Barack Obama and the ‘blame Bush’ argument

Yet another “so and so did it too” argument.

Geez…….

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Yeah but Reagan turned it around.

obozo, hahahaha, hold your breath if you believe.

On the off chance that mammoth mortgages to people who could barely afford food somehow went bad, Wall Street firms could be confident that their Democrat friends would bail them out.-AnnCoulter

And they did, time and time again.

But of course the children say Bush made them do it.

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Common lib argument…”here’s an example of where conservatives do the SAME thing!!!!” Getting boring. Here are the differences:
1. RR’s entire staff didn’t blame everything on Carter. After the Brown victory…they all – Gibbs, Dean and Obama ETC. said that the LOSS WAS BUSH”S fault!
2.This president is no Ronald Reagan…see, the public was “buying” Reagan. The populous finally sees through this president.
3. He made promises to get elected, and simply ignores them (must I list them?)
4. RR NEVER called out another branch of the government.
And there’s more…

“A good leader takes a little more than his share of the blame, a little less than his share of the credit.”
We’re not in Chicago anymore.

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This president is no Ronald Reagan…

…and there was much rejoicing.

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“Common lib argument…”here’s an example of where conservatives do the SAME thing!!!!” Getting boring. Here are the differences:”

And how is that different from the Con game of saying: here’s an example of a liberal doing the same thing!!!

No “side” is immune to that, both sides are EQUALLY guilty. The same playground rule applies to BOTH: “Tommy did it too” is not a valid defense

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JonahGoldberg??

oh my. reaching aren’t we?

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“And how is that different from the Con game of saying: here’s an example of a liberal doing the same thing!!!”

And how is that different than a liberal saying here is an example of a conservative doing something a liberal said a conservative said a liberal said that he does?

Man this is getting silly.

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This falls along that so called ‘train of thought’ where Obowo said that the people of Massachusetts were so very angry at what had been done in the previos eight years, that they voted in a Republican.

Yessir, they voted in a Republican because they were so mad at Bush.

Someone remind me please, what party was Bush? I’m thinking … I know it will come to me soon … no hints now … oh yes, he was a Republican.

The stupidity of this arrogant fool defies description, at least one that can be used here, because all of his mushroom head drooling followers still believe he is a Messiah. Hell, Chris Matthews even “…forgot he was black…” last night, watching him.

It is so easy to control the minds of idiots, because there is so little to do, so little to work with.

A while back I was speaking about Obowo should be impeached. I freely admit now that I was wrong. An arrogant, self-serving, defiant, angry fool like him needs to be on center stage, so all America can see this fraud for what he really is. He is on a course, if not changed, of not only causing major damage to his political party, but to make for dammed sure that qualified and able or not, America will look at minorities running for major office in the future will see their hopes dimmed, if not totally snuffed out.

Of course his idiot patrol and the socialists will still defend him to the end.

They are too stupid not to.

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That refrain from Ronald Reagan resonated because he was viewed as an achiever by a majority of people including many Democrats. Obama’s continuing campaign strategy of blaming Bush is now failing because unfortunately for the country and maybe even for him he’s the president. After being in office for now over a year, voters are now seeing him as a overreaching underachiever who can’t even effectively govern while his party holds a majority in both chambers of congress.

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There must be some way we can blame everything on poor people…

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“So it’s funny to hear the conservatives pretending that these are things that must not be said.”

I lot of this is residual effect from the absurd amount of personal blame the liberals have placed on Bush.

I had lunch with a liberal friend of mine who was off-handedly claimed that Bush was responsible for a “broken health care” system. I asked him what exactly Bush had done and he changed the subject.

You might also want to consider the fact that 1981 was 29 years ago and a lot of folks were too young to have been paying attention to Reagan’s comments on deficit spending. I assume that Bush 1 and 2 must not have behaved this way if you had to go back to Reagan, so it could be that people my age have not seen a President blame his predecessor so regularly and so late into his Presidency and find Obama doing so unseemly.

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Mike,

Do REALLY believe we are richer today than when Reagan took office? My God! Where have you been?

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getalife –

“The consequences of the w disaster gave us the SC decision and a political SC.”

And no Supreme Courts were political prior to this one? What makes this Court more political than all of the other ones?

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“A thin majority of the Supreme Court, made possible by President Bush’s appointment of Justice [Samuel] Alito, has thrown out important parts of the law and run roughshod over a long line of longstanding Court precedent,” Leahy said. “This is the most partisan decision since Bush v. Gore. That decision by the activist conservative bloc on the Supreme Court intervened in a presidential election. This decision is broader and more damaging in that they have now decided to intervene in all elections.”

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Obama doesn’t need to remind anyone. He has done little else his entire first year. And it is strange to see him include tax cuts as a problem he inherited, after bragging over and over about his own tax cut to 95% of Americans.

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mike,

“And no Supreme Courts were political prior to this one? What makes this Court more political than all of the other ones?”

Very long..but interesting information.

http://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1364&context=fac_artchop

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I’m sure Patrick will rally the fractured democratic part with his words of wisdom.

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Bookman practices corporate sponsored journalistic malpractice on behalf of the dummycrat party but it is his right of free speech, after all.

hahahaha

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Certainly, Bush II had no condition to blame on his predecessor. You inherit a budget surplus? And when has that happened before.

Of course, the reformed drunk and coke user proceeded to squander so much money on unprovoked wars and tax cuts for the wealthy that he left a trillion dollar deficit. Worse, to hide it, he and his minions refused to count the war appropriations as part of the annual budget. Sort of like writing a big check but not entering it in the register and then pretending the check doesn’t exist as a liability.

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Ok, I read the Think progress article.
Now in the spirit of political tit-4-tat…& breaking reference taboos
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20100128/cm_ucac/cantweatleastgetatoaster

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“I think Obama showed his desperation last night in his totally inappropriate attack on the Supreme Court.”

con talking point.

Perhaps other countries and corp donors will unite to end conservatism.

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“Certainly, Bush II had no condition to blame on his predecessor. You inherit a budget surplus? And when has that happened before.”

Well if he was as cynical as Obama, he could have claimed that the Al Qaeda threat grew under Clinton. He could have said that the rapid decline of the manufacturing base was due to NAFTA.

I would not have made those arguments and neither did Bush. That being said, they are as reasonable as Obama’s complaints about Bush.

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Yes, but Reagan wasn’t born in Kenya.

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OK-No problem – I read the Think Progress article.
Now, in the spirit of this blog’s political tit-4-tat…and suspension of reference taboos…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20100128/cm_ucac/cantweatleastgetatoaster

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totally inappropriate attack on the Supreme Court

There was nothing inappropriate about his remarks. Turn off the Fox News.

