Ga. Senate endorses bizarre anti-black conspiracy plot
Last week, the Georgia Senate gave sanction to a bizarre, destructive and racially condescending conspiracy theory. By a 33-14 vote, it approved a bill that purports to outlaw the attempted genocide of black Americans through abortion.
Under the bill’s language, a health care provider could be convicted of a felony and sentenced to up to 10 years in prison for performing an abortion “with the intent to prevent an unborn child from being born based upon the race, color, or gender of the unborn child or the race or color of either parent of that unborn child.”
The bill is inspired by a claim that abortion providers are engaged in a conspiracy to reduce the number of black children born in this country. As Georgia Right to Life has argued in billboards and other outlets, “black children are an endangered species” that need the protection of law against a campaign to eradicate them.
As proof of that campaign’s existence, Georgia Right to Life cites the fact that more than twice as many black women sought abortions in Georgia in 2008 as did white women, even though the state’s population is just 30 percent black.
They do not mention, however, that black women in Georgia also have a pregnancy rate almost twice as high as white women, according to statistics compiled by the Guttmacher Institute. Nor do they point out that the black birth rate in Georgia is about 60 percent higher than for white women.
Those numbers are hardly surprising. The high rate of out-of-wedlock births among black American teenagers represents a continuing cultural, social and economic challenge. Furthermore, liberals and conservatives alike can agree that abortion is not an acceptable solution to that problem.
The best approach is suggested by the fact that in societies around the world, pregnancy rates fall as levels of education and affluence in a community increase.
Until approval of SB 529, the dumbest legislation to pass the House or Senate this year had been a bill to outlaw forced implantation of microchips in human beings, which also passed the Senate. However, while it may rival the genocide-by-abortion bill in terms of weirdness, the microchip bill was at least largely harmless.
The abortion bill, on the other hand, puts the state Senate on record as endorsing the claim that black Americans are being targeted for elimination by health care providers. That’s absurd and flat-out wrong.
Debate over the measure reflected that absurdity. One Republican senator said it was a good thing that Barack Obama’s white mother didn’t choose to abort her pregnancy to avoid the shame of giving birth to a black baby. Sen. Tommie Williams (R-Lyons) argued that without the bill’s provisions criminalizing “coerced abortions,” we could find ourselves following the path of China, where abortions are mandated by government.
Sen. Vincent Fort, an Atlanta Democrat, detected “a whiff of mendacity if not hypocrisy” in conservative concern for black Georgians. Perhaps the most telling observation came from Sen. Hardie Davis, a black pro-life Democrat from Augusta.
“Some things,” he said, “cannot be legislated.”
(Davis was among nine senators who did not cast a vote on the final measure.)
There was a time in recent memory when the Senate was considered the more sane of the two chambers. Strange legislation usually emanated from the House and was allowed to die untouched in the more sober-minded Senate. That has clearly changed.
This year, versions of both the microchip and genocide-by-abortions bills were introduced in the House as well as Senate, but House leadership was wise enough to allow both measures to fade away unnoticed.
In the Senate, lunacy reigns.
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Pogo
March 30th, 2010
10:19 am
Hmmm. Don’t I remember something from Obama about eliminating earmarks?
Corruption is running rampant in Washington.
http://www.foxnews.com/
HDB
March 30th, 2010
10:19 am
Bruno& SoCo…..
The issue is a bit complicated when talking about the black birth rate…and education. Some people blame integration and the passage of Civil Rights ligislation. What really exacerbated the increased black birth rate was the passage of welfare rules that made it easier for a family to go on welfare WITHOUT the male unit of the family being considered in the mix!! When welfare rules were changed forcing the male out of the home, that created a dependent classm of women who saw the government as a meal ticket rather than the bridge that welfare was originally intended to be. To change that paradigm, the welfare rules need to be changed to INCLUDE the male unit in the family….and support be contingent upon the male’s influence in the family unit…i.e., education and job search!!
GoingBroke
March 30th, 2010
10:19 am
USinUK
March 30th, 2010
10:14 am
“of course not every single case is due to rape, however estimate of 50% are: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/264771”
You would think the UN would do something about that.. but nah.. out of site.. out of mind..
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:20 am
“awwwwww … diddums was sad so started throwing his toys out of his pram because someone called you on the “weirdest post” comment … I guess I was being generous when I compared you to an 8-year old …”
It was a weird post. It was not an insult to you. I just found it odd. You then stated that I was not smart enough to comprehend your profound statement.
Matilda
March 30th, 2010
10:20 am
Bizzarro time on the blog today!!
