McCain issues whining: ‘”There will be no cooperation for the rest of the year’
“There will be no cooperation for the rest of the year. They have poisoned the well in what they’ve done and how they’ve done it.”
– U.S. Sen. John McCain. R-AZ
So having lost, Johnny and his angry friends are going to take their ball and go home. Petulance will take precedence over the best interests of the country. The Party of No is announcing its intention to become the Party of Hell No. With a heavy and quite important agenda yet ahead — financial regulation, immigration, long-term solutions to our budget problems, the economy — “there will be no cooperation for the rest of the year.”
Well, let’s see how that sits with the American people who pay their salary.
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NowReally
March 22nd, 2010
3:58 pm
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2010
2:26 pm
If you can believe in the “Right to LIFE” of a fetus, it’s almost biblical that you would believe that healthcare is a necessity to substain that right to LIFE.
Parents are punished for not seeking treatment of a child that is sick. If I didn’t seek treatment for my child, you people would send me to the death chamber. There was a case that the conservatives held dearly, just last year, when a family decided not to continue to seek treatment for their terminally ill son. The christian right (usually republicans) faught for Terri Shivo (sp) for dear life, but of course she had medical insurance.
Where does the right to life start and where does it end? I say the republicans believe it starts in the womb and ends at the BANK. LOL
Midori
March 22nd, 2010
4:00 pm
hi Bosch!!
kayaker 71
March 22nd, 2010
4:00 pm
McCain is not the only pissed off member of the electorate. Even the MSNBC poll today from a liberal news organization shows that over 65% of Americans are angry about the passage of this fiasco and only 27% are pleased with it. Bozo and the Demos aren’t listening. Maybe the results of the November election will improve their hearing.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
4:01 pm
jewcowboy@ 3:54,
For real?
TGT
March 22nd, 2010
4:02 pm
From Jay Cost:
Liberal commentators are comparing the passage of ObamaCare to other landmark pieces of legislation – like Social Security and Medicare. I agree that in the provision of social welfare, this bill ranks nearly as high. But when you examine how the welfare is provided – it is strikingly inferior. Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson made use of an ingenious social insurance system – promoting the idea that we all pay in today to take out tomorrow. It was consistent with American individualism. It was simple. It was intuitive. It was bipartisan.
Obama’s new system has none of those virtues. It’s an impenetrable labyrinth of new taxes, benefits, and regulations, passed on the narrowest of possible majorities with more than 10% of the Democratic caucus joining every Republican. Even Wile E. Coyote would be embarrassed by its inefficiencies.
Still, the thought among its proponents at the moment is that the legislation, once enacted, cannot be repealed. It will have the benefit of our system’s strong “status quo bias.” …
The status quo bias is a very real thing, and it makes the Republican efforts to modify or repeal challenging. The GOP must control the entire government by January, 2013 to enact major changes to the legislation. By then, the thinking goes among proponents, those with a personal stake in preserving the legislation will be in place to protect it, just as seniors have been on guard against raids on Social Security.
Yet it’s not that simple. The Democrats crammed a $2 trillion bill into a $1 trillion package by delaying the distribution of most benefits for four years, until 2014. This creates two major political vulnerabilities for ObamaCare.
The first is an imbalance between winners and losers through the next two elections. Harold Lasswell defined politics as who gets what, when, and how. By this metric, ObamaCare is bad politics for the foreseeable future. Like any major piece of legislation, this bill assigns winners and losers. The winners will be those who today are uninsured, but who will (eventually) acquire insurance. But there will not be a major reduction in the uninsured until 2014. So, the actual winners are going to be pretty few in number for some time.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
4:02 pm
Pogo,
“Only Iggy is much smarter and has the self respect not to inject himself with facial preservatives.”
Yeah, it’s pretty obvious that he and Keith Richards didn’t get into the plastic surgery.
md
March 22nd, 2010
4:02 pm
“FYI…. a womans right to choose after conception is also an option (since you say she had a choice to open her legs). Why should she be forced to follow your rules?”
I said nothing about my rules, just stated a fact. It boils down to excuses and bad choices, like most everything in life.
M Percy
March 22nd, 2010
4:02 pm
AmVet “Every single US Representative who voted against the bill should be required to forfeit their GOLD plated plan.”
Every single US Representative who voted *for* the bill should be required to forfeit their GOLD plated plan in favor of going into the pools with the rest of us and living with what they have wrought.
Looking forward to the whirlwind, although my faith in the citizenry is sorely tested now.
