A cup of coffee raised in tribute to Speaker Pelosi

In the wake of Scott Brown’s victory in Massachusetts, health-insurance reform was widely proclaimed as a hopeless cause. As recently as January, to cite just one example of many, Washington überhack Fred Barnes was chortling that “the health care bill, ObamaCare, is dead with not the slightest prospect of resurrection.”

Nancy Pelosi accepts the speaker's gavel from John Boehner in 2007, becoming the first woman ever to hold that post.

Nancy Pelosi accepts the speaker's gavel from John Boehner in 2007, becoming the first woman ever to hold that post.

Reading through various accounts of its resurrection, I’ve been struck by the importance of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. After the loss of Ted Kennedy’s seat, it was Pelosi who blew off White House suggestions to “go small” and seek small victories. And it was the speaker from San Francisco who instilled discipline into a notoriously undisciplined Democratic caucus and rounded up the votes needed for Sunday’s unlikely triumph.

“Just think,” she said from the House floor Sunday night, once success was assured, “we will be joining those who have established Social Security, Medicare and now, tonight, health care for all Americans.”

My favorite quote about Pelosi’s impact, culled from the New York Daily News, came from Democratic political strategist Mark Siegel:

“She’s Lyndon Johnson in a skirt. She was patient, tireless, persistent and cajoling – and she pulled off what no one else could.”

Pelosi has long been a designated “Object of Hate” for those on the right, for reasons that frankly escape me. All you had to do was flash a picture of her on the screen at a conservative political gathering and you could feel the room recoil. This historic success will no doubt cement that standing. And while the Republicans certainly will try to use health care as a lever to pry Pelosi from the speaker’s podium, they will find it almost impossible to undo the legislation itself.

So in this, National Women’s History Month, let’s raise a cup of morning coffee to Speaker Pelosi: She got it done. Let’s also take a sip in the hope that years from now, we may read about some hard-nosed male legislative leader who, fresh off a major success, is labeled “Pelosi in long pants.”

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TnGelding

March 23rd, 2010
8:08 am

If not for her ineptness it wouldn’t have come to this. She should have been replaced at the beginning of this Congress, as should Reid. I don’t see history being kind ot her.

JDW

March 23rd, 2010
8:08 am

Whatever you think of her you have to salute the accomplishment.

JohnnyReb

March 23rd, 2010
8:10 am

Peadawg

March 23rd, 2010
8:13 am

“we will be joining those who have established Social Security, Medicare”

You forgot the wonderful Medicaid. That’s not a very good to be proud of though… That’s like saying a baseball player will be remember with the likes of Bonds, Clemens, McGuire, and Sosa. Yikes!

jt

March 23rd, 2010
8:13 am

Steny Hoyer wears a dress in private.

Doggone/GA

March 23rd, 2010
8:14 am

“Pelosi has long been a designated “Object of Hate” for those on the right, for reasons that frankly escape me”

It doesn’t escape me. She’s hated because she “doesn’t know her place.” Strong women are anethema to conservative men, and to too many conservative women as well.

Peadawg

March 23rd, 2010
8:14 am

I wonder how much pork is really in this bill. It seems she had to do A LOT of bribing of her own party to get this passed….

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
8:14 am

“Pelosi has long been a designated “Object of Hate” for those on the right, for reasons that frankly escape me”

psssst … she’s a Dem and a girl. That’s 2 strikes right there.

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
8:15 am

Doggone – I second your emotion at 8:14

Doggone/GA

March 23rd, 2010
8:15 am

“she’s a Dem and a girl. That’s 2 strikes right there”

Yep, that too.

Mick

March 23rd, 2010
8:16 am

It’s easy to criticize sitting on the sidelines or from the audience. Pelosi can seem shrill at times but there is no doubt that behind the scenes, she knows how to get it done and get the votes she and the dems need. My hats off to her for her skill navigating the treacherous waters of the house.

ty webb

March 23rd, 2010
8:17 am

ah yes, it’s sexism…or racism…or gayism…blah blah blah. And again, I have no quotes or links.

SOUTHERN ATL

March 23rd, 2010
8:20 am

I’ll drink to that!

