AJC editors and columnists just finished a pretty wide-ranging 80-minute interview with Sen. Saxby Chambliss and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and I took the opportunity to ask a question that had been nagging at me for a while.
Both men stressed that on health care, “repeal and replace” would remain the GOP message into the fall elections. However, both also acknowledged that they would like to retain some aspects of the Democrats’ plan, such as coverage of pre-existing conditions.
I’ve seen that goal expressed repeatedly by Republicans, but I’ve never seen an explanation of how they would accomplish it. Hated as it is, the “pre-existing condition” exclusion often serves a legitimate purpose. Insurance companies use it to discourage “free riders” who would otherwise choose to go without coverage for years, buying a policy only when they come down with a serious illness or injury.
If you somehow tell companies they can no longer deny coverage of pre-existing conditions, you need to provide them another way to eliminate free riders. Under the new law, individual mandates are that tool. As long as everyone is required to have coverage, nobody can game the system and there’s no longer any justification to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions.
So if the GOP plan is going to ensure that pre-existing conditions are covered, as Chambliss and McConnell suggested, how would they do it without individual mandates? What mechanism would they use?
Chambliss and McConnell had no answer. Literally.
After Chambliss fumbled an initial response, McConnell broke in with a long and familiar condemnation of the Democratic plan, including its failure to include tort reform. After a few minutes, I interrupted and brought him back to the question: OK, but how are the Republicans going to cover pre-existing conditions?
“The premiums are going up either way,” he said.
OK, I responded, a little stunned. That doesn’t explain how the Republicans intend to cover pre-existing conditions.
“The premiums are going up either way,” he repeated.
That was that. We moved on, and I still don’t have my answer.
Actually, I guess I do. Republicans clearly understand that the American people want the problem of pre-existing conditions to be solved; it’s also pretty clear that they have no idea how to achieve that goal. In fact, while they campaign on “repeal and replace,” they intend to keep that whole “replace” thing as vague and ill-defined as possible. In response to another question, McConnell said explicitly that the Republicans would not be drafting a specific plan on how they intend to replace ObamaCare. Instead, he said, individual GOP candidates would each be offering their own ideas of what a good replacement might look like.
Those ideas will no doubt include pledges to address pre-existing conditions, even if they don’t have the vaguest idea how.
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Ira in East Lake
April 6th, 2010
4:21 pm
I’m just shocked they didn’t revert to intoning the ability of the free market to make everything better.
What boobs.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
4:22 pm
Did you expect anything different or even a concrete plan?
Jay
April 6th, 2010
4:23 pm
I expected SOMETHING.
TaxPayer
April 6th, 2010
4:26 pm
Typical Republicans. They do well as long as they are not forced to deal with reality. I’m surprised that they did not answer with something like “Drill Baby Drill” or “Death Camps” or even toggle between the two.
larry
April 6th, 2010
4:27 pm
Wasnt individual mandates orginally a Republican idea? I believe they thought that up back in ‘93 when President Clinton was trying to get his health care reform plan passed. And now they are against something they were for. Why am i not suprised.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
4:27 pm
Jay,
If you were dealing with policy advisors or think-tank people, you should have expected an answer. With a politician, just be glad that you left with your wallet intact. I don’t think any of them could give you directions from the Capitol to National airport.
Matilda
April 6th, 2010
4:28 pm
Informative piece, Mr. B! I like it when reporters ask direct questions of our representatives. I noticed a similar dynamic from Rep. Tom Price (R-6th) at his health care town hall meeting last September. A constituent relayed the story of her family’s struggle to care for her daughter, who was refused insurance from birth due to a congential condition. They’ll never be able to save, retire, move, or know any of the rewards of a hard-working multiple-income family, as it’s all they could ever do to barely keep up with her medical needs. >>> How would Rep. Price address the needs of families like hers? Rep. Price regurgitated a party-sanctioned talking point about “government takeover,” then moved quickly to the next person in line. He demonstrated no concern and no intent whatsoever to address the troubles such families. Fortunately for Dr. Price, I believe “Bring Back Pre-existing Conditions!” will fit nicely on a bumper sticker, should he face a real challenger in this year’s election.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
4:29 pm
They do not have the vaguest idea how, because that, and indeed health care itself, are not the priority. We would do well to recall that prior to any vote on health care reform, Boehner had announced that defeating Obama on HCR would be his Waterloo. Well, that did not happen. Republicans are praying for repeal and replace to score political points. It is not about health care, not about adherence to the Constitution, or any of the other “reasons” they might pull out of their – ahem- hats. It is all about defeating Obama. Always has been. Always will.
GoingBroke
April 6th, 2010
4:29 pm
LOL @ Jay.. Why expect anything.. there is a big difference between running on a platform and actually running on a plan.. could have been worse..
Pres Obama.. minus teleprompter.. 17 minute / 2500 word answer to a woman that asked a question about taxes.. I like the term that the reporter used to describe the audience.. “dazed and confused” at the end..
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
4:30 pm
I’m sure it will be like the Jedi performing mind tricks on the weak-minded. The GOP will say something along the lines, “Instead of what is in the current health care bill, we will assure that all pre-existing conditions are covered and that no one will ever be able to be dropped from their policy due to illness.”
The people will go Hooray!!!! Not realizing that it’s already in there and the GOP will look like heroes – cause the attention span of the average American (and quite frankly, I’m beginning to think the intelligence of) is severely lacking.
jconservative
April 6th, 2010
4:30 pm
I would think that the pre-existing condition part of the new law would remain on the books. A mandate on insurance companies is one way, a government program is another and the mandate on individuals as we will now be doing is the other. A mandate on private business is very unrepublican and is, in effect a tax. Will Republicans go for a government program? Maybe, Medicare Part D was a Republican idea and is now law.
This is why politics is fascinating.
TaxPayer
April 6th, 2010
4:30 pm
I expected SOMETHING.
Well, there you go! Why did you expect something!
joe matarotz
April 6th, 2010
4:31 pm
Jay, you were talking to politicians. They all gave up a long time ago on ‘dazzling them with brilliance’. All that is left is plan B, ‘baffling them with…’ It’s great to see our government at work.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
4:32 pm
larry said, “Wasnt individual mandates orginally a Republican idea? I believe they thought that up back in ‘93 when President Clinton was trying to get his health care reform plan passed. And now they are against something they were for. Why am i not suprised.”
Romney gave his state mandates. But, oh, he is still against HCR because he says it was not done at the state level. Oh, right.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
4:32 pm
JAY
Surely you’re not that naive. You knew going in you wouldn’t get a straight answer. These are politicians.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
4:34 pm
I hate to say it Jay, but you would have been better off asking that question to a pair of donkeys. That way, there would have been no pretenses of you asking a serious question to a pair of jacka$$es who didn’t have a clue about what you were asking.
Jackie
April 6th, 2010
4:37 pm
Frank Luntz survey talking points. The words mean nothing because they have basis in fact.
getalife
April 6th, 2010
4:37 pm
The rnc drama is too much for me.
I ate too much popcorn.
retiredds
April 6th, 2010
4:38 pm
Jay, just like McCain being a “maverick”, and Romney being against health care reform, and “Mission Accomplished” and “deficits don’t matter”, etc., etd. the “Repeal and Replace” is a nice slogan for the party of no. What they are really saying is let’s repeal this thing and then not replace. McConnell and Saxby couldn’t answer your question because they don’t have a clue. Let’s not forget they are the “just trust us” crowd. As in the past their slogans are just that, meaningless and designed to deceive.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
4:39 pm
thank you, Jay, for asking the questions on nearly everyone’s mind…..
GoingBroke
April 6th, 2010
4:39 pm
Jay.. did they take off their coats and roll up their sleeves so they could be like the “working man”?
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
4:42 pm
“The premiums are going up either way,”
Well, he was at least telling the truth there.
We need to send out a prayer for those people up in W VA.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
4:44 pm
retiredds said, “Jay, just like McCain being a “maverick”, and Romney being against health care reform, and “Mission Accomplished” and “deficits don’t matter”, etc., etd. the “Repeal and Replace” is a nice slogan for the party of no. What they are really saying is let’s repeal this thing and then not replace. McConnell and Saxby couldn’t answer your question because they don’t have a clue. Let’s not forget they are the “just trust us” crowd. As in the past their slogans are just that, meaningless and designed to deceive.”
Real answers are not in their playbook. The drone of party ideology like Tinnitus in the ear is all we can expect from them.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
4:44 pm
I know, but the dummycrats are gonna get it grounded right up their keisters, just sayin….
Obama Can’t Name A White Sox Player
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/04/06/obama_cant_name_a_white_sox_player.html
What a stooge, fake person, clown, Comunisky Field my…..
RW-(the original)
April 6th, 2010
4:44 pm
Look who’s the newest birther.
MICHELLE OBAMA: Surrounding HIV testing which is still plaguing so many of our communities, which you all know a lot of that is due to homophobia. Barack has led by example. When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test.
RB from Gwinnett
April 6th, 2010
4:45 pm
If only you would ask such relevant questions of Obama….
DoggoneGA
April 6th, 2010
4:45 pm
“the “Repeal and Replace” is a nice slogan for the party of no”
That’s absolutely correct. They have a SLOGAN, they don’t NEED a plan. They have a SLOGAN, and that’s all they need.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
4:47 pm
Whiner, can you for once try to get on topic instead of spitting your typical drivel?
GoingBroke
April 6th, 2010
4:50 pm
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
4:47 pm
“Whiner, can you for once try to get on topic instead of spitting your typical drivel?”
Drivel being.. Obama is lost and clueless without a teleprompter?
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
4:50 pm
RW–
Ooooh! So he isn’t from illegally occupied Hawaii?
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
4:50 pm
RW, we are talking about the Republicans inability to discuss their ideas on the replace portion of their repeal and replace motto. Can you handle it? Get on topic why don’t you?
DoggoneGA
April 6th, 2010
4:50 pm
“can you for once try to get on topic ”
What?! And lose his cushy job? Not a chance.
@@
April 6th, 2010
4:53 pm
Instead, he said, individual GOP candidates would each be offering their own ideas of what a good replacement might look like.
That’s what the American people wanted from the get-go….everyone’s thoughts but Obama and the dems saw it differently.
I find no fault in giving the people what they asked for. It’s all about the collective.
GoingBroke
April 6th, 2010
4:54 pm
The republicans can’t formulate their ideas and the democrats have no idea what they just passed.. nor do they have a clue as to how much it will cost. They are so confused that they use the New York Times as a source to explain parts of the health care plan they just passed.. (whitehouse.gov)
So.. is it better to be clueless or clueless and do damage?
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
4:54 pm
We can’t all be on topic. Somebody has to be the ODD man/woman out!!
Paul
April 6th, 2010
4:55 pm
Not often you get to see such an opportunity for advantage squandered that badly. As I’ve said, their consultants get paid way too much.
Hopefully your fellow journalists will keep pressing the question. Who knows? Someone might just get a coherent answer.
You’re fortunate there were no cameras. When Sen McConnell began filibustering with a nonanswer you did what a journalist was supposed to do – respectfully guide him back on course. If there’d have been cameras present, you would have been excoriated for rude and demanding behavior, as was Brett Baier in his interview with Pres Obama.
Good work.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
4:56 pm
Hi Paul
Paul
April 6th, 2010
4:57 pm
RW-(the original)
Good thing his dad wasn’t German and Michelle didn’t say “the Fatherland.” Or English and didn’t say “the Motherland.”
It’s just an expression -
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
4:59 pm
GoingBroke, I will take a man who, originally from Hawaii, is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, and former the president of the Harvard Law Review to your intellectual model, Sarah Palin. The very day Palin mentioned the words teleprompter she was writing the answer to a question that had not been asked yet on the palm of her hand. Ugh. I thought only grammar school kids did that. And how was it that she which question was coming up? But we digress. The topic is Repeal and Replace, I believe. Or do you wish to be as evasive as the folks that Jay interviewed?
RW-(the original)
April 6th, 2010
5:01 pm
RW, we are talking about the Republicans inability to discuss their ideas on the replace portion of their repeal and replace motto. Can you handle it? Get on topic why don’t you?
Actually you seem to be more interested in playing blog nanny. To each his own I guess. As for the topic it wouldn’t have mattered a bit what they said in response to Jay B’s question. We still would have been treated to a biased critique.
GoingBroke
April 6th, 2010
5:02 pm
Paul
April 6th, 2010
4:57 pm
Being of Irish heritage.. does that mean I should start calling Ireland my home?
For some people.. they still want to strive to come into this county legally and become an American.. for some Americans.. they want to become something they are not..
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
5:03 pm
“We need to send out a prayer for those people up in W VA.”
For real. That was hard news to wake up to this morning.
Mr. Snarky
April 6th, 2010
5:03 pm
As usual, the republicans are all hat and no cattle. They tell their constituency what they think they want to hear with no actual plans to accomplish anything. Attempts to repeal will be just as effective as Bush’s attempt to reform Social Security…because most people like Social Security. What a couple of wastes of space!
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
5:04 pm
“We still would have been treated to a biased critique.”
Maybe so, but it would been nice if they’d at least attempted to answer the question so he could have at least attempted some of his “bias.”
Nice twist job there.
TaxPayer
April 6th, 2010
5:05 pm
The three Rs.
Repeal and Replace the Republicans.
Paul
April 6th, 2010
5:05 pm
Hi Midori!!!
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
5:06 pm
Hi Midori!
Hi Paul – where you been lately?
GoingBroke
April 6th, 2010
5:07 pm
Mr. Snarky
April 6th, 2010
5:03 pm
“Attempts to repeal will be just as effective as Bush’s attempt to reform Social Security…because most people like Social Security. What a couple of wastes of space!”
Yeah.. and can you believe the suckers that still think there is money in SS?
@@
April 6th, 2010
5:07 pm
Geez! this is so unbecoming. All the leftists who jump to jay’s defense.
I thought chivalry was reserved for women?
jay, what color panties do you wear?
eddy
April 6th, 2010
5:08 pm
They should have an answer but then again they are politicians!! I would also ask you to convene John Lewis and Hank Johnson to give specifics, as in details not concepts, as to what is actually and factually contained in the Obamacare bill. The sound of silence would be deafening. None of them know..not even Obama but then again let’s get caught up in details.
But then again, some of your regular posters could probably fill in the blanks with all of the “feel good” stuff but nothing substantive.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:08 pm
On topic? How many more ways can you say, Jay, you expected something? Silly, boy…
Paul
April 6th, 2010
5:09 pm
Going broke
[[Being of Irish heritage.. does that mean I should start calling Ireland my home? ]]
I believe the custom is “home” refers to where you currently live, whereas adding “land” means the land which is one’s ancestral home.
So with Ireland, you could say ‘my Ireland homeland” or “the land of the Ires which was my landed home before I found home. Where my land is.”
But no one will know what you’re talking about. So I’d recommend “Irish homeland.”
Paul
April 6th, 2010
5:10 pm
Bosch
Out on business travel.
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
5:11 pm
Paul,
Oh, I thought you might have snuck off to ABBAland again.
Paul
April 6th, 2010
5:11 pm
Bosch
Sorry, didn’t mean to be curt.
Hi!
DoggoneGA
April 6th, 2010
5:11 pm
Actually, if they ever DO come up with a replacement plan, I’ll be interested to see it.
