Tebow anti-abortion ad in the Super Bowl just free speech
I admire Florida football star Tim Tebow, both for what he does on the field and for who he is off the field. By all accounts he tries to live his Christian faith, and I’ve never been bothered by his efforts to proselytize. Even in the Biblical citations he wears in his eyeblack, he shows the good manners to proclaim his faith quietly without questioning or condemning that of others. OK by me.
Tebow is now the focus of a bit of controversy involving an anti-abortion ad in which he stars with his mother. The ad, sponsored by James Dobson’s Focus on the Family, will air during the Super Bowl, and some pro-choice groups are protesting the ad’s acceptance by CBS. They do have a point.
As the Washington Post reports, the Women’s Media Center and other groups “questioned how and why the network, which used to forbid ‘advocacy’ advertising, agreed to air Focus on the Family’s spot, which is valued at $2.5 million to $3 million.”
“The media center also noted that as recently as 2004, CBS had rejected an ad from the United Church of Christ, which wanted to use the Super Bowl as a chance to tell people it welcomes gay members. The center says CBS also has rejected ads in the past from MoveOn.org and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.”
The question of fairness is legitimate, but if this is really a new policy at CBS that will be extended to other causes as well, liberal and conservative, fine. The previous policy — designed not to offend anybody — never really made sense anyway, not in an advertising culture where discussion of four-hour erections and urinary problems have become standard.
And if Tebow wants to use his hard-earned fame to promote causes that he believes in, fine as well. I just hope he picks his spots carefully and stays wary about how others want to use him.
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thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:19 pm
Doggone, do you believe in forced child support?
If so why? Its the man’s body who has to perform the work to recieve the money.
His body his choice.
Doggone/GA
January 27th, 2010
12:20 pm
“Doggone, do you believe in forced child support?”
Yes, because he has a human responsibility to support the children he helps create. Again, if he wanted a say in the disposition of the prenancy, he should be more careful about his partner. But that does not absolve him from ALL responsibilty for the resulting child.
Which is, BTW, a social obligation…not a biological one.
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:21 pm
Amvet,
If that is the only accepted version of murder then why was Scott Pederson charged with murder of an unborn child?
Georgia Dawg
January 27th, 2010
12:21 pm
Finally I agree with you, never thought I would but Jay, you got it right this time.
Hef
January 27th, 2010
12:21 pm
I don’t have a problem with a legal advertisement.The way I see it,I can always change the channell.
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
12:21 pm
“Didn’t she give up part of that right when she voluntarily gave her body to the man as he volutarily gave his sperm to her?”
Please refer to Internal Revenue Code: Chapter 12–Gift Tax Code §2500 and file Form 709 with your 2009 Federal Income Tax Forms.
AmVet
January 27th, 2010
12:21 pm
thomas, how does you example countermand that definition?
AmVet
January 27th, 2010
12:22 pm
your
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
12:22 pm
I’m off to catch the 5:45 … have a good night, all!!!
getalife
January 27th, 2010
12:24 pm
Get your politics out of my football.
Don’t ruin the game with your ideology.
Who do you think you are?
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
12:24 pm
USinUK,
Au revoir.
pat
January 27th, 2010
12:26 pm
“Muder – noun
1. The killing of another human being UNDER CONDITIONS SPECIFICALLY COVERED IN LAW. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder). ”
Oh really? So abortions are not premeditated? What are they accidental…
Riddle me this geniuses, why is Scott Petterson in prison for TWO murders when one of them was his UNBORN son? Seems under the law, a fetus is a human after all.
stands for decibels
January 27th, 2010
12:27 pm
I guess there’s near-unanimity on Jay’s actual topic; CBS should be free to broadcast this commercial.
FrankLeeDarling
January 27th, 2010
12:29 pm
almond and peaches? my guy told me it was blueberry.
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
12:29 pm
Little Barry…LMAO. Perhaps they could mail it COD to Barry and he could place it on the whitehouse lawn.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/26/indonesian-officials-consider-tearing-obama-statue/
Indonesian Officials Consider Tearing Down Obama Statue
stands for decibels
January 27th, 2010
12:29 pm
So let’s play what if.
