Tebow anti-abortion ad in the Super Bowl just free speech
I admire Florida football star Tim Tebow, both for what he does on the field and for who he is off the field. By all accounts he tries to live his Christian faith, and I’ve never been bothered by his efforts to proselytize. Even in the Biblical citations he wears in his eyeblack, he shows the good manners to proclaim his faith quietly without questioning or condemning that of others. OK by me.
Tebow is now the focus of a bit of controversy involving an anti-abortion ad in which he stars with his mother. The ad, sponsored by James Dobson’s Focus on the Family, will air during the Super Bowl, and some pro-choice groups are protesting the ad’s acceptance by CBS. They do have a point.
As the Washington Post reports, the Women’s Media Center and other groups “questioned how and why the network, which used to forbid ‘advocacy’ advertising, agreed to air Focus on the Family’s spot, which is valued at $2.5 million to $3 million.”
“The media center also noted that as recently as 2004, CBS had rejected an ad from the United Church of Christ, which wanted to use the Super Bowl as a chance to tell people it welcomes gay members. The center says CBS also has rejected ads in the past from MoveOn.org and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.”
The question of fairness is legitimate, but if this is really a new policy at CBS that will be extended to other causes as well, liberal and conservative, fine. The previous policy — designed not to offend anybody — never really made sense anyway, not in an advertising culture where discussion of four-hour erections and urinary problems have become standard.
And if Tebow wants to use his hard-earned fame to promote causes that he believes in, fine as well. I just hope he picks his spots carefully and stays wary about how others want to use him.
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GoingBroke
January 27th, 2010
9:08 am
Abortion is always going to be a touchy subject and people are very emotional about it. Nothing like a woman making a life altering decision and having to run a gauntlet of screaming people to get into a doctors office. The commercial sounds like it is tasteful and if you don’t want to watch it.. good time for a snack run.
Granny Godzilla – Interesting how when someone states fact.. it becomes crap in a liberals mind.. So.. when someone does talk “crap” to a liberal.. it must have the reverse action.. they see it as truth..
FrankLeeDarling
January 27th, 2010
9:09 am
um..USinUK check this out
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/26/scott-moore-pregnant-man_n_437503.html
Whacks Eloquent
January 27th, 2010
9:09 am
USinUK,
““I support anything that helps women make the right choice…”
really??? like comprehensive sex ed? like access to effective forms of birth control (including plan b)? like emergency contraception being handed out to ALL rape victims, regardless of which hospital’s emergency room they go to???”
Yes I do. Next…
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:11 am
ty –
“real debate? I redirect you to your 8:53 post”
which was in direct proportion to the seriousness of your “aborting only male fetuses” post.
Mick
January 27th, 2010
9:11 am
I don’t understand this fixation with the teleprompter. There is no way bush could have made it without one and his press conferences were an embarassment. Obama can actually communicate without the teleprompter, its just a matter if you agree with what he is saying.
nadanada
January 27th, 2010
9:11 am
As to why CBS is allowing the ad when previously they have not allowed advocacy ads, I don’t know. However, I think it points further to the idea that the script for the ad is a subdued PSA type document. CBS did make the comment that if other groups wanted to air “responsibly scripted” ads they would not object.
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:12 am
FLD – I saw that in the news this morning … somehow, I don’t think the world is quite ready for them to be the new characters on Modern Family …
Liberals=Morons
January 27th, 2010
9:12 am
Justme, a pro-choice ad as you put it is really a pro-murder ad so why would any station want to advocate murder?? Quit kidding yourself.
Ridgerunner
January 27th, 2010
9:13 am
I disagree.
I think abortonists should have equal time to show a video of an unborn child being ripped apart in its mother’s womb ……….. interposed with linebackers doing the same thing to the quarterback in his “safe” pocket.
God help us …………………..
Hoof Hearted
January 27th, 2010
9:13 am
Mick,
I agree with you. However, did you see the Daily Show the other night? The Pres was speaking at a middle school, in a classroom, and he had his teleprompter set up. Stewart ripped him pretty good. Bush may have done the same thing; I don’t know. However, Obama should probably use it a little less.
