Tebow anti-abortion ad in the Super Bowl just free speech
I admire Florida football star Tim Tebow, both for what he does on the field and for who he is off the field. By all accounts he tries to live his Christian faith, and I’ve never been bothered by his efforts to proselytize. Even in the Biblical citations he wears in his eyeblack, he shows the good manners to proclaim his faith quietly without questioning or condemning that of others. OK by me.
Tebow is now the focus of a bit of controversy involving an anti-abortion ad in which he stars with his mother. The ad, sponsored by James Dobson’s Focus on the Family, will air during the Super Bowl, and some pro-choice groups are protesting the ad’s acceptance by CBS. They do have a point.
As the Washington Post reports, the Women’s Media Center and other groups “questioned how and why the network, which used to forbid ‘advocacy’ advertising, agreed to air Focus on the Family’s spot, which is valued at $2.5 million to $3 million.”
“The media center also noted that as recently as 2004, CBS had rejected an ad from the United Church of Christ, which wanted to use the Super Bowl as a chance to tell people it welcomes gay members. The center says CBS also has rejected ads in the past from MoveOn.org and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.”
The question of fairness is legitimate, but if this is really a new policy at CBS that will be extended to other causes as well, liberal and conservative, fine. The previous policy — designed not to offend anybody — never really made sense anyway, not in an advertising culture where discussion of four-hour erections and urinary problems have become standard.
And if Tebow wants to use his hard-earned fame to promote causes that he believes in, fine as well. I just hope he picks his spots carefully and stays wary about how others want to use him.
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Brad
January 27th, 2010
10:23 am
Jay, not often do I say this, but I agree with every word! I’m glad to see you use the term “anti-abortion” becasue that is what it is, I just wish you would have used “pro-abortion” for the other side. “Choice” and “Life” have nothing to do with this debate. Conservatives aren’t anti-choice just like liberals aren’t anti-life. The issue is abortion so pro-abortion and anti-abortion are the only terms to use without distorting the point.
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
January 27th, 2010
10:23 am
ty webb
**but why should someone have adopted a baby to be against abortion.**
Give the guy a break. Jewcowboy is a very good democrat. He attacks people who offer questions that he hasn’t been trained to answer, but this “All lifers must adopt” nonsense is a well taught approach. HE can’t go beyond an answer to that crap, but he is at least trying .
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
10:24 am
Judging by the actions of most anti-choice people, their concern is only for those pre-birth, not after-birth.
After all, actions speak louder than words.
hmmmmmmm...........
January 27th, 2010
10:24 am
Here’s some free speech for you……..and we wonder why our state is broke? Maybe it’s some of our leaders???? Furlough days, overwhelmingly unpopular with every government employee, including teachers, professors, etc……Who all, by the way, were all hired with a mutual agreement, understanding, contract on pay……..this clown “legislator” never took his furlough days because he didn’t agree with them, and he understood he was going to make a certain amount of moeny……..(from the ajc article today):
Rep. David Lucas of Macon and Rep. Earnest “Coach” Williams of Avondale Estates said they oppose the furloughs on principle. Both said the leadership ordered the days without consulting members, who ran for the office with the expectation they would be paid a certain salary.
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
10:24 am
ProChoice – 10:23 – awwwww … I’m feeling the love of Jeeeeebus OOZING out of that post!!!
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
10:24 am
This must have surely gotten overlooked, so I will repost.
Another “what if”:
What if a 12 year old girl is raped and impregnated by her father?
Should she be forced to bear the child?
GodisanAtheist
January 27th, 2010
10:25 am
If there were a merciful and omnipotent god, there wouldn’t be any abortions.
Whacks Eloquent
January 27th, 2010
10:25 am
Mick,
“Abortion, out of sight – out of mind. Personal choice of those involved, let God sort it out.”
I actually agree, despite my personal feelings on it. I just don’t understand why pro-choicers are so upset about an organization that wants to influence the abortion choice. It still is up to the women, there are many of us that would like to see women choose not to get abortions because they feel it is the right choice, not because the imperial government won’t let them.
