Arizona trying to claim title, but Georgia’s still in the race
“Arizona is “turning into a punch line,” one of the state’s newspapers reported Friday after surveying the latest global commentary about the state featuring choice phrases such as “wingnut paradise,” “nuttiest legislative body,” “America’s dumbest state,” and “blazing a trail into the fringe.”
…Even some of the state’s own politicians have begun referring to Arizona as a “laughingstock.”
…The sources of derision?
There was the “birther” bill approved by the Arizona House this week requiring presidential candidates to prove their citizenship by displaying birth certificates.
There’s an immigration measure that effectively converts the state’s police departments into immigration officers, mandating that they stop and question people they suspect of being undocumented immigrants.
And there’s the new gun law that allows anyone besides convicted felons to carry concealed weapons without registration or background checks.
Finally, for good measure, there’s the sideshow Republican Senate primary starring J.D. Hayworth, a serious challenger to Sen. John McCain, and his now-famous observation that same sex marriage laws would lead to men marrying horses….
Yeah, but is the Arizona Legislature passing a bill to make it a misdemeanor to implant microchips in a human being against his or her will? Do they have an ethically bankrupt John Oxendine figure leading the GOP race for governor? Did they threaten to secede if Congress passes additional gun-control laws? Are they raising taxes on the poorest of their citizens, cutting billions from their budget while voting to exempt wealthy seniors from income tax?
Shoot, their state government actually helps support mass transit in their biggest cities!! So how crazy could they be?
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Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
6:13 pm
I wonder if IR/YW eats tacos or enchiladas?
I just wonder who taught him about firearms. When I was coming up, I was taught, “if you’re gonna pull it, you damn well better use it”.
N-GA
April 24th, 2010
6:15 pm
Hillbilly – The real question is: Do you believe economic pressure would significantly reduce the illegal immigrant problem?
josef nix
April 24th, 2010
6:20 pm
Hillbilly
Same here. I was taught never to throw the first punch, but once it was thrown, go for the jugular so to speak.
And folks, let me point out something about this particular bill…it contains a provision to prosecute those who give aid and shelter to illegals…that means that if Julio and I are having a few drinks and he has to crash at my house, I could be hauled in for not having checked his status…that, friends and foes alike, is very dangerous, the antithesis to what hospitality means and will build walls at a time when building bridges is of supreme importance…
theyeshaveit
April 24th, 2010
6:20 pm
Josef, I think Midori would say, “Not unless he can get them in liquid form.”
N-GA
April 24th, 2010
6:20 pm
Hillbilly – I realize it is a matter of spin, but I think you have it backwards with regard to the Miami Cuban loyalties. Even when the Democrats had the White House and the Congress, they did nothing to make life easier for Castro. To make your point just a little more accurate, the Cuban exile community pulls on the GOP oars because the GOP is fervently anti-Castro…..they never miss an opportunity to bash him. I even suspect they funnel money and intel to those anti-Castro groups.
danjonglee
April 24th, 2010
6:22 pm
when did Louis F’s million man march occur.? I was thinking it was in 2000 or 2001….
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
6:23 pm
N-GA
Yes, I’m in agreement with you on that. I’ve stated on here before that I think anybody who knowingly hires an illegal or doesn’t show due diligence in determining if someone is legal, should be fined $50,000 per illegal employee. Neither party has shown any interest in pursuing that course. It shouldn’t be like it is now, where they deport the illegal and nothing happens to the employer, who then, in many cases, just hires another illegal.
I believe, and I thought the same at the time, that Reagan’s amnesty program in the 80’s was a mistake and that it would open the flood gates. They were going to seal the border and offer a path to citizenship for those already here (sort of like they say now) but they only did half of it. They never closed the border and the reason they didn’t was to keep downward pressure on wages, especially blue collar wages.
Of course nobody on this blog knew me at the time, but in the late 80’s, early 90’s, I also said that if we really wanted to solve the problem, we’d do what we could to try to help Mexico build up its economy. If they could make a decent living there, most wouldn’t have any interest in coming here. Of course, there is only so much you can do to help a foreign country, but we could have made a better effort.
@@
April 24th, 2010
6:23 pm
I gotta share this. There’s a house on the way to a friends in SE Atlanta. Gotta be old hippies with tons of weird yard art and a sign that, prominently placed, that says “WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER”. Ride by the other day and what do I see? Latinos cleaning up the yard and BOY did that yard need some cleaning!!!!
