Obama takes a step — a small step — toward deficit cuts

I think the “Party of No” is still an appropriate label for the G_P. What we need is a little more transparency though. Let the Republicans refuse to help, when asked to serve their country, on camera, for starters.

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It’s the military budget that needs to get the ax or deep freeze. Just watching our gov’t from the sidelines is a most frustrating exercise.

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I’m still waiting for the promise of an end to programs that don’t work and cost too much money. A freeze on some is a start.

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Gale

F22

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Republican congressmen should at least cost us little if anything to keep in DC. After all, how much effort does it take to just say no.

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Granny G, good point. But I was thinking of the many smaller items that slide under the radar. They probably fit in with the many medicare expenses that are unwarrented. Medicare has a lot of the same waste, but I think that is state funded.

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“Republican congressmen should at least cost us little if anything to keep in DC.”

You do have a point. After all, a lot of republicants do cozy up together there in the C Street house.

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Why are you all calling for the republicans to do something?

Democrats had the house, senate and oval office all under their control and all they did was pass a stimulus bill that as of yet has provided little relief and tried to pass other numerous spending bills, with little success.

You had 60 votes and a super majority. Anything you wanted to do you could have, except you allowed the far left factions to control what was done and weild their power with a no give attitude.

So please save the republican party of no and any other request of republicans until you are able to honestly acknowledfge the failure to produce anything in the 12 months and 5 days since gaining total control of the government.

But the GOP does make a good boogie man scapegoat.

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Jimmy carter

so the President gives the GOP what they said they wanted during the campaign. and your problem with that is?

Gale

some info for you

EXCLUSIVE: Obama wins more spending cuts than BushRate this story

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jan/14/obama-wins-more-cuts-in-spending-than-bush/

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Great, after raising spending more than $1 trillion, Chauncey plans to keep it there. If we had a competent president he would cut it back to the levels of the Bush administration.

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Have any Republicans actually put together any work on a proposal for spending cuts. As I recall, they certainly had an opportunity to speak up during the healthcare debate, for one, and voice their support for eliminating $400 billion in waste, fraud and abuse in Medicare and Medicaid. I guess they didn’t really mean that they wanted to really cut the debt and deficit. To really do so would be so UN-GOP. So NOT Republican. They were just mouthing off, as usual. No substance, just more bumper sticker talk.

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JD,
contrary to what you have seen in some media reports alot of tea party members were actually p*ssed at both parties, and vocally acknowledged it.

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cut spending, cut spending, cut spending…
All bills in the future to only include spending related DIRECTLY to the bill. All earmarks to buy votes eliminated. Keep working at it, and we can stop the bleeding.

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taxpayer @ 8:23

Would you mind linking us the plans and actual passed laws or regulations the democrats have done in the past 12 months and 5 days?

I mean they did have a super majority and could have passed and signed into law whatever they wanted.

They even blocked rep out of HC meetings so they could take all of the credit, but still failed. Wonder why?

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Granny Godzilla, only when taken out of context of the rest of my statement and argument.

BTW what have they produced?

They could have done what eveer they wanted but failed to act, fighting themselves and not for the American people.

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All this talk is just that. A look at a pie chart of the FY2010 budget shows how little a spending freeze will do:

30% Human Resources
18% Past Military
36% Current Military
5% Physical Resources
11% General Government

Are you going to cut pensions of retired military personnel? The military itself? The pathetic 11% devoted to government operations? The 5% devoted to maintaining the buildings and parks we have?

No, the only thing being looked at falls under the category of Human Resources, including Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. And once you get to the few things that can be frozen in that category, you’re peeing in the ocean.

So long as more than 50% of government expenditures are devoted to the military, either current or retired, we’re going to continue running a deficit, barring massive tax increases.

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thomas

it so easy to find well documented lists of President Obama’s first years accomplishments I would think you’d be ashamed not to google it yourself.

now if you really can’t do it, I’d be happy to help you this once.

go to google

type in “Obama’s first year accomplishments”

and read

but again, if you can’t get it done, i’ll do it for you.

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We will never get our deficits under control until we reform entitlement spending. Freezing discretionary spending, which makes up a relatively small portion of the overall budget, just won’t do the job.

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I have a Idea let’s let congress pay for their own health plan,personal responsibility and all,why should I have to pay their health care ,they don’t pay mine.I wonder what that cost is, and how much could we as taxpayers save by letting them pay for their insurance themselves like every other American.

As for defense spending we could really make some cuts there.

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Southern Atl, the only problem with the scruiteny is who is doing it and what slant is placed on the interpretation. If each voter doesn’t fact check for himself, we have the same problem. It is propaganda; maybe the facts and statistics presented are true, but what were the conditions and omitted facts. It comes back to an informed electorate.

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“Obama takes a step — a small step — toward deficit cuts”

One word – FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jimmy Carter, Evidently you fell off that pony a lot!

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Gale@8:38 a.m. I agree with you 100%!! There is so much information out there and most of the time we as citizens can not trust all of the sources!! We have to come up with ways to separate politics from actual facts!!!

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Republicans have never been anything but obstructionists, they have never had a original idea or suggestion.

How about: The Emancipation Proclamation or EPA?

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Jay is a master of stating how deficits doubled under previous administrations, but he always leaves out the fact the it was on a much smaller number, and a much smaller percentage of GDP. Pretty important facts don’t you think?
Bush was bad with a -$480B deficit, Obama good with -$1.4 trillion. And yes I agree the -$480B was not good.

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“It’s pretty pathetic that even though dems have all the power, posters here like taxpayer and Jenifer are looking for leadership from repubs.”

Bob, if I’d wanted republicant leadership I would have voted for it.

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Democrat’s spending????? Wasn’t it the Republican’s spending that got us in this mess to begin with? How quickly memory fades…. It was BUSH and the republican congress that over spent and created this deficit to begin with. Recall that when Clinton was President (a Democrat), we had a federal budget SURPLUS!!!!! Then, the Bushs got into office and spending went crazy.

And, jj, it is entirely unfair to blame Obama for the 2009 deficit. That budget is largely a result of the residual spending of Bush and his policies. I clearly recall that when a republican gets in office, they always blame their first 3 years on the previous democrat in office. Remember????!!!!!

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Poor widdle Republicans need a Democrat to show them the way. They just cannot do anything.

Well, except say no.

“No, I don’t want to help. I want to be an obstructionist because I know that it is the only chance I have of getting back in power. I know that I have no chance at all of regaining my rightful throne by helping. So, I Object to helping the people of this once great nation. If I go down, they all go down.” Scorched earth. That pretty much sums up the typical every day average Republican in a nut-shell.

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As an aside…. I cringe to think that health care reform is dead. The American people have said time and again that we need to STOP getting ripped off by the AMA, drug companies, etc. The US medical system is not even in the top 15 in the world and yet we are number 1 in spending on health care – something is wrong.

Yes, we need jobs, etc. But PLEASE don’t let health care reform die. I don’t give a flip if it is a replican or democrat that takes the lead.

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Two simple concepts.. Term Limits.. Fair Tax..

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I applaud the effort.

Taxes need to go up now, and more spending cuts need to be made.

Take a look at the history of income taxation in this country. Your taxes aren’t high. In fact, comparatively, your taxes are incredibly low.

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Madison

January 26th, 2010
8:41 am

Jealous that I had a pony and you didn’t, huh?

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Granny Godzilla,

The links you posted, first were opinions and second said the same thing I did.

He has not done much in the form of acts for the people only political acts, and by the way alot of your article spoke of things Obama has pledged or said he would do.

Which to me falls into the GITMO deal. Its one thing to say something, its a lil different to follow through.

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Um, Bob….. I don’t know if you were alive during the Reagon Presidency, but the Congress did whatever he wanted. He was such a populist President, he was able to push through everything that he wanted.

So, yes, I think it is safe to say that all of the good and bad that happened during his terms is his ‘fault.’

How quickly people forget even recent history!

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Jimmy Carter, Yes, as a matter of fact.

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jj
**Bush was bad with a -$480B deficit, Obama good with -$1.4 trillion. And yes I agree the -$480B was not good.**

Don’t forget that bush kept the cost of iraq war off the books as supplementals = 800 billions worth.

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taxpayer, again I’ll ask.

Since you claim democrats are so wonderful and republicans so bad, eventhough my opinion is they are all a lil evil, then could you please show us all of the great works accomplished by Obama and the house and senate in the past 12 months and 5 days?

I mean they have been in complete control and did not need one single republican vote. But infighting between normal people and the party’s far left wing left them with nothing.

Hell the GOP may screw things up but at least they produce something. So far the onlt thing the democrats have done is assign blame, to an impotent party. One I see you obtained the memo on.