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
5:11 pm
Doggone,
Yeah, I’m sure the pictures will be awesome!
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
5:12 pm
Paul,
Oh, and yeah, I’m so offended!
Matilda
April 6th, 2010
5:12 pm
“I find no fault in giving the people what they asked for. It’s all about the collective.”
You mean like when the people (the majority of voting citizens) asked for health care reform via choosing the Presidential candidate (and a buncha legislators) who ran on that platform back in the ‘08 election? Nice to have you aboard!
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
5:13 pm
Clueless Saxby and At a Loss Mitch are typical of the new age GOP.
Both are disgraceful excuses for “representatives” of we the people…
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
5:14 pm
good point josef…
Paul
You also have to consider that for ages, Blacks here in the U.S. have referred to Africa as “the Mother Land”. Personally, as long as he’s human and American nothing else should matter.
Keep up the good fight!
April 6th, 2010
5:14 pm
@eddy…. notwithstanding your nonsensical attack…..the law is out there. The Republicans want to campaign on Repeal and Replace….now, it seems that with hiring Steele’s family as speechwriters and with the other spending that someone should be asking them the tough questions of what are you actually going to do if elected. They have had months to come up with a plan. SO who is it that actually has a “feel good” slogan (at least to the wingnuts) and nothing substantive? They dont have to write it themselves..they can adopt the ideas of others, they can use their own ideas from the past….they can have their staff tweak it into a specific plan….but if you are going to run around saying “repeal and replace”…ya just might want to have a “replace” portion of that reponse…..
DoggoneGA
April 6th, 2010
5:15 pm
“Yeah, I’m sure the pictures will be awesome!”
Cute! Personally, I think they’re like anarchists…they know what they DON’T want, they don’t know what they DO want.
Pogo
April 6th, 2010
5:15 pm
Jay, look no further than your revered leader, Obama, for an example of a politician not being able to intelligently respond to a question from a reporter. He still, to this day, does not understand HIS own healthcare plan that passed. The speech referred to above by GoingBroke that was given to the battery factory employees in NC is proof enough of this. And Obama is the president (or is supposed to be)! So you expect any other of this band of goofs (comprised of both parties) to be able to give an intelligent answer? Jay, why don’t you open your eyes and at least admit that when it comes to having a competent government, this country is in one hell of a mess. The days of looking at our government and siding with the Democrats or the Republicans is way, way gone. If you still insist upong adhering to this sad political philosophy, that pretty much makes you a pathetic dinosaur or a moron ( which I don’t think you are). As for repealing the legislation, it needs dramatic overhaul. Whether that means appealing it or just amending it, it doesn’t matter. It is a very flawed piece of legislation that needs fixing or abolishing, depending upon who does the fixing how they fix it. The idea of mandatory coverage of “pre-existing conditions” on the surface sounds like a noble cause that everyone should support. But as with everything else, it isn’t as simple as you would like to make it out to be. There are abusers of every system the government controls and people will find a way to abuse this clause. The controls to prevent such abuse are not in this bill and it is wide open to abuse.
Besides, we all know when it comes down to it, you can’t trust a government worker.
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/state-employees-charged-in-440396.html
Paul
April 6th, 2010
5:16 pm
Replacement Plan
Keep coverage for preexisting. Keep no dropping when sick. Claim you were for it all along. Include tort reform.
Cut welfare subsidies for families making upwards of $90K a year. Take a portion of the money saved and put it in a fund. Seed money. If someone gets sick and decided to not get insurance, use that money to pay the bills. Then bill the guy who got cured according to insurance reimbursement rates. Set up a repayment plan like a mortgage, unable to be avoided through bankruptcy. Say it’s part of the Republican ideal of self sufficiency. You want to take a risk and be stupid, don’t expect others to bail you out.
It’s about the only set of replacements that’s at all consistent with what they’ve said.
Paul
April 6th, 2010
5:17 pm
Bosch
“I’m so offended.”
Easy to see how your brain was addled, thinking about Abba and all -
danjonglee
April 6th, 2010
5:19 pm
Instead of focus on party out of power….why not focus on party that’s actual making law and forcing unfunded mandates…?
pat
April 6th, 2010
5:20 pm
Wow, I thought democrats behaved so well, remember this isn’t lunatic fringe this is every liberal…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk8gXtffbeY&feature=player_embedded#
Throwing eggs. How rude.
Paul
April 6th, 2010
5:20 pm
SoCom
[[Blacks here in the U.S. have referred to Africa as “the Mother Land”. ]]
That’s interesting. Learn something new every day!
Bosch and I have been discussing the Mother Ship. Wanna join? He’ll help ya’ with the handshake -
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:20 pm
Oh, good! I can call the West Bank my home country now and be in line with the acceptable…?
Fundad
April 6th, 2010
5:20 pm
Well there was a plan but everything the idiot Republicrats offered up was shot down by the Dumbocrats.They had proposed: 1. putting people with pre-existing conditions into a government insurance pool aided and supported by federal funds along with their own contributions. 2. Allow private individuals to purchase their own policies with after tax dollars just like people who work for companies that pay for insurance premiums with aftertax dollars.3. Do away with cobra and allow people to keep their policies as long as they continue to pay the premiums.4. Forbid insurance companies to drop coverage on these individuals or to raise their rates beyond a certain point.
5. Streamline regulations and mandates for insurance companies and allow policies to be sold across state lines.6. Allow individuals to easily join and/or form larger insurance pools. 7. Some type of tort reform is needed so that Doctors are not overpracticing medicine to cover their ass in cse they get sued. Insurance reform should have started with some of these things rather than the poison pill we just got that virtually no insurance company can survive long term.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:22 pm
Paul–
You leave Abba out of this… signed, Dancing Queen…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
5:23 pm
Why would I bother to stay “on topic” when the columnist can’t even truthfully discuss the issue?-
As long as everyone is required to have coverage, nobody can game the system and there’s no longer any justification to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions
1) The obomination does not require everyone to have coverage. You can either buy a bloated government mandated policy for about 12 grand a year or take the “public option fine” and pay a measly 750 bucks. Why must you lie Bookman?
2) Of course we will never get a recording of this interview so we will never know if my boys were really stuttering or not, and the way dummycrats deal with the truth, I’m going with they did not. Go ahead and tell me Cynthia saw it too, that’ll make all the difference.
3) The real issue of pre existing is when you lose your job or try to transfer your insurance and they discover something in your health check up that they deny.
4) Even by the liberals own count, 44 million people do not have insurance, so taking into account how much a democrat lies, let’s say it is really 22 million. What are there, 20 million illegal aliens now? So now we have 2,000,000 deadbeats that are gaming the system, according to Pinocchio^^ anyway, and I’m thinking, I know that many young healthy adults who choose to not own health insurance, because they see no need.
Can you say fabrication?
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:23 pm
Free universal health care and be done with it…
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
5:24 pm
Paul
I don’t know about that Mother Ship. I’ve seen what those people look like. As the old saying goes, “Beauty is only skin deep.” But I’m game if there’s a secret handshake involved.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:24 pm
“GOP’s ‘Repeal and replace’ slogan has no grounding in reality”
Reality is gonna be really bad for left wingers come November.
@@
April 6th, 2010
5:24 pm
Obama’s AWOL!
The bottom line is that apart from a new “resolution authority” used to take over and liquidate failing nonbanks—a power that is likely to affect what happens only after the next crisis hits—the Dodd bill is fast turning into a nonevent.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/235938
Obama did say he liked to delegate…less of a hands-on kinda guy. What that says to me is he doesn’t want his fingerprints on anything that could indict. Leaves him room to place blame…something that he’s well-versed in.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:25 pm
“Both are disgraceful excuses for “representatives” of we the people…”
Says the guy who thinks Los Angeles is a state.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
5:25 pm
Paul and josef, you know I respect the hell outta you guys, but DO NOT make me go all Belushi on you with that Abba stuff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9JYq-mXprw
N-GA
April 6th, 2010
5:27 pm
Well, if all those people with pre-existing conditions would just get off their arses and go out and get a job, then the rest of us wouldn’t have to get stuck paying hteir bills…..dammit!
Keep up the good fight!
April 6th, 2010
5:29 pm
Pogo…ya have the answers…so why dont you sent your plan of fixes to the Republicans since they dont have any plan. Maybe you have a plan for resolving the abuses in our military spending too since savings there would be big.
Its a nice claim to say lets solve abuses but actually writing legislation to preclude any abuse is impossible. Abuse is the nature of any legislation. Legal loopholes and definitional issues. Those are covered by regulations, rules and amending legislation. There are always unintended twists and turns. There are always good exceptions that should be permitted but there may be restrictions that have the unintended consequences of blocking.
“throw them out” without a replacement plan is ridiculous. Health reform is a journey. This law is a beginning, not an end. But Republicans have no plan….and what is the Tea Party plan…or anyone elses?
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
5:29 pm
Looks like I’ll need a good pair of these now that the blog’s leg humper has gone all rabid (again).
http://www.rockcreek.com/patagonia/rain-shadow-pants-mens-18504/?ref=RCO_googlebase
bob
April 6th, 2010
5:32 pm
I wish democrats felt the same way about freeloaders when it came to the rest of society. Paying women to breed and paying druggies with Social Security money has not helped the cause, unless the cause was getting re-elected.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:32 pm
“Looks like I’ll need a good pair of these now that the blog’s leg humper has gone all rabid (again).”
LOL! Whatever you say LAmVet.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:33 pm
@@
“Obama did say he liked to delegate…less of a hands-on kinda guy. What that says to me is he doesn’t want his fingerprints on anything that could indict. Leaves him room to place blame…something that he’s well-versed in.”
He is a product of the Chicago machine.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:33 pm
“Paying women to breed and paying druggies with Social Security money has not helped the cause, unless the cause was getting re-elected.”
Ohhhhhhhh, that’s racist!!!!!! You forgot the other half of Democrat voters which includes dead people, felons and illegal aliens.
@@
April 6th, 2010
5:34 pm
Obama where art thou indeed?
—all signs are that he continues to leave the issue entirely to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and the administration’s chief economic adviser, Larry Summers. This duo, in turn, seems willing to let the Senate do what it wants as long as it doesn’t get too specific in placing new restraints on Wall Street. Rather than putting new rules into law that will break up the banks or restrict them from certain risky practices, Geithner and Summers are banking on the same financial regulators who fell asleep last time, expecting they will use their discretion appropriately to keep an eye on things in the future. As evidence, consider Geithner’s letter to Rep. Keith Ellison, who recently asked for advice on what kind of leverage requirements to put into the bill. None, Geithner replied. “We do not believe that codifying a specific numerical leverage requirement in statute would be appropriate,” Geithner wrote. To impose “fixed, numerical capital requirements in statute,” the Treasury chief added, would only create an “ossified safety and soundness framework.”
Do you leftists ever feel like…….?
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:34 pm
“He is a product of the Chicago machine.”
Actually he is a product of Rev. Wright and Karl Marx.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
5:35 pm
Oh, now we are getting to the bottom of the story-
Mitch McConnell Versus Barack Obama In A Pre-Existing Condition Smackdown- First, the AP, Kaiser Health News and Mitch McConnell are correct. Folks reassured by an appeal to authority will note that the AP has quotes from two Democrats supporting their interpretation:
http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2010/03/mitch-mcconnell-versus-barack-obama-in-a-preexisting-condition-smackdown.html
Seems as though McConnell knows more about the obomination than obozo does and embarrassed the little socialist, which ain’t sayin much…
So now AJCStooge has been put on retribution duty by the Regime, hahaha, what third world clown show.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:35 pm
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner doesn’t pay his taxes.
Keep up the good fight!
April 6th, 2010
5:36 pm
Fundad….and now for the details? and how about cost?
Tort reform is another of those myths. Does not reduce costs and what about those doctors that are truly bad. Sure a doctor shooting you with silicone from Home Depot needs to be protected from those bad bad lawyers…..after all, its a shame he cant kill/harm more people.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:37 pm
AmVet
Good one!
JAY–
Looks like you struck out on this one, but, hey we’ll have a good time anyway. What else would you expect?
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:37 pm
“Sure a doctor shooting you with silicone from Home Depot ”
Obama would appoint that doctor to be Surgeon General.
@@
April 6th, 2010
5:37 pm
You leftists do know that Obama is just window dressing for a corrupt congress, don’tcha?
Tell me you know that!
He’s like the Queen of England…a figurehead who either can’t or won’t figure it out.
Del
April 6th, 2010
5:39 pm
Once again a really nice partisan try but it’s not about Republicans at least not at this point. It’s about public opinion that shows significant mistrust and skepticism about Obamacare and that fact is documented in every creditable poll. The first real test of the public’s opinion will be reflected in the upcoming November elections. If Republicans score big then the public will be measuring them on how they would address specific healthcare issues. Unfortunately for Democrats they are on the defensive and taking the offence against Republicans in an attempt to divert public opinion, probably won’t succeed but once again, nice try.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:40 pm
“He’s like the Queen of England…a figurehead who either can’t or won’t figure it out.”
Well he does throw like a girl.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:40 pm
Who dat–
Wright’s one thing, but Ima Gonna ain’t no Marxist…a left wing justicialist maybe, a Jacobin, definitely, but not a Marxist….
Pogo
April 6th, 2010
5:42 pm
“Free” universal healthcare. Yea right. Nothing is free. It is only “free” to those that know that they won’t have to end up paying for it and I guess the thought process is “to hell with the people that will”.
A prime example of government intervention that can be abused is the Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA). I don’t know if anyone here has ever dealt with this particular piece of a liberal sponsored nightmare or not, but if you do, you’ll be lucky if you come out keeping your job. At the least, you will be almost driven crazy trying to comply with it. This is a piece of legislation that was sponsored by Christopher Dodd and it is one of the worse the government ever came up with. It too, like Obama’s Healthcare legislation, was open to abuse and believe me, it is heavily abused by both the employees and the employers. And to think, it is quite small compared to this Healthcare legislation. Good luck to those that depend upon the government to fix any of your problems. You are going to need it.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:43 pm
He is NOT like the Queen of England and I resent that…star of a third rate drag show, yes…but don’t go giving him airs…
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
5:43 pm
You leftists do know that Obama is just window dressing for a corrupt congress, don’tcha?
Sounds like a valid observation. If the rightists know that, why is there such vehement hatred directed at Obama as opposed to Congress?
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:44 pm
“Wright’s one thing, but Ima Gonna ain’t no Marxist…a left wing justicialist maybe, a Jacobin, definitely, but not a Marxist….”
Sure he is.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:46 pm
“If the rightists know that, why is there such vehement hatred directed at Obama as opposed to Congress?”
Congress will be voted out in November. We still have two more years of Mao.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
5:46 pm
ATT took a One Billion dollar hit on future medical liabilities thanks to the obomination and the stooges harp in that tort reform wouldn’t save any money.
Have these people no shame?
You could you rent your skull cavities out dudes, just sayin…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:47 pm
POGO
Yep, free universal health care…either blank or get off the pot…it’d be a h3lluva lot cheaper than what’s coming and a whole lot better for the public at large than what we’ve got now…
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:47 pm
“I expected SOMETHING.”
I said the same thing when I went to see Avatar. Instead I got a crappy movie about Dances with Wolves.
getalife
April 6th, 2010
5:48 pm
The cons are not taking this report on their failed party too well.
