Ga. Senate endorses bizarre anti-black conspiracy plot

Ahh, our Republican Leaders at work….makes your proud doesn’t it?

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@#$$*& First with a typo….”you proud”

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Well, obviously the conspiracy is failing without help from the senate. Lunacy pretty much summarizes the actions of our government at all levels.

JDW

March 30th, 2010
7:36 am

It happens to the best of us.

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well, at least the GOP never criticizes black women for deciding to go ahead with the pregnancy and raise the child …

… oh … waitaminnit …

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Thanks TnGelding…little more coffee and all will be right with the world

Good afternoon USinUK how is London today?

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hey JDW ! well, the afternoon is shaping up to be a helluva lot nicer than this morning was … the rain has moved out and the sun is trying to break through … it’s still a bit chilly, though …

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Lunacy indeed. But USinUK is probably right. Legislators who vote against this will be labeled against protecting black babies. GA voters are not known for looking at the facts. If there was ever a race issue, this is one. Stupid if you vote for it, for how would you even prove such a thing, and d@mned if you vote against it. It has been pointed out repeatedly that doctors would never force a woman to have an abortion.

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Do we have even one Georgia Conservative elected to public office that’s neither corrupt nor stupid nor some twisted blend of the two?

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Sen. Vincent Fort, an Atlanta Democrat, detected “a whiff of mendacity if not hypocrisy”

A whiff?

Try a giant, wafting stench-clouds emanating from GA prohibitionists, who are lower than whale scat.

Thanks for calling out these vile knuckle-draggers, Jay. It’s a dirty job but somebody’s gotta do it.

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“Last week, the Georgia Senate gave sanction to a bizarre, destructive and racially condescending conspiracy theory.”

Conspiracy theory being the key words there.

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“Do we have even one Georgia Conservative elected to public office that’s neither corrupt nor stupid nor some twisted blend of the two?”

Better question. Do we have ANY honest politicians in America?

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Southern Comfort, The root of the problem is before the “paternal responsibility” comes into play, (or maybe that is part of the reason men are not taking pregnancy prevention seriously. Chicken and the egg, so to speak) Men and boys who just want fun need to man up and accept a condom if they are not ready to support a baby. Get a grip and take that small amount of time. I guess we need to find a way to make that cool and “manly”.

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hey finneus – weren’t you the person who posted the NYT article about Vince Cable last week??? (the lib dem shadow chancellor)

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Southern Comfort

Yet, I hear nothing but silence when it comes to paternal responsibilities.

Because your boss imprisons them, roughly at a 25% rate. The other 75% are treated like ATMs
by giant corporations who slice off a percentage of what a man pays to support his child.

Yes, the “silence” is deafening. To the tune of about 280 million dollars each year to silence it.

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/

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I think they could all share one cab, Who Dat.

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I was referring to honest politicians, not Muslims. You’re going too fast for me to keep up.

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SoCo – I totally see where you’re coming from … and, yes, everyone should take responsibility for their actions (men, don’t assume the woman is on the pill – and women, even if you are, the pill can – and does – fail)

not to mention, fercryingoutloud, people – for HEALTH reasons, wrap that puppy up!!! I mean … the news this morning was that we have a whole new antibiotic-resistent gonorrhea going around … HPV … chlamydia … AIDS … eeep!!!

but, to get back to the point of forcing men to pay – especially when they don’t have as much say in the decision-making process – I’m really uncomfortable with that. but, hey, YMMV

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“I was referring to honest politicians, not Muslims. You’re going too fast for me to keep up.”

Ah, gotcha! That makes perfect sense. Thanks for clarifying.

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jt

It started way before my current boss. You can’t pin that one on him, as much as some would try.

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The number of muslims that blew up the trains would fit into one cab too. There were two females that did it. They’re suspected of being part of the “black widows” group. I don’t think we’d have to worry about that group here in the US as their beef is with the Russian Government.

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Jay, re microchips. Check out the British TV mini series – The Last Enemy. Available on Netflix streaming.

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Any Braves fans on here? Just read a fantastic article from a PHILLY rag!!!!!!

A Brave new world in NL East

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. – Bobby Cox is 68 years old. At the end of the season, he’ll retire after 25 years as the Atlanta Braves manager. His legacy is already secure. Fifteen playoff appearances, five pennants, a world championship. In all he has managed 4,346 games in the majors.

Jason Heyward is 20 years old. He has never played a single big-league game but is generally considered baseball’s best prospect and his legend has only grown this spring. Against the Detroit Tigers in an exhibition game, he hit a home run that was estimated to have traveled nearly 500 feet. At Champion Stadium this spring, he hit the ball so routinely into the Braves’ staff parking lot during batting practice that a protective net had to be installed after his shots started regularly denting the cars. One even crashed through the sun roof of assistant general manager Bruce Manno’s vehicle, causing $3,400 in damage.

Something old, something new . . .

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20100330_A_Brave_new_world_in_NL_East.html

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Southern Comfort

I didn’t specifically mean President Obama.

And I made a mistake. It is not 280 million. It is 4.3 Billion. Check this out. Basically, your boss has a financial incentive to perpetuate fatherless families.

“The FY 2011 budget requests $4.3 billion for the Child
Support Enforcement program, proposing congressional
action on four legislative proposals.The FY 2011 budget proposes to improve
child support enforcement by authorizing the
Secretary of HHS to take administrative action
on behalf of a state to freeze and seize assets in
accounts in multi-state financial institutions to
satisfy child support obligations. This develops
a uniform federal approach to freezing and
seizing financial accounts that will greatly assist states
in enforcing child support orders across state lines and
will benefit financial institutions by standardizing and
centralizing the freeze and seize.”

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/pubs/2010/csr/csr1003.pdf

Also, I agree with you concerning men’s rights.

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who dat – 8:28 – unless the US starts messing with chechnya, I think we’ll be well away from this fray …

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“unless the US starts messing with chechnya, I think we’ll be well away from this fray …”

THINK being the key word there.

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“If fathers aren’t sent to prison, then they (the prisons) don’t turn a profit. ”

Wowwy wow. And here I thought prisons were funded by taxpayers.

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SoCo, It gets pretty complicated. Suppose lil Suzy is 15 and thought it was a fine thing to have a black boyfriend last month, but that was so last month. Ooops, preggers. She doesn’t want a baby at all, much less a half black baby. How does the law prove or disprove the reason for an abortion? Do we just force lil Suzy to carry the child because it is half black?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_prison#Private_prisons_in_the_United_States_today

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If fathers were in the home raising their children, I don’t think they would be sent to prison for non-support.

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“If Robert Byrd is your example of a hard-core Klanner, I have some beachfront property in Kennesaw you might be interested in buying.”

He’s the democrats klanner problem, not mine.

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“Ooops, preggers.”

Oh how I despise the word “preggers.” So jr. high.

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Gotta Say It… If I were in the GA Senate.. I would have voted for this bill too, I would have been scared not to.

The conversation would have been something like this.. We have this bill that we want to pass to protect against an anti-black conspiracy plot. My comment would have been what conspiracy plot and started to comment on the facts of the issue with statistics, etc. I would have lost.. Next day headlines -

AJC – GA Senator against black babie.

NY Times – Sharpton and Jackson to hold rally at Gold Dome States for admitted racist GA Senator.

Jays Blog – Should this GA Senator still be allowed to hold office?

just saying.. lose lose..

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Whi dat? Well, I was using a 15 year old example.

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going broke – 8:40 – that was exactly my point with my 7:41.

this is as much about “protecting black babies” as it is “promoting lemon meringue pie” … it ain’t.

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“Whi dat? Well, I was using a 15 year old example.”

Whatever you say, Ghoul.

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Those people who don’t want a half black grandchild need to look around. I see many half one race or another and they are all just as cute as a full race child. Little kids are all cute to me, (as long as they are with someone else.)

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“NY Times – Sharpton and Jackson to hold rally at Gold Dome States for admitted racist GA Senator.”

