Wow! The Republicans were right about the stimulus after all
So who was right?
The congressional Republicans, who have gone around the country claiming that the stimulus bill has created no new jobs and stimulated no new economic growth, or the congressional Republicans, who have gone around their home states and districts bragging that stimulus projects would create a lot of new jobs?
Well, The Congressional Budget Office has looked into the question, and it turns out that the Republicans were right! The stimulus bill has indeed produced a lot of new jobs and increased economic activity.
According to the report:
In sum, CBO estimates that in the fourth quarter of calendar year 2009, ARRA’s policies:
– Raised real GDP by between 1.5 percent and 3.5 percent;
– Lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.5 percentage points and 1.1 percentage points;
– Increased the number of people employed by between 1.0 million and 2.1 million;
– Increased the number of full-time-equivalent jobs by 1.4 million to 3.0 million compared with what those amounts would have been otherwise.
The CBO also estimates that the biggest impact of the stimulus is yet to come. It predicts that job growth produced by the stimulus will cut the unemployment rate by 1.9 percentage points for the rest of the year, boost GDP by as much as 4.5 percent in the second quarter of this year and increase the number of people employed by as much as 3.3 million people.
By the way, CBO also compared the stimulus effect of various aspects of the legislation. Direct spending by state and federal governments had the biggest effect, producing four to five times as much beneficial impact as tax cuts to higher income taxpayers.
Just in case you were wondering.
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The Poll
February 23rd, 2010
11:16 pm
I have spoken. You must obey.
md
February 23rd, 2010
11:17 pm
“What can we do? Spend and buy American”
Careful with that one as the “foreign” products are sold by companies that are owned and employ many, many Americans. Would love to see it, but won’t work in actuality as cheap labor allows for cheap products which we all demand.
And for those that say make it here with the higher labor – its a cycle – labor goes up, cost of goods goes up – cost of goods goes up, demand goes down – demand goes down, people lose their jobs.
Sound familiar?
We're Doomed
February 23rd, 2010
11:18 pm
What else is there to say.
astroturf
February 23rd, 2010
11:18 pm
linda I was refering to your post of 10:01
Linda
February 23rd, 2010
11:19 pm
Mick@10:16, Are you saying my husband is living in the past with his original owner yeller (not yellow) ‘69 Shelby Cobra GT 350 Mustang?
Bruno
February 23rd, 2010
11:20 pm
“I get that you fear obama and all but he can be defeated by the ballot, the way its always been done if that is what the majority wants. Government is we the people, why should you fear that?”
Mick–In some ways, you’re right. Obama won’t be in office forever, and hopefully any damage he does can be undone if it is the people’s will. At the same time, what Obama is pushing for is a huge step in the wrong direction. I don’t want a “guaranteed” life–I’d rather choose my own life and either enjoy or suffer the consequences. And as I linked above, that “guaranteed life” that you keep calling for comes with a huge price tag, as witnessed by the income differential between the US and Europe.
Mick
February 23rd, 2010
11:21 pm
md
It’s too late for me to spar with you, but damn if you don’t lay down some cold, hard facts…
Dusty
February 23rd, 2010
11:21 pm
Well, I won’t get in this taxes thing because that is far away from my field of expertise or whatever.
But I see that I missed a question from Linda. She asked: “Where does gas come from that you buy for your American made car?”
Let’s see. First I stop and fill at Q-T where they have filled their underground tanks with gasoline from a tanker truck. The tanker truck filled up from a gasoline tank farm on the other side of town. The tank farm filled its silos from a large underground pipe that carries gasoline across country from oil refineries. probably in Texas. The oil is mixed and comes in quanity order from these countries, #1 Canada #2 Mexico #3 Nigeria #4 Saudi Arabia #5 Venezuela #6 Iraq. Some by pipeline. Some by tanker ships. It originates from prehistoric plant life. i.e. fossil fuel.
It does make my American made car happy. Hope I have answered your question. Anything else??
astroturf
February 23rd, 2010
11:24 pm
I will not buy foreign products even if it employs americans the earnings still go to the big dog who owns the company I would only buy from a company owned by and employing americans so all the dollars stay here. I cant say I buy every thing american because sometimes I cant find an item I need that is made in america, and that is a shame.
Mick
February 23rd, 2010
11:27 pm
Dusty – love your observations and wit – keep it coming miss diva and I mean that with the utmost respect!!!
Linda @11:19 I have no clue what the hell you are talking about but if I had a shelby cobra I’d still be tearing it up…..