What if Fat Tony gets four other Supremes to overturn Roe, and you live in one of those states that re-criminalizes first trimester abortion.
What kind of penalties did you have in mind for docs and patients who conspire to commit embryocide? If you really feel this is murder, it’s gotta be at least 25-to-life, right? You gonna throw in a death penalty for mass embryocide?
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
12:30 pm
“CBS should be free to broadcast this commercial.”
And if it does…it needs to accept all social commentary advertising from any position in the future during the Super Bowl.
stands for decibels
January 27th, 2010
12:30 pm
it needs to accept all social commentary advertising from any position in the future during the Super Bowl.
Works for me. And maybe they should have to publicly apologize for screwing over the United Church of Christ in 2004, but I’m being a bit greedy, here.
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:30 pm
OK,
Doggone, you have to respect you for picking a side. I see it as a lil double standard as you give responsibility to the father and absolve all from the mother.
That does not seem fair or just but that is your opinion.
Do you think men should be allowed to force women to have abortions?
BTW I have no problem with rape abortions, my main concern is the women who use the process as a form of birth control. Which is how abortion is used more than for health concerns or for rape victims.
Amvet,
It goes against your definition because they are charging a man with the murder of a fetus, and according to your definition a fetus is not alive. So how does one kill something that is not alive?
Jake
January 27th, 2010
12:31 pm
pat – California statute specifically addressing the murder of pregnant women, intended more as protection for pregnant women than fetuses. Of course you already pointed out it is “killing a human being under conditions specified by law”. Law dos not specifiy aborting a fetus up to six months as murdering a human being.
getalife
January 27th, 2010
12:33 pm
“Breitbart: I Pay A Salary To Man Charged In Landrieu Plot”
D’oh!
Swede Atlanta
January 27th, 2010
12:33 pm
Pat @ 12:15
I am gay and I am concerned for human life. So please don’t generalize.
My view on abortion is, if I was hypothetically involved in fathering a child, I would do everything reasonable I could to see the baby come to term including putting the child up for adoption if that was the right thing to do. I don’t know, for myself, whether I believe life happens at conception, at birth or somewhere along the journey. But I would want to encourage the birth of that child.
That said, I believe that the decision regarding carrying the baby to term needs to be left to the father and the mother. And, as per my previous post, if the father and mother cannot decide, I think I have to side with the mother.
I don’t think that my interest in human life can or should be used to prevent the father and mother from making that decision.
What I think I can do is to support programs to avoid unwanted pregnancy through age-appropriate reproductive (as opposed to sex) education, reasonable access to birth control (teenagers are going to have sex whether the abstinence-believers want to wish it away or not) family planning (planning and having the baby at the right time for the father and mother), etc.
Life goes way beyond the birth canal. I am often appalled at some, not all, “lifers” who stop at birth. Life goes is more than bringing the baby to term…………..It goes from adequate pre-natal care to a solid education to health care. It includes asking whether society should kill for the sake of showing that killing is wrong. It includes questioning when we kill innocent civilians abroad.
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
12:34 pm
“So let’s play what if.”
What if the fetus say the scalpel coming and grabbed onto the umbilical cord…leapt out of the uterus brandishing the mothers kidneys as nun chucks incapacitating the doctor while taking the nurse present hostage? Would they send in Chuck Norris or Samuel Jackson?
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:34 pm
gotta be samuel.
He deals better with weird stuff. Chuck fights people and fetus ain’t people.
Plus samuel would have very colourful language for that case.
RW-(the original)
January 27th, 2010
12:34 pm
<a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjUwNmUwMzBmNWQ0MmY1MWVkNzVmYmM1MDUwYzkyZWM="Teleprompter Shot of the Day
For a committee meeting no less. Is the Aussie open going to be on at 9 tonight? I think I’ll go split screen and pretend Obama is sitting at center court following the action.
