GOP’s ‘Repeal and replace’ slogan has no grounding in reality

AJC editors and columnists just finished a pretty wide-ranging 80-minute interview with Sen. Saxby Chambliss and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and I took the opportunity to ask a question that had been nagging at me for a while.

Both men stressed that on health care, “repeal and replace” would remain the GOP message into the fall elections. However, both also acknowledged that they would like to retain some aspects of the Democrats’ plan, such as coverage of pre-existing conditions.

I’ve seen that goal expressed repeatedly by Republicans, but I’ve never seen an explanation of how they would accomplish it. Hated as it is, the “pre-existing condition” exclusion often serves a legitimate purpose. Insurance companies use it to discourage “free riders” who would otherwise choose to go without coverage for years, buying a policy only when they come down with a serious illness or injury.

If you somehow tell companies they can no longer deny coverage of pre-existing conditions, you need to provide them another way to eliminate free riders. Under the new law, individual mandates are that tool. As long as everyone is required to have coverage, nobody can game the system and there’s no longer any justification to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions.

So if the GOP plan is going to ensure that pre-existing conditions are covered, as Chambliss and McConnell suggested, how would they do it without individual mandates? What mechanism would they use?

Chambliss and McConnell had no answer. Literally.

After Chambliss fumbled an initial response, McConnell broke in with a long and familiar condemnation of the Democratic plan, including its failure to include tort reform. After a few minutes, I interrupted and brought him back to the question: OK, but how are the Republicans going to cover pre-existing conditions?

“The premiums are going up either way,” he said.

OK, I responded, a little stunned. That doesn’t explain how the Republicans intend to cover pre-existing conditions.

“The premiums are going up either way,” he repeated.

That was that. We moved on, and I still don’t have my answer.

Actually, I guess I do. Republicans clearly understand that the American people want the problem of pre-existing conditions to be solved; it’s also pretty clear that they have no idea how to achieve that goal. In fact, while they campaign on “repeal and replace,” they intend to keep that whole “replace” thing as vague and ill-defined as possible. In response to another question, McConnell said explicitly that the Republicans would not be drafting a specific plan on how they intend to replace ObamaCare. Instead, he said, individual GOP candidates would each be offering their own ideas of what a good replacement might look like.

Those ideas will no doubt include pledges to address pre-existing conditions, even if they don’t have the vaguest idea how.

472 comments Add your comment

Ira in East Lake

April 6th, 2010
4:21 pm

I’m just shocked they didn’t revert to intoning the ability of the free market to make everything better.

What boobs.

Southern Comfort

April 6th, 2010
4:22 pm

Did you expect anything different or even a concrete plan?

Jay

April 6th, 2010
4:23 pm

I expected SOMETHING.

TaxPayer

April 6th, 2010
4:26 pm

Typical Republicans. They do well as long as they are not forced to deal with reality. I’m surprised that they did not answer with something like “Drill Baby Drill” or “Death Camps” or even toggle between the two.

larry

April 6th, 2010
4:27 pm

Wasnt individual mandates orginally a Republican idea? I believe they thought that up back in ‘93 when President Clinton was trying to get his health care reform plan passed. And now they are against something they were for. Why am i not suprised.

Southern Comfort

April 6th, 2010
4:27 pm

Jay,

If you were dealing with policy advisors or think-tank people, you should have expected an answer. With a politician, just be glad that you left with your wallet intact. I don’t think any of them could give you directions from the Capitol to National airport.

