Wow! The Republicans were right about the stimulus after all

So who was right?

The congressional Republicans, who have gone around the country claiming that the stimulus bill has created no new jobs and stimulated no new economic growth, or the congressional Republicans, who have gone around their home states and districts bragging that stimulus projects would create a lot of new jobs?

Well, The Congressional Budget Office has looked into the question, and it turns out that the Republicans were right! The stimulus bill has indeed produced a lot of new jobs and increased economic activity.

According to the report:

In sum, CBO estimates that in the fourth quarter of calendar year 2009, ARRA’s policies:
– Raised real GDP by between 1.5 percent and 3.5 percent;
– Lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.5 percentage points and 1.1 percentage points;
– Increased the number of people employed by between 1.0 million and 2.1 million;
– Increased the number of full-time-equivalent jobs by 1.4 million to 3.0 million compared with what those amounts would have been otherwise.

The CBO also estimates that the biggest impact of the stimulus is yet to come. It predicts that job growth produced by the stimulus will cut the unemployment rate by 1.9 percentage points for the rest of the year, boost GDP by as much as 4.5 percent in the second quarter of this year and increase the number of people employed by as much as 3.3 million people.

By the way, CBO also compared the stimulus effect of various aspects of the legislation. Direct spending by state and federal governments had the biggest effect, producing four to five times as much beneficial impact as tax cuts to higher income taxpayers.

Just in case you were wondering.

289 comments Add your comment

jt

February 23rd, 2010
5:49 pm

Monopoly money.

@@

February 23rd, 2010
5:56 pm

Our national debt was stimulated beyond sustainability. My daughter is already aware, but her future children haven’t gotten the good news. I can’t wait to tell ‘em.

How ’bout you jay? Are you excited about the future prospects for your grandchildren?

Rightwing Troll

February 23rd, 2010
5:57 pm

The more things change…

Dave R.

February 23rd, 2010
5:59 pm

Yeah, let’s save all those government jobs!

While the private sector withers and dies.

This from the people who have rarely, if ever, been right on their estimates.

Yeah, I’m buying that.

Pogo

February 23rd, 2010
5:59 pm

Government jobs do not count Jay. Government jobs must be payed for by private sector money so therefore, they are a “no gainer”. I hope even you, with your progressive driven idealogy, must know that revenue to support this country’s economy must come from the private sector and the private sector is hurting badly. The revnue well will dry up if things don’t turn. According to the numbers, the number of people that are “under-employed” in the private sector is running about 20%. That is a far cry from 9.7% (which is a terrible number) that the government rates the un-employment levels at. The stimulus was too big to be controlled by our bumbling government bureacracy and much of the money has (and is) being thrown away and wasted. Again, the private sector must grow or we are in one hell of a mess. Government sponsored jobs do not count in the long run as they must be funded by private sector employment.

Jay

February 23rd, 2010
6:03 pm

I agree about the primacy of private-sector jobs, Pogo. No question. But there’s also no question that the stimulus saved a lot of private-sector jobs that otherwise would have been washed away in the panicked downturn. Most economists, conservative or liberal, would concur with that.

@@, I am indeed concerned about my children and grandchildren, but I’m not at all concerned about the impact of the stimulus bill on them. It was a temporary measure that was badly needed to get us through a very bad time. The things I’m worried about on their behalf are much more long term and structural in nature.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

February 23rd, 2010
6:04 pm

The CBO also estimates that the biggest impact of the stimulus is yet to come. It predicts that job growth produced by the stimulus will cut the unemployment rate by 1.9 percentage points for the rest of the year, boost GDP by as much as 4.5 percent in the second quarter of this year and increase the number of people employed by as much as 3.3 million people.

And that^^, my friends, has been safely stored away in the archives, from where it will be retrieved around Christmas time and hung around Bookman’s neck.

Appreciate it.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

February 23rd, 2010
6:05 pm

Well, they should of let the economy hit rock bottom, like the Republicans wanted to do. That way, there’s nowhere it can go but up. It wouldn’t of cost more than 5 or 6 million more jobs. Sure, the banks would of went bust and street sales of pencils and apples would of went thru the roof, but letting the whole thing go flat was the way to go. People need to take Personal Responsibility for it all. Not get bailed out by the guvmint.