Why do people (who claim) to have their own families want to get all up on the personal business of women who are not their wives or daughters? Why do people who claim an aversion to marriage and kids GIVE A RAT’S FUZZY or assert an opinion about the ills of other people’s marital or parenting choices? Why do people who’ve obviously never been raped nor had seed forced upon them claim to be experts on consent? Why do people so deeply entrenched in their own subculture, to the extent that only THEIR way of thinking is acceptable, claim to understand violence and abuses in a culture thousands of miles away?
Must be Spring Fever!!
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:20 am
Blah, Blah, Blah. The breakdown in the structure of the FAMILY is the cause for all of this. Planned Parenhood cannot do what a strong father can. It is proven that girls with a strong father figure are less likely to get pregnant out of wedlock. However, it has become the norm for women to have babies out of wedlock in the black community. Heck, I have know several throughout my military career who have 3 or 4 kids from different dads. What do you think their children are going to do?
USinUK
March 30th, 2010
10:21 am
Bruno – “I’m still trying to find a video store since the local shop was closed down by the state”
dammit. screen cleaner, please.
amazon it – it’s worth the purchase. I promise.
by “Sunday Morning”, I take it you’re not referring to the old Charles Kurault show …
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:21 am
“wow. those voices in your head are working overtime today …
up. your. dosage.”
Again, the insults. Do you even realize how much gasoline you pour on the fire?
Doggone/GA
March 30th, 2010
10:21 am
“However, we should be able to educate our people that abortion should not be considered as an option except in the most dire of circumstances.”
Generally, I wouldn’t argue with what you said…but on this one, there’s the issue of what’s “dire” about someone’s circumstancese. Unless, we, as a society, are willing to cough up the funds to help raise a child to maturity…when the Mother’s circumstances make it seem impossible to HER, we have no right to interfere in her decision.
And here’s something that I always keep in mind when the subject of abortions comes up: many years ago someone (can’t remember who anymore) said that eventually abortions themselves would lead to fewer abortions…because children who are wanted are much more likely to want their own children.
USinUK
March 30th, 2010
10:22 am
who dat – “It was a weird post” – and, despite being questioned by 2 people, you still haven’t said how posting the facts about why PP locates where it does is “weird”.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:23 am
“despite being questioned by 2 people, you still haven’t said how posting the facts about why PP locates where it does is “weird”.”
No I have, you just missed it while boasting about how intelligent you are.
USinUK
March 30th, 2010
10:24 am
going broke – 10:19 – um. what exactly is the UN supposed to do? S Africa isn’t a war zone. it’s not a refugee zone. so, what do you propose they do???
GoingBroke
March 30th, 2010
10:26 am
Pogo
March 30th, 2010
10:19 am
“Hmmm. Don’t I remember something from Obama about eliminating earmarks?
Corruption is running rampant in Washington.”
Pogo.. Shhhhhh.. that would make the man a liar.. We have to have controlled truths coming out.
Bruno
March 30th, 2010
10:26 am
“If TWO incomes are considered, you usually aren’t eligible for anything. This is called subsidizing fatherless families.”
Which partly explains the high number of people living together. When you pay people to not get married, it’s not surprising that they don’t.
It’s all Murphy Brown’s fault.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:26 am
“um. what exactly is the UN supposed to do?”
Well for one thing, they are great at stealing money from us. They’re also great at condemning Israel but overlooking Iran and North Korea.
Bosch
March 30th, 2010
10:27 am
Off topic, but I can’t help it. Ricky Martin says he’s gay.
Here’s my shocked face
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
10:27 am
it has become the norm for women to have babies out of wedlock in the black community.
I don’t think it’s just a Black community issue. I think it’s one across the board. As I said earlier, I’ve personally seen both sides of the coin. If it were as simple as you make it sound, the problem could have and would have been addressed long ago and the percentages would be coming down. However, the percentages are going up across the board. How do you explain that?
More and more women are choosing to be single. When you add that to the number of women who want to marry but can’t find a suitable mate, it will cause those numbers to continue to rise. Just because a woman isn’t married or chooses not to marry doesn’t mean that they can’t have children. If the woman is supporting herself or has a support system available to assist her, who are we to stand in judgement of someone wanting to be a mother?
JDW
March 30th, 2010
10:28 am
Doggone at 10:21
“Generally, I wouldn’t argue with what you said…but on this one, there’s the issue of what’s “dire” about someone’s circumstancese. Unless, we, as a society, are willing to cough up the funds to help raise a child to maturity…when the Mother’s circumstances make it seem impossible to HER, we have no right to interfere in her decision.”
