CNN poll: 59 percent of Americans oppose just-passed health-reform bill

In a new CNN poll released today, 59 percent of Americans say they oppose the health-insurance reform bill passed Sunday night, while just 39 percent support it. (13 percent say they oppose it because it isn’t liberal enough.)

On its face, that’s great news for the Republicans, and suggests that President Obama has a tough selling job in the weeks and months to come. It certainly gives the GOP some footing in their argument that the Democrats have overextended and will face a backlash come November.

However, a couple of other numbers in the poll ought to undercut that optimism. Asked who they trust more to handle changes in health care, Obama or congressional Republicans, Obama remains the clear favorite, by 51-39 percent. That will be important, because once this bill clears its last congressional hurdle, Obama rather than Congress will be seen as its chief defender and proponent.

Conversely, the leading critics of the bill will continue to be congressional Republicans, who lack Obama’s credibility. In fact, even congressional Democrats outperform Republicans in Congress on health care. Forty-five percent say that given the choice, they would trust Democrats, while 39 percent would support Republicans.

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Midori

March 22nd, 2010
5:20 pm

Those numbers will change once the lies have been thoroughly debunked.

TnGelding

March 22nd, 2010
5:21 pm

Those figures will be reversed by November.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
5:21 pm

Yeah, including John McCain, just sayin…

I don’t think they want to play ball with dummycrats either.

TnGelding

March 22nd, 2010
5:21 pm

Midori

March 22nd, 2010
5:20 pm

It’s unanimous!

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
5:22 pm

diMee- 59% of the people wanted health care before obozo started explaining it.

Just sayin….

Chris

March 22nd, 2010
5:22 pm

It’s worth pointing out that 13 percent of those who opposed HCR in the CNN poll did so because they thought it wasn’t liberal enough.

Midori

March 22nd, 2010
5:22 pm

Andy,

you’ve been posting on these blogs for at least 5 years.

I find it remarkable that you still resort to those juvenile labels.

Absolutely amazing. After 5 long years……

Kamchak

March 22nd, 2010
5:23 pm

Those numbers will change once the lies have been thoroughly debunked.

And therein lies the rub. How often do we have to debunk the Fannie/Freddie/CRA caused the sub-prime mortgage meltdown?

Midori

March 22nd, 2010
5:23 pm

LOL, Gelding :lol:

Midori

March 22nd, 2010
5:24 pm

I thought of that when I posted my comment, Kam.

They never let go of a good lie, do they?

TnGelding

March 22nd, 2010
5:25 pm

It took the stock markets a whole 30 minutes to shrug off the health insurance enonomy-killer. So much for the doom-sayers. But it’s too early to celebrate. Let’s wait and see what trickles out from the regulators over the next few months.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
5:25 pm

Conversely, the leading critics of the bill will continue to be congressional Republicans, who lack Obama’s credibility

Have you met We The People yet, Bookman.

Oh yeah, I forgot, you look down on us as a bunch mouth breathers who are waiting for the government and it’s stooge media to tell us what’s good for us.

It’ll all change once obozo gives his two thousandth speech on health care, yeah boy.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
5:26 pm

diMee- What label?

TW

March 22nd, 2010
5:27 pm

Remember when the right used to blow ‘w’…check that…blow wind into ‘w’s sails for not listening to the poles?

McSame? Really? So, on the right we got that ball dippin’ tea nastiness and the loser retard…check that…loser retread form ‘08? Throw in the drunk boner, and the lung cancer king from Ky and you got no, NO chance in November.

Beceause a loser…is a loser…is a loser…

YES WE DID :)

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
5:28 pm

Anybody else notice how the libs can’t tell us what’s good about the health care bill but they promise they will?

Know what I mean?

TnGelding

March 22nd, 2010
5:29 pm

Jay didn’t say Obama had a high credibility rating; just higher than congressional Republicans.

TnGelding

March 22nd, 2010
5:31 pm

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin…

March 22nd, 2010
5:28 pm

You’d have to study it for weeks to even have a clue, and most of us wouldn’t have one then. That’s my main objection; too complicated. There were simpler and quicker ways to address the preceived problems.

getalife

March 22nd, 2010
5:32 pm

He can sell it.

