Top Taliban figure captured in Pakistan
The Afghan Taliban’s second in command, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, was captured last week in Karachi during a joint operation by Pakistan’s intelligence service and the CIA, according to U.S. and Pakistani sources.
Deputy to Taliban leader Mohammad Omar, Baradar has been considered by many to be in de facto control of the insurgent organization in recent years. His capture is by far the most important detention since the beginning of the war in Afghanistan in 2001 and the first known capture of a top-ranking insurgent during the Obama administration.
…The former deputy defense minister in the Taliban government in Afghanistan, Baradar has gradually taken control of the Taliban leadership council based in Quetta, Pakistan. “He makes the Taliban run,” said Seth G. Jones, a senior political scientist at the Rand Corporation and Taliban expert who recently returned from an advisory position with the U.S. military command in Afghanistan.
I’m sure we’ll hear more about it over time, but that’s a very big break, operationally, informationally and symbolically. One “tell” as to the symbolic impact, from the New York Times:
“A spokesman for the Taliban insisted on Tuesday that Baradar was still free.
“This is just rumor spread by foreigners to divert attention from the Marja offensive,” said the spokesman, Zabiullah Mujahid.
“They are facing big problems in Marja. In reality there is nothing regarding Baradar’s arrest. He is safe and free and he is in Afghanistan.””
Uh, not really. As to how he’s being handled, the Times reports:
“The officials said that Pakistan was leading the interrogation of Mullah Baradar, but that Americans were also involved. The conditions of the questioning are unclear. In its first week in office, the Obama administration banned harsh interrogations like waterboarding by Americans, but the Pakistanis have long been known to subject prisoners to brutal questioning.”
The assault on Marja also seems to be progressing well. Half of the estimated 400 Taliban fighters in the area have been taken out of the fight, having fled or been killed. U.S. officials say it won’t be long until the rest meet a similar fate.
Among the Taliban fighters still in Marja, American and Afghan officials said, morale appears to be eroding fast, in part because the holdouts feel abandoned by their leaders and by local Afghans who are refusing to shelter them.
“They cannot feed themselves, they cannot sustain themselves — that is what we are hearing,” Col. Scott Hartsell told a group of senior officers at a briefing near Marja that included Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the commander of NATO forces; and Abdul Rahim Wardak, the Afghan minister of defense. “They are calling for help, and they are not getting any.”
“Pretty soon, they are going to run out of gas,” Colonel Hartsell said.
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Paul
February 16th, 2010
12:17 pm
Interesting piece about Mitt Romney and the guy who attacked him on the airplane.
Romney’s a self-made millionaire.
Where was his and his wife’s seat?
Row 15. Economy class.
I think he just picked up a few votes for 2013.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/bureau-blog/romney-threatened-by-air-canada-passenger/article1469196/
Paul
February 16th, 2010
12:18 pm
Hey Bosch
Do I have to say it?
And with a post about Romney, no less!
Whacks Eloquent
February 16th, 2010
12:18 pm
Bosch,
“Exactly. They can’t hate us if we ain’t there. I mean, of course they can, but they have no validity for doing so, and will lose their support.”
The only support they care about is Allah. I don’t think they looked to the UN to see if the world justified their hatred of the West. What, the Crusades? I think the Jews got the worst end of that one…but we don’t see Israel calling the West the “Great Satan”. You cannot reason with religious hatred…best hope on that front is that fellow Muslims who are not bent on destruction of all enemies will rub off on them.
getalife
February 16th, 2010
12:19 pm
Thanks Paul,
Missed that one.
With a broken Senate, Biden is reaching for accomplishments but it did happen on their watch.
The Pentagon stepped up their game planning the Marjal operation. They will probably set up a base there.
Doggone/GA
February 16th, 2010
12:19 pm
“Because it does seem to me that I’ve read in the past that at least two Number Twos were taken out by predator attacks, and I think both were Taliban.”