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Reality you are so wrong, I still remember vividly Tip Oneal and George Mitchell claiming Reagans budget was “dead on arrival”, every year it arrived. Dems spent what they wanted and gave Reagan his military money, they were equals, that is history, you lose !

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Sam and thomas: Are you kidding me????? You are judging a President on the results of the first year?

The first Bush blamed Clinton for his first three years. He said that Clinton didn’t handle foreign affairs well enough and so we had 9/11. He said that he had to dramatically increase military spending because Clinton spent too little. And on and on.

Now, you want to say that Obama is a “failure” because he hasn’t cleaned up Bush’s mess in 12 months? Are you SERIOUS?

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Although dems controlled the house, senate and white house with the exeption of Ike since FDR, we cannot metion things like the environment being so screwed up that a republican had to start the EPA.

Nice lie. Nixon, as a good little Republican, was opposed to any kind of federal control of environmental action. He at last had it forced on him, at which point he appointed a council to guide him. Only a fierce partisan could interpret this action as starting the EPA in the face of Democratic opposition.

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Well, looks like Obama contradicts himself on this issue.

His own words.

Obama Campaigned Against Spending Freeze

YouTube: No less than four times during the presidential debates did President Obama actively campaign against an across the board spending freeze.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/01/26/obama_campaigned_against_spending_freeze.html

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And just why do you think Grover Norquist is opposed to it, Jay?

Could it be he doesn’t want any part of half measures when really he’s only interested in hostile schemes that will help bring down the notion of budget, and all that it supports, as we know it?

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Reality

January 26th, 2010
9:08 am

Bush blamed Clinton for three years, such as 9-11? That happened less than 8 months after Bush took office. If 9-11 is Bush’s fault, then unemployment is surely Obama’s fault, as is bank failures, foreclosures, etc.

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“Bush blamed Clinton for three years, such as 9-11? That happened less than 8 months after Bush took office. If 9-11 is Bush’s fault, then unemployment is surely Obama’s fault, as is bank failures, foreclosures, etc.”

GREAT POINT!

According to liberals, nothing is their fault and it’s always the GOP’s fault.

Example: When Clinton was disbarred, it was the GOP’s fault.

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Jimmy Carter – You made my point, exactly. It is not Obama’s fault. Thanks.

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“It is not Obama’s fault. ”

Spoken like a true Begala.

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lmno

January 26th, 2010
8:59 am
I applaud the effort.

Taxes need to go up now, and more spending cuts need to be made.

Take a look at the history of income taxation in this country. Your taxes aren’t high. In fact, comparatively, your taxes are incredibly low.

My taxes are low? How in the world would you know? You pay as much as you want, there, homey. I’m tired of working 65 hours a week to watch 40% of my income dissappear into Federal smoke.

You want an example of how to do it? Look at Ireland, a thriving economy with a sane tax program.

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Gotta love this…
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/node/34478

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Poll Confirms Massachusetts Election Was Not A Rejection Of Health Care Reform

Hey tea partiers and such,

What did Scott Brown do when in the state legislature to get rid of Massachusetts’ health care?

Take your time, do your research, and get back to me.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/25/mass-health-care/

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Obama’s Credibility Gap

By BOB HERBERT

Who is Barack Obama?

Mr. Obama is in danger of being perceived as someone whose rhetoric, however skillful, cannot always be trusted. He is creating a credibility gap for himself, and if it widens much more he won’t be able to close it.

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“I was pointing out that Bush blamed Clinton – and the republicans accepted it.”

Do you have proof that Bush blamed Clinton for 911 etc?

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“Jennifer – You do realize that when you ask tea partiers and republicans to “do your research” all they will do is turn on FOX TV. Do you really think that this will help them?”

Nah, but I had fun typing it.

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Its past time for these entitlement programs and free govt giveaways to end.

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“Its past time for these entitlement programs and free govt giveaways to end.”

Yep!

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… Tip Oneal spent taxpayer money to have an Metro DC Ambulance drive the Budget to the Captial hill and they stood over Reagan’s Budgets and said “This Budget is DOA … Ron Ramsey …

politics.nashvillepost.com/2009/10/01/did-reaganomics-encourage-folks-not-to-save
Reality, what does this mean, if dems always went with Reagan, why would any budget be DOA. You stating dems always sided with Reagan is just wrong.

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“You stating dems always sided with Reagan is just wrong.”

She has no proof that democrats always sided with Reagan. THAT is a pile of crap.

Another lie from a lying liar.

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“Congressional Republicans preaching about fiscal responsibility remind me of alcoholics in AA. ”

Did you make it through all of your AA classes?

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“My taxes are low? How in the world would you know? You pay as much as you want, there, homey. I’m tired of working 65 hours a week to watch 40% of my income dissappear into Federal smoke.”

I wrote that your income taxes are low comparatively to historic levels in this country.

The HIGHEST marginal tax bracket in this country is currently 35%, so I assume you are adding sales, property, and state income tax to your 40% rate you quote.

I will also have to assume that you are in the highest bracket, making over $337,000 a year. Lets assume for arguments sake that you make $500,000 a year and have no deductions or credits. Your effective Federal Income Tax rate is currently around 30%. Only the last $75K you made was at 35%.

Now, if we assume a 3% inflation rate and take your money backwards, it would be equivalent to making to making about $165,000 in 1980. Your marginal bracket then would have been 68% and your efective rate around 50%.

Taking it back to 20 more years to 1955, you would have been earning about $90,000. Your marginal rate would have been 72%, and your effective rate around 55%.

So, I will write it again, your taxes are comparatively very low.

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TaxPayer

January 26th, 2010
9:35 am

On that we agree. I loved Bonanza.

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Jimmy Carter

You gotta understand liberals. They ALWAYS blame other people for their problems and faults. It’s never their fault something happens because of their insane bills etc….

These are the same people who said that George Bush caused Hurricane Katrina. Same people that said Bush created 911 to get re-elected.

Bottom line: Their days in power is numbered. November is going to be a slaughter.

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“So, I will write it again, your taxes are comparatively very low.”

Thanks Joe Biden!

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Congressional Republicans preaching fiscal responsibility reminds me of Congression Republicans preaching family values or ethics reform or transparency… A lot of pulpit. No pulp. Just watered down sweet talk. Grape flavor-aid.

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LA, sorry to disappoint you, but I was always the one picking up the pieces, not the drunk one. I’m sure you’ll think of some other way to wound me with an insanely clever personal insult, though, sparky.

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“I’m sure you’ll think of some other way to wound me with an insanely clever personal insult, though, sparky.”

Personal insult? You mean like when bloggers call someone a dick or an idiot?

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Imno at 9:38,

You are confusing welfare (about 1 or 2 percent of the budget) with entitlements like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, which along with interest will consume the entire revenue of the U.S. government in a few years.

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It simply doesnt matter. The dummycrat party is in full meltdown with very little chance of stopping it. These Dems who are retiring understand which way the wind is blowing, hence, the “rats jumping ship”.

After the 2010 elections the presidential coconut will be a castaway…he and his ideological nightmares.

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Let’s stop funding private military contractors like blackwater and give the money to REAL soldiers.

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I’m going to take a guess and say that the libs on this blog would be all for this forum.

Capitalism’s woes cheered at World Social Forum

PORTO ALEGRE, Brazil – Leftists are pouring into town to rail against freewheeling capitalism during the World Social Forum, gleefully cheering the humbling of bankers and business titans by the global economic meltdown.

At the opening of the five-day event, some 25,000 activists paraded exuberantly through Porto Alegre on Monday, serenaded by the pounding of drums and salsa blared from sound trucks as they waved communist flags and shouted slogans against corporate greed.

The 10-year-old conference is the left’s counter to the World Economic Forum at Davos, a Swiss ski resort where presidents, corporate leaders and others gather annually to discuss international issues. It is also being held this week.

Gustavo de Biase, a 22-year-old Brazilian wearing a shirt proclaiming “Socialism is Liberty,” said the world’s leftists are convinced they can get presidents from the U.S. to Brazil to embrace policies “of respect and equality aimed at lifting the poor out of misery.”

“We want to distribute the riches to people,” he said. “We’re fighting for a more equal society and we’re saying ‘Down with hunger’ and ‘Down with war.’”

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thomas,

Jennifer is in denial. This same person claimed that Bush killed 3000 people on 911. She’s insane.

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People like LA are inn total denial of the fact that a majority of Americans are in favir of the “public option,” – the closest that the health care reform has come to “government controlled health care.” (It still would be no government control.)

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FrankLD at 9:47, YES! Why is it groups back home (like the GVVA) are scrambling for donations to help soldiers and their families scrape by, (please give!) while private contractors (paid for by our tax dollars as well) are raking in upward of $100K apiece? Also, who’s auditing Halliburton since they moved their HQ to Dubai? Anyone?

