GOP’s ‘Repeal and replace’ slogan has no grounding in reality
AJC editors and columnists just finished a pretty wide-ranging 80-minute interview with Sen. Saxby Chambliss and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and I took the opportunity to ask a question that had been nagging at me for a while.
Both men stressed that on health care, “repeal and replace” would remain the GOP message into the fall elections. However, both also acknowledged that they would like to retain some aspects of the Democrats’ plan, such as coverage of pre-existing conditions.
I’ve seen that goal expressed repeatedly by Republicans, but I’ve never seen an explanation of how they would accomplish it. Hated as it is, the “pre-existing condition” exclusion often serves a legitimate purpose. Insurance companies use it to discourage “free riders” who would otherwise choose to go without coverage for years, buying a policy only when they come down with a serious illness or injury.
If you somehow tell companies they can no longer deny coverage of pre-existing conditions, you need to provide them another way to eliminate free riders. Under the new law, individual mandates are that tool. As long as everyone is required to have coverage, nobody can game the system and there’s no longer any justification to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions.
So if the GOP plan is going to ensure that pre-existing conditions are covered, as Chambliss and McConnell suggested, how would they do it without individual mandates? What mechanism would they use?
Chambliss and McConnell had no answer. Literally.
After Chambliss fumbled an initial response, McConnell broke in with a long and familiar condemnation of the Democratic plan, including its failure to include tort reform. After a few minutes, I interrupted and brought him back to the question: OK, but how are the Republicans going to cover pre-existing conditions?
“The premiums are going up either way,” he said.
OK, I responded, a little stunned. That doesn’t explain how the Republicans intend to cover pre-existing conditions.
“The premiums are going up either way,” he repeated.
That was that. We moved on, and I still don’t have my answer.
Actually, I guess I do. Republicans clearly understand that the American people want the problem of pre-existing conditions to be solved; it’s also pretty clear that they have no idea how to achieve that goal. In fact, while they campaign on “repeal and replace,” they intend to keep that whole “replace” thing as vague and ill-defined as possible. In response to another question, McConnell said explicitly that the Republicans would not be drafting a specific plan on how they intend to replace ObamaCare. Instead, he said, individual GOP candidates would each be offering their own ideas of what a good replacement might look like.
Those ideas will no doubt include pledges to address pre-existing conditions, even if they don’t have the vaguest idea how.
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Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
7:21 pm
Red Sox-Yankees?
I can’t bring myself to watch any game that has that abomination from Hell, the DH, in it. I won’t even watch an inter-league game.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:22 pm
Hi Mick
Hi AmVet
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:22 pm
“You know as I was reading through the posts most of the give and take was fairly civil until you showed up, then everything changed.”
Of course! It’s all my fault. Darn! Let me get this straight, it’s perfectly fine for left wingers to name call etc… but when someone confronts them by throwing their own hypocrisy in their face…it’s bad?
Jay
April 6th, 2010
7:23 pm
Whodat;
Does this look familiar?
“Come on Midori, be a pro and throw out better insults. Let’s see how far you can go!”
“Whodat” must be Cajun for “Who, me?”
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:24 pm
who dat
There are people here who can agree to disagree without the condescending attitude and disrespect of one’s opinion.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
7:25 pm
AmV
I haven’t had the double yet, but I have one of Stone’s Russian Stout waiting on any special event. I’ve been looking for one in particular (Pirminator by Parkbrau) but can’t find it. It’s German, of course, so maybe I’ll get my hands on it when I make it across the Atlantic.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:26 pm
ROFL!!
And I’m not even Cajun
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:26 pm
AmVet, Southern Comfort,
forget German. Japanese is the way to go!
Try Sapporro.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:27 pm
Back to the Red Sox/Yankees?
Dagnabbit. I’m not at all into jealousy but I shore do wish I had MLBN!
Hillbilly, I love your baseball and music and history and overall life knowledge, but bro you gotta let up on the detestable going on 40 year DH.
Sure if either of us was King it would be gone, but we ain’t…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
7:27 pm
eyeshaveit
“Tell me. Does Palin still think Africa is a country, or has she managed to take a correspondence course in geography by now?”
Yeah, she studied under Professor Obama. She now knows it’s one of the 57 states!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:28 pm
“Does this look familiar?”
By that time she’d already called me fungus and a moron.
You were saying?
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
7:28 pm
Amen Mick!!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:28 pm
“There are people here who can agree to disagree without the condescending attitude and disrespect of one’s opinion.”
