A cup of coffee raised in tribute to Speaker Pelosi
In the wake of Scott Brown’s victory in Massachusetts, health-insurance reform was widely proclaimed as a hopeless cause. As recently as January, to cite just one example of many, Washington überhack Fred Barnes was chortling that “the health care bill, ObamaCare, is dead with not the slightest prospect of resurrection.”
Nancy Pelosi accepts the speaker's gavel from John Boehner in 2007, becoming the first woman ever to hold that post.
Reading through various accounts of its resurrection, I’ve been struck by the importance of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. After the loss of Ted Kennedy’s seat, it was Pelosi who blew off White House suggestions to “go small” and seek small victories. And it was the speaker from San Francisco who instilled discipline into a notoriously undisciplined Democratic caucus and rounded up the votes needed for Sunday’s unlikely triumph.
“Just think,” she said from the House floor Sunday night, once success was assured, “we will be joining those who have established Social Security, Medicare and now, tonight, health care for all Americans.”
My favorite quote about Pelosi’s impact, culled from the New York Daily News, came from Democratic political strategist Mark Siegel:
“She’s Lyndon Johnson in a skirt. She was patient, tireless, persistent and cajoling – and she pulled off what no one else could.”
Pelosi has long been a designated “Object of Hate” for those on the right, for reasons that frankly escape me. All you had to do was flash a picture of her on the screen at a conservative political gathering and you could feel the room recoil. This historic success will no doubt cement that standing. And while the Republicans certainly will try to use health care as a lever to pry Pelosi from the speaker’s podium, they will find it almost impossible to undo the legislation itself.
So in this, National Women’s History Month, let’s raise a cup of morning coffee to Speaker Pelosi: She got it done. Let’s also take a sip in the hope that years from now, we may read about some hard-nosed male legislative leader who, fresh off a major success, is labeled “Pelosi in long pants.”
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cosmos
March 23rd, 2010
9:19 am
John McCain ….. “There will be no cooperation from republicans for the rest of the year”. That’s really mature of John. Btw, when was the last time the country did get any cooperation from the republicans on solving our problems?
NRB2
March 23rd, 2010
9:19 am
I’d rather throw a cup of coffee i her ugly face. I can’t wait to watch her lose her job. Hopefully she’ll get breast cancer.
Peadawg
March 23rd, 2010
9:20 am
““According to you, it’s hatred”
Please quote me back where I ever said any such thing.”
Doggone/GA @ 9:04 “No one has said anything about disagreeing with Pelosi’s politics. Jay specifically mentioned her as an object of HATRED. That is WAY, WAY beyond disagreeing with her politics.”
USinUK
March 23rd, 2010
9:20 am
stay classy, NRB.
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
9:21 am
“The rest of us are trying to tell you we don’t like Pelosi because of her socialist politics and underhanded approach to enacting this bill that mort American didn’t want. And you apparently aren’t smart enough to figure that out”
Actually, I am smart enough. What YOU don’t appear to be smart enough to understand that if you don’t HATE her, then Jay’s comment did not apply to you…now did it? He was talking about those who HATE HER, not those who merely disagree with her politics.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo!
March 23rd, 2010
9:21 am
Tax Target- You are correct, the American people are spitting blood over this socialist obomination.
The Vietnam protest was a few wild eyed, drunken and drugged children, as matter of fact, the same few wild eyed, drunken and drugged children that now are in the White House and Congress.
Same as today, the majority of Americans were in favor of our mission in Vietnam and history still shows the those democrats as being spineless wonders and national security surrender monkeys.
ty webb
March 23rd, 2010
9:21 am
RB fro gwinnett,
Careful attacking Jay. You might be accused of “hackism” or “water- carrierism”
Peadawg
March 23rd, 2010
9:21 am
“It wouldn’t matter. Democrat or Republican, I don’t know her personally so I can’t say if I would “like” her or not. I don’t base my opinion of what she has done on whether I “like” her ornot.”
Alright smartars. Would you be raising your cup of coffee to her if she was a Republican? Would you be praising her like you are now? You knew what the hell I meant.