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jewcowboy –

“There are still 40 incumbents from the GOP in the Senate whose only contribution seems to be saying no.”

Well that is the talking point isn’t it. Did they say no to the Afghan surge? Why should they be expected to vote for legislation that they don’t support? For legislation that the American people do not support?

Were the Dems the party of No in 2004 when Bush pushed Social Security reform and the Dems behaved exactly as the Republicans are now?

Regardless, none of this has anything to do with the point that you seemed to have missed twice.

“My point was that if there is an “anti-incumbent” atmosphere in Independents…it is not just the Democrats who are going to need to sweat a little.”

Actually, you are wrong about that. Mindless partisans on both ends of the spectrum will stick to their pre-programmed responses and independents have moved towards voting out the incumbents. This will make the difference in the purple states that the Dems won in 2008.

Don’t take it from me though. Every political analyst from Jay to Rove has acknowledged this to be true.

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After September the 11th, 2001, we’ve taught the terrorists a very different lesson: America will not run in defeat and we will not forget our responsibilities

W should have continued that sentence: “and we haven’t a clue on how to win a war or EVEN what a definition of “win” is. And, more importantly we have shown them that we can throw all kinds of money at a problem with no intent to solve it.”

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The fact of the matter is that all prior administrations brought us to where we are, as every single admin has to deal with policies already on the books. Not a single one of them were allowed to wipe the slate clean and start from scratch.

So it is pitiful that they even resort to finger pointing, as their parties (and Barry himself as a senator) all played a part in the fiasco.

Now, a true leader will put himself in front of this country and say “it is what it is, now lets get to work”. Doubt that will happen any time soon.

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All that pay attention and understands how our economic system works are aware of the macro and micro ramifications of what is currently in play and the genesis of those forces.

President Obama should spend more of his time proposing what he thinks should be done because nothing he says or proposes will be accepted by many. Put it on the table, stand behind it and let the naysayers do what they normally do, shoot themselves in the foot and exclaim “…it doesn’t hurt.”

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mike,

“Wow, you are really in mindless partisan mode tonight”

Sorry Bush’s own words bit you in the bottom, as evidently did Rice’s and Evan’s did. Have a pleasant evening.

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As far as the SCOTUS decision goes, the justices ruled how they interpret the law – many here don’t agree with it, but I have yet to see anyone who disagrees with it scream “judicial activism.” Maybe they have I just haven’t seen it. I think Obama has every right to bring possible consequences of that decision to the attention of the American people, and considering it affects the actual state of our union, the time and place was appropriate. The difference is he did it with class instead of screaming some rhetorical nonsense.

It seems the ones who do agree with it have also expressed their disgust with special interests and lobbyists and how politicians are bought by them, but contradict themselves by agreeing with this decision. Go figure.

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md,

“Jay, can you tell you it guys that rid icu lous is not a bad word, thanks.”

absurd, antic, bizarre, comic, comical, contemptible, daffy, derisory, droll, fantastic, farcical, foolheaded, foolish, gelastic, goofy, grotesque, harebrained, hilarious, impossible, incredible, jerky, laughable, ludicrous, nonsensical, nutty, outrageous, preposterous, risible, sappy, silly, slaphappy, unbelievable, wacky.

I like wacky the best. Or perhaps slaphappy.

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About his criticism of the Supreme Court. He is supposed to be a “constitutional scholar”, but the opinion expressly excluded foreign corporations. It sounded like he didn’t know that, or if he did, well, then another example of lying.

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” but I have yet to see anyone who disagrees with it scream “judicial activism.” ”

I did, in reference to the objections to Sotomayor that she would “ignore precedent” and “legislate from the bench”

Funny, isn’t it, that those who objected to her because she MIGHT do either of those, had NOTHING to say about the SC judges who actually did BOTH.

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“Murray Hill Incorporated is Running for Congress
for the Best Democracy Money can Buy”

http://www.murrayhillweb.com/new_day/index.html

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@@,

Most polerizing ever? Kinda forgetting 2001 huh?

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Josef nix,

Farcical is right up there as well.

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One very big difference between Reagan and Obama – the 24 hr news cycle.

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The pattern continues. We see the same thing over and over in his last 400 or so speeches to whomever will listen. Last night, he was so full of himself that nothing else seemed to matter. He seemed actually angry that America is not accepting his mad rush to implosion. This is so typical of a narcissist. His chin up in the air, that defiant attitute of a teenager protesting to an adult that his spin on things isn’t reality. But this clown is playing with the future of this country. His speech last night wasn’t about the problems we are having in this country….. it was about him and his failure to realize that the American people are not buying his brand of BS. We don’t trust him, we don’t like his brazen attitude and a lot of those who voted for him, although wishing him well, are just like Brett Favre…. wish I had that last pass back.

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From the same press conference as the last Bookman quote-

Now, obviously these are very difficult economic times. When people analyze the situation, there will be — this problem started before my presidency, it obviously took place during my presidency

And by the way, it just wasn’t with the TARP. If you think about AIG, Fannie and Freddie — a lot of the decisions that were made in this administration are very aggressive decisions, all aiming at preventing the financial system from cratering.

So why would Bushie feel the need to save Fannie and Freddie? Community Reinvestment Act, anyone?

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Another long list?

I voted for Clinton, jay. Other than his lying under oath, I have no regrets.

Have you ever read Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”? Obama has…Hillary too. Many of those same words appear. Would you like me to pull some excerpts?

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Wonder if Jay and his fellow liberal bloggers can look back over the last year and think of a couple of big accomplishments that they would like to boast about.Remember don’t blame the republicans super majority in the senate and huge majority in the house.

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I can remember many times as a boy my parents telling me, “Don’t matter whose fault it was, you’re the one getting the whipping”.

Josef

Left you a comment below about Teddy Roosevelt.

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Just a couple of comments.

Once again, Bookman ignores the fact that the Dems controlled CONGRESS for the past 4 years, who are the folks who REALLY control the budget, but of course, you can’t blame them and their “management” of the financial sector during this crisis, can you? (Remember Barney – Fannie and Freddie are fundamentally sound – Frank two years before their meltdown?)

And if what he inherited from Bush was so darned bad, why didn’t he focus on the important things with the economy – like jobs – instead of trying to cram a health care bill down our throats? This bozo was missing in action for the first year.

And to the thread below; not only was Hope & Change rude to chastise the court during the speech, he was also classless AND wrong. His fundamental complaint last night was about foreign corporations being able to sway elections, but as ABC pointed out in their fact check today, foreign corporations are STILL barred from contributing to American political campaigns.

Classless, clueless and and a threat to freedom. That’s our Commander-in-Chief.

