Endorsement of McCain alienates Palin supporters

Sen. John McCain, the man who brought Sarah Palin to national prominence, is being challenged for re-election in the GOP primary by former U.S. Rep. J.D. Hayworth. Palin recently announced that she plans to travel to Arizona to campaign on McCain’s behalf, but posters on her Facebook page are not at all happy with their Sarah:

“Sarah, it was fun, but now you are done.”

“Sarah, your support of McCain shows bad judgment and brings into question the validity of your words. You can forget any political ambition if you support Amnesty – which John McCain does. Conservatives don’t forget.”

“You do know Senator McCain is a PROGRESSIVE? It is very disappointing that you are campaigning for him instead of J.D. Hayworth. McCain needs to go!”

“Sorry to hear that you are supporting McCain. Up to now, I thought you were part of the solution, but you’ve shown yourself to be part of the problem.”

“McCain!? Are you kidding me? Time to pick a side, Sarah– Are you with the people, or against them?”

“I agree with those who advise you not to campaign for Senator McCain. He really doesn’t represent the views of grassroot conservatives. He represents those in the GOP who have too often been willing to compromise on principle, or even worse, have failed to really understand basic conservative principles.”

“McCain used Palin like a cheap tool to keep from getting beat worse than Reagan did to Mondale. His staff mocked her and showed no respect. Now McCain is using her again like a cheap tool and this time she is willingly doing it under the guise of loyalty. As long as McCain is the face of the GOP, conservatives are irrelevant. Palin is playing politics and this goes against what she “supposedly” represents. She helps elect McCain, she’s done.”

“I respect your loyalty to McCain, Sarah, but he really is using you. You need to do what you are obligated to do for him, and then run as far away from him as possible. He’s widely despised in the Conservative movement, and you’ll be hurting yourself badly with your support base if you do more than offer your token support or speak on his behalf.”

“McCain is not a commonsense candidate. If you support him your future as a conservative candidate is over.”

“Another day ~ another appeal to our girl from Wasilla: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not follow through with your plan to campaign for John McCain. In the insightful words of Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman: “Big mistake. Big. Huge.” To do so will destroy your credibility, have your enemies carping: “I told you so,” and leave your fans devastated.”

That’s just a small sampling of some 2,500 comments, and I have to admit to being surprised by the vehemence and near-unanimity of that sentiment. It makes me think that McCain might eventually have real trouble in the Arizona primary.

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TaxPayer

January 26th, 2010
4:57 pm

Oh Noes! Sarah done gone and did her supporters wrong by coming out on the wrong side. She gonna have to do some back peddling and fast.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2010
5:09 pm

It makes me think that McCain might eventually have real trouble in the Arizona primary.

A point that was lost on many yesterday.

getalife

January 26th, 2010
5:12 pm

The corporate union is up and running strong.

Too late to stop it.

Lord Help Us

January 26th, 2010
5:13 pm

Methinks she owes McCain…she was hosed either way…

pat

January 26th, 2010
5:15 pm

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703906204575026942464525862.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond

LOL!

pat

January 26th, 2010
5:17 pm

Palin again? Really?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

January 26th, 2010
5:22 pm

I still love you Sarah but ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

thomas

January 26th, 2010
5:24 pm

So Jay are you glad McCain may have trouble or no?

Cause from where I’m sittin it seems more democrats adn those who identify as liberal would be happier with McCain, than with Hayworth who seems to be very conservative.

Isn’t that kinda what he is running on is being more conservative than McCain.

If McCain does loose does that mean that many were correct in their suggestion that one of the main problems for Mccain during pres. election was that he was too moderate and many registered republicans stayed home and did not vote.

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2010
5:24 pm

These Facebook followers, they really do live in a special place where reality rarely intrudes, one supposes.

Jay

January 26th, 2010
5:24 pm

Thomas, it doesn’t really matter much, as far as I can tell. The political McCain I once admired — the maverick — disappeared beneath his ego some time ago.

Kevin

January 26th, 2010
5:25 pm

I don’t trust Palin, she went on the Oprah show after Oprah went against the people and played racist. Now she is going to campaign for McCain. Another thing, do you remember how Bush got into office, all of a sudden the media started to push him on us by attacking him and the next thing you know he is in. They are doing the same thing with here, they pushed her to the forefront by attacking her, thereby picking our next leader. We need no names in office. We need to shake up the establishment by putting in people that are new to politics like Medina in Texas.

thomas

January 26th, 2010
5:25 pm

pat,
its Jay’s fetish.