Nature abhors a vacuum…and so do organizations.
Matilda
February 16th, 2010
12:20 pm
Whacks Eloquent at 12:02, some valid questions and points there. Bigger guns are indeed better than teenie weenie ones. (heh…) I can’t say I’m completely uncomfortable with us being seen as the biggest BA on the block. It’s kind of like having the biggest, baddest boyfriend in town. (*grin*) I am uncomfortable with any proof that our country abuses that power, though. Even isolated incidents can harm our ability to sustain much-needed friendly alliances.
We ARE the good guys! Totally! Well, except when our behavior is like the bad guys. Love of country and open eyes are not mutually exclusive.
I can’t get on board with the invastion of Iraq, no matter how we choose to spin it. Bottom line: GWB lied to us, and we’ve heard plenty of sources assert that they were planning to invade Iraq well before 9/11. I pay attention, for the most part, and remember those speeches when Bush & Cheney wove the two together, even though they later said “nuh-uh!” That their friends are still getting filthy rich while our surplus and treasury were steadily emptied into their unaudited pockets (while our soldiers scrimped for metal to bolt to their jeeps) leads me to believe the most sinister things about the administration and that whole mess over there. I can’t help but think that the Afgh. conflict would have been over with the stringing up of Bin Laden years ago, though likely little there would have changed. All these years later, all I can believe for certain is that there is no easy way out.
md
February 16th, 2010
12:21 pm
“There’s just too much brain-dead partisanship,” Bayh said in a nationally broadcast interview Tuesday. He said the public will continue to harbor hostile feelings toward Congress “until we change this town.” He also said that “the extremes of both parties have to be willing to accept compromises.”
Too bad, the “brighter” ones being driven out by the “not so bright”.
Paul
February 16th, 2010
12:22 pm
getalife
VP Biden needs to stop reaching. They’ve got accomplishments but aren’t focusing. They need to make the story about them and stop with the gazing at the past.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:22 pm
@@
clunkers or stratfor
not so fast…..
you completely avoided taking responsibility for your wrong doing.
how boring is that?
oh and Paul
I think the withdrawal of troops from Iraq is an accomplishment this administration deserves bragging rights on.
ty webb
February 16th, 2010
12:23 pm
Doggone,
nothing in your 11:59 is relevant to my reply to your 11:09 post directed at my earlier post. That is all. Oh yeah… again, I have no links or qoutes.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:23 pm
md
do you think blood lust is limited to the theater of war?
Paul
February 16th, 2010
12:26 pm
Mrs. Godzilla
[[I think the withdrawal of troops from Iraq is an accomplishment this administration deserves bragging rights on.]]
What did this administration do to make that possible?
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
12:27 pm
Whacks,
No, Muslims in general, are not all about Allah as their sole source of support. Islamic extremists just like Christian extremist use their “god” as an excuse to excise their beliefs onto others. If you don’t believe as them, you are wrong and must be dealt with. Islamic extremists use violence as a means, but Christian extremists use the fear of hell. Different tactic – physical vs. emotional terrorism. For your argument to be valid, Islamic extremists wouldn’t target their own.
Eric Holder's Momma
February 16th, 2010
12:28 pm
Waterboard this jerk!
Tie him into a metal chair and hook him up to some jumper cables and a car battery.
Grab his family.
SHOW NO MERCY !
Whacks Eloquent
February 16th, 2010
12:29 pm
GG,
“do you think blood lust is limited to the theater of war?”
No way! Have you seen these video games now? If I had kids I’d try my best to keep them away from that! I mean, I was obsessed with Star Trek, Star Wars, and Legos when I was a kid. And Erector sets…where are those now? All that said, I don’t think most of our servicemen and servicewomen are out there for live target practice. Some because they believe first and foremost in protecting our nation, the rest love our country enough to fight for it for some return benefit afterwards.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:30 pm
Paul
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022700566.html
I suppose he could have just ordered 90,000 tickets from air tran.