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
12:35 pm
stands for decibels,
“And maybe they should have to publicly apologize for screwing over the United Church of Christ in 2004, but I’m being a bit greedy, here”
Greed is Good.
Paul
January 27th, 2010
12:35 pm
“U.S. lawmakers turn up heat on Geithner over AIG”
Just another example of how Democrats are in bed with big business –
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2718025520100127
@@
January 27th, 2010
12:36 pm
Paul:
A narcissist can find no fault in anything he does or says. They’re too self-absorbed to care.
You should drop in over at Kyle’s. He’s got a thread up “One way 2010 is different from 1994″. It provides a link to The Tea Party’s “Contract FROM America”
My point of interest comes in at #2 — Legislation shall contain no unrelated amendments.
Talk about transparency! I also like the idea of making ‘em work overtime to achieve what they want. No recesses…no passing hidden pork and then jetting off. Some of your favorites on there too.
Kyle’s a good columnist. He offers solutions and the opportunity to discuss ‘em. Some of the solutions he offers are of his own making. My attempts at posting over there are hit and miss for some reason. Frustrating!
Bosch
January 27th, 2010
12:37 pm
jewcowboy @ 12:34 –
[Spray, spray, spray.....wipe, [squeak], wipe, [squeak], wipe, wipe, wipe…..spray, spray, spray, wipe, wipe – throw towel away]
Okay.
Now, that would be a site to behold. But, I have to go with Chuck on that one.
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:37 pm
CBS is a private owned business they should be allowed to accept money from whom ever they choose.
They should also be preparred to face any critics and expect them.
Doggone/GA
January 27th, 2010
12:38 pm
” see it as a lil double standard as you give responsibility to the father and absolve all from the mother.”
I never absolved the woman from responsibility…her responsibility is built in. Once she chooses to keep the pregnancy, then the responsibility is ALL hers.
“Do you think men should be allowed to force women to have abortions?”
No
“BTW I have no problem with rape abortions,”
If you are willing to allow any excptions, then like it or not, you are pro-choice.
” my main concern is the women who use the process as a form of birth control. Which is how abortion is used more than for health concerns or for rape victims.”
So what is your alternative? To enslave the woman to YOUR standards and FORCE her to carry her prenancy to term? Or it is just about being able to punish her? If you aren’t willing to force her to carry the pregnancy, then you are PRO-CHOICE, but you want the “pleasure” of ensuring she is punished for making a choice YOU don’t like.
RW-(the original)
January 27th, 2010
12:39 pm
I guess if you do that 12:34 link right the blog gods eat it.
Same picture, different source
AmVet
January 27th, 2010
12:39 pm
Riddle me this back Alan Dershowitz, read that which is capitalized if you can.
That you have little if any regard for, or understanding of, standard written English or, of much more grave importance, the law itself, is of no concern to me.
Perhaps you remember this little uncomfortable phrase, we are “A government of laws, not of men.” ~John Adams
Heed well, those who would play games with jurisprudence to serve your own purposes…
http://agonist.org/sean_paul_kelley/20100125/a_nation_of_laws_not_men
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
12:40 pm
“Plus samuel would have very colourful language for that case.”
I’m tired of these motherf***ing fetuses in this motherf***ing clinic thinking they can just take over any motherf***ing time!
RW-(the original)
January 27th, 2010
12:42 pm
sfb,
CBS says their new policy would allow the UCC ad.
FrankLeeDarling
January 27th, 2010
12:43 pm
CBS may be a private company but the airwaves they broadcast on are publicly owned
bob
January 27th, 2010
12:44 pm
the tebow ad is pro choice you idiots. it touts the choice his mother made!
pat
January 27th, 2010
12:44 pm
Jake, the baby was unborn, he was convicted of murder for it’s death, period.
If he had driven her to an abortion clinic, killed the child there and then murdered her he would have had a single count.
He killed the mother and the child and was convicted for both as murder. You cannot be convicted of murder for anything other than killing a person, period, the end of the story… He isn’t the on;y one, there is a guy in Texas who did the same thing, and and got convicted of murder on the fetus and the mother.