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Conservatives cannot accept responsibility, can they? Neither here, nor on Capitol Hill.

Yes, Bush is to blame for the budgets he signed into law. Every member of Congress who voted for those budgets – Republicans mostly, including those snickering fools, McCain and Graham, but some Democrats, too – is responsible. Senator Orrin Hatch said “it was standard practice not to pay for things.” They are responsible for that. And so is every voter who cast a ballot for any one of them, even when that “standard practice” was obvious. I suspect that includes Miller, O’Reilly, and many of the deficit hawks in this thread. They are responsible for trillions in debt.

But make note of that, and whoa, watch them squeal. It has to be the all the Democrats’ fault somehow, doesn’t it?

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Ooooo FIRST!

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Perhaps the worst (saddest) line of the speech: ” I know that there are those who disagree with the overwhelming scientific evidence on climate change.”

This on the heels of more embarrassment for the IPCC and the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia.

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Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” — Prologue

“The Revolutionary force today has two targets, moral as well as material. Its young protagonists are one moment reminiscent of the idealistic early Christians, yet they also urge violence and cry, ‘Burn the system down!’ They have no illusions about the system, but plenty of illusions about the way to change our world. It is to this point that I have written this book.”

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So Alinsky’s book (the DNC political manual) is dedicated to Lucifer- the father of all lies ?!

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“Conservatives cannot accept responsibility, can they? Neither here, nor on Capitol Hill.

Yes, Bush is to blame for the budgets he signed into law. Every member of Congress who voted for those budgets – Republicans mostly”

Do your homework and then come back and try again. Concentrate on the Republican administration and the Democratic congress in your reading, and maybe you can be a little less partisan.

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Good grief, Hillary wrote her senior thesis at Wellesley on Alinsky.

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Hillbilly–
Got you post and was waiting to see if you were about. Like Jay, I read the reports from time to time for the sheer pleasure of, even when not the content of the passage, for the beauty and precision of the language…

On American Indian policies, it is a story which will never be properly told since to do so would cast a highly negative light on many of our “unified” national heroes of the late 19th Century. The transition from a policy of removal of the nation to new territory “for as long as the rivers run” to a policy of genocide “the only good Indian is a dead Indian” was the triumph of a line of thought from a sector of society which, sadly was predicated on greed and corruption.

Lafayette Baker, eh? Another one of that crowd we don’t talk much about, but I will never forget when as a child, I heard my grandfather burst into laughter, a rare ocurrence, while reading his paper. Turned out that it was a quote from Senator Proxmire calling J Edgar “a penny ante Lafayette Baker…”

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If Republicans would just man up and accept responsibility for their problems, there would be no need to constantly correct them.

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Lets take them one at a time:

“And let me add here: so many of our greatest statesmen have reminded us that spiritual values alone are essential to our nation’s health and vigor. The Congress opens its proceedings each day, as does the Supreme Court, with an acknowledgment of the Supreme Being — yet we are denied the right to set aside in our schools a moment each day for those who wish to pray. I believe Congress should pass our school prayer amendment. (Applause.)”

This first one refers to the “school prayer amendment” that he wishes congress to pass. Obviously an amendment had already been introduced or on the table.

“Now, to make sure there is a full nine-member Supreme Court to interpret the law, to protect the rights of all Americans, I urge the Senate to move quickly and decisively in confirming Judge Anthony Kennedy to the highest Court in the land and to also confirm 27 nominees now waiting to fill vacancies in the federal judiciary. (Applause.)”

This paragraph is in reference to confirmation of Kennedy to the SC.

Again, I ask where is the reference to a SC ruling?????

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Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” — Of Means and Ends

“The end is what you want, the means is how you get it. Whenever we think about social change, the question of means and ends arises. The man of action views the issue of means and ends in pragmatic and strategic terms. He has no other problem; he thinks only of his actual resources and the possibilities of various choices of action. He asks of ends only whether they are achievable and worth the cost; of means, only whether they will work. … The real arena is corrupt and bloody.”

I have “The Communist Manifesto” too, if a little variety is what’s needed here. I can switch it around. Talk about Means to an End!!?!!

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Soros can cut out the middleman now @@.

Scared?

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Scared, Getalife?

Nah….we’re gonna put the barricades up in November, and throw Obama in the Harbor come 2012.

(IWH)

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JAY–

Said list may have…I would imagine the reason we had such a list had to do with a basic conflict of interests at work in the place I worked. The editorial stance was highly conservative on most issues and plumb right wing on others, but had a staff the polar opposite, bordering on left wing revolutionaries. It made the job easier! We had one old die-hard from the 30s as state editor and his column was referred to as “the fifth column!” It was a great time and place for boy-young man to come of age…warped and twisted me for life!

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Again, I ask where is the reference to a SC ruling?????

yet we are denied the right to set aside in our schools a moment each day for those who wish to pray.

OK. Let’s take this from the beginning. Reagan says we are “denied the right to set aside in our schools a moment each day for those who wish to pray.” So he’s calling school prayer a right. Now the issue is who denied that right? He knows, and his listeners know, that the Supreme Court ruled that school prayer conducted under official auspices is unconstitutional. Although there were two previous cases that resulted in a similar ruling, the cardinal one is Lemon v. Kurtzman [1971]. This ruling established the so-called “Lemon test” which states that in order to be constitutional under the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment any practice sponsored within state run schools (or other public, state sponsored activities) must:

1. Have a secular purpose;
2. Neither advance nor inhibit religion as its primary effect, and;
3. Not result in an excessive entanglement between government and religion.

Believe me, not a person in that room when Reagan made that speech was confused about the reference point. You probably weren’t around in those times, when preachers were railing against this Supreme Court holding, parents were upset, and there were references to the “godless courts.” I was.

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curious observer…

Remember the “Impeach Earl Warren” billboards?

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Well, you have Murdoch and our friends the Saudis to fund your candidates @@.

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co,

Presidents have always talked before congress about the need for this law or that law (many bounced back and forth between the SC), but their own decorum kept them from addressing the supremes directly. That was breached last night.

Do I really care – no, but it will set a messy precedent in the future if continued. Why would the supremes even show up if the other branches of gov’t are going to take pot shots.

There is a time and a place, he knows that.

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You have to admit radical liberals comparing their guy to Regan is novel. Not very bright, but novel.

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Bosch:

Citizenship: Not debatable
Eligibility: Not debatable
Birthplace: Debatable

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Hillbilly–
Did you ever read Bennet Cerf’s “It All Started with Columbus?” He made comment that the Dutch had purchased Manhatten “for a handful of beads” and footnoted, “beads were then selling for $24 a handful.” Unmentionable says, “and property values have sho nuff declined…”

I ran across one the other day I kind of liked. When Sheridan was “negotiating” a treaty, the Chief wanted some canons. “For you to use against my soldiers?” Sheridan sniped. “No,” said the Chief, “to use against the cowboys. We can use clubs on your soldiers.”