Agreed but as of this moment there is no shortage of willing and able parents to adopt newborns. Should the situation ever arise where there are not enough then by all means the State via DFACS or some other entity should step in.
USinUK
March 30th, 2010
10:28 am
who dat – “No I have” – oh, you mean your reason that you’ve never heard of anyone using PP for their health services??? that “reason” – which has since been debunked by more than just me …
I don’t boast about intelligence … just about being informed of the facts – you seem to boast about the opposite (10-year-olds!! they woo them!!!) while not presenting any documentation to back up your assertions …
mm
March 30th, 2010
10:28 am
GA, you own these clowns. Aren’t you so proud?
Wow, Whiner quotes Am Spec who quotes Graham. The trifecta of BS.
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:29 am
Southern Comfort, you explain it now perfectly. Gosh, it is right before your eyes. Read the question that you asked me and then read your response. If you still have problems, then I will explain.
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
10:31 am
HDB
Years ago, I had a pretty good conversation with Bernice King about integration and the legacy of her father. I believe we’ve oversimplified what he was trying to achieve with integration. We didn’t achieve financial integration along with the schools and racial integration. That’s a big reason we still have racial issues as a country. We never completely integrated as a society. That’s fairly evident by this legislation as well as this thread today.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:33 am
“that “reason” – which has since been debunked by more than just me … ”
Matilda counts?
“I don’t boast about intelligence … just about being informed of the facts – you seem to boast about the opposite (10-year-olds!! they woo them!!!) while not presenting any documentation to back up your assertions …”
You don’t?????? Oh, well I must have misread your “i’m more intelligent than you are” statement. You’ve also yet to provide any facts.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:34 am
Oh I see my shrewd comment about Barney Frank and Ricky Martin was taken down. Pooh! It was all in bad/good taste. I bet it would still be up if if were about a Republican.
HDB
March 30th, 2010
10:35 am
it has become the norm for women to have babies out of wedlock in the black community.
That is contingent upon the educational level of a community along with the availability of suitable mates!! As I stated, in the welfare community, the rules made it easier to gain support when the male unit in removed from the family environment; the higher the education level, the lower the out-of-wedlock birth rate.
SoCo is on point, in that the phenomenon of single women parentage is across the spectrum due the the lack of suitable mates. In the black neighborhood, that is exacerbated by laws which target young black men, taking them out of the available pool for marriage, higher unemployment rate, and lack of dicersified education.
The issues are numerous; the solutions are likewise!!
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:36 am
Planned Parenthood Pushes Intensive Sex Education for Kids as Young as 10
A new report by the International Planned Parenthood Federation is advocating that children as young as 10 be given extensive sex education, including an awareness of sex’s pleasures.
The report, “Stand and Deliver,” charges that religious groups, specifically Catholics and Muslims, deny their young access to comprehensive sexual programs and education.
“Young people’s sexuality is still contentious for many religious institutions. Fundamentalist and other religious groups — the Catholic Church and madrasas (Islamic Schools) for example — have imposed tremendous barriers that prevent young people, particularly, from obtaining information and services related to sex and reproduction. Currently, many religious teachings deny the pleasurable and positive aspects of sex.” the report states.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/02/08/planned-parenthood-pushes-intensive-sex-education-kids-young/?test=latestnews
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:38 am
HDB, explain this to me….I know two very succesful black women at the a relatively high level employed with the Federal Government. They make great money. Why do they tell me that people hate them and call them Uncle Tom when they go home to visit? Both have children out of wedlock by the way.
HDB
March 30th, 2010
10:39 am
SoCo—damn, you are SO on point today!!
Wise saying: Romance without finance is a nuisance!!
Tea Party Gossip
March 30th, 2010
10:39 am
“Well, Gale, you called me Whi Dat so how was I supposed to respond?”
“GLE” would be the technically correct response.
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
10:39 am
BMDPD
You state it as if it’s just a problem in the Black community. I see it as a problem across the board. There’s a percentage of those single mothers who choose to be welfare dependent, as I know that’s where you’re going with this. There’s also a percentage of out-of-wedlock children who are well taken care of without welfare.
Out of 5 children my mom had, 3 of us would be considered out-of-wedlock. We were raised together in a loving home not wanting for anything. All 5 children married and 4 had in-wedlock children. Not a single one of us had out-of-wedlock children. To expand it even further, many of my 1st cousins would be in the same boat. We have a few who have had out-of-wedlock children, but the majority in my generation all had in-wedlock children. I guess we just don’t follow standard protocol well, huh?