Bruno
February 23rd, 2010
11:28 pm
“Careful with that one as the “foreign” products are sold by companies that are owned and employ many, many Americans. Would love to see it, but won’t work in actuality as cheap labor allows for cheap products which we all demand.”
From my perspective, md, once the globalization genie was released from the bottle, there’s no putting her back in there. No good argument can be made that consumers should be forced to buy more expensive consumer goods. And other than folks voluntarily buying American-made products, there’s no good way to limit competition from abroad. Trade tariffs don’t work well because the targeted country always responds by raising tariffs on our exports, which does nothing but freeze all trade.
The ultimate problem is the huge disparity in living conditions here and abroad. Smart computer programmers in India are willing to work for 1/10 of our wages. Until their living standards are similar to ours, we can’t match that.
Linda
February 23rd, 2010
11:30 pm
Mick@10:20, I just assumed from your comments that you don’t watch Fox News, fair & balanced, but only watch the alphabet news channels which don’t keep you in “the loop.” My brain is washed & clean.
md
February 23rd, 2010
11:31 pm
Mick,
Also, about that majority rule…..that is why we are a republic, but with a 2 party system, enough folks become dependent on the gov’t, it will be all downhill from there.
Bruno
February 23rd, 2010
11:35 pm
md:
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
-Henning W. Prentis, Jr.
Mick
February 23rd, 2010
11:36 pm
Linda
I rarely watch tv – I read. I suggest you have other sources besides fox which claims to be fair and balanced just like wendy’s hamburgers which claim to be hot and juicy. Hamburgers can be hot but that juicy part, well, I always thought they were more greasy…
Mick
February 23rd, 2010
11:38 pm
md
**enough folks become dependent on the gov’t, it will be all downhill from there.**
OK – I’ll bite. If that were true then why didn’t we go downhill after the new deal?
md
February 23rd, 2010
11:38 pm
Bruno – agree.
No backing up now. Need to move forward and play the game better than the other guy and expand in our areas of expertise. New products, technologies, etc are the way forward.
The only way to put the genie back in the bottle would be another depression – worldwide. Then its back to square one for all.
Dusty
February 23rd, 2010
11:43 pm
Mick,
I was just reporting Bookman’s reasons when someone asked him, not me, why he was never an imbeded journalist. The present conflicts have already lasted over eight years. I was so impressed by Bookman’s errrr .humility! I remember when AJC sent a young woman there who wrote very well. Mona Basu I believe was her name.
Ever heard of WWII Ernie Pyle? Now that was a man who could write from the firing lines, a real journalist. Good reading.
Getting late. Busy tomorrow. Goodnight…
Bruno
February 23rd, 2010
11:43 pm
md–I like your positive way of looking at things, and I feel the same way. We have led the world in the past due to our originality and inguenity. We can let the rest of the world do our grunt labor while we lead in innovation and management skills.
I empathize with those who say “buy American”, and if done voluntarily, it is a good thing. I support local business AMAP, especially if the quality is higher. I avoid most foreign-made products due to the poor quality.
md
February 23rd, 2010
11:44 pm
“OK – I’ll bite. If that were true then why didn’t we go downhill after the new deal?”
Many will argue that we have by canning the gold standard.
All smoke and mirrors and funny money since???????
Mick
February 23rd, 2010
11:46 pm
md
**Many will argue that we have by canning the gold standard**
OK, but what do YOU say?
Bruno
February 23rd, 2010
11:46 pm
Speaking of foreign-made, I must have put the jinx on J A Solar by buying their stock last week. It’s gone straight down ever since, and I ‘m not sure why. I still believe they are a solid company, so expect the price to perk up again soon.
Do you have any news to support the downturn in price?
Linda
February 23rd, 2010
11:49 pm
Astroturf@10:32, I didn’t say, “the rest are unfair & unbalanced.” It’s just that when someone on MSNBC says he has a feeling up his leg after an Obama siting, I get a little turned off with “news” coverage.
We half-watch ABC News almost every night & we still watch CNN, etc. from time to time for fair & balanced, but they don’t seem to be unbiased.
Mick
February 23rd, 2010
11:49 pm
**All smoke and mirrors and funny money since???????**
That’s why I think cheney was onto something when he said deficits don’t matter. Why should they when we (usa) make the rules concerning the worldwide monetary system?
md
February 23rd, 2010
11:51 pm
“Do you have any news to support the downturn in price?”
peaks and valleys – the joys of stocks.
