Congressmen say congressmen did nothing wrong

This is a classic example of Washington protecting Washington, from the Washington Post:

The House ethics committee ruled Friday that seven lawmakers who steered hundreds of millions of dollars in largely no-bid contracts to clients of a lobbying firm had not violated any rules or laws by also collecting large campaign donations from those contractors.

In a 305-page report, the ethics committee declared that lawmakers are free to raise campaign money from the very companies they are benefiting so long as the deciding factors in granting those “earmarks” are “criteria independent” of the contributions. The report served as a blunt rejection of ethics watchdogs and a different group of congressional investigators, who have contended that in some instances the connection between donations and earmarks was so close that it had to be inappropriate.

“Simply because a member sponsors an earmark for an entity that also happens to be a campaign contributor does not, on these two facts alone, support a claim that a member’s actions are being influenced by campaign contributions,” the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct said in a unanimous statement.

OWTH! (Off WIth Their Heads!)

It’s that “unanimous” part that really tells you what is going on. Not a single ethics committee member of either party found any of their colleagues guilty of a thing. Somehow, the contributors in this case magically got the impression that if they donated campaign money to these congressmen, they would get earmarks in return, while the congressmen in question do the “who, us?” routine.

The good news is that the FBI and Justice Department are conducting an investigation of their own, and maybe they won’t go so easy on these and other congressmen.

That all said, we have created a political system that drives this kind of behavior. Until and unless the public is willing to support tough campaign finance laws, including perhaps public financing of campaigns, we’re going to see this kind of behavior.

306 comments Add your comment

jt

February 27th, 2010
9:20 am

Tar and Feather.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

February 27th, 2010
9:23 am

Aahhh, yes, the classic misdirection ploy by a member of the dummycrat stooge media.

Jack Abramoff, Charles Rangel.

Rangel, Abramoff.

Just sayin…..

Don’t want to talk about it, eh, Bookman?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

February 27th, 2010
9:25 am

The dummycrats made big hay back in the days of Bush Derangement Syndrome, now that one of their oen does the exact same thing, eh, not so much.

No More Progressives!

February 27th, 2010
9:34 am

Business as usual.

Obama awarded a big no-bid last week to a big campaign donor; botulism research, or so I read.

May not matter, though. Once the seven are identified (maybe here??) hopefully they’ll be gone 11/2/2010.

Paul

February 27th, 2010
9:38 am

Yes, yes and yes.

Also read an AP piece this morning – Rep Rangel’s staff sent him two memos and a letter telling him his two trips were being paid for by corporate sponsors – a violation. Yet… no one can prove Rep Rangel actually read the material, so, golly gee says Spkr Pelosi, he didn’t do anything wrong.

What’s really insulting in all this is how flat-out stupid they must think the electorate is. If they get reelected, well, maybe they’re right.

Road Scholar

February 27th, 2010
9:44 am

Rep. Rangel: Who is in charge of your office and any resulting errors? I thought that the Boss was ALWAYS in charge. Have those emloyees been fired? I don’t think so! Resign as chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee now! The American people will not and should not reward incompetence and finger pointing.

AmVet

February 27th, 2010
9:49 am

Hi Paul.

Just read an article about how Rick Perry has co-opted an ABBA song to “advance” his campaign. Is this guy as big a loser as he seems? And compared to the worst POTUS in history, George of the Bungle – was he an improvement as guv? (I know, I know. Don’t mess with Texas!)

JB, josef and Bruno, thanks for the good thoughts last night. My down time has enabled me to watch a great deal of that scintillating sport – curling!

As for this topic, our federal government – the worst government that dirty money can buy. Just the way the die-hard dems and brain-dead repubs love it…

Soothsayer

February 27th, 2010
9:50 am

I don’t know if any of you got to watch the Jack Cafferty special last night about Broken Government on CNN. It came on at 7:00 pm. It’s nice to actually hear someone say it instead of all the cheerleading. If it is aired again, try to watch it.

No More Progressives!

February 27th, 2010
10:02 am

And compared to the worst POTUS in history, George of the Bungle – was he an improvement as guv? (I know, I know. Don’t mess with Texas!)

Wrong again. THE worst, to date, was Jimmy C. The evolving worst is in office now. GWB is clearly top 5, but not the worst.