Man behind curtain: “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! LOOK! Over there! It’s a poor family whose kid needs to see a doctor! THEY are the cause of all our financial problems!”

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Have our cake and eat it too! That is what we, as a country, decided we could do during the Reagan administration. We decided that it was OK to cut taxes but not cut spending. And we have done that every year
since, cut taxes and increase spending. The money to pay for the tax cuts and the increased spending would come from some vaporous pie in the sky. But we had more money in our pockets to help pay the interest on our credit cards. And that made it OK.

Lets see, if I remember correctly, the idea was if we cut taxes, people with a lot of money would create/expand businesses, more people would work for higher wages/salaries, pay more taxes, and the deficit would disappear. So that is what we decided to do. And we did it.

But no one thought that those people with a lot of money would use the tax savings and move companies and plants to locations in other countries. But that is what happened isn’t it? Move production to Mexico, Indonesia, India & China. And US citizens working for higher wages/salaries? Actually the opposite happened. Wages/salaries for the vast majority flattened and then decreased. Not for everyone, but for most.

The bottom line? Well, in January 1981 when Reagan was sworn in as the
40th president, the national debt was $934 billion. Today, January 26, 2010 the national debt is $12.3 trillion.

So our experiment in cutting taxes and increasing spending failed.
Failed miserably.

Now we have 75% of the electorate up in arms wanting something done about the increasing debt. What to do, what to do? I know! Lets get rid of those who got us into this mess. We will vote out those who cut taxes and increased spending and replace them with people who will cut taxes and increase spending. See this is so simple.

My apology for the length of this but the soapbox was there & I have 28 years of frustration built up.

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By freezing the budget in 2011, it appears that with the extra deficits imposed by a possible healthcare “reform” and all the other grand spending schemes, seems there will not be much discretionary spending – most will go to debt maintenance.

The plan to help the middle class is laughable at best and shows the skewed view this administration has of what the middle class needs.

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thomas

equal pay for women does not help people?
curbing emissions does not help people?

let’s go back to your original statement shall we. posted in it’s entirety so as to prevent “out of context” accusations:

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Why are you all calling for the republicans to do something?

Democrats had the house, senate and oval office all under their control and all they did was pass a stimulus bill that as of yet has provided little relief and tried to pass other numerous spending bills, with little success.

You had 60 votes and a super majority. Anything you wanted to do you could have, except you allowed the far left factions to control what was done and weild their power with a no give attitude.

So please save the republican party of no and any other request of republicans until you are able to honestly acknowledfge the failure to produce anything in the 12 months and 5 days since gaining total control of the government.

But the GOP does make a good boogie man scapegoat.
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This is what you wrote and it remains disingenous. Any attempt to qualify your statement after the fact is too.

Oh, and I and economists from both sides of the political divide would disagree that he has not impacted the economy signifigantly. Another 9 minute project for you.

Best Wishes.

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AJC readers::::::Beward of ELLIE LIGHT…….she is on the move for the White House…as a member of the Obama propaganda machine.

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ELLIE LIGHT::::::::::::Where are you today…Reveal yourself..Come out of the closet…….Elllie Light

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Obama is truly an embicile. What does that say about those who continue to try and justify his every dumb idea? How did you feel about your brilliant leader when he used his teleprompter to speak to a grade school classroom last week? That sets a presidential low not seen since old Jimmy Carter. Hopefully, we can survive the remaining three years of this clown’s term in office. How’s that “hope and change” working for you? Enjoy your tax increases.

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“You are confusing welfare (about 1 or 2 percent of the budget) with entitlements like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, which along with interest will consume the entire revenue of the U.S. government in a few years.”

You’re right. I suppose I didn’t think anyone was insane enough to propose doing away with those programs altogether.

There is no private pension program in this country anymore. There is only defined contribution plans and even they aren’t universal. And they are drastically underfunded. If we were to do away with Social Security, we’d be totally screwed.

Medicare is a tougher nut to crack, but Social Security can be “fixed” simply by raising the retirment age to 70 and lifting the cap to 200,000 from 100,000. Done and done.

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First Sergeant, 10:03,

You nailed it.

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Not only do we overpay military contractors many are not even worthy to serve in the armed services some have dishonorable discharges.

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Well, seems to me there’s only one thing that can take care of this budget mess. Forget freezing spending. What we need is another big Tax Cut.

All the real smart Republicans say that the more you cut taxes the more income the guvmint takes in. So let’s just get rid of all the taxes. The guvmint will be rolling in so much money it’ll need a bulldozer to shove it out the door and into peoples hands.

That’s my opinion and old Grover and all the other Republicans say it’s true. Have a good day everybody.

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Really, Granny

When does that act go into effect? Cause my wife and most her friends still make less.

BTW just because you say so does not make something disingenous, I know its hard for us all too.

Not all economist and any representaion is nothing short of a lie, something you would never do.

How is that over 10% unemployment doing?

We won’t agree you are uncaple of admitting fault by Obama, as I know you put alot of you personally at stake during the campaign. Its tough saying i’m wrong.

And me i am for limited government. I feel if you want to succedd there is nothing STOPPING any of us or any American citizen from success, except ourselves.

Its easy to blame others for our faults and that is why we will most likely forever disagree, and i will not be bullied as you have so many others here.

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FrankLeeDarling

Seen this on contractors?

Not Few. Not Proud

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/01/not_few_not_proud.php?ref=fpblg

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“jCon, reagan tripled the national debt to pay for those wonderful tax cuts, just like Bush 1 and Bush 2…why is the debt/deficit only an issue when a democrat is in office?”

I would be interested to read your answer to this question as well.

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Granny, you too and best luck w/ grandbaby.

I hope its for limited gov. though!

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“Obama is truly an embicile”

If you’re going to call someone an imbecile…it’s a good idea to be sure you know how to spell it first. Otherwise, you know, someone might think YOU are an imbecile.

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” * OpenLeft: “This is Bush-style idiocy.”
* Americablog: “I guess Evan Bayh and Ben Nelson will think it’s a good idea.”
* 538: “…on par with John McCain’s “suspending my campaign” gaffe.”
* Orange Satan: “…unalloyed idiocy.”
* MyDD: “Barack Obama may as well hold up a big sign that says, “I want Democrats to lose Congress.”
* Atrios: “We are ruled by idiots.”
* DeLong: “…a perfect example of the fundamental unseriousness of Barack Obama and his administration.”
* Digby: “We are all neo-Hooverists now.”
* Yglesias: “I suspect this initiative was deliberately leaked to progressive bloggers in an effort to get denounced by the left and I don’t want to give them the satisfaction.”

Jay does not get the memos?

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“So why not let ALL state decide the Health Care issue for the members of its own state?”

Thats just good common sense! But no…the dims and Barry want to force HCare on everyone. Let them continue to try as it will seal their fate. And even if OboboCare were to pass there are any number of State Attorneys General ready to file lawsuits. Smart policitians will move away from this OboboCare debacle and possibly save their careers.

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“Obama bashing continues it crescendo but can someone please tell me what the republican plan is besides saying no?”

As near as I can tell, there isn’t one.

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Jay does not get the memos?

Alas, Jay’s never been a dirty effing hippie.

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**Then they held secret meeting to make their lil deals, so how would you or any elected democrats know what any republican ideas are**

We know what their idea is tax cuts! See how well that worked out.

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It’s as if we have created a monster called big government spending and now we are unable to bring it under control. The monster now has a mind of it’s own with a focus on destroying us. Bringing down the monster ,although not out of the realm of possibility, is highly unlikely. The monster has grown extremely large and has unseen momentum in it’s quest to bring down the greatest country on this planet. Will the destruction of America happen without firing a single shot? Our children could face unimaginable hardships at the hands of this monster if it is not brought under control. The collapse of our government and society will result in immense lawlessness, extreme panic, and widespread death which will be of biblical proportion. Perhaps our demise is foretold because we have determined the identity of our greatest enemy.We now see it as a reflection in our mirror. Should we not all do our part to destroy the monster, then may God help us all.

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Great link GG,coked out alcoholic losers getting paid from taxpayer money, sounds like a certain ex president.
Meanwhile I have friends in Afghanistan welding scrap to their vehicles while these scumbags drive by in multimillion dollar vehicles.

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“So why not let ALL state decide the Health Care issue for the members of its own state?”

Funny, I do believe that falls under the Constitution? Maybe? Oh yeah, that nifty little 10th Amendment! In case you are not familiar, here ya go:

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Of course, that only means something if you respect the Constitution as it was framed…but then again, this amendment in particular gets peed on a lot, by both major parties.

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GOP Healthcare plan here

http://www.gop.gov/solutions/healthcare

CBO score on GOP Healthcare Plan

http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10705/hr3962amendmentBoehner.pdf

Posted without comment…..