Did you not say that I had lime disease this morning?
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:28 pm
I’ve found, when called on the carpet, sometimes the best response is no response.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
7:29 pm
Midori
I think I tried that one before. It gets harder to remember each day. The only continent I haven’t had beer from is Africa, unless you count Miller since it was purchased by SAB.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:30 pm
““Whodat” must be Cajun for “Who, me?””
Noticed you overlooked the previous 15 condescending comments by a few other bloggers.
Just sayin.
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:30 pm
Mcconnell and chambliss an undynamic duo if there ever was one. Kentucky had a chance to get rid of mitch but he scrapped out a win and the country is worse off for it. What kind of person is only interested in parliamentary manuevers just to obstruct? A loser who puts country last.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
7:31 pm
AmVet
Well don’t even get me started on pitch counts and quality starts.
jt
April 6th, 2010
7:32 pm
For the lefties who attend their first tea party party.
1. Wearing Birkenstocks and smelling like Patchouli will arouse suspicions.
2. Do not wear Code Pink or GreenPeace shirts.
3. Racial slurs are to be avoided.
4. Do not be overly concerned about visible firearms.
5. Hat removed and hand placed upon heart required for National Anthem.
6. Unlike lefty events, civility and respect are mandatory.
7. Respect your elders.
I am just trying to help. We are all tea partiers now. Except Kamchak.
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:33 pm
who dat
**There are people here who can agree to disagree without the condescending attitude and disrespect of one’s opinion.”**
**Did you not say that I had lime disease this morning?**
Only because you said you had a tick…tick..tick
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:34 pm
“What kind of person is only interested in parliamentary manuevers just to obstruct?”
Pelosi
Reid
Kerry
Biden
@@
April 6th, 2010
7:34 pm
Who dat?
Ok, you gotta help me out here.
I’ll do my best. It looks like you could be banned due to the weak will of others. Doesn’t seem fair to me.
In other words, they bruise easily. Their problem, not yours.
I went back to the previous thread to see how things started out. You posted a coupl’a good links…brought things to my attention that I would not have known otherwise. Some leftist suffered a knee-jerk and it was off and limping from there.
Aaahhhhh, don’t take it personally, AmVet….it was what it was.
Bob, weave, jab…JAB! Online pugilism at its finest.
Have I mentioned I’m a big boxing fan? Couldn’t tell ‘ya the names or rankings but I DO LIKE a good fight.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:35 pm
“Only because you said you had a tick…tick..tick”
AH, well I was just going off of what Kamchak wrote.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:36 pm
SoCo, my experience is that pretty much everything by Stone is great.
And for me that’s the trick, find a brewery I really like and then have fun. Even so, some times I run into a bust, but generally I’ve had great luck.
Three of my favorites:
The aforementioned Stone (Escondido, Ca.)
Dogfish Head (Milton, De.)
Unibroue (Chambly, Québec)
And very sadly we lost one of the best in the country about six years ago – Dogwood Brewery, Atlanta, Ga.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:36 pm
“It looks like you could be banned due to the weak will of others. Doesn’t seem fair to me.”
That’s exactly my thought.
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:38 pm
who dat
See, just a little misunderstanding.
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
7:39 pm
I’ve found, when called on the carpet, sometimes the best response is no response.
Ain’t happenin’.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
7:40 pm
AmV
I’m a member of the German/Belgian camp. Lately, I’ve been sampling the microbreweries here. That’s how I got turned on to Stone. Troegs (Harrisburg, PA) has some good ones. I didn’t find anything from them that I didn’t like. Typically, I’ll choose a Hefe first and an IPA as a backup.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:40 pm
Hi Kammie
oh well
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:41 pm
“Well don’t even get me started on pitch counts and quality starts.”
Yeah, some of the stats and numerology in the game is very obtuse and frankly pretty useless in my opinion.
But my biggest gripe is how the umps have purposely taken the strike zone hostage.
(Remember when there was an AL and an NL strike zone?????)
I swear to you know who, if they can’t get it right, just ditch them and put in the K zone!
Otherwise they do a heckuva job in the field (generally)…
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
7:42 pm
Okay, now, I already tolja…the SPDDDD takes high umbrage at the attack on Who dat’s monniker…
And Who dat is NOT Cajun..even though Cajuns use it…it’s origins are obscure, but most likely it comes from the jazz musicians and seems to have become a part of the popular language of ALL South Louisianans sometime around the turn of the last century.
