to get paid. They keep getting the work because they don’t troll blogs while on other people’s timeclocks, they don’t answer endless numbers of cell phone calls during the work day, they don’t have to come in late because they had to take the dog to the vet, or leave early to see the probation officer. They quietly put thier heads down, and thier shoulders into thier work, then go home for the day and handle thier personal business.
Rightwing Troll
April 25th, 2010
6:48 am
I say we just need to implant all illegals with micro chips, by thier genital areas…
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April 25th, 2010
6:50 am
WASHINGTON — In a move that may derail a comprehensive climate change and energy bill in the Senate, one of the measure’s central architects, Sen. Lindsey Graham, has issued an angry protest over what he says are Democratic plans to give priority to a debate over immigration policy.-Constipation
Aahhh, you hear that, empty headed readers of the Urinal?
It’s the Republican’s fault that Cap’n Tax won’t be sailing through the US economy like some legislative Somolian Pirate, taking hostages and collecting huge ransoms.
You’re welcome, heh.
GWB
April 25th, 2010
7:15 am
No place illustrates progress more than the Cuyahoga River.
Cleveland’s main river used to periodically catch fire. On June 22, 1969, trash and an oil slick ignited. The river burned for half an hour, drawing national attention to water pollution nationwide.
People didn’t swim in the river at the time, and anyone who fell in needed to be checked by a doctor.
“The river bubbled like a cauldron. There were all kinds of chemicals in there, and that was what was bubbling at the bottom,” said Wayne Bratton, a boat captain then and now, and the first president of the Cleveland Harbor Conservation Committee.
Those darned Democrats are just determined to regulate us all to death. How’s an honest Republican expected to make a decent living if they have to abide by regulations! It’s just heart wrenching. Excuse me while I go pray that these people get what they deserve. Won’t you join me, Andy.
GWB
April 25th, 2010
7:27 am
NEW ORLEANS — The Coast Guard discovered Saturday that oil is leaking from the damaged well that fed a massive rig that exploded this week off Louisiana’s coast, while bad weather halted efforts to clean up the mess that threatens the area’s fragile marine ecosystem.
For days, the Coast Guard has said no oil appeared to be escaping from the well head on the ocean floor. Rear Adm. Mary Landry said the leak was a new discovery but could have begun when the rig sank on Thursday, two days after the initial explosion.
What leak! Show me the leak! I don’t see no leak! Those darned Democrats and their “claims”. They cannot prove a thing. They’re such mean and vindictive people. Willing to say anything and to hurt other people that are just trying to make an honest living off the land. Not hurting a soul.
Rightwing Troll
April 25th, 2010
7:28 am
fu$k yeah Andy’ll pray with you GD it, it’s effin sunday afterall… I
GWB
April 25th, 2010
7:30 am
Well, at least Georgia’s leaders won’t have to worry about fighting with Florida over protecting a bunch of stupid mussels much longer. That oil leak will fix that problem as long as the wind blows in the right direction. Let us prey, Sonny.
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April 25th, 2010
7:31 am
Well, well, it’s Urinal versus Constipation this morning-
The Financial Panic of ’08 was primarily the result of bad economic policy. Namely that everyone should own a home.
The financial reform bill working its way through the U.S. Senate doesn’t even address that issue, or the two main institutions that underwrote that policy — Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. -Thomas Oliver, AJC
When even the pinko press can’t get around that fact, it kinda makes you wonder what Big Government socialist harpies Bookman and Queen Pinko have their strings attached to.
The White House, of course.
Tee
April 25th, 2010
7:32 am
Midori I just read Tim Wise, thanks it was good reading.
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April 25th, 2010
7:35 am
Aahhh, the angry, idiotic world of the hole, foam up much, psycho?
GWB
April 25th, 2010
7:39 am
Those darned Democrats. I hear they’re up to no good yet again. It’s just never ending with these folks. Rumor has it that a pack of renegade Democrats in South Carolina want to introduce the “Sanford” bill requiring that all Republicans suspected of doing you know what get implanted with a GPS device just to make sure that they’re “hiking” when they say they’re “hiking”. The nerve. And to think that they would pull such a stunt so close to an election! They have no shame.