Pro Choice
January 27th, 2010
10:26 am
USinUK,
You are still around. You have choice…..now please go execute it. It appears no one wanted you in infancy, or now.
thomas
January 27th, 2010
10:26 am
And Jenifer,
To give you a what if.
What if a 16 yr old girl has unprotected sex with numerous partners, very frequently then gets pregnant.
Has an abortion, goes back to her same old ways.
Gets Pregnant, and has another abortion.
Since her life didn’t have any consequences she then goes back to having unprotected sex again. Gets pregnant has another abortion.
Goes back to the same thing again.
How is she not using abortion as birth control?
Who knows if she aborted the fetus that would one day cure cancer?
My what if happens way more than your what if.
Being that I have only been out of college for 4 years, I assure you mine is one very often repeated.
In most cases it has nothing to do with rape or finaincial security.
It has to do with the selfishness of the mother and not wanting to take responsibility for her actions and not wanting to give up her party life style, or comfortable lifestyle.
lmno
January 27th, 2010
10:26 am
If a fetus is a baby, then when did it become one? Was it when the cells began to divide, or the moment one sperm entered the egg (even in a petrie dish) , or before the sperm entered the egg?
If its the latter, is masterbation aborting thousands of little babies down the drain?
@@
January 27th, 2010
10:27 am
Ragnar!!?!!
Tax ‘em all and they’re no longer worthless. When they begin to see the government as something other than their means to and end, they’ll turn on ‘em. The judicial system will take care of the sociopaths. Limit the number of appeals to one. Hasten due justice.
As far as assignment of worthless human beings….I’ll let that stink stick where it belongs–with Margaret Sanger’s Planned Parenthood who said the poor and ignorant should not be allowed to breed. Ignorance begets ignorance. She was talking about African Americans. I’ll let the dems continue to support her views, not me.
eeewwwwwww
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
10:27 am
Drain The Swamp (NIF),
“We have to adopt children in order to be against killing unborn babies?”
I’ve noticed that the most loud anti-abortion people also tend to be the ones who never consider adoption, are against anything that smacks of assistance to those in poverty with little or no education and are big proponents of abstinence only education…
They like to tell others what to do…but rarely do anything to make the situation better. A lot of hot air, with no solution.
thomas
January 27th, 2010
10:28 am
So jenifer do people who have adopted unwanted babies have a right then to be pro-life. Obviously they care about the baby after it is born.
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
10:28 am
ProChoice –
yep. god’s love is just a-FLOWIN from your posts!!! I’m sure he’s so very proud.
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:29 am
Brad @ 10:23 am
Well said!!!
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
10:29 am
Maureen,
“It’s a football game — why can’t the network just show funny commercials like they normally do. Bringing such controversial topics to such a fun event will not be pleasant for anyone.”
Perfectly said.
Normal
January 27th, 2010
10:29 am
Pro Choice,
You are getting a little too persomal here. Don’t make Jay ban you…just sayin’
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
10:29 am
lmno – 10:26 – according to the RC church, it is.
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
January 27th, 2010
10:30 am
USinUK, AMVet
It has to happen. Yes, fathers rape daughters. Yes women are raped, yes, sometimes the woman’s life is in danger.
Perhaps we could just start working on some sort of plan to REDUCE the numbers of babies being aborted. Perhaps we could spare more young girls the lifelong pain of knowing that they killed their child. Perhaps we could reduce the talk of supporting a multi-billion dollar abortion industry as something noble.
Maybe we could crack down on Hollywood and their incessant money grabbing efforts to sell sex to teenagers. After all, do teenagers really need to be any more “randy” than they already are?
That would be a great start.
Mick
January 27th, 2010
10:30 am
WE
No question adoption is preferable but there are many people of no conscience, no beliefs and it should be their choice as how to proceed.
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
10:30 am
Pro Choice
January 27th, 2010
10:13 am
here here!!! *APPLAUSE*
Granny Godzilla
January 27th, 2010
10:30 am
Proudly pro-choice…..