RW-(the original)

March 23rd, 2010
8:21 am

Jay B calling someone an überhack? Talk about your ultimate pot/kettle moment.

/drive by

stands for decibels

March 23rd, 2010
8:22 am

let’s raise a cup of morning coffee to Speaker Pelosi: She got it done.

My thoughts exactly, watching her speak before the House on Sunday night. I realize that I hardly ever allow myself to hear her outside of the filter of corporate media’s soundbites.

I thought back to a hideous, POS article in a magazine I used to subscribe to, The New Republic, that slammed her back in the day when she’d first been considered as a Dem. house leader. The gist of the article — as was the case so often with that spineless, apologetic gang of go-along-to-get-along DINOs–was that she was just too gosh-darned progressive and, by implication, threw like a girl. Or something like that.

Point is it’s not just knuckle dragging Goopers she had to fight, but sexist Conservadems in her midst.

Anyway, thanks to Jay for posting something I was thinking, yet again.

Shawny

March 23rd, 2010
8:22 am

Yes, raise that cup of coffee to the woman that rammed through legislation that the American people do not want. ReaClear average:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html

Recent CNN poll:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/22/rel5a.pdf

Nice. We don’t want it. Put it in anyway.
DO NOT CONFUSE not wanting this particular bill with not wanting healthcare reform. That is a dem sleight of hand trick. We want healthcare reform. Just not this bad bill.

Congrats Nancy. See you in November.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 23rd, 2010
8:25 am

Well, thanks a lot, Bookman. I just upchucked my breakfast. There ought to be a law against showing a picture of this Pelousy woman without giving a warning first.

It’s bad enough we got shafted and had being against the HC bill shoved up where the sun don’t shine. But by a woman too? That just makes it hurt worse.

Anyhow, we’re going to sue her man’s trousers off. We ain’t taking this setting down. It’s Unconstitutional to make everybody buy health insurance. I mean, this ain’t like everybody having to buy auto insurance because we come up with the auto insurance law to keep from having to pay out money on account of people that don’t have it and run into us. That’s diffrent from having to pay out money in taxes and insurance premiums for people that don’t have health insurance and get sick and can’t pay. I can’t hardly explain it here, but I’m sure one of our godly Republican reps can explain it. Anyhow, it ain’t my job to explain it.

Anyhow, we’re going to sue and that’s all there is to it. No uppity woman is going to make us do what we don’t want to do. And if we don’t win, well, I say we just secede and form the Southren States of America. Where everybody can walk around scrounging for theirself and doing without things like food and water and housing and medical care if they don’t work to make the money to pay for them.

Have a good day everybody.

AmVet

March 23rd, 2010
8:25 am

Uber hack Fred Barnes? Now THAT is funny.

Just the sight of him is laughable.

I wouldn’t trust him, Krystol, Krauthammer or any of those other buffoons with the simplest task.

They could screw up taking the garbage out.

Never done nothings, never beens, never wills telling everybody how much they think they know.

And the faithful slobber it up…

stands for decibels

March 23rd, 2010
8:25 am

she’s a Dem and a girl. That’s 2 strikes right there.

Thanks for reminding every progressive out there who permits himself[1] to fantasize that maybe, just maybe, if Hillary had won, the usual gang of idiots would be any nicer to “the b!tch” than they are to the “half-N!gg3r.”

Later, kids.

————

1) the “himself” was deliberate, I doubt any sentient women would believe such a thing.

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
8:26 am

“ah yes, it’s sexism…or racism…or gayism…blah blah blah. And again, I have no quotes or links.”

considering the majority of derisive comments we hear from the right are about her being “shrill” or ugly/over-botoxed, calling her a “hag” and a b1tch … yep … the charge of sexism is appropriate.

Doggone/GA

March 23rd, 2010
8:28 am

USinUK…and they underestimate the power of a mother/grand-mother on a mission!

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
8:28 am

dB – 8:25 – all I have to say to that is remember the “Iron my shirt” sign from Hillary’s campaign.

anyone who thinks sexism is dead is in serious denial

Normal

March 23rd, 2010
8:29 am

USinUK and Doggone…clearly two great cosmic minds…and I agree with both of them.