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:39 am
Sorry, is should have said employed at a relatively high level. That makes more sense.
GoingBroke
March 30th, 2010
10:41 am
USinUK… Would you agree that some of the largest issues in South Africa are starvation and hunger?
Bruno
March 30th, 2010
10:41 am
“If the woman is supporting herself or has a support system available to assist her, who are we to stand in judgement of someone wanting to be a mother?”
All moral judgments aside, statistics show that a child raised in a two-parent home has a better life growing up and a better chance at success. There are exceptions, of course, before Matilda jumps in, but as a rule, two-parent is better.
“We never completely integrated as a society. That’s fairly evident by this legislation as well as this thread today.”
Seems like you, me, and HDB are the only ones staying on topic and discussing what I consider to be a serious problem. Is that what you mean?
“If you have TV1, they have a series that comes on Monday nights that’s like behind the music. I got the chance to see their piece on Rose Royce and part of one they did on Sylvester. It comes on at 9pm.”
I’ll look for that, SC.
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:41 am
Southern Comfort, will you divulge your race?
Matilda
March 30th, 2010
10:42 am
Who Dat, upon what do you think PP based that report? I’m thinking they based it on decades of treating women and girls for unplanned pregnancy and STDs, who had inadequate education about their bodies and how to care for them. I’m thinking they determined the age that girls should begin learning about their bodies from actually learning about and WORKING with the young people in the communities where they are most at risk. Were you thinking their recommendations came from another source?
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:42 am
“Would you agree that some of the largest issues in South Africa are starvation and hunger?”
Only if it can all be blamed on white people.
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:42 am
Matilda, why did those children inadequate education?
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:43 am
“Were you thinking their recommendations came from another source?”
Call me old fashioned, but I think it’s the PARENTS job to educate their OWN children about sex education. By the way, no one can argue that abstinence doesn’t work.
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
10:44 am
BMDPD
According to my birth certificate, I’m listed as Negro. I usually just say I’m American.
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:44 am
Who dat?, You weren’t supposed to answer my question. Matilda was!
USinUK
March 30th, 2010
10:44 am
“Oh, well I must have misread your “i’m more intelligent than you are” statement”
oh, huzzah. do. please tell me where I’ve said that. all I’ve said is that I’m informed of the facts where you seem to prefer the hysteria of the sidewalk screamers.
“Matilda counts?”
go back a page and look for the links to the PP annual reports
as for your 10:36 – this is “wooing”??? advocacy for comprehensive sex ed is ” woo(ing) 10 year old girls into killing their babies BEFORE they even have sex for the first time”??? talk about a stretch.
Normal
March 30th, 2010
10:45 am
Southern Comfort, will you divulge your race?
SoCo,
You’ve just gotta go back to your last nom de blog…
JDW
March 30th, 2010
10:45 am
Dogone the other part of your 10:21
“And here’s something that I always keep in mind when the subject of abortions comes up: many years ago someone (can’t remember who anymore) said that eventually abortions themselves would lead to fewer abortions…because children who are wanted are much more likely to want their own children.”
It is quite true that the number and ratios of abortions to live births has declined and possible that your statement above could have an impact. I still think over 800,000 a year is an abysmal stat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States
I will also say that history is replete with examples of people rising above miserable childhoods to succeed….even should if that be their lot I think they should get the chance. I know I would have wanted it.
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
10:45 am
Bruno
It’s definitely a serious problem. I don’t think it can be addressed with soundbyte politics either. It’s going to take some serious thought, planning, and action to do anything.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:45 am
“’m thinking they determined the age that girls should begin learning about their bodies from actually learning about and WORKING with the young people in the communities where they are most at risk.”
Nothing like keeping the black folk down, eh! Basically you’re saying black people are too stupid to make their way through life without the help of good ole government. Well, looks like government has turned the black community into a zombie caste system.
HDB
March 30th, 2010
10:46 am
BMDPD: Since I don’t know your associates, I can’t address a particular situation…but I will attempt to address your question as best as possible:
Many black women are indoctrinated that their ambition should be marriage and parenthood…not a career. Because of the non-availability of suitable mates and their financial successes due to the black female’s being more accepted in the work force than the black male, they have the option to either raise a child independently…or marry interracially.
Parents often ostracize their daughters for NOT being married….and that often influences a woman’s decision either to NOT get married…or settle for the first available!! Either view often works towards the disintegration of black families.
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
10:47 am
Normal
If it weren’t for skilled defense lawyers, I would not have changed it. However, when lawyers are doing anything and everything to get their defendents off, including impugning the character of law enforcement officers, I have to make myself as small a target as possible.
