GOP’s ‘Repeal and replace’ slogan has no grounding in reality
AJC editors and columnists just finished a pretty wide-ranging 80-minute interview with Sen. Saxby Chambliss and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and I took the opportunity to ask a question that had been nagging at me for a while.
Both men stressed that on health care, “repeal and replace” would remain the GOP message into the fall elections. However, both also acknowledged that they would like to retain some aspects of the Democrats’ plan, such as coverage of pre-existing conditions.
I’ve seen that goal expressed repeatedly by Republicans, but I’ve never seen an explanation of how they would accomplish it. Hated as it is, the “pre-existing condition” exclusion often serves a legitimate purpose. Insurance companies use it to discourage “free riders” who would otherwise choose to go without coverage for years, buying a policy only when they come down with a serious illness or injury.
If you somehow tell companies they can no longer deny coverage of pre-existing conditions, you need to provide them another way to eliminate free riders. Under the new law, individual mandates are that tool. As long as everyone is required to have coverage, nobody can game the system and there’s no longer any justification to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions.
So if the GOP plan is going to ensure that pre-existing conditions are covered, as Chambliss and McConnell suggested, how would they do it without individual mandates? What mechanism would they use?
Chambliss and McConnell had no answer. Literally.
After Chambliss fumbled an initial response, McConnell broke in with a long and familiar condemnation of the Democratic plan, including its failure to include tort reform. After a few minutes, I interrupted and brought him back to the question: OK, but how are the Republicans going to cover pre-existing conditions?
“The premiums are going up either way,” he said.
OK, I responded, a little stunned. That doesn’t explain how the Republicans intend to cover pre-existing conditions.
“The premiums are going up either way,” he repeated.
That was that. We moved on, and I still don’t have my answer.
Actually, I guess I do. Republicans clearly understand that the American people want the problem of pre-existing conditions to be solved; it’s also pretty clear that they have no idea how to achieve that goal. In fact, while they campaign on “repeal and replace,” they intend to keep that whole “replace” thing as vague and ill-defined as possible. In response to another question, McConnell said explicitly that the Republicans would not be drafting a specific plan on how they intend to replace ObamaCare. Instead, he said, individual GOP candidates would each be offering their own ideas of what a good replacement might look like.
Those ideas will no doubt include pledges to address pre-existing conditions, even if they don’t have the vaguest idea how.
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Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:23 pm
“What more could one need to know about that one. Yawn.”
LOL!!!!! Sure thing there TaxPayer.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:25 pm
“Can’t even name one freaking player from his “favorite” baseball team, what a stooge.”
Yeah, and then he praised Cubs fans. What’s up with that?????? Cubs and Sox fans HATE each other. He also said he was an A’s fan when he lived in Hawaii.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:25 pm
“To be perfectly honest, when I first came here, I held some of my own liberal tendencies. jay’s leftists have shown me that there is no value in holding onto them. If they ARE what I WAS then I have lost nothing.”
Interesting.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
8:27 pm
Just a thought. When talking about health care in t his country, there are some among us who will point out the flaws of the “public option” in Europe or Canada. Yes, I am aware of the people who cross the border from Canada seeking more immediate medical care here. And last night, I became aware that until recently British physicians were not allow to practice surgical skills on cadavers (which is, of course part of any medical curriculum here in the US). So, there are some drawbacks to “social” medicine. But is anyone aware that a number of Americans get out of town to have surgeries performed in Thailand? And the skills, cost and patient care are extraordinarily good. I mean I saw hospitals that look like luxury hotels. Then in Japan, people pay into a system (not mandated mind you) and receive very good medical care through government plans. But governments plans in Japan are supplemented by special, private plans. So you can have general care on a government plan and get cancer insurance via the private plan.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
8:27 pm
AmV
I didn’t know that was the meaning of the name until after I tried it. I didn’t even associate the name with DT’s.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:27 pm
SoCo
Thanks for the clarification…like I said, not a beer aficionado and, evidently, it shows!
@@
Now don’t go jumping on ALL us liberals… ISH
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:28 pm
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) – They’ve been called Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are used to having to defend their values. Now black conservatives are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white tea party movement—and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation’s first black president.