Watched the race pimp on O’Reilly (shoot me), and he was backtracking and lying about being a part of the riots in NY that killed a store owner. These clowns aren’t fit to lick MLK’s toilet seat.

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SoCo, didn’t we gave a State Senator, a while back, actually use prison labor to re model his private property?

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“Ghoul? It may be a stretch, but Who dat? just might be an anti-abortion advocate.”

Well, Gale, you called me Whi Dat so how was I supposed to respond? Liberals and conspiracy theories go hand in hand.

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“Little kids are all cute to me, (as long as they are with someone else.)”

Yeah Gale, we can’t have those little cute halflings get their gross little hands on your Gucci purse now can we?

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Normal

I can’t remember exactly when, but that sounds par for the course here in the South. Before I left Alabama, the governor had re-instituted chain gangs.

UnU

I’m in the booth from time to time. Most of my time now is spent in secondary inspections to see who gets in and who goes back home.

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Pogo

Rahm Emanuels brother had some idea, what was it, OH YES, to sterilize the drinking water in poor black areas so that blacks couldn’t procreate. Liberal love baby!

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USinUK @ 8:09,

yeah, I posted the NYT article about Cable.

I’ll try to catch up here…

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“Sadly, Georgia has had a very long list, of embarrassing (not to mention corrupt and inept) politicians and bizarre laws and policies.”

As has every state in the union.

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USinUK, you nailed it at 7:52. I’d love to tell you just how MUCH, but of course, that would invite the righties whose briefs are cutting off their circulation to explain how all the country’s problems are somehow my fault, though I’ve never taken a dime of public assistance.

As for the Georgia State Senate: What’s the politically-correct way to say “RETARDO-RAMA” without hurting Sister Sarah’s feelings?

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“hey jay, how about planned parenthood setting up there abortion clinics in black neighborhoods!”

Careful there Bear, PP is sacred ground for liberals. It’s their “corner stone” if you will.

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This brings to mind the Freakonomics correlations between the drop in crime rates directly corresponding to increases in abortions.

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Oh, this is just another escapade in the anti-abortion/pro-life/love the baby until its born crowd to intimidate women into not getting an abortion if they chose to do so, or trying in vain to make health care providers not provide the procedure less some idiot will claim their intent was to commit genocide.

Genocide? Really? Our legislatures have really lost their minds.

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Bosch

I’m with you, let’s change the subject to something cooler.

V or Lost? I can’t decide.

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Who dat?

I say V – I stopped watching Lost cause it was too confusing and I got bored trying to keep up with what was going on.

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UnU

It’s a fun job and quite challenging. I prefer people over bags. There’s something satisfying about going head-to-head with someone who’s lying to you and getting them to admit the truth. It takes practice to do it, and there are some countries who’s citizens are harder to break than others.

That’s one of the reasons I’m looking forward to the immigration debate. So many equate illegal immigrants with only those crossing the southern border. No one wants to admit we have a problem with people who enter legally and never leave or violate their visas while here. The 9/11 group all had visas to enter the US legally.

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Today is supposed to be “Online Buddies Day”, so here you go…buddies

Happiness keeps You Sweet,

The IRS keeps you broke.

Trials keep You Strong,

Sorrows keep You Human,

Failures keep You Humble,

Success keeps You Glowing,

But Only Buddies keep You Going! (And How… )

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Who dat?

March 30th, 2010
9:13 am
…It’s called pay back!

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Antichrist! Beware! Of these guys:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-militia-raids30-2010mar30,0,1491379.story

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SoCo – yep – those “students” who are still there 15 years later … the “vacationers” who rent apartments …

I had to jump through all kinds of hoops to live here (as did the mister when he lived in the states) … if I had to do it, they should, too …

who dat – “Weirdest comment I’ve read so far today” – not surprised that you don’t get it …

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“What part of that comment was beyond your grasp? Just curious.”

Oh, so since I pointed out a weird comment, it’s somehow “beyond my grasp?” Tisk tisk kitty cat!

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Finneus – about Vince Cable – last night was the Chancellors’ Debate with Darling, Osborn and Cable — Cable acquitted himself VERY well (as you would expect). Osborn didn’t do too badly, either (which was surprising – most people expected very little from him – he has a deer / headlight tendancy)

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“Oh, just wait til your sweet little daughter turns 12!”

Uh oh, did she steal the family sedan and head to Panama City?

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“if you seem to think a basic statement of facts is “weird”, then, yes, it is obviously beyond your grasp.”

You didn’t state a fact.
The only thing that’s beyond my grasp is whether or not V will be better than Lost tonight.

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“Is it weird to you that health care clinics operate in areas where people cannot afford “regular” private-practice physicians? ”

Health Care clinics don’t perform abortions. Health Care clinics don’t send out “activists” to woo 10 year old girls into killing their babies BEFORE they even have sex for the first time. Health Care clinics don’t set up shop next to crack houses in every major city. Health Care clinics perform basic health care needs like say, check ups, physicals etc..

I’ve never read or heard about poor people going to Planned Parenthood for a routine physical.

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“Or are you just freaked out by anything even remotely related to a “va-jay-jay?” (as indicated by your 9:18)”

Now I finally realize who I’m talking to.

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“The high rate of out-of-wedlock births among black American teenagers represents a continuing cultural, social and economic challenge. Furthermore, liberals and conservatives alike can agree that abortion is not an acceptable solution to that problem. The best approach is suggested by the fact that in societies around the world, pregnancy rates fall as levels of education and affluence in a community increase.”

I see that none of you Libs, including Jay, is willing to give anything more than lip service to the total breakdown of family in the black community. Far more important to make jokes about the Republicans……

The only problem with your theory, Jay, is that both the educational level and affluence have steadily risen in the black community since the 1960s. At the same time, the percentage of out-of-wedlock births has soared. Whenever you get done chuckling about the dumb Repubs, maybe you can devote some of your massive Lib brainpower toward explaining/solving this problem.

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“For being stupid…fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Get it?”

No not really. Mccain threw her under the bus YET calls her back up to help him. Sounds like she’s the bigger asset.

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“I see that none of you Libs, including Jay, is willing to give anything more than lip service to the total breakdown of family in the black community.”

Well, that’s what liberalism is. Keep people poor, keep people down. It’s the liberal way.

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It should be noted this concept did not spring into existence in the Georgia Legislature (altho the fact this issue has been translated to a bill takes it to a new level).

“L.E.A.R.N. Northeast is part of the Life Education And Resource Network (LEARN), a national network of Christian pro-life/pro-family advocates who are dedicated to protecting the pre-born and promoting traditional family values.

LEARN was officially established in 1993 at the African American Pro-Life Planning Conference in Houston, Texas. One of the primary goals of LEARN is to facilitate a strong and viable network of African American and minority pro-life/pro-family advocates.

Therefore, LEARN welcomes into the network all communities who support Christian values and with to ensure the survival of all races of people, and improve our quality of life without sacrificng our children.”

http://www.blackgenocide.org/who.html

You may want to look at the picture.

“Below is the resolution submitted by the Macon chapter to the NAACP Conventions over the past 4 years. It has yet to be read….

“Whereas, the abortion rights movement has long been linked to the politics of eugenicist Margaret Sager, founder of Planned Parenthood, who assisted in organizing the Negro Project, which was devised as a systematic plan for “peaceful genocide” to reduce the black population in the United States …”

http://www.blackgenocide.org/naacp-resolution.html

There are a number of such movements. Some do likely believe it’s a concerted effort targeting African Americans. I think a large part of it is the desire of pro-life groups to expand their membership and power by trying a different recruiting tactic and bringing a number of groups under one ideological umbrella.

So it’s not necessarily dumb whites or racist Republicans.

But the Georgia Legislature, again, fails to understand how to win the PR war.

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Who Dat, thanks for the clarification. I see the problem here. You obviously have NO personal knowledge about the maintenance and care of the female reproductive system, nor any portion thereof. Nor have you ever availed yourself of the services of such a clinic, nor had an honest conversation with any of the health care providers who work there.