NRB2
March 23rd, 2010
9:22 am
Btw, when was the last time the country did get any cooperation from the republicans on solving our problems?
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When was the last time you worthless libs actually worked on solving your own problems, as opposed to forcing everyone else to do it for you via government force.
Also, the government, R or D, is totally incapable of solving problems. The government only CREATES more problems.
Joel Edge
March 23rd, 2010
9:22 am
RB from Gwinnett
Good luck on that tack. You’re requiring liberals to actually think of a person as a person, instead of the stereotypes that they like promote. That’s way to much stretch for the liberal mind.
FinnMcCool
March 23rd, 2010
9:22 am
I don’t think the wingnuts are any more scared of a female in power than they are about anything else in life since, oh, 1965. Wasn’t it around 1965 that they took to hiding out in the woods, practicing with their firearms for the day who-knows-what might happen?
They aren’t just afraid of a woman in power, they’re afraid of EVERYTHING, including their own shadows.
USinUK
March 23rd, 2010
9:22 am
peadawg – I don’t know if you realize this, but your 9:20 actually backs up Doggone’s point. disagreeing with Pelosi isn’t hatred.
crap such as that spewed by NRB’s 9:19, however …
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
9:23 am
Nice try Peadawg, but completely wrong. Once again, I am TRYING to draw the distinction between HATING HER and hating her POLITICS.
jconservative
March 23rd, 2010
9:23 am
I do not like this bill and what will happen to it in the future as it gets expanded to cover more and do more.
But I agree with Bookman on this one. Pelosi pulled off one of the major accomplishments in congressional history. If you want to hate her for it, be my guest. That is a different issue. The fact is that the first female Speaker pulled off one of the major deals in House history. The next Speaker is has a hard act to follow.
Scooter
March 23rd, 2010
9:23 am
Let’s get on to immigration, so I can shoot down all the BS!!!
AMEN! I have had all i can stand of HC debate. Let’s move on.
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
9:24 am
“crap such as that spewed by NRB’s 9:19, however …”
yep, THAT was hatred.
Peadawg
March 23rd, 2010
9:25 am
“They aren’t just afraid of a woman in power”
I have no problem w/ a woman in power. My boss is a woman. Condoleezza Rice is a woman. My wife when she puts on the cop costume. I have no problem w/ women in power.
FinnMcCool
March 23rd, 2010
9:25 am
Aren’t you required to buy auto insurance if you want to drive? The demand that you buy health insurance can be argued that we don’t want you getting the rest of sick.
Bosch
March 23rd, 2010
9:26 am
“Would you be raising your cup of coffee to her if she was a Republican?”
If she’d been instrumental in passing a healthcare bill that assures no one can be dropped from their insurance policy because of sickness, be denied coverage due to a sickness, and provides insurance for kids that doesn’t have it, then yes, I would.
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
9:26 am
“I have no problem w/ women in power”
Then what’s your problem? The comment would not apply to you.
Bosch
March 23rd, 2010
9:27 am
I like that jconservative – he’s alright.
USinUK
March 23rd, 2010
9:27 am
Bosch – 9:26 – hell, I’d even raise a LATTE if a GOPper did that … of course, I’d have to recover from the shock, first …
Mr. Snarky
March 23rd, 2010
9:28 am
Hear hear!
The fact that she’s a liberal woman from San Francisco will cause conservatives to mis-underestimate her every time. The fact that she is Speaker proves she’s tough and smart. The fact that Healthcare passed is proof that she’s effective.
Those are the facts. Everything else is just nattering and noise.
pat
March 23rd, 2010
9:28 am
cosmos, why would they cooperate? obama just urinates on everything they say. He has no respect for them, why should they return in kind? obama is the most partisan president in history. And he’s a first class jerk when his trump card is always “I won”, because that’s real mature.
Let’s see what the courts say about this bill. Hopefully it will be labeled unconstitutional.
You would actually have to ammend the constitution to make healthcare a right.
thomas
March 23rd, 2010
9:29 am
Seems as if there are many, many, here who hold a true belief in the “Ends Justify the Means”
As anyone with any integrity could not be proud of the individual actions taken by Pelosi. One could only be proud of the result.