And we would of had a reason to get rid of welfare programs like Social Security and Medicare.

Now our kids and grandkids will have to pay all that money back. At least I won’t be around to see that or hear them cuss me.

Just wait till we take back Congress. We’ll send that sucker to the bottom where it should of been to start with. And beer sales will go out of sight, what with people wanting to drown their sorrows. A few more tax cuts and a little more spending will do the trick.

Have a good night everybody.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

February 23rd, 2010
6:08 pm

And just think, it only cost us $300,000 a year per job!

Wow, how impressive.

Pogo

February 23rd, 2010
6:10 pm

And Jay, I read your column on the 8 billion loaned to SNC for Vogtle 3&4. A hell of a balancing act there dude. What you didn’t include was that Obama was also involved in shutting down Yucca which was the best option (outside of re-processing) that we had. Just another case of Obama not wanting to tackle the tough stuff. I thought that was the mark of a good leader, didn’t you?

Pogo

February 23rd, 2010
6:15 pm

You should know a lot about spending Neck. You should run for government office because currently that is all they know to do to pacify the masses. Both the republicans and democrats. Fiscal responsibility is something that has been lost. Take off your rose colored glasses.

RW-(the original)

February 23rd, 2010
6:17 pm

Makes you wonder why they’re voting on a “jobs” bill tonight and promising to follow that up with several more.

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
6:22 pm

Desperate times call for desperate measures. It is true that our children’s children will be paying for this. However, it did buy us enough time to regain our footing from the whap and rebuild confidence. I am far less concerned about the stimulus than I am who got what when and where. That’s where the accounting should lie and, well, I don’t like what I’m seeing in those ledgers, but as far as the private sector is concerned, it appears that the self-confidence is returning and that is a good thing. The way I see it, and I’m certainly no economist or, in this case a partisan, this has been a mixed bag.

Pogo

February 23rd, 2010
6:24 pm

Jay, your comment that the “stimulus” saved a lot of private sector jobs confuses me. If they were payed for by private sector money how could they have saved private sector jobs as they were government funded jobs payed for by private sector (taxpayer) money? Please explain.

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

February 23rd, 2010
6:29 pm

Jay

I see that you have deleted your little pre-emptive strike from last week where you answered my post before I posted it.

Wise, but really, really slimy move.

So it’s not enough that you are looking over our shoulders, you like to keep it a secret.

And liberal media people wonder why most of the country wouldn’t trust you as far as they could throw you.

You know, we have the same degree, but I just didn’t learn the overt dishonesty that you did.

Different schools, I guess.

@@

February 23rd, 2010
6:35 pm

A temporary measure, jay!!?!!

You’ve been around longer than I. Has government ever failed in its capacity to grow larger in your lifetime?

Kyle has posted that assuming for a moment that the high estimate, 2.1 million jobs, is correct. CBO says the federal government — that is, taxpayers — spent $272 billion on the stimulus last year. So, almost $130,000 per job. Was it worth it?

Don’t mean to pit you and Kyle against one another, but somehow I’m thinking those folks who are working 2 to 3 jobs, or those people who can’t find jobs, will appreciate the fact that their tax dollars are helping to pay someone else $130,000.

@@

February 23rd, 2010
6:35 pm

…will NOT appreciate…

IHB

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
6:35 pm

I just loves the sight of Republicans squirming in the evening almost as much as I loves seeing them squirm in the morning.

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

February 23rd, 2010
6:39 pm

Turtle Soup

Squirm?

Because the incompetents in the White house created more government jobs? We have enough bureaucrats. The governmental unemployment rate is less than 3%. We don’t need more bureaucrats. We need real sustainable jobs.

Now let’s see who will be squirming in November.

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
6:40 pm

@@

February 23rd, 2010
6:42 pm

I just loves the sight of Republicans squirming in the evening almost as much as I loves seeing them squirm in the morning.

And I love to see one of jay’s liberals hiding in their shell. Are you cooking in the same kettle with frogs?