Give the guy a break we all have vices. Anyway this one actually has political interest.

Pogo

January 26th, 2010
5:26 pm

Pat, if not Palin, then who? Jay has to return to his liberal talking point well as often as possible but there’s one big problem for him and the liberals; that well for them is getting shallower and shallower because of their own disconnection with the American people and their own continued effort to try to justify everything Obama (a “President” for whom there is no justification, other than saying he is just not a leader). It is an act of desperation for Jay and the liberals, if you will. They will return to Palin, to Cheney, to anything in the past so that people don’t have to look at what they are doing to the present.

lawrence ks

January 26th, 2010
5:26 pm

well, what do you know. palin fans starting to get the big picture. pretty face does not necessarily a politician make. DUH.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2010
5:26 pm

So Jay are you glad McCain may have trouble or no?

Cause from where I’m sittin it seems more democrats adn[sic] those who identify as liberal would be happier with McCain, than with Hayworth who seems to be very conservative.

You are presuming that a Democrat will lose to a Republican in AZ?

Did you miss the lesson of MA?

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2010
5:28 pm

where I’m sittin it seems more democrats adn those who identify as liberal would be happier with McCain, than with Hayworth who seems to be very conservative.

well, from where I’m sitting, an AM-radio blowhard with ties to Jack Abramoff might be a tad easier to knock off and put in the “D” column (if the Dems get their act together and run a strong candidate there) than running against John McCain. But what do I know.

later, kids.

DoggoneGA

January 26th, 2010
5:28 pm

“These Facebook followers, they really do live in a special place where reality rarely intrudes, one supposes”

Do you think they’ll ever catch on that she’s playing them for suckers?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

January 26th, 2010
5:35 pm

These Facebook followers, they really do live in a special place where reality rarely intrudes, one supposes.

sfb- Versus the Bookman blog where reality NEVER intrudes, just sayin…

Paul

January 26th, 2010
5:35 pm

Sen-elect Brown won as a social left of center, fiscally conservative Republican. I believe the Republican challenger for Pres Obama’s old Senate seat, showing good numbers, is of the same mold. Sen McCain’s detractors don’t get the results of the MA election any more than many Democrats don’t get it.

As for Palin – that act alone cuts through a lot of the stuff put out by all those negative, anonymous sources.

josef nix

January 26th, 2010
5:35 pm

Who was it downstairs that said with LA gone, Jay would have to bring up Palin to get his count back up…? Somebody’s crystal ball is in working order!

Has Palin got a pair of orange shorts we don’t know about? :-)

josef nix

January 26th, 2010
5:39 pm

PAUL

The Republican running for Fierce Advocate’s seat…rumor, spread by his Democrat supporters, is that he’s another Pink Elephant…

Paul

January 26th, 2010
5:44 pm

josef nix

Well, good for him! Maybe the mainstream forces are taking back their Party?

Was listening to an author on NPR’s Diane Rehm show. Book was about the unconscious mind influencing/directing actions. Author answered a question on groupthink, how people in groups will put aside that which they believe correct to follow the group. His example? Liberal Democrats! Gave issue after issue, said how it’s unlikely so many people support so many identical policies across the board. Then said same is true with farright Reps, but it’s particularly evident in the farleft of the Dem party.

DoggoneGA

January 26th, 2010
5:44 pm

“Then said same is true with farright Reps, but it’s particularly evident in the farleft of the Dem party”

So what he’s really saying is that there are nuts in both trees. Like we didn’t already know that?

Number1ninja

January 26th, 2010
5:46 pm

Uggh, I’ll pass on this one, I’ve said too much here already.

Susan

January 26th, 2010
5:48 pm

I am a member of Team Sarah…we had these “so-called” Palin supporters on our site too…Trolls doing the work of the Left-Wing…we learned a long time ago how to spot these “fake” Palin supporters a long time ago.

Dusty

January 26th, 2010
5:48 pm

Oh how wonderful. Jay Bookman gives us ten quotes from Facebook to let us know how a few people feel about McCain. How sweet it is for a hungry liberal torch bearer like Bookman.

Then, right on, he throws a little kerosene on the match stick fire. Yep, he said about McCain “the maverick….disappeareed beneath his ego some time ago:.”