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lmno

January 26th, 2010
9:36 am
“My taxes are low? How in the world would you know? You pay as much as you want, there, homey. I’m tired of working 65 hours a week to watch 40% of my income dissappear into Federal smoke.”

I wrote that your income taxes are low comparatively to historic levels in this country.

Really?

The HIGHEST marginal tax bracket in this country is currently 35%, so I assume you are adding sales, property, and state income tax to your 40% rate you quote.

You can “assume” anything you want. You have no knowledge whatsoever of my tax burden. Your job at the drive-thru at Wendy’s means you probably don’t pay ANY federal income taxes. But you act like you’ve been appointed as the spokesman for the taxcode. We already have one tax-cheat/moron doing that job; his name is Charlie Rangle.

And this ain’t 1955, in case you hadn’t noticed. See what happens when you assume?

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Line Item Veto…the only true way to prove you are serious about cutting spending. Anything else is political conjecture and window dressing from both sides of the aisle.

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Line Item Veto…Absolutely!

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GG, 10:32,

I read them both. Now I’m nauseous as hell.

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As for entitlements, they should never be cut but strengthened. Full retirement benefits for social security and medicare at 62.5.

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Looks like the republican plan sucks GG,I hope they have something better than that,I had to hold my nose just to read it.

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Mick,

How you wantin to pay for that?

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the only taxes that are getting raised are on the wealthy, the rest of us are getting nice tax cuts. hell i paid the lowest amount in 10 years last march, i’m sure this year will be even lower. if the wealthy need to pay a little more for now, so be it. i’d rather the middle calls gets some relief than the upper class. i mean who needs it more?

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No HCare revisions as any govt attempt at “bettering” things will result in yet another captiol hill failure by our elected theives and con-artsits.

These guys, Rep and Dim, are so out of touch its beginning to become scary.

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AmVet, do you really have any integrity at all when it comes to trying to prove your point? The article you quoted was from 1996. I believe that the man in charge then was a democrat.

However, here are some more recent statistics for you: The top 1% of earners pay 21.20% of all taxes paid at an average rate of 24%, the top 2 – 5% of earners pay 14.55% of all taxes at an average of 18% (Top 5% pay @36% of all tax) The bottom 50% pay 3% of all tax collected at an average rate of 2.98%.

So get off of this soak the rich soapbox you have been on ad nauseum. You are already soaking them.

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getalife

January 26th, 2010
10:43 am

Great article.

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Barry is goin down in flames!!

How many of you Obama voters are experiencing “buyers remorse”?

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Total public debt outstanding Jan. 22 $12,302,465

That is 12 trillion from the AP.

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Yes that republican proposal is horrible.

-Who wants a guareentee of insurance regardless of prior conditions. Not me!
-Who would want Lower premiums a reduction of 7-15% according to the CBO? Not Me!
-Allowing dependants to stay on insurance after 25? Not Me!
-Pooling small business together to achieve a lower premium? Not Me!
-Cutting spending by 49 million and increasing revenue by 27 million? Not me!
-Requirements that the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) adopt
and regularly update standards for electronic administrative transactions that
enable electronic funds transfers, claims management processes, and
verification of eligibility, among other administrative tasks. Those provisions
would result in about $6 billion in federal savings in Medicaid. In addition,
those standards would result in an increase in revenues of about $13 billion
as an indirect effect of reducing the costs of private health insurance plans? Not Me!

And here all this time I thought republicans were ONLY proposing to cut taxes?

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So obama triples spending in 6 months, add 10% to the total national debt, and now he’s saying ooops?! Seems obama is doing a lot of back peddaling lately. We have a 3/4 billion dollar stimulus that did jack monkey for the economy most of what has been released has been wasted, We have 0ver 10% unemployment, and a dollar that envious of the cuban peso….Now he figures out it’s all mistake and now he wants to cut spending? Shouldn’t the spending cuts been done first?

So here it is I am going to say it….TOLD YA! You can’t spend your way out of a recession. The concept defies all logic.

We took 768 billion dollars and gave it to coperate execs and other government beaurocrats, look how swell that worked. You you want these blithering morons to be in charge of your health?

We owe the people of MA a debt of gratitude.

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So Obama wants to freeze spending? Wow. Just goes to show ya that even in a barn full of horse poop there’s often a shiny new pony.

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Outhouse at 10:53, I’m man enough to cop to the truth. I like him, but he hasn’t fought as hard as I wanted for the things that matter, IMO. I’m willing to give him more time (retardo-boy stuttered at us for 8 years, so I’ve learned patience), but I will have buyer’s remorse if we come away w/o serious healthcare reform, w/o REAL equality for our gay citizens, and still entrenched in two wars with no real mission.

BTW, the President will earn serious points with me when he calls Senator McCain into his office and demands to know what he meant by “I can get Bin Laden. I know how to get Bin Laden. I will deliver Bin Laden,” and why the good patriotic senator hasn’t come forward with that information before now.

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Outhouse, considering the alternative i’m still okay with my decision. hell mccain may have dropped dead by now (not that i’m hoping for it) and imagine where that would have left us…scary thought.

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“How many of you Obama voters are experiencing “buyers remorse”?”

Not me, I was never fooled.

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Mick, at 11:02, that it does. ACK!

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This Obama-Mess will linger for years to come with a policital backlash of huge proportions. What a great time to go underground and save some greenbacks!! 3 years underground will net your friend, Outhouse GoKart, enough liquidity to emerge and purchase YOUR foreclosed house with a 65 to 85% downpayment!!

Please let your mental images/wavelengths be only positive when praying for your friend, Outhouse GoKart, and his future successes. Perhaps I might even rent you a room! What a GREAT opporutunity!!

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I agree Mick we may still be on the titanic but at least we avoided the Mccain /Palin iceberg

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I will agree, in that, McCain/Palin wasnt much of an alternative.

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Sam, sam…My spelling does suck. I don’t need clues, the back pedaling by this administration is proof I was right all along, I don’t need your approval, the facts speak for themselves.

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Herein lies the need to have people with experience running businesses in office. Hard decisions need to be made concerning where to cut the budget. Career politicians (Dems & Reps) will not make those decisions. They either don’t have the necessary business knowledge, or the cajones to do the job.

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Hey, maybe Joe the Biden was right after all. He said the election was about one three (that’s right THREE) letter word….jobs! J – O – B – S.

And you guys are still calling Palin dumb?

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What we need is someone with some guts, some backbone, some morals, some character like Hopalong Cassidy!

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Or maybe Flavor-Flav!

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“And you guys are still calling Palin dumb?”

Jimmy, it’s all they have. Palin is sitting pretty, making millions of dollars, appears on FOX with O’Reilly, who is destroying others with his ratings, and yet…………..liberals call her stupid.

Here is a great example of stupid:

Ed Shultz. He gets on his radio program, encourages democrat voters to cheat…………..and has to apologize for it.

THAT is stupid!

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The current deficits are relatively low, compared to GDP and the National Debt, relative to GDP is getting close to being the lowest in history..

The stock market has reached pre recession levels and of course because unemployment is a lagging indicator, it follows the stock market. By about a year. Unemployment will start easing off late 2010/Early 2011.

Of course unless a sudden attempt to return to the folly of conservatism sends the U.S. into a second recessionary spiral, as occurred in the 1930’s when the courts forced FDR to stop his New Deal spending. This sent the economy back downward.

History repeats itself,. first as tragedy, then as farce.

Of course, because the rest of the world is far more liberal, the recession is over, everyplace but the United States. Next year, growth in GDP outside of the U.S. is slated to be 3.9 percent, the highest since the 1950’s-60’s. Thats because they actually threw the recommended amount of money at the problem through deficit spending.

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The reason liberals hate rich people is because they themselves are not smart enough to make their own money in the real world.

Hence: liberals work as baristas, green peace activists, acorn activists, fine arts professors………….

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“The current deficits are relatively low, compared to GDP and the National Debt, relative to GDP is getting close to being the lowest in history..”

Cool, give George W Bush credit for that………

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TaxPayer

January 26th, 2010
11:07 am
McCain/Palin represented the “best” of what the Republicans had to offer. Ewwwww.

Not sure the best the GOP had to offer. Seemed it was more of a response to the vilification of Bush and his admin. they tried to run conservative light and then McCain went with an over conservative to try and counter bad polling.

But it could have been their best they had.

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“Of course, because the rest of the world is far more liberal, the recession is over, everyplace but the United States.”

Yes, China, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea and Iran are all liberal.

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“Great point. I’ve always felt part of Reagan’s appeal in 1980 was the fact that Jimmy Carter was the incumbent seeking reelection.”

Yes, but the country was sick of Carter. Sort of like how things are with Obama right now.

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“The reason liberals hate rich people is because they themselves are not smart enough to make their own money in the real world.”