GWB
April 25th, 2010
7:51 am
My call for home ownership for everyone, regardless of their ability to pay for it, was a good call. Just look at all the good it did for folks that supported me. People just misunderestimated the good that I was doing at the time. Some folks still do but I don’t know why. Don’t they understand all the good that I done when I signed into law my American Dream Downpayment Act. Bunch of ingrates. Well, let ‘em eat cake for all I care.
Rightwing Troll
April 25th, 2010
7:52 am
“The Financial Panic of ’08 was primarily the result of bad economic policy. Namely that everyone should own a home.”
Too bad the wingnuts had 8 years to do something about it, but all they did was scream HARDER… FASTER…
At least those SC democrats aren’t using phone banks to call SC citizens and tell them that Sanford has an illigitimtae black child…
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April 25th, 2010
7:56 am
Geez, what a laughing stock our little hole is-
Too bad the wingnuts had 8 years to do something about it, but all they did was scream HARDER… FASTER…
That was Bwarney Fwank, The Banking Queen, doing the screaming and you’re right, I don’t think he was hollering about financial reform, just sayin…
eewwwwwwww
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April 25th, 2010
8:02 am
Gee, I wonder ahy the Constipation chose not to publish the story about the Fort Carson atrocities being committed by the government upon our wounded veterans, hmmmmm, let me think, could it be the White House wouldn’t let them?
Chris Broe
April 25th, 2010
8:09 am
It’ll be fun to watch the new Arizona legislative achievements play out in real life. I didn’t think the GOP could alienate any more voters but “are your papers in order?” and “we have ways of making you walk” should do it.
The temptation for gun-slinging coffee drinkers in Arizona to accost racially-profiled stereotypes patronizing Starbucks may prove too great. The right may rely on the supreme court to ratify this new law, I’m sure, but the illegal alien look-alikes probably dont need no stinking judges to defend themselves against unlawful detention or citizen’s arrest.
A perfect storm of vigilantism and caffeine is brewing, and summertime in Arizona could be a tall drink of water. (sorry).
bob
April 25th, 2010
8:17 am
Let’s just open up all the borders and let everyone in that wants in. I’m sure repubs would not like this but the only real important issue is the the world likes us right ? So wouldn’t the world like us better if we open up to all ? And of course this would not be a drain on our funds either would it because these people would not sign up for any freebies would they ?
GWB
April 25th, 2010
8:19 am
Anyone that would make mean and disparaging remarks about our government, especially in these times of war against terrorists, and our fine military and the dedicated people looking after them, is just a… whiner.
TnGelding
April 25th, 2010
8:27 am
Just as crazy as the rest of us. We’re the ones electing these buffoons.
GWB
April 25th, 2010
8:43 am
Coast Guard and company officials estimate that as much as 1,000 barrels – or 42,000 gallons – of oil is leaking each day after studying information from remotely operated vehicles and the size of the oil slick surrounding the blast site. The rainbow-colored sheen of oil stretched 20 miles by 20 miles on Saturday – about 25 times larger than it appeared to be a day earlier, Landry said.
Fortunately, math is on our side in situations such as these. You see, the rate of increase in the diameter of the oil slick in the gulf will decrease with time and we can use that to our advantage when describing it to our mathematically challenged Republican constituency. We can add it to our list of laffers that we’re saving to share with our great grandbushes. hehehe
Rightwing Troll
April 25th, 2010
8:54 am
So lil ol’ Barney Frank bested GWB’s government for 8 years?
That’s one tough queen. No wonder you’re so scared of him and his type…
larry
April 25th, 2010
8:57 am
That was Bwarney Fwank, The Banking Queen, doing the screaming and you’re right, I don’t think he was hollering about financial reform, just sayin…
And he was in the minority party for 6 of those years, so there wasnt much he could do.
NewsFlasher
April 25th, 2010
9:02 am
This just in. A wind mill has exploded and crashed into the ocean off the northeast coast of the United States. Preliminary reports are estimating that nearly 100,000 barrels of wind were spilled. Cleanup teams have been dispatched to recover the turbulent air as quickly as possible.
