McCain draws primary opposition
Former Arizona Congressman J.D. Hayworth says he is planning to run against John McCain for his U.S. Senate seat.
Hayworth, a Republican, told The Associated Press late Friday he stepped down as host of his radio program on KFYI-AM, a conservative radio talk show in Phoenix. Legally, he would not have been able to remain host of the program and be an active candidate.
“We will formally announce at a later time, but we’re moving forward to challenge John McCain,” he said. “I think we all respect John. I think his place in history is secure. But after close to a quarter-century in Washington, it’s time for him to come home.”
He said he wasn’t serious about running against McCain until a recent “outpouring of support” from Arizonans asking him to run changed his mind.
You don’t often see this, a primary challenge to a party’s most recent presidential nominee. I doubt it will come to much, but Hayworth is clearly hoping to ride the coattails of the Tea Party movement and its disdain for alleged “RINOs” such as McCain to victory in Arizona’s GOP primary. You never know, especially in this kind of political environment. Just ask Scott Brown.
I’m running off to the Gold Dome now for an ethics committee meeting. Please behave yourselves, now….
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Outhouse GoKart
January 25th, 2010
3:22 pm
Arlen Specter was the attorney for that fat, nasty radical hippie that killed his girlfriend. Wouldnt mind seeing Arlen defeated and tossed into the toilet bowl of society.
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:24 pm
“Peace out DUMBO…I don’t recall mentioning any political party in my post!”
Before calling another person DUMBO, you might want to actually read my post.
1: I never called you a democrat.
2: DUMBO is the actual term for Obama’s ears.
Bottom line: Bye bye!
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:25 pm
“I’m sure you can pick up someone that is willing to fulfill your needs.”
Arlen Spector’s words, ma’am. Not mine.
getalife
January 25th, 2010
3:27 pm
JD sounds just like rush when he talks.
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:28 pm
“Wouldnt mind seeing Arlen defeated and tossed into the toilet bowl of society.”
Well, from what the Penn polls say, he’s finished.
Bob
January 25th, 2010
3:28 pm
Hey Jennifer, you say Palin is stupid ?
http://reason.com/archives/2010/01/15/the-incredible-incompetence-of
This is stupid !
Jimmy Carter
January 25th, 2010
3:29 pm
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:25 pm
Arlen Spector? Isn’t the that music guy who killed his wife? Oops, sorry, that was Phil. Arlen’s brother perhaps?
Outhouse GoKart
January 25th, 2010
3:29 pm
More of barrys failures…
Italy’s Disaster Chief Blasts ‘Pathetic’ U.S. Aid Work in Haiti
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583829,00.html
Perhaps if barry would leave it up to the Armed forces instead of that silly USAID something might get done. Barry is a failure on all fronts.
AmVet
January 25th, 2010
3:30 pm
Sorry humper, I don’t engage uber-needy trolls and proven serial liars…
Good luck on covering the over/under though…
For you big-rtime BushCo fans/traitors:
To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. ~Theodore Roosevelt
Outhouse GoKart
January 25th, 2010
3:31 pm
JC…it was Ira Einhorn…thats the smelly hippie to which I refer. Took a minute to recall his name.
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:32 pm
Speaking of failures, John F. Kerry ( who also served with AmVet and Normal in Vietnam) was a bad student at Yale.
My favorite John F. Kerry line: ”I always told my Dad that D stood for distinction,”
Now THAT is dumb.
Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student
The transcript shows that Kerry’s freshman-year average was 71. He scored a 61 in geology, a 63 and 68 in two history classes, and a 69 in political science. His top score was a 79, in another political science course. Another of his strongest efforts, a 77, came in French class.
Under Yale’s grading system in effect at the time, grades between 90 and 100 equaled an A, 80-89 a B, 70-79 a C, 60 to 69 a D, and anything below that was a failing grade. In addition to Kerry’s four D’s in his freshman year, he received one D in his sophomore year. He did not fail any courses.
”I always told my Dad that D stood for distinction,” Kerry said yesterday in a written response to questions, noting that he has previously acknowledged that he spent a lot of time learning to fly instead of focusing on his studies.
Whacks Eloquent
January 25th, 2010
3:32 pm
Bob, LOL, I agree. I have not seen a worse candidate in quite a while, she was a seminar in “how to lose a gimme election!” I still think a competent Democrat could have squeaked out a win there. But she said absolutely the wrong things so many times, she did not have a chance with the independent voters, and I’d guess she was even a hard swallow for die-hard Democrats.