Perhaps we just wait it out, it may turn out to be a moot point.
“Signs posted above the kitchen sink warn students not to drink from the tap because the water is tainted with nitrates, a potential carcinogen, and DBCP, a pesticide scientists say may cause male sterility.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,555360,00.html
just sayin’
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
January 27th, 2010
10:30 am
To compare the issue of taking an innocent life to the various mundane sins of the flesh is beneath contempt, just sayin…
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
10:31 am
Normal
January 27th, 2010
10:29 am
So you were appointed the blog monitor-lizard?
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
10:31 am
“If a fetus is a baby, then when did it become one? Was it when the cells began to divide, or the moment one sperm entered the egg (even in a petrie dish) , or before the sperm entered the egg?
If its the latter, is masterbation aborting thousands of little babies down the drain?”
Definitely. You must not, I repeat, must not masturbate.
A lot of people feel that any form of birth control, other than abstinence, is abortion.
burp bacharach
January 27th, 2010
10:32 am
timmy’s mommy is going to hell, she let a pee-pee in her woo-woo out of wedlock, it says so in the bible…
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
10:32 am
Drain The Swamp (NIF),
“HE can’t go beyond an answer to that crap, but he is at least trying .”
I will amend my comments to point out that homophobic douche bags shouldn’t be allowed to adopt. They should be aborted.
TaxPayer
January 27th, 2010
10:32 am
Define abortion. Does it encompass the use of contraceptives or morning after pills. Is it abortion if you do not even have the ability to determine whether egg and sperm have joined forces yet. By the way, are there any ads for Viagra at the superbowl.
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
10:33 am
For some reason this keeps getting overlooked…
Another “what if”:
What if a 12 year old girl is raped and impregnated by her father?
Should she be forced to bear the child?
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:33 am
“It’s a football game — why can’t the network just show funny commercials like they normally do. Bringing such controversial topics to such a fun event will not be pleasant for anyone.”
Do you want a remote control is? Do you know how to press he up or down button to change the channel?
Normal
January 27th, 2010
10:33 am
Outhouse, unlike some here, I prefer civility. It just makes one seem more adult.
nike commercial
January 27th, 2010
10:33 am
brit hume dunks tiger in a water hazard be healed tiger and forego buddhism your now a christian go forth and judge
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
January 27th, 2010
10:33 am
Jenifer
**Judging by the actions of most anti-choice people, their concern is only for those pre-birth, not after-birth.**
Try to find an orphanage set up by planned parenthood. Now try to find one set up by the Catholic Church.
Do you ever actually think before you type?
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
10:34 am
Drain The Swamp (NIF),
I should also add that the most rabid anti-choice proponents also tend to think that gays shouldn’t be allowed to adopt…but that’s just what I’ve observed.
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:35 am
“timmy’s mommy is going to hell, she let a pee-pee in her woo-woo out of wedlock, it says so in the bible…”
You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about…….
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
January 27th, 2010
10:36 am
jewcowboy
I get it. You are incredibly bitter and angry that I dared to ask a question that you didn’t like. I won’t try to do any better. I won’t ask the questions that are easy for you. I just thought you had a little bit more spine than this.
Deal with it. Calling me names doesn’t make you look any smarter.
Curious Observer
January 27th, 2010
10:36 am
LA is over at Bob Barr’s blog, but he’s not having any fun. Seems everybody on that blog is a conservative–nobody for LA to alienate. Look for Bookman to get a pleading e-mail soon.
Bosch
January 27th, 2010
10:36 am
too many posts since my last comment to keep up with the conversation, but:
thomas,
your son does have the option to steal or not to steal or kill or not to kill – it’s still HIS choice – you can guide him to the right decision, but it will always be his choice.
Calling someone who goes through with their choice to have a legal medical procedure a murderer is why I try my best to stay out of this discussion. If you’ve ever known anyone whose actually been murdered, you’d feel the same way.