Just sayin….
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:29 pm
AmVet
And I thought the Heebie Jeebies were a gay dance group from Ramat Gan…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:30 pm
IR/YW
Like I said earlier, keep your eye on McGlowan and Mississippi’s First…
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
8:31 pm
JOSEF!!!! Don’t make me spit up my beer. That 8:29 was funny as hell!!!!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:32 pm
I’ll keep an eye on McGlowan, no problem wit dat, but Mississippi?
Not gonna happen…
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
8:32 pm
Who dat?
I’m a huge Greg Maddux fan but he often got a generous call on the outside corner.
joan
April 6th, 2010
8:33 pm
maybe it is possible to give healthcare insurance for pre-existing conditions, on condition, that the pre-existing conditions were from birth, and not the result of trauma. As example, if somebody sits on their hands until they have an accident, then the heck with them. If someone is born with a pre-disposition to cancer, or some other devastating disease, then they get help. I don’t see why pre-existing conditions exclusions can’t apply to those who willfully delay getting coverage. They do have some responsibility for themselves—or maybe I am old school in thinking that.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
8:37 pm
“I’m a huge Greg Maddux fan but he often got a generous call on the outside corner.”
HD, think Eric Gregg. The man who never saw a pitch within 12 inches of the outside edge that he wouldn’t call a strike…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:40 pm
IR/YW
Mississippi’s First District is a world unto itself…throw out everything you ever thought the state was, and start over…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:43 pm
I’m watching Hawaii myself, one of the most stupidly democrat districts on Earth and they have a spec elec comin up real soon like. We’ll see.
@@
April 6th, 2010
8:44 pm
Who dat?:
Interesting.
Not really. Give ‘em an inch and they want you to walk the mile-long plank. Nothing short of that will suffice.
Be on your guard with their attempts at being nice. Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
—————————————————-
jay:
This in closing for the night–a comment from Cynthia’s:
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
3:46 pm
You’ll be kicked off here and next door again long before then.
Do you really want a blogger being able to predict what you will do? What Cynthia will do? Making threats on behalf of the AJC’s liberal columnists?
I sure as hell wouldn’t.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:45 pm
You can tell the dummycrat party bigshots in Hawaii apart from the tourists, they are the ones with their eyes all bugged out. Duh heat is on.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:47 pm
By the way, Bookman wasn’t lying when he said Sox 1 Yanks 1, it kinda surprised me.
That he didn’t lie.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:48 pm
Oh look, all the little wormy democrats run off to go google “Hawaii spec elec,” hahahaha.
Tea party time!
Fred
April 6th, 2010
8:52 pm
No plan at all is better than what just passed. For the first time, the federal government claims control of the people for FAILING to engage in interstate commerce. We are all becoming slaves to a master that we’re creating.
Here’s a few old but great quotes from Frederic Bastiat. Never heard of him? Why am I not surprised…….
“But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.”
“The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else.”
“Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole—with their common aim of legal plunder—constitute socialism.”
Midori
April 6th, 2010
8:52 pm
Hi Stands
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:55 pm
The kindest word for all of this is fiasco. American troops are risking their lives to implement a counterinsurgency strategy that requires winning popular support in Afghanistan, and the main message from America’s Commander in Chief to the Afghan people is that their government can’t be trusted. That ought to make it easier to win hearts and minds.
Who will be the last soldier to die for obozo’s hissy fit?
Dr. Siggie F
April 6th, 2010
8:56 pm
There is a chance that electroshock therapy might deliver a slight improvement to the mental condition of some of these compulsive blog gnats, but don’t get too hopeful.
Fred
April 6th, 2010
8:56 pm
Another great one:
“Here I encounter the most popular fallacy of our times.
It is not considered sufficient that the law should be just; it must be philanthropic. Nor is it sufficient that the law should guarantee to every citizen the free and inoffensive use of his faculties for physical, intellectual, and moral self-improvement. Instead, it is demanded that the law should directly extend welfare, education, and morality throughout the nation. “
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
9:06 pm
AmVet
Yeah, Eric wasn’t too good on balls and strikes. He was fair though, he missed ‘em for both teams.