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:15 am
“I don’t understand this fixation with the teleprompter”
… when all you got is nuttin’, you get teleprompters and iPods …
(which, by the way, is a total BS story – the iPod featured the Queen’s favorite composer, Rogers and Hart, and a songbook signed by the same composers … as well as footage of HER trip to the states in 2007 … but, as the saying goes, they never let a good lie die )
LibraryJim
January 27th, 2010
9:16 am
I’ve seen Obama try to speak without a teleprompter (remember during the campaign when his teleprompter malfunctioned? He couldn’t go on until it was fixed!), and it ain’t a pretty sight. all “um”s and “uh”s, etc. and not one coherent sentence attached to the other.
Heck, even Joe Biden makes fun of Obama’s reliance on the teleprompter, as when the wind blew one over at the Air Force Academy and Biden quipped “Oh, no, it’s broken! What are we going to tell the President?”
Frank Wren
January 27th, 2010
9:16 am
he shows the good manners to proclaim his faith quietly
LOL Are you kidding me? The eyeblack?
And ask yourself this. If Tebow were Muslim and had been putting references to the Koran on his face every game would he have been allowed to do it? I doubt it. Its a shame that the very thing this country was founded on, freedom of religion, no longer exists.
Who knew a 22 year old football player was the expert on womens bodies and reproductive issues in America.
kayaker 71
January 27th, 2010
9:16 am
It is my undersstanding that the focus of the ad centers around the fact that Ms. Tebow was advised to have an abortion while pregnant because of an illness she had while carring Tim. She rejected this and went on to have a healthy boy who accomplished something that few people do. It appears that the message is that you never know what you are going to get and it would be a shame to have not had this person in the world. With 1.37M abortions peformed yearly in this country, it is nice to know that we have salvaged one or two, especially one like this guy.
@@
January 27th, 2010
9:17 am
Lest we forget, folks from the left have also been ushered to the door of this fine establishment, @@, including such illustrious names such as God Hates Trash and Public Option.
If you’ll recall, jay, I spoke out against their banning as well.
Free speech is free speech. All for one and one for all.
Having said that, you’re topic has been addressed.
Wouldn’t it be interesting to know how “People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals” felt about aborting the human species, BABIES.
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:17 am
“With 1.37M abortions peformed yearly in this country, it is nice to know that we have salvaged one or two, especially one like this guy”
yep. to hell with the health of the “donor womb” …
oy.
Granny Godzilla
January 27th, 2010
9:17 am
Going Broke
See you have a shiny new name. How many will you use today?
Your buddy or alter ego or whatever posted without attribution…that’s not a bright idea.
Are you going broke because we redistribted all your money?
stands for decibels
January 27th, 2010
9:19 am
One other thing, since it’s worth addressing:
no more than the ad for the next big horror movie is encouraging people to put on hockey masks and go on murderous rampages.
While that’s a valid enough point, it might not be a great example to warm the c0ckles of my own heart—I hate violent movie trailers, believe that such stuff probably desensitizes people to actual violence, frankly don’t want my kid exposed to them, and would be fine with some voluntary commercial TV standards being adopted that would tone them down a great deal.
And I’ll admit not having seen the ad, but, rather, I’ve just read a description of Tebow’s mom’s story; it’s possible I’ve got the advocacy message wrong. But it sure sounds as if it’s not just glorifying risking your life to save a fetus, but condemning anyone who hasn’t.
Paul
January 27th, 2010
9:19 am
Hoof Hearted
Sixth graders. A class of sixth graders. Now, some will argue that anything the President says will be taken apart and analyzed so he has to be careful. I’ll submit if that was the case here, then just maybe he needed to calibrate his message more for… 11-year olds.
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/addressing-elementary-school-children-obama-uses-teleprompter
Whacks Eloquent
January 27th, 2010
9:20 am
Did anyone think that perhaps the reason CBS has chosen to air the ad is that Tim Tebow is a very popular player of a team who won 2 national titles under his leadership. The spot costs a LOT of money and CBS knows that people wanna see Tebow. Business decision through and through.
Would any of you out there really force them to cancel the ad? And what power bestowed upon our illustrious government gives them the power to do so?