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
10:39 am
NIF – anyone stupid enough to advocate orphanages (not to mention one run by the Catholic Church) has obviously never had any kind of personal experience with them.
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
January 27th, 2010
10:39 am
jewcowboy
**I should also add that the most rabid anti-choice proponents also tend to think that gays shouldn’t be allowed to adopt…but that’s just what I’ve observed.**
Well, that explains it. Because I want the number of abortions to begin to decrease, I SHOULD be branded with anything you have ever heard about people who are against abortions.
Pathetic.
trojan man
January 27th, 2010
10:39 am
why is every sperm sacred? the virgin mary didn’t even need the baby batter….
Jake
January 27th, 2010
10:40 am
Jennifer – Kill the fatheer, abort the fetus, and provide counseling to the girl.
viagra
January 27th, 2010
10:40 am
how many of you faux christians are taking viagra at half-time?
@@
January 27th, 2010
10:41 am
Why do women have abortions? For over 15 years, those asking that question have had to rely on a 1987 study that some were concerned might have become outdated in light of the declining number of abortions and shifting abortion demographics.
Now a new study from the Alan Guttmacher Institute (AGI), Planned Parenthood’s special research affiliate, brings our understanding of women’s abortion decisions up to date. While showing that women’s basic reasons have largely remained the same, the study presents some compelling new data that those reaching out to abortion-prone women will want to consider.
A couple of conclusions are very apparent from this data. First, those who wish to use the so-called “hard cases” of rape, incest, life of the mother, and genetic disability to argue for the necessity of abortion on demand will continue to find it difficult to make that case based on the reasons women offer for their abortions. Ninety-two percent cited what might be termed “social” or “other” reasons, rather than medical reasons or sexual assault, as the primary basis for their abortions.
There ^^^ ‘ya have it! The “social” stigma no longer exists. And the “other” reasons? Let’s say they’re financial….adoption can take care of that.
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:42 am
“taking viagra at half-time”
I’m 24 so I don’t need it. Thanks for asking though.
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
10:42 am
What could be the matter?
Another “what if”:
What if a 12 year old girl is raped and impregnated by her father?
Should she be forced to bear the child?
Mick
January 27th, 2010
10:42 am
I’ll admit its cold not to consider the life started at conception but what about collateral damage, famine, war, natural disasters and on and on. Just take some time and be thankful for your life and give it your best shot every day.
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
10:43 am
Drain The Swamp (NIF),
“Deal with it. Calling me names doesn’t make you look any smarter.”
Asking hypothetic questions while denigrating gay people won’t make you look any homophobic. I only call you out because instead of asking your hypothetical question about something like a baby with a deformity or heart problem or genetic disease…you ask what if it’s gay. As if being gay was genetic deformation that severely impacts the quality of someone life.
It was douche bag question generated from a homophobic point of view.
Cleveland Steamer
January 27th, 2010
10:43 am
Father rapes/impregnates 12 yr old daughter? She must deliver baby for the bible says, “incest is best”
Mel
January 27th, 2010
10:44 am
I like Tebow. I admire his athletic abilities and certainly respect that he has his personal beliefs. HOWEVER… I do not need them crammed down my throat. No way would CBS air a pro-choice ad (which, incidentally, does not necessarily mean “pro-abortion”) so I think it should not air.
I do find it ironic that the basis of the ad is that his mother had a choice. She chose not to listen to the doctor.
Doggone/GA
January 27th, 2010
10:44 am
Mick – “I’ll admit its cold not to consider the life started at conception”
How do you define “life”? Because while 1 life begins at conception, 2 lives end. The lives of the egg and sperm cease to exist as separate, living cells at the moment they fuse together.
Kim
January 27th, 2010
10:44 am
I’m a gator & Tebow fan; my least favorite thing about him has always been his prosthelytizing. However, unlike the recent Citizens United decision, that is free speech. There is no secret here. CBS didn’t air the United Church of Christ’s commercial because they were cowed by the vocal, hateful minority. Despite what this vocal minority would have you believe, the great majority of America does support gays. This is not rocket science & hate is not a family value.