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
6:25 pm
N-GA
On the Cuban thing, I’m just going on what I have been told by people, I know, who came from Cuba. I’ll grant you that’s a very small number of people but what they’ve told me is what I base that on.
DoggoneGA
April 24th, 2010
6:28 pm
” also said that if we really wanted to solve the problem, we’d do what we could to try to help Mexico build up its economy. ”
I’ve been saying that for years. If we want to stop the economic disparities that fuel illegal immigration then economic incentives to stay home should be at least as good as those that now lead to jumping the boarder. And that means raising those economies.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
6:28 pm
danjonglee
According to a quick Google, it was 1995.
Rightwing Troll
April 24th, 2010
6:32 pm
So someone against war is automatically an “Old Hippy” nowadays???
josef nix
April 24th, 2010
6:32 pm
Doggone and Hillbilly
I am in agreement with y’all on the investment in the economies south of our border. The point “if we want to stop_________ ” and fill in the blank, is the central issue. We DON’T want to stop it. It’s in our own vested self-interest not to. That’s why this round of “reform” will be no more effective than any of the previous ones….
Kamchak
April 24th, 2010
6:32 pm
I’ve stated on here before that I think anybody who knowingly hires an illegal or doesn’t show due diligence in determining if someone is legal, should be fined $50,000 per illegal employee.
Sound good on the surface, but doesn’t solve the problem, at least not in the new home business. The builder has maybe two employees at most, a superintendent and a clean-up person—the subs are the ones that build the house. I say make the property owner responsible and fines aren’t the answer. Zero tolerance and mandatory minimums at Reidsville.
N-GA
April 24th, 2010
6:34 pm
I think Bosch is trying to help the Mexican economy by purchasing personal farm products from them. Unfortunately there are unintended consequences.
DoggoneGA
April 24th, 2010
6:34 pm
“We DON’T want to stop it. It’s in our own vested self-interest not to. ”
That’s exactly right. And I’m in agreement with fining the employers. Unless, and until, we make it economically painful to hire illegals immigrants, it’s not going to end. And “closing the border” ain’t gonna happen either. You can’t build a wall high enough that someone can’t build a ladder a foot taller.
@@
April 24th, 2010
6:35 pm
Older Cubans lived under an oppressive government. They don’t wanna see the same repeated here. They’re also a very generous people….liberal in many ways, but they accept the responsibility as theirs, not the government’s. They know where that leads.
Dave R.
April 24th, 2010
6:35 pm
“At any given moment, history has shown that 70% of voters any given state in this Union can be complete flippin’ idiots.”
Sure was proven with a majority of voters in November of 2008.
Moderate Line
April 24th, 2010
6:36 pm
theyeshaveit
April 24th, 2010
4:18 pm
++++++++++++++++++
Moderate Line said, “The same people who are oppose to attempting enforce immigration laws just passed a law requiring people to have health care or face a fine. How are we going to enforce laws requiring health insurance? If someone comes to the hospital an can’t pay are the hospitals going to their home to and drag them away.”
By “the same people”, I suppose you mean people not agreeing with you?
I disagree with both the left and right so that statement doesn’t make sense from my perspective. I don’t think the law should be passed. It is one of the populist laws being passed because the government is so ineffective at preventing illegal aliens from entering the country. My guess the law will accomplish nothing because police won’t enforce it.
It just seem ironic that you have no problem with the government wasting resources fining people for not having insurance but oppose to using resources to stop illegal immigration no matter what mechanism is used. You will still have to find a way to enforce it. I have been to countries where you are required to keep identification on your legallity to be in their country.
Your mistake is assuming if someone disagrees with you they are a conservative which you translate as beings stupid and evil. My views on immigration are quit liberal and so are my views on health care. All my in-laws are from another country. However, when I see I a contradiction I call it.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
6:41 pm
Kamchak
I understand about the construction business. My view would be, hold the contractor responsible. He knows who his subs are and who their employees are. In most cases, the contractor is having his cake and eating it too. He claims to one person he doesn’t know, while threatening people such as yourself, with replacing you with illegals.
As for holding the property owner responsible, I can see good and bad in that. If it’s a developer, I’d go along with you, it’s his business and he should know. On the other hand, what of a person who is hiring someone to build a house for themselves? I was going to hire somebody once to do a job, and point blank asked them if their employees were legals and was assured that they were. I happened to find out that, that wasn’t the case, so I called him and told him he’d lost the job. What if I hadn’t found out? I had directly asked and was lied to.