Unless anyone here thinks it is a good thing for our government to work by bribing, and intimidating fellow party members to vote with the party?
The record is clear and none can deny that pelosi and company did employ thee methods, eventhough some had to be removed because of uncovered deals and public outrage.
I’ve yet to see anything truely good and just that you had to Bribe people to get them to agree with it.
RB from Gwinnett
March 23rd, 2010
9:29 am
Oh gee, Doggie, maybe you can have Jay post a list of names he was referring to since you believe it wasn’t a general “people who disagree with her HATE her” post. Jay seems to have left off any specifics of who he was talking about, but somehow you understood he had a handful of specific people in mind???? lol
Peadawg
March 23rd, 2010
9:29 am
“and provides insurance for kids that doesn’t have it”
Please don’t tell me your talking about 25 yr olds on their mommy and daddy’s insruance…like I said yesterday, do we need to hire Sarah Jessica Parker?
Bosch
March 23rd, 2010
9:30 am
USinUK,
Yes, that latte would have to have a strong shot of bourbon in it if a GOP ever did that.
And to all my former Engrish teachers:
“provides insurance for kids that doesn’t have it”
I’m so sorry. I obviously need more coffee.
FinnMcCool
March 23rd, 2010
9:30 am
Like Bosch and US said, if a Republican passed something like that – that was this altruistic? Yeah, I would be first in line to thank them and congratulate them.
pat
March 23rd, 2010
9:31 am
The auto insurance analogy is the dumbest it the world. You don’t have to buy a car or insure it. If you live in the city, you don’t need a car.
You cannot help being born, that is if your mother decides that your birth would impead her life to much and hence not kill you.
RHR
March 23rd, 2010
9:31 am
Well I for one am proud of Ms. Pelosi and the Dems for getting this done. It’s a baby step, but it’s a step forward, for a change.
It is highly amusing seeing the righties foaming at the mouth thinking they might have a chance to reclaim the house over this. http://www.gop.com/firepelosi/ – Stay classy, GOP!
Bosch
March 23rd, 2010
9:31 am
Peadawg,
No, but I could in the future be talking about my son who will hopefully be in medical school at that age, and it would be nice not to have to worry about him not having insurance.
Bosch
March 23rd, 2010
9:31 am
Finn,
Hell, I’d go so far as to hug them.
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
9:32 am
“but somehow you understood he had a handful of specific people in mind???? lol”
It’s not MY fault you can’t understand that his comment applied only to those who hate HER, and who cannot separate their hatred of her politics from an opinion of her as a person.
Bosch
March 23rd, 2010
9:33 am
“You cannot help being born, that is if your mother decides that your birth would impead her life to much and hence not kill you.”
Oh my freaking God.
Peadawg
March 23rd, 2010
9:33 am
“The auto insurance analogy is the dumbest it the world”
AMEN!!!!!
cosmos
March 23rd, 2010
9:34 am
Pat, that’s pretty lame. The partisan politics all came from the repubs and right wing talk show hosts along with False News. They stated their intentions up front and vowed to make health care reform Obama’s waterloo. Check out what David Frun has to say about waterloo. Btw, I’m not a lib, not even a dem. Just want to see the right things done for this country.
Tax target
March 23rd, 2010
9:34 am
“Tax Target, we were much more divided back in the civil rights/Vietnam era.”
Thanks. I must admit growing up in the West, civil rights was something that happened east of the Mississippi and the VN era — again, undergrad, professional and residency consumed my time and attention.
Seems, at least to me, that today’s level of real time electronic communications and coverage, including media bias (both ways), is reaching and dividing the population moreso than in times past. Or perhaps, it’s just that now I care and am directly impacted by today’s issues….
NowReally
March 23rd, 2010
9:34 am
One thing about Speaker Pelosi when she speaks, thank goodness, she isn’t Sarah Palin. I think the conservatives hate her more than they do our President. You know she’s doing something right, when the conservatives hate you; the way they hate her.