Rightwing Troll

February 27th, 2010
10:03 am

10 hours and Obama still isn’t in Chile to help. WHY????? WHERE IS OBAMA? WHY IS HE NOT HELPING THE PEOPLE OF CHILE?????

Rightwing Troll

February 27th, 2010
10:04 am

How many wars did Jimmy start without provacation?

30

February 27th, 2010
10:11 am

I testify that nicotine is not addictive. I declare that hotdogs are not a choking hazard. I swear that Killer Whales do not drown people, (water does).

And guns don’t kill people, (nor bullets), but people behaving like targets in a firing range kill people.

I invoke my fifth amendment rights to say no more about nuthin no how.

Where’s the money?

Paul

February 27th, 2010
10:21 am

AmVet

Good to see you back! You were missed last night.

Pres Bush’s tenure as gov was over before I arrived, but from my own reading and talking to people here, they all seem to say “we know who we sent to Washington, but who was that guy who arrived?!!?”

They cite education reforms (formed basis for his No Child Left Behind Act, I hear), how really bipartisan he was with the legislature, how he even instituted renewable energy programs (Texas now’s the top state for wind power). When his chief of staff protested, I read he told the guy ‘windmills…. do it.”

Yeah, Gov Perry’s an embarrassment. All he does is tout his fake conservative credentials, then lap up all the fed and stim money he can.

The guy’s leading Sen Hutchison in the primary polls, but the numbers don’t look good for him regarding the Democratic challenger, the ex mayor of Houston. In a state as heavily Republican as this, that’s amazing.

Don’t be a stranger, okay?

getalife

February 27th, 2010
10:23 am

The culture of corruption is getting worse.

Need to put term limits on the 12 ballot and let people vote for it.

The FBI should handle ethics complaints.

Make lobbyists contact reps like the people to shut down k street.

Shorten and cap money for electoral reform with winner take all like the gop.

Paul

February 27th, 2010
10:33 am

oh AmVet

Coopting an ABBA song is the one thing I can say that shows he has an ounce of sense. But it’s diminished by the fact he probably thinks they’re some Viking country western group -

DoggoneGA

February 27th, 2010
11:21 am

“I thought that the Boss was ALWAYS in charge. ”

Never been that way in any job I ever had, but though “the boss” is not always “in charge” – the ultimate responsibility for the conduct of the office still falls in the boss’s lap.

Captain America

February 27th, 2010
11:25 am

In other news, former Haliburton subsidiary KBR (the same big GOP contributors that built the substandard barracks in Iraq and are being investigated for fraud by the Feds.) was recently given the contract to built the new dental school at the Medical College of Georgia. I guess no Georgia construction firms could afford the same level of bribes that KBR can.

NowReally

February 27th, 2010
12:11 pm

There is too much focus on re-elections; if not, there would not be a need for a lobbyist to provide a campaign contribution. There should be a two term limit for the House and the Senate; the same should happen at all levels of state government. I know there are limits in some, but this should be the case for every elected position.

It’s a method to protect power and greed.

Soothsayer

February 27th, 2010
12:27 pm

Congressman Linder to retire

Finally! This dumbass is doing something right. After spewing FairTax venon for decades, it’s about time. Hallelujah!

Soothsayer

February 27th, 2010
12:30 pm

jt

February 27th, 2010
12:39 pm

Drown it in the bathtub.

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
12:43 pm

Well, not much new here today.

AmVet the Awful is back (happy recovery!) calling George the Bungle again and AGAIN!

Rightwing Troll is STILL talking about wars without provocation. He’s not provoked with terrorists.

Rangel is still a crook but the ethics committee is blind and deaf as long as they can keep a Democrat alive in Congress.

Ethics (?) Committee says goodies from Lobbyists never influence pork-projects in Congress. More B & D.

Curling is mentioned. But…what is curling if not in the beauty salon?

Paul mentions good points of Bush when he was gov of Texas. Bush was good when he was president of all the people, just some did not like the sharing. GWB is right up there with Truman!

Jimmy Carter should have stayed with his submarine or his peanuts. Still should.

But.. the sun is shining in Georgia…no tsunami….no earthquake (X)<—–fingers crossed! Chili hit with an 8 point something earthquake!!! Now that is real rattle and roll! More tragedy and sorrow.

Bud Wiser

February 27th, 2010
12:49 pm

As usual, the morons revert to the Bush Derangement Syndrome, blaming all of Obowo’s troubles, every ailment from the common cold to toe fungus, on Bush.