Because it would clearly gross you out to discuss details, I’ll keep the overview high-level: Planned Parenthood clinics provide specialized care that YOU don’t need, to people who DO. Sometimes that care comes in the form of terminating an unwanted pregnancy, but their primary function is to help women prevent such an event in their lives, and to provide health care for parts that scare you. See, for women, that kind of care IS a “routine physical.” Ask any man who actually has a woman in his life that he cares about. It’s not weird.

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“Of course a foetus is alive. The issue is viability.”

If you use “viability” as a measure of moral/legal “worthiness”, then you have a changing standard every time medical science progresses. Not a very secure standard.

“Both the egg and the sperm are living cells that BOTH cease to exist at the moment the egg is fertilized. The are both living cells, but no one agitates to protect THEM.”

I’ll add that to your ever-growing list of stupid statements.

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off topic, but related to this and every other thread.

came across this thought-provoking quote from economist John Kenneth Galbraith:

“When people are least sure, they are often most dogmatic.”

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Brunoooooooooooo !!! my friend!!!

did you see? I wrote a haiku just. for. you. last Thursday morning!!!

also, boy-howdy, do I have a movie recommendation for you!!

have you seen Once? if not, RUN, do not walk, to get it!!! you’ll love it! seriously. go. now. get the movie. stop typing and GO.

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Paul

Jay should add that quote from your 9:37 to the banner at the top of the page.

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“ahhhhhhhhh … and there’s the problem … you only know what the sidewalk screamers have told you …”

Yes, the PP workers who woo little girls.

“first of all, the majority of PP clinics do NOT perform abortions.”

Oh forgot, the new “progressive term” is “perform terminations. Got it!

“Planned parenthood also provides cancer screening – both breast and cervical (19% of services), basic pap smears, STD screening (29% of its services), providing birth control (38% of its services). 10% were health services such as pregnancy / fertility testing / prenatal care.”

Hmmmmm, and here I thought that every piece of PP reading material was all about abortions. What was I thinking?????

“abortions make up only 3% of its services.”

Uh huh…….

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“I’ll add that to your ever-growing list of stupid statements”

Gee, I’m flattered that you bother to keep track of what I say. I didn’t know I loomed that large in your life.

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“Yeap, me too – calling people “baby murderers” is getting old and turning off many to their cause.”

Sort of like Liberals calling anyone who disagrees with Obama, racists? Yep, that does get old.

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“just cuz it doesn’t fit with your little (very little) view of the world, doesn’t make it false.”

Oh goody! A smarter than thou liberal tries to put me down! How intelligent!

Next you’ll be asking to compare SAT scores, IQ’s, Mensa scores etc…..

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For many, introspection is not a strong suit.

For many, introspection is an imaginary suit. That sounds better.

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“Part of that is because Blacks are not getting married.”

SC–I guess that would be the obvious explanation as to the high number of out-of-wedlock marriages in the black community.

Here’s a link which scratches the surface a little:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/923fdspn.asp

From the link:

“In 1963, according to the famous Department of Labor report issued by Daniel Patrick Moynihan two years later, the out-of-wedlock birth rate among blacks was 23.6 percent while the rate among whites was only 3.07 percent. By 2005, according to the National Center for Health Statistics, the out-of-wedlock birth rate among non-Hispanic whites had jumped to 25.3 percent and the rate among non-Hispanic blacks stood at nearly 70 percent. In other words, the black out-of-wedlock birth rate was lower in 1963–on the eve of the Civil Rights Act, when Jim Crow policies were still an ugly reality in the American South and white racism was far more widespread than it is today–than the non-Hispanic white rate was in 2005.”

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“Whenever you get done chuckling about the dumb Repubs, maybe you can devote some of your massive Lib brainpower toward explaining/solving this problem.:

Interesting. High out-of-wedlock births. High college prices. High medical-care prices.

There is a common denominator.

Hence the silence from the progressives.

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Dogone at 9:26

I hear your argument, but just like I think society has a responsibility, if possible, to help those less fortunate and those in need I tend to feel that a Mother has a responsibility to the unborn child. You are right the child is helpless and in need of care and nurturing and in 90% + of the cases I think it is the Mother’s responsibility to do so.

The moment of choice and responsibility for her body was at the moment of consensual sex. We need to do a much better job of educating our children on how to handle that moment.

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“Oh goody! A smarter than thou liberal tries to put me down!”

alls I can say is that an INTELLIGENT person acknowledges the facts rather than parroting the myths of “lured 10-year-old girls” (you do realize that most 10-year olds aren’t menstruating, yet, don’t you???)

in other words, I don’t have to put you down … you do that to yourself just fine without my assistance.

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jt – “There is a common denominator”

um. “high”?

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Finn – “But, if the Liberal Party doesn’t have the votes then they’d probably have to make promises like “free beer” to get them, wouldn’t they?”

meh – granted, this is the first general election I’ve been here for, but the Lib Dems are too small to pander (you generally only see that when you actually have a prayer of winning). they usually position themselves as the party that holds the other parties’ feet to the fire and keeps them honest.

the good thing is that the poll of the people in attendance at the debate saw an increase in the number of people who will vote for either the Lib Dems or the Tories.

gah! just not more GB!!!

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who dat – “You don’t read well, do ye? I said “PP workers woo little 10 year old girls BEFORE they ever have sex.” ”

wow … so, they’re educating girls to take care of themselves if they become sexually active???

and you think that’s a BAD thing, do you???

yeah, let’s give them more of that “just say no” crap – because that’s working out SO well, with rising STD and teen pregnancy rates …

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Talking about bizarro world. Not unlike the use of tobacco taxes, marraige is nonconducive to a centralized state, therefore will be taxed——————

“From 1913 to 1969, married couples had an advantage when it came to income taxes. However, because of the 1948 income-splitting tax-code which many thought was unfair to singles, the law was changed in 1969. The tax raise of 1993 made matters even worse for married couples. Married folks also took a hit by some targeted tax cuts enacted in 1997.”

http://marriage.about.com/od/finances/a/marriagepenalty.htm

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“Other than the Dead

Bruno has great taste in tunes

which is why he rocks”

Alright, USinUK, you got me on that one!

Since you weren’t here last Friday night, here’s a nice Bill Withers song dedicated to you and your hubby:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYi7uEvEEmk

“A Lovely Day”

For SC and his wife also ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Bruno

That’s an interesting story. I don’t agree with it wholeheartedly, but it does raise some interesting points. I’ve seen both sides of the coin. I know people who are not married that have kids. They’re raising them as a family unit, however they have no urge to get married. I also know people who have kids where the DNA donor is a dead-beat. I think the problem is far more complex than many want to believe, and there is no simple solution to fix it.

What has to happen is an inner-revolution of sorts. Integration did to Blacks what no amount of Jim Crow could ever do. It broke the drive for success for some. Prior to integration, Blacks were doctors, lawyers, cab drivers, and even nannies. You had the “Black Wall Street” area of Greenwood in Tulsa, OK and other areas like it. Now those things are still present, but not in the same abundance as before.

I could go on and on about this, but this isn’t the time or forum.

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“wow … so, they’re educating girls to take care of themselves if they become sexually active???

and you think that’s a BAD thing, do you??? ”

Reality escapes you UK.

“yeah, let’s give them more of that “just say no” crap – because that’s working out SO well, with rising STD and teen pregnancy rates …”

Yep, condoms worked well in Africa, eh!

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So when the Republicans agree with the sentiment shared by most Black Democrats, the Republicans are attacked like this.

I guess the democrats are really particular about who is allowed on that plantation. Looks like your plantation population is starting to see how it works.