I’m raising a cup of coffee in tribute as well…… you go girl.
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
9:34 am
“that is if your mother decides that your birth would impead her life to much and hence not kill you”
Ummm…might want to reword that, as you are saying that if “your birth” would impead (sic) her life she would NOT abort the pregnancy. I’m quite, quite sure that is NOT what you meant to say.
Bosch
March 23rd, 2010
9:35 am
Tax Target,
In my opinion, it’s the 24/7 news cycle – they have to fill that time up, and sensationalism (and misinformation) sells.
Mick
March 23rd, 2010
9:36 am
It’s not all wine and roses for pelosi, I remember she’s the one who declared impeachment is off the table, forget bush, they should’ve impeached cheney..
Drew
March 23rd, 2010
9:36 am
Helping conservatives with math is like helping an elementary school child with math – what they say is so wrong that you don’t know where to begin.
The cost of health care reform is $940 billion over ten years, and if you divide that $940 billion by the current population of the United States, you get around $3000. Which I assume is where RB got his number.
So, basically, the cost of ensuring that 95% of Americans have health care is, effectively, $3000 per person per decade, or about $300 per person per year, or less than $1 per person per day. Which is still too much for conservatives.
But spending money to blow up Iraq, Afghanistan, and maybe Iran? Totally worth it!
Otherwise, it’s worth noting that the cost of the health care plan will be borne mostly by the wealthy: it’s funded by an increase in the medicare payroll tax on those earning more than $250,000 a year, a tax on Cadillac insurance plans, and a tax on the drug, insurance, and medical device industries. Most of us will see no change in our taxes. But we will all have better health care.
As for Pelosi, conservatives don’t hate her because she’s a woman; they hate her because she’s effective. The fact that she’s a woman is more an aggravating factor than cause.
MAL
March 23rd, 2010
9:37 am
Change takes courage. The House, especially the House leadership, showed great political courage in passing this and Pelosi deserves great praise. She steered into passage a bill which will make this country better, despite the screechings from the narrowminded opposition. Civil rights…women’s rights…desegregation. These were all called the end of democracy and the downfall of our country when they passed. Is there anyone on here who can argue that passing those pieces of social change were wrong?
“Few are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of the colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change.
Robert F. Kennedy
USinUK
March 23rd, 2010
9:37 am
Bosch – “Oh my freaking God” – seriously. as if the amature dramatics wasn’t bad enough … impeAD??? oy.
cmac
March 23rd, 2010
9:38 am
Since her momma didn’t do us any favors before this plastic faced ho was birthed, maybe the crappy people of california will abort her in november!
jewcowboy
March 23rd, 2010
9:39 am
“Pelosi has long been a designated “Object of Hate” for those on the right, for reasons that frankly escape me.”
Successful, strong-minded women who do not pander to men are often subject of derision by the right. While those on the right love women who, as Doggone/GA put it, “know their place,” and do not intimidate men. At least that has been the historical record. See Ann Richards for another example.
On the flipside of that, those on the left love to deride successful women they perceive as pandering to men or meek.
Democrats love their women politicians to wear pants and Republicans love them to wear skirts (and peek-a-boo red stilletos). C’est la vie.
The Nerve
March 23rd, 2010
9:40 am
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
9:10 am
“The Nerve, how dare to not disagree w/ Pelosi or Obama’s policies”
Where has anyone said you can’t disagree with their politics?
Nobody has specifically said that. It’s just when some do, you get called a “hater” or “racist” or “hater of the poor” or “neocon” or told that you think “Strong women are anethema to conservative men (which is pretty bold statement saying ALL conservative men think that way, don’t you think?) or a “knuckle dragging gooper” or “self-loathing, suggestive Homophobe”. Those are the ones just before 9:00 today.
Eric
March 23rd, 2010
9:40 am
YES! Give ‘em hell, Nancy. It’s about time congress got one right. I couldn’t be prouder.
thomas
March 23rd, 2010
9:41 am
Bosch,
most colleges and universities offer school insurance. It is very cheap and does not cover every single item, such as a “Cadilac Plan” but it will take care of a doctors visit or ER trip.