In my line of work I get to hear from a wide range of foreigners about “you Americans.” Almost to a one they have trouble understanding our holding our political leadership to a higher moral standard than we do other public figures when, as they say, that’s the last group you should expect such of!

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“Catcher in the Rye”

Drivel then ……… drivel now.

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Gregg Throws A Hissy Fit When Asked To Provide Specifics About Programs He Would Cut

No answers, so continue to cry like a baby about the question.

Expect Gregg to show up soon on Faux so he can feel better.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/28/gregg-msnbc-hissy-fit/

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GOP-2010: THE NEW 5th COLUMN

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the Dems controlled CONGRESS for the past 4 years,

what number comes after “2,”, again?

Jay, better trolls, please.

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Yosarian

Mastadon Cavalry might not be too manueverable but I’d to be in their path!

Josef

Seems like I read that by Cerf. If I did it was a very long time ago. Wasn’t the Indian who sold Manhattan actually from a tribe that wasn’t in control of Manhattan? Seems like I’ve read somewhere that he was poaching on another tribe’s land.

Another interesting fact that I stumbled across the other day is that the last farm on Manhattan was sold in the 1930’s. I was surprised it was that recent. (Y’all may have notice my mind wanders from subject to subject. )

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scout…I agree

my 11th grade AP English Lit teacher had a sick fascination with “catcher in the Rye”, but I found it shallow and pedantic…MUCH LIKE OBAMA

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Us mini minions prefer “Lillputians”, if you don’t mind.

Okey dokey! “Lillputians As Gullibles Travel”.

Works for me!

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Scout–
Yep. One of those no longer on the required lists that really bothers me is Saroyan’s “The Human Comedy…” One of the best coming of age stories I think I’ve ever read.

I was going over the reading list for one of my private students, 9th grader, and was struck by the near absence of such works…back in my day, the curriculum was centered on these…

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I’ve never read “Catcher in the Rye” but I have read “Catcher in the Wry” by Bob Uecker.

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josef:

Not to worry ……….. most can’t read now anyway let alone comprehend any type of hidden
meaning.

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Another interesting fact that I stumbled across the other day is that the last farm on Manhattan was sold in the 1930’s.

I’m a little surprised it was quite that late, but given how so much building in the northern reaches took place in the teens and thirties, I guess I shouldn’t be.

Pretty sure there is still farmland on Staten Island.

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Well, with “please ask and more tail” just around the corner I guess the Pentagon will be ordering more “dresses” for the 82nd Airborne, et al.

That’s the next step ……… the right to wear the uniform that makes them feel “complete”.

Pink berets anyone?

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Adolph Hitler responds to the Ipad….

Coke Zero spewed forth…, this is the funniest thing I have EVER seen….

Mein Fuhrer, It can run iphone apps…Iphone apps? I wanted osx!!!!!!! what the F***!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnT0zp8Ya4&feature=player_embedded#

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Pink berets and matching rifle sight. What a navel idea.

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Remember the “Impeach Earl Warren” billboards?

Indeed I do. The Warren Court was lambasted as too liberal.

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I can hear some of the new cadences now:

“Road guard road guard don’t be blue,
Elvis was transexual too,
Give it to me left and right and left,
Give it to me left and right and left.”

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Webelo, you’re a homophobe, we get it…

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Well, in response to a question earlier…looks like it’s coming left and right!

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SFD, I stand by everything I ever say…nothing wrong with hating a politician, the left still hates Bush, as evidenced by the SOTU ..Obama has set the rules of this game..us vs them…rich vs poor, labor vs management, white vs black. He uses rhetoric to turn anger and hatred against ceo’s, big pharma, big oil, wallstreet…I turn the tables and use it against him.

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co,

Presidents have always talked before congress about the need for this law or that law (many bounced back and forth between the SC), but their own decorum kept them from addressing the supremes directly. That was breached last night.

I can see that I’ve wasted my time by trying to explain issues to a juvenile. Good day forever to you, sir or madam.

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Hi Josef;
Had you heard the story of Cranberrie’s origin ?

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I was wondering why Obama had little to say about Iran other than to say there were “growing consequences”. The majority of his speech focused on difficult times on the homefront. I thought….DANG, don’t let our enemies know we’re distracted. Anyhoo, not to worry, a woman picked up “his slack”.

Berlin–Standing next to Israeli President Shimon Peres on Tuesday, Merkel said, “Iran’s time is up. It is now time to discuss widespread international sanctions. We have shown much patience and that patience is up.”

First Mary Landreau, sarcastically thanking him for no leadership and now Angela Merkel.

Ouch!!! right in his manhood.

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Judge Orders 25-Year Old O’Keefe To Live With His Parents

I think the four ought to be collectively referred to by the acronym of ACORN standing for A Crew of republicant Nitwits although the same could be said for the 31 members of the U.S. House who authored a resolution praising O’Keefe.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/judge_orders_alleged_phone_tamperer_okeefe_to_live.php

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Josef;
Thanks! I was under the impression that I was all alone in my thinkin on that…nice to be in company with unmentionable & you!

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Jenifer:

You seem to have a fascination for O’Keefe. If he serves time, maybe you two can exchange letters, get married, enjoy conjugal visits. Be sure to use a condom.

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To josef:

Regarding your 8:26. You are correct as there was no such thing as the “noble savage.” They were just as murderous, enslaved each other, etc. as those who came here ……….. and many were cannibals.

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Josef, Hillbilly;
One of my favorite books is; “The Conquest of Mexico” by Bernal del Castillo. It’s said that the battle for the Aztec capital was the largest battle in modern history. (So much for Kursk or the Bulge).
Greatist Western Story ever told…in my opinion

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“Be sure to use a condom.”

Surely you can’t be advocating birth control. Such hypocrisy.

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ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (Reuters) – U.S. health officials have leveraged the star power of first lady Michelle Obama to roll out a new campaign against obesity, a preventable condition that drains billions of dollars from the economy.

“Roll” is right, Idi Amin never met a lobster souffle she didn’t devour, just sayin….

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scout–
Unmentionable says to tell you, “yeah, but those cannibles were the Mesoamericans–you know, the “civilized” ones. We five civilized tribes only adopted cannibalism after we entered the free market economy!”

One of his fun ones with the feminist element when they go to lauding the role of women in the “councils” of the Southeastern nations being the ones “who cast the deciding vote on matters of war,” is “yeah, and if the men objected, they beat the h*ll out of them and sent them to take care of bidness, and castrating the ones who still put up a fuss…”

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If y’all keep giving me books to read, I’ll never get caught up.