Matilda

April 6th, 2010
4:28 pm

Informative piece, Mr. B! I like it when reporters ask direct questions of our representatives. I noticed a similar dynamic from Rep. Tom Price (R-6th) at his health care town hall meeting last September. A constituent relayed the story of her family’s struggle to care for her daughter, who was refused insurance from birth due to a congential condition. They’ll never be able to save, retire, move, or know any of the rewards of a hard-working multiple-income family, as it’s all they could ever do to barely keep up with her medical needs. >>> How would Rep. Price address the needs of families like hers? Rep. Price regurgitated a party-sanctioned talking point about “government takeover,” then moved quickly to the next person in line. He demonstrated no concern and no intent whatsoever to address the troubles such families. Fortunately for Dr. Price, I believe “Bring Back Pre-existing Conditions!” will fit nicely on a bumper sticker, should he face a real challenger in this year’s election.

theyeshaveit

April 6th, 2010
4:29 pm

They do not have the vaguest idea how, because that, and indeed health care itself, are not the priority. We would do well to recall that prior to any vote on health care reform, Boehner had announced that defeating Obama on HCR would be his Waterloo. Well, that did not happen. Republicans are praying for repeal and replace to score political points. It is not about health care, not about adherence to the Constitution, or any of the other “reasons” they might pull out of their – ahem- hats. It is all about defeating Obama. Always has been. Always will.

GoingBroke

April 6th, 2010
4:29 pm

LOL @ Jay.. Why expect anything.. there is a big difference between running on a platform and actually running on a plan.. could have been worse..

Pres Obama.. minus teleprompter.. 17 minute / 2500 word answer to a woman that asked a question about taxes.. I like the term that the reporter used to describe the audience.. “dazed and confused” at the end.. :)

Bosch

April 6th, 2010
4:30 pm

I’m sure it will be like the Jedi performing mind tricks on the weak-minded. The GOP will say something along the lines, “Instead of what is in the current health care bill, we will assure that all pre-existing conditions are covered and that no one will ever be able to be dropped from their policy due to illness.”

The people will go Hooray!!!! Not realizing that it’s already in there and the GOP will look like heroes – cause the attention span of the average American (and quite frankly, I’m beginning to think the intelligence of) is severely lacking.

jconservative

April 6th, 2010
4:30 pm

I would think that the pre-existing condition part of the new law would remain on the books. A mandate on insurance companies is one way, a government program is another and the mandate on individuals as we will now be doing is the other. A mandate on private business is very unrepublican and is, in effect a tax. Will Republicans go for a government program? Maybe, Medicare Part D was a Republican idea and is now law.

This is why politics is fascinating.

TaxPayer

April 6th, 2010
4:30 pm

I expected SOMETHING.

Well, there you go! Why did you expect something!

joe matarotz

April 6th, 2010
4:31 pm

Jay, you were talking to politicians. They all gave up a long time ago on ‘dazzling them with brilliance’. All that is left is plan B, ‘baffling them with…’ It’s great to see our government at work.

theyeshaveit

April 6th, 2010
4:32 pm

larry said, “Wasnt individual mandates orginally a Republican idea? I believe they thought that up back in ‘93 when President Clinton was trying to get his health care reform plan passed. And now they are against something they were for. Why am i not suprised.”

Romney gave his state mandates. But, oh, he is still against HCR because he says it was not done at the state level. Oh, right.

josef nix

April 6th, 2010
4:32 pm

JAY

Surely you’re not that naive. You knew going in you wouldn’t get a straight answer. These are politicians.

Southern Comfort

April 6th, 2010
4:34 pm

I hate to say it Jay, but you would have been better off asking that question to a pair of donkeys. That way, there would have been no pretenses of you asking a serious question to a pair of jacka$$es who didn’t have a clue about what you were asking.

Jackie

April 6th, 2010
4:37 pm

Frank Luntz survey talking points. The words mean nothing because they have basis in fact.

getalife

April 6th, 2010
4:37 pm

The rnc drama is too much for me.

I ate too much popcorn.

retiredds

April 6th, 2010
4:38 pm

Jay, just like McCain being a “maverick”, and Romney being against health care reform, and “Mission Accomplished” and “deficits don’t matter”, etc., etd. the “Repeal and Replace” is a nice slogan for the party of no. What they are really saying is let’s repeal this thing and then not replace. McConnell and Saxby couldn’t answer your question because they don’t have a clue. Let’s not forget they are the “just trust us” crowd. As in the past their slogans are just that, meaningless and designed to deceive.

Midori

April 6th, 2010
4:39 pm

thank you, Jay, for asking the questions on nearly everyone’s mind…..