N-GA
April 24th, 2010
6:43 pm
There are at least 2 government-maintained databases available to help verify immigrant status. I understand one matches name with SSN (not a look-up….it requires both the name and a number to verify a match or report a mismatch). I believe the other validates green cards. They are not perfect, but they weed out a lot of people with fraudulent papers.
If there was more effort put into making those databases more accurate (and inter-agency cooperation mandatory), then it would help employers snag illegal immigrants more quickly. If the employer can prove that a database search was done with no red flags, then they should be clean (assuming they had no other reason to believe/suspect the employee was an illegal).
One example of improving the databases would be to have the system flag SSN’s that are being reported from different areas of the country.
Midori
April 24th, 2010
6:49 pm
still bitter, Dave?
josef nix
April 24th, 2010
6:50 pm
Employers have no problem “snagging” the illegals…they’re the one’s who’ll do the job for subminimum wage or, in case of skilled labor, half the going rate…
josef nix
April 24th, 2010
6:54 pm
moderate–
Your points are well taken and, I assume, you don’t go by the latest memo either.
Kamchak
April 24th, 2010
6:56 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe
The point is that you acted responsibly. That example of hands on approach is the very thing that led you to discover hiring practices that you found objectionable. I’m not quite sure what you mean by contractor. In the new home biz a developer will develop the property while the builders will come in a “take down” lots, agreeing to build X number of homes. Many of the builders had the same hands on approach, but knew full well and encouraged subs to use illegals.
josef nix
April 24th, 2010
7:00 pm
I know this one is a bit harebrained, but are you going to ask for papers at the Burger King drive through before ordering your Whopper? It is, after all, “aiding and abetting.”
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
April 24th, 2010
7:02 pm
Well, I’m glad to see they’re cracking down on the illegals. It’s OK for them to do stuff like chicken plucking and yard mowing and the other stuff us rednecks don’t want to do, but I draw the line at giving them any rights in this country. We got standards, you know. Some of them might could get uppity and want a job us rednecks will do.
So it’s OK with me if they want to pull over people that look like they might could be Mexicans. Long as they don’t pull over upstanding people like me. Specially after I get a snootful down at Billy Bob’s and am just trying to find my way home.
Have a good Saturday night everybody and be sure to go to church tomorrow to pray that all the penniless Mexicans get hauled back to Mexico. God wouldn’t of wanted us to take care of them anyway and add to the tax burden.
Kamchak
April 24th, 2010
7:05 pm
Specially after I get a snootful down at Billy Bob’s and am just trying to find my way home.
RC (R–apoi)—I would think that as a resident of Forsyth Co. you would be a regular at Roosters in Cumming.
josef nix
April 24th, 2010
7:06 pm
Redneck
The song says that “Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world, red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight…” Don’t say nuthin’ ’bout no brown ones, so, there…WWJD?
@@
April 24th, 2010
7:06 pm
The crackdown on companies that hire illegals started back in 2006, but of course, that was on Bush’s watch. The same Bush that had previously proposed Comprehensive Immigration Reform.
Some companies out in California even used a law to target other companies, pointing to the unfair advantage when it comes to competition.
It’s kinda weird. Leftists want the companies punished (as they should be) but the end result is the same. Illegals get caught in the net.
You guys leave me confused. Basically what you’re saying is you want ‘em gone, you just wanna redirect attention so it looks nice.
Moderate Line
April 24th, 2010
7:08 pm
If the government can’t keep millions of illegal aliens out of the country how can they stop 1 terrorist because that is all it takes to create a big boom.
josef nix
April 24th, 2010
7:10 pm
@@
Amen, Sister! I don’t put much faith in any of those harping this, that and the other, ever-so-ignorant of the cost on the ground to those millions who came here under the wink-wink policies, In my opinion it is a lot of smug piety…me? Well, I’ll probably be hauled in as a stop on the Underground Railroad of the time and place…
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
7:12 pm
Rooster’s is a tad expensive for my tastes.
@@
April 24th, 2010
7:13 pm
Uh Oh, another bank closure and this one hits close to home for Democrats.
Illinois regulators Friday shuttered a Chicago bank closely tied to the Democratic candidate running for President Barack Obama’s former U.S. Senate seat.