Rightwing Troll
April 6th, 2010
9:07 pm
How’s that repealy replacey thingy working out for you sacks???
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
9:10 pm
Check back in November, nut hugger!
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
9:10 pm
There is a chance that electroshock therapy might deliver a slight improvement to the mental condition of some of these compulsive blog gnats, but don’t get too hopeful.
I actually knew someone who had shock treatments. He said, “They’re rough when you’re getting them but they’re actually good for you”. For whatever that’s worth.
moonbat betty
April 6th, 2010
9:11 pm
Funny of the day:
Women march topless in Portland without incident
The marchers want to call attention to the double standard in society’s attitudes toward male and female nudity.
Ty McDowell, who organized the march, said she was “enraged” by the turnout of men attracted to the demonstration. The purpose, she said, was for society to have the same reaction to a woman walking around topless as it does to men without shirts on.
However, McDowell said she plans to organize similar demonstrations in the future and said she would be more “aggressive” in discouraging oglers.
at least the teabaqquers keep their shirts on…
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
9:12 pm
“How’s that repealy replacey thingy working out for you sacks???”
And here I thought Jay banned that word from being used.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:12 pm
compulsive blog gnats.
Gotta write that one down.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
9:16 pm
SoCo
But don’t go huntin’ gnats with elephant guns…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
9:18 pm
moonbat
teabaqquer..ain’t dat wha-jee put in cee-gar?
soma
April 6th, 2010
9:19 pm
The problem with Liberals is that their core, the very center of their ideology, hinges on violation of the most basic of human rights, as grounded in natural law: the right to property, or as worded by the founders, “the pursuit of happiness” (meaning labor, and the fruits of that labor).
It is wasted effort arguing with someone who disregards the basic rights to life, liberty, and property. Progressives, fascists, liberals, communists….democrats. Call them whatever you like….they all represent something which flies in the face of natural law. In the end, they all advocate what amounts to servitude at the altar of their flawed belief system, which they rationalize through “laws”, which invariably are illegal in that they infringe on basic human rights.
Modern liberalism is the worst type of mental incapacity.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:20 pm
josef
How else can I prove that I can shoot the wings off of them at 100 yards?
moonbat betty
April 6th, 2010
9:20 pm
si, josef, what flavor you like?
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:21 pm
Modern liberalism is the worst type of mental incapacity.
I’m guessing that you’re in the mental health field and you have years of clinical trials and other forms of proof to back that up, right?
moonbat betty
April 6th, 2010
9:22 pm
hey SoCo, if you can’t git ‘em with chop sticks.
you can’t git ‘em.
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
9:23 pm
“How’s that repealy replacey thingy working out for you sacks???”
Why don’t you do the Lib two-step for me, Troll:
(1) Claim that insurance companies are evil incarnate.
(2) Praise Obama and the Dems for forcing every citizen to subsidize the same insurance companies you demonized in Step (1).
What a F-ing idiot.
JimJackJoe
April 6th, 2010
9:26 pm
I think soma means that liberals have the worst type of mental illness because its the type that harms other people, in mass.
Liberals are kind of like serial offenders.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:29 pm
betty
It’s more fun if you have a mouthful of golden grain and a match.
JimJackJoe
April 6th, 2010
9:31 pm
Liberals. Sucking the world dry, one “law” at a time.
Maybe we should change the name to something more descriptive… Moocher? Thief? Parasite? Yeah, thats it. Parasite.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
9:38 pm
SoCo
You and my Granny! Incidentally when Granddaddy accused her of hunting gnats with an elephant gun, she said, “well, if the gnats are bothering you and all you’ve got at you disposal is an elephant gun…” Sorta my philosophy…
moonbat…
Luzianne and Montecristo Tubo…
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
9:38 pm
Whiner said, “I’m watching Hawaii myself, one of the most stupidly democrat districts on Earth and they have a spec elec comin up real soon like. We’ll see.”