GoingBroke

April 6th, 2010
4:39 pm

Jay.. did they take off their coats and roll up their sleeves so they could be like the “working man”?

Hillbilly Deluxe

April 6th, 2010
4:42 pm

“The premiums are going up either way,”

Well, he was at least telling the truth there.

We need to send out a prayer for those people up in W VA.

theyeshaveit

April 6th, 2010
4:44 pm

retiredds said, “Jay, just like McCain being a “maverick”, and Romney being against health care reform, and “Mission Accomplished” and “deficits don’t matter”, etc., etd. the “Repeal and Replace” is a nice slogan for the party of no. What they are really saying is let’s repeal this thing and then not replace. McConnell and Saxby couldn’t answer your question because they don’t have a clue. Let’s not forget they are the “just trust us” crowd. As in the past their slogans are just that, meaningless and designed to deceive.”

Real answers are not in their playbook. The drone of party ideology like Tinnitus in the ear is all we can expect from them.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

April 6th, 2010
4:44 pm

I know, but the dummycrats are gonna get it grounded right up their keisters, just sayin….

Obama Can’t Name A White Sox Player

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/04/06/obama_cant_name_a_white_sox_player.html

What a stooge, fake person, clown, Comunisky Field my…..

RW-(the original)

April 6th, 2010
4:44 pm

Look who’s the newest birther.

MICHELLE OBAMA: Surrounding HIV testing which is still plaguing so many of our communities, which you all know a lot of that is due to homophobia. Barack has led by example. When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test.

RB from Gwinnett

April 6th, 2010
4:45 pm

If only you would ask such relevant questions of Obama….

DoggoneGA

April 6th, 2010
4:45 pm

“the “Repeal and Replace” is a nice slogan for the party of no”

That’s absolutely correct. They have a SLOGAN, they don’t NEED a plan. They have a SLOGAN, and that’s all they need.

theyeshaveit

April 6th, 2010
4:47 pm

Whiner, can you for once try to get on topic instead of spitting your typical drivel?

GoingBroke

April 6th, 2010
4:50 pm

theyeshaveit
April 6th, 2010
4:47 pm
“Whiner, can you for once try to get on topic instead of spitting your typical drivel?”

Drivel being.. Obama is lost and clueless without a teleprompter?

josef nix

April 6th, 2010
4:50 pm

RW–

Ooooh! So he isn’t from illegally occupied Hawaii? :-)

theyeshaveit

April 6th, 2010
4:50 pm

RW, we are talking about the Republicans inability to discuss their ideas on the replace portion of their repeal and replace motto. Can you handle it? Get on topic why don’t you?

DoggoneGA

April 6th, 2010
4:50 pm

“can you for once try to get on topic ”

What?! And lose his cushy job? Not a chance.

@@

April 6th, 2010
4:53 pm

Instead, he said, individual GOP candidates would each be offering their own ideas of what a good replacement might look like.

That’s what the American people wanted from the get-go….everyone’s thoughts but Obama and the dems saw it differently.

I find no fault in giving the people what they asked for. It’s all about the collective.

GoingBroke

April 6th, 2010
4:54 pm

The republicans can’t formulate their ideas and the democrats have no idea what they just passed.. nor do they have a clue as to how much it will cost. They are so confused that they use the New York Times as a source to explain parts of the health care plan they just passed.. (whitehouse.gov)
So.. is it better to be clueless or clueless and do damage?

Southern Comfort

April 6th, 2010
4:54 pm

We can’t all be on topic. Somebody has to be the ODD man/woman out!!

Paul

April 6th, 2010
4:55 pm

Not often you get to see such an opportunity for advantage squandered that badly. As I’ve said, their consultants get paid way too much.

Hopefully your fellow journalists will keep pressing the question. Who knows? Someone might just get a coherent answer.

You’re fortunate there were no cameras. When Sen McConnell began filibustering with a nonanswer you did what a journalist was supposed to do – respectfully guide him back on course. If there’d have been cameras present, you would have been excoriated for rude and demanding behavior, as was Brett Baier in his interview with Pres Obama.