If it is against CBS policy, only their shareholders can dictate that. And perhaps the NFL if they decided to axe the contract.
Mick
January 27th, 2010
9:21 am
**The Pres was speaking at a middle school, in a classroom, and he had his teleprompter set up.**
Didn’t see it, guess thats like pouring gas on the fire. Clinton had a great speaking style and could command your attention but for my money uncle ron was the best..
Ragnar Danneskjöld
January 27th, 2010
9:21 am
From what I hear about the Tebow ad – that’s right, I have not seen it either – there is no political message. The content is approximately as political as the syrupy Clydesdale advertisements. Even if a religious person says something, it does not logically follow that everything the religious person says is political. Our friends from the cult of death simply need to switch to decaf.
Bradley G
January 27th, 2010
9:21 am
USinUK – Are you really suggesting that all 1.37M abortions were done solely b/c the baby threatened the health of the “donor womb”?
Really? That isn’t even the Pro-Choice argument for…pro-choice.
Doggone/GA
January 27th, 2010
9:21 am
“I don’t understand this fixation with the teleprompter”
Simple. Always remember the First Rule of the Conned: NEVER let a good lie die
FrankLeeDarling
January 27th, 2010
9:22 am
As a person who only cares about surfing and motor sports, but is a pro choice UF grad I just don’t know this morning.
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
9:22 am
I wish the people who are anti-choice would be as concerned about the welfare of the ones who are born as they are for the ones in the womb.
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
9:22 am
Obama makes great speeches butt “all flash and no substance” is not quite the idea for a President. Oh Im sure numerous wonderful ideas will be brought forth and Pelosie/Biden will bouncing off their fannys the entire time.
Make for great show!
Curious Observer
January 27th, 2010
9:22 am
With 1.37M abortions peformed yearly in this country, it is nice to know that we have salvaged one or two, especially one like this guy.
When I see kayaker and others advocating for increased aid to children of the poor, instead of giving us that “eliminate welfare” line, then I’ll believe in the sincerity of his message. Until then, I view most of the ad’s defenders as merely desirous of imposing their religious beliefs on everyone else.
Finn McCool
January 27th, 2010
9:22 am
We demand nudity during the half time show!
Well, ok, as long as they have another really cool E*Trade baby talking commercial. Golden pipes, shankapottamus….we really do need more of this.
Hoof Hearted
January 27th, 2010
9:23 am
Mick and Paul,
Yeah, I never should have mentioned it here. The nuts will lose it over that one.
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
9:23 am
“welfare of the ones who are born”
Thats the job of the parents.
Jimmy Carter
January 27th, 2010
9:24 am
Doggone/GA
January 27th, 2010
9:21 am
Uh oh, the daily “lie” posts have begun.
If you don’t think he has a fixation with a teleprompter, then please explain why he needs it to talk with 6th graders. 6TH GRADERS, for crying out loud!!
lmno
January 27th, 2010
9:25 am
Maybe they could air a commercial about a woman who choose to not have an abortion against her doctor’s reccomendation and she and the baby died. I am sure such stories exist. They could run them back to back.
The message would be clear; if your doctor advises you to abort and you don’t you will either die or your child will be a wierdo who is great at football.
Larry
January 27th, 2010
9:26 am
Where were all the Free Speech advocates when all TV ads criticizing BushCo and his war were rejected! NOTHING was ever permitted when The Moron was president. Remember when every child in America was traumatized by the sight of a partial breast during the High Holiday, Super Bowl Sunday.
T-Bone is a bible thumping, self promoting phony who has bigger plans for the future. Look for the cry-baby celebrity to run for office in FL (republican, of course) or become the star of his own TV ministry or hate radio show – depending on which opportunity provides him the biggest incentive.
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
January 27th, 2010
9:26 am
@@
it’s not a baby, it’s a zygote and it’s not a Mother, it’s a donor womb.
See? Isn’t that better? Now we shouldn’t feel at all bad about the murder of a million American citizens every year, as long as we change their name.