I guess the really stupid just choose to ignore the massive and unconscionable debt being piled on by the uppity Kenyan, and his brainless congressional cohorts.

Cold Cash Jefferson, tax cheats Geithner and Rangel, ‘no problem’ loan Dodd, just to name a few, leave a putrid stench upon their party, as do many repugs. I frankly think they should all be thrown out, and we start over, with a national ’special election’ to replace the morons. The only problem with that is that the ignorant fools that voted for many of them will vote for them again, just because they are too stupid NOT to.

I truly believe that this culture of corruption has existed for decades, but is only now being brought to the shining light of truth and exposure.

That ignorant sap Obowo, Pelosi, and Reid just plod along as stupid as eer, ignoring the polls, and ignoring the will of the American people.

Their day is coming.

In November.

THIS JUST IN: Sirens are now sounding all over Hawaii over impending tsunami generated from that horredous earthquake in Chile.

No More Progressives!

February 27th, 2010
12:59 pm

Road Scholar

February 27th, 2010
9:44 am
Rep. Rangel: Who is in charge of your office and any resulting errors?

I don’t think anyone is really in charge, RS. A good, card-carrying Democrat abhors taking responsibility for anything. That makes them accountable. It’s always “someone elses fault.”

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
1:10 pm

Soothsayer,

You surely do like to smooth things over. Obama is just an innocent bystander and Bush was the robber baron of the USA budget. Really?

So terrorists attack us and we get a war. Those terrorists are all the fault of Bush. And he ( and CONGRESS) made us all fight back. Yeah! It is costly.

Then Bush gives us the TARP fund to help the economy. That fund is almost repaid.

Then Obama gives us TENT city, the building of trillions into USA debt. He CONTINUES war plans which he vowed to stop among many other things he promised to stop.

But it is all Bush’s fault, not to mention Reagan or any other Republican you can remember.

Go get you another “smoothie” as you are not a soothsayer.. Just a dedicated Democrat.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 27th, 2010
1:20 pm

“Simply because a member sponsors an earmark for an entity that also happens to be a campaign contributor does not, on these two facts alone, support a claim that a member’s actions are being influenced by campaign contributions,” the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct said in a unanimous statement.

And of course, the moon is made of green cheese, as Neil Armstrong proved when he took “one small step for dairy products”.

And from the “how much is a cow worth?” department. About the same as a politician, evidently.

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/prize-breeding-cow-fetches-11-million-at-auction/19375206?icid=main

Soothsayer

February 27th, 2010
1:21 pm

Ronald Reagan – The Bonzo Years

This is hilarious! A preview of what life might be like under a Sarah Palin presidency.

Gosh, Dusty! I’m all hurt you would say those terrible things about me! Obama’s coming into office has been likened to arriving at an apartment fire with the three top floors burning and trying to put it out. The right desperately needs to “hang it” on Obama. Actually, I’m enjoying cheese omelette and hash browns as I write this.

RW-(the original)

February 27th, 2010
1:33 pm

Does anybody have a link to the Media Matters article where they’re wringing their hands and gnashing their teeth with outrageous outrage over Jay Bookman trying to incite people to decapitate our Congress Critters?

Soothsayer

February 27th, 2010
1:33 pm

Bud Wiser

February 27th, 2010
1:59 pm

Recently:

During a White House meeting with Vann Jones and other avowed communist leaders in America, President turns to Jones to say something, but his teleprompter fails at that exact moment, and he is left sputtering “uh…uh..uh…no..no..no..uh uh….”, and a steady stream of spittle drips from the corner of his mouth.

Jones and the other laugh at this hapless idiot, the meeting goes on.

jt

February 27th, 2010
2:01 pm

.I thought only the Republicans where corporate mistresses. We definetly need Mr. Rangel’s influence with our Health Care. Quickly. (although Obama-care doesn’t begin until he is long gone. We pay now though. Rangel would approve. .From some Washington Rag-

“Because these bills present immense potential for corporate welfare, special favors and rent-seeking, Rangel’s apparent tendency to turn policy debates into fundraising drives deserves some study.

In his first two years as Ways and Means chairman, Rangel, who ran virtually unopposed last fall despite a slew of ethical troubles, raised $5.1 million. In comparison, the two Republican Ways and Means chairmen from 1995 to 2007, former Reps. Bill Archer, Texas, and Bill Thomas, of California, raised only $4.2 million, combined, over the entire courses of their chairmanships. Rangel, in other words, raised considerably more in one election than his Republican counterparts did in six cycles.