Broadway Bank is owned by the family of Illinois state Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias, who is locked in a competitive race in this year’s elections. His role at the institution has become a central issue in the race.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703709804575202750103328946.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_business
Kamchak
April 24th, 2010
7:14 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe
Great burgers.
Moderate Line
April 24th, 2010
7:20 pm
Another thought I had. Are not the police suppose to investigate crimes if the have a reasonable suspicion that one has occurred. Isn’t that the case with any crime?
Do we really need a law requiring the police to investigate crimes?
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
7:20 pm
Kamchak
They are good but you ought to go A & M and get you some chicken n’ dumplins. Cheaper and mighty fine eating.
josef nix
April 24th, 2010
7:21 pm
To the compassionate conservatives…a personal vignette from the front lines…
A few years back we had a illegal parent arrested and held for deportation. Her good for nuthin man had left her with five little ones, all born in the US. The oldest was 12 and every day he was getting the little ones up and bringing them to school. When one of our parents heard about it, she went, got all five of them and brought them to her home. She went to the incredible expense of immigration lawyers, threading a bureaucratic nightmare. She and her husband were eventually able to get legal custody, the mom was sent back to Mexico. They have brought the kids up, provided them not just with a food, clothing and shelter, but a loving home and are sending them to the finest colleges now. Compassionate conservatives? These two are as GOP as the day is long, pro-life practicing Catholics and about as white as you can get. But I’ll take them over those who talk the other line but won’t walk the walk…
@@
April 24th, 2010
7:28 pm
Well, josef, throw Cesar Chavez, a sweetheart of the left, and you get a stray piece to the puzzle.
Cesar Chavez, co-founder of the United Farm Workers (UFW) Union opposed illegal immigration, claiming it undermined efforts to unionize farm workers and improve working conditions and wages for American citizen workers. The UFW reported illegal immigrants to the Immigration and Naturalization Service. In 1969, Chavez led a march along the U.S.-Mexico border to protest farmers’ use of illegal aliens.
They want their unions but not illegals.
Kamchak
April 24th, 2010
7:28 pm
Hillbilly Deluxe
It’s been a while since I’ve been to Rooster’s. One of the subdivisions I worked in was about five miles north of Cumming on 20. We would go to Rooster’s on Friday when we had to go into town to get the check cashed. I’m not familiar with A & M.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
April 24th, 2010
7:29 pm
Hole says-
I did not know the Mexicans were now coming over the border to kill us…
Sigh!.. So many wingnut fears to keep up with, throw that one on the pile as well…
Well, surprise, surprise, hole is ignorant on another subject, gosh, who would have thunk it?
In addition to the 4,380 that are murdered by illegals every year, 4,754 are killed by drunken illegal immigrant drivers. Data collected from prisons, news reports and independent research has led a number of groups and researchers to this conclusion, including Rep. Steve King who released numbers determining that 4,380 U.S. citizens are murdered annually by illegal immigrants.
And here I thought any idiot would know this, hahhahahahahaha.
@@
April 24th, 2010
7:29 pm
Let me finish that thought. a sweetheart of the left into the mix…
josef nix
April 24th, 2010
7:30 pm
On a different and more heartwarming topic…for those of y’all looking for a good read, “Bruce Feiler’s The Council of Dads: My Daughters, My Illness, and the Men Who Could Be Me” hits the shelves Monday. Got an advance copy and I recommed it very, very highly. One of the reasons I’ve been in a good mood these last few days…
mvale
April 24th, 2010
7:30 pm
Phoenix, Arizona, number 2 in violent kidnappings in the WORLD! Don’t judge unless you live there.
josef nix
April 24th, 2010
7:32 pm
@@
And, final analysis, we see how far Chavez got, too…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
April 24th, 2010
7:38 pm
ASHLAND, Wis. | Rep. David Obey has won 21 straight races, easily prevailing through wars and economic crises that have spanned presidencies from Nixon to Obama. Yet the discontent with Washington surging through politics is now threatening not only his seat but Democratic control of Congress.
Obey is one of nearly a dozen well-established House Democrats who are bracing for something they rarely face: serious competition. Their predicament is the latest sign of distress for their party and underlines why Republicans are confident of big gains in November, and perhaps even winning back the House.