Yes, he can.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
5:32 pm

Has anyone broke the news to Bart Stupid that the Republicans will be the ones doling out government jobs come November, unlike what obozo told him?

TnGelding

March 22nd, 2010
5:32 pm

TnGelding

March 22nd, 2010
5:33 pm

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin…

March 22nd, 2010
5:32 pm

You could probably get a sizable kitty built up here betting on that.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
5:33 pm

Is this the same TN that I know?

Could you check IP address for me, Bookman?

Congress

March 22nd, 2010
5:35 pm

Can anyone say “Unconstitutional” ?

I predict all for naught …………………

TnGelding

March 22nd, 2010
5:36 pm

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin…

March 22nd, 2010
5:33 pm

One and the same. The only!

TnGelding

March 22nd, 2010
5:37 pm

Congress

March 22nd, 2010
5:35 pm

That’s a distinct possibility.

Kamchak

March 22nd, 2010
5:38 pm

They never let go of a good lie, do they?

Midori–they’re graduates of the Ann Coulter School of Punditry. Lie loud, lie often, never recant.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
5:40 pm

Damn, and here I thought you were TW and diMee’s love spawn and unable to understand such complicated issues.

Been sleeping at the Holiday Inn Express?

Can you imagine, you are a lib, the government sends out your bi weekly check, you figure you got enough money to stay stoned at least for a week, and here’s the IRS kicking down the door of your flophouse, talking about you need to pay up your health insurance.

But Bookman says every thing will be swell. And unemployment will drop.

md

March 22nd, 2010
5:41 pm

“It took the stock markets a whole 30 minutes to shrug off the health insurance enonomy-killer. So much for the doom-sayers. But it’s too early to celebrate.”

Too early to celebrate and too early to judge the markets reaction – still needs to be signed and changes back to Senate. Market may be waiting for the finale to react. If premiums skyrocket like they have in MA, and business bears the brunt, look for the markets to tank at that point.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
5:45 pm

md- 25 million people have just been forced to buy health insurance, how do you figure Big Insurance is going to suffer?

Mick

March 22nd, 2010
5:46 pm

In all my life I have NEVER once been polled. The only real poll that counts comes this november. Whoever the best candidates are will win. Corzine was sunk in jersey because of the reviled goldman sachs connection, brown won in mass. because coakley s*cked. For all the amateur pundits, the 24/7 news cycle has changed the game. It is a much faster astroturf and the dems have the home field advantage so don’t be counting those easter eggs that never hatch.

TnGelding

March 22nd, 2010
5:46 pm

md

March 22nd, 2010
5:41 pm

But at least the uncertainty of if the bills would pass is over, and that’s a good thing.

TaxPayer

March 22nd, 2010
5:48 pm

I still do not know why Republicans prefer to have insurance companies that can deny them coverage or even cancel their policy on a whim. Maybe they have masochistic tendencies.

@@

March 22nd, 2010
5:51 pm

From downstairs.

jewcowboy:

I thought you were out.

Moments in passing. No response to my couple making $250,000 in NYC….California? Wealth is relative but your side wants to define who is and who is not wealthy. Class warfare against some who could be deemed middle.

An “important” question!

Does Nancy Pelosi wear dentures and if so, are they her dead sister’s?

On topic. Obama will have to transform this bill into something liberals want (universal coverage) to appease his uber-leftists or something more conducive to a center-right nation. I’m pretty sure he’ll hang left.

Ann

March 22nd, 2010
5:51 pm

A lot of liberals oppose this bill because it is not Universal Healthcare. Hopefully in a few years we’ll get Universal Healthcare :)

DoggoneGA

March 22nd, 2010
5:52 pm

“In all my life I have NEVER once been polled.