Yeah, that spoiled ol’ rotten POW hero and longtime senator McCain…..He aint doing nuthin for none of us!!

There you have it… the earth moving opinion of one lil’ known editor of a lib newspaper. I bet McCain is shedding tears over that one. Whew! Way to go, Bookman. You do keep the local libs happy, all twelve of them.

josef nix

January 26th, 2010
5:49 pm

PSUL–

The group think elements have hijacked both parties. That’s the problem,

Hef

January 26th, 2010
5:50 pm

The U.S. is’nt the only country where Pres Barry’s popularity has waned.This just in “Indonesia mulls tearing down Obama statue” The statue “Little Barry” was erected just a month ago,depicts a young Obama. Members of the “Take Down the Barry Statue in Menteng Park” say just like in the U.S., Obama has done nothing for Idonesia. Seems Barry is starting to loose support of Muslim world simular to his loss of popularity here in the U.S. Two term Pres,I don’t think so.

josef nix

January 26th, 2010
5:52 pm

Dusty–

“You do keep the local libs happy, all twelve of them.”

Make that 11 of them. He doesn’t always make me happy… :-)

josef nix

January 26th, 2010
5:58 pm

“That’s just a small sampling of some 2,500 comments, and I have to admit to being surprised by the vehemence and near-unanimity of that sentiment.”

Just wait until the Dems turn on Barry…you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet…

Kamchak

January 26th, 2010
5:58 pm

You do keep the local libs happy, all twelve of them.

Jay is not responsible for my happiness–I am.

josef nix

January 26th, 2010
5:59 pm

“Jay is not responsible for my happiness–I am.”

He does give me a place to be happy, though…I appreciate that.

Jefferson

January 26th, 2010
6:01 pm

Of the 3, well ….who cares about a state that won’t use daylight savings time.

Normal

January 26th, 2010
6:04 pm

H. Clinton/McClain 2012… :D

Paul

January 26th, 2010
6:05 pm

josef nix – Doggone/GA

It was more of a passing comment in response to a questioner.

The link is here. Well worth the time to listen to the interview. The lead-in was “Shankar Vedantam: The Hidden Brain

“The power of our hidden brains: How our unconscious minds elect presidents, control markets, wage wars, and routinely, but imperceptibly, influence our daily lives.”

http://wamu.org/programs/dr/10/01/26.php#29320

Brad Steel

January 26th, 2010
6:06 pm

In the insightful words of Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman: “Big mistake. Big. Huge.”

Sarah (as her lobotomized lackeys call her) should listen closely to her followers – especially if they are referencing 90’s-era mythical whores.

@@

January 26th, 2010
6:06 pm

Correct me if I’m wrong, jay, but aren’t the people of Arizona the only ones who can re-elect John McCain/ It’s not like he’s running for national office. Maybe Sarah Palin isn’t as extreme right as your side has painted her to be. Big tents and all that stuff.

By the by….what’s with Rahm Emanuel calling your party’s extreme left “F—ing retards”? I don’t think any higher-up in the Republican party ever called conservatives F—-ing retards.

I see where you set out to get the progressives all riled up over campaign finance reform yet again. For those progressives who think Obama’s contempt for this ruling has anything to do with big corporations….think again. It’s partisan politics that spurs his rancor. He ain’t lookin’ out for you!

One of the best articles I’ve ever read on the subject. Excerpts are provided for those whose attention spans are lacking….something on which Obama relies heavily.

The Myth of Campaign Finance Reform

March 24, 2009, may go down as a turning point in the history of the campaign-finance reform debate in America. On that day, in the course of oral argument before the Supreme Court in the case of Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, United States deputy solicitor general Malcolm Stewart inadvertently revealed just how extreme our campaign-finance system has become.

The case addressed the question of whether federal campaign-finance law limits the right of the activist group Citizens United to distribute a hackneyed political documentary entitled Hillary: The Movie. The details involved an arcane provision of the law, and most observers expected a limited decision that would make little news and not much practical difference in how campaigns are run. But in the course of the ­argument, Justice Samuel Alito interrupted Stewart and inquired: “What’s your answer to [the] point that there isn’t any constitutional difference between the distribution of this movie on video [on] demand and providing access on the internet, providing DVDs, either through a commercial service or maybe in a public library, [or] providing the same thing in a book? Would the Constitution permit the restriction of all of those as well?” Stewart, an experienced litigator who had represented the government in campaign-finance cases at the Supreme Court before, responded that the provisions of McCain-Feingold could in fact be constitutionally applied to limit all those forms of speech. The law, he ­contended, would even require banning a book that made the same points as the Citizens United video.