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
6:43 pm

I heard that Sarah was asking how that thingy with Scott Brown was working for y’all Republicans. Come on now, don’t be shy. And what about those other four Republicans that didn’t obstruct again. Are their days numbered too. Are they seeing the writing on the wall with their change from just voting No.

F. Sinkwich

February 23rd, 2010
6:43 pm

Anyone who thinks saving government (union) jobs will save this economy is delusional. Bailing out profligate (predominately blue) states is a waste of money, particularly when all it means the can just gets kicked down the road.

Obama has been a disaster, Jay. He had a year to do something to truly help us, but he squandered it patronizing his liberal progressive supporters, whom I dub “neo-libs.”.

Neo-libs are those who have made bad decisions in their lives, and expect others to pay for them. They think that if someone made a buck doing something productive, it was because they took a buck from the “less fortunate.”

Look, you can post any quote from any source, Jay, to support your contention that Obama is indeed the Messiah, but America ain’t buying it. We know a charlatan when when see one.

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
6:46 pm

I would be interested in seeing a break down of what these jobs created are and how much they pay. Does anyone have a reference?

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

February 23rd, 2010
6:46 pm

Turtle poop

Here’s a hint” post links that have bipartisan credibility and people won’t laugh at you nearly as much.

Here’s a test. When you go from page to page and every single article sounds like it was written by the DNC (or the RNC), it’s not a credible website.

But considering the nonsense you are posting, credibility apparently isn’t an issue with you.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

February 23rd, 2010
6:47 pm

I’d say the CBO is mortgaging the precious little credibility it still has. The flawed basis of the CBO claim is well-discussed in today’s WSJ.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704751304575079260144504040.html

Dr Barro establishes, without real question, that those who opposed the stimulus were right after all.

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

February 23rd, 2010
6:48 pm

Turtle Poop

**I heard that Sarah was asking how that thingy with Scott Brown was working for y’all Republicans. Come on now, don’t be shy. And what about those other four Republicans that didn’t obstruct again. Are their days numbered too. Are they seeing the writing on the wall with their change from just voting No.**

Just as long as you still have that Hope and Change

There will always be free thinking Republicans, especially when it involves jobs for Americans, but if Scott Brown gives you hope that Obozo hasn’t, glad we could help.

@@

February 23rd, 2010
6:49 pm

Scott Brown is exactly who I thought he was. Massachusetts voters elected the man.

I’m often amused when someone comes in and tells me to vote out ALL incumbents. I can only vote out those in my district. I have no control over what other voters in Georgia or throughout the U.S. do. Therein lies the dilemma.

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
6:49 pm

Some say I look like Mitch. What do you think.

Jay is a commie

February 23rd, 2010
6:51 pm

Well as long as we save government jobs everything will be all right. We can always print more money. Just prolonging the collapse of this once great country.

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
6:52 pm

Well, Jay was correct when he said that Swamp would be a bore once he told us what he was going to have Swamp say. But that’s OK because us turtles love to poop in the swamp. It’s just what we do.

md

February 23rd, 2010
6:52 pm

“I would be interested in seeing a break down of what these jobs created are and how much they pay. Does anyone have a reference?”

Considering the “transparency” the program is supposed to have, one would think ever single job would be posted. But considering how they changed the method of counting mid-stream, the fact is they have no clue.

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
6:55 pm

JAY

As per my 6:46 can you help?

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

February 23rd, 2010
6:55 pm

Turtle Poop

So that’s who you are. Sorry boy. This is the last time I will waste on you.

I prefer to talk to people with character and at least a little courage. You have neither.

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
6:56 pm

I guess this spells disaster in November for all those Republican Congresspersons that are back in front of their constituencies bragging about how those stimulus dollars are making and saving tons of jobs. At least that would be the case if this pack of conservative voters on this blog are representative of their respective congressperson’s constituency. Suuuuure they are.

Paul

February 23rd, 2010
6:57 pm

Politicians should know better than to speak in absolutes, such as “no jobs” or “no growth.” Absolutes rarely pan out.

Now the next phase of Republican disagreement will be “okay, we see the CBO numbers. The initial influx of money had a positive effect – but it was from getting only (what’s the exact percentage?) 20 percent of the appropriation into the economy. CBO has not predicted the same results will accrue from the rest of the money – it’s mathematically unlikely. So let’s take back part of what’s been unspent and apply it to the deficit.”