Did you know they created a shadow rnc and rove begged the cons to fill out the census?
Too fun.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
5:50 pm
“The cons are not taking this report on their failed party too well.”
See ya’s in November!
@@
April 6th, 2010
5:53 pm
Southern Comfort:
Obama doesn’t lead, he follows. I’m tellin’ ‘ya….the guy is in over his head.
Matilda
April 6th, 2010
5:53 pm
“Actually he is a product of Rev. Wright and Karl Marx.”
“You leftists do know that Obama is just window dressing for a corrupt congress, don’tcha?”
*****YAAAAAAWWWWWWWNNNNN!*****
Nope, no answers here, either. Just the usual mas-tur-ba-tory rile up.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:54 pm
“If the rightists know that, why is there such vehement hatred directed at Obama as opposed to Congress?”
Cause a moving target is more challenging?
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
5:55 pm
josef, just like your Jaden/Sybil, this one is fixated on me.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:57 pm
Don’t much care for the current head cheerleader’s policies, but as far as window dressing is concerned. he’s a heap sight easier on the eye than his predecessor…
Who Cares ?
April 6th, 2010
5:57 pm
This guy tried to eat a sandwich and he “double-dislocated” his entire jaw. Now the sandwich shop wants to re-name it… “Double-Dislocator”, “Jaw Wrecker”, “Lock Jaw”…. It happened here in metro Atlanta area. This is a funny story !
http://www.ajc.com/news/north-fulton/wicked-sandwich-leads-to-440313.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
5:59 pm
AmVet–
Kinda scarey, ain’t it…but as Unmentionable says, at our age you takes your compliments where you can get ‘em and be grateful…!
BTW–haven’t heard from Sybill in a while…have I been jilted?
Paul
April 6th, 2010
5:59 pm
josef nix
[[You leave Abba out of this… signed, Dancing Queen]]
Well, Knowing Me, Knowing You, it doesn’t have to be The Winner Takes It All. ‘Cause it’s never about Money, Money, Money, is it? And that, my friend, is The Name of the Game.
AmVet 5:25
Never knew you had such a temper! Does Your Mother Know? Keep it under wraps or somebody’s gonna call a Super Trooper and you’re gonna have your Waterloo!
But as you asked real nice, I’ll honor your request. ‘Cause that’s The Way Old Friends Do!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:00 pm
“Have these people no shame?”
Left wingers hate companies. So no.
@@
April 6th, 2010
6:02 pm
josef:
I’ll take a man’s man any day of the week.
(ISH)
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:02 pm
“Nope, no answers here, either.”
Not that anyone expected Matilda to have any answers.
@@
April 6th, 2010
6:04 pm
ANA World’s Fair of Money in Chicago for 2013-2015–Summers Larry?
Kinda funny considering.
@@
April 6th, 2010
6:05 pm
Rumor has it that Larry Summers is on his way out. He’s pithed.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
6:07 pm
WHo Cares
Thank you! This is just too good…and the fellow’s name! And to have such a sense of self-irony about it all….
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
6:08 pm
AmVet
I have some crushing news. Your leg-humper is two-timing you. He’s been on Granny Godzilla all day next door at Cynthia’s.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
6:10 pm
@@
“I’ll take a man’s man any day of the week.”
Unmentionable says to tell you I’m already taken….
ISH
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
6:12 pm
Why is Mrs. G at Cynthia’s?
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
6:13 pm
PAUL
Thank You for the Music
Paul
April 6th, 2010
6:22 pm
josef nix
I say ‘you’re welcome.’
I Do, I Do, I Do.
@@
April 6th, 2010
6:22 pm
There’s just something very insincere about Obama. His cabinet members get recognition before the miners who lost their lives?
BTW, what is he doing talking about his faith?
Let’s hear the outrage from you leftists….the same outrage you displayed when Bush did it.
If, however, you feel he’s not being sincere, you get a passover.
@@
April 6th, 2010
6:23 pm
Whoops! forgot the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaSU-nhf5_g
Paul
April 6th, 2010
6:24 pm
@@
Very ecumenical of you.
Rather like the Pres’s Easter remarks.
Ask them next time Jay
April 6th, 2010
6:28 pm
Jay next time you talk to them, ask them if they insist on calling people here without documentation illegal aliens, will they at least be consistent and call the employers who hire them criminals.
Or is it ok to break the law as long as you refer to each other as “a great American”?
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
6:29 pm
@@
Yeah, I’m a leftist. I heard him on his faith, too. Prop 8. Him and Palin same song and dance…at least Cheney has stood up and said… jus’ sayin…
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
6:29 pm
Congress will be voted out in November.
Which part of Congress? You only have 1/3 of the Senate up for election and the House. Due to gerrymandering, you’re not going to have too much change in the House. So, once again, where is the hatred for Congress? It’s so easy to name call and stuff, but to present actual information, not so easy, huh?
@@
That he is which I believe is part of his plan. He gets credit for anything good but can deflect criticism towards Congress. Perdue has pretty much done the same thing.
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
6:29 pm
Bosch
I’m not sure of her motives, but she is raising the level of conversation over there.
Soothsayer
April 6th, 2010
6:29 pm
At the heart of America’s problems is an economic policy which is designed to keep wages down but consumption up. That necessarily means more bubbles, more debt, more wealth and income inequality, and consequently more strife and social unrest when the gravy train ends. You cannot expect to hollow out a country’s manufacturing base, set up a bunch of McJobs to replace it, and still have consumers spend to support the economy. This is what we are now starting to realize.
Voila. This is why the Fed and Treasury’s “recipe” for “renewed prosperity”– leveraging more debt off stagnant or declining incomes–cannot succeed. Not only are incomes flat, but consumer collateral–home equity and financial wealth– is off a staggering $10 trillion from 2005, even as the stock market has risen 75% off its March 2009 lows and housing in some regions has bounced (temporarily) off its 2009 lows.
The “trick” which worked in 2001-2003 was to drop interest rates to near-zero and eliminate any restrictions on borrowers. The policy “worked” in blowing the housing bubble, but with home equity at a pathetic 38% of real estate owned (and that includes the 30% of homes owned free and clear, without any mortgage debt at all) and financial wealth off $5 trillion, the collateral to back up renewed debt is gone.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
6:31 pm
Ask them…
Jay evidently ain’t goin’ anywhere near the illegal alien-undocumented worker one…and me and SoCo have been ready and rarin’ to square off…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
6:33 pm
I miss Granny G but not bad enough to go calling at Sister C’s…the Romany lady would put a curse on me…
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:35 pm
“Jay evidently ain’t goin’ anywhere near the illegal alien-undocumented worker one”
Maybe they cut his yard?
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
6:35 pm
Kamchak and josef,
Yeah, and I saw where the resident leg humper is all decked out in his usual glory.
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
6:36 pm
josef,
Maybe Jay’s waiting until it comes back into the political arena. Who knows? But he’s definitely broached that topic before.
@@
April 6th, 2010
6:36 pm
If the yearlong congressional saga that produced the sweeping insurance remake was murky and confusing, Sebelius vowed that her process for putting the law into effect will be the opposite — understandable to a typical consumer. “As soon as we know something, we’re going to tell you,” she promised Tuesday.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gxHvN7vnHWa2cgFgqGdlDxFeMgwwD9ETQ8380
I thought they already knew.
Pelosi and Sebelius….two peas for the pods.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
6:38 pm
Hi Bosch,
nearly impossible for me to participate in the “debate” during the day.
However, it’s a blessing as “Who Dat” is a complete moron who posts completely moronic crap.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
6:39 pm
Bosch
Ya think this is his favorite beer:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jthearn/386517867/
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:40 pm
“However, it’s a blessing as “Who Dat” is a complete moron who posts completely moronic crap.”
Jay, I’ve asked you repeatedly what you consider to be a personal attack. Now, if I went and called Midori a complete moron etc.. you’d ban me.
Just curious because you once stated that personal attacks were not welcome here.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:41 pm
I always find it interesting that Midori only shows up to call me names.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:43 pm
“nearly impossible for me to participate in the “debate”
impossible for me to participate in the “debate”
FYT
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
6:44 pm
Do I hear a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmbulance?
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:45 pm
“Do I hear a whaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmbulance?”
Well, you do shoot yourself in the foot……..
Just sayin
md
April 6th, 2010
6:46 pm
“As soon as we know something, we’re going to tell you,”
I guess we won’t ever get told.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
6:46 pm
Who dat…
I don’t know if they cut his yard or not, but I do know they serve his meals and cook his dinners and clean up behind him (got my spies in his crowd!) and odds are they do the janitorial work down to the AJC…but before somebody calls me a hypocrite, I benefit from the Ole Plantation mentality, too…
As Al Stewart would say, “…ah, the more it changes, the more it stays the same, and the hand just rearranges the players in the game…”
Bosch–
It IS an issue…it’s been touted as next on Fierce Advocate’s agenda…
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:46 pm
“I miss Granny G but not bad enough to go calling at Sister C’s”
Well, she does like being around people who hate whitey.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:47 pm
josef nix
true.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:48 pm
“I’m not sure of her motives, but she is raising the level of conversation over there.”
The level was at Pre-School. She took it up to Kindergarten.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:49 pm
“Why is Mrs. G at Cynthia’s?”
Because commies like to converse with each other?
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
6:50 pm
For all you Democratic Party loyalists out there, you should be toasting long and loud Michael Steele and the bumbling RNC.
Talk about bad timing!
Leaked PowerPoint presentations.
Bondage-themed Hollywood nightclubs.
Challenging Rush Limbaugh (publicly!).
Steele’s chief of staff resigning under fire yesterday.
The political consulting firm that’s been advising the RNC skedaddling outta town.
And just this week the Man of Steele saying he has a “slimmer margin for error” because he is an African-American running the RNC.
I can feel that good old GOP circular firing squad cranking up just in time for summer.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
6:50 pm
“Well, she does like being around people who hate whitey.”
She ain’t overly sensitive to the Romany either…
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:51 pm
Gotta love the Left Wingers.
Black conservative tea party backers take heat
They’ve been called Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are used to having to defend their values. Now black conservatives are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white tea party movement—and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation’s first black president.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9ETR1380&show_article=1
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
6:53 pm
Commies like to converse with each other, others like to converse with themselves…
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
6:53 pm
SoCo,
Oh, I definitely think so, but he’d probably drink one and fall into a swoon.
Midori,
It’s only a matter of time before the leg humper implodes and gets banned again, in the meantime, it’s like dealing with a really irritating foot fungus.
josef,
I didn’t mean to imply it isn’t an issue, I’m just saying that maybe he’s waiting until it comes up again on a national scale, or rather full docket. I mean, the haters are in such full swing now, it’d be almost nuts to bring it up for the sake of national security.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
6:54 pm
Southern Comfort,
My man, as a true beer snob, I must say that is superb!
And a robust porter no less!
Kam, any guesses on the over/under this time?
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:55 pm
“It’s only a matter of time before the leg humper implodes and gets banned again, in the meantime, it’s like dealing with a really irritating foot fungus.”
Nah, I have fun watching you gals implode. Midori for instance. Instead of writing anything remotely intelligent, she name calls.
As for you, maybe you should join Granny over on Tucker’s blog. She could use a friend.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
6:56 pm
AmVet,
now why are you picking on that poor, misunderstood black man
you know, the one who has the revolving credit card?
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:56 pm
“Kam, any guesses on the over/under this time?”
Better question: Have you figured out by now that Los Angeles is not a state?
Midori
April 6th, 2010
6:56 pm
Boschie,
at least a foot fungus has interesting qualities
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:57 pm
“at least a foot fungus has interesting qualities”
You should know.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
6:58 pm
I must add, a foot fungus probably is more literate as well.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
6:59 pm
“I must add, a foot fungus probably is more literate as well.”
You ain’t none too bright is ya?
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:00 pm
Awe, another bed wetting left winger bites the dust at PMSNBC.
MSNBC Suspends David Shuster ‘Indefinitely’
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/06/msnbc-suspends-david-shuster-indefinitely/
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
7:01 pm
Who dat
McGlowan is somebody to keep an eye on and Mississippi’s first district is full of surprizes…an ornery lot who ain’t afraid to march to their own drummers…
jt
April 6th, 2010
7:02 pm
A reporter even asking a federal politician about health insurance shows how far we have fallen.
Sad.
Regardless, McConnel and Chambliss are so full of federal corn subsidies, they will never answer anything coherently. If Jay were to ask the only honest federal politician, he would answer thus-
Frustratingly, this legislation does not deal at all with the real reasons access to healthcare is a struggle for so many – the astronomical costs. If tort reform was seriously discussed, if the massive regulatory burden on healthcare was reduced and reformed, if the free market was allowed to function and apply downward pressure on healthcare costs as it does with everything else, perhaps people wouldn’t be so beholden to insurance companies in the first place. If costs were lowered, more people could simply pay for what they need out of pocket, as they were able to do before government got so involved. Instead, in the name of going after greedy insurance companies, the federal government is going to make people even more beholden to them by mandating that everyone buy their product! Hefty fines are due from anyone found to have committed the heinous crime of not being a customer of a health insurance company. We will need to hire some 16,500 new IRS agents to police compliance with all these new mandates and administer various fines. So in government terms, this is also a jobs bill. Never mind that this program is also likely to cost the private sector some 5 million jobs.
Of course, the most troubling aspect of this bill is that it is so blatantly unconstitutional and contrary to the ideals of liberty. Nowhere in the constitution is there anything approaching authority for the Federal government to do any of this. The founders would have been horrified at the idea of government forcing citizens to become consumers of a particular product from certain government approved companies. 38 states are said to already be preparing legal and constitutional challenges to this legislation, and if the courts stand by their oaths, they will win. Protecting the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, should be the court’s responsibility. Citizens have a responsibility over their own life, but they also have the liberty to choose how they will live and protect their lives. Healthcare choices are a part of liberty, another part that is being stripped away. Government interference in healthcare has already infringed on choices available to people, but rather than getting out of the way, it is entrenching itself, and its corporatist cronies, even more deeply.
Ron Paul
And the left is cheering.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:03 pm
“And the left is cheering.”
And imploding.
Bosch
April 6th, 2010
7:03 pm
Nice that who dat recognizes himself as a leg humping, swooning foot fungus.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:06 pm
“Nice that who dat recognizes himself as a leg humping, swooning foot fungus.”
It’s nice to know Bosch is a hypocrite of monumental levels. Do us all a favor Bocshy, don’t ever lecture anyone about being “mean” to anyone else.
Hypocrite thy name is Bosch.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
7:06 pm
Bosch–
I think he’s waiting for his handlers to direct him…and they’re waiting to see which way the wind blows…
jt
April 6th, 2010
7:06 pm
“And imploding.”
True, most are. The smart ones are joining the Tea Party. Ha Ha. Ha Ha Ha Ha.
This time next month, Jay will be writing an article defending the Tea Party.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:07 pm
Bosch, it is beyond comprehension to me that he would come back from his banishment to the blogging land of nod and do virtually the exact same cr@p all over again!
Call me crazy, but that’s crazy!
A bizarre blogging death wish…
Soothsayer
April 6th, 2010
7:07 pm
It’s the country with the world’s largest foreign exchange reserves, built out of a gigantic and dynamic export machine. Yet, in recent weeks, it’s being called a bubble.