USinUK
March 30th, 2010
10:47 am
“By the way, no one can argue that abstinence doesn’t work.”
I believe Sarah P has a teenage daughter who said on national teevee that abstinence ed doesn’t work because it isn’t realistic:
“Everyone should be abstinent . . . but it’s not realistic at all,” the 18-year-old told Fox’s Greta Van Susteren, adding that having sex as a teenager had become “more and more accepted now” among people her age.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/17/abstinence-is-not-realistic-palins-daughter-says/?fbid=CcF2QN_U7zJ
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:47 am
Southern Comfort, could you answer my question to HDB then? Also, there are exceptions to every rule. Please don’t get me wrong. I am stating that in a majority, but not all cases the lack of a strong father/father-figure will lead to more problems for a child.
Mae West
March 30th, 2010
10:47 am
According to my birth certificate, I’m listed as Negro. I usually just say I’m American.
and all man too. Why don’t I come up and see you sometime? Yum.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:48 am
“all I’ve said is that I’m informed of the facts where you seem to prefer the hysteria of the sidewalk screamers.”
But you never presented any facts. Only your own biased “smarter than thou” opinions.
“go back a page and look for the links to the PP annual reports ”
You mean the outdated 3 year old annual reports?
“advocacy for comprehensive sex ed is ” woo(ing) 10 year old girls into killing their babies BEFORE they even have sex for the first time”??? talk about a stretch.”
No not really, especially since I’ve posted a full report on how PP woos little girls.
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:49 am
HDB, one is from Ga. The other is from the midwest. They say that face a lot of “haters” when they go home. Not their family, but both say from the “fat women in the projects”.
USinUK
March 30th, 2010
10:49 am
going broke – “Would you agree that some of the largest issues in South Africa are starvation and hunger?”
just to clarify – are you talking about south africa, the country – or sub-saharan africa, the continent?
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:49 am
“I believe Sarah P has a teenage daughter who said on national teevee that abstinence ed doesn’t work because it isn’t realistic:”
That’s because she gave in to temptation and got knocked up by the Paris Hilton of trailer trash. It works when people abstain from it. But please, continue to inform me of how condoms save lives as STD levels rise and deaths mount.
FultonRighty
March 30th, 2010
10:50 am
Personally, I like the bill–why is there any problem with going after coercion–some estimate as many as 45% of abortions are coerced by boyfriend, husband, parent, or pimp. What does “choice” mean if abortions are coerced???
And sex-selection? Racially discriminatory? Many of those are tied up in coercion too. If you protect female and minority rights in the workplace, how bout in the womb?
What really needs to change is our culture’s view of the birthmother’s decision to choose adoption. It is estimated that there are only 6800 non-familial adoptions per year, over 10 million families who would consider adoption, hundreds of thousands of waiting families, and 1.3 million abortions per year. Every child is a wanted child, but is not available because of abortion and single parenting.
Girls/women who choose adoption for their babies are loving, sacrificial, realistic, mature individuals who focus on what is best for their baby and for themselves. I applaud them! But they are too rare, partly because it does not appear to be a viable choice for them–our society needs to support that choice wholeheartedly, but without coercion either.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:50 am
USinUK
CNN is dead last in ratings. CNN gets beaten out by every single cable channel provided.
JDW
March 30th, 2010
10:51 am
Who Dat
“Call me old fashioned, but I think it’s the PARENTS job to educate their OWN children about sex education.”
In your perfect world where all parents are great and responsible that works wonderfully, however in the real world it does not happen that way.
“By the way, no one can argue that abstinence doesn’t work”
If you adhere to abstinence it works, problem is no one can just say no forever (even Republicans). If you think they can you either don’t remember what youth was like or you have a bigger problem.
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:52 am
Abstinence does work! However, we live in a culture that promotes sex rather than abstinence. How many people let their daughters watch shows like Greys Anatomy and Private Practice? Promiscuity is promoted on every corner. Abstinence is not. How many TV shows glorify people for being abstinent? Many glorify sexual promiscuity.
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
10:53 am
As far as them being referred to as an Uncle Tom, it either means that:
a) Those throwing the insults are insecure of themselves and envious because they’re still living at home and didn’t venture out and make something of themselves.
or
b) They have no idea of what the slur “Uncle Tom” actually means and are just showing their education level or lack thereof.
HDB also states a very valid point about the perceived role of women in the Black community. The man is supposed to be the main bread winner and primary financial supporter. The woman’s primary role is to be a supporting spouse and good mother. If a woman chooses or has a good career and is single, many believe that they have intentionally decided against being a spouse or mother to advance their career. That is an unwritten no-no in our community.