Police Line Do Not Cross
January 25th, 2010
3:33 pm
To Jackie (from previous thread discussion) :
Just in case you missed my reply:
1) Sorry dogface but the decision to bottle up the 26th Marines at Khe Sahn (instead of keeping those battalions manuerverable) belongs to your Army General William Westmoreland (surely you have heard of him – our commanding general in Vietnam?). The Marine generals in Vietnam argued strongly against that but lost due to the chain of command.
And as far as Marines not being designed for jungle warfare I guess you never heard of all the island campaigns (i.e., Guadalcanal) in WWII? All of our training in infantry school when I went through was designed for jungle warfare because that’s where we were going. Plus, it can be argued the Army in Vietnam had been generally designed for war in Europe!
Good grief ……… you need some history lessons.
2) My personal experiences on supply problems, what I ate almost everyday, etc., etc. still stand.
3) You would argue with a signpost but that’s o.k. ……….. and kind of funny.
4) Get this. It might help you: http://www.dummies.com/store/product/The-Vietnam-War-For-Dummies.productCd-0764554808.html
Disgusted
January 25th, 2010
3:33 pm
All you hippies, peace-mongers and peaceniks are making this Country unbearable with all your pot parties and hippie music and free love and peace-mongering and bathing and bra-burning and all the like.
Geez! I thought I was gone for only a weekend, but I must have time-traveled through about four decades without realizing it.
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:34 pm
“Sorry humper, I don’t engage uber-needy trolls and proven serial liars…”
1: Only liberals, like you, say that I lie. Again, more name calling from a guy who can’t debate.
2: Apart from the name calling, you just did the exact opposite of what you said you don’t do.
Bottom line: ………………………………………empty rhetoric.
Outhouse GoKart
January 25th, 2010
3:35 pm
John *PUKE* Kerry. Would love to see him tossed aside!
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:35 pm
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. ~Theodore Roosevelt”
Great words from a guy who served as a one-term president.
Jimmy Carter
January 25th, 2010
3:37 pm
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:35 pm
But according to Joe the Biden, paying higher taxes WAS patriotic. Gee, I must have missed that lesson in my “Patriotism 101″ class.
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:38 pm
By the way, that John F. Kerry info came from the Boston Globe.
I would have posted the link but I don’t want to have to ration my “copy and paste” due to Bookman’s new blog law about copy and pasting articles.
Funny that he tells me that today yet he hasn’t said it any of the other 20 times that I’ve done that.
AmVet
January 25th, 2010
3:38 pm
Disgusted, Mystery Meat is occasionally hysterical, seldom relevant, generally vapid and often insufferable…
And invariably, he laughs at all of my shtick.
For you fascist coddlers:
“We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can’t have both.” ~Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:38 pm
“Would love to see him tossed aside!”
Well, he was tossed aside in 2004.
Outhouse GoKart
January 25th, 2010
3:43 pm
A nice evening to the great unwashed. You know who you are!
Whacks Eloquent
January 25th, 2010
3:44 pm
AmVet, it is interesting that you post the Teddy Roosevelt quote with respect to Bush, but very few here say there is not valid criticism of W.
What I find more interesting is that if one criticizes the current president (Teddy did not specify!), they are labeled racist and insensitive! Hmmm, I think there is an old Latin term “doublus standardus” that describes this condition.
Normal
January 25th, 2010
3:45 pm
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:38 pm
Teddy served three years of Mckinley’s term and four of his own. He promised not to run for the second term…He wrote later that he regretted that decision…
dude
January 25th, 2010
3:46 pm
1: I never called you a democrat.
2: DUMBO is the actual term for Obama’s ears.
Bottom line: Bye bye!
Well if that were the case Mr. LA then why bring up who started what at all? Hummmmmmm?
As to Obamas ears … What’s that got to do with anything? Hummmmmmmmmmmm?
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:57 pm
“Well if that were the case Mr. LA then why bring up who started what at all? Hummmmmmm? ”
Because a democrat got us into Vietnam.
“As to Obamas ears … What’s that got to do with anything? Hummmmmmmmmmmm?”
Because Obama’s ears are exactly like Dumbo’s ears.
LA
January 25th, 2010
3:58 pm
“Teddy served three years of Mckinley’s term and four of his own. He promised not to run for the second term…He wrote later that he regretted that decision…”
Ok
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:00 pm
Whacks Eloquent
You gotta understand. AmVet is the type of person who forgets to throw the grenade after he pulls the pin.
A Max Cleland if you will.
Whacks Eloquent
January 25th, 2010
4:06 pm
LA,
The libs probably also hate when it is pointed out that Theodore Roosevelt was Republican.