All of a sudden, China is out of favour with some big name investors, like Mr Marc Faber. Mr Jim Chanos, a well-known hedge fund manager, thinks disaster is lurking.
Citibank economists, led by Mr William Buiter, a former Bank of England policymaker, warns of a collapse, as does Harvard’s Mr Kenneth Rogoff, also a former Chief Economist of the IMF.
On the surface, it’s a surprising prediction.
How could the world’s fastest growing economy having over $ 2 trillion in its kitty be talked about so cavalierly? China has come out of last year’s global economic crisis more or less unscathed, thanks to the rapid fire response of its government, which has been unsparing in its fiscal and monetary stimuli.
Engineered boom
Precisely, say critics. The economy is in the midst of an engineered boom – ‘the greatest bubble in history’, one calls it.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:07 pm
“This time next month, Jay will be writing an article defending the Tea Party. ”
But his boss Rahm Emanuel won’t let him.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:08 pm
“Bosch, it is beyond comprehension to me that he would come back from his banishment to the blogging land of nod and do virtually the exact same cr@p all over again!”
Did you ever figure out that Los Angeles isn’t a state?
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
7:08 pm
AmV
I’ve had my fair share of those. These, however, are my two favorites:
http://www.paulaner-kundenportal.de/191.0.12405fb8377d955e668620d87ef22332.html?PHPSESSID=12405fb8377d955e668620d87ef22332
and
http://www.stonebrew.com/arrogantbastard/
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:09 pm
“A bizarre blogging death wish…”
Huh, I don’t seem to recall any name calling on my end.
Unless Jay finds something he ain’t gone ban me none.
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
7:10 pm
Bosch
You left out “pearl clutching.”
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:11 pm
Who Dat’s been making phone calls again: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/ns/msnbc_tv-hardball_with_chris_matthews#36201318
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
7:12 pm
AmV
I’ve had my fair share of those. These, however, are my two favorites:
http://www.paulaner-kundenportal.de/191.0.12405fb8377d955e668620d87ef22332.html?PHPSESSID=12405fb8377d955e668620d87ef22332
and
http://www.stonebrew.com/beers/
The last beer on the year-round release list is the second. The blogonator didn’t like it when I linked directly to that page.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:12 pm
“Who Dat’s been making phone calls again:”
Nah, I don’t waste my time on people who average 10 viewers per week.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
7:13 pm
Ha ha…
The moderator does indeed have good taste in beer!!
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:14 pm
you could, at least, try to disguise your voice next time………
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:14 pm
Come on Midori, be a pro and throw out better insults. Let’s see how far you can go!
Jay
April 6th, 2010
7:15 pm
Let me jump in with two points here.
One, halt the name-calling. Some of you are letting Whodat get under your skin and provoke you into breaking the rules here. Stop.
Two, Whodat, your entire purpose here seems to be to provoke others, Not debate, discuss — provoke. There’s no excuse for the namecalling directed your way, but if provocation continues to be your sole purpose for being here you won’t be here.
Now, back to the Red Sox/Yankees…
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:15 pm
“you could, at least, try to disguise your voice next time………”
That the best you can do? How about calling me a few names!
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:16 pm
SoCo, I’m just so so with most of the German brews. (Sacrilege, I know!) Not a huge pilsner guy
But the Arrogant Bastard? Pure nectar. You sir know your beer!
And to double your fun, but shorten the party, if you catch my drift:
http://www.stonebrew.com/doublebastard/
@@
April 6th, 2010
7:17 pm
Raising the level of conversation!!?!!
Granny Godzilla: I saw scuttlebut regarding a “tiger type” scandal brewing for one of the Fox personalities as well…..
More like getting off on the chance to peek into someone elses bedroom.
Really! Does anyone but you and Granny care about this kinda stuff, Kamchak?
I sure don’t.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:17 pm
“Some of you are letting Whodat get under your skin and provoke you into breaking the rules here.”
Oh yeah Jay, I really provoked Midori into calling me a moron…..
“Two, Whodat, your entire purpose here seems to be to provoke others”
Uh yeah, especially when “others” have called me moron etc…. So…….
“There’s no excuse for the namecalling directed your way, but if provocation continues to be your sole purpose for being here you won’t be here.”
Ah, so other people calling me names will………get me banned?????????
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:18 pm
SoCo, I’m just so so with most of the German brews. (Sacrilege, I know!) Not a huge pilsner guy
But the Arrogant B@st@rd? Pure nectar. You sir know your beer!
And to double your fun, but shorten the party, if you catch my drift:
http://tinyurl.com/yzzl6lj
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:18 pm
@@
Ok, you gotta help me out here.
Jay writes: but if provocation continues to be your sole purpose for being here you won’t be here.
So in plain English, he means, I will get banned for other people calling me names…….
The logic……?
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
7:19 pm
Who dat said, ” ‘“Both are disgraceful excuses for “representatives” of we the people…’
Says the guy who thinks Los Angeles is a state.”
I hope you do not live in a glass house. Tell me. Does Palin still think Africa is a country, or has she managed to take a correspondence course in geography by now?
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:20 pm
looks like Karzai learned a lot from the Bush administration.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:20 pm
“Two, Whodat, your entire purpose here seems to be to provoke others, Not debate”
Jay, when other “people” are calling Tea Party people racists, tea b@ggers, etc………. it’s kind of hard not to fight back. But guess what, I have NOT called ANYONE a name.
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:21 pm
who dat
You know as I was reading through the posts most of the give and take was fairly civil until you showed up, then everything changed. Agitating and annoying you are like the poison ivy in this blog. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, just unnecessary.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:21 pm
“Tell me. Does Palin still think Africa is a country, or has she managed to take a correspondence course in geography by now?”
That has what to do with AmVet’s problem with state abbreviations?
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:21 pm
eyes,
speaking of Palin, she’s going to stump for Michelle Bachmann in Minnesota this weekend.
Two peas.
One pod.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
7:21 pm
Red Sox-Yankees?
I can’t bring myself to watch any game that has that abomination from Hell, the DH, in it. I won’t even watch an inter-league game.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:22 pm
Hi Mick
Hi AmVet
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:22 pm
“You know as I was reading through the posts most of the give and take was fairly civil until you showed up, then everything changed.”
Of course! It’s all my fault. Darn! Let me get this straight, it’s perfectly fine for left wingers to name call etc… but when someone confronts them by throwing their own hypocrisy in their face…it’s bad?
Jay
April 6th, 2010
7:23 pm
Whodat;
Does this look familiar?
“Come on Midori, be a pro and throw out better insults. Let’s see how far you can go!”
“Whodat” must be Cajun for “Who, me?”
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:24 pm
who dat
There are people here who can agree to disagree without the condescending attitude and disrespect of one’s opinion.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
7:25 pm
AmV
I haven’t had the double yet, but I have one of Stone’s Russian Stout waiting on any special event. I’ve been looking for one in particular (Pirminator by Parkbrau) but can’t find it. It’s German, of course, so maybe I’ll get my hands on it when I make it across the Atlantic.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:26 pm
ROFL!!
And I’m not even Cajun
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:26 pm
AmVet, Southern Comfort,
forget German. Japanese is the way to go!
Try Sapporro.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:27 pm
Back to the Red Sox/Yankees?
Dagnabbit. I’m not at all into jealousy but I shore do wish I had MLBN!
Hillbilly, I love your baseball and music and history and overall life knowledge, but bro you gotta let up on the detestable going on 40 year DH.
Sure if either of us was King it would be gone, but we ain’t…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
7:27 pm
eyeshaveit
“Tell me. Does Palin still think Africa is a country, or has she managed to take a correspondence course in geography by now?”
Yeah, she studied under Professor Obama. She now knows it’s one of the 57 states!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:28 pm
“Does this look familiar?”
By that time she’d already called me fungus and a moron.
You were saying?
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
7:28 pm
Amen Mick!!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:28 pm
“There are people here who can agree to disagree without the condescending attitude and disrespect of one’s opinion.”
Did you not say that I had lime disease this morning?
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:28 pm
I’ve found, when called on the carpet, sometimes the best response is no response.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
7:29 pm
Midori
I think I tried that one before. It gets harder to remember each day. The only continent I haven’t had beer from is Africa, unless you count Miller since it was purchased by SAB.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:30 pm
““Whodat” must be Cajun for “Who, me?””
Noticed you overlooked the previous 15 condescending comments by a few other bloggers.
Just sayin.
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:30 pm
Mcconnell and chambliss an undynamic duo if there ever was one. Kentucky had a chance to get rid of mitch but he scrapped out a win and the country is worse off for it. What kind of person is only interested in parliamentary manuevers just to obstruct? A loser who puts country last.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
7:31 pm
AmVet
Well don’t even get me started on pitch counts and quality starts.
jt
April 6th, 2010
7:32 pm
For the lefties who attend their first tea party party.
1. Wearing Birkenstocks and smelling like Patchouli will arouse suspicions.
2. Do not wear Code Pink or GreenPeace shirts.
3. Racial slurs are to be avoided.
4. Do not be overly concerned about visible firearms.
5. Hat removed and hand placed upon heart required for National Anthem.
6. Unlike lefty events, civility and respect are mandatory.
7. Respect your elders.
I am just trying to help. We are all tea partiers now. Except Kamchak.
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:33 pm
who dat
**There are people here who can agree to disagree without the condescending attitude and disrespect of one’s opinion.”**
**Did you not say that I had lime disease this morning?**
Only because you said you had a tick…tick..tick
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:34 pm
“What kind of person is only interested in parliamentary manuevers just to obstruct?”
Pelosi
Reid
Kerry
Biden
@@
April 6th, 2010
7:34 pm
Who dat?
Ok, you gotta help me out here.
I’ll do my best. It looks like you could be banned due to the weak will of others. Doesn’t seem fair to me.
In other words, they bruise easily. Their problem, not yours.
I went back to the previous thread to see how things started out. You posted a coupl’a good links…brought things to my attention that I would not have known otherwise. Some leftist suffered a knee-jerk and it was off and limping from there.
Aaahhhhh, don’t take it personally, AmVet….it was what it was.
Bob, weave, jab…JAB! Online pugilism at its finest.
Have I mentioned I’m a big boxing fan? Couldn’t tell ‘ya the names or rankings but I DO LIKE a good fight.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:35 pm
“Only because you said you had a tick…tick..tick”
AH, well I was just going off of what Kamchak wrote.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:36 pm
SoCo, my experience is that pretty much everything by Stone is great.
And for me that’s the trick, find a brewery I really like and then have fun. Even so, some times I run into a bust, but generally I’ve had great luck.
Three of my favorites:
The aforementioned Stone (Escondido, Ca.)
Dogfish Head (Milton, De.)
Unibroue (Chambly, Québec)
And very sadly we lost one of the best in the country about six years ago – Dogwood Brewery, Atlanta, Ga.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:36 pm
“It looks like you could be banned due to the weak will of others. Doesn’t seem fair to me.”
That’s exactly my thought.
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:38 pm
who dat
See, just a little misunderstanding.
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
7:39 pm
I’ve found, when called on the carpet, sometimes the best response is no response.
Ain’t happenin’.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
7:40 pm
AmV
I’m a member of the German/Belgian camp. Lately, I’ve been sampling the microbreweries here. That’s how I got turned on to Stone. Troegs (Harrisburg, PA) has some good ones. I didn’t find anything from them that I didn’t like. Typically, I’ll choose a Hefe first and an IPA as a backup.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:40 pm
Hi Kammie
oh well
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:41 pm
“Well don’t even get me started on pitch counts and quality starts.”
Yeah, some of the stats and numerology in the game is very obtuse and frankly pretty useless in my opinion.
But my biggest gripe is how the umps have purposely taken the strike zone hostage.
(Remember when there was an AL and an NL strike zone?????)
I swear to you know who, if they can’t get it right, just ditch them and put in the K zone!
Otherwise they do a heckuva job in the field (generally)…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
7:42 pm
Okay, now, I already tolja…the SPDDDD takes high umbrage at the attack on Who dat’s monniker…
And Who dat is NOT Cajun..even though Cajuns use it…it’s origins are obscure, but most likely it comes from the jazz musicians and seems to have become a part of the popular language of ALL South Louisianans sometime around the turn of the last century.
I’m not for banning anybody—and I’m particularly thin skinned…
SoCo–
Try some of the South African ones…not a beer aficionado myself, but I’ve heard some speak highly thereof…
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:44 pm
Midori
Sorry – good evening…got that satellite yet?
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:45 pm
“And Who dat is NOT Cajun..even though Cajuns use it…it’s origins are obscure, but most likely it comes from the jazz musicians and seems to have become a part of the popular language of ALL South Louisianans sometime around the turn of the last century.”
Once and for all, I am a SAINTS fan. Nothing more nothing less.
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
7:45 pm
Hiya Midori. Last year I gave you some advice on honey as a homeopathic treatment for pollen allergies. Did you try it? If so, has it worked for you this allergy season?
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:46 pm
SoCo, most people don’t know it but the tiny country of Belgium is arguably the world’s greatest beer nation. Countless renown breweries and beers. And if you like their doubles, triples and quadruples, you could easily die such that the mortician could not get the smile of your face…
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:46 pm
“There are people here who can agree to disagree without the condescending attitude and disrespect of one’s opinion.”
Of course, it’s when one gets name called etc.. that is a problem. Yeah, I provoke because this is a one-sided blog.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:47 pm
“most people don’t know it but the tiny country of Belgium is arguably the world’s greatest beer nation.”
Chimay being one of the best.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
7:48 pm
AmVet said, “Bosch, it is beyond comprehension to me that he would come back from his banishment to the blogging land of nod and do virtually the exact same cr@p all over again!
Call me crazy, but that’s crazy!
A bizarre blogging death wish…”
Ah, don’t be so hard on poor who dat. Why don’t we take up a little collection and send him out to LA for a little R&R at the RNC’s favorite bondage club. I’m sure the ladies there will – ahem- whip him into shape.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:48 pm
Almost time for Lost.
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:49 pm
**Yeah, I provoke because this is a one-sided blog.**
No, its not and you don’t provoke – you irritate, not because of your views but the way you present them.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:49 pm
“Ah, don’t be so hard on poor who dat. Why don’t we take up a little collection and send him out to LA for a little R&R at the RNC’s favorite bondage club. I’m sure the ladies there will – ahem- whip him into shape.”
Yeah, maybe Bill Clinton and John Edwards could join me!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:50 pm
“No, its not and you don’t provoke – you irritate, not because of your views but the way you present them.”
LOL!!!!!! So I’m the ONLY one who irritates people on this blog? Interesting.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:50 pm
don’t have it yet Mick — waiting for my bonus money
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
7:51 pm
AmVet
“you could easily die such that the mortician could not get the smile off your face…”
From a yiddische MOT this comes…! Love it!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:52 pm
“Why don’t we take up a little collection and send him out to LA ‘
Louisiana or Los Angeles? Someone was pretty embarrassed this morning when they found out Los Angeles was not a state. LOL
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:52 pm
Midori
When you get it check out mike malloy at 9pm – he’s a hoot..
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:53 pm
Hiya Midori.
Me too. Please forgive me. With all of the “fun” going on here tonight I didn’t mean to ignore you.