FinnMcCool
March 22nd, 2010
4:04 pm
1. healthcare reform – check
2. immigration reform – next on the docket
3. take away everyones guns – we should get to this by August
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:06 pm
Bosch,
The lesbians trapped her in the restroom…or at least that is what she claimed.
http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/2005/07/micheles-shifting-accounts-of.html
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:07 pm
“Yeah, it’s pretty obvious that he and Keith Richards didn’t get into the plastic surgery.”
They just embalmed themselves with other means.
Rightwing Troll
March 22nd, 2010
4:08 pm
Millions of free speech dollars spent by consumer friendly capitalist corporations to sway legislation. What’s your objection?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo!
March 22nd, 2010
4:08 pm
Bush, bush, bush, rove, rove, rove, mccain, mccain, mccain, blah, blah, blah.
Meanwhile, real damage being done……
chirp, chirp, chirp, just sayin….
retiredds
March 22nd, 2010
4:08 pm
Finn McCool: your # 3 is not even on this President’s radar. The NRA, in its fund raising over the last 25 years, have been using that line. That’s the way they can pump up gun and ammo sales. Oh, and I almost forgot, get their members to keep sending those $$$$$$$ coming in.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2010
4:08 pm
Midori: “I’ve yet to see the “truth””
Truer words were never written.
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:09 pm
FinnMcCool @ 4.04
Where is mandatory dog/man marriages and forced veganism?
Rightwing Troll
March 22nd, 2010
4:09 pm
Finn,
You left out “redistribution of wealth” on your list.
NowReally
March 22nd, 2010
4:10 pm
You didn’t state a fact, you made an assumption, that the woman seeking an abortion had a choice to open her legs. There are many women who did not and do not have that option today. I guess rape is an excuse and a bad choice, like most everything in life.
— I’m positive I will regrett opening up that can of worms—–
Midori
March 22nd, 2010
4:12 pm
especially when reading your tirades, Dave.
AmVet
March 22nd, 2010
4:12 pm
MPercy, you’re right the weasels should all be required to go to the back of the bus with the rest of us. Regardless of their votes…
md
March 22nd, 2010
4:13 pm
How come there are no defenders of the $88000 threshold and that “redistribution of wealth”? Where are all the cases for that threshold of the “poor”.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
4:13 pm
Finn,
And you left out the ribbon cutting cermony for the newly designed gulags!
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2010
4:15 pm
Before you claimed you couldn’t scroll past them fast enough, Midori, and now you claim to read them.
Which is it? Perhaps just another liberal lie?
md
March 22nd, 2010
4:16 pm
” you made an assumption, that the woman seeking an abortion had a choice to open her legs. There are many women who did not and do not have that option today. I guess rape is an excuse and a bad choice, like most everything in life.”
Last I checked, rape was not a choice, so you are reaching with that one.
Do you contend that a woman does not choose to open her legs (outside of rape)? And why?
We choose everything we do – and that includes making excuses.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2010
4:16 pm
The polarization has just begun. Both sides banked their all on it. It passed by a mere 7 votes. The winners are not being humble in victory. The losers are not being gracious in defeat.The prediction that November should be a bell weather is true. The voters, the majority of whom are absolutely fed up with these shennanigans and incivility that they will 1) stay away from the polls in droves or 2) throw the b*stards of both parties out or 3) accept the status quo and keep kvetching. We’ll see. But whatever happens we’re in for a tour on the Fifth Circle of Dante’s “Inferno.”
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2010
4:17 pm
NowReally, you didn’t even come close to answering my question. You did what is commonly called misdirection.
Tell me, how is something (such as health care) a “right” when it requires the active participation of another?
@@
March 22nd, 2010
4:18 pm
jewcowboy:
Unlike the Scientologists, tithe is not mandated by my church. It is encouraged and if given, given freely in the interest of others outside our church. It doesn’t cost me thousands of dollars to progress to some acceptable level of “thetanism.”
To each his own though.
This is an excellent read on Massachusetts health care.
Some people who need care will always be left out. Because the building blocks of Massachusetts coverage are disjointed, people still seek treatment at the state’s safety net hospitals and emergency rooms, which wasn’t supposed to happen as people became insured. The Globe just reported that more people are seeking care in emergency rooms, and that the cost of treating them increased by 17 percent from 2005 to 2007, a period that includes two years covered by the law. The problem, it seems, is more complicated than simply mandating insurance coverage.