There was an audible gasp in the courtroom. Then Justice Alito spoke, it seemed, for the entire audience: “That’s pretty incredible.” By the time Stewart’s turn at the podium was over, he had told Justice Anthony ­Kennedy that the government could restrict the distribution of books through Amazon’s digital book reader, Kindle; responded to Justice David Souter that the government could prevent a union from hiring a writer to author a political book; and conceded to Chief Justice John Roberts that a corporate publisher could be prohibited from publishing a 500-page book if it contained even one line of candidate advocacy.

Under the rules established by the “reform” regime, editorial-page editors, columnists, and talk-show hosts may endorse candidates — but others may not pay to take out an ad of equal size or length to explicitly endorse their candidates.

Easing the restrictions on campaign contributions would not ­constrain any of these other forms of political support. Rather, allowing more contributions simply permits more people to participate in the ­system — thus diffusing influence, rather than concentrating it. Campaign­-finance reform, then, actually undermines the effort to ­promote equal access to the political arena.

Easing the restrictions on campaign contributions would not ­constrain any of these other forms of political support. Rather, allowing more contributions simply permits more people to participate in the ­system — thus diffusing influence, rather than concentrating it. Campaign­-finance reform, then, actually undermines the effort to ­promote equal access to the political arena.

During his first year as President, Obama has worked hard to alienate Americans from corporate America. His most recent attack of the SC ruling does it once again. Get behind him on this and your freedom is his for the taking.

This fight is between the political parties. Regardless of what he wants you to believe, he’s just not that into you progressives. Just like Rahm, he thinks you’re f—-ing retarded.

My apologies for the long post.

josef nix

January 26th, 2010
6:06 pm

“H. Clinton/McClain 2012…”

Said in jest, but not a bad idea…

getalife

January 26th, 2010
6:07 pm

The cons are producing a gop litmus test in Hawaii.

Even Andy will not pass the gop test.

Pogo

January 26th, 2010
6:08 pm

LA is gone Jay? Why don’t you punch the magic switch and do away with all of the independents and conservatives? I see extremists and pure out nuts on both sides here day after day but it is peculiar that you have a little less patience with those that don’t “follow your lead”, so to speak. I mean, you did Xnay “PO Is A Done Deal”(or whatever) but you allow people like Amvet to continue on. He verbally craps on everyone who doesn’t believe his marxist trash but you do nothing about him. Why is that? Free Speech is free speech right?” And the rules should apply to all, right?

Hef

January 26th, 2010
6:08 pm

For all the Dynamic Duo has done for the Democratic Party, I’m amazed I don’t hear more Pelosi/Reid 2012 cry’s! I hear the only tax credits they would support would be for Plastic Surgery! lol

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 26th, 2010
6:08 pm

Well, I bet this McCain wears orange shorts the size of a tent too, like Sister Dusty. I’m downright ashamed of Sarah. She let me down big-time. This McCain is the same one that wants to put the Mexicans on the same par as us good rednecks. If it was up to him, we’d loose our long breaks and the sick days out because of a hangover and showing up a little late for work and leaving early. We would even loose our job because they’d hire Mexicans to do them at the same wage.

That’s it. I’m thru with Sarah. We need good Conservatives that will tell it like it is. Like how all these welfare people are just breeders that need to be starved out. Like how all these illegals need to be rounded up and hauled back across the border, and their kids with them.

I thought Sarah was a American. Turns out she’s just another politican. I’m taking her picture down from my wall.

I’m just disgusted. Have a good night everybody.

md

January 26th, 2010
6:09 pm

If MA taught us anything, it would be that the center has a voice. Both parties would be wise to focus on the center and cast loose their extremists. When it comes time to vote, the extremists will vote the party or not vote at all and the independents will vote whichever group is less extreme.

The dems fooled the center in 2008, doubt it will happen again. The reps best pay attention and cast off the far right, something the dems neglected to do.

Hef

January 26th, 2010
6:10 pm

But at least Andy would know it was a test!

Paul

January 26th, 2010
6:14 pm

@@

[[Maybe Sarah Palin isn’t as extreme right as your side has painted her to be. ]]

Hmmm.