Rightwing Troll
April 25th, 2010
9:04 am
One effin’ tough queen… I sit up at night on my front porch with my .908 milled hollow point 4 qrain thingys locked-n-loaded, just in case Barney shows up at my door…
@@
April 25th, 2010
9:33 am
Hillbilly & josef:
Watched a program entitled “How the States Got Their Shape” on the History Channel last night. Kept me up waaayyyy past my bedtime.
Interesting…very interesting. Franklin, as in Tennessee, was a state for four short years.
There’s so much I do not know.
@@
April 25th, 2010
9:35 am
NewsFlasher’s 9:02 was funny.
There will always be drilling rigs. The list of things made from petroleum by-products is endless.
NewsFlasher
April 25th, 2010
9:38 am
English was the chief judge of the circuit and had served Georgia for 35 years. He lives in Thomaston and was on Season 4 of the reality television show “Survivor.”
English’s resignation is the second in the Griffin circuit this week.
So much trivia, so little storge space for it all.
gagay
April 25th, 2010
9:47 am
Dusty: The law says they can stop people who look illegal. When the governor was asked by a reporter if she could identify an illegal by their “looks” she said “no”. But…of course, she signed the bill!
NewsFlasher
April 25th, 2010
9:54 am
@@,
If you wish to make light of petroleum byproducts, perhaps you could start with something like this:
TED: Capt. Charles Moore on the seas of plastic.
For some reason, the system will not accept the link but feel free to look it up. It is quite the news flash.
NewsFlasher
April 25th, 2010
9:56 am
NEW ORLEANS — Authorities say a pipeline has spilled 18,000 gallons of crude oil into a canal in a wildlife refuge about 60 miles southeast of New Orleans.
There was no immediate word about the extent of damage at the Delta National Wildlife Refuge.
The Coast Guard says Chevron Pipe Line Co. has closed off the leaking section and investigators are evaluating the spill from a plane.
Hardly worth mentioning.
@@
April 25th, 2010
10:05 am
Flasher:
I’m all too familiar with the “Seas of Plastic”. I’m surprised that environmentally conscious Californians dispose of plastic bottles so irresponsibly. What….is the state not enforcing litter laws? It’s not just plastic…the list of items produced with petroleum is endless. You should check THAT out.
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“We do need comprehensive immigration law in this country but not like this,” said Sen. Chuck Schumer. “This law is mean-spirited and I’m opposed to it.”
Mayor Bloomberg said the law, which takes effect in August, could hurt the country financially because it “sends exactly the wrong message.”–NYDaily
They’ve gottalotta five-star hotels up there that need cleaning.
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April 25th, 2010
10:25 am
I know I’m getting a little cerebral on our shallow thinking liberal friends but that’s nothing new, is it?
And he was in the minority party for 6 of those years, so there wasnt much he could do.
Well, let’s see here, the Repugs are the minority party now and they managed to tie up health “care” for a year and a half, forcing obozo to embark on a kamikaze mission to ram it through, you know, a mind is a terrible thing to waste, just sayin…
Rightwing Troll
April 25th, 2010
10:29 am
Yes but there’s more than one repug, Bawny Fwank is just one lil ol’ effin queen… and for 8 years he had his way with W?…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
April 25th, 2010
11:03 am
If that’s what you daydream about, hole, who am I to argue?
George
April 25th, 2010
11:04 am
Bookman obviously went to a Southeastern Conference school.
Rightwing Troll
April 25th, 2010
11:10 am
Apparently it’s your daydream, not mine.
DirtyDawg
April 25th, 2010
11:22 am
Jay’s point was that when it comes to wingnut-pleasing stuff, the Republican-run Georgia Legislature refuses to be outdone by anybody. As I mentioned in some post or another over the past couple of days, I can see/hear ‘em now -’Ain’t no way we’s gonna let them johnny-come-latelies take our title. I mean just look at that flag, where’d they get that idea, from the Japs I bet.’…and he’s right.