I have, many times…problem for the pollsters is that I never answer poll questions. It took me 3 months to teach the pollsters at my local mall to leave me alone when they saw me coming.

josef nix

March 22nd, 2010
5:53 pm

JAY–
Weren’t we on this downstairs? Keep up, m’Lad… :-)

David

March 22nd, 2010
5:53 pm

No, I don’t know what you mean, I Report. I seriously doubt you know anything at all about what’s in the bill. Here’s a few pointers for you (write them down)

1) The bill is at worst revenue neutral – the CBO says it’ll cut costs and save money (but I betcha you don’t pay for your insurance, right?)

2) 30 to 50 million more people will have coverage. I’d say that outnumbers you and your two friends.

3) Some of the worst insurance abuses – pre-existing condition exclusions and cancelling coverage because of claims (illness) will be banned – but you LIKED those polices, right?

Me, I’d like a single payer system with the muscle for cost containment. Insurance carriers are bookies, they make more money when costs go up. More costs, higher premiums, more profit. Haven’t seen too many physicians emigrating to Costa Rica because they can’t make a living here.

As to the political fallout, who the heck listens to, reads about or follows Republicans anymore? They’re gone like the dinosaurs, totally irrelevant to real life. A shrinking sect, soon to disappear – or don’t you follow elections, either?

getalife

March 22nd, 2010
5:53 pm

Adults are in charge.

cons are sore losers and need to grow up.

The children are watching.

josef nix

March 22nd, 2010
5:55 pm

I get polled all the time. Love ‘em! ‘Course the poor downtrodden questioner has to figure out him/herself just which bubble that answer fills…!

DoggoneGA

March 22nd, 2010
5:56 pm

“A lot of liberals oppose this bill because it is not Universal Healthcare”

Not quite, I don’t think. A lot of us opposed it because it’s not Single Payer. There are LOTS of roads to “universal healthcare” – this bill is actually one of them, just not the one I would have prefered. But I’m taking a pragmatic approach…it’s better than what we have now.

If it works, great. If not, Single Payer is still out there to be summoned.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
5:57 pm

A reader who attended the protest sends us this account, which is quite different:

It was the usual mix of very nice people who are very upset by the undemocratic methods being used to run over their rights.

I saw more blacks this time than in previous rallies–a couple of them were carrying signs which carried the URL: black-is-right.com (I think that’s what it said, haven’t checked). One black guy wearing an NRA T-shirt was chanting “Kill the bill!” along with everyone else–if I’d had a video camera it would have been good.

I’ve been to all the DC tea party events since last April 15 and have never seen any foam-at-the-mouth types–these are good people, polite but firm in their belief.

The URL actually seems to be black-and-right.com. Some have disputed the accuracy of the congressmen’s claims to have been the target of racial slurs; the Washington Times has a video of the congressmen walking by, and no racial epithets can be heard.

democrats are just sick in the freaking head.

@@

March 22nd, 2010
5:57 pm

Filled out my 2010 Census today. First and only question answered. “How many people were living or staying in this house, apartment, or mobile home on April 1, 2010?

A body with 2 heads. Filled in the remaining blanks with NOYDB (None of your damn business).

@@

March 22nd, 2010
6:01 pm

Andy:

Democrats have to create their victims. Without them, they’d have no reason to exist.

josef nix

March 22nd, 2010
6:03 pm

@@

I answered everything but name and phone number…ain’t none of their d*mned business…then I cut off the part with the bar code and sent it back in my own envelope…

roldawg70

March 22nd, 2010
6:05 pm

from crooksandliars

Ten immediate benefits of HCR
By karoli Sunday Mar 21, 2010 5:45pm

Here are ten benefits which come online within six months of the President’s signature on the health care bill:

1. Adult children may remain as dependents on their parents’ policy until their 27th birthday
2. Children under age 19 may not be excluded for pre-existing conditions
3. No more lifetime or annual caps on coverage
4. Free preventative care for all
5. Adults with pre-existing conditions may buy into a national high-risk pool until the exchanges come online. While these will not be cheap, they’re still better than total exclusion and get some benefit from a wider pool of insureds.
6. Small businesses will be entitled to a tax credit for 2009 and 2010, which could be as much as 50% of what they pay for employees’ health insurance.
7. The “donut hole” closes for Medicare patients, making prescription medications more affordable for seniors.
8. Requirement that all insurers must post their balance sheets on the Internet and fully disclose administrative costs, executive compensation packages, and benefit payments.
9. Authorizes early funding of community health centers in all 50 states (Bernie Sanders’ amendment). Community health centers provide primary, dental and vision services to people in the community, based on a sliding scale for payment according to ability to pay.
10. AND no more rescissions. Effective immediately, you can’t lose your insurance because you get sick.