DirtyDawg
January 27th, 2010
9:26 am
Jenifer…what in blazes were you thinking to post such a thoughtful piece, particularly with such big words? Surely you don’t think the neanderthals around here would bother to try and read it, even if they could? And while I’m at it, geedubyabush didn’t use the teleprompter much cause he was better at making words up than reading ‘em. At the same time, unless Obama was planning to deliver some sort of ‘prepared’ message, clearly the use of one at an elementary school was, indeed, laughable.
As for the Tebow message. Sure it’s appropriate for him and his mother to deliver a message that says, in essence, ‘be careful about your ‘choice’, your baby may grow up to be like Timmy.’ At the same time, it would also be appropriate – and at least as likely from an odds standpoint – for the momma of some mass-murderer to make a spot where she says, ‘I can’t tell you how many times I’ve wished that I had ‘aborted’ my Timmy – McVeigh, that is.’
H
January 27th, 2010
9:26 am
I don’t have a problem with the substance of the ad, but this is just typical, Tebow tackiness. Some of the things Tebow does are really nice, but I don’t know anyone who does more interviews and loves to talk about all his good deeds more than Tebow: “I know I could have gone to the panhandle like most college kids, but I didn’t because I chose to go to the Phillippines to help people because I understand the importance of helping people…” Tebow clearly understands John 3:16, but does he also understand Proverbs 16:18 “Pride goes before destruction…”
dave
January 27th, 2010
9:27 am
Jay, this is that one time a year I agree with you. Tim is a fine young man and unlike most of us (me included) lives his daily life in compliance with his stated beliefs. As far as the “free speech” aspect is concerned, “what’s good for the goose, is good for the gander.”
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
9:27 am
“Pro-abortion sounds like an acceptable term, or should be.”
That’s essentially what “pro-choice” is, right? So stop w/ the PC non-sense…let’s call it like it is.
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
9:27 am
“choose to not have an abortion against her doctor’s reccomendation and she and the baby died.”
OR
choose to not have an abortion against her doctor’s reccomendation and she and the baby lived. Unfortunately the baby, once grown, turned out to be such a disappointment she wished she had followed her docs reccommendation of aborting the lil basturd.
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
9:27 am
There are many who decide that if the parents don’t do their job of feeding their children, then the children should be left to starve.
Like this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIXI5HNj6XE
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:28 am
ohfercryingoutloud … he didn’t use the prompter when he talked to the kids – he used it when he had his presser …
seriously, guys – you really need to let the teleprompter thing go – it makes you look desperate.
Jimmy Carter
January 27th, 2010
9:28 am
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:28 am
I think Obama is the one who needs to let the teleprompter go….at least when he’s talking to 12 year olds.
TaxPayer
January 27th, 2010
9:28 am
Maybe the Dixie Chicks could be called upon to put Tebow’s message to song.
Normal
January 27th, 2010
9:29 am
The message would be clear; if your doctor advises you to abort and you don’t you will either die or your child will be a wierdo who is great at football
Like Josef says…I don’t care who you are thass funny…
Ranter
January 27th, 2010
9:29 am
Let all the girls boycott the Super Bowl – what do they know about football in the first place? Anyway, shouldn’t they be in the kitchen making dips and wings for the men?
Mick
January 27th, 2010
9:29 am
**If you don’t think he has a fixation with a teleprompter, then please explain why he needs it to talk with 6th graders. 6TH GRADERS, for crying out loud!!**
Maybe when you become president the teleprompter becomes like your personal ipod. Its really not that big a deal.
@@
January 27th, 2010
9:30 am
stands for decibels:
Do you have any idea how quick many obstetricians will offer abortions. I had a friend whose ultrasound showed not one, but two soft markers for disability. The OB, without hesitation, offered her a choice. Had some innocent sounding word for the process. My friend rejected the option outright.
That child was born with no disabilities. She’s is, in fact, one of the smartest 18 month olds I’ve ever seen.
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
9:30 am
“Maybe the Dixie Chicks could be called upon to put Tebow’s message to song.”
Pass that monitor cleaner!
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
9:30 am
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
9:27 am
Its not an issue of the child starving the issue is the parents lack of caring, responsbility, common sense. Nice spin though and excellent promotion of the Nanny-State!