Naw //sarc//

Meant more as a comment on the portrayers than on the portrayed -

Normal

January 26th, 2010
6:14 pm

Josef, H. Clinton/McCain is the start of a good third party…The Democons…

Bosch

January 26th, 2010
6:18 pm

Paul,

So…..how was the visit to the ABBA theme park?

David Farrar

January 26th, 2010
6:20 pm

Is this all a good investigative reporter can do when given a big, fat piece of red meat, Jay, like this story — quote some of Palin’s supporters on her Facebook account?

The AZ primary will be the biggest, bloodiest, messiest fight within the Republican Party, by far, for the whole 2010 year. It will represent an epic battle between the progressive conservatism of John McCain and the new grassroot right, Tea Party, anti-incumbent movement soon to be represented by JD Hayworth. And if that wasn’t big enough, now we have the new grassroot right, Tea Party, anti-incumbent movement’s biggest standard bearer suddenly not only endorsing McCain, but stumping for him as well!

As far as I know, nobody is buying this crap about Palin simply repaying a campaign debit. Palin did not need to endorse McCain during the AZ primary. She could have held off until the general, as McCain did with his VP choice, and honorably agreed to support the wining candidate of the Republican primary. So why did she deliberately fall on McCain’s sword?

Was it an offer she couldn’t refuse, or is she trying to send a signal to the Republican Party leadership and to the independents that is she is really a progressive conservative, just like McCain, and beyond her rhetoric to her grassroot Tea Party minions, she is willing to play ball with the both factions?

But, alas, we don’t know because you didn’t do your homework!

ex animo

davidfarrar

danjonglee

January 26th, 2010
6:20 pm

Is Joe Lieberman “the mavreick” up for re election?

Paul

January 26th, 2010
6:21 pm

Bosch

Only ABBA was on the CD. This was a work trip.

I know, I know…. you wanna know how the Anna ride was….

pervert -

Bosch

January 26th, 2010
6:26 pm

Paul,

Why I never!

Hef

January 26th, 2010
6:27 pm

I hear the “waterloo” coaster is da bomb!

Paul

January 26th, 2010
6:28 pm

Hef

Yeah. ‘Waterloo’ is the number one oldies request in Massachusetts!

Bosch

:-)

Bosch

January 26th, 2010
6:29 pm

My question is why in the world does McCain want to run again? The dude is older than Moses.

Personally, I lost all respect for McCain when he campaigned for W in 2004 after W attacked his family so viciously. Viciously I say!

Bosch

January 26th, 2010
6:30 pm

Hef,

Waterloo coaster? Sweet!

Paul

January 26th, 2010
6:31 pm

Bosch

[[Why I never!]]

Doesn’t the other Bosch say “Why, he hardly ever…”?

Regarding McCain, maybe he sees the next couple years as vindication of his platform?

Bosch

January 26th, 2010
6:31 pm

Paul,

What was his platform other than “Obama sucks and vote for me……and did you get a gander at this hot chick that I pulled out of no where [God, I wish she'd shut up]?”

Hef

January 26th, 2010
6:32 pm

Hey Bosch! McCain is old as dirt,kick him out. I truly wish we could flush em all out and start fresh!

Balance Our Budget

January 26th, 2010
6:33 pm

Seeing comments that LA is gone what happened to him.

jt

January 26th, 2010
6:33 pm

CAPTAIN John McCain, USN,(Ret). You are an honorable man and I thank you for your service.

SENATOR John McCain, you are a limp soggy biscuit with many Ted Kennedy pictures. Go away.

And Sarah,

I hardly knew ye.

Dusty

January 26th, 2010
6:33 pm

Pogo.

I said much the same thing as you about the “vacationing” LA. Mine got left on the last page of the last blog (which few read). Were you surprised? I wasn’t.

josef,

You are double dipping, serving out a bit of lib here and bit of conservative there. I can’t manage that, as broad minded as that may be.

Bookman enjoys the few strokes he gets from a select few. Somebody’s got to do it. Don’t tell him that this crowd could talk a mile a minute without a subject given. Maybe he could just drop the introduction and see what happens. Remember his vacatiion week?

I am off (in my orange shorts, of course) on my usual schedule. Gotta keep the “orange” thing going for RedNeck. He doesn’t have much excitement in his life.

Southern Comfort

January 26th, 2010
6:34 pm

Evening all…

So what happened to LA???