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
8:30 am

Doggone – 8:28 – they ALWAYS underestimate the power of women – full stop.

a woman with a mission is not a thing to be trifled with – we’ve got things to do, so you’d best get on board or get the hell out of the way.

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
8:30 am

Hey Normal! have you been planning an epic easter egg hunt for the mini-Normals?

Doggone/GA

March 23rd, 2010
8:31 am

“we’ve got things to do, so you’d best get on board or get the hell out of the way”

I like it!

Peadawg

March 23rd, 2010
8:34 am

FinnMcCool

March 23rd, 2010
8:34 am

Plus, Pelosi is H-O-T, hot!

Brad Steel

March 23rd, 2010
8:35 am

She’s been designated an “Object of Hate” because the Misogyny Object goes so well with the shiny, self-loathing, suggestive Homophobe Object which is a perfect complement to the whitey-white, blanched Bigotry Object in the conservatives’ menagerie of Hate.

jt

March 23rd, 2010
8:37 am

Prime Minister George Grenville and his be-wigged, powdered, and perfumed cronies ALSO drank a toast upon passage of the Stamp Act back in 1765, in March. Although it was probably stout or tea.

This act would solve all of their money problems.

They were happy and old King George was happy.

Salude.

Joel Edge

March 23rd, 2010
8:38 am

” for reasons that frankly escape me”
No big surprise there.

Normal

March 23rd, 2010
8:38 am

USinUK,
Easter egg hunt? That pagan ritual? You betcha!
Before the hunt though, I’m doing something a little different. I have 16 (one for each grandkid and great grand kid) mums plants that they will plant in our front garden. They will be their flowers and everytime they visit, they can see how much they’ve grown and such. I figure a little botany lesson with a conservation bent can’t hurt.
Then, on with the hunt!

Peadawg

March 23rd, 2010
8:40 am

“Plus, Pelosi is H-O-T, hot!”

What is h-o-t- about skin and bones? She could use a hamburger or 2.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo!

March 23rd, 2010
8:40 am

Look at this total garbage, these people know that Nasty Pelosi is a goner come November so they are trying to hang this obomination around her neck, instead of obozo’s.

plot and scheme, Bookman, plot and scheme.

Was this your idea or did the DNC feed it to you?

Normal

March 23rd, 2010
8:41 am

Brad Steel

March 23rd, 2010
8:35 am

Brad, while I agree with you, don’t try saying that three times real fast…you will sprain your tongue! :D

RB from Gwinnett

March 23rd, 2010
8:41 am

I’m still waiting for a single one of you liberals to tell me how much of YOUR money you’re willing to fork over every year so these poor unfortunate souls can have free healthcare. How about you Jay? How much do you think you should have to pay? Or do you all think only evil rich people should have to pay? Is that it?

I’ll help you dumbarses with the math since you don’t seem to be very bright. The bill comes to $3,500 per man woman and child beyond the 32MM being paid for. For every retiree with no job or kid under working age, their $3,500 has to be covered by somebody else. How about you Jay? Are you willing to pay your $3,500 and pick up somebody elses for $7,000?

I’d like to see just one of you fools post on here you’re more than happy to pay your $3,500 bill and maybe take on your kids or grandkids share for $7k or $10.5k. Just one who thinks it’s well worth your money for everybody to have healthcare. Anybody?

Normal

March 23rd, 2010
8:42 am

I don’t know about Peadawg, but strong willed women make me stand up and salute…

Gale

March 23rd, 2010
8:42 am

Doggone @ 8:14 My sentiment exactly. I had nearly those same thoughts. She is a woman with power. Flash a photo of Hillary Clinto at the same crowd and you will see the same reaction.

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
8:44 am

Normal – 8:38 – sounds like a fantastic Easter afternoon! I’m sure all the little ones will have a great time …

… and then the spiral-sliced HAM!!

Scooter

March 23rd, 2010
8:45 am

Plus, Pelosi is H-O-T, hot!

Thanks for making me chuck my breakfast Finn. Whew!

RB, I'll tell'ya how much of MY money....

March 23rd, 2010
8:45 am

#1 Foxy Lady says:

SUCK IT, LOSER!!!