And any system based on financial eligibility holds an incentive for enforced poverty. If people try to earn more money because they need it, they get bumped into a higher tier in the state’s subsidized coverage and either their cost sharing goes up or they lose coverage altogether. They must choose between earning more money or losing subsidized insurance. NBC Nightly News briefly mentioned the problem, reporting on a clarinetist with the Boston Ballet orchestra who took a semester teaching job, earned more money, and lost his insurance. Its reporting should have gone much further. As the Financial Times reported last July in a package on the ailing U.S. health system, enforced poverty is a Catch-22.
jay’s has once again devolved to a level of juvenile silliness. Nothing to be learned here.
I’m out.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2010
4:18 pm
Hi, josef! How were your little minions today?
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:21 pm
“Where are all the cases for that threshold of the “poor”.”
Perhaps there is confusion between “poor” and “struggling.”
$88K after taxes is about $62K or monthly about $5.100. In a major metropolitan area rent can eat into half of that easily, another $1.500 a month for health insurance that many pay, and now you have about $1000 left over for everything else…food, car payment, gas, braces, clothing, etc….
Not exactly living like a Hilton.
md
March 22nd, 2010
4:23 pm
Jewco,
And not exactly worthy of robbing one to give to another either. I’m sorry, “struggling” doesn’t justify stealing.
@@
March 22nd, 2010
4:24 pm
And a couple making $250,000 in NYC or California with all the same expenses?
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:24 pm
md,
“Do you contend that a woman does not choose to open her legs (outside of rape)? And why?”
Why do only 33% of large group healthcare plans cover oral contraceptives, yet the majority cover erectile dysfunction medication?
Mr. Right
March 22nd, 2010
4:25 pm
The will of the American people was ignored last night so—– Pay Day is coming, bring on Nov 2010
Midori
March 22nd, 2010
4:25 pm
Dave,
I STILL can’t scroll past them fast enough.
However hard I try……
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
4:26 pm
Well damn. My mom just called – my uncle has cancer, no health insurance – irony never ceases.
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:26 pm
md,
“And not exactly worthy of robbing one to give to another either. I’m sorry, “struggling” doesn’t justify stealing.”
And I sorry, I don’t consider this stealing. Difference of opinion we shall probably never bridge.
Midori
March 22nd, 2010
4:26 pm
Why do only 33% of large group healthcare plans cover oral contraceptives, yet the majority cover erectile dysfunction medication?
I’ve often wondered about that myself, JCB………..
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2010
4:27 pm
That’s because in your heart, you know I’m right, Midori.
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:27 pm
@@,
“And a couple making $250,000 in NYC or California with all the same expenses?”
I thought you were out…
josef nix
March 22nd, 2010
4:28 pm
Dave R
The minions were, as always, honest and direct. They didn’t have one word to say on this bill, either. I had the gifted ones for most of the day and they were far more intrigued with the concept of the “essential meaning of the radix of a lexical entry in its language of origin,” and how that essential is altered and refined by the addition of prefixes and suffixes in those of Latin and Greek or by compounding in words of Germanic and Greek origins and, most especially, how to determine the language of origin…
My regular ones were more concerned with the application of formulae in resolving a posed problem of geometric measurement.
Luckily, I was freed of having to deal with so-called grown-ups for most of the day…
Lyric
March 22nd, 2010
4:29 pm
Let me understand this clearly. McCain & GOP does not get their way so, no more support for anything from the DEM’S for the rest of the year ?? As an American I’m sorry but it is his JOB to work with the DEMS. Thank God he was not elected with that attitude. If he does not want to WORK THEN HE CAN GO HOME. I’m more than a little tired of the childish crap form our alleged leaders. If he wants to act like a spoiled child we should treat him like one and give HIM A TIME OUT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
Number1ninja
March 22nd, 2010
4:29 pm
So the last year was them being cooperative? Somebody get that man a dictionary.
GoingBroke
March 22nd, 2010
4:29 pm
Doesn’t matter if the GOP cooperates or not. Obama isn’t going to do what anyone wants to do…. but Obama..
Proud American
March 22nd, 2010
4:32 pm
Jay if you are so smart how can this health care bill have 200 + Republcan amendments if they are the party of no. The people will let you know how unhappy we are come November,just keep gloating.
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:32 pm
Midori,
“I’ve often wondered about that myself, JCB………..”
I guess making sure middle aged men can get an erection is more important than making sure unwanted children are not brought into this world or aborted.