He also hated hyphenated Americanism, and stressed that first and foremost we are American…
he was speaking about Irish, Germans, etc at that time, but there are other groups now that prefer to use the hyphenated name for themselves. Here is Roosevelt’s full quote:
http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/2009/09/teddy-roosevelt-on-hyphenated-americans.html
dude
January 25th, 2010
4:06 pm
OK LA, and on to the $64,000.00 dollar challenge who would have that democrat been?
Dusty
January 25th, 2010
4:11 pm
Isn’t it time for Bookman to leave the Gold Dome and give us a new subject? I hope they didn’t lock him up for Democratic spying. or something.
The air is getting heavy here. Dude even got around to saying in so many words that the USA started every war by messing around.
hmmm The U. K. just called and said “Come on home,. We knew George Washington was just messing around.”.
AmVet
January 25th, 2010
4:11 pm
Whacks,” What I find more interesting is that if one criticizes the current president (Teddy did not specify!), they are labeled racist and insensitive!”
Partially correct.
But your racial red herring is off base and of no relevance to me whatsoever.
I have excoriated BHO from before his inauguration and have been exceptionally “insensitive”. He is to me, just another fox guarding we the people’s hen house. A dismal mixture of Ronnie, Bill and George. And I said so before he was even elected.
I give (and expect from my self-proclaimed, albeit juvenile “enemies”, here) no quarter regading matters of the republic and attendant issues such as liberty and justice for all.
If “your” guy (with an R after his name) is in my considered opinion a consummate failure, I will say so. Loudy and often.
If somebody elses guy with a D after his name is likewise, I will do the same.
MOST here will not join me. Because they actually define themselves politically by one of those two letters. (Or the now nearly meaningless terms conservative or liberal.) And I have not for a very long time.
For me, it has zero to do with race. I have written here that I thought the nation would be better served with a “threatening” black man in power, not this milquetoast. I advocate dismantling the current system and ending this tyrannical, corporatist R&D failure.
It has EVERYTHING to do with results.
And it’s been so long since we the people have been represented competently and fairly by these so-called “leaders”, I am shocked at the vigor at which most still shuck and grin in knee-jerk fashion for them.
…
If a troll self-imploded in the forest and there was nobody to hear him, would he still make a sound?
The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding. ~Louis D. Brandeis
jconservative
January 25th, 2010
4:13 pm
If the teabag movement is really anti-incumbent as some of the polls and focus groups indicate, then I would say McCain is in trouble. Whether you like or dislike Hayworth, he can pour out the “right” sounding phrases with the best. And he is an Incumbent.
Only a fool would vote for an incumbent!
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:13 pm
OK LA, and on to the $64,000.00 dollar challenge who would have that democrat been?
JFK
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:15 pm
“But your racial red herring is off base and of no relevance to me whatsoever.”
So, when you call white people “evil” that’s not a racist?
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:16 pm
“the teabag movement”
I believe that is a banned term on this site. Or at least that’s what Jay once said.
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:17 pm
“If somebody elses guy with a D after his name is likewise, I will do the same.”
LOL!!!!! That’s a first!
“MOST here will not join me.”
That’s because most people are sane.
AmVet
January 25th, 2010
4:17 pm
Because once, is not enough…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvGZjRIH-NQ
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:19 pm
“A dismal mixture of Ronnie, Bill and George. And I said so before he was even elected.”
And AmVet calls me a liar?
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:20 pm
“Because once, is not enough…”
Can’t wait for Bookman to get back to see that a particular blogger posted animal porn.
tick…tick….tick….
electrician
January 25th, 2010
4:20 pm
just sayin..I scroll past any comment with a link..If you cant make your point on your own, keep it to yourself.
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:21 pm
dude, just for you!
By July 1963, Kennedy faced a crisis in Vietnam: despite increased U.S. support, the South Vietnamese military was only marginally effective against pro-Communist Viet Minh and Viet Cong forces. Regarding Ngo Dinh Diem, the Roman Catholic President of South Vietnam, as insufficiently anti-Communist, the U.S. gave secret assurances of non-interference for an impending coup d’état.[37] On November 1, 1963, South Vietnamese generals overthrew the Diem government, arresting and soon killing Diem (though the circumstances of his death were obfuscated).[38] Kennedy sanctioned Diem’s overthrow.[39] One reason to support the coup was a fear that Diem might negotiate a neutralist coalition government which included Communists, as had occurred in Laos in 1962. Dean Rusk, Secretary of State, remarked “This kind of neutralism…is tantamount to surrender.”
Kennedy increased the number of U.S. military in Vietnam from 800 to 16,300. It remains a point of some controversy among historians whether or not Vietnam would have escalated to the point it did had Kennedy served out his full term and been re-elected in 1964.