I think they will do fine – long term. Everything is subject to fluctuation short term until the global economy truly gets on its feet.
Mick
February 23rd, 2010
11:52 pm
Got to hit the hay, my eyes are buggin – nite all-
walter
February 23rd, 2010
11:53 pm
If only Bush and Uncle Dick didn’t lie to the entire world about Iraq. Could have saved $10 Billion / month for, how many years now? Just imagine spending all that money here in the U.S. on American citizens instead of in Iraq. Imagine over 4,000 of our best servicemen and women still alive instead of dying for Uncle Dick’s friends. Imagine healthcare for all Americans, thanks to the money we would not have spent in Iraq. Everytime Republicans try to tell me how wrong Obama is, I remind them of the dictatorial Republican President who managed to put this country on the downward spiral Obama inherited. Republicans. We put our party before country.
md
February 23rd, 2010
11:58 pm
For the sake of debate Walter – if Iraq was about oil and that oil was taken off the world market, what effect would it have had on the world economy? Would we actually be better off or worse?
I for one don’t know – how about you?
Linda
February 24th, 2010
12:05 am
Mick@11:08, Ronald Reagan said, “Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem.” This was not my fantasy.
I’m old. I have never been more fearful for my country, not for myself, but for my children, grandchildren, great grand children, etc. We always want things to be better for our decendants, but that won’t happen again for generations. We have already committed generational theft.
Linda
February 24th, 2010
12:12 am
Astrofurf@11:18, We have the most educated, intelligent president in history. He taught Constitutional Law. He understands the Constitution. He merely disagrees with it.
Linda
February 24th, 2010
12:15 am
Dusty@11:21, Would you feel better if you could fill your American-made car with American-produced gas?
Bruno
February 24th, 2010
12:21 am
“I remind them of the dictatorial Republican President who managed to put this country on the downward spiral Obama inherited.”
And I keep reminding deluded Democrats that their Democratic members of Congress voted overwhelmingly for both the Iraq War and the Patriot Act. Furthermore, the Democratic overseers of the banking system did nothing to stave off the financial meltdown despite repeated warnings from Bush, McCain, and other Republicans.
Keep believing that it’s all the Republican’s fault. Keep feeding that hate.
Linda
February 24th, 2010
12:26 am
Mick@11:27, You have no clue what I’m talking about having a Shelby Cobra? It’s not mine. It was pre-Linda. You would NOT be tearing it up. You would be beaming up to the teenagers coming to the door with invites to the local McDonalds cruise nights.
ken
February 24th, 2010
12:29 am
The stimulas is so good that Dothan Al school system is laying off teachers !!! Same in many states. Why Jay ???
Linda
February 24th, 2010
12:32 am
Mick@11:36, The UK knows more about our situation in the US than most Americans. Without the UK newspapers, we would not know the dozens of scandals regarding man-made global warming, thanks to the alphabet media.
Linda
February 24th, 2010
12:36 am
Goodnight, everyone, both liberals & conservatives. Jay can stop monitoring me & go to bed. May God bless you all.
MAC
February 24th, 2010
1:15 am
The only rational stimulus measurement is cost per job CREATED. In this case it’s well over $100,000.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
February 24th, 2010
5:23 am
Yep, I didn’t read this wrong-
The average home price in metro Atlanta dropped about 1 percent from November to December — and that’s good news, a housing industry analyst said.-Urinal
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
February 24th, 2010
5:25 am
KABUL, Afghanistan— Afghanistan’s president has taken control of a formerly independent body that monitors election fraud, raising concern Tuesday that he’s reneging on promises to clean up corruption and cronyism-Urinal
Hey! That just happened in America too!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
February 24th, 2010
5:28 am
After all of obozo’s DADT pomp and bluster, this is how it all winds down to a close, with the AJC issuing a sedative for the moonbats to suck on-
WASHINGTON — Top Army and Air Force officers said Tuesday they would be reluctant to overturn a 17-year policy that prohibits gays from serving openly in the military without more time to ascertain it won’t hurt the services. -Urinal
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
February 24th, 2010
5:33 am
Business section headline in bold-
Ryla to hire 1,400 temp census workers -Urinal
So if you need a 7 dollar and hour job for three months to see you through to retirement, you’re set!
Party time!
Well, except for the 1,400,000 other people you will be competing with for those jobs.
Rightwing Troll
February 24th, 2010
5:43 am
I’m with Josef, any real numbers on all the “gubbimint jobs” that Obama has “created”???