Midori
March 22nd, 2010
4:32 pm
yeah. right. you can spell “t-r-u-t-h”
that about sums it up.
being and spelling are two entire different animals.
Midori
March 22nd, 2010
4:35 pm
another thing I’ve wondered about while watching the GOP make fools of themselves, JCB — they want to rant and rave about “preserving the sanctity of life”, yet they don’t want to ensure the health of the mothers.
It’s as if all they care about is women getting pregnant and not aborting babies. To heck with the health of the mother and/or baby.
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:36 pm
Midori,
“It’s as if all they care about is women getting pregnant and not aborting babies. To heck with the health of the mother and/or baby.”
Family values.
kayaker 71
March 22nd, 2010
4:37 pm
Midori,
ED is a medical diagnosis and a lingering symptom of a much greater problem. Last time I looked, pregnancy is not a disease.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2010
4:37 pm
jewcowboy–
As Unmentionable is constantly pointing out, the test of “status” comes down to the number of hours one works to pay for a product or service…it doesn’t take a great mind to calculate how many hours a minimum wage worker has to put in to buy milk, bread and eggs. Such a salary does not come near providing for food, clothing and shelter, much less such luxuries as health care. If I had to make do on my salary from the public schools, my standard of living would plummet to near poverty in a flash. How can these working poor expect sympathy from the more privileged when they have no sense of empathetic proportion.
Richard
March 22nd, 2010
4:37 pm
Country First right?
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
4:37 pm
“ED is a medical diagnosis and a lingering symptom of a much greater problem.”
Yeah, like you can’t have sex.
It Ain't Over Until the Fat Lady Sings
March 22nd, 2010
4:37 pm
“Twelve U.S. states are reportedly ready to sue the federal government over the massive health-care overhaul passed in the House yesterday, claiming it constitutes a major overstep of federal power.”
“The health-care reform legislation passed by the U.S. House of Representatives last night clearly violates the U.S. Constitution and infringes on each state’s sovereignty,” Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum, a Republican, said in statement.”
“On behalf of the state of Florida and of the attorneys general from South Carolina, Nebraska, Texas, Utah, Pennsylvania, Washington, North Dakota, South Dakota and Alabama,” McCollum announced, “if the president signs this bill into law, we will file a lawsuit to protect the rights and the interests of American citizens.”
Chris Salzmann
March 22nd, 2010
4:37 pm
I’ll like to repeat whatever Rahm Emanuel would say about McCain……but I can’t because it would get me ejected with certainty
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:39 pm
kayaker 71,
Pregnancy is not a medical diagnosis?
The last Boy Scout
March 22nd, 2010
4:39 pm
So what is going to be different? The GOP is just putting words to their actions of the past year. I say the GOP is just a bunch of old tired morrons looking for a new way to put the screws to the middle class and blame the poor. Go cry in a corner and let the real leadership solve problems.
FinnMcCool
March 22nd, 2010
4:40 pm
UPDATE II: A new CNN poll today finds that Americans oppose the current health care plan by a margin of 59-39%, but a sizable portion of those opposed — 13% — oppose it because “it is not liberal enough”.
Thus, a majority of Americans either support the plan or believe it should be more liberal (52%), while only a minority (43%) oppose the plan on the ground that it is too liberal.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/22/rel5a.pdf
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:40 pm
josef nix,
“How can these working poor expect sympathy from the more privileged when they have no sense of empathetic proportion.”
Howdy josef! I think you hit the nail on the head.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2010
4:40 pm
Before y’all go off on the abortion canard again, do be reminded that under the Massachusetts health plan the number of abortions decreased last year, and the number of teenage abortion by a significant percentage. That, in and of itself, should be a point of consideration.
FinnMcCool
March 22nd, 2010
4:41 pm
oops, that should all be in quotes
DoggoneGA
March 22nd, 2010
4:43 pm
“The true intent and meaning somehow gets lost in translation.”
Soco…that’s always the problem with those kind of translators…their too literal. For instance, if I put “my little darling” into an online translator for French, it comes back: “mon petit chéri” – which is OK. But if I put “mon petite chou” into a French to English translator it comes back “my baby cabbage”
But “mon petite chou” should be indiomatically translated to “my little darling” – because they are both terms of endearment, in their respective languages.
Mr. Right
March 22nd, 2010
4:44 pm
So the Republicans are the party of no? So tell me when was the the last time the Dems ever said yes to what the Republicans wanted?