USinUK
March 30th, 2010
10:53 am
who – “But you never presented any facts”
incorrect – I presented the breakdown of their services and a link to the source of the information (9:35)
“since I’ve posted a full report on how PP woos little girls.”
oh, really??? what time was that post??? and where was the link substantiating??? cuz it sure as heck isn’t the sex ed post from Fox
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:54 am
Well tell our kids one thing and let them watch trash that promotes another. No wonder they make mistakes.
USinUK
March 30th, 2010
10:55 am
“CNN is dead last in ratings”
so …. what??? that means Palin’s dauther DIDN’T say what she said???
Bruno
March 30th, 2010
10:55 am
“and all man too. Why don’t I come up and see you sometime? Yum.”
Are you sure, Mae? Rumor is that bulge in his pants is just his gun……
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:55 am
Southern Comfort, I entirely disagree. Single moms are glamorized by society.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:55 am
“In your perfect world where all parents are great and responsible that works wonderfully, however in the real world it does not happen that way.”
That’s because people make too many stupid decisions. Divorce, out of wedlock births etc… Not my problem.
“If you adhere to abstinence it works, problem is no one can just say no forever (even Republicans).”
Since when was abstinence a Republican issue? No one ever said anything about saying no forever.
“If you think they can you either don’t remember what youth was like or you have a bigger problem.”
Been married for a long time now. Didn’t have sex before marriage.
Let the mocking begin.
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
10:55 am
FultonRighty
If there’s so many considering adoption, how do you explain the number of children in foster care and/or group homes? Shouldn’t they have been all adopted by now?
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:55 am
Adultery is glamorized.
Matilda
March 30th, 2010
10:56 am
“Call me old fashioned, but I think it’s the PARENTS job to educate their OWN children about sex education.”
I agree that it’s the parent’s job to educate their children. No argument there! However, not all parents DO. The problem of uneducated children, in that case, becomes the burden of the children themselves (who deserve better!) and of the society in which they live. It is therefore incumbent upon SOMEBODY to educate the children. Why would you deny them what they deserve?
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:56 am
“oh, really??? what time was that post??? and where was the link substantiating??? cuz it sure as heck isn’t the sex ed post from Fox”
10:36 am.
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:56 am
Free Sex is glamorized.
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:57 am
Doing what feels good is glamorized.
GoingBroke
March 30th, 2010
10:57 am
USinUK I think you could say both at this point.
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:57 am
Sleeping around with who you want when you want is glamorized. Then we wonder why our kids do it!
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:58 am
“incorrect – I presented the breakdown of their services and a link to the source of the information (9:35)”
Oh you mean the PP propaganda piece?
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
10:58 am
BMDPD
I disagree with that, in fact, I believe single mothers are ostracized by society. Most of the tv shows show children in two-parent homes as does movies. Single mothers are more likely to be referred to as welfare mothers as opposed to being referred to as just mothers. But, that’s the good thing about living in America, we’re both free to express our opinions.
Bruno
March 30th, 2010
10:58 am
md–If you poke your head in today, JASO has gone up almost $1 per share this past week. Happy days are here, friend!
How high is this puppy going to go?
HDB
March 30th, 2010
10:59 am
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:43 am
“Were you thinking their recommendations came from another source?”
Call me old fashioned, but I think it’s the PARENTS job to educate their OWN children about sex education. By the way, no one can argue that abstinence doesn’t work.
Two points:
1) Not all parents are comfortable enough to explain sexual functions to children…and the preventative measures therein. I was blessed to have a BIOLOGY teacher as a parent…and was given the full explanation when I was 8!!
2) Abstinence education doesn’t completely work…for it has been shown that those who were primarily taught abstinence WITHOUT comprehensive sex education were just as likely to get pregnant as those who had NO sex education at all.
@ Who dat: Nothing like keeping the black folk down, eh! Basically you’re saying black people are too stupid to make their way through life without the help of good ole government. Well, looks like government has turned the black community into a zombie caste system.
Not entirely the case; note what I’d said previously about welfare rules and the removal of the male unit!! There are those who udes the system as intended and removed themselves AND their families from dependence!! Those stories are RARELY heard….but those that are persistently heard are those who have been dependent for generations!! What ISN’T truly shown, though, is the preponderance of white families on generational dependence in Appalachia! That, too, is a issue here!!
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
10:59 am
“Why would you deny them what they deserve?”
That’s working out really well, eh? Kids giving birth to kids…………..