Bottom, line either these convictions should be over turned, or abortion is murder. The law protects the unborn as people everywhere save for an abortion clinic….This is not difficult to figure out. The fetus doesn’t cease being human when you walk through the door of an abortion clinic…
I am sorry some people get themselves in jams due to irresponsible sex, but once a life begins, they have no right to take it.
Swede Atlanta
January 27th, 2010
12:44 pm
Ref: Thomas @ 12:37
Yes they are a private company. However, they have been granted an operating license and use of limited public airwaves by us.
So while I am not in favor of over-regulation, companies that are given license use the “PUBLIC” airwaves must take into consideration the effects of their actions. Yes their advertisers pay the freight but it is we the people who give them license and access to our airwaves.
So my view is that, especially in areas that are known to be controversial, CBS needs to think very carefully about its decisions. A safer policy in my view would be not to open themselves up to this debate. But since they have they owe the tax-paying citizens who have given them this license equal access to the airwaves.
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:45 pm
Doggone,
Why ask rhetorical questions and answer them on a blog?
My idea is not to enslave the woman, but it appears yours is to enslave the woman. Not trying to punish anyone either. Just worried about the amount of Nobel Prize winners, or cancer cures, aids cures, hunger cures we have aborted all in the name of a good party.
Which like it or not I have witnessed it far too often on college campuses used as a late version of birth control.
I just feel you are wrong for claiming men should be careful of their actions and accept responsibility and PUNISH him for an unwanted pregnancy. But you feel women do not need to have those same concerns, because they have a built in safety net.
That is all you are saying, that women can live carefree and have options, but men cannot.
Plain and simple.
Jake
January 27th, 2010
12:45 pm
The human race, consciously or unconsciously, is realizing overpopulation has now become more of a threat to out survival than low birth rates. The more civilized and better educated cultures perceive this more clearly and have responded in a variety of ways, attempt to control population in China, less marriage and lower birth rates in Europe and US, more legalized abortions, etc. The quantity of human life on the planet has alrady adversely effected the quality. If the trend continues it will greatly diminish the quality of life for almost all of us. Eventually, nature will correct the imbalance and we will either all consciously recognize the value in limiting the population or we will resolve it with a Book of Eli scenario.
Granny Godzilla
January 27th, 2010
12:45 pm
thomas you are the ungrateful type….
you wanted to know about “uproar” and I helped you out
not so much as a thank you
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:45 pm
Swede Atlanta
January 27th, 2010
12:44 pm
So then you feel every station that has condom ads should have abstinece ads as well.
You know how to stop them, don’t watch the shows they air on.
But lets see how many people boycott watching the superbowl to prove their point.
Guess they truely don’t care for their cause. Not willing to sacrafice.
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:46 pm
Granny,
Sorry, not ungrateful…..forgetful.
Its 2 different things.
But thank you
btrask3
January 27th, 2010
12:48 pm
Since our government has condoned and encouraged the genocide of over 40,000,000 babies since Roe v Wade. And Planned Parenthood (an abortion business) has consistently filled the air with misinformation, (like, your not killing a baby your only removing a zygote, or we care about a women’s “right” to choose to abort her baby.)
This commercial provides some balance to the debate. We all can see that Tebow was a zygote as the miracle of birth began, and we all know that he grew for nine months in his mothers womb. And even though some Doctors and Nurses thought abortion (killing Tebow) was a preferred option… his mother could not bare the thought of killing her baby. And it is because of her moral courage that her son Tebow lived to became what he is today.
Just think of each of the 40,000,000 children that our government has had a hand in murdering. I wonder what value each one of their lives would have had, if they were allowed to live? At least most would be productive Tax Payers and our country wouldn’t have to import undocumented immigrants to fill jobs.
Everyone (even the doctors and nurses that kill the babies) know that it is wrong… there is not one valid excuse for this atrocious behavior. I send Tebow and his mom, many, many, thanks… for having the courage to use Tebow’s example to balance the propaganda of the misguided RIGHT TO CHOOSE movement.
stands for decibels
January 27th, 2010
12:48 pm
CBS says their new policy would allow the UCC ad.
didn’t know that, thanks–guess it’s as close to “sorry!” as I’ll get from them.