How’s that for a bipartisan proposal, Pres Obama?

josef nix

From down below – sorry for the delay – one of those lonnnng business calls came in. “LIve and let live” as an attitude affecting behavior takes much consideration and work. Nothing passive about it at all. Can take much effort to not interject, to let another live as they want.

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
6:57 pm

md

So far I’ve seen no such breakdown and it makes it hard to really judge the “success” or “failure”

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

February 23rd, 2010
6:57 pm

And now, a reasoned, non hack white house lapdog’s opinion of the situation-

“The reason why the unemployment rate is going to be sticky is that as soon as employment starts picking up, a lot of the people who have not been seeking jobs are going to come back into the labor force, and they will keep the official unemployment rate in the 9 percent area, something like that,” Greenspan said.

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
6:58 pm

Sang to Pants on the Ground:

Poops in the swamp,
Poops in the swamp,

Everbody knows turtles poop in the swamp.

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

February 23rd, 2010
6:59 pm

josef nix

The new owners of GM, closed down the plant in Tennessee and moved the workers to a blue state. Does this tell you anything?

Government unemployment is less than 3% But this administration keeps building the government while the private sector continues to decline. So where do you think the jobs were created?

F. Sinkwich

February 23rd, 2010
6:59 pm

Uh, Turtle Soup, could you please list “all those Republican Congresspersons…bragging about how those stimulus dollars are making and saving tons of jobs?”

Didn’t think so.

md

February 23rd, 2010
7:02 pm

Jo,

“White House scraps method of counting stimulus jobs, won’t keep running tally”

From our very own ajc:

http://www.ajc.com/news/white-house-scraps-method-280295.html

Is there any wonder they can’t be counted? Not if this is accurate.

Scout

February 23rd, 2010
7:02 pm

I don’t believe anything that comes out of Washington. It’s all “smoke and mirrors”.

I was there for 11 years and one pay period and saw it happen time and time again. I have been in the Limo when the politiicans in the back seat (both parties do it) were saying, “o.k., when we get to this next function don’t answer that same question this way ………. answer it this way.” Made me sick then and makes me sick now.

It’s all about votes, getting re-elected and staying in power and very little about serving your constituents let alone you country.

It’s broken !

@@

February 23rd, 2010
7:02 pm

The only thing slower than a turtle is a slug.

Speaking of slugs…that’s what this administration’s economic policies are gonna leave us with…slugs with zero value.

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

February 23rd, 2010
7:02 pm

F. Sinkwich

Look at what he has posted so far. That clown would be much better suited if he was writing with a crayon.

He is one of “those” people who would be better off if he really was 12 years old, but sadly, this is just an imbecile who still thinks like a 12 year old.

Drain The Swamp (NIF)

February 23rd, 2010
7:04 pm

You guys have a good night.

you too, turtle boy.

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:05 pm

Didn’t think so

Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA) Issued Pres Releases Bragging About Bringing Stimulus Jobs…

Say it ain’t so!

What! What was that! Eric Cantor too! Someone prepare the fainting couch for me.

md

February 23rd, 2010
7:06 pm

“Now all jobs funded with stimulus dollars will be counted as created or saved, whether or not they were in jeopardy of being eliminated, according to new rules OMB released last month in a memo that drew little attention. Also, when stimulus money is used for pay raises, it will translate into a fraction of a job created or saved. OMB officials say the changes should take the guesswork and confusion out of the reporting process.”

“whether or not they were in jeopardy of being eliminated…………………”

Smoke and mirrors…………..pure manipulation of the masses.

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:06 pm

Swamp is beyond predictable. Jay has prepared us ahead of time by giving us Swamp’s words.

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:07 pm

This is too easy. I think I’ll go make me some rabbit stew.

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
7:08 pm

PAUL

As you know, I get pulled on the carpet a lot around here because I won’t toe the party line. I can tell from the name calling and vindicativeness who has a mean streak and would cheerfully and gladly consign their opponents to gehenna. That’s about as far from live and let live as you can get, in my opinion, and it comes as much from left as it does from right. There are some posters who I cringe when they start to champion “my” causes. With friends like that, who needs enemies.

md

February 23rd, 2010
7:12 pm

4 pay raises equals one job saved by our illustrious leaders, that could be $1 per raise and it counts as one job.