Good work.

Midori

April 6th, 2010
4:56 pm

Paul

April 6th, 2010
4:57 pm

RW-(the original)

Good thing his dad wasn’t German and Michelle didn’t say “the Fatherland.” Or English and didn’t say “the Motherland.”

It’s just an expression -

theyeshaveit

April 6th, 2010
4:59 pm

GoingBroke, I will take a man who, originally from Hawaii, is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, and former the president of the Harvard Law Review to your intellectual model, Sarah Palin. The very day Palin mentioned the words teleprompter she was writing the answer to a question that had not been asked yet on the palm of her hand. Ugh. I thought only grammar school kids did that. And how was it that she which question was coming up? But we digress. The topic is Repeal and Replace, I believe. Or do you wish to be as evasive as the folks that Jay interviewed?

RW-(the original)

April 6th, 2010
5:01 pm

RW, we are talking about the Republicans inability to discuss their ideas on the replace portion of their repeal and replace motto. Can you handle it? Get on topic why don’t you?

Actually you seem to be more interested in playing blog nanny. To each his own I guess. As for the topic it wouldn’t have mattered a bit what they said in response to Jay B’s question. We still would have been treated to a biased critique.

GoingBroke

April 6th, 2010
5:02 pm

Paul
April 6th, 2010
4:57 pm

Being of Irish heritage.. does that mean I should start calling Ireland my home?

For some people.. they still want to strive to come into this county legally and become an American.. for some Americans.. they want to become something they are not..

Bosch

April 6th, 2010
5:03 pm

“We need to send out a prayer for those people up in W VA.”

For real. That was hard news to wake up to this morning.

Mr. Snarky

April 6th, 2010
5:03 pm

As usual, the republicans are all hat and no cattle. They tell their constituency what they think they want to hear with no actual plans to accomplish anything. Attempts to repeal will be just as effective as Bush’s attempt to reform Social Security…because most people like Social Security. What a couple of wastes of space!

Bosch

April 6th, 2010
5:04 pm

“We still would have been treated to a biased critique.”

Maybe so, but it would been nice if they’d at least attempted to answer the question so he could have at least attempted some of his “bias.”

Nice twist job there.

TaxPayer

April 6th, 2010
5:05 pm

The three Rs.

Repeal and Replace the Republicans.

Paul

April 6th, 2010
5:05 pm

Hi Midori!!!

Bosch

April 6th, 2010
5:06 pm

Hi Midori!

Hi Paul – where you been lately?

GoingBroke

April 6th, 2010
5:07 pm

Mr. Snarky
April 6th, 2010
5:03 pm

“Attempts to repeal will be just as effective as Bush’s attempt to reform Social Security…because most people like Social Security. What a couple of wastes of space!”

Yeah.. and can you believe the suckers that still think there is money in SS?

@@

April 6th, 2010
5:07 pm

Geez! this is so unbecoming. All the leftists who jump to jay’s defense.

I thought chivalry was reserved for women?

jay, what color panties do you wear?

eddy

April 6th, 2010
5:08 pm

They should have an answer but then again they are politicians!! I would also ask you to convene John Lewis and Hank Johnson to give specifics, as in details not concepts, as to what is actually and factually contained in the Obamacare bill. The sound of silence would be deafening. None of them know..not even Obama but then again let’s get caught up in details.

But then again, some of your regular posters could probably fill in the blanks with all of the “feel good” stuff but nothing substantive.

josef nix

April 6th, 2010
5:08 pm

On topic? How many more ways can you say, Jay, you expected something? Silly, boy… :-)

Paul

April 6th, 2010
5:09 pm

Going broke

[[Being of Irish heritage.. does that mean I should start calling Ireland my home? ]]

I believe the custom is “home” refers to where you currently live, whereas adding “land” means the land which is one’s ancestral home.

So with Ireland, you could say ‘my Ireland homeland” or “the land of the Ires which was my landed home before I found home. Where my land is.”

But no one will know what you’re talking about. So I’d recommend “Irish homeland.”