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who dat – “Reality escapes you UK”

not really – however, intelligent debate seems to be beyond you if that’s the best you can come up with (oh, that and “imaginary friends” …??? what are you – 8???)

and, as for africa, where RAPE is endemic and myths have been created that raping younger and younger virgins will cure AIDS, you’re comparing apples and chalkboards.

normally, I’d say “nice try”, but that doesn’t really apply here …

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Oops. Wrong link, that was the 2007 report.

try again.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/AR08_vFinal.pdf

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NIFfy! you still think PPA is a for profit corporation?

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Official Federal Government Food Stamp Guide. If TWO incomes are considered, you usually aren’t eligible for anything. This is called subsidizing fatherless families. I guess the INTENTIONS were good. That is all that counts.

Household Size Amount
1 $176
2 $323
3 $463
4 $588
5 $698
6 $838
7 $926
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“not really – however, intelligent debate seems to be beyond you if that’s the best you can come up with (oh, that and “imaginary friends” …??? what are you – 8???)”

Nope, just sinking to your level. You threw stones so I threw an anvil. Nice try on trying to play the victim. Throw stones and cry uncle. No, that’s not the best I can come up with, but if I did I’d probably get banned.

“and, as for africa, where RAPE is endemic and myths have been created that raping younger and younger virgins will cure AIDS, you’re comparing apples and chalkboards.”

Yep, every single case of AIDS is due to rape….. Facts and data please. Aids has been around in Africa for decades and NOT because of rape alone.

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“Oops. Wrong link, that was the 2007 report.”

Um, where’s their 2009 annual report?

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USinUK

1 in 6 Americans has an STD. Is this from men raping women? Something tells me you’ll blame evil white people AND call me stupid.

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Bruno

Thanks for that Withers tune. I thought about you the other day at work. We were talking about different groups and somebody brought up BT Express. I kinda chuckled and was singing their music the rest of the day. If you have TV1, they have a series that comes on Monday nights that’s like behind the music. I got the chance to see their piece on Rose Royce and part of one they did on Sylvester. It comes on at 9pm.

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Who dat?

March 30th, 2010
9:32 am

“If you think Vets are stupid, you and I have a big problem.”

Stupid no, just posers if you disagree with them.

Who dat?

March 29th, 2010
5:14 pm

“No but I can spot a person posing as a soldier from my computer chair.”

Repulsive, but I’ve experienced it, along with numerous other vets, here more than occasionally.

Support the Troops…

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For a day like this: Mr. Blue Sky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2Ncxw1xfck

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“Something tells me you’ll blame evil white people AND call me stupid.”

wow. those voices in your head are working overtime today …

up. your. dosage.

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Doggone at 9:57

“I wouldn’t argue that, but it’s not always a matter of consent”

If consent to sex was not present then I think the choice should be entirely up to the woman involved.

“if the issue is saving the lives of children, how would YOU go about FORCING a woman to carry her pregnancy to term?”

As I said earlier, given the way our society has evolved it would be almost impossible to completely end the practice. However, we should be able to educate our people that abortion should not be considered as an option except in the most dire of circumstances. To fix this issue we need to stop both sides from beating on their chests and agree that the practice is not a preferable solution and work to minimize it. If the practice should ever become illegal then it is not a question of force, it is a question of obeying the law or suffering the consequences.

“But, know this also, that if you wouldn’t do that…but you WOULD punish her for her decision to abort the fetus, then you, TOO, are a “pro-choice” person…you would just reserve the right to inflict punishment on the woman for making a choice with which you disagree”

So long as the practice is legal there should be not punishment. Should the practice ever become illegal then appropriate punishment should be involved. At the point the practice is illegal then it is not a decision which I disagree it is a violation of the law.

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Hmmm. Don’t I remember something from Obama about eliminating earmarks?
Corruption is running rampant in Washington.
http://www.foxnews.com/

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USinUK
March 30th, 2010
10:14 am

“of course not every single case is due to rape, however estimate of 50% are: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/264771”

You would think the UN would do something about that.. but nah.. out of site.. out of mind..

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Bizzarro time on the blog today!!

Why do people (who claim) to have their own families want to get all up on the personal business of women who are not their wives or daughters? Why do people who claim an aversion to marriage and kids GIVE A RAT’S FUZZY or assert an opinion about the ills of other people’s marital or parenting choices? Why do people who’ve obviously never been raped nor had seed forced upon them claim to be experts on consent? Why do people so deeply entrenched in their own subculture, to the extent that only THEIR way of thinking is acceptable, claim to understand violence and abuses in a culture thousands of miles away?

Must be Spring Fever!!

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Bruno – “I’m still trying to find a video store since the local shop was closed down by the state”

dammit. screen cleaner, please.

amazon it – it’s worth the purchase. I promise.

by “Sunday Morning”, I take it you’re not referring to the old Charles Kurault show …

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“However, we should be able to educate our people that abortion should not be considered as an option except in the most dire of circumstances.”

Generally, I wouldn’t argue with what you said…but on this one, there’s the issue of what’s “dire” about someone’s circumstancese. Unless, we, as a society, are willing to cough up the funds to help raise a child to maturity…when the Mother’s circumstances make it seem impossible to HER, we have no right to interfere in her decision.

And here’s something that I always keep in mind when the subject of abortions comes up: many years ago someone (can’t remember who anymore) said that eventually abortions themselves would lead to fewer abortions…because children who are wanted are much more likely to want their own children.

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“despite being questioned by 2 people, you still haven’t said how posting the facts about why PP locates where it does is “weird”.”

No I have, you just missed it while boasting about how intelligent you are.

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Pogo
March 30th, 2010
10:19 am

“Hmmm. Don’t I remember something from Obama about eliminating earmarks?
Corruption is running rampant in Washington.”

Pogo.. Shhhhhh.. that would make the man a liar.. We have to have controlled truths coming out.

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“um. what exactly is the UN supposed to do?”

Well for one thing, they are great at stealing money from us. They’re also great at condemning Israel but overlooking Iran and North Korea.

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it has become the norm for women to have babies out of wedlock in the black community.

I don’t think it’s just a Black community issue. I think it’s one across the board. As I said earlier, I’ve personally seen both sides of the coin. If it were as simple as you make it sound, the problem could have and would have been addressed long ago and the percentages would be coming down. However, the percentages are going up across the board. How do you explain that?

More and more women are choosing to be single. When you add that to the number of women who want to marry but can’t find a suitable mate, it will cause those numbers to continue to rise. Just because a woman isn’t married or chooses not to marry doesn’t mean that they can’t have children. If the woman is supporting herself or has a support system available to assist her, who are we to stand in judgement of someone wanting to be a mother?

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who dat – “No I have” – oh, you mean your reason that you’ve never heard of anyone using PP for their health services??? that “reason” – which has since been debunked by more than just me …

I don’t boast about intelligence … just about being informed of the facts – you seem to boast about the opposite (10-year-olds!! they woo them!!!) while not presenting any documentation to back up your assertions …

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Southern Comfort, you explain it now perfectly. Gosh, it is right before your eyes. Read the question that you asked me and then read your response. If you still have problems, then I will explain.

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“that “reason” – which has since been debunked by more than just me … ”

Matilda counts?

“I don’t boast about intelligence … just about being informed of the facts – you seem to boast about the opposite (10-year-olds!! they woo them!!!) while not presenting any documentation to back up your assertions …”

You don’t?????? Oh, well I must have misread your “i’m more intelligent than you are” statement. You’ve also yet to provide any facts.

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it has become the norm for women to have babies out of wedlock in the black community.

That is contingent upon the educational level of a community along with the availability of suitable mates!! As I stated, in the welfare community, the rules made it easier to gain support when the male unit in removed from the family environment; the higher the education level, the lower the out-of-wedlock birth rate.

SoCo is on point, in that the phenomenon of single women parentage is across the spectrum due the the lack of suitable mates. In the black neighborhood, that is exacerbated by laws which target young black men, taking them out of the available pool for marriage, higher unemployment rate, and lack of dicersified education.

The issues are numerous; the solutions are likewise!!

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HDB, explain this to me….I know two very succesful black women at the a relatively high level employed with the Federal Government. They make great money. Why do they tell me that people hate them and call them Uncle Tom when they go home to visit? Both have children out of wedlock by the way.