Last year I gave you some advice on honey as a homeopathic treatment for pollen allergies. Did you try it? If so, has it worked for you this allergy season?
Kam, PLEASE share the love. Me and my sinuses are very interested!
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:53 pm
Kammie,
talk about timing!!!
haven’t tried it yet. There’s a woman at work selling local honey, and I j;ust ordered some.
Will let you know the results.
Speaking of pollen, now I know why I abhor pea soup.
YUK!!!!!!!!!!
Jay
April 6th, 2010
7:54 pm
You guys are giving him exactly what he wants.
Sox 1, Yanks 1.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
7:55 pm
Midori said, “AmVet, Southern Comfort,
forget German. Japanese is the way to go!
Try Sapporro.”
I lived near Sapporo in my youth. They make a great beer there.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:56 pm
Mick,
Mike is my neighbor!!!! small world!!!
Not next door, but in the same neighborhood
A gang of us have met up several times at Manuel’s.
I adore Mike!!!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:56 pm
“You guys are giving him exactly what he wants.”
Bondage in Vegas? I don’t want that, Jay.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:57 pm
@@
Quick question. Is that same blogger who infiltrated your personal e-mail address still on this blog? Just curious.
@@
April 6th, 2010
7:57 pm
Oooohhhh, I see how this works. When the “opportunity” for leftists to launch attacks is taken away, all they have left is an interactive discussion about their irritated nasal cavities.
Alrighty din!
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
7:58 pm
Who dat…
Calme-toi, mon ami, I was defending you with that post…you were charged with being a racist for your use of the monniker and then it was decided it was Cajun–our great sophisticates of the opinion that Cajun somehow is anything identifiably Louisiana…just trying to defend my heritage
(It’s not Cajun…Unmentionable’s Chahta line is, yeah, Cajun Indians…)
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:58 pm
Jay – sometimes you just have to get it out – go marlins..what I wouldn’t give to throw out a first pitch..I know I can still zing it..
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
7:58 pm
Southern Comfort said, “Midori, I think I tried that one before. It gets harder to remember each day. The only continent I haven’t had beer from is Africa, unless you count Miller since it was purchased by SAB.”
Got a recommendation for a good beer from Antartica?
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:59 pm
“When the “opportunity” for leftists to launch attacks is taken away, all they have left is an interactive discussion about their irritated nasal cavities.”
LOL!!!!!! Pretty much.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:00 pm
josef nix
Oh I know, and I just wanted to clarify that by stating WHY I chose that name.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:00 pm
Oh boy, Maxine Waters is in……..hot water. No pun intended.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:01 pm
“Got a recommendation for a good beer from Antartica?”
Polar Beer.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:02 pm
“You guys are giving him exactly what he wants.”
Always happy to be accomodating…
But, really, he does have a point…it’s just an argument of form over substance…he’s no worse than the rest of us
@@
April 6th, 2010
8:02 pm
Who dat?:
There was no infiltration of my e-mail address. An invasion of privacy nonetheless.
Is that person here? I highly suspect she is incognito(s).
No biggie! It’s how they play the game.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:04 pm
Who dat @ 8:01
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:04 pm
“But, really, he does have a point…it’s just an argument of form over substance…he’s no worse than the rest of us”
I’m actually pretty civil. Just ask HDB. We have plenty of great debates.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:04 pm
“That’s a good one!”
Made that one up off the top of my head. I’m quick like that!
Mick
April 6th, 2010
8:06 pm
josef
Blessed are the peacemakers…..
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:06 pm
“Is that person here? I highly suspect she is incognito(s).”
Just curious and I could probably guess from about 2 different bloggers.
“No biggie! It’s how they play the game.”
Goes beyond a game when they make it personal. Gotta love the left wing crazies.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
8:06 pm
AmVet
Yeah I remember; the NL was the low strike and the AL was the high strike. The AL had the old outside chest protector.
Remember how starters used to get upset at being pulled in the 7th or 8th?
Another thing I’d like to see is the same strike zone for everybody. If it’s a strike to a rookie, make it a strike to a star too.
Grumpy
April 6th, 2010
8:07 pm
The watered down mandate in the Democrats’ bill won’t do squat either, for what it’s worth.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
8:07 pm
Who dat said, ” ‘Why don’t we take up a little collection and send him out to LA ‘
Louisiana or Los Angeles? Someone was pretty embarrassed this morning when they found out Los Angeles was not a state. LOL”
The land of the Angels not the Saints.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:08 pm
josef nix
Hmmm, might be cool to actually make and brew a beer and call it that. I could see the beer label being white with fur. Maybe the beer case could be shaped like an igloo.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:09 pm
“Another thing I’d like to see is the same strike zone for everybody. If it’s a strike to a rookie, make it a strike to a star too.”
The best person I have ever personally seen hit ANY strike zone perfectly is Greg Maddox. Best modern day pitcher.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:09 pm
“The land of the Angels not the Saints.”
Thanks for clearing that one up.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
8:10 pm
Jay said, “You guys are giving him exactly what he wants.
Sox 1, Yanks 1.”
But, Jay, is baseball still a man’s sport? I already miss college basketball.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:10 pm
“But, Jay, is baseball still a man’s sport? ”
Considering Obama’s pitch…..I’d say it’s a MANS MANS sport. Not a girly man like Obama.
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
8:11 pm
AmVet
Ingesting locally produced raw honey will help alleviate or eliminate allergy symptoms. Unfortunately in your case, it’s not a cure for what you’re going through. Start eating it now for the next round as it takes time for the body to build up resistance.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:11 pm
“I already miss college basketball.”
I miss college football. No more Tebow. No more Bradford. No more McCoy.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
8:12 pm
theyeshaveit
If I tell you, the penguins will get me!!! I was sworn to secrecy.
AmV
Speaking of Belgians and leaving with a smile on your face, that sounds like the need for Delirium Tremens from Melle. The pink elephant on the label is what got me to try it, to much satisfaction I might add.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:13 pm
If obozo isn’t the most ri-d-ic-ulous person that ever lived he is running a real close second, just sayin….
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:13 pm
Who dat—
Nah, this is Antarctica–let’s go with penguins maybe a little clip from “Happy Feet”
Mick
For they shall get shot in both cheeks!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:14 pm
“Nah, this is Antarctica–let’s go with penguins maybe a little clip from “Happy Feet””
Penguins are weird.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
8:14 pm
Who dat said, ” ‘Got a recommendation for a good beer from Antartica?’
Polar Beer.”
Who dat, I actually think that was funny and clever.
Really.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:15 pm
Who dat..
Watch the girly man stuff…I might have to put you on my “snicker-snicker” list, eh sweet and cutie Blogmeister…
Mick
April 6th, 2010
8:15 pm
josef
**For they shall get shot in both cheeks!**
OK – so try not to sit down…
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:16 pm
“Who dat, I actually think that was funny and clever.”
Thank you!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:16 pm
“Watch the girly man stuff…”
Sorry, maybe I should have wrote, he throws WORSE than any girl I have ever seen throw a ball. At least he wasn’t wearing mom jeans.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:17 pm
SoCo
The pink elephant on the label…you mean a certain light in the loafers Senator from a neighboring state…
DoggoneGA
April 6th, 2010
8:17 pm
SoCo…I saw you were discussing beer. I’m not a beer drinker, but have you ever tried Rolling Rock?
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
8:19 pm
Did anyone here see the segment at half time of the Final Four in which Obama skunked Clark Kellog, the former Ohio State star? I have not seen him pitch, but he sure does have a sweet shot from the corner.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:19 pm
I like these:
New Belgium, Goose Island, Kona and Sweetwater.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:19 pm
For some reason, my brew choices won’t post.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
8:19 pm
Kam, damn and thanks.
SoCo, the Tremens (and Nocturnum) are both exquisite.
And anything that means – (colloquially, the DTs, “the shakes”, “the horrors”, “the heebie geebies”,”the fear”, “the abdabs”, “the staggers and jags”, “the jimjams”, “jazz hands”, “the shakes and the heaves”, or “the rats”; afflicted individuals referred to as “jitterbugs” in 1930s Harlem slang; literally, “shaking delirium” or “‘trembling madness” in Latin) – is worth a try!
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:20 pm
Mick
“..so try not to sit down…”
Just shut up, eh?
Hey folks, I’m happy. It’s afer sunset… ham and cheese on white bread with mayo and buttermilk, jambalaya and cheesecake…no more misery until fall!
@@
April 6th, 2010
8:20 pm
Who dat?:
Goes beyond a game when they make it personal.
No harm (other than what had, up until then, been a somewhat congenial relationship). I never forget a wrong.
Gotta love the left wing crazies.
No I don’t. I just have to strive to be anything but….
To be perfectly honest, when I first came here, I held some of my own liberal tendencies. jay’s leftists have shown me that there is no value in holding onto them. If they ARE what I WAS then I have lost nothing.
TaxPayer
April 6th, 2010
8:22 pm
Who dat? LA
What more could one need to know about that one. Yawn.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:22 pm
“I have not seen him pitch, but he sure does have a sweet shot from the corner.”
Well, I’d be happy to supply the presidents “awful” pitching style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSLmyEnzscU&feature=related
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
8:22 pm
I tried it years ago. I should have majored in biochemistry in college with all the fermented beverages I consumed.
josef
As funny as that is, I must say, it’ actual pink elephants. They even have a fan group that’s related to the Pink Elephant. Wiki says, “In 1992, the “Confrerie van de Roze Olifant” (Brotherhood of the Pink Elephant) was founded to promote Delirium Tremens and other beers of Melle.”
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:23 pm
Can’t even name one freaking player from his “favorite” baseball team, what a stooge.
stands for decibels
April 6th, 2010
8:23 pm
Without knowing where the thread’s turned, I just wanted to say:
thank you, Jay, for asking the questions on nearly everyone’s mind…..
like she said.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:23 pm
“What more could one need to know about that one. Yawn.”
LOL!!!!! Sure thing there TaxPayer.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:25 pm
“Can’t even name one freaking player from his “favorite” baseball team, what a stooge.”
Yeah, and then he praised Cubs fans. What’s up with that?????? Cubs and Sox fans HATE each other. He also said he was an A’s fan when he lived in Hawaii.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:25 pm
“To be perfectly honest, when I first came here, I held some of my own liberal tendencies. jay’s leftists have shown me that there is no value in holding onto them. If they ARE what I WAS then I have lost nothing.”
Interesting.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
8:27 pm
Just a thought. When talking about health care in t his country, there are some among us who will point out the flaws of the “public option” in Europe or Canada. Yes, I am aware of the people who cross the border from Canada seeking more immediate medical care here. And last night, I became aware that until recently British physicians were not allow to practice surgical skills on cadavers (which is, of course part of any medical curriculum here in the US). So, there are some drawbacks to “social” medicine. But is anyone aware that a number of Americans get out of town to have surgeries performed in Thailand? And the skills, cost and patient care are extraordinarily good. I mean I saw hospitals that look like luxury hotels. Then in Japan, people pay into a system (not mandated mind you) and receive very good medical care through government plans. But governments plans in Japan are supplemented by special, private plans. So you can have general care on a government plan and get cancer insurance via the private plan.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
8:27 pm
AmV
I didn’t know that was the meaning of the name until after I tried it. I didn’t even associate the name with DT’s.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:27 pm
SoCo
Thanks for the clarification…like I said, not a beer aficionado and, evidently, it shows!
@@
Now don’t go jumping on ALL us liberals… ISH
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:28 pm
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) – They’ve been called Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are used to having to defend their values. Now black conservatives are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white tea party movement—and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation’s first black president.
Just sayin….
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:29 pm
AmVet
And I thought the Heebie Jeebies were a gay dance group from Ramat Gan…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:30 pm
IR/YW
Like I said earlier, keep your eye on McGlowan and Mississippi’s First…
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
8:31 pm
JOSEF!!!! Don’t make me spit up my beer. That 8:29 was funny as hell!!!!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:32 pm
I’ll keep an eye on McGlowan, no problem wit dat, but Mississippi?
Not gonna happen…
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
8:32 pm
Who dat?
I’m a huge Greg Maddux fan but he often got a generous call on the outside corner.
joan
April 6th, 2010
8:33 pm
maybe it is possible to give healthcare insurance for pre-existing conditions, on condition, that the pre-existing conditions were from birth, and not the result of trauma. As example, if somebody sits on their hands until they have an accident, then the heck with them. If someone is born with a pre-disposition to cancer, or some other devastating disease, then they get help. I don’t see why pre-existing conditions exclusions can’t apply to those who willfully delay getting coverage. They do have some responsibility for themselves—or maybe I am old school in thinking that.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
8:37 pm
“I’m a huge Greg Maddux fan but he often got a generous call on the outside corner.”
HD, think Eric Gregg. The man who never saw a pitch within 12 inches of the outside edge that he wouldn’t call a strike…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:40 pm
IR/YW
Mississippi’s First District is a world unto itself…throw out everything you ever thought the state was, and start over…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:43 pm
I’m watching Hawaii myself, one of the most stupidly democrat districts on Earth and they have a spec elec comin up real soon like. We’ll see.
@@
April 6th, 2010
8:44 pm
Who dat?:
Interesting.
Not really. Give ‘em an inch and they want you to walk the mile-long plank. Nothing short of that will suffice.
Be on your guard with their attempts at being nice. Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
—————————————————-
jay:
This in closing for the night–a comment from Cynthia’s:
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
3:46 pm
You’ll be kicked off here and next door again long before then.
Do you really want a blogger being able to predict what you will do? What Cynthia will do? Making threats on behalf of the AJC’s liberal columnists?
I sure as hell wouldn’t.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:45 pm
You can tell the dummycrat party bigshots in Hawaii apart from the tourists, they are the ones with their eyes all bugged out. Duh heat is on.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:47 pm
By the way, Bookman wasn’t lying when he said Sox 1 Yanks 1, it kinda surprised me.
That he didn’t lie.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:48 pm
Oh look, all the little wormy democrats run off to go google “Hawaii spec elec,” hahahaha.
Tea party time!
Fred
April 6th, 2010
8:52 pm
No plan at all is better than what just passed. For the first time, the federal government claims control of the people for FAILING to engage in interstate commerce. We are all becoming slaves to a master that we’re creating.
Here’s a few old but great quotes from Frederic Bastiat. Never heard of him? Why am I not surprised…….
“But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.”
“The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else.”
“Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole—with their common aim of legal plunder—constitute socialism.”
Midori
April 6th, 2010
8:52 pm
Hi Stands
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:55 pm
The kindest word for all of this is fiasco. American troops are risking their lives to implement a counterinsurgency strategy that requires winning popular support in Afghanistan, and the main message from America’s Commander in Chief to the Afghan people is that their government can’t be trusted. That ought to make it easier to win hearts and minds.
Who will be the last soldier to die for obozo’s hissy fit?
Dr. Siggie F
April 6th, 2010
8:56 pm
There is a chance that electroshock therapy might deliver a slight improvement to the mental condition of some of these compulsive blog gnats, but don’t get too hopeful.
Fred
April 6th, 2010
8:56 pm
Another great one:
“Here I encounter the most popular fallacy of our times.