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:30 am
Bradley – “USinUK – Are you really suggesting that all 1.37M abortions were done solely b/c the baby threatened the health of the “donor womb”?”
no, I’m talking about this ad in particular – in which the doctor told Tebow’s mother that her health was at risk – this ad is advocating ignoring that advice (but, then, that fits right in with the rest of the anti-choice movement that thinks they should be more involved with health decisions than doctors)
Normal
January 27th, 2010
9:30 am
H
January 27th, 2010
9:26 am
Well said!
TaxPayer
January 27th, 2010
9:31 am
Well, I agree with Jenifer. It is just a good thing that the Tebows did not rear a child into poverty in South Carolina.
GoingBroke
January 27th, 2010
9:31 am
Granny G..
never changed my name?? I am unable to post everyday as I travel for a what I do. When I have some free time I like to get on here and see whats the topic for the day.
Teleprompters.. Pres Obama (the liar) is a great speaker.. no doubt.. reminds me of the other great speakers.. Like Creflo Dollar… etc. The man needs a teleprompter to speak to school children and thats just kind of sad..
Food for thought.. on the news this morning the talk show hosts were talking about the economy.. one of the reporters made the comment that while Reagan faced several of the issues that Pres Obama is dealing with, he was “lucky” that the economy turned itself around. Lucky?? He cut taxes to stimulate growth.
How would you like to retire on 90% of your salary for the rest of your life? Just get a government job..
Jimmy Carter
January 27th, 2010
9:31 am
Ranter
January 27th, 2010
9:29 am
I think you’ve just smacked the hornets nest with that one.
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
January 27th, 2010
9:31 am
Larry
**T-Bone is a bible thumping, self promoting phony**
Tebo is a phony? YOu had better explain that to the multitudes of monster football players that he ran over during his years at Florida.
You seem very bitter and very full of hate. Maybe all is not lost. Instead of a young man actually standing up for what he believes, maybe Tebo will go more your style and become a rap artist and beat up a few GFs before he is found overdosed like so many American left wing icons.
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:32 am
Not Jimmeh – “I think Obama is the one who needs to let the teleprompter go….at least when he’s talking to 12 year olds.”
and, again – he didn’t use it when talking to the kids – he used it for the presser.
nice try.
but desperate.
kayaker 71
January 27th, 2010
9:32 am
US in UK,
The “donor womb” and it’s health is not quite the issue. 92% of the 1.21M abortions performed in the country in 2009 (down from 1.37M) were performed for “societal reasons”, otherwise for birth control and because the child was not wanted. I will not speculate about the health of the wombs of all of these irresponsible people but will say that it seems a shame that we are destroying the equivalent of a pretty good sized American city every year, all under the label of “choice”. And we get our panties all in a wad about Michael Vick doing away with a few dogs or some Muslim fanatic trying to blow up a plane.
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
9:32 am
“in which the doctor told Tebow’s mother that her health was at risk – this ad is advocating ignoring that advice”
Obviously it was bad advice as Tebow’s mother is still kickin’.
Doggone/GA
January 27th, 2010
9:32 am
“If you don’t think he has a fixation with a teleprompter, then please explain why he needs it to talk with 6th graders. 6TH GRADERS, for crying out loud!!”
The REAL “issue” is WHO CARES? Except for those who just HAVE to obsess over non-issues.
thomas
January 27th, 2010
9:33 am
With the new SC decision is there anything that says CBS has to accept equal advertising from opposing views of a political or social situation?
Seems networks can allow whatever commercials they choose. They only loose money by not accepting other commercials.
But this is free speech and any who disagree, well you are excercising your free speech, how dare you try to limit anyone who wishes to practice theirs?
CBS pays their bills so they get to choose how they make their money.
Paul
January 27th, 2010
9:33 am
I suppose it was inevitable that a speech issue would flip over to abortion. What’s really interesting, though, is how the blog’s split. Essentially, it’s two extremes. I’ll offer both positions are about as out of touch with most of America and are unaware, much as the Democratic establishment is after the series of events culminating in Scott Brown’s election.
Take a look at Brown’s position on abortion. In favor of current laws permitting abortion? Pretty much. Fight for a particular point but vote for the underlying bill, anyway? Yup. Against expanding to pretty much an on-demand basis. Yeah. In favor of scaling back current basic provisions? Nope. Says abortions should always be legally available? Yup.