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“Well, Gale, you called me Whi Dat so how was I supposed to respond?”

“GLE” would be the technically correct response.

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Sorry, is should have said employed at a relatively high level. That makes more sense.

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“If the woman is supporting herself or has a support system available to assist her, who are we to stand in judgement of someone wanting to be a mother?”

All moral judgments aside, statistics show that a child raised in a two-parent home has a better life growing up and a better chance at success. There are exceptions, of course, before Matilda jumps in, but as a rule, two-parent is better.

“We never completely integrated as a society. That’s fairly evident by this legislation as well as this thread today.”

Seems like you, me, and HDB are the only ones staying on topic and discussing what I consider to be a serious problem. Is that what you mean?

“If you have TV1, they have a series that comes on Monday nights that’s like behind the music. I got the chance to see their piece on Rose Royce and part of one they did on Sylvester. It comes on at 9pm.”

I’ll look for that, SC.

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Who Dat, upon what do you think PP based that report? I’m thinking they based it on decades of treating women and girls for unplanned pregnancy and STDs, who had inadequate education about their bodies and how to care for them. I’m thinking they determined the age that girls should begin learning about their bodies from actually learning about and WORKING with the young people in the communities where they are most at risk. Were you thinking their recommendations came from another source?

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Matilda, why did those children inadequate education?

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BMDPD

According to my birth certificate, I’m listed as Negro. I usually just say I’m American.

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“Oh, well I must have misread your “i’m more intelligent than you are” statement”

oh, huzzah. do. please tell me where I’ve said that. all I’ve said is that I’m informed of the facts where you seem to prefer the hysteria of the sidewalk screamers.

“Matilda counts?”

go back a page and look for the links to the PP annual reports

as for your 10:36 – this is “wooing”??? advocacy for comprehensive sex ed is ” woo(ing) 10 year old girls into killing their babies BEFORE they even have sex for the first time”??? talk about a stretch.

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Dogone the other part of your 10:21

“And here’s something that I always keep in mind when the subject of abortions comes up: many years ago someone (can’t remember who anymore) said that eventually abortions themselves would lead to fewer abortions…because children who are wanted are much more likely to want their own children.”

It is quite true that the number and ratios of abortions to live births has declined and possible that your statement above could have an impact. I still think over 800,000 a year is an abysmal stat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States

I will also say that history is replete with examples of people rising above miserable childhoods to succeed….even should if that be their lot I think they should get the chance. I know I would have wanted it.

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“’m thinking they determined the age that girls should begin learning about their bodies from actually learning about and WORKING with the young people in the communities where they are most at risk.”

Nothing like keeping the black folk down, eh! Basically you’re saying black people are too stupid to make their way through life without the help of good ole government. Well, looks like government has turned the black community into a zombie caste system.

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Normal

If it weren’t for skilled defense lawyers, I would not have changed it. However, when lawyers are doing anything and everything to get their defendents off, including impugning the character of law enforcement officers, I have to make myself as small a target as possible.

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Southern Comfort, could you answer my question to HDB then? Also, there are exceptions to every rule. Please don’t get me wrong. I am stating that in a majority, but not all cases the lack of a strong father/father-figure will lead to more problems for a child.

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“all I’ve said is that I’m informed of the facts where you seem to prefer the hysteria of the sidewalk screamers.”

But you never presented any facts. Only your own biased “smarter than thou” opinions.

“go back a page and look for the links to the PP annual reports ”

You mean the outdated 3 year old annual reports?

“advocacy for comprehensive sex ed is ” woo(ing) 10 year old girls into killing their babies BEFORE they even have sex for the first time”??? talk about a stretch.”

No not really, especially since I’ve posted a full report on how PP woos little girls.

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going broke – “Would you agree that some of the largest issues in South Africa are starvation and hunger?”

just to clarify – are you talking about south africa, the country – or sub-saharan africa, the continent?

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Personally, I like the bill–why is there any problem with going after coercion–some estimate as many as 45% of abortions are coerced by boyfriend, husband, parent, or pimp. What does “choice” mean if abortions are coerced???

And sex-selection? Racially discriminatory? Many of those are tied up in coercion too. If you protect female and minority rights in the workplace, how bout in the womb?

What really needs to change is our culture’s view of the birthmother’s decision to choose adoption. It is estimated that there are only 6800 non-familial adoptions per year, over 10 million families who would consider adoption, hundreds of thousands of waiting families, and 1.3 million abortions per year. Every child is a wanted child, but is not available because of abortion and single parenting.

Girls/women who choose adoption for their babies are loving, sacrificial, realistic, mature individuals who focus on what is best for their baby and for themselves. I applaud them! But they are too rare, partly because it does not appear to be a viable choice for them–our society needs to support that choice wholeheartedly, but without coercion either.

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Who Dat

“Call me old fashioned, but I think it’s the PARENTS job to educate their OWN children about sex education.”

In your perfect world where all parents are great and responsible that works wonderfully, however in the real world it does not happen that way.

“By the way, no one can argue that abstinence doesn’t work”

If you adhere to abstinence it works, problem is no one can just say no forever (even Republicans). If you think they can you either don’t remember what youth was like or you have a bigger problem.

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As far as them being referred to as an Uncle Tom, it either means that:

a) Those throwing the insults are insecure of themselves and envious because they’re still living at home and didn’t venture out and make something of themselves.

or
b) They have no idea of what the slur “Uncle Tom” actually means and are just showing their education level or lack thereof.

HDB also states a very valid point about the perceived role of women in the Black community. The man is supposed to be the main bread winner and primary financial supporter. The woman’s primary role is to be a supporting spouse and good mother. If a woman chooses or has a good career and is single, many believe that they have intentionally decided against being a spouse or mother to advance their career. That is an unwritten no-no in our community.

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Well tell our kids one thing and let them watch trash that promotes another. No wonder they make mistakes.

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“and all man too. Why don’t I come up and see you sometime? Yum.”

Are you sure, Mae? Rumor is that bulge in his pants is just his gun……

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“In your perfect world where all parents are great and responsible that works wonderfully, however in the real world it does not happen that way.”

That’s because people make too many stupid decisions. Divorce, out of wedlock births etc… Not my problem.

“If you adhere to abstinence it works, problem is no one can just say no forever (even Republicans).”

Since when was abstinence a Republican issue? No one ever said anything about saying no forever.

“If you think they can you either don’t remember what youth was like or you have a bigger problem.”

Been married for a long time now. Didn’t have sex before marriage.

Let the mocking begin.

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Adultery is glamorized.

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“oh, really??? what time was that post??? and where was the link substantiating??? cuz it sure as heck isn’t the sex ed post from Fox”

10:36 am.

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Doing what feels good is glamorized.

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Sleeping around with who you want when you want is glamorized. Then we wonder why our kids do it!

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BMDPD

I disagree with that, in fact, I believe single mothers are ostracized by society. Most of the tv shows show children in two-parent homes as does movies. Single mothers are more likely to be referred to as welfare mothers as opposed to being referred to as just mothers. But, that’s the good thing about living in America, we’re both free to express our opinions.

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Who dat?

March 30th, 2010
10:43 am
“Were you thinking their recommendations came from another source?”

Call me old fashioned, but I think it’s the PARENTS job to educate their OWN children about sex education. By the way, no one can argue that abstinence doesn’t work.

Two points:
1) Not all parents are comfortable enough to explain sexual functions to children…and the preventative measures therein. I was blessed to have a BIOLOGY teacher as a parent…and was given the full explanation when I was 8!!

2) Abstinence education doesn’t completely work…for it has been shown that those who were primarily taught abstinence WITHOUT comprehensive sex education were just as likely to get pregnant as those who had NO sex education at all.

@ Who dat: Nothing like keeping the black folk down, eh! Basically you’re saying black people are too stupid to make their way through life without the help of good ole government. Well, looks like government has turned the black community into a zombie caste system.