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
8:46 am

“I’m still waiting for a single one of you liberals to tell me how much of YOUR money you’re willing to fork over every year so these poor unfortunate souls can have free healthcare”

blahblahblah … I’m still waiting to hear from all the Conservatives how much of THEIR money they’re willing to send to the DoD to pay for all the $800 toilet seats and $500 wrenches – not to mention 2 wars that stayed off the books for 5 years …

pat

March 23rd, 2010
8:47 am

Nasty Pelosi is stupidity incarnate. I have seen steaming piles of dog crap with more intelligence. The shoved a bill through that does not have the support of the American people. When the government goes directly against the will of the people that’s a problem. The good news, 10 states filing law suits, before the ink dries. This is a good thing, the constitutionality of this garbage has to be questioned. Don’t get all mad about it, this is checks and balances. Mandates are unconstitutional, you cannot be forced to purchase something because you were born.

Blue

March 23rd, 2010
8:47 am

Doggone GA; yeah, it’s because she is a woman in power that I dislike her. Couldn’t have ANYTHING to do with her socialist views and politics. Yeah…that HAS to be it. Were you on the debate team?

ty webb

March 23rd, 2010
8:49 am

You’ll need another excuse for victimhood there UsinUk. The whole “iron my shirt” incident was a radio stunt(no, not that evil talk radio, but FM). The same guys pulled it on Martha Burke when she was protesting Augusta National(heaven on earth) for not admitting women members. They were on in atlanta in the early 2000’s but have since relocated to the boston area. But let’s not let that get in the way of calling people sexist…or racist…or homophobes…rah rah!

Bosch

March 23rd, 2010
8:49 am

I’ll drink to Pelosi too. Whoever said up there that she is hated cause she just doesn’t know her place, I think that pretty much sums it up.

Normal

March 23rd, 2010
8:49 am

Lot’s of good manners going on here, very Christian, just sayin’

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
8:50 am

“whole “iron my shirt” incident was a radio stunt”

ohhhhhh … so, radio stunts are, by definition, NOT sexist.

:roll:

TaxPayer

March 23rd, 2010
8:50 am

I’m glad to see that Speaker Pelosi has finally made her mark. Boehner, et al, will just have to get their pants dry-cleaned if they cannot handle that dose of trickle-down policy, Democrat-style. Salud.

Joel Edge

March 23rd, 2010
8:51 am

USinUK
Just to make you feel better. We going save a bit of Bush caused debt here.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,589769,00.html?test=latestnews

This administrations not gonna prosecute this killer. That’ll save a few bucks. Feel better now?

Gale

March 23rd, 2010
8:53 am

Hey Normal, Do you think any of the mini-normals will catch on to adding fertilizer to their mum so it grows faster and bigger than a cousin mum?

AmVet

March 23rd, 2010
8:54 am

pat, I would have to go back and look, but I suppose the Civil Rights Act of 1964 also did not have the “support of the American people”.

Waiting forever, and in vain, for reactionaries and the close-minded to get on board is not an option sometimes….

Donovan

March 23rd, 2010
8:54 am

Heaping praise upon Pelosi is like giving praise to Mussolini for keeping the trains running on time. Bookman’s logic of immortalizing Pelosi is as incomprehensible as the Democrat Party’s agenda of ruining this country.

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
8:55 am

“This administrations not gonna prosecute this killer”

uh, no. that’s not quite the story here … “.S. District Judge James Robertson granted Slahi’s petition for habeas corpus, effectively finding the government lacked legal grounds to hold him. The order was classified, although the court said it planned to release a redacted public version in the coming weeks”

nice try, but serious flail.

ty webb

March 23rd, 2010
8:55 am

Nevermind, from now on, I’m taking one out of the progressive’s playbook. Anyone who disagrees with me is guilty of handsomeism, smartism, wittyism, and general badassism.

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
8:56 am

AmVet – “Waiting forever, and in vain, for reactionaries and the close-minded to get on board is not an option sometimes”

now is ALWAYS the time to do what’s right.