Williebkind
March 30th, 2010
10:59 am
Birds of a feather flock together! No matter how much education or whatever that still applies. Jay is talking about blacks so this must be about Racism. I thought Cynthia had that role in ajc. Just remember is you do not put minorities on top–then you are a RACIST.
Well here it comes! The young black females want to get pregant and have a babies for the state and federal benefits involved. A young 16yr old can become independent with all the handouts she will receive.
Where is the dad? His is most likely being sympathetic and looking for another score.
Doggone/GA
March 30th, 2010
11:00 am
“Agreed but as of this moment there is no shortage of willing and able parents to adopt newborns”
Maybe, but that situation is a bit too much like “adoptable” dogs…puppies are easy to place, but the older ones are not. And there’s still a 9 month gap between conception and birth. Are those “willing adopters” willing to pay BEFORE the baby is born to help ensure that it IS born? And, regardless, it’s still the pregnant woman’s choice.
USinUK
March 30th, 2010
11:00 am
who – 10:56 – like I said – you call this “wooing”??? they’re advocating for comprehensive sex ed.
FultonRighty
March 30th, 2010
11:01 am
Southern Comfort, there are so many in foster care because they were neglected or abused, then the system takes time to try to get them back with their bio parents, before getting to the point of terminating their parental rights which makes them finally adoptable.
Just because you are infertile doesn’t mean you are qualified to raise a child who has been through that trauma. Babies, even crack babies, those will medical needs, etc. are adoptable when placed early because the mother chooses to terminate her parental rights and make an adoption plan. Older children are harder and harder to place, but finally some churches are stepping up to the plate and creating support systems for parents who will take on the challenges.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
11:01 am
“Not all parents are comfortable enough to explain sexual functions to children…and the preventative measures therein.”
Then it’s their own fault.
“Abstinence education doesn’t completely work”
Works every time. Don;t have sex, don’t get std’s or end up pregnant.
“What ISN’T truly shown, though, is the preponderance of white families on generational dependence in Appalachia! That, too, is a issue here!!”
Yeah, but Appalachia isn’t on every street corner in every American city now is it.
HDB
March 30th, 2010
11:02 am
BMDPD
March 30th, 2010
10:49 am
HDB, one is from Ga. The other is from the midwest. They say that face a lot of “haters” when they go home. Not their family, but both say from the “fat women in the projects”.
They’re hated due to their SUCCESS!! Remember the old saying: Misery LOVES company!! Your associates have risen above the stereotype…and those who remain behind desire their failure, not their success!! That’s where the “haterade” stems from!!
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
11:03 am
“they’re advocating for comprehensive sex ed.”
To 10 year olds who are still playing with barbie dolls.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
11:03 am
“That’s where the “haterade” stems from!!”
Is haterade the opposite of gatorade?
Dusty
March 30th, 2010
11:04 am
Oh, folks, Jay hooks you every time. He doesn’t care about this bill in Georiga ligislature. He wants you to “carry on” about abortions in GEORGIA where Republicans are predominate. Anything to make GEORGIA look bad. Be it the governor or the legislature or anything from GEORGIA, he throws it in your face like it is mud. GEORGIA is not liberal so Bookman “endures” it. And you bloggers jump right on it like Pavlov’s dogs.
Georgia legislators saw the word “genocide” and said no way we are letting that happen. So those mean ol’ men/women of GEORGIA are evil!! Yes sir & mam, EVIL says Bookman or (anti-black conspiracy plot)..
Oh well, I believe there is already a law on the books called Roe vs Wade which is a federal law. Hash it out, folks. Set those evil old Georgia crackers straight. Bookman knows all. Doncha know? All Republicans are E V I L, ’specially in GEORGIA.
stands for decibels
March 30th, 2010
11:04 am
USinUK, if you want a good laugh (or cry, depending on how you interpret these things) you might want a look at the report that launched the FoxNews hissy fit about lurin’ and teachin’ 10 year olds about how much fun getting’ down with the nasty-nasty really is.
I had a skim and it appears to be based on this:
“The World Health Organization defines young people as those from 10 to 24 years of age, including adolescents (10–19 years) and youth (15–24 years). IPPF uses the terms young people, youth and adolescents interchangeably to refer to people who are between 10 and 24 years. Defining all people under 18 years of age as a child is often not useful because it ignores the circumstances of youth who are faced with pressures and responsibilities that are usually reserved for adults. Policies and programmes for young people should focus not so much on age, but on the specific developmental needs and rights of individuals as they transition from childhood to adulthood.