Just sayin…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
April 24th, 2010
7:47 pm
70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegal Immigration
All the “crazy” people in the world, geez.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
April 24th, 2010
7:52 pm
But interviews with more than a dozen soldiers and health care professionals from Fort Carson’s transition unit, along with reports from other posts, suggest that the units are far from being restful sanctuaries. For many soldiers, they have become warehouses of despair, where damaged men and women are kept out of sight, fed a diet of powerful prescription pills and treated harshly by noncommissioned officers. Because of their wounds, soldiers in Warrior Transition Units are particularly vulnerable to depression and addiction, but many soldiers from Fort Carson’s unit say their treatment there has made their suffering worse.
Welcome to government health “care,” y’all!
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
7:54 pm
Kamchak
It probably wasn’t there last time you were there, then. Was across town but now it’s just up from Rooster’s and right across from the graveyard.
RW-(the original)
April 24th, 2010
7:54 pm
If you recall, I won jay’s contest. I predicted Joe would be Obama’s V.P. pick.
Geez, @@. I got Sarah Palin right so at best it’s a tie, but the degree of difficulty in my correct pick surely puts me ahead of a Biden pick.
(ISH)
@@
April 24th, 2010
8:02 pm
RW:
Agreed! The degree of difficulty goes to you. I’ll accept nothing short of a tie though. I’ve always taken great pleasure in being tied to you.
(IWH)
Dusty
April 24th, 2010
8:03 pm
Hmmm Cubans as Democrats. Not many. They haven’t forgotten Elian Gonzales quite yet thanks to Janet Reno and Bill Clinton. I read a recent report on Elian , now a teen ager. He is an icon of sorts in Cuba with special privileges. Gives them a little more strutting propaganda against the USA.
If you want to review the costs coming from illegal aliens go to Google and bring up “The Dark Side of Illegal Immigrants”. Illegals may help the business man but their costs to Americans is extensive. The amount of money they ship out of America is also extensive. Read it yourself. One example: Gwinnett County is having a big problem with Hispanic Gangs. Whether they are illegals, I don’t know. Most people assume that they are. Some gang members are killers.
Josef, your story only happens at uppity groceries these days. I shop at a small grocery chain store and I am one of the few that speaks English. I don’t mind. They are enjoying themselves (usually), both customers and clerks. They are very polite and switch to English when they see me. I like the prices and that is where I go. My money is in English and they don’t mind that either.
Your story about the family taking in the five children is a good story. My Colombian son-in-law (very LEGAL) told us about one of the men he met in business who has a mistress here with children and a wife and children in Mexico. The man is getting all tangled up in several problems, one being he is here illegally and not making much money now. Getting to America illegally is not always a “bed of roses” to them or us “legals”.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
8:07 pm
I’ve always taken great pleasure in being tied to you
So many lines; so little time. (IW&SH)
@ all right wingers
April 24th, 2010
8:08 pm
Where were you when our freedoms were being stripped by the patriot act and our debt was being run through the roof for a war we still haven’t received a logical explanation for, other than lucrative contracts for donating conservative contractors?
You people are brown and black hate monger offspring of the hate mongers who promoted Jim Crow as recently as 50 years ago. Stop masking and just tell the truth about your agenda.
@@
April 24th, 2010
8:17 pm
Hillbilly:
So many lines
Naahhh, just one line. I’ve gotta breathe.
Let me ask you a question….totally off topic. Have you ever smelled freshly baled tobacco? In the video is still looks moist, not dried and crumbly so make that freshly baled, moist tobacco.
RW-(the original)
April 24th, 2010
8:18 pm
I’ve always taken great pleasure in being tied to you.
Oh my…….
@@
April 24th, 2010
8:20 pm
Philosophically speaking, RW. Course, since we’re both tall we’d probably kill the competition in a three-legged race.
@@
April 24th, 2010
8:22 pm
Oh CRAP! Forget I said anything about three-legged.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
8:22 pm
@@
I don’t know much about tobacco farming. A few people I knew grew a little for their own use but it was before my time. North GA didn’t get much in the way of tobacco allotments. It was a solid Democratic area, so FDR gave the allotments to East TN, which was heavily Republican. Vote buying is nothing new.
Summit Dawg
April 24th, 2010
8:23 pm
Jay Bookman, you liberal A——! Shut up and get a real job!!!!
josef nix
April 24th, 2010
8:23 pm
Gotta run…have folks in Yazoo and can’t get through yet….hopefully they’re okay…looking at the film it doesn’t appear to have hit their part of town…
Pope UGA XXIII
April 24th, 2010
8:25 pm
The Arizona legislature has taken a bold step in ridding our
country of poeple that are not entitled to be here. Something
that our excuse of a Congress doesn’t seem to have the will
to do since it would cost the liberal pukes votes.