Swede Atlanta
February 16th, 2010
12:31 pm
This blog is symptomatic of the bigger problems we have in this country.
We can’t even agree that this capture is a good thing in the war on terror, a sign of progress in the fight to marginalize the Afghani Taliban. We can never eliminate the Taliban. Anyone who doubts that just needs to think about the French and American experiences in Vietnam and the British and Russian histories in Afghanistan.
This is indeed a good thing. We should all see this as a positive development. But partisan politics no longer stops at the water’s edge. I fear for America’s future.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:31 pm
whacks
also see a sale at Ann Taylor loft…..
Paul
February 16th, 2010
12:31 pm
Whacks
[[And Erector sets…where are those now?]]
I understand that’s a common lament as guys get older…
I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
February 16th, 2010
12:31 pm
President Obama kicks off what might be called his “Save the Senate” tour this week, heading west to campaign for two embattled Democrats trailing badly against Republican challengers – including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.
Hot damn!
We’ll take back the Senate for sure now.
md
February 16th, 2010
12:31 pm
“do you think blood lust is limited to the theater of war?”
Not at all, but the discussion was about war. You adding a tangent to the discussion?
Paul
February 16th, 2010
12:32 pm
Granny Godzilla
And that timetable for withdrawal was negotiated by who?
Jenifer
February 16th, 2010
12:33 pm
I’m sure Cheeeeeney will be taking credit for the capture just as soon as he can get on Faux News.
Eric Holder's Momma
February 16th, 2010
12:33 pm
How about an internet video that shows this jerk getting his head cut off?
When he’s dead cover his corpse in pigs blood and bury him face down pointed west!
That’s justice!
getalife
February 16th, 2010
12:34 pm
Paul,
No, the mess they inherited should not be ignored and the torture put the judicial system in a tough spot. Ignoring illegal activities ruins the credibility of our legal system.
cheney admitted supporting torture again and that should not be ignored. It should be prosecuted like we have done in the past. England is not ignoring the Iraq disaster.
The consequences of w and cheney’s destruction of our country has not ended yet.
Give it a decade.
jt
February 16th, 2010
12:34 pm
Bosch -
You probably know that I am susceptable to conspirancy theories,(but some turn out to be true)
but anyway,
I crave fast-food burgers like a drug. A homemade burger doesn’t take the craving away. Burger King being the strongest. Not all of the time. Commercials often trigger it. I think there is some ingredient that causes this. People get hooked on Coke. I thought that the cocaine was taken out of Coke, but I found out that an extract from the coca plant is STILL in coke.
It is weird. Try that new sauce. Its makes a Mcnugget palatable.
Midori
February 16th, 2010
12:34 pm
Jimmy needs to find someone else to stalk.
Have a peanut on me…..
md
February 16th, 2010
12:34 pm
“I understand that’s a common lament as guys get older…”
Not anymore.
Ah, the joys of progress.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:35 pm
Paul
You mean after Iraq and the left pushed for it?
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:37 pm
md
nope. no tangent adding by me.
just making sure that you understand that one does not have to…how did you put it….see battle to understand blood lust.
md
February 16th, 2010
12:38 pm
“The consequences of w and cheney’s destruction of our country has not ended yet.
Give it a decade.”
Ten years time and Iraq is functioning well as a democracy, the next generation won’t care.
War is a reality show to many in this country as it is.
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
12:38 pm
jt,
I think they lace fast food burgers with heroin, just saying.
I’m a marketers dream come true. Something I’d usually look at and go “gross” – have an Olympic athlete eat it, smoke it, drink it, rub it all over their face, and I’m like “Oh yeah, baby! Give me some of that!”
Whacks Eloquent
February 16th, 2010
12:39 pm
Bosch,
“For your argument to be valid, Islamic extremists wouldn’t target their own.”