And might I add, most have a million flimsy excuses for just being plain lazy.

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LA

January 26th, 2010
11:17 am

My point exactly.

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Wow, finally some unadulterated wealth envy!

Keep tellin’ yourself that if it makes you feel better.

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“Keep tellin’ yourself that if it makes you feel better.”

We don’t have to. You do a great job at explaining that yourself.

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Sam January 26th, 2010 10:08 am
Jenifer January 26th, 2010 10:14 am
“jCon, reagan tripled the national debt to pay for those wonderful tax cuts, just like Bush 1 and Bush 2…why is the debt/deficit only an issue when a democrat is in office?”
I would be interested to read your answer to this question as well.”

Ok, here goes.

The debt/deficit is only an issue when democrats are in office because the Republicans complain when Democrats increase the debt/deficit and brag when they are in office and increase the debt/deficit. The Democrats never complain about the debt/deficit regardless of who is in office. But both, that’s “b-o-t-h”, increase the debt/deficit with no concern about who will pay for it. Both Republican & Democratic members of Congress and presidents have as a job description “get re-elected”, if I may borrow from Obama’s remarks yesterday.

Look, there was one period under Clinton & a Republican Congress when we actually balanced income and expenses. But we cut some discretionary spending, some entitlement programs and the military budget. But Bush 43 decided to send everyone a check from government, the money to come out of the “surplus”. You remember the surplus?
So we were immediately back in the deficit spending mode. And we have been there ever since.

Now we can balance the 2011 fiscal year budget. It is easy. Cut spending, including defense, including Medicare/Medicaid (delay the date of admission as Reagan did on Social Security) and cancel Obama’s fiscal year 2010 tax cuts from last March. That will balance the budget.

But will you vote for a senator or congressman who votes to cut those three programs?

You voters have sent the type people to Washington who vote for low taxes and increased spending. You have done it for 29 years. You are about to do it for the 30th year.

If it makes you feel good to blame the Democrats, go for it.
If it makes you feel good to blame the Republicans, go for it.
But, if you are at all honest, you will take a hard look at yourself.

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Until we get serious about changing retirement benefits to be a closer match to life expectancy, there’s nowhere to go but chaos and destruction.

You’ve got twelve years to draw Social Security, buster. Live longer than that and it’s either a death panel for you or you’re out on your a$$.”

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Not really. It is because Obama has reduced spending, overall relative to the Bush Administration’s spending, that is the reason for the rates dropping.

Next Bush hid so much of what he was spending by adding it as supplementals.

Finally, the moronic move to vote in a Republican from Massachusetts is most certainly going to send the economy back into recession, as occurred during the New Deal when the Supreme Court declared the New Deal unconstitutional. FDR ended the New Deal, started on “deficit reduction” and the economy spiraled back into recession.

This will of course, occur again, probably a recessionary spiral starting back downward in the second quarter 2010. Just in time to blame the Republicans

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“You can “assume” anything you want. You have no knowledge whatsoever of my tax burden. Your job at the drive-thru at Wendy’s means you probably don’t pay ANY federal income taxes. But you act like you’ve been appointed as the spokesman for the taxcode. ”

My job involves knowledge of the tax code. You can argue all you want, but there is not disputing that historically tax rates are incredibly low. You say I have no idea of what your tax burden is, but I DO KNOW what the tax burden is for every income level. I have it right here in front of me.

You say its not 1955 anymore. Well, of course its not. But you can use historical numbers to compare current numbers. THats the point I am making. If you look at the tax rates at any point in history since 1944, and compare them today, they are low.

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**Bottom line: Mitt should have been the nominee in 2008.**

Actually, if romney was on the ticket as VP, mccain might have ekked out a victory. Palin might have gotten him more repub votes but she lost the independents bigtime.

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I find It amusing that conservatives think liberals don’t make any money or own guns.

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Wow, finally some unadulterated wealth envy! Hey, you know some of that money you want the government to seize from the wealthy might actually be used to create jobs if you don’t. Besides, think of it this way – the more complex and “graduated” your tax code is, the more loopholes will be added. A flat tax (not my fave, I am a FairTax guy) would at least cut out the loopholes. But of course, my favorite FairTax would actually put the highest burden on the big spenders, the ones who want to show off their extravagant lifestyle. Isn’t that the way it should be?

Oh, and before you insinuate anything, I am middle class and racking up student loans to put my wife through grad school. I know it will be worth it in the end when she winds up making more than me!

I’d say that you are the one laying on the insinuations, not me. As for the FairTax™ that is the biggest scam to ever be put forth. It’s prebate scheme is nothing short of pure socialism since it will have the majority of the people hooked on their monthly fix from the government. Support it if you like but it will never ever amount to more than a cheap read and a few dollars in royalties for its creators.

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Yeah I guess as you can keep handing your debt off to other people…Isn’t that what got us into this mess?

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We can preach from the Good Book, sermon after sermon, and the dims will refuse to acknowledge or listen. I just sitting, toasting a few marshmallows, in the glow and heat of the implosion.

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Frank DL: “I find It amusing that conservatives think liberals don’t make any money or own guns.”

HAHAHA! That cracks me up all the time too.

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Sam

January 26th, 2010
11:33 am

Well, John Kerry was the democrat nominee in 2004.

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I am so tired of hearing this load of garbage from the misinformed. The budget defits under Reagan had NOTHING to do with the tax cuts. THE FACT IS that revenues INCREASED after the cuts…that’s right, the revenues INCREASED after the tax cuts. So if deficits went up then it must have been caused by something else. Now what could it be? Hmmmmmm, I believe that would be SPENDING INCREASES by the democrat CONGRESS. Study history a little before you start using that poisonous keyboard.

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Reagan sucked

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Sam,

Some economist say that the economy recovers and dips all on its own.

It would have been tough times for some, but it would have worked its way out of a recession. Then we the people would not have to deal with the inflation that follows spending ones way out of a recession.

Who’s for $2 cans of corn?

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Typical lib response.

I find that rather amusing, coming from Jimmy’s effigy.

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Actually they DO have something to do with recessions and depressions. Every CLASSICAL economist knows this.

Which is why the economy stayed completely stable in growth at 3.9 percent per year between 1950 and 1976.

Top marginal rates were used to CONTROL the business cycle, preventing them from occurring.

This is the ENTIRE basis of Keynesian economics, It worked, very well.

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And it would work WELL again if only conservative could be gotten out of the way of economic common sense.

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Thomas,

this was no dip my man…the financial system wouldve collapsed, it would have been anarchy in the streets and more than 40% unemployment if they’d done nothing…

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TaxPayer

January 26th, 2010
11:49 am

It’s telling that you find my post “amusing”, yet you fail to discredit anything I included in my post. Ah yes, Nero fiddled while Rome burned and he blamed it on the Christians. So THAT’S where the dems got their playbook.

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NJ @ 11:53

“Basically speaking, when you allow a businessman to suck money OUT of a business as personal income, they will do so. Rather than use it in ways that benefit the total economy, they use it in ways that benefit themselves personally.”

Smart business owners know this. But do you really think the government has any place forcing them to reinvest it? It is their business, if they do not treat it properly it will fail. See GM. Oh wait no we bailed them out. The biggest problem is when the government sees their profits and says “aha!” and tries to tax it from them before they can reinvest it. I am a firm believer in natural consequences, obey the Prime Directive! (OK, I admit I am a Trekkie!)

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**The Government CAUSED this recession.**

Let’s not forget the banks, real estate bubble, healthcare costs.

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I hate to break this to everyone, we , as a country , has been in debt since 1865, when the civil war ended.

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chuck, i agree with most of what you say but disagree with not spending way out of recession. hoover tried to ride out the great depression and it did not work, he waited and waited until it was too late. FDR’s aggressive spending worked..problem was these programs became permanent entitlements…doing nothing was not an option. imagine how many teachers, cops, prison guards, street department employees, etc would be out of work right now..that aside, i agree spending is way out of control..mainly in defense sector, healthcare costs need to be contined, unnecessary programs cut, etc….my family lives within our means, but as a counrty we’ve been programmed that its not necessary..that needs to change.

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Dave R @ 12:01

Those all sound good to me.

“Link Congress’ pay to performance. For every dollar reduced in spending, they get a percentage of that in pay, for every dollar of increased spending, they lose twice that percentage.”

I say cut their pay totally until they at least get a balanced budget…politics should not be a career. Sure they need food, shelter, and clothing. Hey, what’s good enough for our armed forces should suffice…

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Actually Sam, FDR’s spending DEEPENED the recession. World War II got us out of that one.

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yet you fail to discredit anything I included in my post. Ah yes, Nero fiddled while Rome burned and he blamed it on the Christians. So THAT’S where the dems got their playbook.