I’m not for banning anybody—and I’m particularly thin skinned…
SoCo–
Try some of the South African ones…not a beer aficionado myself, but I’ve heard some speak highly thereof…
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:44 pm
Midori
Sorry – good evening…got that satellite yet?
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:45 pm
“And Who dat is NOT Cajun..even though Cajuns use it…it’s origins are obscure, but most likely it comes from the jazz musicians and seems to have become a part of the popular language of ALL South Louisianans sometime around the turn of the last century.”
Once and for all, I am a SAINTS fan. Nothing more nothing less.
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
7:45 pm
Hiya Midori. Last year I gave you some advice on honey as a homeopathic treatment for pollen allergies. Did you try it? If so, has it worked for you this allergy season?
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:46 pm
SoCo, most people don’t know it but the tiny country of Belgium is arguably the world’s greatest beer nation. Countless renown breweries and beers. And if you like their doubles, triples and quadruples, you could easily die such that the mortician could not get the smile of your face…
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:46 pm
“There are people here who can agree to disagree without the condescending attitude and disrespect of one’s opinion.”
Of course, it’s when one gets name called etc.. that is a problem. Yeah, I provoke because this is a one-sided blog.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:47 pm
“most people don’t know it but the tiny country of Belgium is arguably the world’s greatest beer nation.”
Chimay being one of the best.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
7:48 pm
AmVet said, “Bosch, it is beyond comprehension to me that he would come back from his banishment to the blogging land of nod and do virtually the exact same cr@p all over again!
Call me crazy, but that’s crazy!
A bizarre blogging death wish…”
Ah, don’t be so hard on poor who dat. Why don’t we take up a little collection and send him out to LA for a little R&R at the RNC’s favorite bondage club. I’m sure the ladies there will – ahem- whip him into shape.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:48 pm
Almost time for Lost.
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:49 pm
**Yeah, I provoke because this is a one-sided blog.**
No, its not and you don’t provoke – you irritate, not because of your views but the way you present them.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:49 pm
“Ah, don’t be so hard on poor who dat. Why don’t we take up a little collection and send him out to LA for a little R&R at the RNC’s favorite bondage club. I’m sure the ladies there will – ahem- whip him into shape.”
Yeah, maybe Bill Clinton and John Edwards could join me!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:50 pm
“No, its not and you don’t provoke – you irritate, not because of your views but the way you present them.”
LOL!!!!!! So I’m the ONLY one who irritates people on this blog? Interesting.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:50 pm
don’t have it yet Mick — waiting for my bonus money
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
7:51 pm
AmVet
“you could easily die such that the mortician could not get the smile off your face…”
From a yiddische MOT this comes…! Love it!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:52 pm
“Why don’t we take up a little collection and send him out to LA ‘
Louisiana or Los Angeles? Someone was pretty embarrassed this morning when they found out Los Angeles was not a state. LOL
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:52 pm
Midori
When you get it check out mike malloy at 9pm – he’s a hoot..
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
7:53 pm
Hiya Midori.
Me too. Please forgive me. With all of the “fun” going on here tonight I didn’t mean to ignore you.
Last year I gave you some advice on honey as a homeopathic treatment for pollen allergies. Did you try it? If so, has it worked for you this allergy season?
Kam, PLEASE share the love. Me and my sinuses are very interested!
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:53 pm
Kammie,
talk about timing!!!
haven’t tried it yet. There’s a woman at work selling local honey, and I j;ust ordered some.
Will let you know the results.
Speaking of pollen, now I know why I abhor pea soup.
YUK!!!!!!!!!!
Jay
April 6th, 2010
7:54 pm
You guys are giving him exactly what he wants.
Sox 1, Yanks 1.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
7:55 pm
Midori said, “AmVet, Southern Comfort,
forget German. Japanese is the way to go!
Try Sapporro.”
I lived near Sapporo in my youth. They make a great beer there.
Midori
April 6th, 2010
7:56 pm
Mick,
Mike is my neighbor!!!! small world!!!
Not next door, but in the same neighborhood
A gang of us have met up several times at Manuel’s.
I adore Mike!!!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:56 pm
“You guys are giving him exactly what he wants.”
Bondage in Vegas? I don’t want that, Jay.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:57 pm
@@
Quick question. Is that same blogger who infiltrated your personal e-mail address still on this blog? Just curious.
@@
April 6th, 2010
7:57 pm
Oooohhhh, I see how this works. When the “opportunity” for leftists to launch attacks is taken away, all they have left is an interactive discussion about their irritated nasal cavities.