As Scout says – its broken.

Dusty

February 23rd, 2010
7:13 pm

Well, Josef, stop asking for facts. That will kill your optimism. Here we are supposed to get all gungho and excited because the stimulus HELPED. So we can all stop worrying because $130,000/job is just twinkies to our high minded president who loves to pass out taxpayer goodies.

Yes, Josef, there is a Santa Claus and he lives in Washington with all the elves. His bag is packed with big stimuli. So be reassured and DO NOT ASK for facts.

Whatcha do is smile and say”That is so nice. How good of Bookman to tell us such good news!”

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:13 pm

House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) Said Stimulus Funds Would Create “Much Needed Jobs.”

Rep. Joseph Cao (R-LA) Working To ‘Channel’ Recovery Act Funds To New Orleans.

Rep. Mary Fallin Requested Army Secretary Use $8.4m in Stimulus Funds for Projects in Oklahoma

Dan Lungren Praised $127.5 million in Stimulus Funds to Sacramento As a Solution To “Energy, Environmental and National Security Issues

Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) Hands Out Giant Stimulus Check In Georgia

Congressman Mike Coffman (R-CO) Says He Will Advocate For Benefits Of Recovery Package Despite Opposition

Congressman Reichert (R-WA) Acknowledged Recovery Package Will Deliver Good News For District.

Hillbilly Deluxe

February 23rd, 2010
7:13 pm

If you changed Democrat/Republican to Georgia/Georgia Tech, a lot of times there wouldn’t be much difference between the responses on this blog and the ones over at Mark Bradley’s and Jeff Schultz’s.

F. Sinkwich

February 23rd, 2010
7:14 pm

Yo, Turtle, you saying it doesn’t make it true.

But on a broader scale, could you please provide evidence that you neo-libs won’t suffer a bloodbath in the November elections?

What kind of bad decisions have you made in your life which cause you to want government to force me to write you a check at the point of a gun?

Look in the mirror, dude.

Just trying to help.

@@

February 23rd, 2010
7:16 pm

josef:

Speaking of toeing the party line….did ‘ya hear Joe Lieberman has come out in favor of repealing DADT?

According the liberal Democrats, he’s nothing more than a Republican shill. Why? He’s a war mongrel….or is that war monger?

(ISH)

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
7:17 pm

md

Thanks for the 7:02 link…

That’s about what I thought…

When I see a report that reads such as:

14 jobs created in laying new sidewalks in Tucumcari, NM, paying $18.00 an hour under a six-month contract…

Then I’ll have something concrete ( :-) ) to go by…Otherwise it is, as you said, so much smoke and mirrors…

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:17 pm

Congressman Frank Lucas (R-OK) Said He Would Get His “Fair Share” Of Recovery Package Money

Congressman Heath Shuler (D-NC) Hosts Recovery Package Workshop, Says He Is “Prepared To Fight” For “Fair Share.”

Congressman Bill Shuster Bashes The Stimulus As A Failure While Taking Credit For Its Success

Congressman Greg Walden (R-OR) Vowed To Direct Recovery Package Money To His District

Congressman Glenn Thompson (R-PA) Hoped “Massive Spending” Would Benefit Constituents

Congressman Leonard Lance (R-NJ) Proclaimed That A Recovery Package Funded Program Was A “Classic Example Of A Shovel-Ready Project

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:18 pm

Smoking in front of the mirror just fogs things up.

Jenifer

February 23rd, 2010
7:19 pm

CBO calculated that without the stimulus package, the unemployment rate would be up to 1.1 percent higher. It also said that unemployment is higher than analysts predicted after passage of the ARRA due to “greater-than-projected weakness in the underlying economy rather than lower-than-expected effects of ARRA.”

For all you wingnuts out there, see? This was a GOOD thing. Stopping it would have been a BAD thing. Sorry, the computer won’t let me write in crayon for you.