AmVet
January 27th, 2010
12:48 pm
“Amvet, It goes against your definition…yada, yada, yada…”
Pure sophomoric rubbish, thomas.
You fail to grasp what any eight grader could easily.
IT IS NOT MY DEFINITION.
It is THE definition. So take it up with the lexicographers, not me.
As I said countless people, including most ideologues I’ve encountered, are not remotely concerned with the laws of language or of jurisprudence itself.
Bosch
January 27th, 2010
12:49 pm
thomas,
“Why ask rhetorical questions and answer them on a blog?”
You might ask yourself the same thing:
“Just worried about the amount of Nobel Prize winners, or cancer cures, aids cures, hunger cures we have aborted all in the name of a good party.”
RW-(the original)
January 27th, 2010
12:50 pm
sfb,
If their policy in 2004 would have rejected both ads and their 2010 policy would accept both ads they have nothing to apologize for.
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:50 pm
Jake,
so you are in favor of the way China controls population. Quite sick to tell people this is how many kids you can have.
But hey if thats what you want go for it, just don’t be surprised when people start killing their daughters to preserve the family name.
AmVet
January 27th, 2010
12:51 pm
“CBS may be a private company but the airwaves they broadcast on are publicly owned.”
Damn staright, frank.
And the communists like Rush et al don’t even pay rent to the rightful owners – we the people – for the use thereof …
stands for decibels
January 27th, 2010
12:51 pm
And Planned Parenthood (an abortion business)
No, actually it is a non profit, and contributions to it are tax-deductible.
https://secure.ga0.org/02/pp2009
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
12:53 pm
“So then you feel every station that has condom”
Condom ads will do no good…just look at Haiti and Africa.
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:53 pm
Sorry AmVet,
If the definition you used as an example is true then why and how is it possible to have a law that states murdering of an UNBORN child?
Seems to contradict your definition.
May I ask why you feel the need to insult people who have not done so to you?
Are you angry, bitter, depressed? Why such hostility.
Post traumatic stress?
There are people and medication that can assist you.
Swede Atlanta
January 27th, 2010
12:53 pm
Ref: Thomas @ 12:45
In theory, yes. Obviously one is selling a product, the other an idea. I don’t know how effective ads are on selling ideas that are unrelated to consumption.
That said, aside from the fact that we all see ads in our homes that we find inappropriate (viagra, Rx ads that rather than make me want to take them scare me to death given the side effects, etc.), I don’t think the idea of advertising condoms is as controversial as the issue of abortion.
And let’s face it the SuperBowl isn’t exactly like your average soap opera, drama or comedy show. It is one of the most watched events in the world.
dougmo2
January 27th, 2010
12:53 pm
It truely amazes me that most of the women who are pro choice are the ones men really would not like to have sex with anyway.
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
12:54 pm
“It truely amazes me that most of the women who are pro choice are the ones men really would not like to have sex with anyway.”
LOL…best to have sex with their mothers…
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:54 pm
Funny Rush doesn’t pay taxes Amvet?
Really do you have any proof of that, or is it more of your normal slander?
His taxes are his paying for the right.
Mr Right
January 27th, 2010
12:55 pm
The thing about it is, this ad is about doing the right thing not the wrong thing like taking a life!
Jake
January 27th, 2010
12:55 pm
pat – Due to public pressure after the Keeler case California law was amended to say murder could only apply to a fetus after seven weeks. Not only is that California law, but it does not define aborting that same fetus as murder. My belief is that the rights of the living mother should have precedence over the rights of the unborn fetus, a position the supreme court agreed with by a 7-2 margin, and that our society as a whole is better off without all those unwanted children.