It is not considered sufficient that the law should be just; it must be philanthropic. Nor is it sufficient that the law should guarantee to every citizen the free and inoffensive use of his faculties for physical, intellectual, and moral self-improvement. Instead, it is demanded that the law should directly extend welfare, education, and morality throughout the nation. “
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
9:06 pm
AmVet
Yeah, Eric wasn’t too good on balls and strikes. He was fair though, he missed ‘em for both teams.
Rightwing Troll
April 6th, 2010
9:07 pm
How’s that repealy replacey thingy working out for you sacks???
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
9:10 pm
Check back in November, nut hugger!
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
9:10 pm
There is a chance that electroshock therapy might deliver a slight improvement to the mental condition of some of these compulsive blog gnats, but don’t get too hopeful.
I actually knew someone who had shock treatments. He said, “They’re rough when you’re getting them but they’re actually good for you”. For whatever that’s worth.
moonbat betty
April 6th, 2010
9:11 pm
Funny of the day:
Women march topless in Portland without incident
The marchers want to call attention to the double standard in society’s attitudes toward male and female nudity.
Ty McDowell, who organized the march, said she was “enraged” by the turnout of men attracted to the demonstration. The purpose, she said, was for society to have the same reaction to a woman walking around topless as it does to men without shirts on.
However, McDowell said she plans to organize similar demonstrations in the future and said she would be more “aggressive” in discouraging oglers.
at least the teabaqquers keep their shirts on…
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
9:12 pm
“How’s that repealy replacey thingy working out for you sacks???”
And here I thought Jay banned that word from being used.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:12 pm
compulsive blog gnats.
Gotta write that one down.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
9:16 pm
SoCo
But don’t go huntin’ gnats with elephant guns…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
9:18 pm
moonbat
teabaqquer..ain’t dat wha-jee put in cee-gar?
soma
April 6th, 2010
9:19 pm
The problem with Liberals is that their core, the very center of their ideology, hinges on violation of the most basic of human rights, as grounded in natural law: the right to property, or as worded by the founders, “the pursuit of happiness” (meaning labor, and the fruits of that labor).
It is wasted effort arguing with someone who disregards the basic rights to life, liberty, and property. Progressives, fascists, liberals, communists….democrats. Call them whatever you like….they all represent something which flies in the face of natural law. In the end, they all advocate what amounts to servitude at the altar of their flawed belief system, which they rationalize through “laws”, which invariably are illegal in that they infringe on basic human rights.
Modern liberalism is the worst type of mental incapacity.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:20 pm
josef
How else can I prove that I can shoot the wings off of them at 100 yards?
moonbat betty
April 6th, 2010
9:20 pm
si, josef, what flavor you like?
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:21 pm
Modern liberalism is the worst type of mental incapacity.
I’m guessing that you’re in the mental health field and you have years of clinical trials and other forms of proof to back that up, right?
moonbat betty
April 6th, 2010
9:22 pm
hey SoCo, if you can’t git ‘em with chop sticks.
you can’t git ‘em.
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
9:23 pm
“How’s that repealy replacey thingy working out for you sacks???”
Why don’t you do the Lib two-step for me, Troll:
(1) Claim that insurance companies are evil incarnate.
(2) Praise Obama and the Dems for forcing every citizen to subsidize the same insurance companies you demonized in Step (1).
What a F-ing idiot.
JimJackJoe
April 6th, 2010
9:26 pm
I think soma means that liberals have the worst type of mental illness because its the type that harms other people, in mass.
Liberals are kind of like serial offenders.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:29 pm
betty
It’s more fun if you have a mouthful of golden grain and a match.
JimJackJoe
April 6th, 2010
9:31 pm
Liberals. Sucking the world dry, one “law” at a time.
Maybe we should change the name to something more descriptive… Moocher? Thief? Parasite? Yeah, thats it. Parasite.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
9:38 pm
SoCo
You and my Granny! Incidentally when Granddaddy accused her of hunting gnats with an elephant gun, she said, “well, if the gnats are bothering you and all you’ve got at you disposal is an elephant gun…” Sorta my philosophy…
moonbat…
Luzianne and Montecristo Tubo…
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
9:38 pm
Whiner said, “I’m watching Hawaii myself, one of the most stupidly democrat districts on Earth and they have a spec elec comin up real soon like. We’ll see.”
But Rush Limbaugh just loved health care in Hawaii. LOL.
http://rawstory.com/2010/03/limbaugh-unwittingly-praises-socialized-medicine/
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:39 pm
I guess these people are all Liberal moochers, thiefs, parasites, or whatever label you want to throw on them.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/01/AR2006070100962.html
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:41 pm
josef
When the statement was made about people “clinging to their Bibles and guns”, I took great pride in that. I tell people to be careful how they treat those who do that because they don’t know which one they’re clinging to at that time.
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
9:42 pm
SoCo–I got josef hopping to some Jay-Z the other night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAsqZTwp1lQ
I wanna be forever young……..
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:47 pm
Bruno
I’ve never been a big Jay-Z fan. I should be especially since he’s family now.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
9:47 pm
soma
At the risk of descending into the vulgar, you’re as full of sh*t as a Christmas turkey..the right to one’s property is at the very core of liberalism…secondly liberalism is foundationed on the bare minimum of law…I know you think you know what liberalism is, but I suggest very strongly that you look at its origins in the Latin “liber.”
I will grant you your issues with the political dichotomies of the day and your own dogmatism, but go back and review the philosophy of liberalism and see just how much you and I as Americans owe to its philosophers…we can argue all day long about its so-called adherents who have little better understanding of the -ism than you, but let’s at least speak the English language properly…
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
9:48 pm
soma said, “Modern liberalism is the worst type of mental incapacity.”
Excuse me? When one conjures up a list of the paragons of mental incapacity in the political arena, I would think names like Spiro Agnew, Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin would make it to the top.
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
9:48 pm
Alright, josef, try this one on for size:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jZxR70w3Vs
Maniac
April 6th, 2010
9:49 pm
HR3400, look it up people especially Southern Comfort. Obamacare is a joke and it gives the IRS power to take your tax return.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:50 pm
josef
If your Christmas turkey’s are full of sh*t, might I suggest trying a different brand this coming year?
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
9:55 pm
That’s why I eat dressing instead of stuffing. Ain’t nothin’ in my turkey but air.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:56 pm
Maniac
First, if it’s been signed into law, it is no longer HR3400. I’m guessing you didn’t remember that part from civics. However, if you’re referring specifically to the house bill, it is not law and doesn’t amount to a steaming pile of dogsh*t.
Second, I’m not worried as you are about the IRS. You wanna know why? Those black helicopters and suburbans that you fear, guess who’s usually driving the second suburban???
<<— Drives Blacked-out Suburbans wearing Black suits and shades for a living.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
9:57 pm
Maniac said, “HR3400, look it up people especially Southern Comfort. Obamacare is a joke and it gives the IRS power to take your tax return.”
What is missing here? I would hope that you already send your tax return to the IRS every year.
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
9:58 pm
“go back and review the philosophy of liberalism and see just how much you and I as Americans owe to its philosophers…”
josef–You are absolutely right:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
“Liberalism first became a powerful force in the Age of Enlightenment, rejecting several foundational assumptions that dominated most earlier theories of government, such as hereditary status, established religion, absolute monarchy, and the Divine Right of Kings. The early liberal thinker John Locke, who is often credited for the creation of liberalism as a distinct philosophical tradition, employed the concept of natural rights and the social contract to argue that the rule of law should replace absolutism in government, that rulers were subject to the consent of the governed, and that private individuals had a fundamental right to life, liberty, and property.”
However, just as AmVet likes to point how far the “neo-conservatives” have drifted from traditional conservative philosophy, I don’t see any resemblance between today’s “liberals” and John Locke.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
9:59 pm
For those who think I only listen to 20th century stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZxZ2n2zpw
Mick
April 6th, 2010
10:02 pm
So much fear on the right side of the aisle….yet we still move forward and try to make the best of what most will have….another day in paradise.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
10:03 pm
SoCo
That comment pretty much sealed his fate in my book…elitist to the very core in unguarded moments…I know a lot of my fellow liberals raise a c*ked eyebrow when I say this, but my liberalism is inspired by my study of the scriptures and I have no qualms about using a gun to defend it if called on to have to do so which, pray G-d, I never will.
Bruno–
As I said, that particular song is one of my “credos…”
” Let’s dance in style, lets dance for a while
Heaven can wait we’re only watching the skies
Hoping for the best but expecting the worst
Are you going to drop the bomb or not?
Let us die young or let us live forever
We don’t have the power but we never say never …
…Can you imagine when this race is won
Turn our golden faces into the sun
Praising our leaders we’re getting in tune
The music’s played by the madman …
…Sooner or later they all will be gone
Why don’t they stay young
It’s so hard to get old without a cause
I don’t want to perish like a fading horse
Youth is like diamonds in the sun
And diamonds are forever
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
10:07 pm
HD
Are you listening to the song or looking at the singer?
Bigboy
April 6th, 2010
10:07 pm
The Republican plan is still the same…let the free market dictate healthcare costs.What stuns me is the regular working folk who vote Republican.Let’s see…give huge tax breaks to corporations so they can turn around and lay you off ..so they can continue to shed costs which leads to better stock prices for them.Yeah Reagan pioneered the “trickle down theory of economics(Yeah Ronnie the guy who couldn’t even spell his name by the time he left office)I guess the trickle is slowing to a drip now.It should been a crime for a company to get millions in tax breaks after laying off thousands while posting billions in profit.Yet there are some who will still vote against their self interest by following these clowns…the richest 10 percent.. sure the Republican party is the ticket..but those who make 60 grand or less are delusional….I guess you wont get the message until all of you have seen YOUR job eliminated.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
10:08 pm
SoCo
Both
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
10:12 pm
HD
Amen!!!
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
10:13 pm
josef
I’ve already made peace with me having to use a gun. My only prayer is that I make it home to my family. Like you, if that’s how I have to defend myself, it must be done.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
10:15 pm
Thanks for the music…nice…turkey…? Boar’s Head breast cold cut…you can have the rest of the nasty bird, stuffing, dressing and all!
As for the terms and what they mean…I am a liberal fundametalist and I have little problem entering into a rewarding dialogue with a conservative fundamentalist, or a Christian fundamentalist, Marxist fundamentalist or what have you…we are discussing the fundamentals…so many who go wearing this, that or the other label haven’t the vaguest notion of the -isms fundamentals and thus no starting point. But, given the use of Engrish, call yourself a fundamentalist and see what happens…
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
10:15 pm
HD–A beautiful 20th century number:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIyX8jrd8jM
For everyone on board tonight^^^^^^^^
sssssssssssss
April 6th, 2010
10:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db1s-eV-Bd0&feature=related
yesssssssssss we can AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sssssssssssssssssssssssss
Mick
April 6th, 2010
10:24 pm
Anyone remember the “mod” era?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zeza1xeWKM
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
10:29 pm
Back at ya’ Bruno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZiPT1m-4c&feature=related
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
10:31 pm
“so many who go wearing this, that or the other label haven’t the vaguest notion of the -isms”
I haven’t found a convenient label to reflect my religious views. I don’t see GOD as a separate being who resides somewhere out in space. GOD is the totality.
soma
April 6th, 2010
10:31 pm
Ahhh josef nix, don’t be such a moron. As you seem to have some understanding, you should very well know that “Modern liberalism” (as I’ve referred to it) is essentially the opposite of classic liberalism (which I think you must know).
So, yes, let’s speak the english language properly. Let’s start be reading it properly. And again, to keep the terminology clear, the liberalism you speak of is as far as could be from what a Modern liberal believes.
To be vulgar….read what’s written before posting bulls*%t.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
10:31 pm
“However, just as AmVet likes to point how far the “neo-conservatives” have drifted from traditional conservative philosophy, I don’t see any resemblance between today’s “liberals” and John Locke.”
Damn straight Bro. B,
This lady may have stumbled, but she ain’t never fell…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYBSvn5juIk
Tank
April 6th, 2010
10:31 pm
From CNNMoney.com:
Fed: Recovery may lose steam
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Federal Reserve policymakers are worried that the economic recovery may lose steam going forward, despite recent moderate improvements, according to minutes from their recent policy meeting released Tuesday. … “While participants saw incoming information as broadly consistent with continued strengthening of economic activity, they also highlighted a variety of factors that would be likely to restrain the overall pace of recovery, especially in light of the waning effects of fiscal stimulus and inventory rebalancing over coming quarters,” the minutes said.
How’s that Hope and Change working for ya?
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
10:32 pm
Bruno
If you’re still here, I think you’d get a kick out of this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVrWDPi12zE
moonbat betty
April 6th, 2010
10:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHbVLTRuLkw
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
10:37 pm
“Back at ya’ Bruno”
Awesome, HD!
I’m sure you know the story behind the music, but it’s worth repeating. Around 1980, Steve Winwood found himself at somewhat of a crossroads, both personally and musically. In response, he built a studio in his home, and began recording an album, playing every instrument himself and doing all the technical work as well. “Arc of a Diver” was the result.
Hootenanny Yum Yum
April 6th, 2010
10:37 pm
Take…Stimulate
Take…Stimulate?
Take
Take?
Nothing to Take Anymore
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
10:42 pm
Back at ya, SC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv-zPa9xDEg&feature=related
Howdy, Am–Back in a few minutes…..
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
10:43 pm
“Arc of a Diver” was the result.
Yeah, he hit a home run with it.
On the -ism’s, I don’t think there’s one that really fits me. Maybe we could become “The Ismless”.
Hootenanny Yum Yum
April 6th, 2010
10:45 pm
How come the 2010 Census commercial saying “WE CAN’T MOVE FORWARD UNTIL YOU SEND IT IN” is populated primarily shows people of color?
Hootenanny Yum Yum
April 6th, 2010
10:47 pm
shows > be
????
April 6th, 2010
10:48 pm
I don’t think there’s one that really fits me.
PragmatISM.
(IW&SH)
Fred
April 6th, 2010
10:50 pm
Liberals.
No amount of education can overcome that much stupidity.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
10:53 pm
soma
Well, at least I’m a moron and not an idiot or imbecile…
I think if you read what I wrote, you will see that I adhere to the philosophy of Locke as the fundamental which you and others would call classical liberalism and which I would maintain is Modern liberalism. I go further back than that,though, and view Maimonides as the greatest proponent of the philosophical -ism in a modern sense…as did Spinoza.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
10:54 pm
“Yeah, he hit a home run with it.”
As was the case with “Back in the High Life”. An (under appreciated?) sonic masterpiece…
“The Ismless”
Love that! (Count me in!)
B, been reading some about John Locke. Absolutely fascinating…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt3HXMS0EtE
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
10:55 pm
soma said, “So, yes, let’s speak the english language properly. Let’s start be reading it properly. And again, to keep the terminology clear, the liberalism you speak of is as far as could be from what a Modern liberal believes.”