Seriously, I’ll add The “Conquest of Mexico” to my read someday list.

A story I’ve often heard is that if the Cherokee in this area were out hunting squirrels or whatever and they ran into a hollow tree, the Cherokee would just plug the hole and cut the tree down. Don’t know if it’s actually true or not but it falls in there with the thinking about clear cutting. I don’t think anybody really started thinking about conservation until the 2nd half of the 19th Century (in the U. S. anyway). When populations were small, compared to today, they must’ve thought everything was in endless supply. I had an ancestor who is supposed to have killed 96 deer in one year here in North Georgia in 1833. I assume he was eating some and selling some. I doubt they were pleasure hunters in those days, wouldn’t have had the time between the clearing and farming and all. Of course by the turn of the 20th century, deer were almost extinct in Georgia and didn’t make a comeback until Arthur Woody started restocking them in the 1920’s.

If anybody is looking for Revolutionary War vets who served from Georgia or later lived in Georgia, I stumbled across this.

http://www.archive.org/stream/georgiasrosterrev00knigrich/georgiasrosterrev00knigrich_djvu.txt

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“I have no problem with birth control. Just don’t think abortion should be used as a method of…”

Ditto. A straight woman’s version of the “G-d was I drunk last night syndrome.” I will concede that it’s ultimately a woman’s decision and I’m not out to pass judgment, but I do know from observation among those close to me, that it’s been “a ticket to ride” in way, way too many cases. And don’t get me started on straight men and their irresponsibility…I’m sort of like my mama, “I’m all for abortion on demand, provided we can make it retroactive…”

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The real laugh is this moron Barry has done nothing but point fingers and blame America!

Most voted for this loser based upon his skin color only and not substance. Again, NO WE CAN’T!

One and Done!

Enough Said!

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DONT MAKE ME START SINGING ON HERE!!!!!!!!

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Hawaii: “Elitist” And “Foreign” If Obama Goes There, Perfectly Acceptable Working Site When It’s The GOP

If Hawaii is a good enough venue for Rush Limbaugh’s latest heart attack (or indigestion, or sleep apnea, or whatever it was), darn it, it’s good enough to host a republicant hookers ‘n policy junket.

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/hawaii-elitist-and-foreign-if-obama-g

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Did someone mention “the ends justifies the means?”

WICHITA, Kan. — Scott Roeder, the man charged with murder in the shooting of George R. Tiller, one of the few doctors in the country to perform late-term abortions, took the witness stand in his own defense on Thursday, and said that, yes, he did it.

Yes, he bought a gun. Yes, he took target practice. Yes, he had learned about Dr. Tiller’s habits, his home address, his security precautions. And, yes, he shot Dr. Tiller last May 31 as Dr. Tiller stood inside his church.

Sounds like pre-meditation to me. Just sayin’.

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Hello Midori! How are you?

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Hi, Jen

just another day in LA LA Land here, I see….

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The gop are on the side of the banks.

I don’t think they want power back with that move.

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“Hi, Jen

just another day in LA LA Land here, I see….”

Oh yes, the LA LA’s are really out and about tonight. I heard straitjackets have been ordered for them but haven’t arrived yet.

This old gal is tired and going to bed.

Goodnight all.

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Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown under each of the last 12 Presidents, starting with Franklin Roosevelt. The difference is, the incomes of poor and middle class people have risen faster during Democratic administrations than under Republican ones. And in this last decade, incomes fell, and the stock market lost value, for the first time since the 1920’s.

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“Jen,

they were for being hypocritical banshees before they were against it….”

You nailed it.

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Wow, the perfect example of how childish liberals really are and why Bookman is a phony-

Among the many challenges our administration inherited was the slow but steady decline in support for our nuclear stockpile and infrastructure, and for our highly trained nuclear work force.-Hairplugs Biden, WSJ

Inherited, eh-

Defense-minded Democratic lawmakers in both chambers reacted cautiously to a new call from Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates for renewed support of the Reliable Replacement Warhead program, the Bush administration’s effort to replace the aging Cold War nuclear stockpile. Since assuming the majority in 2007, Democrats have consistently cut requested funding for the program and they remain skeptical about its wisdom as opposed to other initiatives to maintain existing nuclear stores.

Scuzzy, isn’t it?

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For Republicans who blame Democrats for the current deficit and national debt: The President proposes and signs the budget. Congress can recommend changes to the budget, but if the President dosen’t like it, he can veto it. And remember that Ronald Reagan had a Republican majority in the Senate for the first 6 years of his presidency, just as George W. Bush had a Republican majority in both houses of Congress for the first 6 years of his presidency.

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Yosarian

You may be right on that. I’ve always found that stories get skewed over time but if you can find it, there is usually a grain of truth in there somewhere. I always figured it was a nest of squirrels or a larger animal.

Speaking of trees, at Cumberland Gap National Park a few years back, they had a cross section of a Hemlock tree that had been cut in the last couple of years. They had little flag pins on the rings denoting a time line. The tree dated to the 1820’s. And in my part of the world, the local name for a Hemlock is Spruce Pine. So far the disease that’s hitting them hasn’t quite got to me yet but I’m sure it’s just a matter of time.

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I love them Hemlocks, Hillbilly ! How will the hills ever be the same without them. I’ve heard the disease has been found in the Chattahoochee
National Forest – where I’am, in N.GA.

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There used to be a famous Sycamore hollow tree in W.VA. that served as a home for three(3)settlers long ago. It died off in the 1820s but still sprouts from it’s roots & stump- to this day.

I’ve heard of two settlers who lived in a hollow tree in Greenbrier County, but not three. It’s all documented by my old undergraduate history professor, Dr. Otis Rice, in his History of Greenbrier County.Their names were Rupert and Sewell. There’s a town along Rt. 60 named for Rupert, and Sewell’s legacy is Big and Little Sewell mountains, the site of some pretty vicious Civil War fighting because they were the major roadblocks to Union troops’ crossing into the area. Robert E. Lee had to come to the area to settle a terrible dispute between two former Virginia governors who were major generals, Wise and Floyd. He finally sent Wise back to Richmond and left Floyd in command. There’s an old house, now an historic landmark, that served as Lee’s headquarters and later a hospital for the Confederates. If you’re friendly with the owner, you can see signatures on the interior plaster walls of wounded troops who stayed there, along with notations of the battles in which they were wounded.

More information than you probably want, but I grew up less than a mile from there.

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In the 20 year period from Fiscal Year 1961 (Dwight Eisenhower’s last budget) to FY 1981 (Jimmy Carter’s last budget) the national debt fell from 55.2% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) to 32.5% of GDP, a 23% decrease. This happened despite the fact that massive new social spending programs were enacted and others were expanded. During those 20 years, Democrats held majorities in both houses of Congress the entire time, and held the White House for 12 of 20 years.