In our community – half-rural and half-suburb — 50 community health centers will receive funding to provide health and preventive services to people with no access right now. And that’s just one benefit. They’re all valuable.

We the people

March 22nd, 2010
6:05 pm

voted for Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, and a democrat majority. Barack Obama promised health care reform and he delivered. The American people are against “pulling the plug on granny”
“government takeover of health care”, and all the other lies.

josef nix

March 22nd, 2010
6:06 pm

@@

One of the reasons I hold the Dems in the same antipathy I hold the GOP is for their creation of “victims.” What part of equality do they not get? I’m tired of their sympathy. A little empathy, but choke on your d*mned sympathy. Don’t need it and don’t want it.

md

March 22nd, 2010
6:07 pm

“md- 25 million people have just been forced to buy health insurance, how do you figure Big Insurance is going to suffer?”

Those won’t be the ones suffering, it will be the other gazillion businesses still on the hook for employee premiums. Premiums in MA have gone UP almost 17% since the passing of their hc, their cost projections were way off. Costs are 5x what was projected. Multiply by 50, and someone has some big expenses to pay.

Premiums are an expense, so look for higher cost of goods (doubtful during recession) or more layoffs. If this bill does not allow for policy dumping, layoffs would be the logical place for costs to be made up. I’m guessing unemployment going up instead of down.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
6:07 pm

11. You can kill your unborn child with the dollars of tax payers who think the act is an abomination.

Tea party member

March 22nd, 2010
6:08 pm

Don’t fill out that census form. It’s a conspiracy for a government takeover. Internment camps are next. I know it’s true. Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, and Glenn Beck said so. It must be true.

REPUBLICANS ARE SORRY

March 22nd, 2010
6:09 pm

Call a waaaaaaaaaaaambulance. Armageddon is here.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
6:10 pm

Your zip code indicates that you are outside of the 1st District of Michigan.

Regrettably, I am unable to reply to any email from constituents outside of the 1st District of Michigan.

Click Here to return to my home page.

eh, he’s probably had plenty of people call him a baby killer today.

@@

March 22nd, 2010
6:11 pm

josef:

The intended purpose is to get a head count. Why would you give them anymore than that?

My husband wanted me to plead the 5th.

Hillbilly Deluxe

March 22nd, 2010
6:13 pm

@@ Josef

Mr/Mrs/Ms Census is not going to be happy with you, two. Y’all may even be required to spend time on the Group W bench, filling out more forms. (IW&SH)

John Boehner

March 22nd, 2010
6:13 pm

I’m mad as hell about this healthscare reform ! Will it pay for my spray tans, whiskey or cigarettes? HELL NO, IT WON’T !!!!!!

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
6:13 pm

Gee, what happen to single payer?

Why are we still in Iraq?

Gitmo is still open for business?

Suck on your little insurance company enrichment act, wee little ones.

It’s all you got!

John Boehner

March 22nd, 2010
6:15 pm

Will it make me speaker of the house in November? HEL L NO, IT WON’T !!!

jgogek

March 22nd, 2010
6:15 pm

These survey stats are taken during the frenzy of the bill’s passage. I expect they will change. What I’m really worried about is the likelihood of violence caused by the Republicans vociferous denunciations coupled with the fact that the white supremacist Tea Party folks are armed and full of blind rage. If tea bag violence happens, Mitch McConnell and John Boehner and company will be to blame.

John Boehner

March 22nd, 2010
6:16 pm

Will it provide us with more gay sex in the bathrooms? HELL NO, IT WON’T!!!

Hillbilly Deluxe

March 22nd, 2010
6:17 pm

IR/YW

Go to a map and pick out a town in that district, go to this site

http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/citytown.jsp

type in your new name and state and bingo, you got your zip code. There’s more’n one way to skin a cat.