Since 70 +% of their population approves of this, Bookman,
why don’t you drive out there and tell them how “cruel and
mean-spirited” they are. Don’t forget your papers and watch
out for the Mexican gangs that are in Arizona now.
“Oh, if we could only tell them that we really care
about them and their future.”.
Yeah, right.
stands for decibels
April 24th, 2010
8:28 pm
I can’t remember ever quoting this Glibertarian rag before, but what the hey, seems pertinent.
It’s no surprise that Arizonans resent the recent influx of unauthorized foreigners, some of them criminals. But there is less here than meets the eye.
The state has an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants. But contrary to myth, they have not brought an epidemic of murder and mayhem with them. Surprise of surprises, the state has gotten safer.
Over the last decade, the violent crime rate has dropped by 19 percent, while property crime is down by 20 percent. Crime has also declined in the rest of the country, but not as fast as in Arizona.
Truth is, illegal immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than native Americans. Most come here to work, and in their desire to stay, they are generally afraid to do anything that might draw the attention of armed people wearing badges.
[...]
If there is anything we’ve learned about getting tough on illegal immigration, it’s that it rarely works as intended. Like punching a wall, it may feel good for a moment, but it hurts a lot longer.
DaBravos
April 24th, 2010
8:31 pm
Go Arizona! Oh Jay…so glad that bothers you…hahalol…
@@
April 24th, 2010
8:32 pm
Thank you, Hillbilly. I was here (no idea why) and thought….I bet it smells sweet. I like to smell pipe tobacco. There’s a guy at church who I’m not terribly fond of, but I love to smell his tobacco after the service.
DaBravos
April 24th, 2010
8:34 pm
The truth about liberals. They really aren’t liberals in the true sense of the word. They are socialist, marxist. They call evil good and good evil. They support some of the most vile things, and try to legitimize sin..A thinking liberal is an oxymoron. I haven’t found on yet that can follow and idea the length of their nose.they’re a bunch of weasels
joan
April 24th, 2010
8:35 pm
Arizona was forced to pass legislation that would allow them to crack down on illegal immigration–God knows our federal government is about as effectual as a two legged rat. All it wants to do is legalize these aholes and grow their base of entitlement constituency.
Chuck
April 24th, 2010
8:36 pm
At least the Arizona Legislature is taking a stand against the imperial federal government and trying to make Obama prove he is a US citizen, which he has still not done.
Dusty
April 24th, 2010
8:40 pm
Is the Rev. Wright back in town and blogging? Sounds like it at 8:08. Anyway, I hope he asks Prez Obama about all those terrible things. Seems Obama is doing much the same. Oh well….
HILLBILLY….There’s another “Rooster” at Lilburn. It’s the Blue Rooster but I don’t think you and Kamchak would like it. Cute little sandwiches. Dainty salads and finger food with drinks of sweet tea, orange juice, milk and CocaColas. The ladies love it. Try it at your own risk!!
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
8:47 pm
Dusty
Thanks for the tip but it doesn’t sound like my kinda place.
I’m a lot of things but dainty I ain’t.
I found a turkey feather, by the way. Stuff like that always makes my day.
The Carnivore
April 24th, 2010
8:48 pm
So Washington has dropped the ball on illegal immigration for 30 years, and you are critical of a state that is finally trying to solve the problem? Most people in Arizona support this, including 68-69% of Hispanics. Of course, the liberal media only interviews the ones who don’t like it.
This new law partially solves Obama’s umemployment issue, and he is too stupid to realize it. Who do you think will get jobs when the illegals start leaving? That’s right … AMERICAN citizens.
Let’s hope California, New Mexico, and Texas follow suit quickly and send a message to Obama that he is too out of touch with how most American citizens think.
woofn
April 24th, 2010
8:49 pm
long live AZ and GA…i doubt the other 48 want to see illegal immigrants over run the law of the land. Maybe writers like Bookman want to raise taxes and keep their head in the sand…it keeps them a job with the liberals who want something for nothing going.