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Yosarian

The Hemlocks will probably go the way of the Chestnuts. The disease is supposed to be into the Hemlocks just a few miles from here but we just have 3 or 4 and they are sort of isolated from any major stands, so hopefully they can be saved.

There are still a lot of Chestnuts in the mountains. The blight kills the tree but not the stump and roots, so they sprout back out. They’ll grow up 15 feet tall or so and then die. Chesnut makes pretty lumber, is soft and easy to work, and takes a very long time to rot. I can remember, when I was a boy, my Grandpa pointing out dead Chestnut trees that were still standing. He said they’d been dead 30-40 years.

According to things I’ve read and heard, when the settlers first came into the mountains about 90% of the trees were either Chestnut or Hemlock.

Curious Observer

For what it’s worth, I like to hear stories like that.

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yosarian @ 8:27

There were distinctions between Indian slavery and European slavery (just as there were between slavery in the French and Spanish colonial systems and the British). The most significant was that the Indians did not view the matter so much in terms of race, having the insitution at the time of the arrival of the white and black. Early on the “black” Indians in the Southeast were slave owners as well and their properties included Indian as well as African slaves. Though there are records of their owning European slaves, there was never a class as such, discretion and pragmatism being the greater part of valor. It is of note that among the free people of color in the ante bellum South, a high percentage were of mixed Indian-black and Indian-black-white stock.

As manumission became increasingly more restrictive under American law following the Haitian revolt and the British emancipation of 1833, being a slave under Indian law offered more the opportunity for manumission and an equal status within the nation once manumitted.

Though records are sparse, in those that I have seen (the Vanns being a good example) at their worst, the Indians were similar to the whites in their treatment of slave properties,

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yosarian—
that should be @ 9:27…

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Those interested in Indian things, slavery, the removals and what have you…check out the Priscilla Hollyhocks…I use it with my fourth graders…just google “Priscilla Hollyhocks…”

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Bill Clinton’s last budget (Fiscal Year 2001) contained a $128 billion budget surplus and a $5.7 trillion national debt, which was 57.4% of GDP, a 9% decrease from George H.W. Bush’s last budget. The surpluses under Clinton were enabled in part by the pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) law passed by a Democratic majority in Congress in 1990. PAYGO was passed in response to the spiraling budget deficits and national debt that were run up by Reagan and Bush Sr. A Republican majority in Congress allowed PAYGO to expire in 2002.

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With my last several posts, I hope that I’ve shown that it’s the Democrats who have been more fiscally responsible, and who’ve managed the economy better, over the last 50 years. The economy has grown faster, income growth has been more evenly distributed, more jobs have been created (10.5 million jobs were created during Jimmy Carter’s Presidency) and the national debt as a % of Gross Domestic Product has fallen when Democrats are in charge. All of these facts are available on the website of the Office of Management and Budget, http://www.omb.gov.

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yosarian

That you should mention wormy chestnut and how beautiful it is oiled…one of the family heirlooms is a set of bedroom furniture made from it…my niece has it and when she tells admirers it’s made from worm wood, they look at her like she’s pulling their leg…

Jay’s story of Jacob intrigued me, too and I promise you that further communication on all this is coming St. Elsewhere. It is interesting what you uncover when digging in the family bone orchard. Among mine is a landmark case in the race-slave matter which carries the family name. An ancestor in colonial Virginia was trying to “reclaim” a property who claimed she was free because she was white. The courts ruled in her behalf and he was not compensated for his “loss.”

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I hear you. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens.

P.S. and now we are all “slaves” of the government ……………………

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Yes, I am vacillating between apathy and indifference.

When that’s the case you can change it instantly by wagering on one of the teams.

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RW

The event that I am waiting for happens June 11 to July 11.

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Josef;

WoW !
just when it gets really interesting….
the ole finger begins to fail me….
these political posts are so tiring….
Look forward to seeing around….
By & By

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it’s a joy!

Yes, absolutely! I taught for 25 years in both catholic and public school. The greatest side benefit is that you feel like you’ve captured eternal youth in a bottle…until you look in the mirror! Doesn’t matter you are what you feel.

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josef:

serfs …………. serving Lord Obama of Babylon. ……… and cancel Christmas !

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P.S.

But alas ……… I know the last chapter ……….. )

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Question.

Does anyone know what kind of damage is done to a house when the copper is stolen out of it? Is there varying degrees of damage or do they just rip out all the wiring and copper tubing?

I have an opportunity to buy a house that has been hit. The price is incredible, but if it cost 50,000 to put the copper back in it, it’s not worth much.

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Me thinks that Reagan’s party did not control both houses of Congress with substantial majorities…..kind of hard to figure out how Republicans are obstructing the Democrats agenda. It appears Democrats do not want to go along with the suicide ride that BO wants to take the country on.

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DTS (NIF)

Replacing the copper isn’t your worst nightmare and might even be reasonably cheap. Your problem comes in with what the building codes make you do.

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There will be some lucky students learning tomorrow..enjoy.

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**Your problem comes in with what the building codes make you do.**

Yes, thats when its time to find a moonlighter, if they even exist anymore.

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NIF

Is the water heater in the basement?

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Kamchak is correct, if the drywall is ripped up could be a major project. The plumbing itself should not be anywhere near 50k.

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Would this property be for rental purposes?

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Drain The Swamp (NIF):

.45 caliber ! Now you’re talking. Developed specifically for the U.S. Army in 1911 to fight the Muslim terrorist Moro’s in the Philippines !

Ooo Rah !

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**’ve only seen pictures of the interior and the drywall is intact. Strangely enough, the carpet pad is in but no carpet. It looks like it was practically skinned.**

If there were animals in the house the padding will be no good. If you are going to keep as a rental I’ve learned to either tile it or put in wood flooring. Renters absolutely destroy carpeting unless you get very lucky. As far as the plumbing from what you’ve described, you could probably get it done for as low as 5k to a high of 10k depending on the fixtures you choose. A way to beat the code is to pull the permit as owner builder then you can sub out rather than hire a contractor. Hope that helps.

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Drain The Swamp (NIF):

Let’s hope so ………. but some dudes just have to learn the hard way ……………..

Taps everyone …………….

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Mick

It’s a brand new house, and I’ll fix it and flip it.

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In that case look for a good home inspector, for a $100 or so you can get a professional opinion and decide whether it will be worth your time and money. Good luck..time to hit the hay….

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NIF

Good luck.