Many college athletes join on this insurance, as many do not have any through their family upon arriving to school. All athletes must have insurance and many schools have chosen to open this to athletes. And since athletes cannot have an opportunity granted to them that is not granted to the other students then insurance is offered to all.
So if your son goes onto med school, god i hope he does we NEED more doctors, then he would be eligible to purchase health care.
Unless this bill strips colleges of that right. i know seems silly to think this bill would eliminate that option as its goal is to make health care more accessable to all. But I didn’t see what Financial Aide had to do with Health Care either, but one would be surprised the effects this bill WILL have on finacial Aide, just got done talking to our FA department this morning.
cosmos
March 23rd, 2010
9:42 am
MAL @9:37 —- Good job.
@@
March 23rd, 2010
9:42 am
Geez! Nancy Pelosi is a career politician from a family of career politicians. Between her and her husband, their overall financial worth is around 43 million, give or take.
Nancy lost me when she chose not to address the sexist attacks against Hillary and Sarah during the campaign. That, and she opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion.
About the separation clause that the leftists were yakkin’ up downstairs. Did you all notice how Nancy pointed to the various religious organizations who supported Obamacare? Use the religious community when it’s convenient (serves your purpose), toss it when it’s not.
Kinda like your “commitment” to the unborn.
You leftists really are a disgusting bunch. No moral principles on which you stand firm.
jewcowboy
March 23rd, 2010
9:43 am
“I’d rather throw a cup of coffee i her ugly face. I can’t wait to watch her lose her job. Hopefully she’ll get breast cancer.”
Hmmm…I would say this is personal hatred from a somewhat unstable individual.
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
9:43 am
“On the flipside of that, those on the left love to deride successful women they perceive as pandering to men or meek”
yes, you do see that…but I think you see more of that derision reserved for “successful” women who only became successful BECAUSE OF their willingness to pander to men. “Sleeping your way to the top” is definitely worthy of derision.
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
9:44 am
“It’s just when some do, you get called ”
yes, that does happen…and those who would to that are just as devoid of sense as are those who hate a person because they hate her politics.
Bosch
March 23rd, 2010
9:45 am
thomas,
Thanks for the information, but I will also extend that to college grads looking for jobs – it’s still nice to have a cushion. And if they are living with me at that time, their butts will be paying rent – even if it’s mowing the grass again for allowance money.
jewcowboy
March 23rd, 2010
9:45 am
thomas,
“Seems as if there are many, many, here who hold a true belief in the “Ends Justify the Means”
The ends seemed to jusitfy the means for Republicans with the Medicare Part D, Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.
See a theme there?
Chris
March 23rd, 2010
9:46 am
Jay…Don’t really think we were so much more divided during civl rights era. Didn’t it pass the Senate with bipartisan support something like 70-30 or some number close to that? Also was a much more CIVIL discourse in the senate then than now.
Bosch
March 23rd, 2010
9:46 am
jewcowboy,
“Hmmm…I would say this is personal hatred from a somewhat unstable individual.”
Gee, ya’ think?
Matilda
March 23rd, 2010
9:48 am
Women who assert themselves are always vilified. What’s new? That they do so anyway is a testament to their courage. (Ask Benazir Bhutto.)
Have never been a big Pelosi fan, but this accomplishment does go in her plus column, no doubt.
jewcowboy
March 23rd, 2010
9:48 am
Doggone/GA,
“Sleeping your way to the top” is definitely worthy of derision.”
Unless you’re the one at the top
HDB
March 23rd, 2010
9:48 am
RB – The question you SHOULD ask is this: How many people in the MIDDLE CLASS have ALREADY PAID for the tax BREAKS that primarily focused on the wealthy??
Since I’m not a coffe drinker (Doctor’s orders!) ….I’ll raise my cup of Lipton to the Speaker!!
For those who wondered what the “new” face of the GOP really is….look at what the Tea-baqqers did in Ohio and DC…..nothing’s changed in the GOP….just more of it!!