Failure is such a Republican concept. I did not “fail” to discredit anything that you posted. In fact, I just choose not to waste my time on a list of, well, junk. THere. I think I’ve wasted enough time explaining that to you, Jimmy’s effigy.

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Raise interest rates and taxes to solve the problem.

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No FDR did NOT prolong the Depression.>

The hucksters who created that used the data from a SINGLE YEAR, 1937 to come up with that PHONY argument.

FDR’s programs were KILLED in 1936, by CONSERVATIVES and the depression returned

Those are the FACTS. Not the bogus report created by two conservatives only looking at a SINGLE YEAR

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Dave R.,

i think the point is that those projects would be shut down if not for the stimulus money. also, think how much tax revenue would be generated right now through a consumption tax, answer not very much. we’d be in even bigger trouble than we already are.

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by the way Dave did you just finish reading The Revolution? sounds awfully familiar

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Off topic (WTH)and from The Navy Times…
Obama to make announcement on gay ban

By Rick Maze – Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Jan 26, 2010 10:24:23 EST

The announcement of congressional hearings on the ban on open military service by homosexuals has been delayed at the request of the Obama administration until after Wednesday night’s State of the Union Address because the president may announce that military leaders will support changing the law, according to a key lawmaker.

The Senate Armed Services Committee expects to have a series of hearings, one focusing on the views of military leaders, another on the views of outside witnesses and possibly panels of junior officers and noncommissioned officers, said Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., the committee chairman.

Levin said Monday that an announcement of the hearings has been delayed at the request of senior Defense Department officials until after President Obama’s speech. Levin said he does not know what Obama might say, but he expects it will be an announcement of the administration’s intentions.

Hearings were supposed to start with military leaders, Levin said, but he might change the order to get hearings underway if senior military officials need more time to prepare.

“I am willing to switch things up,” he said. “I am committed to starting the hearings in February.”

Having junior officers and noncommissioned officers and petty officers testify could be an important step in getting the policy changed, Levin said, especially because he believes there are “generational differences” in views about the presence of gays and lesbians in the ranks. Younger people are more likely to be accepting of a policy change than older people, Levin said.

Although Levin supports repealing the ban and the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy that derives from it, Rep. Ike Skelton, D-Mo., the House Armed Services Committee chairman, said he wants current restrictions to remain in force and will oppose efforts by the Obama administration to change the law that has existed since 1993.

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Then why did the US recover from great depression slower and after almost all other industrialized nations, if FDR did not prolong it.

Maybe lightened the suffering, but he certainly did not shorten it.

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Nope FDR got rid of the Depression.

The FIGURES do not lie:

Unemp.: Unemployment rate
Tax Federal GNP Unemp.
Year Receipts Spending Growth Rate
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1929 — — — 3.2% < Hoover era, Great Depression begins
1930 4.2% 3.4% – 9.4% 8.7
1931 3.7 4.3 – 8.5 15.9
1932 2.9 7.0 -13.4 23.6
1933 3.5 8.1 – 2.1 24.9 < FDR, New Deal begins; contraction ends March
1934 4.9 10.8 + 7.7 21.7
1935 5.3 9.3 + 8.1 20.1
1936 5.1 10.6 +14.1 16.9

1937 6.2 8.7 + 5.0 14.3 < recession begins, May
1938 7.7 7.8 – 4.5 19.0 < recession ends, June

1939 7.2 10.4 + 7.9 17.2
1940 6.9 9.9
1941 7.7 12.1
1942 10.3 24.8
1943 13.7 44.8
1944 21.7 45.3
1945 21.3 43.7

Simply put at NO time did either UNEMPLOYMENT OR RECESSION occur as a result of FDR.

Employment ROSE and GDP increased every year UNTIL the Republicans and Conservative Supreme Court KILLED the New Deal. Then it returned.

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So Jay why do you blame reagan for so much of our deficit if he did what you wanted and increased taxes?

Should he have decreased taxes?
Should Obama decrease taxes, or should he send us into further debt as you say reagan did?

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Simply PUT Republican Hoover’s policies resulted in a rate of almost 24 percent unemployment and an economy that contracted by almost 25 percent.

Both figures kept dropping EVERY YEAR under the New Deal, until conservatives cause it to stop.

Then the recession returned.

Then the New Deal was started UP again, and both unemployment started dropping and the GDP started growing again.

Simple. The figures do not lie.

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Oh I’ll take NJ’s word over two economists!!! LOL! You are perhaps the most delusional person I have ever seen… The facts don’t lie The depression lasted until we joined WW2, FDR increased debt and didn’t do a thing to get out of the depression….The difference is he didn’t have a failed precedence to fall on….

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When an absolute fact such as Jay’s 12:16 is read by the ‘conservatives’ on this blog…

I sincerely wonder what kind of synaptic convulsions must occur in order for an otherwise intellgent person to simply choose to believe something entirely different (and demonstrably false).

After all, this is a cold, hard fact…not something conjured up by any partisan analysis.

Can anyone explain…

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…. revenues increased ONLY because Reagan signed a major tax increase in 1982 AND another one in 1983. In fact, according to a U.S. Treasury analysis, the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 signed by Reagan was the biggest tax increase of the last 40 years.

Fact.

Jay, you debunk this two to three times a week. The only thing that changes is the name at the front of your statement.

Do your detractors even read your pieces or are they here to throw “no” bombs?

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Thomas: “Then why did the US recover from great depression slower and after almost all other industrialized nations, if FDR did not prolong it.”

It was before my time, but I’m guessing that a climate condition known as the “dust bowl” was one serious non-political factor in the depth and length of the US depression of the 1930s.

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Well, there it is…the most reliable of the ‘conservatives’ has provided a cherry-picked list from a partisan analysis that ignores the total picture…

Should have known…

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As a Yellow Dog voter andmember of the Democratic Party I say increase taxes on the banks, the crooked insurance comapnies, the pharmaceutical companies and any corporation that moves its headquarters offshore or move jobs offshore. People in this country needs to stand up to the crooked corporations. I have clients who are planning to move their corpoations to overseas locations to avoid paying Income Taxes to the Internal Revenue Service and the georgia Department of Revenue. We need to have the federal govenrment changed the laws so that any corporations that has this opportunity to avoid paying Income Taxes is stopped dead in their tracks.
people need to immediately start studying Title 26 of the United States Code. The Title 26 is the Internal Revenue Code of the United states Code of federal law. It is essential that everyone study Title 26 so that they better understanding of the Internal Revenue Code and how corporations can get over on the people. If you study the Title 26 you wiil see that the way to stioop the corporation from getting over on you is toforce them by federal statue to stay here in the United States of Amerika.
The crooked banks, insurance companies and the Pharmaceutical companies have loopholes built into the federal and state laws that we as citizens have to stop. We all must supoport President and First Lady Mr. and Mrs. Barack Hussein and Michelle Obama as they clean up the mess that the filthy Republicans created under Bush the Younger (2001-2009). If we stand together we can defeat the evil corporations and the Tea bag racists. Remember it Good versus Evil and God is on our side. Encourage every Democratic voter to vote and we can save this racist country from the filthy rich corporations.

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woops should have been loosening, not loosing.

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for every 1 professor who say FDR didnt get us out of great depression there are 1,000 economists that say he did…

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Because FDR did NOT spend enough. The OTHER industrialized nations started listening to Keynes early on and put about 40-50 percent of GDP into deficit spending. FDR barely got to ten percent between 1933 and 1939 and only went up to 43 percent during WWII.

This is a VALIDATION of Deficit spending.

Sweden got out in 18 months because the government spent 48 percent of GDP in “stimulus” money. The British came out second spending almost as much.

FDR was TOO MUCH the fiscal conservative, his entire idea when he was elected was “eliminate the deficit” and the economy would recover. He did this for the first 18 months. The New Deal ran completely on BUDGET for the first two years. Finally when he decided to go into DEFICIT spending, the Supreme Court nailed him and stopped it. So the economy went BACK into recession again.

Only the HUGE deficit spending that occurred after WWII started in 1939 ended the depression.

Republicans always claim it was WWII that ended the Depression but who the hell do you think was PAYING for all that war material. The U.S. Government, by going into DEEP deficit spending.

It does NOT matter what the government is spending on that causes the DEFICIT SPENDING as long as American businesses are being retooled from civilian manufacturing to wartime manufacturing.,

When the GOVERNMENT started spending 43 percent of GDP, the depression ENDED.

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**That’s why this is so inexcusably insidious**

This is exactly the wrong kind of course correction needed. Millions out of work with infrastucture falling apart, we need a WPA so these people can earn a paycheck and gain some dignity.