I’m wondering if this isn’t yet another nut sack delusion. Much like when W’s stimulus money was just sitting there unspent and the nut sacks were red faced and screaming about Obama redistributing “our” wealth and spending “our” money…
Rightwing Troll
February 24th, 2010
5:45 am
Jay watches us while we sleep???
I knew he could plant messages on my laptop, and I knew he watched my as I type my blog messages, but I did not know he could watch me while I sleep…
That’s just creepy.
I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
February 24th, 2010
6:19 am
Seven hundred and eighty-seven billion dollars! Think about it. To give you an index into how mind-boggling this is, read some articles written over the last decade about the coming crisis in Social Security and Medicaid or the rising federal deficit. Even when they depict the doomsday scenario, all these programs spinning out of control, no one projects a number more than 400 billion. To think that eight hundred billion could be pirated from the public treasury in one swoop without one concrete and indisputable accomplishment they can point to in triumph. Wow!-AmSpec
Just sayin…
The Eyes Have It
February 24th, 2010
6:26 am
Conservatives Turn On Scott Brown Over Jobs Bill Vote: ‘Low Life Scum Hypocrite!’
A Republican working for the people instead of the party. And this is how some of them show their gratitude. Ingrates.
TnGelding
February 24th, 2010
6:31 am
You know CBO is nothing but a shill for the Dems and WH. $800 billion over 2+ years is very modest in what was a $15 trillion economy. It certainly could have been spent better, but it had to have some positive effect.
The Eyes Have It
February 24th, 2010
6:32 am
Blackwater Took Hundreds Of US Weapons From Military, Afghan Police Using ‘South Park’ Alias
So the DoD just hires a bunch of thugs, common criminals, thieves to do its bidding. Does our military have no standards whatsoever that apply to contractors.
The Eyes Have It
February 24th, 2010
6:35 am
It certainly could have been spent better, but it had to have some positive effect.
Didn’t you get the memo. It only has a positive effect if a Republican congressman says so in front of their constituency. So, that means it had a very positive effect. It’s like Turtle Soup.
Finn McCool
February 24th, 2010
6:38 am
The wingnutters are aflutter today.
squirm
squirm
squirm
rather unsightly. Have you folks no dignity?
TnGelding
February 24th, 2010
6:39 am
Rightwing Troll
February 24th, 2010
5:43 am
He needs to hire more auditors at the IRS to close the budget deficit. Noncompliance has to be at an all-time high. How many people do you know that aren’t paying their fair share? Not to mention beefing up the border patrol, FBI and other vital agencies that are understaffed.
Finn McCool
February 24th, 2010
6:41 am
TN,
What will also help is closing off the off-shore tax havens.
Finn McCool
February 24th, 2010
6:44 am
I found out what tripped up Scott Brown: Someone said Democratic Party and he misunderstood it as Democratic Panties.
A few hours later he was heard saying he was all for a Pubic Option.
How’s that Scotty Browney thingy working out for you wingnutters?
TnGelding
February 24th, 2010
6:53 am
Finn McCool
February 24th, 2010
6:41 am
You got that right. What took so long?
Finn McCool
February 24th, 2010
6:44 am
From hero to zero. And MA already had socialized medicine.
TnGelding
February 24th, 2010
6:54 am
USA! USA!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5h0QC7bditrEb3wYz_6_b-gsGGDxA
Doggone/GA
February 24th, 2010
6:55 am
“What will also help is closing off the off-shore tax havens”
Finn…to be just a bit snarky, how would you propose that be done? Invade them all? We can’t “close” off-shore tax havens, but what we COULD do is to change OUR tax codes to “recover” the taxes from any business whose official address is located on one of those “tax haven” countries/locations that does business in the USA.
The Eyes Have It
February 24th, 2010
6:55 am
Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) believes that the U.S. has the best health care system in the world.
Joe Wilson, how many times do I have to remind you. You Lie!
Doggone/GA
February 24th, 2010
6:56 am
“You Lie!”
I wouldn’t say that, he’s probably right…or close to right. He just keeps leaving off the rest of the sentence: “if you can afford to pay for it”
The Eyes Have It
February 24th, 2010
6:58 am
Rep. Wilson: I’ll take you to the poorest county in South Carolina, Allendale, a very nice hospital. I’ll take you to another county which is very depressed.