When your Congressmen – Broun, Price, Westmoreland, Gingrey and Kingston (and that doesn’t even include the ethics-rupt Deal) – are seemingly ‘poster-boys’ for making idiotic pronouncements at tea-bagger rallies – yes I said it…if you can determine what you want to call the Democratic Party then I can use this one. After all, that’s the one they started with until somebody mentioned…well, nevermind – you don’t have far to go to retire the award for the most outrageous collection of politicians in captivity.
oldmanrick
April 25th, 2010
11:25 am
What is the problem? if you have to have ID to get food at a food bank, you have about a dozen of them, For food stamps, Yea got that to, Check cashing card for the beer store yep got that, card to ride Marta, yep got that, Ingles, foodmart,Sam Card, yep got all of them. Do you have a picture ID to prove who you are , HELL NO AND I DON”T NEED ONE TO PROVE I AM ME. That is what is wrong with Ga law. They have to many liberal SOBs that don’t want to prove the guilty , guilty. If the are eligal, send them back packing with everything they have. Chargr 50% TO WIRE MONEY OUT OF THIS COUNTRY. tHAT WILL PAY THE TAXES THEY DON’T PAY HERE.
DirtyDawg
April 25th, 2010
11:40 am
Oh yeah, I meant to mention – about the example used of drug-cartelers coming across the border to attack and kidnap American citizens…just what about this ‘law’ is gonna deal with that? I mean these criminals aren’t riding around in broad daylight acting suspicious and just waiting for some ‘damn fine police work patrolman to roll down his window and say, ‘hey’…no, these people come in, strike and make a run for it. No doubt border security needs to be beefed up and potential targets need more security, but it ain’t got nothin’ to do with – are they riding around looking illegal?.
I mean it’s not as if this is anything really new. Seems to me Pancho Villa used to come across the border and rob and pillage – hell, we sent the cavalry after him or something and we’re still dealing with it. The answer involves some sort of ‘immigration reform’ that gives these people an incentive to ‘get on our side of this thing’, pay their own way for health, education and other services, and report those that are jeopardizing the lives of those that are working and obeying the law. Then we’ll have at least some chance of dealing with this mess…not the stupidity of our legislature, the illegal immigration thing.
Freeman
April 25th, 2010
11:44 am
Meanwhile in other news, Americans – including cops and border patrol agents – continue to get slaughtered by illegal immigrants in Arizona. And liberals have the gall to whine about “wingnuts” in Arizona? Pathetic. Even that “rethuglican” (isn’t it so cute how liberals use the English language in a juvenile attempt at an insult?) Lindsay Gramnesty-Graham is pushing back. I love how he puts it here with regards to the Junk Science Bill and an Immigration Bill in the works:
“WASHINGTON – Long-awaited climate change legislation was put on hold by its authors Saturday when a dispute over immigration politics and Senate priorities threatened to unravel a bipartisan effort that took months of work………”Moving forward on immigration — in this hurried, panicked manner — is nothing more than a cynical political ploy,” Graham said. “Let’s be clear, a phony, political effort on immigration today accomplishes nothing but making it exponentially more difficult to address in a serious, comprehensive manner in the future.”
Hurried and panicked. This time for illegal immigration – let’s just call it what it is, mmmkay? Just like everything else the current Democrat liberal regressives have done. Got stimulus? Got health care? Neither of those bills were even entirely read before they were rammed through Congress. Even Queen Pelosi herself stated that the ObamaCare Bill would have to be passed before Americans find out what’s in it.
But back to the climate change thingie, how much longer do we have before the liberal moonbats blame mankind for the Iceland volcano? Well, it’s probably a waiting game like everything else in liberal land. Every summer they whine about so-called man made global warming, but say nary a word in the dead of winter when having to shovel 5 foot snow drifts to get out of their driveway.
Rightwing troll
April 25th, 2010
11:44 am
A fine example of why, exactly, we have nothing to fear from Arizona can be seen in the last couple of posts alone…
midtownguy
April 25th, 2010
12:05 pm
I spent the first half of my post-college career working in Alabama, I have spent the second half in Atlanta. So trust me on this one, Georgia outside Atlanta is even more backward than Alabama. And that is saying a lot.
But it looks like both states have now taken a back seat to Arizona (I know it’s ancient history, but don’t forget the refusal by AZ to celebrate Dr. King’s birthday). So the traveling “most backward state” award has now left the deep south.
Joew
April 25th, 2010
12:11 pm
“And there’s the new gun law that allows anyone besides convicted felons to carry concealed weapons without registration or background checks.”