Respectfully disagree. Muslim extremist terrorists have not shown much concern about collateral losses, the end justifies the means. They probably acknowledge as much brotherhood with mainstream Muslims as Baptists do with Mormons…
Do you really believe you could capture a Muslim extremist terrorist, sit down and have a rational conversation with him and actually have him walk away from the table not wanting to kill you? Unless you told him that you also were a radical terrorist who hated the west…
Paul
February 16th, 2010
12:39 pm
getalife
By the past I meant the constant focusing on Life Before Obama – the previous administration. They’ve focusing on blame for the faults – not credit for the successes.
Cheney lost his battles in the Bush Administration. Pres Obama’s team should let him enjoy his retirement out of the limelight, but I think they like the distractions.
Granny Godzilla
Pres Obama tweaked the timetable. That’s all. VP Biden was being silly.
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
12:39 pm
Paul,
I’ve reached the point now where I lament my boys (and girl mind you) playing with Legos, and fake light sabers (those are way cool). I’ll have to wait a few years for grand kids I guess.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:40 pm
Paul
if so than that would be President Bush.
He negotiated it, long after it had become apparent that both America and Iraq wanted it, and President Obama is doing it.
It’s a good thing.
Paul
February 16th, 2010
12:41 pm
Bosch
[[have an Olympic athlete eat it, smoke it, drink it, rub it all over their face, and I’m like “Oh yeah, baby! Give me some of that!”]]
Is that why you ate the latest Sports Illustrated?
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:41 pm
Paul
I think you are being silly.
But ya’ know I love ya’ anyway.
getalife
February 16th, 2010
12:42 pm
md,
They are purging Christians and still blowing up each other.
A dictator like Saddam will probably stop the killing in ten years.
Scooter (the Original)
February 16th, 2010
12:42 pm
This is great news. I simply hope there is enough nationalist glue to hold the tribes together once the disruptors are removed. This is one of my concerns regarding this battle front… specifically chosen by our enemies. However, I will not lower myself to degrading the morale of our troops, like so many “progressives” were happy to do when dissent was the greatest form of patriotism.
Paul
February 16th, 2010
12:43 pm
Granny Godzilla
Yes, it is a good thing.
Better if we were all gone, though.
Bosch
Word of the day: lament.
Sounds cool, huh? Kinda trails off the tongue before that final ‘t.’
josef nix’ll have to tell us the techie terms for it.
@@
February 16th, 2010
12:43 pm
you completely avoided taking responsibility for your wrong doing.
Cash for Clunkers?
I was invited by your Obama to participate in CfC. I took him up on his offer, made a profit and helped a small businessman on his road to success. I then contributed what remained to charity. Am I to assume that the wrongdoing, of which you speak, was the profit making?
It was charitable giving for the most part. The landscaper fella needed a good truck at a reasonable price. He was too poor to partake of Obama’s CfC program.
Stratfor?
I did acknowledge wrongdoing here at jay’s. You choose to ignore the obvious. It’s who you are. A convenient tool for you, Obama’s convenient tool.
Giddyup, donkey!
Del
February 16th, 2010
12:44 pm
“Rules of Engagement” are designed by civilian politicians in government and those Generals who are at the right hand of government officials. Those ranking military Generals become politicized and lose their perspective for wars harsh realities. Our military fighting in Marjah have been hampered by rules of engagement that prohibit firing unless they can clearly see an enemy physically holding a weapon. Civilians are not to be considered an enemy even though that can be very difficult to distinguish. The Taliban are aware of our rules of engagement and use them against us by having woman and children carry their weapons or use them as shields. It is interesting that some on the left, perhaps because Obama was forced to prosecute the war against terror and it disappoints them, have concocted an illusion that under Obama the military is changing its combat strategy. They have convinced themselves that combat infantry operations have become sanitized and that our objective is no longer to destroy the enemy and his will/ability to fight. The infantry objective has not changed. What changes is adapting, overcoming or circumventing politically motivated rules of engagement In order to accomplish the mission. Evidently, our military is doing a splendid job in spite of conditions being imposed on them.