Ratigan: South Carolina has the 33rd worst health care in America, according to The Commonwealth Fund. America has the most expensive health care in the world and the 37th highest quality. We pay more than any country in the world. We have huge amounts of money going to special interests. Our budget is dominated by health care and people don’t have coverage.
The Eyes Have It
February 24th, 2010
7:05 am
Even in a favorable political climate for Republicans, Cao’s contributions have fallen sharply since he was alone among 178 GOP House members to vote for the health care bill on Nov. 7.
Awwww. The poor Republican. His party does not love him any more.
josef nix
February 24th, 2010
7:07 am
Rightwing–
@ 5:45
Jay doesn’t just believe in Santa Claus, he IS Santa Claus…
“He sees you when you’re sleeping,
He knows when you’re awake.
He knows when you’ve been bad or good,
So be good, for goodness sake!”
But you’ll have to push in line in front of the girl in orange shorts if you want to sit on his lap…
Just kidding…
Y’all have a nice day and, you can send my check to my classroom. That’s where I’ll be at least until the next stimulating round of budget cuts…
Place nice and have a good day…
ken R
February 24th, 2010
7:08 am
Jay,
Please show this article to the millions of people out of work and losing their homes, I’m sure they would agree.
The GDP is usually increased by automation. not necessarily by hiring people. I hope for everyones sake that things really do get better I just can’t see how you spend your way out of it.
The Eyes Have It
February 24th, 2010
7:15 am
The most interesting aspect of the whole exchange is the tone that Nye and Bastardi take. Nye takes the calm approach, explaining his reasoning in a levelheaded way:
Carbon dioxide is a very strong greenhouse gas. It has a very long residence time in the atmosphere. It is making the world warmer. Along with methane and other human activities. In whose best interest is it to deny this stuff?
That Bill Nye. He’s just so scientific and that’s terrific. So thoughtful, calm and level-headed with such clear and reasonable and rational and logical comments.
bob
February 24th, 2010
7:30 am
The stimulus worked so well we still need a jobs bill, why ?
TnGelding
February 24th, 2010
7:32 am
Doggone/GA
February 24th, 2010
6:55 am
“Closing off” isn’t the same as closing. You make a good point, tho.
TnGelding
February 24th, 2010
7:34 am
bob
February 24th, 2010
7:30 am
The stimulus wasn’t big enough?
Seriously, corporate America has to step up to the plate. And it’s past time.
Bubba
February 24th, 2010
7:37 am
Is my math right here? The stimulus was $3.6 trillion and it created 2 million jobs (at most). Isn’t that $1.8 million per job?
Normal
February 24th, 2010
7:38 am
Ryla is right next door to where I work. Big organization. And I hear they are paying 11.00 to 18.00 for the census work. Rumors being what they are…
BTW, Happy day to all of y’all…
Doggone/GA
February 24th, 2010
7:41 am
“Is my math right here?”
It hasn’t all been spent. The last report I heard was a few days ago and it said only about 30% had been spent so far. Plus, you have to factor in the jobs that, yes were not “created”, but that were also “saved” because it is spending that creates new jobs AND maintains existing jobs.
Scooter
February 24th, 2010
7:43 am
Happy day to you too Normal. Don’t work to hard!
Scooter
February 24th, 2010
7:51 am
Why don’t they put all that stimulus money directly into the bank accts. of the American tax payers and maybe those folks could keep thier homes and feed thier family. I’m sure the IRS has a list of all of us.
The Eyes Have It
February 24th, 2010
7:51 am
Republicans never were too good with math or just plain numbers.
The Eyes Have It
February 24th, 2010
7:54 am
Where is corporate america hiding out these days and why do the Republicans keep forgeting to ask those that are supposed to be doing the trickle down stuff where the jobs are. Why are they all turning to the Democrats and Obama when times are hard, looking for handouts. That does not sound very Republican. Or does it.
stands for decibels
February 24th, 2010
8:04 am
Bruno, if you come back around to this now-deceased thread, I just wanted to address this.
First you said:
They are talking about income taxes, which from my understanding forms the bulk of taxes collected from individuals.
then you said:
My counterpoint is that the bottom 50% of wage earners are paying virtually nothing in income taxes.
Well, let’s do remember that income taxes, while significant, are but 43-33% of what the fed collects in revenues.
And I find it bit irksome that the lower end’s contribution in social insurance taxes gets completely swept aside in these arguments. As that particular chart would indicate, this contribution is just about as high as that made by the poor, put-upon upper-income earners paying income taxes.
(Not singling out Bruno at all–he’s usually pretty reasonable about this stuff.)