Not entirely the case; note what I’d said previously about welfare rules and the removal of the male unit!! There are those who udes the system as intended and removed themselves AND their families from dependence!! Those stories are RARELY heard….but those that are persistently heard are those who have been dependent for generations!! What ISN’T truly shown, though, is the preponderance of white families on generational dependence in Appalachia! That, too, is a issue here!!

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Birds of a feather flock together! No matter how much education or whatever that still applies. Jay is talking about blacks so this must be about Racism. I thought Cynthia had that role in ajc. Just remember is you do not put minorities on top–then you are a RACIST.
Well here it comes! The young black females want to get pregant and have a babies for the state and federal benefits involved. A young 16yr old can become independent with all the handouts she will receive.
Where is the dad? His is most likely being sympathetic and looking for another score.

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who – 10:56 – like I said – you call this “wooing”??? they’re advocating for comprehensive sex ed.

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“Not all parents are comfortable enough to explain sexual functions to children…and the preventative measures therein.”

Then it’s their own fault.

“Abstinence education doesn’t completely work”

Works every time. Don;t have sex, don’t get std’s or end up pregnant.

“What ISN’T truly shown, though, is the preponderance of white families on generational dependence in Appalachia! That, too, is a issue here!!”

Yeah, but Appalachia isn’t on every street corner in every American city now is it.

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“they’re advocating for comprehensive sex ed.”

To 10 year olds who are still playing with barbie dolls.

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Oh, folks, Jay hooks you every time. He doesn’t care about this bill in Georiga ligislature. He wants you to “carry on” about abortions in GEORGIA where Republicans are predominate. Anything to make GEORGIA look bad. Be it the governor or the legislature or anything from GEORGIA, he throws it in your face like it is mud. GEORGIA is not liberal so Bookman “endures” it. And you bloggers jump right on it like Pavlov’s dogs.

Georgia legislators saw the word “genocide” and said no way we are letting that happen. So those mean ol’ men/women of GEORGIA are evil!! Yes sir & mam, EVIL says Bookman or (anti-black conspiracy plot)..

Oh well, I believe there is already a law on the books called Roe vs Wade which is a federal law. Hash it out, folks. Set those evil old Georgia crackers straight. Bookman knows all. Doncha know? All Republicans are E V I L, ’specially in GEORGIA.

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Hmmmm… meanwhile we have real issues to confront, not imagined ones…

This one’s a doozy:

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2010/03/30/dead-marines-dad-ordered-to-pay-protesters-legal-fees/?cxntfid=blogs_political_insider_jim_galloway

Here’s how to help:

http://www.matthewsnyder.org/help.html

Whether you lean right or left, hasn’t this soldier’s father endured enough? First from the nut sacks that showed up to protest at his son’s funeral then at the hands of a judge?

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How humane the Georgia Republicans are. They are interested in protecting some of us from being killed prior to being born. Ironically, once born, we are subjected to their racism, their unjust wars, and their poisoning of the enviornment. They are “Pro-life” as long as it includes the uborn only and scores political points.

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Who dat,

“Then it’s their own fault.”
I’m glad you think that. I’m also sure you also don’t mind your taxes going up to pay for the baby’s welfare checks. Unfortunately it may be their fault, but it quickly becomes our problem.

“Works every time. Don;t have sex, don’t get std’s or end up pregnant.”
Tell that to Bristol Palin. Absinence may work, but the comment is referring to abstinence EDUCATION which almost never works. There are some exceptions, but for the most part the people who stay abstinant through college years are the ones that can’t get laid. Oh and if you’re offended by that, you’re the one I’m talking about.

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Who,

I think we found the problem!

“That’s because people make too many stupid decisions. Divorce, out of wedlock births etc… Not my problem.”

If it is “not your problem” then you are just pontificating. When you are ready to be part of the solution rather than part of the noise level you might get taken a bit more seriously.

As for the sex before marriage issue congratulations!

NEWS FLASH you don’t get to set the rules for everyone just yourself.

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“even should if that be their lot I think they should get the chance.”

I would agree if the only abortions that ever occured were mankind intiated…but until spontaneous abortions cease entirely, I see no difference between one kind of abortion and another.

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Gotta love the liberal thinking..
First you have.. Rancher pays damages to illegal immigrants captured on his land. – He points a gun and keeps them held until border patrol arrives.. gets sued by the illegal immigrants.

Second you have.. Different rancher.. Illegal Immigrant Suspected in Murder of Arizona Rancher – so.. explain to me about the gun issue at the border again?

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Who Dat.. its all good.. didn’t you know that ALL liberals and Obama think that America stinks and we should God d*mn America?

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Who dat: It’s not TOTALLY a parent’s fault if they CAN’T (notice the meaning…rather than DON’T) teach sexual functions. Many that don’t know the REALITY of sex got their education from the streets…and that is passed to their children…and the domino effect commences. In order for some children to get the comprehensive sex education that is not given at home, it is done in the schools….for some, in Biology classes….in others, a full Sex Education Curriculum.

I disagree that Appalachia ISN’T on every street corner; generational dependence does not care where it is….just THAT it is!! What is evident in Atlanta, LA, DC…..is also evident in the hills of KY, TN, WVA…… Where it’s cocaine and weed in the cities, it’s meth in the hills. The problems are similar AND different…but moreso similar!!

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who – “To 10 year olds who are still playing with barbie dolls”

yep – and those 10-year olds aren’t far from starting to develop and menstruate. those 10-year olds are exposed to song lyrics, TV shows, magazines and older kids that encourage them to be more sexual before they even know what that means. making sure they understand what the heck they’re getting into – and encouraging them to keep themselves SAFE – is a GOOD THING. it’s not “wooing” – it’s telling all young people to take responsibility, to know the consequences of their actions.

age-appropriate sex ed

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“Shouldn’t they have been all adopted by now?”

Once they get past the “cute baby” stage it gets harder and harder for them to get adopted. If they aren’t conventionally attractive to look at, or are handicapped or disfigured…it’s much, much harder.

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“It’s all whiteys fault.”

good gravy, if that’s true, I’m in a world of trouble … you don’t get much pastier than me …

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Dogone

“Maybe, but that situation is a bit too much like “adoptable” dogs…puppies are easy to place, but the older ones are not.”

Agreed that is an issue that needs better solutions. I bet if you took a poll of those kids they would still choose to have been born.

“And there’s still a 9 month gap between conception and birth. Are those “willing adopters” willing to pay BEFORE the baby is born to help ensure that it IS born?”

Many are and there should most certainly be health care available if not. Maybe we made some steps in the right direction there last week

“ And, regardless, it’s still the pregnant woman’s choice.”

That is the real issue, should it be hers alone or should the unborn child have rights that are protected? Thorny issue that will take a long time to solve, in the meantime it would be best to try and minimize the cases through education and support.

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“Remember the five rules of dodge ball, who dat – dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iXP9yoc4VY

Any other questions?

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RJ – “Tell that to Bristol Palin”

well, evidently the rule is: if you’re quoted on CNN, whatever you say doesn’t count since their ratings are low.

or something like that.

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SoCo.. Yes.. but for a VERY short time and not as a private citizen.

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USinUK

Ever see that Jonas Brothers episode of South Park. Sums up that problem pretty well. Subliminal sexual messages that Miley and Britney send out to kids.

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who dat – 11:20 – you got that right. (rode the train this morning sitting next to my husband and across from 2 men as white as we both are … I swear, if we wore shorts and a tank top and you dropped us in the Afghan desert in front of the Taliban on a bright sunny day, the reflection off our pasty skin would permanently blind them … )

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BTW, USinUK, you never “revealed” (pun intended) what your beach attire was when you snagged your Brit hubby down in SoBe.

I guess what happens in SoBe STAYS in SoBe…..

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who dat – 11:23 – can’t stand South Park … like Jonas Brothers / Miley / Britney even less … but totally agree with you about the “stealth message”

jdw – 11:22 – forecasters are saying it’s going to be a record-breaking summer this year … which a nice thought except most houses don’t have A/C since we don’t need it.