RB from Gwinnett

March 23rd, 2010
8:56 am

“DoD to pay for all the $800 toilet seats and $500 wrenches”

I”m sure they’ll do sooooooooooooooooo much better managing our healthcare fool. FYI, there are millions in waste and fraud savings in the dreamt up number this bill presents that count on them being able to eliminate $800 toilet seats etc. We all know they can’t and won’t eliminate that waste becuase they aren’t that smart. And you don’t need this bill to eliminate the waste. We’ve been debating this bill for a year now. How much of that waste have they eliminated during that time? Or were they waiting for the bill to pass so they could hire a few thousand IRS agents to look for waste?

You still didn’t answer the question. Are you ok paying your part of the bill or not?

Swami Dave

March 23rd, 2010
8:57 am

Interesting.

After reading the entries, it would seem that most conservatives are addressing their specific issues with the bill. It would seem to be the liberal shills who are making issues about her gender as their convinced reason that she has opposition.

I find it sad that she was able to pass legislation that enacts theft as a legal instrument. I find it unfortunate that she (and her fellow collectivists) have declared a right (healthcare) that does not exist and that they cannot grant. I find it a cause for sorry that too many Americans are so willing to expect Washington and politicians to do for them (with the confiscated earnings of the fellow citizens) what they should do for themselves. Unfortunately, too many Americans are willing to accept the insidious spread of dependence instead of expecting individuals to take responsiblity for their own lives and advancement.

In the end, she, like all liberals, simply did with legislation what thieves do with crowbars and guns. She deserves no more respect than any other thief.

-SD

Gale

March 23rd, 2010
8:57 am

Keep thinking that ty. A strong self image is healthy, (or psychotic, it depends.)

Chris

March 23rd, 2010
8:58 am

Nancy Pelosi is my hero, and contrary to assertions to the likes of Donovan, this country is and will continue to be better off because she sat in the Speaker’s chair.

Joel Edge

March 23rd, 2010
8:58 am

USinUK
Paint it any way you want.

Southern Comfort (Warum Amerikaner so böse die ganze Zeit sind?)

March 23rd, 2010
8:58 am

AmV

I’d be willing to back you on that 1964 statement. I could probably find pictures of burned and hanging bodies to support that theory too. Not to mention those who were beaten, shot, and subject to random sticks of dynamite going off nearby.

The Nerve

March 23rd, 2010
8:58 am

So if I disagree with Harry Reid’s politicss then let’s see…he’s a white male, I’m a white male….so I guess that just makes me just a plain ole hater. But then I am not sexist or racist so I guess that’s better. Oh wait, he’s older than me. That’s ageism. Darn.

Is disagreeing with Sarah Palin sexist? What about Michael Steele? If you don’t agree with his politics are you a racist? Or just a hater? I’m confused.

FinnMcCool

March 23rd, 2010
8:59 am

Biden/Pelosi 2016

Normal

March 23rd, 2010
9:00 am

Gale @ 8:53,
No way. The older Grand kids will over see the planting. My two oldest have their own child and they will plant side by side, you know, mother daughter and mother son. The rest will be around those.
But definitely no chemicals, only totally as Mother Nature intended…

Doggone/GA

March 23rd, 2010
9:00 am

“Doggone GA; yeah, it’s because she is a woman in power that I dislike her. Couldn’t have ANYTHING to do with her socialist views and politics”

You need to learn the difference between a reason and an excuse.

Tax target

March 23rd, 2010
9:00 am

She (and the WH) got it done alright — in my 50 plus years I don’t recall this country ever being so divided….

Jay

March 23rd, 2010
9:00 am

So Donovan, Pelosi=Mussolini in a skirt?

If so, what do you think we should do with her?

I mean, I know what they did to Mussolini. It wasn’t pretty.

Normal

March 23rd, 2010
9:02 am

Finn, make that Pelosi/Biden and I’m there. Old Joe would accidently open his mouth and we’d be in another war…

FinnMcCool

March 23rd, 2010
9:02 am

Swami, still pissed there were no handouts for the rich in the HC bill.

Somebody throw Swami a frikkin tax cut, pronto! Before he has a full meltdown!

AmVet

March 23rd, 2010
9:02 am

USinUK, thanks for the response.

I am not at all sure that this is the right thing to do. I have grave concerns about this legislation.