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Let’s see:

* abuse of power auto industry takeover, investors left with nothing, unions given ownership
* anti- (issue): flag, family, child, jobs gay marriage….abortion…..cap-n-trade
* betray KSM & terrorists giving rights of U.S. citizens
* bizarre Gay Pride Parades
* bosses more Czars than pre-Stalin Russia
* bureaucracy more government – more government spending – more government control – more government in the way of the very people who could fix many of our problems
* cheat TurboTax Tim anyone???
* coercion Banks forced to take TARP money that they didn’t want
* “compassion” is not enough Hope never changed anything; Action does!
* collapse(ing) Over-Regulation….Over-Taxation…..
* consequences Like tax credits for “hiring” that causes companies to delay hiring until they can get the tax cuts….maybe the Unemployed can just wait for Big Government Bureaucracy to catch up
* corrupt Landreiu…..Nelson…..
* corruption Dodd….
* criminal rights Miranda for JihadBob Underpants
* crisis as in Rahm’s “Never let a good one go to waste…..”
* cynicism …as in recycling tired campaign promises that you’ve already broken number of times as if the American people haven’t been watching
* decay a direct result of Collectivist philosophies
* deeper as in Unemployment getting worse after billions wasted on Stima-Spendul-ous
* destroy …of incentive and motivation which is a direct result of Liberal policies
* destructive ….to culture and society
* devour earnings and wealth through confiscatory taxation
* disgrace I thought Bill Clinton was in Haiti
* endanger …freedom when Liberals attempt legislation that forces Americans to do what Liberals know best they should
* excuses Oh yeah, it’s still Bush’s fault!
* failure (fail) Something Liberals do but never get held accountable for by their willing accomplices in the collectivist media
* greed Franklin Raines did give back HIS bonuses that he made under Barney Frank & Chris Dodd’s political cover didnt he?
* hypocrisy …like “Congress should limit the influence of Lobbyists even though my administration is full of them!
* ideological Usually holding to political philosophies that are historical failures, but sound good and are effective at garnering power by using confiscated earnings to deliver unearned benefits
* impose Yeah, like we’re going to pass healthcare reform even if you don’t want it!
* incompetent insert picture of PrezBO here!

well that was fun, but I’m tired. In the end, it sounds as if Newt’s list is just as appropriate today as it was then!

-SD

Truth, History, and Common Sense Refute Liberalism

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When President Carter took office in 1977, The unemployment rate was 12% and interest rates was 13%. Nixon’s watergate problems, wage and price controls and Ford’s incompentence screwed up the economy. President Carter’s economic policies was just beginning to show positive results by the end of his term, But in 1980 the naive, gullible little big house middle classers listened to the Reagan lies about a 28 % federal income tax rate for everyone. That alzheimer afflicted braindead Reagan neglected to tell working class and middle class workers that their federal income tax rates at the time were between 18% and 22%. So the working class and middle class workers were hit with a massive tax increase, while the richest 20% of the population had their taxes reduced from a high of 71%, down to 28%. Reagan and Bush-1’s supply side, trickle down, voodoo economic produced a massive transfer of wealth from the pockets of the working class and middle class workers into the pockets of the rich and elite. These stupid little big house middle class Repuklicans haven’t figured these facts out yet. Lack of education produces insidious ignorance.

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The difference is that Reagan was talking about a variety of previous administrations. Obama went out of his way to pin all the problems on George Bush Jr. Barrack Obama goes on and on about his inherited problems and how they have forced his hand and created unprecedented debt. He seems to over look that Bush faced 9/11 and Al Qaeda (the problem that Clinton didn’t deal with), the dot.com meltdown and Katrina. Obama’s unwillingness to accept or his obsession with pathological deflection are unique among Presidents. He is a disgrace.

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Non rich big house middle classers who vote Republican are pathetic in their crude attempts to use reverse psychology and subliminal subjectivity on Democrats. They attempt to scape goat, blame and pro-ject their bleep ups, their incompetence, their shortcomings onto Democrats. The big house, middle classers expose the facts that thay’ve allowed the rich, elite people and their propaganda spewing, lap dog Republican politicians to hoodwink and bamboozle them. How so ??? By imploying the same reverse psychology and subliminal subjectivity against them. You mentally enslaved little big housers have a severe case of Willie Lynch Syndrome.

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How is somebody named Bookman so stupid?

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Odd Owl, you are a retard. Both parties contributed to this, and Obama will be seen as just as much of a failure.

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Forget that all my other attempts at forecasting and prediction haven’t occurred and are pretty much just me talking out my arse.

Just sayin’

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Just 10 more months until we can elect Republicans back into office!

No more Pay as You Go (Let the grand kids pay for it!)

Back to the days of irresponsibility (we can start more wars while cutting taxes at the same time, whooppeee!)

We can demand our president and federal government do something to fix the economy and, out the other side of our mouths, decry the size of big guvmint! Oh joy!

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Finn McCool –

So let me get this straight. Days of Democratic rule are “days of responsibility”? LOL

I hope that Democrat political hacks are as ignorant to reality as you. Judging from the comments bleating from the left these days, it appears that my hopes are being realized.

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The difference is Ronald Reagan talked about the issues and how the past had impacted the budget, the peoples’ trust in their government, etc. Obama cannot seem to help himself, it is all about I, I, I.

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“People living in trailers and voting Republican are confused.”

Rather that than living in the ghetto, drinkin malt licka and voting for obama.

We will see if Obama can turn things around but I seriously doubt. After all Obama is no Reagan.

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“Odd owl is spot on. People living in trailers and voting Republican are confused. Why not just write checks directly to the richest person you can find on the street…cut out the middle men??”

Live poor, vote rich.

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Also, Barack, some sexually insecure wingnuts are afraid of your wife.

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“But remember–don’t say a word about it, ever, because it’s bad form and upsets Dennis Miller.”

Too funny! Dennis Miller should go hunting with Dick Cheeeeeney.

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“Also, Barack, some sexually insecure wingnuts are afraid of your wife.”

I should buy stock in the screen cleaner company!

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“Also, Barack, some sexually insecure wingnuts are afraid of your wife.”

Why bring Michelle into this. Her new hair style has her looking pretty, hot and tasty!! I’d give it a go with her!!

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pretty, hot and tasty!! I’d give it a go with her!!

Well, Outhouse, I knew we’d find common ground somewhere.

(usual disclaimers about how this is purely theoretical, Mrs. sfd is the love of my life, un so weiter…)

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LOL sfd!

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You’d have to be a weirdo to not be afraid of Idi Amin Obozo as fugly as she is, just sayin….

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No, leave out the tax tax tax, it was just SPEND SPEND SPEND

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Well, let me see, our friend-o Jay finds a way to blame BOTH Bush & Reagan. Have we learned anything new today class? No.