Whacks Eloquent
January 27th, 2010
12:57 pm
If CBS has changed their policy and says it UCC ad would be fine, I have no problem with their showing it. So long as the UCC pays for the ad time like everyone else…
Sick&Tired
January 27th, 2010
12:57 pm
dougmo2
January 27th, 2010
12:53 pm
It truely amazes me that most of the women who are pro choice are the ones men really would not like to have sex with anyway.
If that statement were true – the percentage of abortions would be down and practically non-existent. It’s obvious that men don’t care who they sleep with or who is going to be the mother of their children.
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
12:57 pm
We all would appreciate CBS running commericals/ads of opening and closing times for Atlanta Metro Adult Entertainment industry.
FrankLeeDarling
January 27th, 2010
12:57 pm
Amvet I would love to see those guys be made to balance their act.
or better yet be held accountable for vandalizing public property.
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:57 pm
Jake,
maybe we would be better off had they not been aborted.
Seems cancer still has no cure, hunger still ravages the world, aids still kills.
Who knows maybe one of the aborted could have found a cure?
thomas
January 27th, 2010
12:59 pm
Swede,
Condoms are very controversial to many catholics, who are oppossed to any form of contraception.
Do their feelings not matter?
Bosch
January 27th, 2010
1:00 pm
thomas,
Conjecture much?
AmVet
January 27th, 2010
1:01 pm
Sorry thomas. Mea culpa.
“If the definition you used as an example is true..”
IF it is true???
It is true.
You parse but will not countermand the experts who define these words. So you question me instead.
You parse but will not countermand the experts who make the laws. So you question me instead.
Unaccusingly, I’d say this a fool’s errand, wouldn’t you?
Abortion is not murder. Not in America. Not in 2010.
Quit trying to shoot the messenger…
Jake
January 27th, 2010
1:02 pm
thomas – China’s plan is an obvious failure, the populations gone from 1B to 1.2B while it’s been in place. And I said nothing about supporting it. I prefer intelligent people make conscious decisions to improve the QUALITY of everyone’s life rather than breed to the point of war, pestilence, and starvation.
getalife
January 27th, 2010
1:03 pm
#
“Obama to push Hill on foreign cash
By KENNETH P. VOGEL | 1/27/10 8:52 AM
He’ll use his SOTU speech to ask lawmakers to curb campaign donations from abroad.”
Does anybody else see something wrong with this insanity?
Pro Choice
January 27th, 2010
1:03 pm
Cowboy,
Wrong side of history eh? I think not….can’t recall being castigated for the choice I have made? Yourself?
FrankLeeDarling
January 27th, 2010
1:05 pm
thats not how it works thomas rush’s taxes in no way give him the right to be on the air the FCC license that wabe owns does.
stands for decibels
January 27th, 2010
1:06 pm
So… anyone? appropriate jail time for embryocide?
Since some of you seem to feel so strongly about it, I figured you’d have thought this out a little bit. No?
Doggone/GA
January 27th, 2010
1:06 pm
“My idea is not to enslave the woman, but it appears yours is to enslave the woman.”
How do you work that one out? That’s some convoluted thinking. I leave the choice up to her and I’m ENSLAVING her? I don’t think so.
” Not trying to punish anyone either. Just worried about the amount of Nobel Prize winners, or cancer cures, aids cures, hunger cures we have aborted all in the name of a good party.”
Then give us YOUR workable alternative. What is YOUR decision for a woman who chooses not to continue her pregnancy?
“Which like it or not I have witnessed it far too often on college campuses used as a late version of birth control.”
But that is not your problem. It’s the woman’s body, it’s her decision.
“I just feel you are wrong for claiming men should be careful of their actions and accept responsibility and PUNISH him for an unwanted pregnancy.”
I said it was a social responsibility, not a biological one. It would be perfectly possible to have a society dedicated to the proper raising and nurturing of children at the public expense, and then men could have all the fun they like, father all the children they like, and their responsibility to those children would be the same as everyone elses: they would contribute, via taxes, to the support of those children.
But that is not how OUR society is structured, and if the father wants the fun of creating a child…then he should be prepared for the responsibility of raising it also, even if the only responsibility he accepts is to provide the funds needed.