Studying his campaign finance records helps reveal how Rangel has turned the gavel into a fundraising magic wand: If your business is affected by tax law, and you want to change the tax code, or ward off an undesirable change, you probably need to support Rangel’s campaigns, which, in effect, means paying for his legal defense.

One illustrative episode in Rangel’s orbit is the story of the Fire Sprinkler Incentive Act, which Rangel’s committee will probably advance this year. This tale shows how the contribution-to-legislation nexus on Capitol Hill can often be more about lawmakers exploiting businesses rather than businesses softening up lawmakers.

In the first three months of 2009, Rangel raised $279,959, with 59 percent of that coming from political action committees. Only one PAC contributed the maximum $10,000: The National Fire Sprinkler Association, which cut $5,000 checks Jan. 7 and Jan. 9.

A week later, NFSA President John Viniello told his Illinois and Wisconsin chapters that Rangel “will be supportive” of the Fire Sprinkler Incentive Act, according to the NFSA’s newsletter.

Two weeks after that, on Feb. 1,
the NFSA held a fundraiser for Rangel
– a $700-a-head breakfast in New York City, attended by a dozen executives and owners of fire sprinkler companies. “He’s crucial to the bill,” NFSA spokesman Jim Dalton explained to me in discussing the fundraiser.”

http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/node/1625

jt

February 27th, 2010
2:11 pm

When I think of the Republican party, I think of McCain(let’s regulate vitamins limit your free speech) and maybe Cantor(big government by uniform is OK), I feel sad and a little nausea when I see grown men wear make-up.

When I think of the Democrats. Charlie Rangel.

The guy who “writes the tax code (and) also oversees the budget” is cheating on his taxes and the woman who claimed she would help “create the most honest, most open, and most ethical Congress in history” is doing nothing about it.

The Democratic leadership is crooked and shameless. They deserve to be punished by the voters for their behavior.

Statism or Liberty. That is the only REAL choice.

Jan Rodricks

February 27th, 2010
2:12 pm

Always fun to read a rightwinger trying to sound outraged by minor Democratic ethical questions, when the previous Republican Congress set the modern standard for self-serving criminality without eliciting a peep from Limbaugh’s slavish followers. Are they so oblivious thet can’t see the hypocrisy? Or do they think they’re fooling the people who haven’t given up thinking?

mike

February 27th, 2010
2:14 pm

Soothsayer –

You seem to be ignorant of the fact that the Democrats have owned Congress since 2006. If Obama is arriving at a “burning building”, you need to get past your usual mindless partisanship and understand that it is not only people who dare not share your narrow minded views who are responsible for the blaze.

Of course, as you are a mindless partisan, all you want to do is believe that everything is the fault of those who don’t share your narrow minded views. Don’t you ever notice what a remarkable coincidence that is?

TnGelding

February 27th, 2010
2:20 pm

Let’s wait and see what the investigations turn up, if anything. Money not only talks, it walks. We definitely need to change our election process, tho.

Welcome Mr. President:

http://www.ajc.com/news/obama-to-visit-georgia-334603.html

TnGelding

February 27th, 2010
2:21 pm

mike

February 27th, 2010
2:14 pm

The buck stops in the Oval Office.

Bud Wiser

February 27th, 2010
2:28 pm

Interesting comment Gelded One, considering with this moron in office, NO buck stops anywhere but outside America (Japan and China, as our 2 chief creditors, come to mind); Obowo just cannot spend them fast enough.

Money flies through the once dignified Oval Office like leaves in a hurricane.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
2:40 pm

Jan–

A left-winger myself, but what do you mean by “minor” ethical lapses?

The rest of y’all–
Really did enjoy last p.m. Thanks!

Chile–
The White House has responded properly and timely. Chile is a first world country with a well-developed infrastructure and is a world leader in seismic preparedness. They’ll let the outside world know what they need.

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
2:55 pm

Soothsayer,

I do apologize for naming you a Dedicated Democrat which you said was a terrible thing to say.! Sorry! I just lost my cool there. But I agree with you. Just terrible!

By the way, do you have a nose that looks like Danny Thomas’s? Now don’t look away nervously. Just look in a mirror.