NRB2
March 23rd, 2010
9:49 am
She steered into passage a bill which will make this country better
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Still waiting for an explanation of HOW this bill makes “the country better”….
Chris D.
March 23rd, 2010
9:49 am
I want Congress to pass a law that they will NOT seek treatment for illnesses any quicker than the general populous. As this bill is fully implemented and healthcare providers become overwhelmed & wait times for services/surgeries increase. (This is basic law of limited, finite supply & increased demand) I want a way to track and make sure these representatives are not going to the head of the line.
Joel Edge
March 23rd, 2010
9:50 am
cosmos
MAL @9:37 —- Good job.
Yes. Thank you for that view into the liberal mind. Do you really believe that this country is better off now? Hopefully, I’ll be dead before this better country comes to fruition. It’s headed for hell in a hand-basket now.
HDB
March 23rd, 2010
9:52 am
@ Chris
March 23rd, 2010
9:46 am
Jay…Don’t really think we were so much more divided during civl rights era.
Son, you just don’t know how divided this nation was!! White Southerners didn’t want any black person to vote, have access to anything they did….or even be recognized as human beings…although black Americans had DIED in the defense of this nation. Add into the process the negativity over the escalation in Vietnam……it was quite an intriguing time period!!
RB from Gwinnett
March 23rd, 2010
9:52 am
Drew, before you go on a public forum and attempt to belittle people who disagree with you, you might want to run YOUR math by an average middle school student and ask them to check it first.
Let me help you for a moment….
You don’t divide the cost of the bill by the total population, you divide it by the people who will be left paying for it. That’s 300MM minus the 32MM it covers. You get about $3,500 per person. The bill doesn’t pay for healthcare for the other 268MM people. You do know that right? The rest of us will still be paying our premiums as we do today AND paying for those “less fortunate” to the tune of $3,500 each.
So, would you like to be the first liberal on this blog to step up and say you’re more than happy to fork over your $3,500 for this worthy cause? You wanted it, surely you’re more than happy to pay for it, right?
This is amazing actually, Not a single damn one of you it willing to own up to what you just mandated. You sit here day after day posting how proud you are of Obama and co. for passing this bill, but not a damn one of you will own up to paying for it?????
How about you, Jay? Man up.
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
9:52 am
“Unless you’re the one at the top”
Nah…they still get derided, they just don’t hear it anymore.
Normal
March 23rd, 2010
9:52 am
It’s headed for hell in a hand-basket now.
Then just enjoy the ride…
NRB2
March 23rd, 2010
9:52 am
So, basically, the cost of ensuring that 95% of Americans have health care is, effectively, $3000 per person per decade
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Except for the fact that if the government projects that something costs $3000, it will in reality cost $12000.
And the issue isn’t even the dollar amount, the issue is responsibility. I’m not responsible for your life. Make your own damn way, lazy bum.
mm
March 23rd, 2010
9:53 am
According to Republicans, women belong in either the bed or the kitchen.
thomas
March 23rd, 2010
9:54 am
jewcowboy
March 23rd, 2010
9:45 am
You are more intellegent and better than that.
By your statement you are either saying 2 wrongs make a right, or that you do think the ends justify the means.
Or are you saying that Dems passed this bill to get even for the other bills you mentioned?
I was not in favor of the medicare part D plan, and as a rule, there have been some exceptions, I am not in favor of many government intrusions into the economic fix type things…..
But I do see what you were doing by attempting to lump me and my comment in with “all the hypocrits” to discredit it. But you need to know some things about your target before you try to discredit them or their posting by trying the old…… but you were fine with this and that but not this because its form a dem. or rep.
I thank you for agreeing that many here are saying the ends justify the means.
jewcowboy
March 23rd, 2010
9:55 am
Bosch,
“Gee, ya’ think?”
The “conservatives” on here seem to take their cues from many in the Republican leadership. After 30 minutes, not ONE right winger on this site has chosen to express distaste for a remark of unadulterated stark hatred.
Of, course these would be the same people yesterday who questioned whether racial and homophobic slurs and salvia were truly hurled at Democrat Reps.