Midori
March 22nd, 2010
4:44 pm
if that’s the case Kayaker, and pregnancy is relegated to such a lowly status, why can’t you and your ilk stay out of a woman’s decision to terminate or not?
we sure don’t get all up in arms about treating your broken members.
no pun intended.
FinnMcCool
March 22nd, 2010
4:45 pm
“Twelve U.S. states are reportedly ready to sue the federal government over the massive health-care overhaul passed in the House yesterday, claiming it constitutes a major overstep of federal power.”
yep, just like with all the tax dollars the republiconned threw away trying to pin something on Clinton, they will throw millions of dollars to the lawyers in a fruitless effort to turn this around.
It Ain't Over Until the Fat Lady Sings
March 22nd, 2010
4:46 pm
Midori:
Our “broken members” don’t grow up to become President of the United Statess …….. well, on second thought……………..
josef nix
March 22nd, 2010
4:47 pm
Finn–
I belong to that 13%. I was opposed to the bill at one level because I am not going to be satisfied with anything short of free, universal health care as a right (the Brazillian model). But don’t go adding me to that 39%. They bought into the half-a$$ed bull…and they speak my case no more than that 43%.
Midori
March 22nd, 2010
4:47 pm
Finn,
they love to waste our money on their jerk a*s vendettas.
DoggoneGA
March 22nd, 2010
4:49 pm
“do be reminded that under the Massachusetts health plan the number of abortions decreased last year”
and didn’t someone say yesterday, or the day before, that abortions are covered procedures under the MA health plan?
It Ain't Over Until the Fat Lady Sings
March 22nd, 2010
4:49 pm
FinnMcCool :
“Fruitless” ?
Isn’t that what you said about the 2nd Amendment case? A 5-4 is as good as a 9-0.
Bud Wiser
March 22nd, 2010
4:50 pm
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
12:56 pm
“That smells of making him a dictator.”
Oh my freaking God.
I knew some moron would take the bait.
So tell me, fish mouth; when a nation’s ruler can bypass standing law by simply signing an edict/executive order/whatever you call it, then what classification would you call him or IT?
Your ignorance knows no bounds, does it? It matters little; this puny victory will never survive a Supreme Court challenge, as the troops are gathering. The signers to this bill will begin their Bataan death march this election season.
November 10.
Furlough the politicians
March 22nd, 2010
4:50 pm
That’s so nice to know ahead of time…Now let’s get the things we need like Financial Services Reform, Immigration Reform and Climate Change…
md
March 22nd, 2010
4:51 pm
“Why do only 33% of large group healthcare plans cover oral contraceptives, yet the majority cover erectile dysfunction medication?”
Good question, yet not too sure about the later part of your statement as my plan doesn’t cover eds. I doubt it is the only one, as it is a national company.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
4:51 pm
“I belong to that 13%. I was opposed to the bill at one level because I am not going to be satisfied with anything short of free, universal health care as a right”
Yeah, Finn, what josef said.
But I’m not gonna pitch a fit like McCain cause I didn’t get all I wanted. I’ll take this as a first step – and take it from there.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
4:52 pm
“The signers to this bill will begin their Bataan death march this election season.”
Oh my freaking God.
kayaker 71
March 22nd, 2010
4:52 pm
“This country, with it’s institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their right to amend it or their revolutionary right to dismember and overthrow it”.
Abraham Lincoln, March 4, 1861
Ist Inagural Address
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
4:52 pm
“when a nation’s ruler can bypass standing law by simply signing an edict/executive order/whatever you call it, then what classification would you call him or IT?”
George W. Bush?
DoggoneGA
March 22nd, 2010
4:53 pm
“So the Republicans are the party of no? So tell me when was the the last time the Dems ever said yes to what the Republicans wanted?”
I don’t know about that last time…but ONE time was when they helped approve the “Use of force” that led to the invasion of Iraq.
Curious Observer
March 22nd, 2010
4:53 pm
So tell me when was the the last time the Dems ever said yes to what the Republicans wanted?
Well, most of us don’t want to return to carrying clubs on unlit dirt roads to protect ourselves while we’re scrounging in the ditches for food.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
4:53 pm
“when a nation’s ruler can bypass standing law by simply signing an edict/executive order/whatever you call it, then what classification would you call him or IT?”
Not sure Bud, why don’t you ask Bush, he seemed to do it every other day while POTUS.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2010
4:54 pm
Doggone
Feed it “titchou” or “t’chère” and see what you get!