Please keep us posted on all the exciting 1982 news. We wouldn’t want to miss anything.
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Jan Rodricks

MINOR Democratic Ethical questions? What would you call a major one? Robbing the US Mint?

Rangel has repeatedly displayed a lack of ethics. I gather you find that not worth mentioning. Another dedicated Democrat!!

As to the previous Republican Congress, I imagine they were still getting over the shock of having a president impeached just before them. I gues you never noticed Bill Clinton, didya??

Sure, Republicans sit around all day listening to Limbaugh or somebody. Yeah, that’s it.

I’ll have to listen to Limbaugh sometime. He must be good. But, Scout’s honor, I’ve never heard him. Sounds like I am missing out if he keeps you upset.

Me, I get upset over trillions being added to the USA debt without a thought. Did not even have to listen to Limbaugh to know that is disaster for us and our children. Too bad you haven’t noticed.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
3:03 pm

Dusty–

Oh you really must listen to Limbaugh! Nanci Pelosi’s Siamese twin, joined at the yappin’ maw! Jumpin’ Jack and Jackess…You left out Barney Frank. I feel slighted. :-)

Scout

February 27th, 2010
3:03 pm

TERM LIMITS !

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
3:05 pm

Hi Josef,

Bad news from Chile. What is going on? Those tectonic plates are shaking and a’trembling. Haven’t heard a Richter scale number that high in a long time.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
3:07 pm

SCOUT–
Term limits, h*ll–OWTH!

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
3:11 pm

Now Josef,

I might as well have thumb screws as listen to another Pelosi. Barney Frank?? PLease…I am trying to be nice and ignore his speech impediment which causes me to ignore everything he says. Did I miss anything?

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
3:14 pm

DUSTY

The Cocos, Nazca, South American and Antarctic Plates all converge there and the fold patterns are such that when there’s a movement, it’s a wing-dinger.It also produces the worst tidal waves…so far, it seems this time that the waves so far have been relatively low…but those are the ones that hit South America, they tend to be worse on the western side of the Pacific…I don’t know which plate did the moving….a lot depends on that…that 1960 one down there wrecked havoc…

larry

February 27th, 2010
3:14 pm

The democrats took over on Jan.1, 2007, not 2006. Also, who benefited most from the war in Iraq ? Bush and the Republicans spent 5.6 trillon dollars while they had all three of branches in their pocket. Bush started two wars and passed two massive huge tax cuts and now neocons want to rewrite history and think everything happened since Jan. 20, 2009. Amazing , i guess you neocons think we have short memories. Wrong again.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
3:15 pm

DUSTY–
It ain’t what Barney says, it’s what he does! They threw him out of the Library of Congress because he kept bending over the pages….! :-)

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
3:17 pm

larry

The Bush administration didn’t have all three branches in their pockets. The executive and legislative, yes, but not the judiciary. They tried, but they didn’t make it.

larry

February 27th, 2010
3:18 pm

I guess you Republicans dont want to mention Jack Abramoff and all of the congressmen that were caught up in that . He also probably cost Ralph Reed the Lt. Gov. nomination in 2006.

larry

February 27th, 2010
3:20 pm

Besides, with the recent supreme court ruling, this is probably going to be a non-story in a couple of months.

Scout

February 27th, 2010
3:20 pm

josef:

Incumbunts just have too much of an advantage. Just my opinion. I heard the other day that Rangle hadn’t even been “challenged” for 40 years.

Salt & Light

February 27th, 2010
3:23 pm

“Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.”

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
3:25 pm

Scout–

We elect our Congressmen to “bring home the bacon” and as long as they do, they’re doing what we sent them there for…the ethics of how, be d*mned…OWTH!

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
3:27 pm

Salt and Light…
But just such has been going on for a long, long, time…agreed, it does make you stop and think, but after stopping and thinking, I doubt this is any more a sign of the End Times than we’ve seen before…

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
3:27 pm

JOSEF,

Hmmmm ..so Barney Frank got thrown out of the Library of Congress because he kiept bending over the pages…..whoops…I almost missed the contents there..You’re bad, josef…I’m gonna tell yo momma!.

Tsunamis…the waves don’t sound too bad. I think I saw 6 foot waves at Tybee when we went to the beach. The hurricanes always go to the beach with us. At least, we don’t get as much sunburn. Just windburn and wet.