BUT, as much as they loathe the name it is completely accurate – the GOP is in fact The Party of No.

Need yet more evidence? Yesterday’s banking committee vote on banking reform?

ALL 13 republicans voted no.

They are a) seemingly against any and all changes/progress and b) they have lockstep loyalty that even the Mafia would be proud of.

And many, many, many Americans are finally aware of this mentality and fed up with them…

Peadawg

March 23rd, 2010
9:03 am

“in my 50 plus years I don’t recall this country ever being so divided….”

Maybe the WH should take a hint then…ya think?

Jay

March 23rd, 2010
9:03 am

Tax Target, we were much more divided back in the civil rights/Vietnam era.

Peadawg

March 23rd, 2010
9:04 am

Let’s move onto to immigration reform, getting people back to work, and regulating those greedy a-holes on Wall Street.

It's a Dog eat Dawg world

March 23rd, 2010
9:04 am

Boehner and company found out the hard way that you don’t want to upset an alpha female. Sanford and Richardson had to learn that lesson the hard way too. Republicans! Will they ever learn.

Doggone/GA

March 23rd, 2010
9:04 am

“So if I disagree with Harry Reid’s politicss then let’s see”

No one has said anything about disagreeing with Pelosi’s politics. Jay specifically mentioned her as an object of HATRED. That is WAY, WAY beyond disagreeing with her politics.

Doggone/GA

March 23rd, 2010
9:05 am

“Tax Target, we were much more divided back in the civil rights/Vietnam era”

AMEN! I was just about to ask TT how old he is, because I can SURE remember very divisive times in MY lifetime.

Gale

March 23rd, 2010
9:06 am

Tax Target, You don’t remember Viet Nam? The country was seriously divided over that. Maybe you are having a grey moment?

I do think it was going a bit too far to compare Pelosi to Johnson though. However, given the same Representative makeup, it might be fair. We would need to know if she swears a blue streak in private.

Joel Edge

March 23rd, 2010
9:06 am

“we were much more divided back in the civil rights/Vietnam era.”
Dear Lord!!

AmVet

March 23rd, 2010
9:06 am

SoCo, I just find that argument outdated and pathetic.

Especially in light of the fact that these are the very people who put into office a Bush who took the tiniest of electoral margins and said he had a “mandate”.

The Mossback Party has met the enemy, and it is themselves…

joe matarotz

March 23rd, 2010
9:07 am

The best thing about Pelosi is that sooner or later (hopefully sooner) she will be out of office.

Southern Comfort (Warum Amerikaner so böse die ganze Zeit sind?)

March 23rd, 2010
9:07 am

After reading the entries, it would seem that most conservatives are addressing their specific issues with the bill. It would seem to be the liberal shills who are making issues about her gender as their convinced reason that she has opposition.

You obviously need to re-read the entries. Either that, or I’m giving conservatives more people here than are actually conservative. I counted two entries that relate to specifics on the bill, Shawny @ 8:22 and RB @ 8:41. Other than that, all I see is vitriol. Maybe I should put on my rose-colored glasses this morning or something.

Anyways, you lost credibility on that one after that 1st paragraph. Had you said some instead of most, I’d agree with you. And it seems as if your post is pretty vague itself in its attack. I don’t see any specific provisions in your post.

But what do I know about healthcare, I do immigration for a living.

Peadawg

March 23rd, 2010
9:10 am

The Nerve, how dare to not disagree w/ Pelosi or Obama’s policies!!!!! This is outrageous. This is the first time in over 200 years that someone has disagreed w/ the President’s policies. Treason I tell you, treason!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!

MaJo

March 23rd, 2010
9:10 am

Bookman calling someone else a hack. That’s too funny.

Southern Comfort (Warum Amerikaner so böse die ganze Zeit sind?)

March 23rd, 2010
9:10 am

AmV

Don’t forget about the people speaking with 3-4 recent elections. I think there’s a new mandate coming in November. (chuckle)

TaxPayer

March 23rd, 2010
9:10 am

The Republican party’s behavior (as the party of no), as the minority party, was predictable, as I recall from a story I read over at fivethirtyeight dot commmmmmm some time back.