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
January 27th, 2010
10:44 am
USinUK
**NIF – anyone stupid enough to advocate orphanages (not to mention one run by the Catholic Church) has obviously never had any kind of personal experience with them.**
I have been in Catholic (and protestant) orphanages. Not great places for a kid to be raised. But outside the walls of those orphanages? Would you rather have the kids there, being sold into prostitution at age 9? Should all of those kids have been killed before birth?
What are the options? Do we just kill them all?
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:45 am
“Should she be forced to bear the child?”
Was it the kid’s fault that happened? Should he not have a chance at life because of this?
AmVet
January 27th, 2010
10:47 am
“Perhaps we could just start working on some sort of plan to REDUCE the numbers of babies being aborted.”
NiF, I completely agree, of course.
But again to those that would outlaw abortion, my question is…
What is a reasonable alternative to this problem?
I think even many of you would agree that teaching abstinence only, for example, is ludicrously ineffective.
Do you agree or disagree that providing condoms and other forms of birth control en masse, would help?
I am interested in hearing pragmatic and defined solutions.
Bueller? Anyone????
TaxPayer
January 27th, 2010
10:47 am
If the guy says yes but the gal says no, is she aborting at that point.
Doggone/GA
January 27th, 2010
10:47 am
“Should he not have a chance at life because of this?”
No, because the life, health and sanity of the girl impregnated by her father FAR outstrips any “rights” of the foetus. Always.
veritas
January 27th, 2010
10:48 am
Why is this an issue? A group has produce a commercial without objectional material (though it may represent a point of view people don’t agree with) and ARE PAYING FOR IT. What basis would CBS have for refusing to take the ad? It would be similar to refusing to sell a house to a person strictly on the base of their race.
Isn’t it ironic that people who claim to espouse “choice” now want to practice censorship limiting information on one of the choices? Thos who object are at liberty to create their own commerical (within FCC guidelines) and pony up the money to run it.
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
10:48 am
“Was it the kid’s fault that happened? Should he not have a chance at life because of this?”
And so your answer is…what?
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
10:48 am
Drain The Swamp (NIF),
“Because I want the number of abortions to begin to decrease, I SHOULD be branded with anything you have ever heard about people who are against abortions.”
First of all, it has been my observation not something I’ve overheard.
Secondly, what steps have you personally taken to ensure that all unwanted babies end up in a loving supportive home? I’m not talking about forcing women to simply have the baby…but making sure that any unwanted baby is not simply cast aside by society, but is instead raised in home with someone that wants them.
Anne
January 27th, 2010
10:48 am
That’s the thing about Tebow….he doesn’t proselytize the way most people do. He actually LIVES his faith. That being said, I’m pro-choice and don’t have a problem with the ad. It was his mother’s right to decide whether or not to take her doctor’s advice. That’s the whole point. I’m not anti or for abortion, I’m for the safe and legal choice I, as an adult, can make. By the way, this isn’t a forum to debate Tebow’s skills or lack thereof. The young man is upstanding, a good leader, a good player and his friends and teammates respect him. He’s not promoting the thug mentality of so many of our current athletes….and that is a wonderful thing to behold.
Byron Mathison Kerr
January 27th, 2010
10:49 am
To be clear, there are women who would never consider having an abortion who believe strongly in the rights of other women to make that choice for themselves, i.e., pro-choice, not pro-abortion.
The idea that just because you personally disapprove of something you must fight to make it illegal for everybody is an authoritarian concept that too often goes unchallenged in our free American society.
If CBS ultimately decides to run this anti-abortion ad, then it will be difficult for them to reject ads judged as controversial in the future. And abortion rights issues are, understandably, about as controversial as they come.
And while we are on the subject, I personally do not understand why is was considered controversial for the United Church of Christ to advertise its non-discrimination policy about allowing gay members in its own congregations?
Regardless of one’s possible prejudices toward gay people, why would that person object for us to have a welcoming place to worship God and fellowship with others? After all, gay people are … people — with the same spiritual needs as their non-gay children, family members, and friends.