Dusty
April 24th, 2010
8:53 pm
HILLBILLY,
I think finding a turkey feather would be like finding a pretty shell on the beach. So fine. So natural and a God given gift. I use to look for pretty rocks in dry riverbeds of southern Arizona. Usually in the evenings. Always found something special.
kayaker 71
April 24th, 2010
9:10 pm
All Arizona is doing is what our testicle free federal government should have done a long time ago. No one is against legal immigration. We are all immigrants in our own way. But to just walk across our borders and demand “rights”, from those who are willing to give them is the summit of idiocy. Infra structure cost soaring out of control, legal American ranchers killed trying to defend their homes and the zenith of arrogance, flying the Mexican flag in our country and “demanding” that we recognize their right to protest our own laws. Where is this going to end? Will Mexico send all of their poor and hungry citizens to this country? And the Mexican government has the audacity to accuse the US of profiling!!! Bozo is just about to learn what criticizing Arizonans is all about. Bozo is about as pathetic excuse for a leader that this country has ever known. Pathetic, inept and lacking the balls to protect this country and it’s citizens against intrusion from across our borders. This is an invasion, same as what we experienced on 9/11. And Bozo and his clowns don’t have the sense to realize it.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
April 24th, 2010
9:10 pm
Well, I don’t go to fancy places like Roosters. I like the kind of places where you can wear a good work shirt and a pair of Wranglers and not worry about what other people have on.
Glad to see Sister Dusty likes pretty rocks. I never been to a foreign country like Arizona, but I expect it’s nice. Wish she would move there and stay. It would make us all happy.
Have a good night everybody.
RGB
April 24th, 2010
9:11 pm
We are soooo fotunate to have such an erudite journalist as Mr. Bookman taking pity on us uneducated, shoeless, pickup-driving Georgians.
Out of curiosity, do people buy more newspapers after being talked down to?
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
9:13 pm
Out of curiosity, do people buy more newspapers after being talked down to?
I’ve always wondered about that myself.
kayaker 71
April 24th, 2010
9:15 pm
RDB,
We are so fortunate to have a person like Bookman looking out for all of us dumb hicks. I won’t say that his arrogance is bordering on Bozo’s but it’s pretty close.
william
April 24th, 2010
9:19 pm
I wonder if the border state citizens feel safer today! If the federal government would go after gangs like they did the Nazis and KKK, it would be a safe place for all.
Kamchak
April 24th, 2010
9:21 pm
Out of curiosity, do people buy more newspapers after being talked down to?
I canceled a subscription to The Wall Street Journal fifteen years ago for that very reason.
scott
April 24th, 2010
9:23 pm
What??? AZ does a crackdown of their illegals? What about us, what about CA? I’m here in Los Angeles and these losers politicians watch our city decompose with more signs in spanish and illegals everywhere! we NEEEEED this bill right here ASAP!
Rightwing Troll
April 24th, 2010
9:32 pm
So, how many people die from good ole home grown and bred Americans driving drunk there Andy?
getalife
April 24th, 2010
9:34 pm
One more collapse should do it.
Sicilians having to show papers.
Not good.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...
April 24th, 2010
9:53 pm
Change the subject much, hole?
Dusty
April 24th, 2010
9:53 pm
Well, I see my buddy RedNeck is here. Haven’t seen much of him lately. Guess he finally got “out” after the boot-leggin! And he calls it beer. Oh well….can’t call it “white lighning” either.. “Last Lightning ” should be the name of his stuff.. One drink and you light up. Then drop dead.
@@
April 24th, 2010
10:25 pm
You leftists do know that you can make your own natural cleaners, don’t you? Willing to pay more? Why, when you’ve got everything you need in the kitchen pantry?
This backlash comes at a time when research shows consumers are willing to pay more for goods that save energy, pollute less or are made from natural materials, and businesses say eco-friendly products are potentially big money-makers.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304506904575180210758367310.html?mod=WSJ_newsreel_business
You lefties aren’t too bright if you can be this easily duped.
Vinegar, baking soda…it’s all there in your pantry…neither very expensive. I was cleaning my windows inside today. Little vinegar, warm water, a teaspoon of dishwashing powder…cleans windows better than anything off the shelf.
I’m even suspicious about my county’s recycling facility. It’s free, but do they really recycle my recyclables or are they there just to make me feel good? ‘Ya just never know about these things. My heart’s in right place though.
You’re a weird bunch, you are.
Voice of Reason 2011
April 24th, 2010
10:27 pm
It is amazing to see such immigration laws come into existence. Such laws were not even thought about during the era of European immigration to the United States. Now, as our Hispanic brothers and sisters come to our nation, we are ready to implement such laws. I wonder what is the basis of such laws now? All of us know the answer to the question. Honestly, the law will backfire and hopefully the Supreme Court will hasten its demise.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
10:34 pm
There have been immigration laws in this country at least since the 1870’s.