Corey
February 24th, 2010
8:06 am
Jay, you could warn these conservative lwmmings about the impending danger of an approaching bear, and they stick thier fingers in their ears while being mauled by one.
Robert
February 24th, 2010
8:10 am
The Eyes Have It,
Corprate America, as well as small business in America, is still here and waiting on the sidelines. There is too much uncertainty right now with health care, so job growth will continue to be stagnate until that is sorted out. If the Democrat’s plans are moved forward with reconciliation, you can rule out ant decreases in unemployment. I think temp agencies and contractor work might pick up though.
Donovan
February 24th, 2010
8:16 am
Well, just in case you were wondering Bookman, hanging your hat on “estimates”, is wishful thinking. Nice try. Just like your upcoming bipartisan summit, trying to put lipstick on a pig does not change the fact that it is still a pig. Once money runs out this year to the states there will be a sorry reckoning to deal with. Those short lived job bumps are going to evaporate. Besides, Obama’s slush fund goody bag of money will only be doled out in the future for votes and the pork will be wasted. It’s sop for the Democrat Party. Nevertheless, come November it’s all academic when the loss of jobs throw out your liberal buddies.
Morrus
February 24th, 2010
8:21 am
Vote out the incumbents and start over
Normal
February 24th, 2010
8:32 am
Scooter,
Am I busy? Think of a one legged man in a butt kicking contest!
But…it’s job security!
lovelyliz
February 24th, 2010
8:40 am
“You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don’t matter,”
-Dick Cheney
retired early
February 24th, 2010
8:45 am
NOW the GOP is concerned about the deficit. WOW!! Where were they during the Bush years when his administration doubled the national debt; When I complained that our grandchildren would be paying for that tax cut for the wealthy which ate the surplus. When I complained to my GOP Co workers that they were stealing from their own children and grandchildren to pay for our wars. Never before in the history of this country has the level of hippocracy been so high and widespread.
If you truly loved this country, you would be pulling for this current admin to succeed and not hope it fails like the Rush followers. They are traitors, not Americans.
I am a retired white male living in the south. I know racism when I encounter it, and that is exactly what this partisan bickering is all about. Shame on you.
stands for decibels
February 24th, 2010
8:52 am
ugh. meant to post 43-44% up there, not “44-33%”
DAVID: AJC Truth Detector
February 24th, 2010
8:59 am
JAY………IT IS ALL CREDIT CARD MONEY……that has to be paid by in HIGHER TAXes….IT IS PHONY MONEY..$$$$$$
DAVID: AJC Truth Detector
February 24th, 2010
9:01 am
PARTISANship IS Goooooooooood…..Means socialists are doing any damage.
Don
February 24th, 2010
9:03 am
People who build highways aren’t government workers. Stimulus funds didn’t created government jobs – the jobs are funded by gov’t funds, which is different, but conservatives can’t understand that. Road (for example) have always been paid for by gov’t funds, but do you call the people building them gov’t workers? Of course not. The jobs added have not been in federal or state agencies. The claims that they are all government jobs are made by the same people who claim that no jobs have been created. And the alternative was?
Scout
February 24th, 2010
9:12 am
Mick/Linda/josef:
Good comments all. My last ones on this thread are this:
A democracy is the only form of government I can think of that is automatically set up to “allow” its own destruction. That is what we must guard against and my personal belief is that we are failing in that regard. Time, as always, will tell.
Pokey
February 24th, 2010
11:14 am
JB,
If $800 billion was SO good, then why didn’t we double it?? WHY??!!
Jay
February 24th, 2010
12:22 pm
“Jay and others here like to claim that everyone’s contribution to society is equal, implying that we all should earn the same income.”
What absolute, fabricated baloney.
astroturf
February 24th, 2010
1:47 pm
all the stimulus did is keep the same people in the sam e positions that got us in trouble in the first place if the economy was left to its own demize we would have purged the people that did the wrong thing and left the people that had done the right thing standing and able to buy up the things that were left at the right price the stimulus proped up the prices of the things and kept the wrong idology alive. for that our grand children will pay because it will happen again and again until the system is alowed to work like it is suppose to. I say let the dems have all the rope they want they are going to hang themselvs in november.
Kyle Light
February 24th, 2010
8:28 pm
There are and have been many jobs available. I believe it is each person’s responsibility to adjust to the economy. A great article was posted on more detail about the state of jobs in 2010… http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2720921/getting_a_job_in_7steps_explained_by.html