One was fed the phrase in English: “The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak” and it came out in Russian, “The vodka’s good, but the meat has gone bad!”
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2010
4:54 pm
josef or Bosch, please tell me how can something be considered a “right”, when it requires the active participation of someone else?
DoggoneGA
March 22nd, 2010
4:55 pm
“their revolutionary right to dismember and overthrow it”
So, when does the revolution begin…or is that a deep, dark secret still?
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
4:56 pm
Oh my freaking God – kayaker wants another Civil War.
It Ain't Over Until the Fat Lady Sings
March 22nd, 2010
4:56 pm
kayaker 71 @ 4:52:
But then Lincoln went on Saturday Night Live and said ……….. “Never mind” and hundreds of thousands died !
md
March 22nd, 2010
4:57 pm
“How can these working poor expect sympathy from the more privileged when they have no sense of empathetic proportion.”
I can’t speak for others, but I’ve hovered around that $88000 for most of my working days, and there is no way I would ever consider it to qualify for subsidies. As a matter of fact, when I was well under that number, I stuck to the “needs” in life and actually sold off assets vs ever thinking it to be right to require others to give me money against their will.
No wonder this country is in such poor shape. The entitlement attitude will do nothing but expand the debt we already can’t afford. Hard to believe the amount of posters here that have lost the concept of providing for oneself.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2010
4:58 pm
Dave R–
Do we not have “the right” to to national security, which requires the active participation of someone else?
DoggoneGA
March 22nd, 2010
4:59 pm
jewcowboy…my favorite Bush Quote (in light of the Iraq invasion) is this one: “I don’t think our troops ought to be used for what’s called nation building.” Oct. 11, 2000 George W. Bush
Congress
March 22nd, 2010
4:59 pm
Doggone/GA & Bosch:
Here’s another one:
“That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”
I assume you believe in these precepts that our country was founded on.
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
5:00 pm
“This country, with it’s institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their right to amend it or their revolutionary right to dismember and overthrow it”.
Are you freaking kidding me…and interrupt 24, American Idol and Dancing with the Stars..good luck with that.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
5:00 pm
Dave R. – just like the other rights we have in this country. You’re right to bear arms depends on somebody making your gun and selling it to you — unless your like me and have gun making equipment in your attic, but I’d still have to buy the metal and stuff.
jefferson
March 22nd, 2010
5:00 pm
We have laws and courts that rule on the laws. A woman has control over her own body is a law. It has been ruled. This means its her business not mine or anyone else’s unless she deems so. This is law. Why don’t people mind their OWN business. That is rule #1 and law. Mind your own business. If you can’t follow rule #1 or the law there is no use talking. Refer to the rule. Mind your own business.
That’s about all I have to say about that.
DoggoneGA
March 22nd, 2010
5:01 pm
Josef…yes, I’ve seen that one before, about the vodka. And I’ve never actually tried it, but reportedly if you then take the Russian back to an English translator, then take THAT back to Russian it gets funnier with each iteration.
Count me in
March 22nd, 2010
5:01 pm
on abortion funding for poor blacks and illegals. we have ’nuff of those already.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
5:02 pm
Oh my freaking God, Congress wants another Revolutionary War.
Well, back in the day when we were actually being oppressed by the British and all, but today……no, not so much.
josef nix
March 22nd, 2010
5:03 pm
md
The question was, how many hours do you work for what you purchase? At $10.00 an hour, your bring home would be around $7.50, not enough to purchase that bread, milk and eggs. Calculate your $88,000 based on the number of hours (let’s stick with the standard 40, though you may well put in far more, I do) and then see how many hours you would work. I make this argument to bring this into perspective…
jewcowboy
March 22nd, 2010
5:03 pm
“That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”
Yeah…in the 1700’s before TiVO.
REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY
March 22nd, 2010
5:03 pm
So, what’s new? They couldn’t possibly be any more obstructive than they already are.
DoggoneGA
March 22nd, 2010
5:04 pm
“I assume you believe in these precepts that our country was founded on.”
I do, but I do not support the “right” of a noisy minority to tell me when I should agree that the government needs to be changed. I prefer to make that decision for myself.
Dave R.
March 22nd, 2010
5:04 pm
Actually, no we don’t josef. That is not a right, but a defined duty of government according to the U.S. Constitution.
Bosch
March 22nd, 2010
5:04 pm
Well – it’s been fun but the family is awaiting – and I have bad news to discuss. Anywho – take it easy you revolutionaries who want to overthrow this oppressive regime.