“But you feel women do not need to have those same concerns, because they have a built in safety net.”
Well, if the woman chooses to end the pregnancy…then that also ends the man’s responsibility.
That is all you are saying, that women can live carefree and have options, but men cannot.
Plain and simple
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
1:07 pm
well…maybe condom ads like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbHLqwl7_lQ
As a matter of fact that is one of the most effective ads I’ve seen for anything.
Pro Choice
January 27th, 2010
1:07 pm
Jake,
You must be omnipotent…..please decide for us who is intelligent and can improve others quality of life. Maybe we could have you run for public office on the promise to sterilize all unwanted people and mentally unstable. I think they had a particular party in Germany at one point that would support that view for you.
Jefferson
January 27th, 2010
1:07 pm
When it was against the law, it didn’t stop. Those with money just went out of country, those without went to backrooms and alleys. A person can only worry so much about what they cannot control, that’s what we have courts for. What’s right for me, might not be right for you.
AmVet
January 27th, 2010
1:08 pm
Frank, vandalism! Too funny.
But I’m no adherent of fair and balanced/equal time proposals.
I advocate that the sovereign people’s assets be used for the benefit of the sovereign people. And that those who use them be made to finally pay for their free rides.
thomas, slander? A strong word. To which I say, physician heal thyself.
Paying taxes and paying rent are not synonymous…
Apologies gladly accepted…
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
1:09 pm
“Do their feelings not matter?”
Yep.
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
1:10 pm
Pro choice,
“I think not….can’t recall being castigated for the choice I have made?”
Just because you don’t listen doesn’t mean people aren’t snickering at you.
Disgusted
January 27th, 2010
1:11 pm
From Daily Kos:
O’Keefe was supposed to be the keynote speaker at a Salt Lake County GOP fundraiser on Feb. 4. But county GOP Chairman Thomas Wright told the Salt Lake Tribune: “We’ll be announcing a new speaker shortly.” … Rep. Pete Olson, R-Tex., is on the defense for introducing a resolution honoring O’Keefe for exposing ACORN. He told the Hill that he doesn’t condone unlawful behavior … There were 31 cosponsors on that resolution, so you can expect Democratic challengers to use that resolution against their GOP opponents in this fall’s midterm elections.
Via Media Matters, the 31 sponsors of the resolution which declared that accused felon James O’Keefe was “owed a debt of gratitude by the people of the United States” are all Republicans and, oddly, over a quarter of them serve districts in Texas: Todd Akin (R-MO2), Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD6), Joe Barton (R-TX6), Rob Bishop (R-UT1), Jo Bonner (R-AL1), John Boozman (R-AR3), Paul Broun (R-GA10), Henry Brown (R-SC1), John Campbell (R-CA48), John Carter (R-TX31), Howard Coble (R-NC6), Tom Cole (R-OK4), Michael Conaway (R-TX11), John Culberson (R-TX7), Mary Fallin (R-OK5), Trent Franks (R-AZ2), Louis Gohmert (R-TX1), Kay Granger (R-TX12), Ralph Hall (R-TX4), Jim Jordan (R-OH4), Steve King (R-IA5), John Kline (R-MN2), Doug Lamborn (R-CO5), Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-MO9), Daniel Lungren (R-CA3), Kenny Marchant (R-TX24), Joseph Pitts (R-PA16), Bill Posey (R-FL15), Phil Roe (R-TN1), John Shadegg (R-AZ3), and of course Jean Schmidt (R-OH2).
So you see, Paul is a liberal in comparison to most elected officials from Texas.
Swede Atlanta
January 27th, 2010
1:11 pm
Ref: Thomas @ 12:59
No doubt condoms are controversial to some Catholics. Interesting that most polls (if you believe polls) show that the majority of Catholic-Americans use birth control in some form.
You are never going to please everyone all of the time.
The issue with the SuperBowl is:
1. It is one of, if not the largest, viewing audience
2. Life vs. Choice is controversial across the spectrum, i.e. most people have a strong view on this
3. SuperBowl is supposed to a chance for Americans to gather to root for their team, eat, drink and be merry. Introducing a highly controversial issue, evidenced by our debate here, raises the question of whether it is appropriate.