Their silence it quiet illuminating.
getalife
March 23rd, 2010
9:55 am
She has the cons behaving like children because she destroyed their party.
mm
March 23rd, 2010
9:56 am
RB,
I see you are making up your usual BS. Nobody under $200,000 will see a tax increase.
Lie all you want, but it doesn’t change reality.
thomas
March 23rd, 2010
9:56 am
Bosch,
My parents charged me rent for coming home from college.
Seemed like every time I came home the grass needed to be cut and the fence fixed, or weeds pulled.
I can’t wait til my kid gets older, I’m never doing yard work again. He’s 4 now, is 7 too young to let him take over the grounds?
Matilda
March 23rd, 2010
9:58 am
“Nancy lost me when she chose not to address the sexist attacks against Hillary and Sarah during the campaign.”
That statement implies that she might have “had” you at one time, and I’m finding that very hard to believe. In fact, I’m calling BS. That being said, I also was thoroughly disgusted at the sexism toward both Clinton and Palin during the ‘08 campaign. Different sides of the same sexist coin, and it’s not just men doing it. Women seem to take pleasure in being another woman’s worst enemy.
Hmmmmmmm
March 23rd, 2010
9:58 am
Pelosi has long been a designated “Object of Hate” for those on the right, for reasons that frankly escape me.
That’s funny….. I would think that most “things” escape you J….
She is just ANOTHER incompetent politician…. There are too many to count on both sides of the isle… But hey, you people are getting what you voted for, another nail in the coffin, and the funny(sad) thing about all this, is that the same people who are slobbering all over themselves about this bill passing will be the most critical when it proves to be another mistake…. What a JOKE !
USinUK
March 23rd, 2010
9:59 am
“Still waiting for an explanation of HOW this bill makes “the country better”….”
I suggest you pose that question to the people with pre-existing conditions.
Steven Daedalus
March 23rd, 2010
9:59 am
Isn’t great to see all the piggy Republicans, wallowing around whinning and crying, telling lie after lie cause they didn’t get their way.
Mallory
March 23rd, 2010
10:00 am
Political courage is when the feds can keep their grubby paws off the safety nets they legislate. Hellooooo SS! Where have you gone?
Make your Bed
March 23rd, 2010
10:01 am
I raise my cup of coffee to Peloser and then throw it in her face.
Peadawg
March 23rd, 2010
10:03 am
“I see you are making up your usual BS. Nobody under $200,000 will see a tax increase.
Lie all you want, but it doesn’t change reality.”
Then who’s going to foot the 3,500/yr bill for 30 million Americans?
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
10:03 am
“I suggest you pose that question to the people with pre-existing conditions”
Or any who can’t get insurance for any reason.
joan
March 23rd, 2010
10:03 am
Yes, she got it done, and she should be hung for a traitor. You liberals are accusing conservatives of being sexist because they don’t like her. There are a lot more reasons not to like her than her sex. She is a progressive, know it all, doesn’t give a darn what happens to this country, horrible woman. If we were back in 1942, I believe Truman would have dropped a bomb on her.
jewcowboy
March 23rd, 2010
10:03 am
thomas,
“By your statement you are either saying 2 wrongs make a right, or that you do think the ends justify the means.”
No, by my statement, I was pointing out the inherent hypocrisy of acting incensed at something Pelosi did, when Republicans have done the same exact thing without eliciting indignation for the “ends justifying the means.” Where was the indignation then?
“But you need to know some things about your target before you try to discredit them or their posting by trying the old…… ”
If you are not pointing out and condemning all instances of the use if the reconciliation process, you are shading history.
“I thank you for agreeing that many here are saying the ends justify the means.”
I can’t speak to others opinions on here, but I am a BIG fan of using the ends to justify the means (when they are in my favor, of course
)
Chris D.
March 23rd, 2010
10:04 am
HDB – I was referring to the House & Senate only and passage of civil rights law. Which I am old enough to have been around for……Not getting into discourse on the typical Democrat southerners minds at the time….Was stating when the law passed it was passed with far more bipartisan support than the healthcare debate.
jewcowboy
March 23rd, 2010
10:05 am
thomas,
“My parents charged me rent for coming home from college.”