But Rush Limbaugh just loved health care in Hawaii. LOL.
http://rawstory.com/2010/03/limbaugh-unwittingly-praises-socialized-medicine/
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:39 pm
I guess these people are all Liberal moochers, thiefs, parasites, or whatever label you want to throw on them.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/01/AR2006070100962.html
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:41 pm
josef
When the statement was made about people “clinging to their Bibles and guns”, I took great pride in that. I tell people to be careful how they treat those who do that because they don’t know which one they’re clinging to at that time.
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
9:42 pm
SoCo–I got josef hopping to some Jay-Z the other night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAsqZTwp1lQ
I wanna be forever young……..
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:47 pm
Bruno
I’ve never been a big Jay-Z fan. I should be especially since he’s family now.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
9:47 pm
soma
At the risk of descending into the vulgar, you’re as full of sh*t as a Christmas turkey..the right to one’s property is at the very core of liberalism…secondly liberalism is foundationed on the bare minimum of law…I know you think you know what liberalism is, but I suggest very strongly that you look at its origins in the Latin “liber.”
I will grant you your issues with the political dichotomies of the day and your own dogmatism, but go back and review the philosophy of liberalism and see just how much you and I as Americans owe to its philosophers…we can argue all day long about its so-called adherents who have little better understanding of the -ism than you, but let’s at least speak the English language properly…
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
9:48 pm
soma said, “Modern liberalism is the worst type of mental incapacity.”
Excuse me? When one conjures up a list of the paragons of mental incapacity in the political arena, I would think names like Spiro Agnew, Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin would make it to the top.
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
9:48 pm
Alright, josef, try this one on for size:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jZxR70w3Vs
Maniac
April 6th, 2010
9:49 pm
HR3400, look it up people especially Southern Comfort. Obamacare is a joke and it gives the IRS power to take your tax return.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:50 pm
josef
If your Christmas turkey’s are full of sh*t, might I suggest trying a different brand this coming year?
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
9:55 pm
That’s why I eat dressing instead of stuffing. Ain’t nothin’ in my turkey but air.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
9:56 pm
Maniac
First, if it’s been signed into law, it is no longer HR3400. I’m guessing you didn’t remember that part from civics. However, if you’re referring specifically to the house bill, it is not law and doesn’t amount to a steaming pile of dogsh*t.
Second, I’m not worried as you are about the IRS. You wanna know why? Those black helicopters and suburbans that you fear, guess who’s usually driving the second suburban???
<<— Drives Blacked-out Suburbans wearing Black suits and shades for a living.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
9:57 pm
Maniac said, “HR3400, look it up people especially Southern Comfort. Obamacare is a joke and it gives the IRS power to take your tax return.”
What is missing here? I would hope that you already send your tax return to the IRS every year.
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
9:58 pm
“go back and review the philosophy of liberalism and see just how much you and I as Americans owe to its philosophers…”
josef–You are absolutely right:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
“Liberalism first became a powerful force in the Age of Enlightenment, rejecting several foundational assumptions that dominated most earlier theories of government, such as hereditary status, established religion, absolute monarchy, and the Divine Right of Kings. The early liberal thinker John Locke, who is often credited for the creation of liberalism as a distinct philosophical tradition, employed the concept of natural rights and the social contract to argue that the rule of law should replace absolutism in government, that rulers were subject to the consent of the governed, and that private individuals had a fundamental right to life, liberty, and property.”
However, just as AmVet likes to point how far the “neo-conservatives” have drifted from traditional conservative philosophy, I don’t see any resemblance between today’s “liberals” and John Locke.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
9:59 pm
For those who think I only listen to 20th century stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZxZ2n2zpw
Mick
April 6th, 2010
10:02 pm
So much fear on the right side of the aisle….yet we still move forward and try to make the best of what most will have….another day in paradise.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
10:03 pm
SoCo
That comment pretty much sealed his fate in my book…elitist to the very core in unguarded moments…I know a lot of my fellow liberals raise a c*ked eyebrow when I say this, but my liberalism is inspired by my study of the scriptures and I have no qualms about using a gun to defend it if called on to have to do so which, pray G-d, I never will.