I am fine with this ad as long as the policy now opens up access to ads by those that take the opposite view or that want to promote opinions on other controversial topics.
Jake
January 27th, 2010
1:12 pm
thomas – what if’s aren’t much of an argument, what if one of the aborted would have become a bigger, better OBL or Hitler? Your view is fine, but you should accept that it stems from a religious belief that life is sacred. Nice belief, but like all religion it’s based on faith, not the factual evidence. The overwhelming evidence says life is common and cheap and while the quality is improving in the third world, it’s getting worse in the civilized world.
Jake
January 27th, 2010
1:17 pm
Pro Choice – If all life is so sacred why are you pro choice?
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
1:19 pm
“I am fine with this ad as long as the policy now opens up access to ads by those that take the opposite view or that want to promote opinions on other controversial topics.”
I’m hoping a commercial for the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom will have an ad on soon. I’m sure they have a beautiful story to tell as well, and everyone watching the Super Bowl will really be moved.
Here is their website for those who wish to contribute:
http://www.ncsfreedom.org/
Air America's Mortician
January 27th, 2010
1:22 pm
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.
Mick
January 27th, 2010
1:23 pm
Question: Does anybody actually have to go to work on this blog or are you all indepedently wealthy?
Swede Atlanta
January 27th, 2010
1:23 pm
Ref: jewcowboy @ 1:19
Go 4 it. I gave up sex a long time ago so I won’t be contributing.
I think CBS is going to agonize over this decision going forward because they opened the door and now they have to deal with how to manage the policy without appearing to take sides in controversial subjects.
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
1:23 pm
Enter your comments here
Urban Meyer
January 27th, 2010
1:25 pm
If CBS will air a commercial advertising “The Morning After” abortion pill why would there be controversy concerning an athlete expressing his personal opinion about abortion?
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
1:25 pm
Well, I, for one, have had enough of this anti-choice hypocrisy, so I shall move on.
Beck Condemns O’Keefe’s Operation, Calls It Watergate
It looks bad when even Glenn Beck throws you under the bus.
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/27/beck-condemns-okeefe/
Bud Wiser
January 27th, 2010
1:25 pm
Uh, Granny G, you never do what you suggested I do, so go stuff it someplace dark.
I don’t take ideas from morons, and it was a simple matter of italicizing, and it was overlooked.
Take your liberal crap, and, shove it.
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
1:26 pm
Air America’s Mortician,
Read spam emails much? The subject of that was: Words of Wisdom for Today 2010. My right-wing troglodyte cousin sent that to me last week. Good to know you can copy and paste.
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
1:28 pm
Mick,
“Does anybody actually have to go to work on this blog or are you all indepedently wealthy?”
Much downtime as my work decided not to upgrade the internet connection and uploading 2Gb graphic files take quite some time.
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
1:31 pm
Swede Atlanta,
“I think CBS is going to agonize over this decision going forward because they opened the door and now they have to deal with how to manage the policy without appearing to take sides in controversial subjects.”
It will be hard to put the genie back in the bottle.
pat
January 27th, 2010
1:34 pm
jake, he is in jail for murdering his unborn child with a charge of murder…Where are you getting lost?
Mick
January 27th, 2010
1:35 pm
There is some interesting info, silly arguments and some much needed humor, so thanks for that..
Jake
January 27th, 2010
1:36 pm
Swede = you mean CBA has to take a position like Fox, fair and balanced?
TaxPayer
January 27th, 2010
1:37 pm
Wow. Did any of you folks stop for lunch. Hundreds of posts since last I peeked. I’ll bet not a single right winger has posted the definition of abortion that they’re willing to accept or even when life begins.
redneckbluedog
January 27th, 2010
1:38 pm
ok..so let’s say tebow turns out to be homosexual, which many in the South, including myself, suspect…maybe next year mr. dobson (who once had ted haggard as his protoge) will put out another add with timmy and his mommy…..