(Please foward any PETA hate mail I get for that remark to Jay) :lol:

John Boehner

March 22nd, 2010
6:17 pm

Will it make my boy page staffer take off his clothes for me? HELL NO, IT WON’T !!!

josef nix

March 22nd, 2010
6:17 pm

Tea Party–
While I am not of the mind that the cattle cars are right around the corner, it was from just such lists that the nazis rounded up their victims in many locals…our status as two males living together as partners, which I have no problem in listing, should not be attached to two names and an address…no sense in making it easier if and when…and let’s not forget, we are sending our sons and daughters to die to support our puppet state which calls for a death penalty…hyperbole…? No doubt, off-the-wall? No doubt…but our government policy under Fierce Advocate is to support a regime as genocidal as that of Uncle Adolf’s…

John Boehner

March 22nd, 2010
6:18 pm

Will it make the democrats lose their majority next election? HELL NO, IT WON’T !!!!!!

John Boehner

March 22nd, 2010
6:19 pm

Will it stop us from crying from now until the next election? HELL NO, IT WON’T !!!!

Bob Richard

March 22nd, 2010
6:19 pm

According to this poll, 39% + 13% want health care reform compared with 59% – 13% who do not. Reform wins, 52% to 46%. But the press almost never reports it that way. Many more than 13% want reform that goes further than this bill (Medicare for all or at least a public option) but think this is all we can get. As long as the insurance companies are calling the shots, this may well be all we can get. But it’s not what we need. The press, with the help of the PR geniuses behind the so called Tea Party, have managed to make it look like the bill is to the left of public opinion. In fact it’s to the right of public opinion.

TheQG

March 22nd, 2010
6:19 pm

“Since the day the election results came out, the Republicans have been the “Party of NO.” The scary truth is that Bipartisanship may actually be dead. The problem is, Republicans killed it. This country was founded on the idea of people with differing opinions coming together, talking things out, and getting things done to make this country better for its people. Republicans have become so caught up in the political game that they have forgotten why they’re even in office. There is no interest in getting anything done. In fact, the goal is to make sure that nothing positive gets done so that they can take back “power” as soon as possible.”

Read the Full Article @ TheQG

911

March 22nd, 2010
6:20 pm

We need a waaaaaaaaambulance for all the crying republicans ! Hurry !

josef nix

March 22nd, 2010
6:22 pm

@@

Why? Well, as I posted earlier, I love a poll! (ISH)

Boehmer–

Genug!

Hillbilly–

I worked for the 1980 Census count…I know what happens with the likes of me! Before it’s over with, I’ll have done my part in creating a more permanent job as they keep sending out somebody trying to get me to answer… ;-)

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

March 22nd, 2010
6:23 pm

So everybody thinks these views will change before November? Can anyone tell me why? Are the dims going to parade more “sick little johnny’s mommy” in front of the cameras? They have done that.

Once we start paying for this mess while it isn’t enacted for four years, will that do it? Will people just be happy that the government is taking our money and giving us nothing?

Guys, most people aren’t like you. They understand what your party is doing to our country.

And that’s not going to change in 8 months.

Jess

March 22nd, 2010
6:24 pm

Jay’s argument is framed as though health care is the only issue in which the public has interest. What these polls tell me is that the people want a president who focuses on the economy and jobs rather than health care at this point in history. It tells me that a lot of smart people understand how this new entitlement will ultimately affect them, and that we cannot afford this right now. It tells me there are a lot of people out there who are smarter than Jay thinks. It offers me some hope.

EBMazza88

March 22nd, 2010
6:24 pm

People just don’t know anything about the health care bill. They don’t support what they don’t understand. Once they educate themselves those polls will change dramatically.

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

March 22nd, 2010
6:24 pm

Josef

Tell them about your 17 children of African decent. I told them about mine.

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

March 22nd, 2010
6:26 pm

EBMazza88

**Once they educate themselves those polls will change dramatically.**

Sure. Everybody I know plans on spending weeks reading the bill and then taking a course in corruption to really educate themselves about it.