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/110xx/doc11044/02-23-ARRA.pdf

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:20 pm

Congressman John Mica (R-FL) ‘Gushed’ About Funds Secured In Recovery Package

Congressman Don Young (R-AK) Claimed “Victory” For Funds Secured In Recovery Package

Congressman Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-MO) Hailed Education Benefits Of Recovery Package As “What The Economy Needs

Congressman Michael McCaul (R-TX) Took Credit For Recovery-Funded Highway Project.

Congressman Pete Olson (R-TX) Requested $3 Billion In Stimulus Funds

Congressman Ken Calvert (R-CA) Announced He Would Claim “As Much [Recovery Package] Money As We Can

Congressman Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) Praised “Generous” Recovery Package Benefits

Congressman Adam Putnam (R-FL) Signed Letter Asking Federal Government Asking For Waiver To Access Recovery Package Funds

@@

February 23rd, 2010
7:21 pm

The best example of “A Shovel-Ready Project” is the government stimulus.

Shoveling cow dung OR turtle poop. Either/or.

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
7:22 pm

@@

I’m glad to hear that about Joe, but I dislike him with an antipathy bordering on rabid for something he said back when he was running for VP…good Jew, hell, he’s a momser if ever there were! But, that’s one of my lunatic fringe issues and I’m not out to poke the Bruin or get moderated…ISH

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:22 pm

Congressman Cliff Stearns (R-FL) Signed Letter Asking Federal Government Asking For Waiver To Access Recovery Package Funds.

Congressman Bill Posey (R-FL) Signed Letter Asking Federal Government Asking For Waiver To Access Recovery Package Funds

Congresswoman Ginny Brown-Waite (R-FL) Signed Letter Asking Federal Government Asking For Waiver To Access Recovery Package Funds

Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart (R-FL) Signed Letter Asking Federal Government Asking For Waiver To Access Recovery Package Funds

Congressman Tom Rooney (R-FL) Signed Letter Asking Federal Government Asking For Waiver To Access Recovery Package

Congressman Geoff Davis (R-KY) Took Credit For Over $1 Million In Recovery Funds For His District

Congressman Lincoln Diaz-Balart (R-FL) Signed Letter Asking Federal Government Asking For Waiver To Access Recovery Package

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:24 pm

Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) Signed Letter Asking Federal Government Asking For Waiver To Access Stimulus Funds

Senator Mike Crapo (R-ID) Bragged About Job Creation, Environmental Clean Up Benefits Of Recovery Package

Senator Kit Bond (R-MO) Touted Job Creation, Housing Benefits Of Recovery Package

Senator Richard Burr (R-NC) Touted Funds From Stimulus Bill He Opposed

@@

February 23rd, 2010
7:24 pm

josef:

There will be no perfection in our lifetime.

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:25 pm

Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) Asked Defense Secretary To Steer $50 Million In Stimulus Money To Georgian Bioenergy Project

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC): Would Be “Crazy” Not To Accept Recovery Package Money

Senator Bob Bennett (R-UT) Boasted Through His Spokeswoman That Pet Project In Recovery Package Is An Example Of “Utah Projects That Would Create Jobs.”

Senator Johnny Isakson (R-GA) Asked Defense Secretary To Steer $50 Million In Stimulus Money To Georgian Bioenergy Project

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Brags About Stimulus Projects, Requests More Money

Senator Inhofe (R-OK) Hailed $25 Million In Stimulus Money He Called “No Stimulus … Welfare” As “Necessary Funds

You want to hear what the governors had to say.

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:28 pm

Yo, Turtle, you saying it doesn’t make it true

You sayin it ain’t true. That just ain’t so. Look in your own mirror if you can find a piece left big enough.

Linda

February 23rd, 2010
7:29 pm

How did all these jobs raise the unemployment rate by about 2.5% since the Recovery Act was passed? Are these gross or net jobs? Are these jobs that Pay taxes or jobs that are paid for BY taxes? Are they “green” jobs or red, white & blue Jobs? Are they counting (census) jobs or jobs that really count?

Bud Wiser

February 23rd, 2010
7:32 pm

Well, since they still haven’t shown which jobs were supposedly ’saved’, and that unemployment continued to rise during that period, like everything else that comes out of Obowo’s WH, I consider anything they say to be, well, a lie.