Yep, as per the 2nd Amend and the intentions of the Founding Fathers. Also, the way it has been for the majority of the time in this country. I’m constantly amazed at the ignorance of our history and Constitution displayed everyday, like in the quote above….
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 25th, 2010
12:15 pm
@@
I saw that show, too. It was interesting, although, I think it would have been better if they’d made it into a series and spent more time on each individual state.
They weren’t 100% accurate on the State of Franklin. Most of it was in what is now Tennessee but some of it was in what is now North Carolina, too. Some counties in the State of Franklin had parallel governments. A county government of the State of Franklin and one for the State of North Carolina, as some of the territory was in dispute.
And when they were talking about what is now Colorado being part of Kansas Territory, did you know that North Georgians played a large role in the Colorado gold rush and the founding of Denver?
Midori
April 25th, 2010
12:31 pm
you’re very welcome Tee.
And GWB and Rightwing Troll — you guys have me doubled over in laughter
William Johnson
April 25th, 2010
12:32 pm
There are some things I don’t understand about the criticism of the Arizona law.
Isn’t it true that this law merely makes it mandatory that the police in Arizona enforce laws already on the books. My question is, why were these laws not being enforced all along. Why do the critics think it is a good thing that these laws not be enforced?
If the existing laws against illegal immigration had been enforced in the past, is it not plausible to think that we would not have the problem of large numbers of illegal immigrants in this country today?
Midori
April 25th, 2010
12:38 pm
this is dedicated to you, Andy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if88PgI-vfU
Chris Broe
April 25th, 2010
12:41 pm
Cynthia Tucker appeared on ABC’s This Week this morning. She was enticingly demure, looking just disinterested enough to be compelling. George Wills was making Glenn Beck facial taunts during every single comment she made, but to no avail. Her insight that Arizona’s Immigration law would be more divisive than the healthcare bill seem to catch Wills off guard and he quickly pointed out that he had made that insight first, while shaving this morning, and merely forgot to mention it when he had the chance moments before Cynthia’s turn. Cynthia din’t take the bait. Score: Cynthia 7, George ZIP!
I don’t know why I get such a thrill out of watching Cynthia Tucker. She steals every roundtable she’s in. Nobody looks or sounds or…..there is something about television that you can’t teach. The camera either loves ya or it don’t. Today, with her hair pulled back away from her face, (in stark contrast to an earlier appearance), Cynthia emerged as a very influential pundit.
theyeshaveit
April 25th, 2010
12:42 pm
@@, I have seen “How The States Were Shaped” on the History Channel, too. I understand how you could get into that. The History Channel is possibly the one channel I cannot live without.
Midori
April 25th, 2010
12:44 pm
Chris,
about Arizona’s birther law: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_8VQVhRmAc
chuck
April 25th, 2010
1:03 pm
sfd said: “At any given moment, history has shown that 70% of voters any given state in this Union can be complete flippin’ idiots.”
I don’t know about that, but November of ‘08 showed us that about 54% of the voters were idiots in the presidential election.
Midori
April 25th, 2010
1:08 pm
well Chuck,
at least he didn’t have to go crying to his daddies cronies on the Supreme Court……….
Southern Comfort
April 25th, 2010
1:11 pm
Midori
They can’t even get that lie right. Earlier someone said it was 70%… What would we do without hate around here. Jay would be without a job.
Midori
April 25th, 2010
1:14 pm
LOL
Hi So Co
Kamchak
April 25th, 2010
1:16 pm
I don’t know about that, but November of ‘08 showed us that about 54% of the voters were idiots in the presidential election.
Shorter version—My panties are still in a wad.
Midori
April 25th, 2010
1:16 pm
Hi Kammy
Paulo977
April 25th, 2010
1:17 pm
midtown guy
12:05pm “most backward state” Here’s a ’small’ incident that I guess is of no consequence to the citizens of this ‘fair’ state..My lady friend ,a brown Indian, was just about to exit the freeway and had to slow because some HERO man was doing something in front of her when she was rear-ended .The little old white man who was obviously at fault was only given a warning by a white police officer because he said he was confused as he didn’t know WHY she slowed down!!!! I guess the ‘fair’Georgians will claim this is just an isolated incident! Ha!
Kamchak
April 25th, 2010
1:18 pm
Good Sunday afternoon Midori.