Anyways, I guess this means that the “hard feelings” between the two camps were not quite as they were portrayed by the media? It’s a free country and Palin is free to campaign for whomever she wishes. If her supporters don’t like it, then tough sh*t. They need to get over it. Nobody likes everything that someone else does, it’s human nature. I don’t like everything my mom has done, but I still love her anyway. Sometimes people put others up on a pedestal when we should all be standing on the same plateau.

Good for Palin, and good for McCain!!

Next news???

Bosch

January 26th, 2010
6:35 pm

Dusty,

“I am off (in my orange shorts, of course)”

You tease.

Hef

January 26th, 2010
6:35 pm

Yes Paul,quite messy last week in Mass-Oh the humanity!

Paul

January 26th, 2010
6:37 pm

Bosch

No, I missed that?

Where? Was is Palin in orange shorts?

Regarding the vindication thing: didn’t he have more of a “it’s necessary but let’s not overdo it” economic approach? The same thing Pres Obama’s now walking back? Wasn’t he for conservation but not cap n trade? Didn’t he take a harder line on national security/terrorism than Pres Obama – and in so many ways Obama is Bush II, except when it comes to all this criminal prosecution stuff, with the Christmas Bomber highlighting all the missteps and disorganization of the Administration.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2010
6:38 pm

So what happened to LA???

I would say this sums it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl2d7EhqsQk

F. Sinkwich

January 26th, 2010
6:39 pm

I’ll admit it. I’m a Palinite. I enjoyed her book. She’s a breath of fresh air with common sense values this country needs in those we put in positions of power. The Ivy-League elitists now in power just don’t understand what this country is all about.

Palin embracing McCain is disturbing. When asked in a recent interview about why she was doing this, she extolled his fight against Obamacare and the pork-laden “stimulus” bill.

All fine and good. Unmentioned was his opposition to drilling in ANWR, support of amnesty for illegals, sponsoring the unconstitutional campaign finance laws, etc. All positions she opposes.

What really got to me was McCain’s admonition to a crowd at a campaign rally that Obama wasn’t someone to be afraid of as president. Jeeesh, what a dope.

She’s loyal, I’ll give her that. But it’s a buzzkill for me.

Paul

January 26th, 2010
6:42 pm

Hef

I was saving this for Friday, but since you missed it, it’s Pres Obama’s tribute after Massachusetts and before the State of the Union. It’s from Boston. The group. Get it? Boston? Hehheh –

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myu8Y764WwE

DoggoneGA

January 26th, 2010
6:43 pm

“Personally, I lost all respect for McCain when he campaigned for W in 2004 after W attacked his family so viciously”

For me that capped it, but I lost my respect for him when he didn’t have a CLUE how to respond to those attacks.

Paul

January 26th, 2010
6:43 pm

Hef

That should be ’since you mentioned it.” Not missed it. ‘Cause it hadn’t happened yet. Unless you’re into bending that space/time continuum thing -

Southern Comfort

January 26th, 2010
6:43 pm

Kamchak

So, once again, his fingers got the best of him… I seem to miss all the good stuff when work has me busy.

Dusty

January 26th, 2010
6:44 pm

Boschie,

Old man Moses led his people right through the Red Sea and the wilderness. Whatcha got against oldies? You weren’t born just yesterday, were you???? When you gonna run off that ol Democrat from W. Virginny? He makes McCain look like a youngster…..

NJ

January 26th, 2010
6:45 pm

They should be called the Political Keystone Kops.

Amazing what their supporters will believe. Like the Bush tax cuts. They disappeared for the middle class by 2005, the small business supports were sunset in 2006. All that is left is the cuts for the top 2 percent.

And the Bush “Tax Credits” for buying a new home. They were simply an advance on the next five years. You paid them back out of the future tax returns.

josef nix

January 26th, 2010
6:46 pm

PAUL–
Thanks for that link. Fascinating and informative. I will be going back to it to listen to the call-in segment.

What he had to say about the hidden brain and gender bias is certainly applicable in the case of Palin. I’ve said it all along, but it’s good to have an “expert” to talk about what’s at work here. So many of our Palin bashers would screech like banshees that they’re not biased against her (and note the choice of the word “bias!”) and yet they can offer no substantial rationale for the highly emotional fascination they have for her.