Paul

April 6th, 2010
5:10 pm

Bosch

Out on business travel.

Bosch

April 6th, 2010
5:11 pm

Paul,

Oh, I thought you might have snuck off to ABBAland again.

Paul

April 6th, 2010
5:11 pm

Bosch

Sorry, didn’t mean to be curt.

Hi!

DoggoneGA

April 6th, 2010
5:11 pm

Actually, if they ever DO come up with a replacement plan, I’ll be interested to see it.

Bosch

April 6th, 2010
5:11 pm

Doggone,

Yeah, I’m sure the pictures will be awesome!

Bosch

April 6th, 2010
5:12 pm

Paul,

Oh, and yeah, I’m so offended! :-)

Matilda

April 6th, 2010
5:12 pm

“I find no fault in giving the people what they asked for. It’s all about the collective.”

You mean like when the people (the majority of voting citizens) asked for health care reform via choosing the Presidential candidate (and a buncha legislators) who ran on that platform back in the ‘08 election? Nice to have you aboard!

AmVet

April 6th, 2010
5:13 pm

Clueless Saxby and At a Loss Mitch are typical of the new age GOP.

Both are disgraceful excuses for “representatives” of we the people…

Southern Comfort

April 6th, 2010
5:14 pm

good point josef…

Paul

You also have to consider that for ages, Blacks here in the U.S. have referred to Africa as “the Mother Land”. Personally, as long as he’s human and American nothing else should matter.

Keep up the good fight!

April 6th, 2010
5:14 pm

@eddy…. notwithstanding your nonsensical attack…..the law is out there. The Republicans want to campaign on Repeal and Replace….now, it seems that with hiring Steele’s family as speechwriters and with the other spending that someone should be asking them the tough questions of what are you actually going to do if elected. They have had months to come up with a plan. SO who is it that actually has a “feel good” slogan (at least to the wingnuts) and nothing substantive? They dont have to write it themselves..they can adopt the ideas of others, they can use their own ideas from the past….they can have their staff tweak it into a specific plan….but if you are going to run around saying “repeal and replace”…ya just might want to have a “replace” portion of that reponse…..

DoggoneGA

April 6th, 2010
5:15 pm

“Yeah, I’m sure the pictures will be awesome!”

Cute! Personally, I think they’re like anarchists…they know what they DON’T want, they don’t know what they DO want.

Pogo

April 6th, 2010
5:15 pm

Jay, look no further than your revered leader, Obama, for an example of a politician not being able to intelligently respond to a question from a reporter. He still, to this day, does not understand HIS own healthcare plan that passed. The speech referred to above by GoingBroke that was given to the battery factory employees in NC is proof enough of this. And Obama is the president (or is supposed to be)! So you expect any other of this band of goofs (comprised of both parties) to be able to give an intelligent answer? Jay, why don’t you open your eyes and at least admit that when it comes to having a competent government, this country is in one hell of a mess. The days of looking at our government and siding with the Democrats or the Republicans is way, way gone. If you still insist upong adhering to this sad political philosophy, that pretty much makes you a pathetic dinosaur or a moron ( which I don’t think you are). As for repealing the legislation, it needs dramatic overhaul. Whether that means appealing it or just amending it, it doesn’t matter. It is a very flawed piece of legislation that needs fixing or abolishing, depending upon who does the fixing how they fix it. The idea of mandatory coverage of “pre-existing conditions” on the surface sounds like a noble cause that everyone should support. But as with everything else, it isn’t as simple as you would like to make it out to be. There are abusers of every system the government controls and people will find a way to abuse this clause. The controls to prevent such abuse are not in this bill and it is wide open to abuse.

Besides, we all know when it comes down to it, you can’t trust a government worker.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/state-employees-charged-in-440396.html

Paul

April 6th, 2010
5:16 pm

Replacement Plan

Keep coverage for preexisting. Keep no dropping when sick. Claim you were for it all along. Include tort reform.