@@
April 25th, 2010
1:23 pm
Hillbilly:
I agree about more time on each state. If history can pique my interest like that show did, I want more time and details.
The funniest thing about Franklin was the way the town, to this day, advertises everything as The State of Franklin…The State of Franklin Bank…The State of Franklin Hardware. Humans are hardwired into territory.
The little peninsula of Illinois, now an island, was the original state capitol? The only original French colonial village left standing in the United States is Ste. Genevieve, Missouri? There are people still living in those houses. Charming!
I fell asleep before watching the whole program. I’ll catch the whole thing when I get a chance.
Why everyone is so eager to go outside the U.S. is a mystery to me. Plenty of interest here in our own country.
I’m out to play in the garden or mud as luck would have it. Late getting the okra in.
“Farmers are philosophical. They have learned that it is less wearing to shrug than to beat their breasts.”–Ruth Stout
Scooter
April 25th, 2010
1:27 pm
Paulo977
April 25th, 2010
1:17 pm
And here I was thinking that my post were irrelevant. Whew!
@@
April 25th, 2010
1:27 pm
Oh lawd…the chit chat brigade. Let me just say that I’m all for the people of Arizona expressing their concerns…having them addressed by their representatives. They’re thousands of miles from me, but still…
they’re fellow Americans.
chuck
April 25th, 2010
1:27 pm
midori, talk about BACKWARD, you apparently are still stuck in 2000. We’ve had a couple of elections since then and as I recall, your boy Gore has done alright for himself through blackmailing companies to give him money for “carbon offsets”. ANYBODY that voted for Barack HUSSEIN Obama thinking he was a centrist is an IDIOT.
chuck
April 25th, 2010
1:36 pm
Arizona’s new law is a response to the UTTER FAILURE of the federal government to maintain control of our borders. People can get ANYTHING or ANYBODY into this country if they want to badly enough. It would be really nice if the feds would finish building the fence that was promised. It would be even better if we PATROLLED OUR BORDERS more effectively. If you want an example of what can and will happen in America, just take a look at Europe. The muslims are practically taking over some countries. The pendulum is starting to swing back OUR WAY.
Midori
April 25th, 2010
1:37 pm
Losers never win, Chuck.
Never.
The Carnivore
April 25th, 2010
1:47 pm
Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada (2004)
This is actually the law of the land – I can’t believe no one brought this up earlier. The Supreme Court said that police who ask anyone (not just criminal suspects) for their identification are within their rights to do so. So the new Arizona law only affirms what is already the law in all 50 states.
Pogo
April 25th, 2010
3:26 pm
Jay, in all of his progressive arrogance, doesn’t have a clue what the border states are going through. Jay you would make the perfect addition to one of those famous New York Cocktail parties we’ve all heard about. You could sit with the rest of the liberal “intelligentsia” and peer down your condescending nose at all of those “rubes” out in the country that don’t believe as you do. Remember in November.
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April 25th, 2010
4:09 pm
Today, with her hair pulled back away from her face, (in stark contrast to an earlier appearance), Cynthia emerged as a very influential pundit.
Chris- Have you considered that ever since Tuck began appearing as the liberal representative on the Sunday morning talk shows, the dummycrat party favorables have plummeted by about 50 points?
And you aren’t suggesting you would do her, are you?
eeewwww, just sayin….
@@
April 25th, 2010
4:55 pm
Geez, Paulo:
That HERO could have just as easily been Robert Sims. Then what would you have to complain about?
There’s no way I’d have that job….looks dangerous to me.
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April 25th, 2010
5:00 pm
Geez, George Will presents facts and then follows them up with logic, CynTuck regurgitates some hideous White House talking point about the “party of no,” how can anyone take these dummycrat props seriously?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/04/25/this_week_roundtable_on_wall_street_reform.html
And I guess as an aside to my earlier comment to Chris B, with Paul Krugman being Tucker’s stoogemate, it does make her appear to be the more intelligent one, yeesh.
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April 25th, 2010
5:02 pm
And she’s got so much Botox shot into her face it makes look like someone is pulling back on her forehead with all their might, just sayin…
TaxPayer
April 25th, 2010
5:09 pm
Losers never win, Chuck.