And that’s the Republican who was elected. But there are plenty of groups whose donations and positions of power for their officials depends on no nuance, on taking an either/or all or nothing stance.
http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Scott_Brown.htm
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Normal
January 27th, 2010
9:34 am
Ranter
January 27th, 2010
9:29 am
I know you are being funny but I went to a super bowl party where the women stayed in the kitchen talking and only came out to see the commercials. The men would get up and make calls of nature or raid the kitchen. When the ads were over, the men came back for the game and the girls went back to the kitchen…gotta love it.
TGT
January 27th, 2010
9:35 am
What if this ad was to air within 30 days of an election (or whatever the McCain-Feingold limits)? Would it then be “free speech?”
Of course the answer is yes–even if it advocated voting in a particular way.
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
9:35 am
This is where the magic wand would come in handy.
To make parents be caring and responsible.
Now where is that magic wand?
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:36 am
kayaker –
“92% of the 1.21M abortions performed in the country in 2009 (down from 1.37M) were performed for “societal reasons”, otherwise for birth control and because the child was not wanted.”
yep. that’s what we need – more unwanted kids! huzzah!! because, god knows, there are no children in the US who need homes – there are no kids lingering in foster care – there are no kids who have physical or mental impairments who are unable to find a loving home …
and, hey, let’s make sure there are MORE kids out there with single moms who can’t afford to raise them! hooray!!!
Bubba
January 27th, 2010
9:36 am
Jenifer wrote: I wish the people who are anti-choice would be as concerned about the welfare of the ones who are born as they are for the ones in the womb.
That may be the most tired argument in the anti-life arsenal. Did you ever take a logic course? If I save a 1-year-old child from being killed by her parent, does that mean I have to be concerned about what happens to her the rest of her life? Should I have just let her die?
Jimmy Carter
January 27th, 2010
9:37 am
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:32 am
Desperate? Nah.
So I guess Obama was speaking with the press in a classroom filled with students.
Nice try.
but inaccurate.
Boots
January 27th, 2010
9:37 am
I don’t really see what the problem is.
Tebow’s a nice guy, I’m sure, and if he doesn’t want to have an abortion, that’s his business.
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:38 am
oh, and btw, Kayaker (and others) – I use the term “donor womb” because the woman in this situation seems to rate with you people not at all. she and her rights are secondary.
joan
January 27th, 2010
9:38 am
Eric is a joke. Why does he believe that Tebow needs to wallow in the dirt to “live” a real life. We have some seriously mentally and ethically deficient young people in our country, but Tebow isn’t one of them. Someone named Eric is.
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
9:39 am
“If I save a 1-year-old child from being killed by her parent, does that mean I have to be concerned about what happens to her the rest of her life?”
No, you wouldn’t have to be, but I certainly would be.
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:39 am
bubba – “If I save a 1-year-old child from being killed by her parent, does that mean I have to be concerned about what happens to her the rest of her life?”
actually, yes, it does. you should be concerned about the welfare of that child, the household it is in, etc., because THAT will be what shapes its future.
Ranter
January 27th, 2010
9:39 am
Normal – now that’s what I’m talking aobut!
Troglodyke
January 27th, 2010
9:40 am
I am a pro-choice atheist, and I think CBS should not be censured for running the ad. It’s all about money, in the end. And all the press given to it is just going to make everyone want to watch it…or not.
Personally, I don’t find Tebow’s story to really be a compelling reason to make the ad. Who are they trying to convert? Tebow’s mom, like another poster pointed out, had a support system to help her raise Tim, and he had many advantages (two being that he was white and athletic). I’m sure the ad does not address what poor pregnant women are supposed to do, though I’m sure that is the demographic that FoF is trying to convert.
I just find it silly that religious groups, and religious people, spend so many billions of dollars and billions of hours anguishing over the subject of abortion. Couldn’t tha money be better apent elsewhere? Aren’t their ANY OTHER CAUSES that so-called “Christians” care about? Why not spend those millions on doing things that Jesus actually preached about?