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:49 am
“If the guy says yes but the gal says no, is she aborting at that point.”
You’re a douche(sorry for the personal attack, Jay).
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
10:49 am
Well, well, well…
Another “what if”:
What if a 12 year old girl is raped and impregnated by her father?
Should she be forced to bear the child?
@@
January 27th, 2010
10:50 am
HOWEVER… I do not need them crammed down my throat.
To quote the pro-choice advocates. The govenment should not be allowed to come between a woman and her right to choose.
On the other hand, progressives DO believe the government should be allowed to come between a patient and their doctor when they support CRAMMING THE HEALTH CARE BILL DOWN OUR THROATS.
You can’t have it both ways.
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:50 am
“And so your answer is…what?”
Sorry Jenifer, I thought you were smart enough to assume my answer. NO SHE SHOULDN’T MURDER(abort or whatever you wanna call it/sugar-coat it as) THE KID. Clear enough for ya?
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:51 am
Jay, Jenifer keeps posting the same thing over and over again…you wanna stop that or something?
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:52 am
@@ at 10:50…I never thought of it that way. Pro-choice people(usually democrats) want the government to control everything else. Why no the right to murder?
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
10:52 am
“NO SHE SHOULDN’T MURDER(abort or whatever you wanna call it/sugar-coat it as) THE KID. Clear enough for ya?”
Crystal clear. Thank you.
Doggone/GA
January 27th, 2010
10:52 am
Well said, Byron
Madison Avenue
January 27th, 2010
10:52 am
who cares what Tim Tebow thinks about abortion? who cares what CBS thinks of Tim Tebow? I’d no sooner “choose” based on the musings of Tim Tebow/his mom when it comes to abortion, than I would drink a Pepsi because Britney Spears, Michael Jackson or Bob Dole said to.
Mick
January 27th, 2010
10:53 am
**The lives of the egg and sperm cease to exist as separate, living cells at the moment they fuse together**
They cease to exist even if they don’t create life. The embryo evolves.
TaxPayer
January 27th, 2010
10:53 am
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:49 am
“If the guy says yes but the gal says no, is she aborting at that point.”
You’re a douche(sorry for the personal attack, Jay).
And what are you. Just plain sorry, I suspect.
MAC
January 27th, 2010
10:53 am
Has anyone even SEEN the Tebow ad they are protesting or defending? Link please if you have.
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:53 am
I’m sorry…pro-abortion. Sorry about the typo!
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
10:53 am
“Jay, Jenifer keeps posting the same thing over and over again…you wanna stop that or something?”
Hurts all over, doesn’t it?
Paul
January 27th, 2010
10:53 am
“Given what’s happening to the Democratic agenda and the Party in general, posts about Palin or abortion are a sure diversion.”
I always thought it a trite comment, but now I’m not so sure.
SQUIRREL!!!!!
Jake
January 27th, 2010
10:53 am
veritas – CBS can accept or refuse any ad they want, but your pathetic racial discrimination in housing comparison is actually against the law. Truth, maybe, intelligent, doubtful.
Kamchak
January 27th, 2010
10:54 am
Damn! I used to watch the game primarily for the ads.
Geez.
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
10:54 am
Doesn’t hurt as all Jen, just annoying to someone spam a blog w/ the same thing over and over again.
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
January 27th, 2010
10:55 am
jewcowboy
Why are you so afraid of the question? We are all discussing hypotheticals here.
So if the doctor finds that the mother is going to abort the child because the child shows a genetic disposition to being gay, would you want those abortions outlawed? This is quickly becoming reality. Pre-birth genetic tests are very common and some doctors believe that gays have genetic markers.
I am not saying that I would ask that my spouse abort a child because of the presence of those markers, but you know as well as I do, that some . . . many people would abort that baby, specifically because of this.
Why are you so afraid to address this?
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
10:55 am
Actually, I have the answer to my repeated question.
Oh yes I do.