Cut welfare subsidies for families making upwards of $90K a year. Take a portion of the money saved and put it in a fund. Seed money. If someone gets sick and decided to not get insurance, use that money to pay the bills. Then bill the guy who got cured according to insurance reimbursement rates. Set up a repayment plan like a mortgage, unable to be avoided through bankruptcy. Say it’s part of the Republican ideal of self sufficiency. You want to take a risk and be stupid, don’t expect others to bail you out.

It’s about the only set of replacements that’s at all consistent with what they’ve said.

Paul

April 6th, 2010
5:17 pm

Bosch

“I’m so offended.”

Easy to see how your brain was addled, thinking about Abba and all -

danjonglee

April 6th, 2010
5:19 pm

Instead of focus on party out of power….why not focus on party that’s actual making law and forcing unfunded mandates…?

pat

April 6th, 2010
5:20 pm

Wow, I thought democrats behaved so well, remember this isn’t lunatic fringe this is every liberal…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk8gXtffbeY&feature=player_embedded#

Throwing eggs. How rude.

Paul

April 6th, 2010
5:20 pm

SoCom

[[Blacks here in the U.S. have referred to Africa as “the Mother Land”. ]]

That’s interesting. Learn something new every day!

Bosch and I have been discussing the Mother Ship. Wanna join? He’ll help ya’ with the handshake -

josef nix

April 6th, 2010
5:20 pm

Oh, good! I can call the West Bank my home country now and be in line with the acceptable…?

Fundad

April 6th, 2010
5:20 pm

Well there was a plan but everything the idiot Republicrats offered up was shot down by the Dumbocrats.They had proposed: 1. putting people with pre-existing conditions into a government insurance pool aided and supported by federal funds along with their own contributions. 2. Allow private individuals to purchase their own policies with after tax dollars just like people who work for companies that pay for insurance premiums with aftertax dollars.3. Do away with cobra and allow people to keep their policies as long as they continue to pay the premiums.4. Forbid insurance companies to drop coverage on these individuals or to raise their rates beyond a certain point.
5. Streamline regulations and mandates for insurance companies and allow policies to be sold across state lines.6. Allow individuals to easily join and/or form larger insurance pools. 7. Some type of tort reform is needed so that Doctors are not overpracticing medicine to cover their ass in cse they get sued. Insurance reform should have started with some of these things rather than the poison pill we just got that virtually no insurance company can survive long term.

josef nix

April 6th, 2010
5:22 pm

Paul–
You leave Abba out of this… signed, Dancing Queen… :-)

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

April 6th, 2010
5:23 pm

Why would I bother to stay “on topic” when the columnist can’t even truthfully discuss the issue?-

As long as everyone is required to have coverage, nobody can game the system and there’s no longer any justification to deny coverage based on pre-existing conditions

1) The obomination does not require everyone to have coverage. You can either buy a bloated government mandated policy for about 12 grand a year or take the “public option fine” and pay a measly 750 bucks. Why must you lie Bookman?

2) Of course we will never get a recording of this interview so we will never know if my boys were really stuttering or not, and the way dummycrats deal with the truth, I’m going with they did not. Go ahead and tell me Cynthia saw it too, that’ll make all the difference.

3) The real issue of pre existing is when you lose your job or try to transfer your insurance and they discover something in your health check up that they deny.

4) Even by the liberals own count, 44 million people do not have insurance, so taking into account how much a democrat lies, let’s say it is really 22 million. What are there, 20 million illegal aliens now? So now we have 2,000,000 deadbeats that are gaming the system, according to Pinocchio^^ anyway, and I’m thinking, I know that many young healthy adults who choose to not own health insurance, because they see no need.

Can you say fabrication?

josef nix

April 6th, 2010
5:23 pm

Free universal health care and be done with it…

Southern Comfort

April 6th, 2010
5:24 pm

Paul

I don’t know about that Mother Ship. I’ve seen what those people look like. As the old saying goes, “Beauty is only skin deep.” But I’m game if there’s a secret handshake involved. :)

Who dat?

April 6th, 2010
5:24 pm

“GOP’s ‘Repeal and replace’ slogan has no grounding in reality”

Reality is gonna be really bad for left wingers come November.