Jenifer

February 27th, 2010
3:31 pm

Ain’t but one thing going to solve this:

PUBLIC FINANCING OF ELECTIONS!

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
3:32 pm

DUSTY

Laying the jokes aside (which in Barney’s case is hard to do), that scumbag has gotten by with some of the most immoral and unethical acts of just about any public figure and, no, I’m not talking about his personal improprieties and the people of Massachusetts keep putting him back in. And why not? He brings home the bacon.

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
3:35 pm

Salt & Light,

I’m not too worried about the”signs’ you mention suggesting the end of time, But I tell you one thing, if my gas bill goes any higher for my home, it is going to be the end of gas.

Back to firewood and a big black kettle! My ancestors did it. So can I! (I’ll be brave until my feet get cold!)

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
3:40 pm

Josef,

Barney Frank brings home the FATBACK, Bacon is too lean. He is one of many and nobody says a word. They make him chairman of a committee to make decisions! I tell you…it’s those DEDICATED DEMOCRATS. (My Republicans are all honest gentlemen!!!!)

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
3:41 pm

DUSTY

Big black pot you say?

“Double, double, toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble…”

I’m going have to steer real clear of you, my liver having been pickled in Manischewitz!

Rightwing Troll

February 27th, 2010
3:44 pm

mike deriding someone for being a partisan… that’s rich…

WHY IS OBAMA NOT IN CHILE???? WHY????!????

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
3:46 pm

Rightwing–

Why? Reckon maybe they don’t need him? ‘Sides, Sister Hillary is on her way down Tuesday, that is if this didn’t change her schedule…

Rightwing Troll

February 27th, 2010
3:47 pm

Term limits huh? Wasn’t one of the main tenets of the “contract with America”? Those crazy Republicans abandoned that waste of paper as soon as they got in thier offices in 94… The more things change…

Rightwing Troll

February 27th, 2010
3:48 pm

WHY IS OBAMA NOT HELPING THE PEOPLE OF CHILE????????? WHY??????????

Kamchak

February 27th, 2010
3:51 pm

WHY IS OBAMA NOT IN CHILE???? WHY????!????

I think the bigger question is what is he doing to stop the tsunami heading for Hawaii?

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
3:53 pm

K’chak

I heard he’s on his way to Hawaii…wants to go for a stroll… :-)

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
3:54 pm

Josef,

Beware not the boiling pot……

“My honor is my life; both grow in one’

Take honor from me, and my life is done;

Then, dear my liege, mine honor let me try;

In that I live, and for that will I die”.

And if I die with Manischevitz, the more the merry!!

Kamchak

February 27th, 2010
4:00 pm

I heard he’s on his way to Hawaii…wants to go for a stroll…

He doesn’t have to set foot ashore—all he must do is be aboard ship and say “Quiet! Be still!”

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
4:02 pm

DUSTY

“The greatest way to live with honor in this world is to be what we pretend to be.”

Seneca (I think it was)

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
4:02 pm

Obama is going to Hawaii?

He’s supposed to come to Atlanta.

Some people will do anything to get off schedule!!!!

Well, he can come back for Freaknik.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
4:07 pm

K’chak

And then do we get loaves and fishes? Wine from the spigot?

“The mass of men only want bread and circuses.” –Juvenal

Oh, Happy Day! We’re already halfway there with the Greatest Show on Earth in DC!

Kamchak

February 27th, 2010
4:09 pm

And then do we get loaves and fishes?

Gotta have the “special” baskets to pull that one off.

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
4:10 pm

Well, Josef,

Seneca is good and brief but I like King Richard II better…. and who is pretending (asks Goody Two Shoes)?? We’uns is the real thing…’specially us politicians.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
4:11 pm

Freaknik? Now there’s a sure sign of the Apocalypse, at least in my neighborhood. Atlanta ain’t New Orleans…don’t know how to throw a party worth a hoot…last time, the planning had us locked in the neighborhood for three days.

Southern Comfort

February 27th, 2010
4:14 pm

I see the usuals are here tossing the usual tired insults.

What y’all fail to realize is that the ethics committee that matters the most is the one that casts the votes in November. When you continue to be friggin’ robots and vote for someone because of the R or D behind their name and not because of their actions or inactions, you’re the root cause of what you gripe about.

As far as the people bribing, hell, you’re probably paying for that too!! Check your cabinets, pantries, or drawers in your home or office and you probably have purchased products that enabled the lobbyist to do their thing.