Doggone/GA
January 27th, 2010
10:55 am
“Crystal clear”
Personally, I would say “brutally honest”
TaxPayer
January 27th, 2010
10:56 am
Keep up the good work, Jenifer.
Doggone/GA
January 27th, 2010
10:56 am
“The embryo evolves”
or doesn’t
TaxPayer
January 27th, 2010
10:57 am
Peadawg makes a good substitute for LA.
Jake
January 27th, 2010
10:57 am
Peadawg – It’s not murder or whatever you want to sugarcoat it. Under the current law of the land it is clearly not murder, murder is illegal, abortion is not. Is suicide murder? How about capital punishment or self-defense during a home invasion, murder, murder, murder?
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
10:57 am
“Keep up the good work, Jenifer.”
I intend to. Their silence speaks volumes.
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
10:58 am
NiF –
“I have been in Catholic (and protestant) orphanages. Not great places for a kid to be raised.”
then, maybe advocating for them isn’t such a hot idea.
and, again – there are currently kids who have been living in foster care their entire lives, there are kids who are institutionalized because of illness or physical problems – adopt THOSE kids first before we start adding more to the mix …
Whacks Eloquent
January 27th, 2010
10:58 am
Jenifer,
“Should she be forced to bear the child?”
Need more situational data. As she is a minor, she is not legally allowed to decide for herself. If the father got away with the travesty, there is a serious conflict of interest. If the bastard is jailed, as he should be, then the choice belongs to the girl’s mother. If the mother chooses to keep the baby, it is nobody else’s business. If both parents were guilty (direct and association), then the choice goes to her appointed guardians. If there are no suitable guardians, then the girl assumably becomes the ward of the state, and at least here in Georgia abortion is not an option in such cases.
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January 27th, 2010
10:58 am
Peadawg:
Why no the right to murder?
For some time I’ve been of the opinion that dems are subversive in their racism. Harry Reid’s recent comments makes it all the more obvious.
But that’s just me and mine.
Swede Atlanta
January 27th, 2010
10:58 am
I don’t care what policy CBS uses for accepting ads provided it is unbiased. If they are going to allow one group advocating one social position access to one of the largest viewing audiences then it should allow the other side of the same issue as well as accepting ads for other social issues. The issue and ads must be discreet and non-confrontational.
But I’m not sure the SuperBowl crowd is the right audience. The rest of the ads will be funny and creative. The overall mood is supposed to be one of rooting for your team and celebrating the victor.
But if FOTF wants to use their funds in this manner, CBS agrees to air it (provided their policy change is indeed a change that will open up this opportunity for other causes and viewpoints) then go for it.
Bosch
January 27th, 2010
10:59 am
“progressives DO believe the government should be allowed to come between a patient and their doctor when they support ”
Someone needs to get their crystal ball fixed.
Whacks EIoquent
January 27th, 2010
11:00 am
Jenifer,
“Should she be forced to bear the child?”
Need more situational data. As she is a minor, she is not legally allowed to decide for herself. If the father got away with the travesty, there is a serious conflict of interest. If the jerk is jailed, as he should be, then the choice belongs to the girl’s mother. If the mother chooses to keep the baby, it is nobody else’s business. If both parents were guilty (direct and association), then the choice goes to her appointed guardians. If there are no suitable guardians, then the girl assumably becomes the ward of the state, and at least here in Georgia abortion is not an option in such cases.
Ridgerunner
January 27th, 2010
11:00 am
Just remember, as science progresses you abortionists/pro-choicers will someday be in the same category as slave owners (”how could ‘decent’ people have been so ignorant and cruel”?).
Your descendants will not be proud.
Kim
January 27th, 2010
11:00 am
Anything that can not survive on its own is called a parasite.
TaxPayer
January 27th, 2010
11:00 am
Damn! I used to watch the game primarily for the ads.
It seems the days of getting a rise from “Bud” “Wize” “Er” are over, don’t it.
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January 27th, 2010
11:01 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
11:01 am
Jake, I call it like it is pal. Looks like I’m in the minority when it comes to not caring what the PC babies say.