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not sure Dave but i think it was Ron Paul’s first book..it was interesting. i dont agree with them all but he’s got some interesting ideas

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Again those are the facts. WWII resulted in a HUGE amount of deficit spending. American businesses were retooled to make tanks instead of station wagons. About 80 percent of American businesses were being PAID by the government for what they were making. The WWII fueled recovery was STILL the result of a huge amount of DEFICIT spending.

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NJ,

If I owed say 800 bucks on a visa credit card are you then saying it would be wise to pay off my visa bill with a mastercard?

Is that my best solution for getting out of debt?

Or should i cut back on non essential spending unti I can pay off the 800 with my existing income?

Which one will be a better long term solution?

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**If I owed say 800 bucks on a visa credit card are you then saying it would be wise to pay off my visa bill with a mastercard?**

You could try to find a card with 0% interest for a year and pay it off. Thanks chase.

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NJ,

You know me. I have not been hurt.

Actually make more money now than when the recession started.

Guess i should thank Obama.

Thats right I take full responsibility for my own success or failure. So never mind.

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In fact if I was an accountant, this recession could NEVER have occurred.

Because Keynesian economists PREDICTED this recession back in 2003.

The money that was invested in those “subprime” loans did not appear by magic.

They were the result of the Bush Tax cuts.

The stock market sucked during Bush’s first two years. The rich went looking for someplace to invest their tax savings given by Bush. They went RIGHT for the speculative derivatives markets.

And fueled the recession.

Tax cuts to the wealthy are NEVER used to start new businesses or create jobs.

Every reduction in top marginal tax rates since the creation of the Income Tax in 1913 has fueled a speculative market resulting in a market bubble and a recession or depression that followed.

The ONLY way to prevent such speculation is to tax those earning a huge amount at a high enough rate to prevent a speculative bubble from emerging.

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Here’s a LARGE step. ONLY fund what’s in the constitution and require a SIXTY vote majority to raise any taxes.

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Mick,

Not enough credit for me built up yet. Only 28 and had some stupid spending during college.

But hey, could always fill out and application for the card.

and I guess we could ask China for more money, doesn’t me I or we will be getting any money or card though.

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Kam,

Was the quote “Always know where your weapons and pants are in the dark” a Lazarus Long quote or was that something my Chief told me a long time ago…

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SImply put

1922-1925, three tax cuts reduce the top rate from 71 percent to 25 percent. The stock market goes crazily up and up for the next three years. Every stock is overvalued. A market correction fixes that. And kicks off the Great Depression.

1983. Reagan cuts the top marginal tax rates from 70 percent to 28 percent. Investment in “derivative” REIT’s becomes the rage. The market crashes, recession.

Next the George Bush Tax cuts gives the wealthiest two percent a trillion dollars to invest speculatively. In mortgage backed securities. Which starts driving prices of houses beyond any value that they could inherently have. A speculative bubble.

The exact amount of the losses in the markets that kicked off the current mess.

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Normal

One of my favs.

I’ve never understood how God could expect His creatures to pick the one true religion by faith—it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.
-Jubal Harshaw, Stranger in a Strange Land

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**Mick, it is not the job of government to allow people to “gain some dignity”.**

I’m not talking about a handout – I’m talking about working and getting paid. I’ve been there and its depressing. I’d just as soon shovel caca then doing nothing. The point is there are millions who need work and with an infrastucture that is crumbling, any job is better than none until the economy picks up.

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Ok, so if speding like a drunk horny sailor in Thailand is such a good idea why is obama talking about spending cuts?!

Oh I know, because his policies are failing, that’s why.

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Wonder if corporate took over to default on the debt?

Yikes!

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People…we are looking at a $1.35 TRILLION deficit on next year’s budget and at least $1 TRILLION for the rest of the decade…earmarks will go part of the way but not near enough. Two thirds of the budget, which was $3.1 TRILLION, goes to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid/SCHIP, unemployment, and interest on the national debt. If you people honestly think that any congressman, Democrat or Republican, is going to stand in front of the American people and campaign on eliminating these programs, I want what you’re smoking. The people clearly want the safety net these programs offer though they have no choice but to swallow the interest we pay for borrowing. It’s time to pay the piper but of course we’re not going to until one these programs slips into the red…let’s see Social Security will hit the fan by 2018 (8 years, 2 presidential terms) and Medicare will hit the fan not long after. Here’s the simplistic choices: Keep the programs and let partisanship kill any reforms and wait and see what happens, eliminate the programs entirely (good luck again with a politician proposes that one), or some balance of the first two (again highly unlikely due to partisanship). What will probably happen is the programs run out of money and then are dropped entirely and a whole bunch of people will have given a significant percentage of their incomes to programs that they will not be able to utilize.

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“End of argument.”

I’ll decide when the argument ends.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703906204575026942464525862.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEADNewsCollection

Wanna know how to fix this!!! Spend more!!! LOL!

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If you start a SMALL business, do you start out in the BLACK.

No, you are essentially DEFICIT spending for the first few years before you turn a profit.

Most BUSINESSES start operating by paying off their Mastercard using a Visa.

This is always the case. The idea that what applies to BUSINESS does not apply to government is absurd.

And often times the only way to keep a BUSINESS economy afloat is to BORROW until the economy reignites.

This is OF COURSE how the Great Depression ended. The GOVERNMENT funded half of the entire economy until it reignited.

This is why Republicans have ALWAYS created a national debt that is a larger percentage of the GDP than Democrats. Democrat deficits tend to create economic stimuluses that a distributed through the ENTIRE economy while Republicans only benefit the top two percent. Which it asserts will “trickle down”

But which NEVER does.

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**let’s see Social Security will hit the fan by 2018 (8 years, 2 presidential terms)**

Incorrect, I believe social security is projected to be solvent until 2048. This can be easily fixed by raising the cap in SS tax to 150k or thereabouts.

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Always keep your clothes and your weapons where you can find them in the dark.

Is attributed to Heinlein, but I don’t know which of his characters voiced it.

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Even more SIMPLY put. Every bit of SOCIAL spending done by the government gets back into the U.S. DOMESTIC economy. The HUGE defense budget has a NEGATIVE domestic economic effect. About 12 percent of GDP is spent on defense, to create an industry that makes up SIX PERCENT of GDP

Thats a fifty percent LOSS.

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NJ

Do you even realize that America hates the democrat party more than republicans?

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NJ

You’ve done marvelous work here this morning and I applaud you.

I am always dismayed at how wrong people can be and how proud of it they are.

I spent my morning putting the W’s back on the White House keyboards and
am going to spend my afternoon playing hide the WMD’s.

Thanks NJ.

Jocularity! Jocularity!

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NJ

The stimulus package failed. Obama’s policies have failed. His health care plan, or should I say lack of one, failed.

What’s the one word that describes Obama?

Fail

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Check it out. Even FORBES notices this.

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

The LOWEST ratio of National Debt to GDP since the end of WWII occurred under Carter.

Reagan and Bush 41 it spiraled upwards.

Clinton dropped it. Bush 43 increased it. Obama has inherited a huge Bush created debt, but unlike Clinton has not been able to take the advice of the GAO. Which is to RAISE TAXES.

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“The LOWEST ratio of National Debt to GDP since the end of WWII occurred under Carter.”

LOLOLOLOL

Yep, that Carter was soooooooooooooome president!

That MUST be why he only served one term.

“Reagan and Bush 41 it spiraled upwards.”

LOLOL

Yep, the evil republicans put us in massive debt.

NJ is one mixed up bag of nuts.

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“I think NJ is a Democrat apologist.”

YA THINK!!!!!!!!!!

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Nope.

The recession is the result of eight years of Republican ideas. Did not start under Obama.

The idea that returning to those same ideas as a solution to REPAIR it is an absurdity.

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Doesnt matter…Obama owns it!!

He campaigned on transparency, C-Span HCare debate and a whole host of things on which he has fallen short.

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NJ, dont forget, as soon as bush left office his legacy evaporated. its as if he was never president. we should all have been so lucky.

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“The recession is the result of eight years of Republican ideas. Did not start under Obama.”

The recession did not start until the final months of Bush’s. Bush had a democrat controlled house and senate.

Again, partisan hack much?

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This was NOT the only Bush Tax cut. The corporate tax cuts resulted in another 2.9 trillion in government borrowing to give tax cuts to the wealthiest. The net cost of Bush Tax cuts was about 5 trillion dollars.

To the $3 trillion in government debt was thus added $6 trillion in household mortgage debt, $8 trillion in banking debt, another $1 trillion in new consumer credit card debt, and $3.5 trillion in additional non-financial business debt. That’s a total of more than $21 trillion in accumulated debt of various kinds over the course of Bush’s terms in office—or a stack of $500 bills 3,297 miles high, extending roughly the distance from New York City to London.

http://www.zmag.org/zmag/viewArticle/19319

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NJ

Do you realize that every single democrat in congress is rich?