I am not for “sharing the wealth.” I am not a liberal. And it is their money to do with as they will…but it seems like SUCH a waste. Abortion will ALWAYS be around. It is NEVER going to go away, no matter how many billions are thrown at it. I hope it will always remain legal, but even if it doesn’t, it ain’t going away.
Religious people’s priorities are sometimes so screwy. What WILL make this world a better place, really? What SHOULD one be doing to make the world a better place?
Given the fact that God is the biggest abortionist of all time, and abortion is NEVER mentioned in the bible, people get so freaking worked up over it! Really, folks–the bumper sticker is trite and pat, but it’s true: If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one. IT’S NO ONE’S BUSINESS but the pregnant woman (if she’s over 18) and the contributor of the sperm (if he even cares).
Do you honestly think you are making the world a better place by preaching against abortion? How, exactly? How about preaching against homosexuality? That’s as moronic…all the money and time WASTED FOREVER on something that is NEVER going away.
Supposedly this great man named jesus saved you all, and died for you, and was this incredible human being made holy who brought salvation to you…and yet his legacy has become one huge screed against abortion and homos?
How the hell have you Xtians done that? Have you even READ your bible?
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
January 27th, 2010
9:40 am
Jenifer
**To make parents be caring and responsible.**
Wow. That’s a hell of statement. So all the babies that were born to abusive parents should have been killed before they were born. Are you sure that is the stance you want to take? Especially considering our president’s parents dumped him onto his mother’s parents (his white grandparents).
jewcowboy
January 27th, 2010
9:40 am
CBS Sports Columnist Gregg Doyel said it best,
“Apparently the commercial has a beautiful, undeniable message. Tebow’s mother suffered a life-threatening infection during that pregnancy, and doctors advised her to abort the baby. She didn’t. She named him Tim. Just typing this paragraph gives me goose bumps. The commercial might just make me cry.
Still, I don’t want to see. Not during the damn Super Bowl. And I’m not complaining about the ad because it’s anti-abortion and I’m not. I’m complaining about the ad because it’s pro-politics. And I’m not.
Not on Super Sunday. If you’re a sports fan, and I am, that’s the holiest day of the year. That’s a day for five hours of football pregame shows and four hours of football game and three hours of postgame football analysis. That’s a day for football addicts to gorge themselves to the gills on football. It’s not a day to discuss abortion. For it, against it, I don’t care what you are.
On Super Sunday, I don’t care what I am. Feb. 7 is simply not the day to have that discussion.”
Whacks Eloquent
January 27th, 2010
9:40 am
Another scenario for ya…
What if Tebow-mommy had died, but her son survived? Most moms I know would definitely sacrifice their life for their child. Would y’all categorize them as stupid? How would you feel if a guy came out with an ad, thanking his mom for not giving up on him even though she died in childbirth?
FrankLeeDarling
January 27th, 2010
9:41 am
off topic daily de bunk at 9:31 Reagan had to RAISE taxes to turn the economy around
Curious Observer
January 27th, 2010
9:42 am
How would you like to retire on 90% of your salary for the rest of your life? Just get a government job..
Why don’t you do a little research before you spout nonsense? Under ol’ Newt’s great federal retirement system, you get 1% of the average salary for the top 3 earning years for each year you work. That means for working 30 years, your pension is roughly 30% of your average salary. Even if you worked 60 years, you would get at most 60%.
Get off the blog, go to school, and try to learn something before you try to tell the rest of us how much you know.
mom
January 27th, 2010
9:42 am
I am surprised these women’s groups are not offended by these soft-core-porn Victoria Secret ads and other scantily clad women you see in commercials…..why the offense at this? Which is the better role model for your child?
Bosch
January 27th, 2010
9:42 am
Peadawg,
““Pro-abortion sounds like an acceptable term, or should be.”
That’s essentially what “pro-choice” is, right?”
No, it’s not and you are being willfully ignorant on the issue.
Ragnar Danneskjöld
January 27th, 2010
9:43 am
Dear USinUK, you will be pleased that we have a broad area in which we can agree. Just as good conservative girls are unlikely to conceive leftists, they are unlikely to abort such future potential good citizens, As loose leftist women are more likely to conceive leftists, we would all urge them to abort all of their spawn, for the future good of society. Give each faction what it wants, right?