Never.
I think you’re wasting your keystrokes with some folks, Midori.
Midori
April 25th, 2010
5:11 pm
*sigh*
I know, Tax ………….
Southern Comfort
April 25th, 2010
5:12 pm
Chuck
We do patrol our borders, thank you. US Border Patrol is always hiring, so feel free to apply if you think you can do it. BPA’s are getting killed because of government policy. It has nothing to do with Democratic or Republican administrations. Those guys/ladies are getting shot at but can’t return fire all the time because the shots are coming from Mexico. Sometimes you’ll have two (lemme repeat that so you don’t mistake what I’m saying) TWO BPA’s trying to track down groups that may number 20 or more. Sometimes they have backup nearby, other times, they’re on their own.
If you want enforcment, you’ve got to pay for enforcement. It’s plain to see some don’t really want it and only pay lip service to push an agenda. Otherwise, people wouldn’t b!tch about taxes all the time. Sometimes, as in defense AND border security, paying taxes is quite the thing to do.
Southern Comfort
April 25th, 2010
5:13 pm
btw…
Hi Midori. I forgot to label that earlier chuckler as a drive by. I was helping to secure our border at the time.
@@
April 25th, 2010
5:14 pm
Quibble with details!!?!! Since when has this administration taken the time to address the details in a bill. It’s damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead. They’ll get around to “quibbling” us after the bill is passed.
getalife
April 25th, 2010
5:14 pm
When the far right win power, we will all have to show our papers and you can hedge on a collapse.
@@
April 25th, 2010
5:16 pm
Getalife:
All we’ve got is paper with which to hedge.
@@
April 25th, 2010
5:16 pm
Worthless paper.
Midori
April 25th, 2010
5:18 pm
So Co,
that looked more like a crawl-by to me
getalife
April 25th, 2010
5:22 pm
@@,
Yeah, they saved this collapse but doubt they can save the next one.
Why do you want another collapse?
You know it will happen when the gop win?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
April 25th, 2010
5:24 pm
Bomb Sniffer- I recently discovered a forgotten pair of giant scissors in my leather laptop case, a case that has been through airport security numerous times with them in it.
They ain’t no more.
What’s up with that?
Southern Comfort
April 25th, 2010
5:24 pm
Midori
Since I carry quite often, a crawl-by would probably be a better description instead of a drive-by. I don’t want people to think I’m some rogue officer or something.
Southern Comfort
April 25th, 2010
5:26 pm
They ain’t no more? No more scissors… No more giant… No more in the laptop case… I’m not understanding the question.
@@
April 25th, 2010
5:30 pm
Getalife:
I’m not convinced they saved this one.
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It’s bad enough we can’t count on the federal government to enforce immigration laws, but we should at least be able to count on government agencies to not be involved in identity fraud.
The manager of the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles office at Springfield Mall was charged yesterday with selling driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants and others for up to $3,500 apiece.
The arrest of Francisco J. Martinez marked the second time in two years that a Northern Virginia DMV employee was accused of fraudulently selling licenses for cash. A similar scheme two years ago at the DMV office in Tysons Corner led to the guilty pleas of two employees.
Federal prosecutors in Alexandria charged Martinez, 57, of Stafford, with one count of conspiracy to commit identification fraud. As the head of DMV’s customer service center at the mall, he supervised about 30 employees. Also charged was his wife, Miriam Martinez, 56, a former DMV clerk in Tysons Corner.
A third person charged in the scheme, Jose Daniel Guardia, 25, of Alexandria, pleaded guilty Monday. Guardia, an illegal immigrant from Bolivia, found clients and collected fees for the operation, authorities said.
Virginia licenses were issued to at least 40 people who were either illegal immigrants or whose driving privileges had been suspended, prosecutors said.
Goheen could not explain how two similar scams might have been carried out so close together in two Northern Virginia DMV offices.
Yet court documents said the latest alleged scam was uncovered not by DMV but by the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/12/AR2005071201421.html
Southern Comfort
April 25th, 2010
5:34 pm
@@
We catch people all the time with driver’s licenses. Doesn’t sound like anything new to me. We don’t know how they get them, but it’s usually a sign to us that they’re coming here with intentions other than what they try to tell us.