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
12:45 pm
Whacks,
“Muslim extremist terrorists have not shown much concern about collateral losses, the end justifies the means.”
As I said earlier, in my opinion, using their “god” is an excuse and a smoke screen in their ultimate goal in forcing others to their beliefs, or else.
“Do you really believe you could capture a Muslim extremist terrorist, sit down and have a rational conversation with him and actually have him walk away from the table not wanting to kill you?”
No I don’t think that, just as I don’t think I could have a rational conversation with a Christian extremist who, after discussing our views, would not be convinced I would burn for all eternity in a lake of fire.
Swede Atlanta
February 16th, 2010
12:46 pm
Ref: Eric Holder’s Mamma
While that might give you a temporary feeling of satisfaction it is just that type of behavior that would be used by extremists to recruit more suicide bombers and fighters.
We have to fight against those tendencies or suffer the consequences. Every thing we do that can be construed as further evidence of this being a war between Christians and Muslims will be used against us, and to our peril.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:47 pm
so
@@ (is now just stratfor)
you did something stratfor threatened your subscription over and it’s somebody elses fault?
again no snitch i, but i’m laughing my ass off now.
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
12:47 pm
Paul,
I ate it with that new McDonald’s Chili Sauce and it was awesome. Tasted like chicken.
I learned a new word, from again, a commercial during the Olympics, “puffery” – exaggerated statement based on opinion instead of fact. It’s my new word of the week. Of course, I looked it up and it doesn’t really mean that, but since they said so on the commercial, I’m like “Oh, okay.”
Whacks Eloquent
February 16th, 2010
12:47 pm
Bosch,
Likely the Christian extremist won’t kill you though, unless you’re an abortion doctor!
Do you really think most of these terrorists don’t believe what they say they do? Why would they be willing to die for a god they don’t think exists?
Paul
February 16th, 2010
12:49 pm
Granny Godzilla
The Obama Administration had to do nothing except let events play out in Iraq. No big changes, no grand strategies, nothing. For VP Biden to call that one of the great achievements of his administration…
Unless he really DID mean doing not much of anything except going on autopilot IS one of their great achievements….
Jenifer
February 16th, 2010
12:49 pm
Another nail in the Cheeeeeney blithering and delusional coffin. Obama and his administration are taking the terrorists to task causing Cheeeeeney to now stumble in order to find new inaccurate and dishonest attacks against Obama’s handling the war on terror.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:50 pm
Paul
yep, all he had to do was make it happen.
getalife
February 16th, 2010
12:51 pm
Del,
The rules are to limit destruction of the city and the people. It is more of a police and training mission because the taliban will not engage. The mission has definitely changed so don’t believe everything you read on Drudge.
md
February 16th, 2010
12:52 pm
“A dictator like Saddam will probably stop the killing in ten years.”
Point is, ten years is a long time – can go either way.
@@
February 16th, 2010
12:52 pm
JAY BOOKMAN!
Do you wanna step in here??? I’ve asked her repeatedly to let this go…you have too.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:47 pm
so
@@ (is now just stratfor)
you did something stratfor threatened your subscription over and it’s somebody elses fault?
again no snitch i, but i’m laughing my ass off now.
That reminds me, jay, why was LA banned?
Paul
February 16th, 2010
12:53 pm
Bosch
And not just any commercial. An Olympic commercial!
Whacks
While driving and listening to the radio I heard of a string of arson fires. Against churches. Whole bunch of them.
Had to wonder, if it had been abortion clinics instead of churches, would the coverage have been different?
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
12:53 pm
Whacks,
True, but Christian extremists use emotional terrorism. To me, that’s just as bad.
“Do you really think most of these terrorists don’t believe what they say they do? Why would they be willing to die for a god they don’t think exists?”
I didn’t say they don’t believe in their “god” – of course they believe what they say, extremists aren’t very smart in my opinion and do not see the the big picture outside their own belief system. They are incapable of doing so, again, imho.