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:43 am
Jimmeh –
“So I guess Obama was speaking with the press in a classroom filled with students.”
yes – he spoke with the press AFTER he spoke to the kids …
seriously, why is that so complicated for you
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//100119/480/9131bc77c7534185bdbf267bb4ab8497/#photoViewer=/100119/480/04ee70e24cc148d5863b63fc00eeb816
DirtyDawg
January 27th, 2010
9:43 am
Back on the ‘teleprompter’ thingy…seems to me that your boy-George could have used one, or maybe a mic in his ear like that debate time, back on 9/11/01 while he sat there in front of a bunch of first-graders with a look of ‘I don’t know whether or ’s**t’ or go blind’…but that’s OK cause the cheer-leader was able to parlay talking like a peckerwood (must have been that private school, and Yale, and Harvard, education) and buying a pig farm so he could look ‘Texas’, only in his case it was ‘All hat and no pigs’.
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
9:43 am
“anti-choice”
I prefer anti-abortion but use whatever term you’d like…it’s free speech.
Drain The Swamp (NIF)
January 27th, 2010
9:44 am
USinUK
**I use the term “donor womb” because the woman in this situation seems to rate with you people not at all. she and her rights are secondary.**
If her health is in danger, there shouldn’t be a hesitation for an abortion to save the mother. But to murder the child because it’s just not a good time to have a baby? Or as the conversation has now gone, because the baby won’t live in a Disneyland home?
No. The unborn baby should have the rights that are given to any minor age citizen of this country. Yes, this doesn’t hold down the surplus population, but the poorest are still having the most children and the “Idiocrasy” best and brightest are having abortions. As I have said before: is just around the corner.
KWB
January 27th, 2010
9:44 am
Aren’t you glad your mother didn’t abort you?
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
9:44 am
Another “what if”:
What if Tebow had been a serial killer?
Bosch
January 27th, 2010
9:44 am
“Would y’all categorize them as stupid?”
No.
“How would you feel if a guy came out with an ad, thanking his mom for not giving up on him even though she died in childbirth?”
The same as I do with Tebow – why does he think he needs to put an ad on TV doing this?
But in this case, it’s even more weird as his mother would be dead, so why would he spend millions to thank his deceased mother on TV except for his own self gratification which could easily and more cheaply be done by other means.
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
9:45 am
“No, it’s not and you are being willfully ignorant on the issue.”
How is not essentially the same? Please explain you opinion.
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
9:45 am
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
9:35 am
Magic Wand? mmmm…perhaps basic parenting skills might be more effective or not having a kid one isnt gonna rear properly. Those might be two helpful ideas…then again with todays society those might be a lil ole fashioned. YA…its a NannyState mentality.
Sunny Daze
January 27th, 2010
9:45 am
I too have always had a great deal of respect and admiration for Tim Tebow and the things he stands for. We need more like him. However, I do not agree with a commercial spot on such a controversial subject that is sure to aggitate many viewers. That’s not what the superbowl is about and it has no place there.
Jenifer
January 27th, 2010
9:46 am
FLD, 9:41,
Please do not post facts.
Peadawg
January 27th, 2010
9:47 am
Oh, I know. Pro-choice is more politically correct, right Bosch?
Pandora
January 27th, 2010
9:47 am
I’m all for it! I am totally against abortion. It’s WRONG because it’s MURDER!!!
Outhouse GoKart
January 27th, 2010
9:47 am
“by these soft-core-porn Victoria Secret ads”
Soft porn? LOL…you mean modeling?
USinUK
January 27th, 2010
9:47 am
Ragnar told a funny at 9:43
(cuz everyone knows that conservatives NEVER have abortions … baaaahahahahahahaha … )
Bosch
January 27th, 2010
9:47 am
Peadawg,
You wrote that pro-choice is basically the same as being pro-abortion – I don’t know anyone who is pro-abortion – no one I know believes in abortion like it’s some kind of great thing. Being pro-choice is that you simply believe it to be a woman’s choice – that’s it, and to call it anything else, you are being willfully stubborn and ignorant.