@@

April 6th, 2010
5:24 pm

Obama’s AWOL!

The bottom line is that apart from a new “resolution authority” used to take over and liquidate failing nonbanks—a power that is likely to affect what happens only after the next crisis hits—the Dodd bill is fast turning into a nonevent.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/235938

Obama did say he liked to delegate…less of a hands-on kinda guy. What that says to me is he doesn’t want his fingerprints on anything that could indict. Leaves him room to place blame…something that he’s well-versed in.

Who dat?

April 6th, 2010
5:25 pm

“Both are disgraceful excuses for “representatives” of we the people…”

Says the guy who thinks Los Angeles is a state.

AmVet

April 6th, 2010
5:25 pm

Paul and josef, you know I respect the hell outta you guys, but DO NOT make me go all Belushi on you with that Abba stuff!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9JYq-mXprw

N-GA

April 6th, 2010
5:27 pm

Well, if all those people with pre-existing conditions would just get off their arses and go out and get a job, then the rest of us wouldn’t have to get stuck paying hteir bills…..dammit!

Keep up the good fight!

April 6th, 2010
5:29 pm

Pogo…ya have the answers…so why dont you sent your plan of fixes to the Republicans since they dont have any plan. Maybe you have a plan for resolving the abuses in our military spending too since savings there would be big.

Its a nice claim to say lets solve abuses but actually writing legislation to preclude any abuse is impossible. Abuse is the nature of any legislation. Legal loopholes and definitional issues. Those are covered by regulations, rules and amending legislation. There are always unintended twists and turns. There are always good exceptions that should be permitted but there may be restrictions that have the unintended consequences of blocking.

“throw them out” without a replacement plan is ridiculous. Health reform is a journey. This law is a beginning, not an end. But Republicans have no plan….and what is the Tea Party plan…or anyone elses?

AmVet

April 6th, 2010
5:29 pm

Looks like I’ll need a good pair of these now that the blog’s leg humper has gone all rabid (again).

http://www.rockcreek.com/patagonia/rain-shadow-pants-mens-18504/?ref=RCO_googlebase

bob

April 6th, 2010
5:32 pm

I wish democrats felt the same way about freeloaders when it came to the rest of society. Paying women to breed and paying druggies with Social Security money has not helped the cause, unless the cause was getting re-elected.

Who dat?

April 6th, 2010
5:32 pm

“Looks like I’ll need a good pair of these now that the blog’s leg humper has gone all rabid (again).”

LOL! Whatever you say LAmVet.

josef nix

April 6th, 2010
5:33 pm

@@

“Obama did say he liked to delegate…less of a hands-on kinda guy. What that says to me is he doesn’t want his fingerprints on anything that could indict. Leaves him room to place blame…something that he’s well-versed in.”

He is a product of the Chicago machine.

Who dat?

April 6th, 2010
5:33 pm

“Paying women to breed and paying druggies with Social Security money has not helped the cause, unless the cause was getting re-elected.”

Ohhhhhhhh, that’s racist!!!!!! You forgot the other half of Democrat voters which includes dead people, felons and illegal aliens.

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April 6th, 2010
5:34 pm

Obama where art thou indeed?

—all signs are that he continues to leave the issue entirely to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and the administration’s chief economic adviser, Larry Summers. This duo, in turn, seems willing to let the Senate do what it wants as long as it doesn’t get too specific in placing new restraints on Wall Street. Rather than putting new rules into law that will break up the banks or restrict them from certain risky practices, Geithner and Summers are banking on the same financial regulators who fell asleep last time, expecting they will use their discretion appropriately to keep an eye on things in the future. As evidence, consider Geithner’s letter to Rep. Keith Ellison, who recently asked for advice on what kind of leverage requirements to put into the bill. None, Geithner replied. “We do not believe that codifying a specific numerical leverage requirement in statute would be appropriate,” Geithner wrote. To impose “fixed, numerical capital requirements in statute,” the Treasury chief added, would only create an “ossified safety and soundness framework.”