Quit b*tching about ethics and use your votes and wallets to take care of business.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
4:14 pm

DUSTY

I wasn’t talking about us! On my honor, ma’am! I was talking bout our Publicans–all of ‘em and not just the R-E ones!

K’chak

Special baskets, eh? I hear Madame de Farge knows where we can get ‘em wholesale…OWTH!!

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
4:22 pm

SoCo

“I see the usuals are here tossing the usual tired insults.”

Ah, say, Suh, Ah take umbrage, On my hon-uh, Ah find Miz Dusty’s insults quite refreshing!

Seriously, though, the point about supporting them through buying their products is well taken. There’s a great deal of truth to money talks and bulls*t walks. That money for corporate kickback ultimately comes from our pockets and it’s time to speak up and put the bs on a leash…

Southern Comfort

February 27th, 2010
4:23 pm

josef

The planners of “Freaknik” would do themselves a great deal of good to talk to the Krewes in NOLA to find out how to throw a “real” party.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
4:30 pm

SoCo

Seriously. Back when we were having the public outcry, New Orleans offered to help in the planning, but the arrogant crews at City Hall took offense…New Orleans just shook its collective head and said, oh, well, we offered…a lot of cities around the world planning and dealing with big scale public merrymaking events send folks to New Orleans…Down home has its problems, no doubt, but on this one they do a d*mned fine job of it…folks there say, only in half jest, that if the krewes had been put in charge during Katrina, it would have turned out a lot different…

Southern Comfort

February 27th, 2010
4:30 pm

josef

I was referring to the Bush nicknames, dummycrat, etc… Dusty doesn’t typically fall into that category. Long ago I started a list of companies I would try to avoid spending a penny on if possible. The list doesn’t grow unless it’s something serious enough that I feel that I can no longer support them in good conscience. Working in retail, I know how important it is for people to purchase products to provide jobs for others, but when a company does something that really ticks me off, I just say a prayer that any job lost by my actions will be supplanted by a company who’s products I continue to use.

Southern Comfort

February 27th, 2010
4:31 pm

Between the krewes and the sanitation dept, they would have had NOLA up and running 2-3 weeks after Katrina tops!!

stands for decibels

February 27th, 2010
4:35 pm

Until and unless the public is willing to support tough campaign finance laws, including perhaps public financing of campaigns, we’re going to see this kind of behavior.

Take the “perhaps” out of that sentence, and bash it into everyone’s brains, and maybe things will change a bit.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
4:38 pm

SoCo

We have our list, too. I won’t go into why here and now, but when we cashed in our Southern Company and Holiday Inn paper and wrote telling them why, we got a splendid set of replies from VIPS. When we called to lodge a complaint and said nothing about the coin of the realm, we weren’t even responded to. We didn’t change their stances, to be sure, but they did grovel and, well, the money went elsewhere and has had equally good returns and we can sleep at night, too.

Pogo

February 27th, 2010
4:43 pm

Your take is my take Jay on this one. These are scum no matter what party.

And Fannie wants more of our billions that we don’t have. And GM’s CEO makes $3000/hr and received a 9 million dollar bonus for last year. Obviously taxpayer money is easy to spend for them. If all of this wasn’t so sad, it would be funny.

Southern Comfort

February 27th, 2010
4:44 pm

I got the letters and stuff from U-Haul when I told them where to hitch their trailers. They even offered me free service. I told the guy that I’d mortgage my home to pay for moving before I’d accept free service from them. It wasn’t quite that pg when I stated it, but he seemed to have gotten the message quite clearly because I didn’t hear from them anymore.

Dusty

February 27th, 2010
4:53 pm

Ah Suh Josef,

I take yo umbrage and give you mah hegemony! Fair ’nuff?

But sounds like SoCo has had a tough day with the bad ones and that has to be tiresome!! So glad he is watching out for us. But, we’d better behave ’cause SoCo has a BIG gun; and he knows how to use it!

Even with all the good times here, I must leave for a while. Enjoyed the afternoon.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
4:53 pm

SoCo–

Heh, heh! The voucher from Holiday Inn (a rather flattering amount, I might add) was copied and the original sent back with a diplomatically phrased missive telling them in which corporate orifice they could stick it…the reply to that one was a classic and I would have sure hated to have been the public relations office employee charged with writing it! I wrote her back and congratulated her on her command of the tools of her trade and sent a copy to her superior suggesting that perhaps the amount of the voucher could be awarded her for service above and beyond the call of duty. The terse reply from them was that “proper acknowledgement” had been taken. I checked back a while later to see if she was still there and she was. So I could sleep well.