Alrighty din!
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
7:58 pm
Who dat…
Calme-toi, mon ami, I was defending you with that post…you were charged with being a racist for your use of the monniker and then it was decided it was Cajun–our great sophisticates of the opinion that Cajun somehow is anything identifiably Louisiana…just trying to defend my heritage
(It’s not Cajun…Unmentionable’s Chahta line is, yeah, Cajun Indians…)
Mick
April 6th, 2010
7:58 pm
Jay – sometimes you just have to get it out – go marlins..what I wouldn’t give to throw out a first pitch..I know I can still zing it..
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
7:58 pm
Southern Comfort said, “Midori, I think I tried that one before. It gets harder to remember each day. The only continent I haven’t had beer from is Africa, unless you count Miller since it was purchased by SAB.”
Got a recommendation for a good beer from Antartica?
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
7:59 pm
“When the “opportunity” for leftists to launch attacks is taken away, all they have left is an interactive discussion about their irritated nasal cavities.”
LOL!!!!!! Pretty much.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:00 pm
josef nix
Oh I know, and I just wanted to clarify that by stating WHY I chose that name.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:00 pm
Oh boy, Maxine Waters is in……..hot water. No pun intended.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:01 pm
“Got a recommendation for a good beer from Antartica?”
Polar Beer.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:02 pm
“You guys are giving him exactly what he wants.”
Always happy to be accomodating…
But, really, he does have a point…it’s just an argument of form over substance…he’s no worse than the rest of us
@@
April 6th, 2010
8:02 pm
Who dat?:
There was no infiltration of my e-mail address. An invasion of privacy nonetheless.
Is that person here? I highly suspect she is incognito(s).
No biggie! It’s how they play the game.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:04 pm
Who dat @ 8:01
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:04 pm
“But, really, he does have a point…it’s just an argument of form over substance…he’s no worse than the rest of us”
I’m actually pretty civil. Just ask HDB. We have plenty of great debates.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:04 pm
“That’s a good one!”
Made that one up off the top of my head. I’m quick like that!
Mick
April 6th, 2010
8:06 pm
josef
Blessed are the peacemakers…..
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:06 pm
“Is that person here? I highly suspect she is incognito(s).”
Just curious and I could probably guess from about 2 different bloggers.
“No biggie! It’s how they play the game.”
Goes beyond a game when they make it personal. Gotta love the left wing crazies.
Hillbilly Deluxe
April 6th, 2010
8:06 pm
AmVet
Yeah I remember; the NL was the low strike and the AL was the high strike. The AL had the old outside chest protector.
Remember how starters used to get upset at being pulled in the 7th or 8th?
Another thing I’d like to see is the same strike zone for everybody. If it’s a strike to a rookie, make it a strike to a star too.
Grumpy
April 6th, 2010
8:07 pm
The watered down mandate in the Democrats’ bill won’t do squat either, for what it’s worth.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
8:07 pm
Who dat said, ” ‘Why don’t we take up a little collection and send him out to LA ‘
Louisiana or Los Angeles? Someone was pretty embarrassed this morning when they found out Los Angeles was not a state. LOL”
The land of the Angels not the Saints.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:08 pm
josef nix
Hmmm, might be cool to actually make and brew a beer and call it that. I could see the beer label being white with fur. Maybe the beer case could be shaped like an igloo.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:09 pm
“Another thing I’d like to see is the same strike zone for everybody. If it’s a strike to a rookie, make it a strike to a star too.”
The best person I have ever personally seen hit ANY strike zone perfectly is Greg Maddox. Best modern day pitcher.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:09 pm
“The land of the Angels not the Saints.”
Thanks for clearing that one up.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
8:10 pm
Jay said, “You guys are giving him exactly what he wants.
Sox 1, Yanks 1.”
But, Jay, is baseball still a man’s sport? I already miss college basketball.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:10 pm
“But, Jay, is baseball still a man’s sport? ”
Considering Obama’s pitch…..I’d say it’s a MANS MANS sport. Not a girly man like Obama.
Kamchak
April 6th, 2010
8:11 pm
AmVet
Ingesting locally produced raw honey will help alleviate or eliminate allergy symptoms. Unfortunately in your case, it’s not a cure for what you’re going through. Start eating it now for the next round as it takes time for the body to build up resistance.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:11 pm
“I already miss college basketball.”
I miss college football. No more Tebow. No more Bradford. No more McCoy.