Bruno–
As I said, that particular song is one of my “credos…”
” Let’s dance in style, lets dance for a while
Heaven can wait we’re only watching the skies
Hoping for the best but expecting the worst
Are you going to drop the bomb or not?
Let us die young or let us live forever
We don’t have the power but we never say never …
…Can you imagine when this race is won
Turn our golden faces into the sun
Praising our leaders we’re getting in tune
The music’s played by the madman …
…Sooner or later they all will be gone
Why don’t they stay young
It’s so hard to get old without a cause
I don’t want to perish like a fading horse
Youth is like diamonds in the sun
And diamonds are forever
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
10:07 pm
HD
Are you listening to the song or looking at the singer?
Bigboy
April 6th, 2010
10:07 pm
The Republican plan is still the same…let the free market dictate healthcare costs.What stuns me is the regular working folk who vote Republican.Let’s see…give huge tax breaks to corporations so they can turn around and lay you off ..so they can continue to shed costs which leads to better stock prices for them.Yeah Reagan pioneered the “trickle down theory of economics(Yeah Ronnie the guy who couldn’t even spell his name by the time he left office)I guess the trickle is slowing to a drip now.It should been a crime for a company to get millions in tax breaks after laying off thousands while posting billions in profit.Yet there are some who will still vote against their self interest by following these clowns…the richest 10 percent.. sure the Republican party is the ticket..but those who make 60 grand or less are delusional….I guess you wont get the message until all of you have seen YOUR job eliminated.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
10:08 pm
SoCo
Both
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
10:12 pm
HD
Amen!!!
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
10:13 pm
josef
I’ve already made peace with me having to use a gun. My only prayer is that I make it home to my family. Like you, if that’s how I have to defend myself, it must be done.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
10:15 pm
Thanks for the music…nice…turkey…? Boar’s Head breast cold cut…you can have the rest of the nasty bird, stuffing, dressing and all!
As for the terms and what they mean…I am a liberal fundametalist and I have little problem entering into a rewarding dialogue with a conservative fundamentalist, or a Christian fundamentalist, Marxist fundamentalist or what have you…we are discussing the fundamentals…so many who go wearing this, that or the other label haven’t the vaguest notion of the -isms fundamentals and thus no starting point. But, given the use of Engrish, call yourself a fundamentalist and see what happens…
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
10:15 pm
HD–A beautiful 20th century number:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIyX8jrd8jM
For everyone on board tonight^^^^^^^^
sssssssssssss
April 6th, 2010
10:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db1s-eV-Bd0&feature=related
yesssssssssss we can AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sssssssssssssssssssssssss
Mick
April 6th, 2010
10:24 pm
Anyone remember the “mod” era?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zeza1xeWKM
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
10:29 pm
Back at ya’ Bruno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZiPT1m-4c&feature=related
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
10:31 pm
“so many who go wearing this, that or the other label haven’t the vaguest notion of the -isms”
I haven’t found a convenient label to reflect my religious views. I don’t see GOD as a separate being who resides somewhere out in space. GOD is the totality.
soma
April 6th, 2010
10:31 pm
Ahhh josef nix, don’t be such a moron. As you seem to have some understanding, you should very well know that “Modern liberalism” (as I’ve referred to it) is essentially the opposite of classic liberalism (which I think you must know).
So, yes, let’s speak the english language properly. Let’s start be reading it properly. And again, to keep the terminology clear, the liberalism you speak of is as far as could be from what a Modern liberal believes.
To be vulgar….read what’s written before posting bulls*%t.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
10:31 pm
“However, just as AmVet likes to point how far the “neo-conservatives” have drifted from traditional conservative philosophy, I don’t see any resemblance between today’s “liberals” and John Locke.”
Damn straight Bro. B,
This lady may have stumbled, but she ain’t never fell…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYBSvn5juIk
Tank
April 6th, 2010
10:31 pm
From CNNMoney.com:
Fed: Recovery may lose steam
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Federal Reserve policymakers are worried that the economic recovery may lose steam going forward, despite recent moderate improvements, according to minutes from their recent policy meeting released Tuesday. … “While participants saw incoming information as broadly consistent with continued strengthening of economic activity, they also highlighted a variety of factors that would be likely to restrain the overall pace of recovery, especially in light of the waning effects of fiscal stimulus and inventory rebalancing over coming quarters,” the minutes said.