Hmmm. Hyperventilation does interfere with the quality of one’s English. I counted five errors in soma’s diatribe in which he admonishes Josef on the use of proper English.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
10:59 pm
Bruno
I find the term “believer” fits me…I don’t claim to know and don’t trust those who do…but I do believe and express those beliefs in the terms and structures of the tradition in which I was raised…sort of the “fundamentals” if you will…
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
11:00 pm
“This lady may have stumbled, but she ain’t never fell…”
Am–Last heard this one in a biker bar in North Myrtle Beach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs4y5si8DGs
Dusty
April 6th, 2010
11:00 pm
Well, as usual, my post has been moderated. So what’s new? Nothing. Goodnight.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
11:00 pm
Bruno
I’ve heard that MJ learned the moonwalk from Michael Chambers. Don’t know if it’s true or not. Either way, they both got their moves from this guy here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2gEAvOW2nc&feature=related
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
11:05 pm
We could start a chapter in Panama; call it “The Ismless of Panama”.
Yeah, I know; that was awful.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
11:05 pm
AmVet–
Uncle Ralph, the leprachaun of the hedge school, said he was an “Antiismist!”
theyeshaveit
I’m always scared to make comment on someone else’s Engrish…sure as I do, I’ll make a first rate faux pas…it doesn’t stop me, but it does help bring me back down to planet earth….
Fred
April 6th, 2010
11:07 pm
leave it to a liberal to worry about how somethings being said, ignoring what is being said.
Only a liberal can think its reasonable to take one persons property and give it to someone else, because “they don’t have it and its not fair”.
Trying to reason with Liberals is worthless. They’re too stupid to argue with.
I love reading all of the comments posted after the ajc blogs. Its like seeing what happens in a 4th grade classroom when the teacher is out.
My wager is that 75 out of 100 posters on these boards either pay zero income tax, or are actually realize a net benefit from income tax. I’d also wager that 50% voted for Hank Johnson and think the guy is brilliant.
oy vey.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
11:08 pm
I shall bid you all adieu…
Time to check the eyelids for cracks. If I don’t find them early enough, the sunlight really hurts.
Later all!!!
Dusty
April 6th, 2010
11:15 pm
Would someone please “get after” Bookman tomorrow for me? I will be out of town and won’t be here to tell him what I think of his “moderation”. Could it be “provocation” or “life, liberty , pursuit of happiness” ? I dunno. bye now..
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
11:16 pm
“I find the term “believer” fits me”
I used to have difficulty when directly questioned “Do you believe in GOD?” The best answer I can give is “Yes, but probably not the GOD you’re envisioning.”
To me, it all comes down to how we define the word “spirit”. By definition, a spirit is a non-corporal entity, which makes speaking about it very difficult. Unfortunately, many people “of faith” tend to personify spirits, which puts the discussion back in the realm of mythology. I try to take a scientific approach, and define “spirit” as the intelligence which pervades matter, especially living matter. No one can explain this intelligence, but I think it’s dishonest not to recognize it. The fact that leptons and quarks organize themselves into atomic particles, which organize themselves into atoms, into molecules…..into living tissues, into living beings is nothing short of a miracle.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
11:16 pm
SoCo
Good night!
Fred–
How it’s being said is the key to understanding what is being said…jus’ sayin’
And, L-rd, I wish you’d talk to our accountant. Maybe I should have told him we’re liberals!
TGT
April 6th, 2010
11:17 pm
What to Do About Pre-existing Conditions(John H. Cochrane, professor of finance at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, and author of “Health Status Insurance”):
“(Health insurance) problems are real, but the proposed remedy—even more government intervention—is counterproductive. A market-based, deregulation-focused reform is possible, and it will work.
Health care and insurance are service-oriented, retail businesses. There is only one way to reduce costs in such a business: intense competition for every customer. The idea that the federal government can reduce costs by negotiating harder or telling businesses what to do is a triumph of hope over centuries of experience…
But what about pre-existing conditions?
A truly effective insurance policy would combine coverage for this year’s expenses with the right to buy insurance in the future at a set price. Today, employer-based group coverage provides the former but, crucially, not the latter. A “guaranteed renewable” individual insurance contract is the simplest way to deliver both. Once you sign up, you can keep insurance for life, and your premiums do not rise if you get sicker. Term life insurance, for example, is fully guaranteed renewable. Individual health insurance is mostly so. And insurers are getting more creative. UnitedHealth now lets you buy the right to future insurance—insurance against developing a pre-existing condition.
These market solutions can be refined. Insurance policies could separate current insurance and the right to buy future insurance. Then, if you are temporarily covered by an employer, you could keep the pre-existing-condition protection…
A competitive market is the best consumer protection. A car insurer that doesn’t pay claims quickly loses customers and goes out of business…
How do we get to a competitive market? The tax deduction for employer-provided group insurance, which has nearly destroyed the individual insurance market, is a central culprit. If we don’t have the will to remove it, the deduction could be structured to enhance competition and the right to future insurance. We could restrict the tax deduction to individual, portable, long-term insurance and to the high-deductible plans that people choose with their own money.
More importantly, health care and insurance are overly protected and regulated businesses. We need to allow the same innovation, entry, and competition that has slashed costs elsewhere in our economy. For example, we need to remove regulations such as the ban on cross-state insurance. Think about it. What else aren’t we allowed to purchase in another state?”
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
11:21 pm
DUSTY
I’ve got a few for him, too, but they’re on hold…he’s been costing me money…
Bruno–
I agree very much with what you say…as AmVet put it one night…just looking up at the stars and contemplating the immensity of it all…awesome in the truest meaning of the word. As for what I say when asked if I believe in G-d, I answer as Granddaddy taught me. “I’m far more concerned about whether or not G-d believes in me.”
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
11:25 pm
Well, now, ain’t just another one for the top of the page…maybe I’d better call it a night myself…
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
11:26 pm
AmVet–I’m not sure how familiar you are with Winwood’s first solo effort, but here’s a smooth track from it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1osn_COoC4
“I’m far more concerned about whether or not G-d believes in me.”
Good point, josef. Every gambler I know has a close, personal relationship with the Lord (and Satan, as well).
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
11:30 pm
Bruno—
With that in mind, g’night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNnrTNFWcsg
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
11:42 pm
I guess this will be my swan song tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXf2PbEPQ-Y
Every night I say a prayer
In the hopes that there’s a Heaven
And everyday I’m more confused
As the saints turn into sinners
All the heroes and legends
I knew as a child have fallen to idols of clay
And I feel this empty place inside
So afraid that I’ve lost my faith
Show me the way, show me the way
Take me tonight to the river
And wash my illusions away
Please show me the way
Thogwummpy
April 7th, 2010
12:07 am
Gee, Jay…now try something new and level a critical question towards a Democrat! OOOPS, that would be heresy in your pea headed mind, wouldn’t it?
FinnMcCool
April 7th, 2010
12:08 am
Putting the wingnuts away, one nutjob at a time:
Charles Alan Wilson Charged With Threatening Sen. Patty Murray’s Life
SEATTLE — A Washington state man has been charged with threatening to kill Democratic Sen. Patty Murray over her support for health care reform, leaving voicemail messages at her office saying she had a target on her back and “it only takes one piece of lead.”
TnGelding
April 7th, 2010
4:27 am
Taxing problem:
http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes.html
USinUK
April 7th, 2010
5:34 am
good morning 24-hour party people! TnG – you’re bright-eyed and bushy-tailed this morning!
happy belated Easter – I hope everyone is coming down from their chocolate and Peep highs without crashing too hard!!
Joel Edge
April 7th, 2010
5:40 am
We’ll see next year won’t we?
Normal
April 7th, 2010
6:07 am
Here’s a morning thought for y’all…
Courage.
You’re a 19 year old kid.
You’re critically wounded and dying in the jungle somewhere in the Central Highlands of Viet Nam.
It’s November 11, 1967.
LZ (landing zone) X-ray.
Your unit is outnumbered 8-1 and the enemy fire is so intense, from 100 yards
away, that your CO (commanding officer) has ordered the MedEvac helicopters to stop coming in.
You’re lying there, listening to the enemy machine guns and you know you’re not getting out..
Your family is half way around the world, 12,000 miles away, and you’ll never see them again.
As the world starts to fade in and out, you know this is the day.
Then – over the machine gun noise – you faintly hear that sound of a helicopter.
You look up to see a Huey coming in. But … It doesn’t seem real because no MedEvac markings are on it.
Captain Ed Freeman is coming in for you.
He’s not MedEvac so it’s not his job, but he heard the radio call and decided he’s flying his Huey down into the machine gun fire anyway.
Even after the MedEvacs were ordered
not to come. He’s coming anyway.
And he drops it in and sits there in the machine gun fire, as they load 3 of you
at a time on board.
Then he flies you up and out through the gunfire to the doctors and nurses
and safety.
And, he kept coming back!! 13 more times!!
Until all the wounded were out. No one knew until the mission was over that the Captain had been hit 4 times in the legs
and left arm.
He took 29 of you and your buddies out that day. Some would not have made it without the Captain and his Huey.
Medal of Honor Recipient, Captain Ed Freeman, United States Air Force, died last Wednesday at the age of 70, in Boise, Idaho .
May God Bless and Rest His Soul.
I bet you didn’t hear about this hero’s passing, but we’ve sure seen a whole bunch about Michael Jackson, Jesse James and Tiger Woods.
Medal of Honor
Winner Captain Ed Freeman
Shame on the American media !!!
Normal
April 7th, 2010
6:12 am
These men and their deeds have been reduced to one paragraph in Middle School history books. How do kids learn about this kind of man with only a single paragraph?
I Report :-) You Whine :-( Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 7th, 2010
6:15 am
A recent study from the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania estimated that over-$250,000 households earn 24.1 percent of all U.S. income and pay 43.6 percent of all personal federal income taxes.-AmSpec
And the libs want to suck on them some more, eewwwwww, just sayin….
bobfromacworth
April 7th, 2010
6:18 am
Jay, I would think you were a real journalist if you were asking these pointed questions of both parties politicians. But since you can’t nail down anything Obama, Pelosi, or Reid say either, then I would say you are just biased.
Tee
April 7th, 2010
6:25 am
Jay, great article. The Republicans have been masterful at distorting the facts about health care and scaring the guts out of people. Now some, such as John Kyl, are asking people to tone down. Well, that’s like un-ringing the bell. The genie is out of the bottle, and as evident by some of the comments on this page, no matter what they say now, many of the gullible will continue to believe that the President is not American and is a socialist!
Furthermore, the Republicans are good at neutralizing the media by labeling them as Obama sympathizers. As a result, we all suffer through interviews from ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN where reporters seldom challenge the lies being spewed by their Republican guests. Since when did being objective mean that you can’t follow-up a question when you know the answer contradicts a position held earlier by the individual being questioned?
When Michael Steele was elected to head the RNC, I decided that as an African American I would be open-minded, discard my previous doubts about this RN party, and wanted him to convince me that the Republican Party deserved and wanted the support of this minority. I am still waiting, but not so much.
USinUK
April 7th, 2010
6:30 am
g’morning, Normal –
thanks for the fantastic obit – talk about a hero!
as for your question: “How do kids learn about this kind of man with only a single paragraph?” not just VN, but all the wars are boiled down to names of treaties and dates – that’s always been the way. That’s what happens when you have to cover a couple of hundred years of history in 30 weeks – you lose the detail, you lose the humanity, you lose the scope.
jt
April 7th, 2010
6:42 am
Also about Ed “Too Tall” Freeman-
“He served in World War II[2] and reached the rank of first sergeant by the time of the Korean War. Although he was in the Corps of Engineers, he fought as an infantry soldier in Korea. He participated in the Battle of Pork Chop Hill and won a battlefield commission as one of only 14 survivors out of 257 men who made it through the opening stages of the battle.”
What a life. And a great American.
RIP. You deserve it.
How do kids learn about this kind of man with only a single paragraph?
Don’t rely on the state to do it. YOU teach your kids.
USinUK
April 7th, 2010
6:48 am
jt and Normal – the History Channel … the Military Channel … books … museums … your own family history – they’re all good places to start.
Normal
April 7th, 2010
7:04 am
USinUK and jt,
Y’all are hight, of course. While I find it hard to talk to my Grand Kids about my personal experiences, we do talk about these things in general, but with enough emphasis on the times, political atmosphere, etc.
I have been talking with a friend about revisionist history and its impact on future generations who may never find out the truth.
But as long as we have “Harolds” to share the truth, there is still hope.
But still, Michael Jackson? Get real…
Normal
April 7th, 2010
7:11 am
I wonder if Jesus Christ and Michael Jackson had died on the same day, who would have received the most press?
USinUK
April 7th, 2010
7:16 am
Normal –
“I have been talking with a friend about revisionist history and its impact on future generations who may never find out the truth”
that’s why things like the Shoah project are so important – first-hand reports about what really happened, what things were really like help the truth from being buried.
as for history and how it’s taught, I feel sorry for teachers – they have to cover so much in so little time … they have to make sure their kids are ready for too danged many standardized tests (that really don’t measure knowledge, they only measure retention of factoids) … they are basically put in a position to force-feed snippets of history and literature without teaching them context. They teach that the Brits raised taxes on America without teaching WHY … they teach about Hitler and WWII, but skip over WWI … they barely even talk about Korea and Viet Nam … they don’t explain the middle east at all despite the fact that it’s one of the key drivers in the US’s current situation …
DITTOHEAD:AJC Truth Detector
April 7th, 2010
7:33 am
YOU LIBERALs R so…so BIG on “Freedom to Choose” where abortions are concerned……..now you are for taking away that freedom in this HEALTH CARE MANDATE…….JAY….YOU ARE SUCH A HYPOCRIT….A HYPOCRIT……
DITTOHEAD:AJC Truth Detector
April 7th, 2010
7:36 am
AMAZING,,,,,,,Obama’s Atlanta-Journal don’t care what the people want……YOU know better what the people want………you tell the people what to think..
Tammi
April 7th, 2010
7:37 am
Why not repeal and replace. The majority of the voters opposed Obamacare. It was jammed down our throat by arrogant condecending democrats who think they know what is best for the rest of us who by thier lights are just too stupid to know better. Why not repeal and replace? This is the only piece of major social legislation passed on a strictly party line vote. Why not repeal and replace? Massive bribes and parlmentary tricks were required to round up the necessary votes even among the democrats.
Northern Songs, LTD
April 7th, 2010
7:42 am
repeal and replace will happen when there are 218 votes in the House, 60 in the Senate, and a republican president. so it will be 2013 at the earliest. and with the attention span of most amuricans, by 2013 the health care imbroglio will be long forgotten.
Doggone/GA
April 7th, 2010
7:43 am
“This is the only piece of major social legislation passed on a strictly party line vote”
And your point is? According to reports there were “hundreds” of GOP initiated amendements…so why did they then vote against it? If they weren’t going to bother to vote FOR it – which they didn’t – they why bother to propose amendments?
stands for decibels
April 7th, 2010
7:46 am
thanks for the fantastic obit – talk about a hero!
um, UnU, did you see the last line?
Shame on the American media !!!
Didn’t that maybe make your BS detector go off?
more here:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/freeman.asp
Yes, he was a hero. Yes, he deserved more attention than [fill-in-the-blank/missing-white-woman/celeb-scandal-you-hated-at-the-time].
But please, do not encourage the copy/pasters, the guys who get an email forward from their “buddy” that they just had to pass along, that they were too damn lazy to check out to see if it was even remotely current.
Which it wasn’t.
BMan35
April 7th, 2010
7:50 am
You expected to get a straight answer out of a politician? Call me, I have some swamp land you may be interested in…
jt
April 7th, 2010
7:55 am
Good bust dB.
Drudge would be proud.