Southern Comfort

February 27th, 2010
5:00 pm

josef

That had to be one hell of a response!!

Dusty

Not a bad day, but I’m tired of the same old same here. It seems like a broken record sometimes. You have those that like to talk the talk, but they refuse to do anything to change their environment. I tell my co-workers the same thing. If you don’t like the way things are done, either get into a position to change them or leave and go somewehere else.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 27th, 2010
5:21 pm

Well, I was going to get on here but I see Sister Dusty is all over this blog like bad chili on a hot dog. Don’t she have some germs to look at in her microscope or maybe a Whopper to buy at Burger King?

So I’ll just say have a good Saturday night everybody.

RW-(the original)

February 27th, 2010
5:22 pm

I see the usuals are here tossing the usual tired insults.

SoCo,

That why God gave us a scroll device and frankly it’s Jay B’s blog so it’s kind of up to him what level of discourse he’ll allow.

Dusty,

I think the talking heads do a disservice when they talk about a six foot wave. It’s more like a six foot wall of water coming past the point where most of the normal waves would have begun to recede.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
5:25 pm

SoCo
St Elsewhere…

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
5:27 pm

RW

It’s Jay’s blog, for sure, and so long as you don’t poke him in certain sore spots, he’s pretty even tempered…he does seem to get riled over mike, though, I still haven’t figured it out…reckon maybe the girl in the orange shorts like mike’s moves more…?

Jenifer

February 27th, 2010
5:32 pm

Despite Running A Health Industry ‘Trade Association,’ Gingrich Says He Will Not Register As A Lobbyist

Newty Newt’s just continuing his Contract ON America.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/27/newt-gingrich-lobbyist/#comments

Salt & Light

February 27th, 2010
5:39 pm

josef & Dusty:

Regarding …………. ““Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.”

One never knows but think this through on the above prophecy. When it was given, people only knew what happened in “their” area. Now we know what happens anywhere else in the world immediately ………….. therefor we know about these things.

When the “fearful events and great signs from heaven” start (some wayward meteors? comets?) we had better wake up.

That’s why I’m ready to go whether it’s an earthquake or a heart attack !

Southern Comfort

February 27th, 2010
5:46 pm

RW

I scroll most of the time, but I don’t expect the first 3-5 posts to go that route. The conversation here usually starts off fine and degrades as it progresses. Very rarely does it start off with a hint of lemon. I respect Jay for allowing people to say what’s on their mind. It kinda bothers me when he bans people, but as stated, it’s his blog.

Southern Comfort

February 27th, 2010
5:46 pm

got’cha josef.

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
5:47 pm

Salt and Light…

Like you, I’m ready whenever from whatever and don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on it…Granddaddy always said that this was G-d’s business and not his, his job was to live each and every day as if it were his last and to treat everyone the way he wanted to be treated and take joy in every minute he had here on earth…

josef nix

February 27th, 2010
5:59 pm

As has been commented on by others, a case in point is Wal Mart…we raise one h*lluva stink about the inscrutible orientals subverting our economy, but does that keep us out of the K-mart lot? L-rd forbid! One of the funniest, and saddest, things I ever saw was an anti-Chinese bumper sticker on a car turning to enter the acres of free paved parking at the ever-so-conveniently located Wal Mart which, when built, had replaced a family farm and now open was putting the moms and pops out of business…

Proflavors

February 27th, 2010
6:03 pm

The congress is supposed to represent the electorate. The electorate is supposed to keep track of what their representatives are doing, and then give feedback to the congress, and the newspapers, and the blogs, so as to keep in touch with how everyone is reading the actions of congress.

Then, a select few dozens of the electorate are supposed to form mindlessly violent mobs, and grab ropes, and torches, and shovels and storm the halls of congress, and hang everyone responsible, (after a fair trial of course).

This IS what the founding fathers had in mind, and I for one applaud their vision!!

RW-(the original)

February 27th, 2010
6:05 pm

All this St Elsewhere stuff reminds me of when the DUers and Koz Kidz would come over here to stir up trouble and then go back to those sites to talk behind our backs.