How’s that Hope and Change working for ya?
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
10:32 pm
Bruno
If you’re still here, I think you’d get a kick out of this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVrWDPi12zE
moonbat betty
April 6th, 2010
10:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHbVLTRuLkw
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
10:37 pm
“Back at ya’ Bruno”
Awesome, HD!
I’m sure you know the story behind the music, but it’s worth repeating. Around 1980, Steve Winwood found himself at somewhat of a crossroads, both personally and musically. In response, he built a studio in his home, and began recording an album, playing every instrument himself and doing all the technical work as well. “Arc of a Diver” was the result.
Hootenanny Yum Yum
April 6th, 2010
10:37 pm
Take…Stimulate
Take…Stimulate?
Take
Take?
Nothing to Take Anymore
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
10:42 pm
Back at ya, SC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv-zPa9xDEg&feature=related
Howdy, Am–Back in a few minutes…..
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
10:43 pm
“Arc of a Diver” was the result.
Yeah, he hit a home run with it.
On the -ism’s, I don’t think there’s one that really fits me. Maybe we could become “The Ismless”.
Hootenanny Yum Yum
April 6th, 2010
10:45 pm
How come the 2010 Census commercial saying “WE CAN’T MOVE FORWARD UNTIL YOU SEND IT IN” is populated primarily shows people of color?
Hootenanny Yum Yum
April 6th, 2010
10:47 pm
shows > be
????
April 6th, 2010
10:48 pm
I don’t think there’s one that really fits me.
PragmatISM.
(IW&SH)
Fred
April 6th, 2010
10:50 pm
Liberals.
No amount of education can overcome that much stupidity.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
10:53 pm
soma
Well, at least I’m a moron and not an idiot or imbecile…
I think if you read what I wrote, you will see that I adhere to the philosophy of Locke as the fundamental which you and others would call classical liberalism and which I would maintain is Modern liberalism. I go further back than that,though, and view Maimonides as the greatest proponent of the philosophical -ism in a modern sense…as did Spinoza.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
10:54 pm
“Yeah, he hit a home run with it.”
As was the case with “Back in the High Life”. An (under appreciated?) sonic masterpiece…
“The Ismless”
Love that! (Count me in!)
B, been reading some about John Locke. Absolutely fascinating…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt3HXMS0EtE
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
10:55 pm
soma said, “So, yes, let’s speak the english language properly. Let’s start be reading it properly. And again, to keep the terminology clear, the liberalism you speak of is as far as could be from what a Modern liberal believes.”
Hmmm. Hyperventilation does interfere with the quality of one’s English. I counted five errors in soma’s diatribe in which he admonishes Josef on the use of proper English.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
10:59 pm
Bruno
I find the term “believer” fits me…I don’t claim to know and don’t trust those who do…but I do believe and express those beliefs in the terms and structures of the tradition in which I was raised…sort of the “fundamentals” if you will…
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
11:00 pm
“This lady may have stumbled, but she ain’t never fell…”
Am–Last heard this one in a biker bar in North Myrtle Beach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs4y5si8DGs
Dusty
April 6th, 2010
11:00 pm
Well, as usual, my post has been moderated. So what’s new? Nothing. Goodnight.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
11:00 pm
Bruno
I’ve heard that MJ learned the moonwalk from Michael Chambers. Don’t know if it’s true or not. Either way, they both got their moves from this guy here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2gEAvOW2nc&feature=related
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
11:05 pm
We could start a chapter in Panama; call it “The Ismless of Panama”.
Yeah, I know; that was awful.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
11:05 pm
AmVet–
Uncle Ralph, the leprachaun of the hedge school, said he was an “Antiismist!”
theyeshaveit
I’m always scared to make comment on someone else’s Engrish…sure as I do, I’ll make a first rate faux pas…it doesn’t stop me, but it does help bring me back down to planet earth….