Kind of a d*ck move on their part.
getalife
March 23rd, 2010
10:06 am
Today, you will witness the pictures for the history books as a President finally signs a health care reform bill.
This President is all about making history.
The last one was all about destroying his country.
Yes, we have change.
N-GA
March 23rd, 2010
10:06 am
Jay….Your point about how so many people proclaimed victory over healthcare reform once Scott Brown won is relevent in so many other ways. I think you can see the same thing on this very blog and every other blog topic you’ve introduced for the past few weeks. I’m referring to the chuckles and boasts coming from the right about the upcoming election. They are laughing and backslapping one another in gleeful anticipation of throwing Obama’s congressional supporters out of office.
I think they are a bunch of premature ejac%$#@&=s
Red
March 23rd, 2010
10:06 am
The right continuously vilifies terrifying characters to purport fear among its base. It’s classic totalitarianism. With the Nazi’s, it was the Jews, with the Republicans it’s anyone whose saliva is not pure enough to be considered part of the ‘real America’. The way the right wing is trying to speak for ‘all Americans’ is frankly terrifying, especially when they brashly discard the election process that put the other party in charge- my fear is that this is just the beginning of a new uprising of pissed off white folks that could become violent very quickly.
Richard
March 23rd, 2010
10:07 am
Love to see all these right wingers denouncing Pelosi. She is about the only effective person currently working in Washington. All the right wing hate only confirms her future status as the first great American politician of the 21st century. Give ‘em hell, Nancy.
Doggone/GA
March 23rd, 2010
10:08 am
“Kind of a d*ck move on their part”
Why? My parents charged me rent too, as soon as I got my first real job at age 18.
md
March 23rd, 2010
10:09 am
“I can’t wait til my kid gets older, I’m never doing yard work again.”
Unfortunately, there is a small window of forced labor available, then they leave
Enjoy the kids now, as it goes quick and they are only “home” for 1/4 of their life.
John Birch
March 23rd, 2010
10:10 am
Should have saved the praise until her 70th birthday this Friday. I liked her better when she was destroying Bush’s attempts to fix social security.
HDB
March 23rd, 2010
10:10 am
RB: By reviewing your calculations, you’re speaking of 94 cents a day for ten years…..or a large pack of gum a day!! If that’s the cost, I’ll step up and pay it!! I’ll strengthen the safety net for those who will need it…not for those who aren’t trying!!
We agree that there are abuses in the system that need to be addressed…but we also need to work on making the safety net work for those who need it!!
jewcowboy: I also noted that no one on Fox came out against the Tea Partiers who spit on John Lewis….they better be glad I wasn’t up there..someone would’ve gotten HURT REALLY BAD if they’d spit on me….and no cop would’ve been able to stop my putting a FOOT up somebody’s posterior!!
The Nerve
March 23rd, 2010
10:10 am
The right continuously vilifies terrifying characters to purport fear among its base. It’s classic totalitarianism. With the Nazi’s, it was the Jews, with the Republicans it’s anyone whose saliva is not pure enough to be considered part of the ‘real America’. The way the right wing is trying to speak for ‘all Americans’ is frankly terrifying, especially when they brashly discard the election process that put the other party in charge- my fear is that this is just the beginning of a new uprising of pissed off white folks that could become violent very quickly.
To borrow (or steal) a quote from Bosch, “Oh my freaking God”.
md
March 23rd, 2010
10:12 am
“My parents charged me rent for coming home from college.”
Mine charged rent before I even got out of high school. Job at 13, bills at 14. Best real world lesson I ever had.
Hmmmmmmm
March 23rd, 2010
10:12 am
Richard,
I hope your not old enough to vote…… The first great American politician of the 21st century! You have to be a product of public education….. Good Grief man, GET A GRIP!
TaxPayer
March 23rd, 2010
10:12 am
A true conservative would combine the bedroom and the kitchen, as a birthday present for the missus. I hear that’s what Mark Sanford did. Or something like that.