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“ALL liberals do NOT hate America!!”

Let me revise that statement. All LEFTEST hate America. The Sean Penns, Michael Moores etc.. I’ll even throw in a Rahm Emanuel and a Noam Chomsky as extra bonuses.

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Families are traveling to Ethiopia, China, Guatemala, etc. to adopt orphans, so it isn’t a racial issue, except that African American and many Hispanic women do not choose to entrust their babies to non-family members in adoption. They have a strong bias for keeping the baby in the birth family.

This was compounded by African American social workers who fought the placement of black children with Caucasian parents. That has relaxed hugely, especially for placements out of foster care.

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There should be a program called “The Blind Side Program” where black kids get adopted by super rich Taco Bell owning white parents who then turn the black kids into powerhouse defensive linemen.

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Strange that anti-abortion Bible thumpers are pro-Israel, where the firstborn son is murdered by the father.

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Who dat?

March 30th, 2010
11:19 am
“It’s not TOTALLY a parent’s fault if they CAN’T (notice the meaning…rather than DON’T) teach sexual functions.”

Are these supposed parents deaf and blind? Of course if their parents are Helen Keller and Ray Charles sure, if not………

“for some, in Biology classes….in others, a full Sex Education Curriculum.”

I learned Biology in Biology class. Not sex ed. I learned how to dissect frogs and pigs, not how to put on a condom. Something must have been seriously wrong in your biology class.

“I disagree that Appalachia ISN’T on every street corner; generational dependence does not care where it is….just THAT it is!!”

Not sure about you, but I don’t see Cletus and Bobbie Jean sitting in NY or Chicago breeding like rabbits.

“Where it’s cocaine and weed in the cities, it’s meth in the hills.”

Not sure what that has to do with inbreeding.

“The problems are similar AND different…but moreso similar!!”

not so.

Let’s address this one-by-one:

1) “It’s not TOTALLY a parent’s fault if they CAN’T (notice the meaning…rather than DON’T) teach sexual functions.”
As I stated, the only sex education some parents receive is from the streets; for some, it was evident on the farm…but in the cities, that evidence is not available. Because the parent wasn’t given the knowledge, the child receives that same incorrect knowledge..and the domino effect continues.

2) for some, in Biology classes….in others, a full Sex Education Curriculum.”
Biology classes also included ASEXUAL and SEXUAL reproduction; that’s the beginning of sex education for some. The aspect of HUMAN sexual reproduction is begun in Biology…and continued in Sex Education. As I stated, I was blessed to have a BIOLOGY teacher as a parent!!

3) Not sure about you, but I don’t see Cletus and Bobbie Jean sitting in NY or Chicago breeding like rabbits.

Just because you don’t see it…doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. The circumstances ARE similar!

4) Where it’s cocaine and weed in the cities, it’s meth in the hills.”
Not sure what that has to do with inbreeding.
“The problems are similar AND different…but moreso similar!!”
not so.

These, I’m combining. Drug abuse is a large cause in the unmarried birth rate; many unwanted pregnancies occur due to drug usage and unprotected sex. As it is with cocaine and weed in the cities, it’s meth in the farmlands. Note the explosion of meth labs in rural America. THAT’s where the similarities exist!!

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Just once I would like to see an affluent family of Blacks adopt a homeless white kid and that become a big movie.

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Justice for Juan

**Strange that anti-abortion Bible thumpers are pro-Israel, where the firstborn son is murdered by the father.**

So that happens in Israel? Really. The Israel that is on this planet? Not the Martian Israel.

I think you have your planets confused. You must have strayed for the National Socialist Workers Party Planet.

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SoCo,

Seems to me the GEORGIA legislature saw the statics indicating that more black women than white were having abortions. Then came the accusation that this statistic showed genocide of blacks when there is already a law on the books which says that WOMEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE ABORTION. If more black women choose to have abortions, that is their right. Is that prejudice to state that?

Seems to me the GEORGIA legislature was trying to prove that they did not allow genocide in any form in GEORGIA. I think the liegialture did not need to go that far. But I imagine if you brought up Jewish abortions in Germany the citizens there would make an overall effort to show that they do not tolerate genocide for Jews.. .There is no genocide in Georgia, only the accusation.

Another thing..I do not think that everything done in GEORGIA is evil! Bookman subtly tries in every way he can to make our conservative state look bad. It is fairly easy with slanted journalism because you can find human mistakes in every population and capitalize on it..

But Bookman IS doing his job. He makes Democrats look good and Republicans look bad. That is what he was hired to do and that is what he does. But do keep that in mind when you read his “journalism”.

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NIF

I’m waiting on that movie too. Hell, I’d just like to see an affluent Black family that isn’t affluent because of criminal enterprise.

UnU

So that’s your foot I’m always feeling on my neck holding me down…

Curseeeessss!!!

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“yep. I’m the (wo)man. you know – the one that’s keeping you down.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2lNf2WHxeI

Mary wants to be a superwoman
And try to boss the bull around

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FultonRighty

March 30th, 2010
11:28 am
Families are traveling to Ethiopia, China, Guatemala, etc. to adopt orphans, so it isn’t a racial issue, except that African American and many Hispanic women do not choose to entrust their babies to non-family members in adoption. They have a strong bias for keeping the baby in the birth family.

This was compounded by African American social workers who fought the placement of black children with Caucasian parents. That has relaxed hugely, especially for placements out of foster care.

To a point, you’re right…but what is also part of this is the FEAR that a child raised by out-of culture parents would NOT be able to teach the child about ITS culture…and totally submerge the child into another culture!! Caucasian parents can not TOTALLY (note the emphasis) teach a non-white child about that particular culture…and that child suffers culture SHOCK when placed in situations outside of the home that were not addressed!!

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Dusty

I would be willing to bet that the Republicans were approached by Black leaders to pass this. It is common knowledge in the Black Communities (Yes, inaccurate, but common) so this was obviously a straw in somebody’s hat.

But of course since the Republicans have the majority, it’s their fault.

Someday, the democrats will hold their own leaders to task when they have a majority.

Well, no, not someday. I think the term is never.

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“should it be hers alone or should the unborn child have rights that are protected? Thorny issue that will take a long time to solve,”

It’s not thorny to me. No, the foetus does not have rights that need to be protected. As long as it is completely, and totally dependent on the woman it is not a separate being. It is a part of her body, and it’s her choice.

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Bruno…I think he meant a black AMERICAN family!! The Cosbys were only on TV!!

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“Just once I would like to see an affluent family of Blacks adopt a homeless white kid and that become a big movie.”

The Jerk with Steve Martin.

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HDB

I was trying to remember any in movies at all. The only time you see any semblance of affluence is from movies made for and produced by blacks. I was trying to remember familes from any major movies from the major production companies.

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I don’t think the black family in The Jerk was affluent.

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SoCo…I remember when it WAS stigmatized for a black woman to have a child out-of-wedlock!! Wasn’t that long ago!! Like I said before….welfare rules changing allowing the MALE to be taken out of the home accelerated the rate of single parenthood!! As you know, most black parents would raise the grandchild and assist the daughter with education. Now, education and SUCCESS AREN’T desired as it is easier for some to receive assistance!!

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Swampy,

“Just once I would like to see an affluent family of Blacks adopt a homeless white kid and that become a big movie”

In Newsweek just for you!

http://www.newsweek.com/id/194886

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I don’t know if these black folks come close to qualifying as “affluent” but it’s an interesting story, nevertheless.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/194886

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This show brings back fond memories of a rich white guy who adopted his housekeepers boys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQMfN0UFqms&feature=related

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You don’t need a movie.. look at real life.. and the people we idolize.. every week you read about some rap person getting shot.. getting arrested.. etc.. that cannot help..