Mr. Right

March 22nd, 2010
6:26 pm

what really “gets” me is the attitude that alot of the liberals have, almost like they’re so much smarter then us lowly constituents. We the little people might think we know what we want but our “parents” in charge know best (pat,pat on our wee little heads)….

md

March 22nd, 2010
6:26 pm

Per the census:

Folks may want research what is being used these days in court to make a case –

Facebook, Myspace, etc.

Then, if you have a supermarket card, they know your shopping habits, not to mention every other “reward program” one is tied too.

Whats the big deal you may ask, well, if one ever goes to court, or is accused of a crime, it doesn’t help your case when you have been buying items for years that may connect someones dots. You buy beer every day – must be an alcoholic – take the kids away, he must get drunk and beat her, etc etc.

Paranoid? I used to think so until I started reading about court cases using this information.

And just think about all the places you visited on the internet, even the ones you went to by accident – think someone with an agenda cares?

EBMazza88

March 22nd, 2010
6:27 pm

It seems like everyone who is against this reform or doesn’t think it will succeed are failing horribly at explaining why and how they think it will fail??

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

March 22nd, 2010
6:28 pm

911

The fact that almost 60% of Americans are weeping for our country is hardly worth joking about.

josef nix

March 22nd, 2010
6:28 pm

NIF

I entered myself as “Hispanic” and listed Sephardic…well, I am and it gives me uppity papers intra tribu, snob that I am! :-)

Mr. Right

March 22nd, 2010
6:28 pm

EBMazza88 —-Are you by any chance Nancy P

N-GA

March 22nd, 2010
6:29 pm

The far right is leading the GOP into oblivion. What’s wrong with that?

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

March 22nd, 2010
6:29 pm

EBMazza88

**It seems like everyone who is against this reform or doesn’t think it will succeed are failing horribly at explaining why and how they think it will fail??**

We can’t afford it. We can’t pay for it. We can’t take half a trillion from medicare.

Done.

Happy?

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

March 22nd, 2010
6:31 pm

josef

I am South Pacific with ties to outer space. (I had to write it in)

Let’s see if I get a grant for earth exploration.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

March 22nd, 2010
6:32 pm

Dang! Our own GA House couldn’t come up with enough votes to put this health care bill on the ballot as a constitutonal amendment. And the GA Senate couldn’t either. And now they’re begging the state AG, a Democrat, to file a suit against his own party. They might as well go all the way and ask the Temperance Union for a good stiff drink.

Anyway, with our luck we’ll get stuck with this bill. Didn’t nothing go right for us. Here our reps up in DC said they was going to beat this bill and make Obama look bad. They got up on TV and begged and cried and cussed and said the Democrats needed to vote against it. They just rammed it home on us. And with our luck, by the time November comes lots of people will have jobs and will like this HC bill and we’ll be stuck sticking up for the bankers in the regulation fight. We’d be better off defending a bunch of child molesters.

I can’t figure out why so many people don’t like us godly Republicans. Is it something we done?

Have a good night everybody.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
6:32 pm

The winners will be those who today are uninsured, but who will (eventually) acquire insurance. But there will not be a major reduction in the uninsured until 2014. So, the actual winners are going to be pretty few in number for some time.

Meanwhile, the losers begin to feel the effects immediately. Between now and the next presidential election, ObamaCare is going to pay out virtually zero dollars in benefits, but it will take billions out of Medicare. This is bad for seniors.

After decades of developing a reputation for defending the interests of senior citizens, the Democrats have put it in serious jeopardy with this legislation. And they’ve done so right at the moment when demographic shifts are making the senior population more powerful than ever.

The only people who don’t realize how bad the dummycrats are going to be pounded in November are the…..dummycrats, hahahahaha, just sayin….

josef nix

March 22nd, 2010
6:32 pm

md

Concerning internet and sites visited…I get a true chuckle out of what the watchers must assume I am since mine run the gamut since I’m fascinated by what all kinds of people think…

md

March 22nd, 2010
6:34 pm

” Once they educate themselves those polls will change dramatically.”