Do you realize that these idiots have made their money off of ignorant people like you?

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You dims can blame Bush forever and it simply will not change the fact that Obama owns this mess. Its his.

Obama is the one touting change and he would elimiate the spending spree, close gitmo, clean up DC, bring home the troops etc.

Obama OWNS IT!!

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Well, people need to stop using the d-work about LA. Even if he is one. He just gets too upset and we get about 300 posts from him and we never get back on the topic.

Use the p-word. He’ll feel better and we’ll be fine.

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the final months of Bush term?

to quote you….LOL LOL LOL LOL

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Reality….. It was a Democratically controlled congress who approved the two largest deficit spends under Bush. And all the supplus under Clinton was from Republican controlled budgets. And in the vain of never let facts get in the way. Go look at the CBO website and you will see the deficit grew every single year under Clinton, only in Washington can that be called deficit reduction.
If Bush has to take the fall for 9-11 and the small recession left by Clinton and Gore, than Obama has to take the heat for what Bush left. If there is going to be only one set of rules they have to apply to both parties.

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““All Obama needs to do is wait for the Republican obstruction to cause the recession to start coming back, full force. Which will occur by the end of this summer, latest.””

LOL. Can you tell me how GOP “obstructionism” will cause a recession? That should be good for a laugh.

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as soon as bush left office his legacy evaporated. its as if he was never president.

He began being disappeared, officially, at the 2008 Republican convention.

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Redneck Convert (R–and proud of it)

Hey, I saw you in “Deliverance” the other day. Turner Classic had it on. It must have sucked when Burt Reynolds shot you with his bow.

But hey, your famous “squeal like a pig” line was classic!

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Granny –

“the final months of Bush term?”

Well that is accurate. What is funny?

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making pig jokes, cause that’s all he’s got?

LOL LOL LOL

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“i prefer d bag..”

I’m sure you do.

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information impaired….damn i got that right

lol lol lol

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sfb –

“He began being disappeared, officially, at the 2008 Republican convention.”

Well actually his, poll numbers have been improving since that time. Not as rapidly as Cheney’s, but still.

It is Obama who has been on a steady decline. I know that you don’t like to let reality interfere with one of your bleats, but thought you should know what is going on here on earth.

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Kamchak

January 26th, 2010
1:06 pm

I thought so and I always thought it was very good advice…

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Jay, all of these look like TAX CUTS to me.

Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981 C phased-in 23% cut in individual tax rates; top rate dropped from 70% to 50% C accelerated depreciation deductions; replaced depreciation system with ACRS C indexed individual income tax parameters (beginning in 1985) C created 10% exclusion on income for two-earner married couples ($3,000 cap) C phased-in increase in estate tax exemption from $175,625 to $600,000 in 1987 C reduced Windfall Profit taxes C allowed all working taxpayers to establish IRAs C expanded provisions for employee stock ownership plans (ESOPs) C replaced $200 interest exclusion with 15% net interest exclusion ($900 cap) (begin in 1985)

As for the impact of these increases, according to the table at the end of the article, the 2 bills mentioned had an impact of only about 40 billion dollars over 4 YEARS, or about 10 billion a year. I would not call these the end all be all of the revenue increase that occurred. Additionally, these are based on Treasury Department ESTIMATES. What that means is that the bills could have had a negative impact on revenue. What if those tax increases actually kept the revenues from increasing MORE? All we know for SURE is that revenues increased after the marginal rates were reduced. FACT.

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Well actually his, poll numbers have been improving since that time.

I’m not discussing poll numbers, mike. If I were I would have begun the timeline around “ah’ve got political capital and ah’m gone spend it.”

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george bush laugh

lol lol lol

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“Reality….. It was a Democratically controlled congress who approved the two largest deficit spends under Bush.”

HUMP…Day it is!

The double dip recession will most likely occur and this too will land at the doorstep of the annointed one, Barry Obama, his cronies and the dimocrats. Get ready….

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Fox was ranked 3rd in total day.

Came in behind Nickelodeon again, did they?

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george bush laugh

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how you treat me….

lol lol lol

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Hillary went off on France and Italy for their criticism of the Haiti rescue.

Yes she did! She’s still standing up for the United States of America in spite of the nasty things many of you said about her and the blatant sexism that still reigns here. She could have retired to a life of shopping, planning her daughter’s wedding, and using gardners & pool boys to get even, but she’s in there fighting for our interests and defending our good name.

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sfb –

“Came in behind Nickelodeon again, did they?”

And far, far ahead of the folks who spout the ideology that you support and that the American people regularly reject.

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Allow the Bush tax cuts to cease? Good idea!

Then the people who have money will spend even less. Ya…good idea!

Keep em coming!

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“Yes she did! She’s still standing up for the United States of America”

She offered to give them all a piece of her large backside as a meal.

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Perhaps the liberals are in rare form today because of the news that President Obama has abandoned them. Left them standing holding the pork…that stuff gets greasy after a while!

Oh, and Sam…
who the hell cares about the Democrats’ poll numbers? do they work for the American people?
wait, aren’t they supposed to?

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LA, you are not even remotely funny you realize that right? actually your sense of humor is a lot like ‘the midget’ sean hannity…maybe you do work for fox after all…

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Well, this should piss off liberals even more.

Not this one–mainly because I don’t need a poll to tell me where to get my information. You, however, post many polls daily. That suggests to me that you seek validation of your opinion based on a majority.

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“She could have retired to a life of shopping, planning her daughter’s wedding, and using gardners & pool boys to get even,”

Tood bad she didnt. Her rhetoric is about as effective as the kenyans.

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“Not this one–mainly because I don’t need a poll to tell me where to get my information.”

Really, then why are liberals always talking about them? OHHHHH, that’s right, they only show them when a poll favors them……..

“You, however, post many polls daily.”

Show me one poll that I’ve posted today.

“That suggests to me that you seek validation of your opinion based on a majority.”

Nope, I post articles just to piss off liberals. And from your comment, it’s working just as planned.

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What ever will I do?????????? I know! You can offer them, as a meal, a portion of your very large um….. OH…. never mind. Heh. How thoughtless of me to make a size reference. So sorry.

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The entire national debt attributed to Reagan and Bush 41/43 is well over 11 trillion.

Jimmy Carter. National Debt dropped by 3.2%

Clinton, first term dropped by 0.6%
Clinton second term dropped by 8.2%

By tenure, the largest increases in gross debt relative to GDP occurred under George H.W. Bush (+13.1%), George W. Bush (+18.1%), and Ronald Reagan (+20.5%).

But lets do some comparisons by GDP

Carter national debt is 32.6% of GDP

Reagan first term 43.9% of GDP

Reagan second term 53.1% of GDP

George HW Bush 66.2% of GDP

Bill Clinton first term it drops to 65.6%

Bill Clinton second term it drops to 57.4%

George W Bush, first term, it INCREASES to 64.3%

George W Bush second term it INCREASES TO: 75.5%

This is what Obama starts with a national debt that is 75.5 percent of GDP.

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(how does he do this all day its so boring?) oh and lol lol lol(how does he do this all day its so boring?) oh and lol lol lol(how does he do this all day its so boring?) oh and lol lol lol(how does he do this all day its so boring?) oh and lol lol lol(how does he do this all day its so boring?) oh and lol lol lol(how does he do this all day its so boring?) oh and lol lol lol(how does he do this all day its so boring?) oh and lol lol lol(how does he do this all day its so boring?) oh and lol lol lol(how does he do this all day its so boring?) oh and lol lol lol

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Nah. All we have to do is wait for the Republicans to mess up again. Which given their history is 100 percent certain.

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Show me one poll that I’ve posted today.

That would be here

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Barry probably drags in nightly to hear “The First Lantern Jaw” say “Honey how was work today” to which Obama stumbles over, lays his head on her shoulder and begins to sob…LMAO!!

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Simply put Republican economic record is terrible. They consistently kick off an economic spiral and speculative markets. Every economic mess started during Republican administration and tax cut policies.

In the past they had the common sense to tie tax cuts to some sort of available revenue. Presently Republicans simply BORROW to give tax cuts.

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I betcha CNN’s Judy Woodruff wet herself nightly. I remember watching when Bush KO’d Kerry. She was about to start balling, live and in color. With Obama failing with each and every move Judy is probably ready for an extended vacation at “Trembling Oaks Recovery Center”.

Or maybe she is suffering from the DTs.

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What in the world is DumbR yapping on about today. That boy’s got issues. If he’d just quit obsessing over cheating on taxes, he’d be a lot better off.

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LA

Fox was ranked 3rd in total day. CNN was 22nd in primetime and 19th in total day, and MSNBC was 25th in primetime and 31st in total day.

Are you saying that these results didn’t come from polling data?