People in power blame those who used to be in power.

People not in power blame those who are in power.

A storyline as old as the Old Testament, or, for my Jewish friends, the “real” Bible.

What began in the tents of Abraham will continue until Jesus comes again, or, for my Jewish friends, “this should keep happening? And why do I say it should keep happening, you ask?”

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Yet another example of why the AJC is dying. The more interesting and informative opinion piece would have been an examination of the veracity of Obama’s continued attack on his predecessor. Bookman’s casual dismissal of “the conservatives” belies the depth of his argument, mimicking the president himself. I am no conservative, but the politics of negativity perpetuated by the Chicago school of politics currently informing the administration is both tired and ineffective. Whether in 2012 or 2016, Obama’s successor will surely inherit an office and global status significantly weakened by his own actions.

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Josef; loved your 10:54PM(reference French premier Georges Clemenceau). That man had the kind of guts not seen in high office here since Harry Ttruman(IMHO). His first speech to French parliament in 1917: “My formula is the same in every respect. Domestic policy: I wage war. Foreign policy: I wage war. War, always war, nothing but war”.
I think Clemenceau & Marshal Foch are the primary reasons for the Allied victory in the Great War.

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I just love the way we’re all supposed to go along with this collective amnesia that the GOP wants us to have. Wait … okay, the spores are taking effect now. 2001-2008 didn’t happen … at least nothing bad that I can remember, except that pesky 9/11 thing … I long for those days of congress doing nothing … of a President perpetually on vacation clearing brush in central Texas … that’s it … from now on I’m only going to vote for real politicians … those that want to do nothing … until they retire with a lifetime pension we’ll have to pay them regardless of what they didn’t do … I’m tired of America being hated by terrorists … I’m voting GOP from now on … if my country’s gonna disappear from existence I’d rather it be at the hands of the Do-Nothing Party of No(Tea Party, GOP) than some renegade terrorist trying to curry favor from bin Laden.

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Barry said it was 1 trillion, not 460 billion (more than twice the actual amount). He just can’t bring himself to speaking the truth, must be a liberal thing.

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Another day of Jay putting out an article to get the “party baiting” going full stream. The one thing we can all agree upon is that both parties have done a disastrous job of managing the trillions of dollars entrusted to them. It is my opinion that the great RR will not be viewed so well in history books 100 years from now. There were some very well done things during his administration but the fall of communism came at the cost of us outspending them. This was the beginning of Washington believing it can spend whatever it wants with no consequences. Bush 1 will be recognized for doing the right thing by raising taxes to pay for the Government excess and in turn losing a chance at a second term because of it. Give the old man credit, this is what began the glory years of Clinton, not anything Clinton did. And Saint Clinton won’t fare so well either, yes the country ran pretty well for 7 of his eight years, but at some point in history he will be held accountable for his perjury. Most D’s believe the R’s hate Clinton, I could care less if he has sex with unattractive women, that is his and Hillary’s problem. I have a problem with the POTUS commiting perjury and getting away with it, regardless of party. Bush 2 did some pretty good things but lost his way when it came to the checkbook. And to finish my thoughts for the day I just have to add to the “party baiting” a little….Bush’s two biggest budgets were enacted under complete control of both houses by the Democrats. And according to our constitution it is the house who enacts budgets, not the President. Four biggest budgets ever, all Democrats.

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Ref: Hmmmmmmm

No, I was definitely tuned into the State of the Union address. Perhaps your hearing aid wasn’t working.

All you have to do is pick up the paper, listen to the radio or watch television to see a variety of economists who say that without the Stimulus things would be much worse. Even if you discount all of the rest of the stimulus, the effect on the states has been a lifeline. States, like Georgia, would have laid off more teachers, firemen, policemen. That is a fact. States are terrified of what they are going to do when the money runs out at the end of 2010. You seem to think that throwing more people out of work would have helped the economy?

You can argue all you want about whether some other form of stimulus would have been better but I think you will find it hard to argue that the form it took hasn’t had some beneficial effect such as bringing states back from the brink.

Since states cannot run deficits I am curious what the wizards under the Gold Dome will do other than cut, cut, cut services. That is their answer to everything and see where that has gotten our state.

No one disagrees

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The financial crisis was caused by the Bush admin and the gop. Its a fact. Why pretend it isn’t true. McCain can bite me.

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Jay Leno’s old joke re: “blame Bush” is that the Democrats liked to refer to him as “stupid, “an idiot,” etc., but whined, “He tricked us” when asked why they voted to go to War with Iraq. Human beings are so amusing!

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Trudy, you are the sheep being led to the slaughter.

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obozo is an idiot mobster from Chitown with NO idea on how to govern. peonlosi is an idiot with lots of ideas on how to “rule” her subjects. reid is an idiot who doesn’t have a clue. they all need to go and go now. blaming everyone else is the only way they can save face with the idiots who elected them. impeachment is in the shadows….

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Exactly Morrus…. This is the only way!

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Jay, we’re not saying it’s not true…We’re just tired of hearing it. Instead of REPEATELEY blaming Bush….How bout doing something about it instead of making excuses why YOU are destoying this country…News Flash….FACT:…Obama’s new borrowing of 1.9 TRILLION dollars is more than George Washington all the way to Ronald Reagan combined!!!!

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Our Economy has always run in cycles, some good, some bad. The election of a particular President or Party is determined by where we are in the cycle. OB got in because the country was at the bottom of the cycle during a Republican admin. The Dems are going to get hammered this fall because the they have not done enough to get out from the bottom of the cycle. My guess is we will see improvement by the first part of 2011 and be on a pretty good track by the end of 2011. This means by election time in 2012 OB will claim all his policies worked and he is well positioned for re-election. The only good part is congress may be controlled by the R’s while the White House by the D’s, generally a very good combination for the economy. The thought of OB as a second termer does nothing for me but I wouldn’t bet against it based on history.

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Not to mention that 3-1/2 years after Reagan became president, officials in the Reagan administration blamed the previous president for the 250 marines killed at the Beirut airport.

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I read with interest in the paper now Obama is sitting in the broadcast booth at a basketball game. When the heck is he going to be the President. Dating in New York at taxpayer expense, doing late night talk shows….come on. The guy is still in campain mode. Hes not a president and he has no experience to be such. They vote to run money just so they can spend more of it. We will bear a huge disaster if this is allowed to continue. Blame Bush……I just dont think Bush did this. This is all the Obama, Pesloi, Harry Reid spending spree. Only three people to blame and a heck of a lot of democratic voting help. Republicans are the party of NO…..Well thank heavens for the NO votes. At least we know the republicans arent blaming Bush for this crazy out of control spending.

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