Especially if they educate themselves on the cost. MA missed their numbers by a multiple of 5. SS and Medicare/caid both missed their numbers by a bunch. And the gullible in the country are looking at the CBO numbers as if they are written in stone.

14 trillion and rising – there is your education. Might want to learn how to add really big numbers and then do the math as to where it will all come from.

There is a point of no return, anyone have any idea what it is??

@@

March 22nd, 2010
6:37 pm

Democrat’s bi-partisanship?

January, 2009 Obama faced an early test, when, in the midst of the debate over economic stimulus, Democrats worked to shut Republicans out of the policy process, then behaved boorishly when Republicans complained.

“If it’s passed with 63 votes or 73 votes, history won’t remember it,” said Senator Richard Durbin, Democrat of Illinois.

Oh we remember, Dicky Boy….we remember.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi added to the mood by saying, “Yes, we wrote the bill. Yes, we won the election.”

Childs play and Obama did nothing to discourage it.

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

March 22nd, 2010
6:37 pm

md

**There is a point of no return, anyone have any idea what it is??**

Yesterday?

md

March 22nd, 2010
6:38 pm

“Concerning internet and sites visited…I get a true chuckle out of what the watchers must assume I am since mine run the gamut since I’m fascinated by what all kinds of people think…”

Jo – when the kids were home, it is amazing how many bands/groups have names similar to porn sites. Of course when one of the bands is “Orgy”……..

josef nix

March 22nd, 2010
6:39 pm

Swamper..
Have you ever read “Passing for Human?” See, Earth is in the way of an intergaltic freeway and Benaroya has been sent to see if there is any intelligent life here worth saving…she has these bodies she can put on and she gets trapped in Mary Worth and her arthritis is a pain..the only help she can count on are 57 automatons, Richard Nixons named for an obscure 20th Century American President…why tell you that? Unmentionable said that I should tell them his name is Benaroya…

AmVet

March 22nd, 2010
6:39 pm

Middle class American families currently pay on average 21% of their income in out of pocket health care expenses.

TWENTY ONE%!

Which is quickly approaching the cost of owning a home! (26.5%)

For what? The world’s 24th best system that dirty money can buy?

This legislation is IMHO is a joke.

But the bigger joke BY FAR is on the ostriches and those lacking any moral courage, who will never do a damned thing to even try to fix this clusterf&ck.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Impeach Drunken Fool obozo! Just sayin...

March 22nd, 2010
6:40 pm

John Lewis is the scum of the Earth, just sayin…

And you can quote me on that.

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

March 22nd, 2010
6:40 pm

TheQG

There was bipartisanship going on here. Everybody hated it. The Democrats joined the Republicans in a show of unity against this horrible bill.

AmVet

March 22nd, 2010
6:41 pm

Bipartisanship?

YGBFKM.

ONLY the Mafia has more obedience than the Republican Party…

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

March 22nd, 2010
6:42 pm

joseh

that was a book? I thought it was a dairy.

Normal

March 22nd, 2010
6:43 pm

I, like the Good American I am, filled out my census correctly and sent it in promptly. Cats are considered dependents aren’t they?

Kim

March 22nd, 2010
6:43 pm

Wow!!!! Some of you guys sound worse that kids at a schoolyard. You should really be embarrased and ashamed by some of your comments. If you truly search yourselves you will discover that your real issue is not healthcare. Just be honest with yourself!! Very, very sad……

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

March 22nd, 2010
6:43 pm

AmVet

And it will now cost middle-class families even more because this bill only taxes them, and doesn’t cover them.

Until you actually find out what this bill does and what it doesn’t, you are the only person with their head in the sand.

#1 Foxy Lady

March 22nd, 2010
6:44 pm

#1% of Foxy Lady says:

SUCK IT, LOSERS!!!!

Are You Following Me Camera Guy?

March 22nd, 2010
6:44 pm

In Revenge of the Sith, while the senate is applauding their vote to give dictatorial powers to one man, the character Padme says, “So this is how liberty dies . . .with thunderous applause.”

TG