And as you may have gathered by the spelling, the report wasn’t even issued by Planned Parenthood of America, but rather its international branch.
Rightwing Troll
March 30th, 2010
11:06 am
Hmmmm… meanwhile we have real issues to confront, not imagined ones…
This one’s a doozy:
http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2010/03/30/dead-marines-dad-ordered-to-pay-protesters-legal-fees/?cxntfid=blogs_political_insider_jim_galloway
Here’s how to help:
http://www.matthewsnyder.org/help.html
Whether you lean right or left, hasn’t this soldier’s father endured enough? First from the nut sacks that showed up to protest at his son’s funeral then at the hands of a judge?
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
11:07 am
FultonRighty
SO what you’re saying is that all those considering adoption will only do so if they have the perfect baby for adoption? I know there are special needs children who need specialized care, but there are many who are available for adoption and nobody wants them. If they were wanted, they wouldn’t be up for adoption.
Gator Joe
March 30th, 2010
11:07 am
How humane the Georgia Republicans are. They are interested in protecting some of us from being killed prior to being born. Ironically, once born, we are subjected to their racism, their unjust wars, and their poisoning of the enviornment. They are “Pro-life” as long as it includes the uborn only and scores political points.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
11:07 am
Barack Obama faces potential Chinese death trap
The road ahead on all three is filled with pitfalls. If the US President gets any of them wrong, his supposed triumph on healthcare will soon be the forgotten flotsam and jetsam of another failed presidency.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/globalbusiness/7536025/Barack-Obama-faces-potential-Chinese-death-trap.html
RJ
March 30th, 2010
11:08 am
Who dat,
“Then it’s their own fault.”
I’m glad you think that. I’m also sure you also don’t mind your taxes going up to pay for the baby’s welfare checks. Unfortunately it may be their fault, but it quickly becomes our problem.
“Works every time. Don;t have sex, don’t get std’s or end up pregnant.”
Tell that to Bristol Palin. Absinence may work, but the comment is referring to abstinence EDUCATION which almost never works. There are some exceptions, but for the most part the people who stay abstinant through college years are the ones that can’t get laid. Oh and if you’re offended by that, you’re the one I’m talking about.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
11:09 am
“Ironically, once born, we are subjected to their racism, their unjust wars, and their poisoning of the enviornment. ”
Where is this supposed “racism?” If you want to scream about war, go talk to Obama because we’re still there.
JDW
March 30th, 2010
11:11 am
Who,
I think we found the problem!
“That’s because people make too many stupid decisions. Divorce, out of wedlock births etc… Not my problem.”
If it is “not your problem” then you are just pontificating. When you are ready to be part of the solution rather than part of the noise level you might get taken a bit more seriously.
As for the sex before marriage issue congratulations!
NEWS FLASH you don’t get to set the rules for everyone just yourself.
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
11:11 am
RwT
I’d like to see the lawsuit and the reasoning behind the judgement on that. I’ll spread this info along to my friends.
Doggone/GA
March 30th, 2010
11:11 am
“even should if that be their lot I think they should get the chance.”
I would agree if the only abortions that ever occured were mankind intiated…but until spontaneous abortions cease entirely, I see no difference between one kind of abortion and another.
Who dat?
March 30th, 2010
11:12 am
“I’m glad you think that. I’m also sure you also don’t mind your taxes going up to pay for the baby’s welfare checks. Unfortunately it may be their fault, but it quickly becomes our problem.”
Sure does.
“Tell that to Bristol Palin. ”
How many more lame brained libs are gonna bring up Bristol Palin? You tell her, I’m not her daddy. I have my own to think about.
“Absinence may work, but the comment is referring to abstinence EDUCATION which almost never works.”
Worked for me when my folks talked to me about the dangers of sex before marriage.
“but for the most part the people who stay abstinant through college years are the ones that can’t get laid. Oh and if you’re offended by that, you’re the one I’m talking about.”
Nope, I’m happily married. Thanks for the insult though. You might want to check your spelling before posting a comment.
GoingBroke
March 30th, 2010
11:12 am
Gotta love the liberal thinking..
First you have.. Rancher pays damages to illegal immigrants captured on his land. – He points a gun and keeps them held until border patrol arrives.. gets sued by the illegal immigrants.
Second you have.. Different rancher.. Illegal Immigrant Suspected in Murder of Arizona Rancher – so.. explain to me about the gun issue at the border again?
Southern Comfort
March 30th, 2010
11:13 am
Dusty
I think it’s the whole genocide thing. Normally I’d expect better, but we’re talking about the Georgia Legislature.