I think they use their beliefs as a tool, and many times aren’t even aware of it. I think the smarter ones use the dumber ones to advance their own goals. People like Bin laden have bigger goals and use the uneducated extremists who probably have never been out of their own neighborhoods to advance their agenda. Big difference.
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
12:54 pm
Paul,
Like I said, you pair a product with an Olympian, and I’m all about it, because there’s still a little part of me who wants so desperately to be on that podium after hearing my name being called listening to my national anthem. I think most of us do.
md
February 16th, 2010
12:55 pm
“We have to fight against those tendencies or suffer the consequences. Every thing we do that can be construed as further evidence of this being a war between Christians and Muslims will be used against us, and to our peril.”
Short of becoming isolationists and defriending Isreal, nothing will change.
The ME war has been going on a very, very long time.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:56 pm
@@
i’m done now. i finally know the story.
i didn’t snitch. you screwed up.
let’s be friends.
Del
February 16th, 2010
12:56 pm
getalife,
Been there done that and I don’t read Drudge. No it’s not a police and training mission. The Taliban aren’t engaging? May want to get current.
md
February 16th, 2010
12:56 pm
“The rules are to limit destruction of the city and the people.”
At the expense of our soldiers. The unintended consequences get your neighbors killed.
getalife
February 16th, 2010
12:57 pm
md,
My prediction is based on the history of that region.
It will take a brutal dictator to stop the violence.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
12:57 pm
Bosch and Paul
I might be persuaded to watch the hockey….can you give me enough info
to make Mr. G think i know something about it?
hockey cliff notes if you will.
@@
February 16th, 2010
12:58 pm
let’s be friends.
How pathetic is ^^^ that?
md
February 16th, 2010
12:59 pm
“True, but Christian extremists use emotional terrorism. To me, that’s just as bad.”
Somehow don’t think Daniel Pearl and others would agree with that statement.
Jay
February 16th, 2010
1:00 pm
Granny G, let’s not go there again, OK?
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
1:02 pm
Mrs. G.,
I know very little about hockey, the rules that is, except that it looks like soccer with sticks on ice. I just like to see guys smash into each other and slam each other into the walls and the ice. That’s fun. At least I think it would be fun. I’d like to do that, but I couldn’t stay upright on the skates. Just yell, “Oh yeah!” when you see two guys smash into each other.
md
February 16th, 2010
1:02 pm
“My prediction is based on the history of that region.”
You aren’t giving the Lebanese much hope with that kind of statement.
Eastern Europe had a pretty bloody history too, under the soviets.
Whacks Eloquent
February 16th, 2010
1:03 pm
Bosch,
Emotional terrorism, hmm. Hardly confined to Christian extremists. Atheists call Christians stupid, irrelevant, and any other childish term you can think of, trying to make us feel inferior to them. Not that it works but that is also an attempt at emotional terrorism.
Another example is the global warming extremists. Not people who just believe in the theory, but the ones (like Gore) who like to paint pictures of destruction and mayhem that will come from not acting immediately and radically. Children actually are having nightmares after having seen “An Inconvenient Truth”, but they probably saw “Day After Tomorrow” without any ill effects. What is the difference? Gore presents his vision as a fact, a practically unavoidable consequence, and the kids pick up on and fear the exaggerated outcome. THAT is emotional terrorism. What some cooky fundamentalist says about me going to hell – yes I am Christian but for some fools only their brand is safe – does not bother me. Let the fools say what they want, but when they come to torture or kill my family, a SERIOUS line is crossed! Cue Disciple’s “I Just Know”!
Paul
February 16th, 2010
1:04 pm
Granny Godzilla
[[yep, all he had to do was make it happen.]]
Somehow, I thought a guy with his background had a higher standard for determining a great achievement.