Doggone/GA

March 23rd, 2010
9:10 am

“The Nerve, how dare to not disagree w/ Pelosi or Obama’s policies”

Where has anyone said you can’t disagree with their politics?

cosmos

March 23rd, 2010
9:10 am

Kudos to Nancy Pelosi for getting the job done on health care reform. It’s not a prefect bill but has a lot of good points in it. You repubs can forget about a repeal of this bill. After most American see what is actually in the bill instead of hearing the lies and distortions they will be happy with it. The haters will never stop their b1tching. Compared to her predecessor, Dennis Hasert, Pelosi has done a terrific job in the face of all the obstructionism.

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
9:11 am

Joel – 8:58 – okay. I choose to “paint” it based on the facts.

feel free to “paint” it based on a biased view of the universe if you want, but just know that that doesn’t make it right.

RB – “”m sure they’ll do sooooooooooooooooo much better managing our healthcare fool”

fercryingoutloud – when will you people realize that the same companies that are currently managing your health care will STILL be managing your health care after this is signed into law?

Peadawg

March 23rd, 2010
9:11 am

“Jay specifically mentioned her as an object of HATRED. That is WAY, WAY beyond disagreeing with her politics.”

So would you like her if she was a Republican? I know I would.

pat

March 23rd, 2010
9:11 am

Here ya go AmVet….Incorrect, out side of the south of course.
Interesting tid bit..
“The Republican Party was not so badly split as the Democrats by the civil rights issue. Only one Republican senator participated in the filibuster against the bill. In fact, since 1933, Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the twenty-six major civil rights votes since 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 % of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 % of the votes.”

http://www.congresslink.org/print_basics_histmats_civilrights64text.htm

By January 1964, public opinion had started to change – 68% now supported a meaningful civil rights act. President Johnson signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act in July of that year. It introduced:

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/1964_civil_rights_act.htm

The governement should not trump the will of the people, ever. It’s supposed to be our country, not theirs.

Peadawg

March 23rd, 2010
9:12 am

“Where has anyone said you can’t disagree with their politics?”

According to you, it’s hatred.

arnold

March 23rd, 2010
9:12 am

Nancy Pelosi did her job and did it well. I’d want her on my side at all times.

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
9:14 am

“Need yet more evidence? Yesterday’s banking committee vote on banking reform? ALL 13 republicans voted no.”

and nary a peep from them what calls themselves T-e-a-B-a-g-g-e-r-s

… shocking, that …

Southern Comfort (Warum Amerikaner so böse die ganze Zeit sind?)

March 23rd, 2010
9:16 am

Let’s get on to immigration, so I can shoot down all the BS!!!

RB from Gwinnett

March 23rd, 2010
9:17 am

Doggie, the problem is that YOU aren’t smart enough to understand what Jay just did to YOU. Jay can post anything he wants to post about what we on the other side think, but YOU need to understand that’s just Jay’s opinion which rarely has anything to do with the truth. But because Jay posted it, you’re assuming it’s fact. The rest of us are trying to tell you we don’t like Pelosi because of her socialist politics and underhanded approach to enacting this bill that mort American didn’t want. And you apparently aren’t smart enough to figure that out.

Doggone/GA

March 23rd, 2010
9:18 am

“So would you like her if she was a Republican?”

It wouldn’t matter. Democrat or Republican, I don’t know her personally so I can’t say if I would “like” her or not. I don’t base my opinion of what she has done on whether I “like” her ornot.

ty webb

March 23rd, 2010
9:19 am

the nerve,
Didn’t you get the memo? It really is simple.
Palin- really is “dumb”, not sexism.
Steele- really is a “sellout”, not racism.
Clarence Thomas- really is an “uncle tom”, not racism.
conservatives- “racist, homophobe, sexist, bigots”
liberals/progressives-”speak truth to power”
conservatives-”Party of NO”
liberals/Progressives- “patriotic dissenters”
yada yada yada.

Doggone/GA

March 23rd, 2010
9:19 am

“According to you, it’s hatred”

Please quote me back where I ever said any such thing.

USinUK

March 23rd, 2010
9:19 am

SoCo – 9:16 – fire it up …