@@
I used to work at a place where they had separate cans, all over the place, for recyclables. Many a day I saw the clean up people dump those in the same dumpster with all the other trash.
@@
April 24th, 2010
10:40 pm
Hillbilly:
That’s not what I wanted to hear. Try again.
Dusty
April 24th, 2010
11:19 pm
Voice of Reason 2011,
Have you ever heard of Ellis Island? Please read a little history. It might change your slanted view.
You think that “whites” from Europe came through an open door with no restrictions.. They did not. They came through customs, usually Ellis Island. If they did not meet all requirements they were sent back to their original country.
Did you think Europeans sneaked in illegally across the Atlantic Ocean?
Like HillBilly said, there have been immigration laws in this country at least since the 1870s They were enforced at one time.
Arizona is now trying to retain and enforce long established laws.. They do so to keep their state a stable, safe and legal place,.
Goodnight…..
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 24th, 2010
11:21 pm
I’m certain your recycling facility does exactly what they say they do. You have no reason to doubt them.
p.s. you’ve been namejacked, Hillbilly.
Signed, @@
G’nite. Just finished up tomorrow’s children’s sermon. It’s off to bed.
Hillbilly Deluxe (the real one)
April 24th, 2010
11:27 pm
@@
Citizen’s Arrest!!!!! Citizen’s Arrest!!!!!!
StJ
April 24th, 2010
11:34 pm
Wow. A state actually respecting the people’s 2nd Amendment rights, requiring candidates to prove they’re eligible for office, and enforcing immigration law since the feds aren’t going to do it.
I think Senator John’s days are numbered…he’ll be retiring soon.
theyeshaveit
April 24th, 2010
11:38 pm
scott said, “What??? AZ does a crackdown of their illegals? What about us, what about CA? I’m here in Los Angeles and these losers politicians watch our city decompose with more signs in spanish and illegals everywhere! we NEEEEED this bill right here ASAP!”
Signs in Spanish bother you? Terrible, isn’t it? Get used to it buddy, because you will be the minority in California soon enough. And that is what this all about for you isn’t it? You cannot stand the thought that one day in the very future there will a lot more brown faces around than people who look like you. Don’t tell me this isn’t the real reason that your thumping your chest about SB1070.. Don’t tell me that it is not the same thing with the birthers crowd, too.
Paulo977
April 24th, 2010
11:42 pm
Hillbilly
Deluxe
3:05pm ….’move’? Sure they can come on here home of the KKK ..much more comfortable than Arizona !
theyeshaveit
April 24th, 2010
11:44 pm
Dusty, Dusty, get a grip. The Ellis Island immigrants hardly had a chance of coming to America any other way. You think they’d swim across the Atlantic with a pair of water wings to circumvent immigration authorities? Do you think it was a piece of cake to stow away on board a ship of the White Star Line?
theyeshaveit
April 24th, 2010
11:59 pm
Oh, by the way, why isn’t anything being said about the other border? There have been a number of illegal immigrants from Canada in this country. These illegal immigrants from north of the border, unlike those from the south, do not pay taxes and steal jobs from American workers. Why do we not talk about that? Is it because they look like us and not like them?
http://www.canadaupdates.com/news/illegal_immigrants_from_canada_steal_us_jobs-28502.html
Paulo977
April 24th, 2010
11:59 pm
the eyes have it
11:38pm ” in the very near future there will be a lot more brown faces around than people who look like you” You know in some strange/ or not so so strange way …what goes around comes around , though not instantly ! Think of what our ancestors did to those brown faces long ago who owned this land and lived according to their own laws and traditions ! Wonder how many have watched the movie Avatar?
theyeshaveit
April 25th, 2010
1:16 am
Republicans want to have their cake and eat it, too.
Arizona’s republicans (and other republicans) claim that they had to ram through SB1070 because the Democrats were dragging their feet on immigration. So, what do you say when today the AP reports that Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, threatened to withhold support (on climate change legislation) if Senate Democratic leaders push ahead first with an immigration bill.?
I say it’s the epitome of hypocrisy. The party of no once again jumps into non action.
Joel Edge
April 25th, 2010
4:38 am
Delta’s ready when you are, Jay.