Analyzing the commentaries, my feeling is that the male bashers insist that she, a good-looking woman in the feminine “ideal,” be dismissed as “a cute little thing…not a brain in her head, but…” and the women bashers will do the same but with a palbable, oftentimes “b*tchy” jealously…

My own perspective as a gay man has born this out. Back when I was younger and just setting out in my career, I had a similar problem. (Remember this was long ago, and far away :-) ) One of my major professors advised me not to accept an invitation to read a paper I had written. When I wanted to know why, he said, “look at yourself. You’ll not be taken seriously.” And why? I had “that look” as he called it, not gay per se, but pretty-boy blond. I didn’t follow his advice, but what he said turned out to be true. There were those who simply refused to believe that I had written the same paper, read in person, that had been well received read sight of me unseen…

This is what, I feel, is at work with Palin…

Dusty

January 26th, 2010
6:47 pm

DoggoneGA

Don’t you know the best way to respond to most verbal attacks is to ignore them? Be above it all and such as that. I know that’s the best way to handle it but the most difficult. I can’t do it myself most of the time.

Still the best way.

Hef

January 26th, 2010
6:48 pm

Paul,thats one u don’t hear much on the radio,killer song & fitting. Play it anyway on Fri i’m sure it’ll bring a tear or two to Jay! Not to mention Teddy-lol

TGT

January 26th, 2010
6:52 pm

Hef

January 26th, 2010
6:54 pm

Nite all off to be with my Beautifull Wife to Be!

Rita Porter

January 26th, 2010
6:54 pm

Sarah, what a shock that you are supporting McCain. I really thought you were a conservative, and a breath of fresh air. Please reconsider Hayworth. However, I think you may have shown your true colors.

AmVet

January 26th, 2010
6:55 pm

Another day, another Republican loonfest and circular firing squad.

Yawn.

Paul, really nice to hear one of their songs that the radio payola boys didn’t play to death…

Kamchak, hysterical.

“Three strikes and you’re out” LA must be sitting there disconsolately in the blogging land of nod, pathetically reading all of this (and moving his lips), and thinking…soy un perdedor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlOLfeYhlnk

(But damn! At last my pants leg will finally dry out…)

Bosch

January 26th, 2010
6:55 pm

Paul,

I don’t buy the “Obama is Bush II” bit. There are some things that Obama’s done that I disapprove of, but most of what he’s done is overblown by the wingnuts which we’ve all discussed here, one by one.

OMG, I fell asleep Friday night and missed Caprica – did you see it?

Dusty,

Who? I know not whom you speak of. Yes, it is best to ignore personal attacks, but when someone attacks my family, you become sh*t in the “Gospel of Bosch.” I think you are doing a much better job of ignoring personal attacks!

Police Line Do Not Cross

January 26th, 2010
6:55 pm

Del:

Did you ever get out to the “Rockpile/Razorback” or “Ca Lu/Vandergrift” ??

Bosch

January 26th, 2010
6:57 pm

TGT,

Oh God, please don’t go there.

professional skeptic

January 26th, 2010
7:02 pm

Sarah, there is no independent thought or action; no dissent, no discussion, no opposition, no compromise; not even the slightest deviation from the circulated script, the groupthink, the mentality of the hive mind. Complete and utter submission is demanded and required. We are watching you, Sarah.

We are Borg, resistance is futile.

Lil Nemo

January 26th, 2010
7:02 pm

I didn’t vote for McCain, I voted for Sarah. If she hadn’t been on the ticket I wouldn’t have voted. In NY there was an election between a Dem, a RINO, and a conservative. When it became apparent that she couldn’t win, the RINO threw her support to the Dem who was elected. McCain did everything that he could to sink Bush – including his judicial appointments (remember the Gang of 14?). His stand on enhanced questioning has hurt our national defense. His stand on legalization will do nothing but assist the Dems. The comment made about McCain was that he spent so much time reaching across the aisle that he should move there. How in the world can Sarah support him?

AmVet

January 26th, 2010
7:03 pm

Bosch, I’m guessing its a huge victory for the post-Anita Bryant crowd down there, who were unsuccessful in banning Pete from performing at half time for being one of the…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkT8W6u81Ks

RW-(the original)

January 26th, 2010
7:03 pm

Sarah Palin owes her national prominence to John McCain and even if her politics skew more toward J.D.’s she really has no choice here.

@@

January 26th, 2010
7:06 pm

From John Edwards, lessons on celebrity and politics

Rather insightful. All most of us really know about our candidates is what the media feeds us.