USinUK
April 7th, 2010
7:55 am
dB – meh – I don’t care about the relative column inches battle – there are plenty of worthwhile things that don’t make the news everyday, trumped by things that are more timely or controversial – that’s just the nature of the beast.
the guy was a real guy – that’s all that matters.
USinUK
April 7th, 2010
7:58 am
Bman – “You expected to get a straight answer out of a politician?”
I think he expected AN answer out of a politician – these guys had nuttin’
stands for decibels
April 7th, 2010
7:59 am
the guy was a real guy – that’s all that matters.
Well no. That’s not all that matters. It doesn’t honor his service to couch it in a generic wingnut-based attack on people who do not deserve it.
These blanket condemnations of the “media” serve to denigrate people who are doing legitimate work, some of them risking their damn lives to do so. One can lob legitimate shots at sloppy corporate media priorities — I do it all the time, myself — without going full wingnut and using this to set up your latest missive about why Katie Couric is a commie.
USinUK
April 7th, 2010
8:02 am
dB – “These blanket condemnations of the “media” serve to denigrate people who are doing legitimate work, some of them risking their damn lives to do so.”
I understand and agree with you – however, we really weren’t engaged in that discussion – it was more about education and how to make sure guys like these don’t get lost in the mist of history
Normal
April 7th, 2010
8:02 am
stands for decibels
April 7th, 2010
7:46 am
Did YOU read what you posted? Ed Snopes story is even more fantastic than I thought.
Belittle me all you want for “Copy and Pasting” something I thought worth sharing, don’t belittle a true American Hero in your efforts to
belittle me. Start drinking decaf, dude.
Tommy
April 7th, 2010
8:03 am
For the gullible liberal fool who did not believe that the IRS woudl be hiring people to enforce Obmamacare’s mandates on us as individuals:
The IRS yesterday announced its plans to enforce fines against individuals who don’t buy health insurance up to 2% of their income.
Bet our medical records will never leak too.
USinUK
April 7th, 2010
8:09 am
ooooo … you mean they’re actually going to ENFORCE a law that they PASSED … wow … whatta concept
as far as medica records – you do realize that records already ARE being leaked on an all-too-frequent basis, don’t you???
stands for decibels
April 7th, 2010
8:10 am
UnU, I get it. And I like “Normal,” generally.
But sometimes you gotta point out that someone peed in the punchbowl.
This man was feted at the White House with the Medal of Honor. He has a post office named after him. That is honoring the man’s service.
Screaming about the media attention given to “some Hip-Hop coward beating the crap out of his girlfriend” SIX MONTHS AFTER the man’s passing, and using it to stir crap up in Feb. 2009–gosh, what had just happened, then? Whatever could a guy screaming about a “Hip-Hop coward” be upset about, right about then? think think think…
–well, that’s something else. Certainly not honoring his service. And when an otherwise decent guy like Normal gets sucked into it, and you enable that behavior, frankly, it pisses me off.
Sorry to be such a douchebag about it, it’s what I am sometimes.
jt
April 7th, 2010
8:11 am
Tommy -
Actually, the 16,000 more IRS agents COULD be a myth. The health-care scam/law just increased the IRS budget by 10 Billion dollars. No where did it say 16,000 more agents. The media just averaged out how many agents 10 billion would buy.
Regardless, it is sickening. 10 Billion could have payed for alot of insurance or medical help.
Mick
April 7th, 2010
8:11 am
Normal
Thanks for the story about Captain Ed Freeman, something positive and reinforcing to start another day in paradise..
stands for decibels
April 7th, 2010
8:11 am
Ed Snopes story is even more fantastic than I thought.
Normal, that’s great, that you have taken it upon yourself to learn about this man’s contribution. I just wish you’d done that before you had blindly copy/pasted propaganda. That’s all.
Morrus
April 7th, 2010
8:12 am
Vote out the incumbents and start over
jt
April 7th, 2010
8:12 am
I thought the db stood for decibels.
My bad.
stands for decibels
April 7th, 2010
8:16 am
I thought the db stood for decibels.
har.
Normal
April 7th, 2010
8:18 am
You know Stands, I nearly took that media line out but I didn’t, and now I’m sorry for that. I remember the story personally because I was in ‘Nam on my first tour at the time learning the trade of a river rat.
He was talked about all through ‘Nam, and became a superhero, and a live one at that. A friend did send the post to me and I didn’t check it out because I remembered my little piece of him.
I’m sorry I upset you, fair enough?
stands for decibels
April 7th, 2010
8:24 am
I’m sorry I upset you, fair enough?
more than fair. (Hey, I’m the douchebag, here, remember?)
jt
April 7th, 2010
8:26 am
Who is John Galt?
Unfortunantly, the federalies will probably get cracking on that border fence now, if this trend continues. From the WSJ————————
The number of American citizens and green-card holders severing their ties with the U.S. soared in the latter part of 2009, amid looming U.S. tax increases and a more aggressive posture by the Internal Revenue Service toward Americans living overseas.
According to public records, just over 500 people world-wide renounced U.S. citizenship or permanent residency in the fourth quarter of 2009, the most recent period for which data are available. That is more people than have cut ties with the U.S. during all of 2007, and more than double the total expatriations in 2008.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304017404575166211517964090.html?mod=rss_Politics_And_Policy
We all lose
April 7th, 2010
8:27 am
How about “repeal and reform,” but after we address the issues that are really affecting the majority of Americans right now. And no serious health-care discussion can begin without tort reform at the top of the agenda.
USinUK
April 7th, 2010
8:30 am
“just over 500 people world-wide renounced U.S. citizenship or permanent residency in the fourth quarter of 2009″
500 people??? seriously???
there were more people than that at my high school
Audrey in Georgia
April 7th, 2010
8:31 am
Replace republicans.
Doggone/GA
April 7th, 2010
8:32 am
“just over 500 people world-wide renounced U.S. citizenship or permanent residency in the fourth quarter of 2009″
Now give us the number of immigrants who took their oath of citizenship in the same year.
Very Afraid
April 7th, 2010
8:34 am
So the “Birthers” argument is that Obama isn’t really the President because he hasn’t shown sufficient evidence that he is a U.S. citizen. So answer me this question – How is it Obama, running for office against a Republican candidate, under a Republican administration headed by Dick Cheney and George W. Bush, (who’s father H.W. was the former head of the CIA), was so skillfully able to hide his “true” origins from the CIA, FBI, INS, ICE, Department of Homeland Security, Secret Service,Interpol and pretty much every law enforcement agency in the free world? Either Obama actually IS a U.S. Citizen, or, the agencies that we entrust the security of the nation to are so inept that we should all be VERY AFRAID!
BugintheirEar
April 7th, 2010
8:34 am
Obozo is just one lying sock of $hit, “I will not raise taxes on anybody making under $250, 000 a year, what a lie. By not letting companies right off the benefits that they give me, and adding that on to my pay IS RAISING MY TAXES. Better yet here is what Obozo advisers have to say;+
Volcker: Taxes likely to rise eventually to tame deficit
NEW YORK (Reuters) – The United States should consider raising taxes to help bring deficits under control and may need to consider a European-style value-added tax, White House adviser Paul Volcker said on Tuesday.
Volcker, answering a question from the audience at a New York Historical Society event, said the value-added tax “was not as toxic an idea” as it has been in the past and also said a carbon or other energy-related tax may become necessary.
Though he acknowledged that both were still unpopular ideas, he said getting entitlement costs and the U.S. budget deficit under control may require such moves. “If at the end of the day we need to raise taxes, we should raise taxes,” he said.
We need to repeal and replace….. By the way how come you liberals never mention HR3400 that has the GOP answer to reform, it has been in the hands of the dimacrats for over a year?
BugintheirEar
April 7th, 2010
8:35 am
sack
jt
April 7th, 2010
8:37 am
“Now give us the number of immigrants who took their oath of citizenship in the same year.”
As per the progressives, this is no longer necessary.
UK-
500 is lower than I would expect, but it could be the start of a trend.
A trickle in a dike if you would.
Dr Strangelove
April 7th, 2010
8:38 am
You have to understand politics. If you are a Repudlickan, then you must necessarily disagree with a Democratic president. Period. You must call him a moron, and draw caricatures of his likeness to der Heetler. You must show how he’s really just a voodoo witch doctor. It’s the law. It’s a rule, like stepping on cracks makes your father brokeback (the gay rat).
In world war two, when the Marines engaged the japanese on all those islands, the japs would yell, “Fook Babe Ruth”, at night. They had to yell that, even if they liked Babe Ruth. It was rule of war, and that law is unbreakable. I wonder how many Marines cared. That’s how many democrats care that the pea-tards in the tea party are rascist secessionists. That’s how many peetards know what they’re saying. It doesn’t matter. They’ll parrot any slogan. it’s the law. it’s a rule. We’ve known that ignorance forms a new face every generation. . There is no question that the Tea Party is the new KKK. It just is. It’s part of the metamorphosis of hate.
It’s the law. Haters will persist in blaming those they hate no matter what the cost, because it’s all they know. Bookman asked the question, and these sophisticated politicians, the best and the brightest of the hillbilly right, had nothing to offer, and yet they still have careers? Yes! Because a nod is as good as a wink in a party of blind horse’s rear ends.
Born-again, flat-earther birther racist-secessionists are here to smear. (how queer).
jt
April 7th, 2010
8:39 am
The “sock” is better. And apt.
you betcha
April 7th, 2010
8:41 am
Tax problems:
Would no more tax holiday for GE really end up helping Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer? Doubtful. “The average Joe should be in favor of lower corporate taxes,” says Hodge, “because ultimately they are paying the corporate income tax. Either as workers, getting lower wages and fewer jobs, or as consumers, paying higher prices, or as retirees, getting lower dividends and earnings on their investments.”
In the same vein, JPMorgan Chase ( JPM – news – people ) Chief Executive Jamie Dimon has spoken out against an Obama proposal to levy a special tax on banks to recoup bailout costs. “Using tax policy to punish people is a bad idea,” said Dimon. “All businesses tend to pass costs on to customers.”
how will the prez solve the dilemma? why does the prez hate americans?
middler and so tired of all the rhetoric :
April 7th, 2010
9:05 am
From the beginning when it was “Just Say No” the GOP has consistently touted their plan as better, less governmental, and financially superior. However, in over a year there has not been a single plan offered and no details. We get plenty of sound bites and superficial critiques. As the old saying goes “where’s the beef?” This legislation is not perfect. It needs to be tweaked. As with anything it will never be perfect and will never be at an end as change in everything never stops. But the fighting and meanness and threats have to stop. The Dems finally got together enough on something to pass it. Now all our legislators, federal and state, need to find ways to implement it and improve it and make it work for us. This silly and expensive states suit, when so much is wrong, is another smokescreen to make people look they are doing something when they aren’t and that they are helping “the people” which they aren’t. Many of us are sick, sick, sick, of the disconnect with reality and the real world in which the legislators exist and want them to remember they are not a select exalted class but “servants of the people.”
josef nix
April 7th, 2010
9:15 am
Since I’m off today on the taxpayers’ dime (thank you, taxpayers!) I’ll take a minute here and address the question of teaching history. It’s not as hard as you might think, all you have to do is remember the biblical (in public schools? Ssh DADT) “and a child shall lead them,” Forget the textbook beyond it’s menu of terms/dates/key figures they’ll be tested on. Tell the students to memorize those, pop test ‘em on them daily and their scores on the standardized test of standardized humanity will keep the overseers at bay and you can get on with the task at hand. Then spend your time letting them run free in research, reading and written commentary. “What do you think and can you back that up.” You’d be surprized at just how many of the little b*ggers watch the learning channels, what they’ll find on internet, in the library, talking to granma and how excited they are to share that with others. “I was watching so and so and granma told me that and I found this on internet…” Then, the most important question you ask them, “why wasn’t that in the textbook?” Get ready…you’ll get an earful…
Those of us who have a love of history all remember that teacher who stepped outside the box and told us to look beyond the textbook and to look at our own stories from our own families, our own traditions and compare and contrast those with others and, when we said, “I’m confused…” told us, “good, Your’re supposed to be. History is confusing.”
Exchequer
April 7th, 2010
9:17 am
Entitlement programs are not financially sustainable. The refusal to admit this nationally makes it no less true. The attempt to force the country into a quasi-entitlement social benefits model relying upon heavily accelerated taxes years before benefit expenses begin is financial foolery.
Neither party is truly willing to come clean with the American people because they realize that the resulting “truth serum” will make the “Intolerable Acts” look like childs play. Government’s only interest is the perpetuation and expansion of its own power – nothing more. We the People have bought into the idea of “letting somebody else handle the problem”. This has spawned a governance model that feeds on the premise of Security rather than liberty and accountability. Polls drive professional political opinion; the fear of offending someone is so severe that it has become impossible to get any politician from either party to give a straight answer on any issue of relevance to the nation.
Chew on these tidbits:
Medicare and Medicaid should be repealed because the nation can’t afford the programs. This statement is offensive to anyone receiving this entitlement but doesn’t change the truth of the statement.
Elimination of all existing entitlement forced wealth redistribution programs, while wildly unpopular, and considered to be political suicide by both parties, is fiscally responsible.
Any legislation that creates a private army for the President should be repealed because it violates the intent of the Seperation of Powers clause which defines the accountability of the Executive branch and the President’s use of force internationally or domestically only with congressional review and consent. Not to mention the defacto violation of The Posse Comitatus Act, a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement.
Members of the federal uniformed services (today the Army, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain “law and order” on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.
The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress.
Creation of a “non-uniformed” 6,000 member private army that will be trained by the US Military for use at the President’s discretion on domestic issues neither enhances our collective freedom or improves our collective healthcare.
Land of the Free?
wyldbyllhyltnyr
April 7th, 2010
9:20 am
Jay, read Paul Ryan’s roadmap – GOP leadership will have to adopt that eventually.
budman
April 7th, 2010
11:43 am
NORMAL…thanks a ton for sharing that part of American history. I have quest lectured and power pointed presented at Southern Tech. for the past 5 years for a history professor. The youth of America are so serious about the truth about Vietnam, they are teaching the subject in school at undergraduate level. It has been taught in college at a graduate level subject in more places and it has been going on longer. There are only 11 colleges in the US that bother with the controversial subject. War is very debatable..I am from Charleston, SC and we will tell you that some colonist didn’t want to break away from mother England. Most people don’t know about that..its not popular.
My point is that most people invent history. They think that watching the History channel is deep research. Real research is difficult at best, no matter how trite the subject appears. It is only preserved when people like your self preserve it and use written history too enrich our lives.
theyeshaveit
April 7th, 2010
12:13 pm
Doggone/GA said, ” ‘This is the only piece of major social legislation passed on a strictly party line vote’
And your point is? According to reports there were “hundreds” of GOP initiated amendements…so why did they then vote against it? If they weren’t going to bother to vote FOR it – which they didn’t – they why bother to propose amendments?”
Doggone, Republican ideas were included in the form of about 200 amendments. Wonder why the Republicans voted against it? The answer goes back to what Boehner said long before the vote. Republicans wanted to kill the bill (at the expense of the American people) because they wanted to make HCR Obama’s “Waterloo”. Politics anyone?
Brett
April 7th, 2010
12:49 pm
They are the very scum of the Earth.
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