Fred
April 6th, 2010
11:07 pm
leave it to a liberal to worry about how somethings being said, ignoring what is being said.
Only a liberal can think its reasonable to take one persons property and give it to someone else, because “they don’t have it and its not fair”.
Trying to reason with Liberals is worthless. They’re too stupid to argue with.
I love reading all of the comments posted after the ajc blogs. Its like seeing what happens in a 4th grade classroom when the teacher is out.
My wager is that 75 out of 100 posters on these boards either pay zero income tax, or are actually realize a net benefit from income tax. I’d also wager that 50% voted for Hank Johnson and think the guy is brilliant.
oy vey.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
11:08 pm
I shall bid you all adieu…
Time to check the eyelids for cracks. If I don’t find them early enough, the sunlight really hurts.
Later all!!!
Dusty
April 6th, 2010
11:15 pm
Would someone please “get after” Bookman tomorrow for me? I will be out of town and won’t be here to tell him what I think of his “moderation”. Could it be “provocation” or “life, liberty , pursuit of happiness” ? I dunno. bye now..
Bruno
April 6th, 2010
11:16 pm
“I find the term “believer” fits me”
I used to have difficulty when directly questioned “Do you believe in GOD?” The best answer I can give is “Yes, but probably not the GOD you’re envisioning.”
To me, it all comes down to how we define the word “spirit”. By definition, a spirit is a non-corporal entity, which makes speaking about it very difficult. Unfortunately, many people “of faith” tend to personify spirits, which puts the discussion back in the realm of mythology. I try to take a scientific approach, and define “spirit” as the intelligence which pervades matter, especially living matter. No one can explain this intelligence, but I think it’s dishonest not to recognize it. The fact that leptons and quarks organize themselves into atomic particles, which organize themselves into atoms, into molecules…..into living tissues, into living beings is nothing short of a miracle.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
11:16 pm
SoCo
Good night!
Fred–
How it’s being said is the key to understanding what is being said…jus’ sayin’
And, L-rd, I wish you’d talk to our accountant. Maybe I should have told him we’re liberals!
TGT
April 6th, 2010
11:17 pm
What to Do About Pre-existing Conditions(John H. Cochrane, professor of finance at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, and author of “Health Status Insurance”):
“(Health insurance) problems are real, but the proposed remedy—even more government intervention—is counterproductive. A market-based, deregulation-focused reform is possible, and it will work.
Health care and insurance are service-oriented, retail businesses. There is only one way to reduce costs in such a business: intense competition for every customer. The idea that the federal government can reduce costs by negotiating harder or telling businesses what to do is a triumph of hope over centuries of experience…
But what about pre-existing conditions?
A truly effective insurance policy would combine coverage for this year’s expenses with the right to buy insurance in the future at a set price. Today, employer-based group coverage provides the former but, crucially, not the latter. A “guaranteed renewable” individual insurance contract is the simplest way to deliver both. Once you sign up, you can keep insurance for life, and your premiums do not rise if you get sicker. Term life insurance, for example, is fully guaranteed renewable. Individual health insurance is mostly so. And insurers are getting more creative. UnitedHealth now lets you buy the right to future insurance—insurance against developing a pre-existing condition.
These market solutions can be refined. Insurance policies could separate current insurance and the right to buy future insurance. Then, if you are temporarily covered by an employer, you could keep the pre-existing-condition protection…
A competitive market is the best consumer protection. A car insurer that doesn’t pay claims quickly loses customers and goes out of business…
How do we get to a competitive market? The tax deduction for employer-provided group insurance, which has nearly destroyed the individual insurance market, is a central culprit. If we don’t have the will to remove it, the deduction could be structured to enhance competition and the right to future insurance. We could restrict the tax deduction to individual, portable, long-term insurance and to the high-deductible plans that people choose with their own money.
More importantly, health care and insurance are overly protected and regulated businesses. We need to allow the same innovation, entry, and competition that has slashed costs elsewhere in our economy. For example, we need to remove regulations such as the ban on cross-state insurance. Think about it. What else aren’t we allowed to purchase in another state?”