Go ahead, disprove me.

Show the jobs saved.

Show that unemployment has gone down.

I’ll have fries with that…..

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
7:36 pm

A good turtle soup is delicate and subtle…and served with white wine…

DUSTY–
Is that my pat on the head for the evening? Okay, I’ll smile and be nice, just for you! :-)

“If the facts don’t fit the theory, change the facts.”
–Albert Einstein

kayaker 71

February 23rd, 2010
7:36 pm

Bookman.

You might think that Bozo’s stimulus package has re-energized America but the average American in the recent CBS poll of how Bozo has done in his first year as our POTUS is a bit at odds with your calculations. A full 62% has stated that Bozo rates an F regarding the stimulus and 26% ranked his stimulus with a D. That’s a full 88% of the people polled who say that the stimulus is a bust. These same figures hold true with the assessment of how Bozo has done in his first year in office. An equal 88% confer either a D or an F for his performance. Wow, that should boost his narcissistic view of himself. Can you say one term?

Jenifer

February 23rd, 2010
7:39 pm

The Shrub administration created 3 million jobs during eight years and the Obama administration has created 2.1 million jobs in a few months during a recession.

Obama administration for the win!

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
7:39 pm

@@

“There will be no perfection in our lifetime.”

Granddaddy used to say that “there’s only been one perfect man and look at what happened to him. I’m not in that market!” ISH

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:42 pm

How did all these jobs raise the unemployment rate by about 2.5% since the Recovery Act was passed? Are these gross or net jobs? Are these jobs that Pay taxes or jobs that are paid for BY taxes? Are they “green” jobs or red, white & blue Jobs? Are they counting (census) jobs or jobs that really count?

They’re the kind that come with paychecks.

Jenifer

February 23rd, 2010
7:44 pm

What did the Shrub administration actually do other than ship our jobs overseas and let Wall Street rob us blind? I mean besides the wars and acts of treason.

Well, as part of the outsourcing deal with India, we got delicious Indian mangoes!

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:47 pm

I see there is no opposition challenging all those posts regarding Republicans and their drive to get them some of those stimulus dollars for jobs back home even though they all voted against it. You would think that they would take the money back home to their constituency and announce their intentions to put it in the bank drawing interest so that it could be used to pay back the fed when their portion of the bill comes due but noooooo. You might even think that these Republicans would show a little courage and admit to their constituency that they voted against the stimulus but are now taking it. Who am I kidding. We’re talking about Republicans and their campaign strategy here. Nothing must come between them and their return to power. Nothing!

Jenifer

February 23rd, 2010
7:49 pm

Wingnuts: “But…but…but…but…they’re all Gubmint jobs!”

Which clearly is at odds with their statement “the government has yet to create a single job.”

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February 23rd, 2010
7:50 pm

Obama’s stimulus created green jobs overseas.

The Investigative Reporting Workshop at American University found 80 percent of the stimulus money had created 6,000 jobs, and only a small percentage of those jobs went to American workers.

Only two American companies ̶ General Electric Energy and Clipper Wind ̶ are major wind turbine manufacturers, and the American Wind Energy Associations has said the United States saw a drop in the number of wind turbine manufacturing jobs last year.

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:52 pm

A good turtle soup is delicate and subtle…and served with white wine…

Mitch looks forward to your critique. He’s soup, you know. Or was that, toast. Make that Boehner toast with that Mitch turtle soup. That’ll do. Wash it down with a Chablis. I buy mine by the case.

The American People

February 23rd, 2010
7:57 pm

Down With Dems In 2K10

Turtle Soup

February 23rd, 2010
7:59 pm

A month after being crowned the darling of national conservatives, Republican Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts is being branded “Benedict Brown” for siding with Democrats in favor of a jobs bill endorsed by the Obama administration

Awww. You Republicans should not be so hard on the guy. He’s just trying to do what’s right for the people. Oh. THAT’s the problem, isn’t it. He’s putting the people before the party. Ouch.

Midori

February 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm

LOL, Jen!!!

Which clearly is at odds with their statement “the government has yet to create a single job.”