Granny
Sure. It’s played on ice, they hit this little puckie (I just typed ‘pukie’ lol) thingie with sticks and try to get it in the opposing team’s net. It’s called a ‘goal.’ (They used to yell ’score’ but that’s not a good idea with a bunch of drunk spectators listening…)
Every so often they have fights and get sent for time out.
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
1:04 pm
md,
Yeah, true, but victims of emotional abuse (and in many cases physical abuse) by priests/preachers would agree. Daniel Pearl lost his head, but victims of abuse at the hands of “men of God” have to live their lives with that.
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
1:06 pm
Whacks,
I don’t care for extremists period. Environmental, religious, political – any of them.
md
February 16th, 2010
1:06 pm
“I know very little about hockey, the rules that is, except that it looks like soccer with sticks on ice.”
Maybe soccer can change their rules and let the guys knock the crap out of each other without those silly little cards – then, like hockey it won’t be quite so boring.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
1:07 pm
Paul
I don’t know….perhaps being able to complete such an arduous task is a great achievement.
Hockey…
Does the USA stand a chance?
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
1:07 pm
md
great idea!
Whacks Eloquent
February 16th, 2010
1:08 pm
Dang, wrong Disciple song lyrics. Meant “Game On”…
“When the lights go up and the game is on Are you ready for me? ‘Cause I’m ready for you When the bell rings out and the fight is on Are you ready for me? ‘Cause I’m ready for you It’s time for us to start throwing down Take a look and see who’s standing now Didn’t even know that you and I were cross Until a sneak attack from the weak side Unaware that we were in a fight I guess that’s part of the problem, but guess what Say what you want to say about me Throw up what you want to throw up at me But when you mess with those that are around me That’s when you and I will have a problem I’m not afraid of loving my enemies Turning the other cheek Blessing those that would curse me I honestly want peace with you But when you come against my country When you come against my family You try to destroy my people I can’t just stand by There’s no way that I can stand by This time, I will not stand by I am coming, and if I come, then pain is coming with me I’m coming, and pain will be with me”
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
1:08 pm
md,
Trust me, soccer players knock the crap out of each other plenty without seeing those silly little cards. Those silly little cards are hockeys equivalent of time out.
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
1:10 pm
Mrs. G.,
“Does the USA stand a chance?”
Did you not watch the 1980 Lake Placid Olympics?
They always have a chance! That’s what the Olympics are all about!
Paul
February 16th, 2010
1:10 pm
Granny
Beats me. Last time I watched an Olympic hockey game was in 1980 when the USA amateurs beat the ’till then best in the world professional Russian Red Army team!
Okay Bosch, gimme a cheer! YAAAYYYY!
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
1:11 pm
hope ya’ saw my 1:09 while it lasted.
Scooter
February 16th, 2010
1:12 pm
of course they believe what they say, extremists aren’t very smart in my opinion and do not see the the big picture outside their own belief system. They are incapable
Sounds like the liberal ladies on this blog to me.
Granny Godzilla
February 16th, 2010
1:12 pm
Ok so now we know the last time we all watched olympic hockey….
Kamchak
February 16th, 2010
1:12 pm
Granny Godzilla
Truth–yes.
md
February 16th, 2010
1:12 pm
“Trust me, soccer players knock the crap out of each other plenty without seeing those silly little cards. Those silly little cards are hockeys equivalent of time out.”
“Didn’t mean to” hits are not quite the same as “take that you sob” hits. Hockey has that nascar element that soccer lacks. People watch nascar for the wrecks and the last lap, and they watch hockey for some of the same reasons.
Bosch
February 16th, 2010
1:17 pm
Mrs. G.,
Oh no, the last time I watched Olympic hockey was in 2006! But don’t ask me who won.
md,
I’ve never figured out why anyone watches NASCAR, just saying. But I think those who watch soccer is just slightly more than hockey and NASCAR (combined x a million or billion or so).
TnGelding
February 16th, 2010
3:29 pm
Now if they can just capture “the top al Qaeda leader.”