@@
April 25th, 2010
5:40 pm
SoCo:
When I first read about Arizona’s new law I thought…hmmm, there will be those that find a way around it. $3,500 for a $20 driver’s license, and the thieves were their own people. Brown on brown crime. You would think….
That’s what gets my goad more than anything.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
April 25th, 2010
5:41 pm
Bomb Sniffer- How did they get through three or more times?
I thought that was a banned item?
@@
April 25th, 2010
5:47 pm
Also, I’ve always liked the temporary work visa approach, but our government can’t even keep track of those. We had ‘em out in California. Migrant workers would come across the border during picking season and then go back across until we needed ‘em again. And no talk about low wages ’cause my siblings and I all rode in the same truck…performed the same tasks. Just about every kid in Vacaville did. Paid by the bushel or crate, depending.
TaxPayer
April 25th, 2010
5:54 pm
@@ is a illegal immigrunt! Wow! Who woulda ever guessed.
@@
April 25th, 2010
5:57 pm
I know, TaxPayer, you all think I’m some sort of pampered princess.
Southern Comfort
April 25th, 2010
6:03 pm
@@
What they did is no different than what any other criminal does in my opinion. Some people will do anything to make money regardless of who it hurts in the long run.
They still have work visas like that. Agriculture visas are H2A’s and if they come back to the same company doing the same job, they can re-apply as a H2R. There’s a finite amount of H2A’s issued each year, but I don’t think there’s a limit to the H2R’s.
Oh Great Whiney One, I have no idea how they got thru. No technology is foolproof, and they all have their limits. I’m not going to go into detail about how to get around it, but it can be done. I can’t explain your situation or why it happened. I honestly have no idea of what scissors are banned and what are allowed now as the rule changes from time to time.
getalife
April 25th, 2010
6:05 pm
“Frankly, the Banks own this place.”
Sen. Dick Durbin, referring to the United States Congress but could add the WH too.
The banks are well connected and should be included in the new mob museum in Vegas.
stands for decibels
April 25th, 2010
6:08 pm
70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegal Immigration.
I imagine 70% of Georgia voters thought that lynching Leo Frank was a dandy idea back in the day.
TaxPayer
April 25th, 2010
6:11 pm
I know, TaxPayer, you all think I’m some sort of pampered princess.
You do realize that your own kind, aka, so-called conservative tea-partying Republicans, don’t welcome you here if you truly are an illegal immigrant, pampered or not.
getalife
April 25th, 2010
6:31 pm
Yeah, the other 30% are the ones getting profiled.
Southern Comfort
April 25th, 2010
6:52 pm
A deal is close to being made with the financial overhaul, buuuuttt………
The main sticking point in what McConnell decried as a “partisan” bill is a 50-billion-dollar fund to wind down failing firms.
Republicans say the fund would lead to endless bailouts, a charge Obama’s administration has repeatedly denied.
“It’s better not to pre-fund, no matter how you fund it, whether it’s a tax on banks or whatever it is, a fund that creates expectation it will be used,” McConnell said.
If it’s better not to pre-fund, no matter how you fund it, why in the hell do we need insurance for anything?
getalife
April 25th, 2010
6:55 pm
There will be no reform without breaking up the mob er banks.
It will pass.
stands for decibels
April 25th, 2010
7:29 pm
I know it needs to be done, but still, I find myself surprisingly saddened to read this.
Gwinnett County['s] two water towers erected for practical purposes have become … well, if not art, certainly landmarks. But not for much longer.
Gwinnett commissioners last month accepted a Norcross firm’s $149,000 bid to dismantle the behemoths along with four other county-owned water-storage and pumping structures. Demolition could start within weeks.
md
April 25th, 2010
7:53 pm
Why is it, that as a citizen of the US I can not enter any other country on the planet without a passport – including Mexico, yet folks that come here without a passport are given a pass by many here on these boards?
Why does Mexico prosecute illegals in their country yet expect us not to do the same with their citizens?
Why do folks here that advocate leaving them alone not seem to give a crap about the thousands of families still sitting on waiting lists to get here – some even longer because they were pushed to the back of the line?
Why should any nation based on law undercut that base by not enforcing said law? Is that not precedent in a nation of law?