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NIF – Understanding one’s heritage adds to one’s personal self-worth! Knowing where you come from motivates one towards making things better!! That’s what knowing about my heritage did for me…and others like me!! It also allowed me to see the best AND worst of ALL cultures…and I learned how to embrace the best…and avoid the worst!!
Assimilation into a society is also made easier by knowing where you started from!! Another reason that Black History Month is SORELY needed!!

FultonRighty: no argument with me on that point!!

SoCo: The black family in ‘The Jerk” was NOT affluent….and only through black production companies will you see films with affluent black families. Major production companies don’t see the value in portraying black people as successful…only in the criminal or comedic element!!

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“The stigma is there for a reason. Children from single-parent homes are at a disadvantage: ”

That is not a “stigma” – a stigma, in this context, is nothing more than a form of bigotry…based on the viewers perception of the Mother’s status as unwed. In other words, it is placing the blame on the child for something the Mother did.

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“Another reason that Black History Month is SORELY needed!!”

Yeah, we need an entire year of black history month instead of the 6 months dedicated to it. We also need more black only churches, black only tv shows, black only movies, black only schools, black only food, black only clothing stores and black only hair salons. Oh, and we also need black only car companies now that Hummer has been discontinued.

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Beaves

“ the GA. legislature is dimacrat, just because we have a GOP governor does not mean local government is republican. Please go back to school and get an education…”

OMG thank you for pointing that out! All this time I have been laboring under the delusion that the Georgia Legislature has a large Republican majority. I think it has something to do with the fact that the Senate has 34 Republicans vs 22 Democrats and the House has 101 Republicans vs 79 Democrats.

But I see now that that was a well disguised plot by those damnable dimacrat’s to bring dishonor to our glorious Republication Governor and support that damn socialist in White House.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

For setting the record straight. Please do continue to share your keen insight with those of us that so need perspective.

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SoCo,

As much as I would advocate for married parents for happy children, I still believe that we have a law that gives women of any skin color the right to decide about abortions. As long as that is available, I do not believe that marriage will stop abortions. It might lower the rate but not make it disappear.

You mentioned crack cocaine being introduced to the black community. Was it not introduced to anyone who would buy it? I can’t quite see that as genocide for the black community. It worked against all people who used it.

Yep, there will always be prujudice. It bounces back and forth between those who give it and those who receive it. Race, religion, nationality, habits…still hot items for prejudice.

Fortunately we live in America and have ethical people like you protecting us even if we get some things wrong and mess around trying to fix ‘em.

Gotta run. Always a pleasure to exchange ideas with you.

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can’t argue with Jay here…and that never happens. Amazing how the general assembly lets viable bills die and gets thus stuff thru.

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I am sad for so many. I am definitely not without sin, but we see the ramifications for disobeying the 10 commandments and glorifying those who do!

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Matilda, there are exceptions. So you are one. I don’t judge you.

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On a side note Deklab county school board approves laying off 430 employees today. Obamanomics at work. You asked for change. You got it! Change you can believe in!

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Lunacy? I’m not so sure… I went to Alaska last year, and spotted quite a few Planned Parenthood posters. Why the heck were most of the pictures of BLACK PEOPLE in the middle of almost lily-white Alaska?? Kind of put me on the spot, since I was one of only two blacks in the district — the friend I was with was the other one.

Have you guys looked at Margaret Sanger’s writings? She definitely wouldn’t be showing up for Hosea Feed the Homeless. And it explains why Hitler liked her writings so much.

(Check your history if you think I’m making it up…)

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Sanger wrote to Clarence Gamble heir to the Proctor and Gamble fortune and an avoid member of the Eugenics Society that, ” We do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro…” Sanger was also a member of the American Eugenics Society and Gamble funded her projects. Gamble also funded the North Carolina Eugenics Society through his Human Betterment Foundation ( Sounds so sweet, doesn’t it?) – According to recent newspaper reports on the NC Eugenics Society, in the 1930s and ’40s, African-Americans represented 23 percent of North Carolina sterilizations. That grew to 59 percent between 1958 and 1960 and finally to 64 percent between 1964 and 1966. So , we see that Sanger’s words to Gamble who funded that Eugenics Board came true. You can listen to the testimony of one of the African American Victims of that eugenics board in the film: Maafa21. You will also see proof that Planned Parenthood took and gave referrals to state eugenics boards and that the Arkansas Eugenics Society under the leadership of Hilda Cornish, was later renamed: Planned Parenthood under the same woman: Hilda Cornish. Is this just coincidence? Get Maafa21 for more of these “Coincidences” – http://www.maafa21.com

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And if you don’t believe this, Sanger has a book and even used the Negro preacher to promote abortion, like a poster said earlier, it started in Harlem, and planned parenthood even gave MLK an award.

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I don’t think there is any question that white liberals have the mindset that the black population needs to be controlled and they view abortion as a tool for that. White liberals are very paternalistic in their thinking. They believe that black people can’t think for themselves, can’t raise their kids to not be criminals or baby factories and so white liberals have to take the initiative and keep the masses of poor blacks under some kind of control such as population control.

Otherwise they feel that too many young blacks means a skyrocketing crime rate and a tremendous burden on the social services system. Too many of them means too much of an economic strain on the welfare system. Its a sick way of thinking but it seems pretty obvious to me that this is the way a lot of these white, elite liberals tend to think.

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Jeepers, this isn’t about what Y’ALL think for feel! And it’s not about anyone’s agenda or historical conspiracies. It’s about women, as individuals, having (a) determination over their own bodies and destinies, and (b) access to health care — preventive and otherwise. Some feel that women should be empowered by these, and some, like the Ga. Senate, think women should not. A woman in trouble, regardless of her color or background, really does not give a damn what you think. She has something to deal with, and it’s her business. Y’all need to get a friggin’ life of your own.

Atlantajan, excellent point!

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Once again our fearless leaders do us proud. That party of folks who want the government to stay out of our lives just can’t leave women’s bodies alone. No one is forced to get an abortion; no one is pro abortion. There are pro choice people and pro life people. Each should abide by their own belief and let the other alone. Men especially should leave women alone to make their own physical choices. The Republicans have raised awareness of their institutional racism in their treatment of our biracial president’s office. How funny that they call pro choice legislation racist!

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cmac,

And if you want to criticize a woman for being a murderer, it apparantly shouldn’t matter if you can spell.

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The bottom line it is always issue to demonize any indigenous peoples on this planet no matter where the location the corporations make money off it the government thrives off it and stupid public just absorbs it. This will never be considered a major story in the media for the obvious reason.

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The black population is increasing, so how are blacks “endangered”?

The white population, however, is decreasing, so where are the cries of “whites are an endangered species”?

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More evidence that whites care more for blacks than blacks do.

Many whites actually think that more non-whites is a good thing. White couples limit their family size, and adopt non-whites, while other groups go about happily increasing their numbers. Absolutely insane.

Truth be told, whites are the least “racist” people on the face of the earth. For their sakes, I hope they get a lot more “racist,” and soon.

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I am glad to see Georgia getting on board with our “program.”

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I would like to know if my black sisters and brothers, are backing this type of campaign.I would like for you to know this is just another gop pu.pu

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“It has been pointed out repeatedly that doctors would never force a woman to have an abortion.” – Gale (Mar 30, 7:51)

They most certainly have and will. Just last year, Detroit abortionist Alberto Hodari was exposed for having covered up the sexual abuse of Jennifer McCoy and used threats and physical force to compel her to submit to an abortion. Caitlin Bruce was similarly brutalized. Hodari and his assistant held Caitlin Bruce down and covered her mouth to conceal her screams as they carried out an abortion on her she didn’t want. She sued.

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A particularly brutal case involved abortionist William Egherman, who physically forced a woman to have an abortion and nearly killed her in his haste. He ripped out a piece of her bowel, then as she screamed and bled profusely ordered the ambulance to proceed slowly without lights or sirens, to avoid alarming the other women at his facility “Aware Women’s Center.”

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Aaarrgh! Why did I move to THIS state?! I can’t believe how BACKWARDS politicians/ppl are in this state.

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