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
8:12 pm
theyeshaveit
If I tell you, the penguins will get me!!! I was sworn to secrecy.
AmV
Speaking of Belgians and leaving with a smile on your face, that sounds like the need for Delirium Tremens from Melle. The pink elephant on the label is what got me to try it, to much satisfaction I might add.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:13 pm
If obozo isn’t the most ri-d-ic-ulous person that ever lived he is running a real close second, just sayin….
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:13 pm
Who dat—
Nah, this is Antarctica–let’s go with penguins maybe a little clip from “Happy Feet”
Mick
For they shall get shot in both cheeks!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:14 pm
“Nah, this is Antarctica–let’s go with penguins maybe a little clip from “Happy Feet””
Penguins are weird.
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
8:14 pm
Who dat said, ” ‘Got a recommendation for a good beer from Antartica?’
Polar Beer.”
Who dat, I actually think that was funny and clever.
Really.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:15 pm
Who dat..
Watch the girly man stuff…I might have to put you on my “snicker-snicker” list, eh sweet and cutie Blogmeister…
Mick
April 6th, 2010
8:15 pm
josef
**For they shall get shot in both cheeks!**
OK – so try not to sit down…
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:16 pm
“Who dat, I actually think that was funny and clever.”
Thank you!
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:16 pm
“Watch the girly man stuff…”
Sorry, maybe I should have wrote, he throws WORSE than any girl I have ever seen throw a ball. At least he wasn’t wearing mom jeans.
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:17 pm
SoCo
The pink elephant on the label…you mean a certain light in the loafers Senator from a neighboring state…
DoggoneGA
April 6th, 2010
8:17 pm
SoCo…I saw you were discussing beer. I’m not a beer drinker, but have you ever tried Rolling Rock?
theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
8:19 pm
Did anyone here see the segment at half time of the Final Four in which Obama skunked Clark Kellog, the former Ohio State star? I have not seen him pitch, but he sure does have a sweet shot from the corner.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:19 pm
I like these:
New Belgium, Goose Island, Kona and Sweetwater.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:19 pm
For some reason, my brew choices won’t post.
AmVet
April 6th, 2010
8:19 pm
Kam, damn and thanks.
SoCo, the Tremens (and Nocturnum) are both exquisite.
And anything that means – (colloquially, the DTs, “the shakes”, “the horrors”, “the heebie geebies”,”the fear”, “the abdabs”, “the staggers and jags”, “the jimjams”, “jazz hands”, “the shakes and the heaves”, or “the rats”; afflicted individuals referred to as “jitterbugs” in 1930s Harlem slang; literally, “shaking delirium” or “‘trembling madness” in Latin) – is worth a try!
josef nix
April 6th, 2010
8:20 pm
Mick
“..so try not to sit down…”
Just shut up, eh?
Hey folks, I’m happy. It’s afer sunset… ham and cheese on white bread with mayo and buttermilk, jambalaya and cheesecake…no more misery until fall!
@@
April 6th, 2010
8:20 pm
Who dat?:
Goes beyond a game when they make it personal.
No harm (other than what had, up until then, been a somewhat congenial relationship). I never forget a wrong.
Gotta love the left wing crazies.
No I don’t. I just have to strive to be anything but….
To be perfectly honest, when I first came here, I held some of my own liberal tendencies. jay’s leftists have shown me that there is no value in holding onto them. If they ARE what I WAS then I have lost nothing.
TaxPayer
April 6th, 2010
8:22 pm
Who dat? LA
What more could one need to know about that one. Yawn.
Who dat?
April 6th, 2010
8:22 pm
“I have not seen him pitch, but he sure does have a sweet shot from the corner.”
Well, I’d be happy to supply the presidents “awful” pitching style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSLmyEnzscU&feature=related
Southern Comfort
April 6th, 2010
8:22 pm
I tried it years ago. I should have majored in biochemistry in college with all the fermented beverages I consumed.
josef
As funny as that is, I must say, it’ actual pink elephants. They even have a fan group that’s related to the Pink Elephant. Wiki says, “In 1992, the “Confrerie van de Roze Olifant” (Brotherhood of the Pink Elephant) was founded to promote Delirium Tremens and other beers of Melle.”
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...
April 6th, 2010
8:23 pm
Can’t even name one freaking player from his “favorite” baseball team, what a stooge.
stands for decibels
April 6th, 2010
8:23 pm
Without knowing where the thread’s turned, I just wanted to say:
thank you, Jay, for asking the questions on nearly everyone’s mind…..
like she said.