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm

Turtle–

I prefer a Chateau St. Michel Riesling…no croutons, though, maybe a day old baguette…

Other American People

February 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm

FOUR MORE YEARS!
FOUR MORE YEARS!
FOUR MORE YEARS!

Jenifer

February 23rd, 2010
8:01 pm

Faux News is legally allowed to lie to the public, while using the public’s airwaves to do so. This is the first thing I always bring up to neocons that I meet. The second is that a large shareholder of Faux News is a Muslim.

Jenifer

February 23rd, 2010
8:02 pm

Hi Midori,

Just keeping it real!

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
8:03 pm

Brown voted with the Democrats and First Lady Michelle Obama appeared with Mr. Huckabee–two little and unconnected events, perhaps, but maybe, just maybe we may be breaking out of this paralyzing polemic mindset..

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February 23rd, 2010
8:04 pm

josef:

I was searching for the poster who mentioned that the stimulus had rebuilt confidence. Unfortunately it was you. Sorry…

A dismal reading of consumer confidence sent stocks sliding, as worries accumulated about the pace of the U.S. economic recovery.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 100.97 points–WSJ

Kamchak

February 23rd, 2010
8:05 pm

I prefer a Chateau St. Michel Riesling…

It was my understanding that you eschewed white wines. If turtle has a flavor anything like alligator tail—ugh. Tastes like a swamp smells.

Jenifer

February 23rd, 2010
8:07 pm

Tonight on SaudiFaux, Sheannity will proclaim that the CBO announced the stimulus has cost 2.1 million, or 21 million, jobs.

And the sheeple will nod sagely and go to bed believing his crap.

@@

February 23rd, 2010
8:09 pm

Not a wine connoisseur. Never tasted one I liked, so I’m outta here.

Jenifer

February 23rd, 2010
8:11 pm

And before Sheannity, Glenda Beckster will use his blackboard to show how these 2.1 million jobs are all part of Obama’s big secret Socialist plot.

josef nix

February 23rd, 2010
8:14 pm

K’chak– turtle is nothing like alligator, and I’m not usually a fan of whites, but with something subtle, like turtle soup, a good Riesling clears the palate…I’m usually more a fan of strong flavors, thus, strong reds…

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I’m not contending that the stimulus rebuilt confidence, but that it did buy time while we got our confidence back…

I looked at it then and now as a stop gap measure. I’m afraid, though, that it opened the door for a continued government slop at the public coffer and that is not a good thing…

popeye

February 23rd, 2010
8:15 pm

Josef would that be the Chateau St. Michel Riesling from the Columbia Valley? For such a low price it is indeed a good wine!

Jenifer

February 23rd, 2010
8:16 pm

Yep, it looks like it’s shaping up to be a bad week for the republicants – with this report and the spanking coming on Thursday.

But it just could not happen to a better group.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

February 23rd, 2010
8:16 pm

Anybody else think that Romney took himself out, again, by endorsing McBushie?

And who tends to the boiling pot of human heads while obozo is away from Kenya?

Thumblina

February 23rd, 2010
8:16 pm

Yeah, you sure are a Democrat mathematician. If you gain 5 jobs, but lose 15, you’re still losing jobs in reality. I know that in the make-believe world that Democrats live in, that 5 job creation means they’ve gained ground. But here in the world of reality that means that we’re losing ground.

And while Democrats might be touting their successes saying that they’ve done well, yadayada, the Republicans, acknowledging reality, actually put together options that were focused on job creation so that we would only need one stimulus package worth near half a trillion. Democrats have now put together 3 or 4 worth near 3 trillion together and we’ve only seen job losses, and they’ve still failed to create jobs, in reality world, that is.

Now they’ve created a jobs package, finally, and they only need $15 billion. You know what 15 billion of 3 trillion is. Yeah, nothing. So why do they need it if they’re doing so well? Why can’t they just take from what they’re already borrowing?

Midori

February 23rd, 2010
8:17 pm

Josef,

when I was a little girl, I remember my dad killing this huge snapping turtle and my uncle kept dipping it in scalding water in order to clean it and get all of the shell off.

My mom then roasted it in the oven.

UGH!!!!

I still have flashbacks!!!!!