Do you leftists ever feel like…….?

Who dat?

April 6th, 2010
5:34 pm

“He is a product of the Chicago machine.”

Actually he is a product of Rev. Wright and Karl Marx.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

April 6th, 2010
5:35 pm

Oh, now we are getting to the bottom of the story-

Mitch McConnell Versus Barack Obama In A Pre-Existing Condition Smackdown- First, the AP, Kaiser Health News and Mitch McConnell are correct. Folks reassured by an appeal to authority will note that the AP has quotes from two Democrats supporting their interpretation:

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2010/03/mitch-mcconnell-versus-barack-obama-in-a-preexisting-condition-smackdown.html

Seems as though McConnell knows more about the obomination than obozo does and embarrassed the little socialist, which ain’t sayin much…

So now AJCStooge has been put on retribution duty by the Regime, hahaha, what third world clown show.

Who dat?

April 6th, 2010
5:35 pm

Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner doesn’t pay his taxes.

Keep up the good fight!

April 6th, 2010
5:36 pm

Fundad….and now for the details? and how about cost?

Tort reform is another of those myths. Does not reduce costs and what about those doctors that are truly bad. Sure a doctor shooting you with silicone from Home Depot needs to be protected from those bad bad lawyers…..after all, its a shame he cant kill/harm more people.

josef nix

April 6th, 2010
5:37 pm

AmVet

Good one!

JAY–
Looks like you struck out on this one, but, hey we’ll have a good time anyway. What else would you expect?

Who dat?

April 6th, 2010
5:37 pm

“Sure a doctor shooting you with silicone from Home Depot ”

Obama would appoint that doctor to be Surgeon General.

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April 6th, 2010
5:37 pm

You leftists do know that Obama is just window dressing for a corrupt congress, don’tcha?

Tell me you know that!

He’s like the Queen of England…a figurehead who either can’t or won’t figure it out.

Del

April 6th, 2010
5:39 pm

Once again a really nice partisan try but it’s not about Republicans at least not at this point. It’s about public opinion that shows significant mistrust and skepticism about Obamacare and that fact is documented in every creditable poll. The first real test of the public’s opinion will be reflected in the upcoming November elections. If Republicans score big then the public will be measuring them on how they would address specific healthcare issues. Unfortunately for Democrats they are on the defensive and taking the offence against Republicans in an attempt to divert public opinion, probably won’t succeed but once again, nice try.

Who dat?

April 6th, 2010
5:40 pm

“He’s like the Queen of England…a figurehead who either can’t or won’t figure it out.”

Well he does throw like a girl.

josef nix

April 6th, 2010
5:40 pm

Who dat–
Wright’s one thing, but Ima Gonna ain’t no Marxist…a left wing justicialist maybe, a Jacobin, definitely, but not a Marxist….

Pogo

April 6th, 2010
5:42 pm

“Free” universal healthcare. Yea right. Nothing is free. It is only “free” to those that know that they won’t have to end up paying for it and I guess the thought process is “to hell with the people that will”.

A prime example of government intervention that can be abused is the Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA). I don’t know if anyone here has ever dealt with this particular piece of a liberal sponsored nightmare or not, but if you do, you’ll be lucky if you come out keeping your job. At the least, you will be almost driven crazy trying to comply with it. This is a piece of legislation that was sponsored by Christopher Dodd and it is one of the worse the government ever came up with. It too, like Obama’s Healthcare legislation, was open to abuse and believe me, it is heavily abused by both the employees and the employers. And to think, it is quite small compared to this Healthcare legislation. Good luck to those that depend upon the government to fix any of your problems. You are going to need it.

josef nix

April 6th, 2010
5:43 pm

He is NOT like the Queen of England and I resent that…star of a third rate drag show, yes…but don’t go giving him airs… :-)

Southern Comfort

April 6th, 2010
5:43 pm

You leftists do know that Obama is just window dressing for a corrupt congress, don’tcha?

Sounds like a valid observation. If the rightists know that, why is there such vehement hatred directed at Obama as opposed to Congress?