I’ve read where my guy is likely not to run in 2012. That’s alright…I’ve been doing my research on the others. My guy will surface in due time.

Paul

January 26th, 2010
7:07 pm

josef nix

Tell a liberal they’re biased against women?!!? LOLOLOL!

Wait’ll you listen to the entire segment. Guy references studies done with transgender people. Real quick: the women had income decrease and loss of responsibility at work. The men had just the opposite result. Wow.

In other words, women aren’t taken as seriously or valued as much as men… even when they started out as men! Incredible.

AmVet

I think it’s one of two CDs of theirs I kept. I like the story/series nature. Plus the instrumentals.

Bosch

Don’t buy Bush II? May I introduce you to this thoughtful guy goes by the name of josef?

The Caprica I recorded was the same as the DVD I watched months back. So far the only tie-in to BSG is the fact it’s on one of their planets.

The Tebow ad? What makes it interesting, as I understand the story, is that his mom was advised to have an abortion. Baby wouldn’t be normal. She was pregnant with Tim.

Then again, he did end up going to Univ of Florida, so the ‘not normal’ thing was spot on -

DoggoneGA

January 26th, 2010
7:11 pm

“Don’t you know the best way to respond to most verbal attacks is to ignore them?”

Not as far as I’m concerned. If the attacks are flat out lies, and you don’t address them, then you’ve as good as confirmed them.

DoggoneGA

January 26th, 2010
7:14 pm

“Tell a liberal they’re biased against women?!!?”

And what about a “liberal” like me that thinks she has all the makings of a first class con-artist? And seems hellbent on proving it.

DoggoneGA

January 26th, 2010
7:16 pm

Paul…I wasn’t addressing the author, I was addressing only the sentence I quoted.

Paul

January 26th, 2010
7:16 pm

DoggoneGA

The author wasn’t discussing Palin. He was discussing men and women in general, both of whom exhibit bias against or for men and women.

josef nix

January 26th, 2010
7:19 pm

PAUL–
I was particularly taken by the transgenderal studies…not because I doubted for a minute that such was the case, but, well, it was hard to “prove.” The data collected here is irrefutable, I would say. I also found his analyses of the death-survival rates from the Twin Towers of interest. We have two kinds of emergency evacuation drills at school. The one is announced to the teachers beforehand, the other impromptu. Those of us on the safety committee know which is which, the others do not. We analyze the response. In the planned ones, of course, everything goes precisely by the book. In the unannounced, some classes respond as they should, while others look around to see what everybody else is doing, spending valuable time wanting to find out is this “real.” Those responding on time and properly are invariably the ones with teachers who are of the “cantakerous” mind-set who can disrupt a faculty meeting or a workshop in a minute with their refusals to “go along.”

TGT

January 26th, 2010
7:25 pm

Paul

January 26th, 2010
7:25 pm

josef

Such people haven’t quite broken the code of “adapt your personality to the situation” have they?

Lots of organizations pay lip service to hiring, promoting and retaining people who are willing to question groupthink and come up with new innovations. I’m speaking here of the people who don’t come across as so many do, wanting to be on the opposite side of whatever they see. But when it comes to actually rewarding such behavior, I’d guess many organizations come up short.

josef nix

January 26th, 2010
7:26 pm

An example of bias based on looks on us on this blog. Even the liberal Democrats freely join in the roast of John Edwards, but never say anything about Barney Frank whose pecadillos make Edwards look like a choirboy. Even the conservative Republicans joined with glee on the snicker-snicker thread with “cute” Crist, but come out swinging in defense of such as Larry Craig..But, are they biased against attractive people with a brain? Oh, no, never….

@@

January 26th, 2010
7:27 pm

When did this happen?

Democrats Pull Back on Health Care Bill

Here we go again!

RW-(the original)

January 26th, 2010
7:29 pm

Americans do not trust the major tv news operations in the country- except for Fox News.

Our newest survey looking at perceptions of ABC News, CBS News, CNN, Fox News, and NBC News finds Fox as the only one that more people say they trust than distrust. 49% say they trust it to 37% who do not.

CNN does next best at a 39/41 spread, followed by NBC at 35/44, CBS at 32/46, and ABC at 31/46.

Imagine what they’d say about newspapers.

josef nix

January 26th, 2010
7:34 pm

@@ at 7:06…

A good read…