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:22 pm
Whacks Eloquent
To AmVet, TR was just an evil white racist…..
Number1ninja
January 25th, 2010
4:23 pm
AmVet at usual stated it better than I, but when the first democrat in recent memory to out-prostitute a republican RE: corporate cash is labeled a socialist, the accusers’ racism becomes the only sensible conclusion.
electrician
January 25th, 2010
4:25 pm
also ..most everybody on the daily kos has the habit of ending thier post with a quote from someone else, like that adds some magical credibility.
josef nix
January 25th, 2010
4:27 pm
Normal–just now checking in. St. Elsewhere…
electrician–
Links? Depends on the poster. But I make it a point to check out the youtube ones…there’s some good wits hereabouts…
Jay’s at an ethics meeting under the Gold Dome…isn’t that a non-sequiture? Talk about wh*res discussing chastity!
The thread topic? And…?
josef nix
January 25th, 2010
4:32 pm
Beth Robertson…
Are you hereabouts?
josef nix
January 25th, 2010
4:33 pm
LA
Ole Teddy didn’t care much for the Nobel Savage, that’s for sure…
Kamchak
January 25th, 2010
4:35 pm
The thread topic? And…?
I think Jay made his point with–You don’t often see this, a primary challenge to a party’s most recent presidential nominee.
How many times has this happened? Has a presidential nominee ever been defeated in a primary challenge.No snark intended
AmVet
January 25th, 2010
4:35 pm
NumerIninja, note that nobody comments nor disagrees. At least the cogent…
josef, welcome.
Another day in paradise, no?
Except my leg is getting sticky…
Ew.
Jackie
January 25th, 2010
4:36 pm
@Police Line
To Jackie (from previous thread discussion) :
Just in case you missed my reply:
1) Sorry dogface but the decision to bottle up the 26th Marines at Khe Sahn (instead of keeping those battalions manuerverable) belongs to your Army General William Westmoreland (surely you have heard of him – our commanding general in Vietnam?). The Marine generals in Vietnam argued strongly against that but lost due to the chain of command.
Regardless of who made the decision, the Marines were at Khe Sahn with their hips in a sling. And as far as being manuverable, how would you manuver, in an noisey APC in the jungles and mountains that the I-Corp presented. Is that why they moved the Marines back to Da Nang area.
And as far as Marines not being designed for jungle warfare I guess you never heard of all the island campaigns (i.e., Guadalcanal) in WWII? All of our training in infantry school when I went through was designed for jungle warfare because that’s where we were going. Plus, it can be argued the Army in Vietnam had been generally designed for war in Europe!
Again, you are referencing WWII tactics. The military knew they could not continue with battle lines and tactical movements of entire divisions blocking advances and retreats of enemy soldiers, that is why they devised the Airmobile concept, hence the birth of the 1st Cavalry Division.
My Marine friends, who were lifers, tell me differently.
Good grief ……… you need some history lessons.
As for history lessons, I think your reading should be more comprehensive.
2) My personal experiences on supply problems, what I ate almost everyday, etc., etc. still stand.
If you ate C-rats everyday and did not have a hot meal along with being in water and mud everyday, then you were either abused or you are not telling the truth. Did you ever rotate back to base camp? Did you ever make it back to Hue, Phu Bai, Da Nang? Your story just does not make any sense and you seem to think that everyone needs to believe that you were Superman!
3) You would argue with a signpost but that’s o.k. ……….. and kind of funny.
Signpost? It has nothing on it that is factual. Your GPS is malfunctioning and you still want everyone to believe that North is South.
4) Get this. It might help you: http://www.dummies.com/store/product/The-Vietnam-War-For-Dummies.productCd-0764554808.html
Why would I need this book when I was there. Maybe this is where you got your information.
When you get the chance, talk with Ridgerunner about his experience in the ‘Nam and how the 1st Cav. handled his situation. It appears your experience and his are vastly different. Along with that, he was 3rd Marines. Betcha’ it would be interest to hear him take your crap off the wall and kick it to the curb.
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LA
January 25th, 2010
4:38 pm
“Except my leg is getting sticky…
Ew.”
tick…..tick……tick
josef nix
January 25th, 2010
4:40 pm
** liberals don’t give their own money to others in need.**
Wanna review this households books?
AmVet–
Ain’t it just! Spent way too much of my day tusslin’ with the bureaucrats…ready and rarin’ to go
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:41 pm
“Ole Teddy didn’t care much for the Nobel Savage, that’s for sure…”
Well, he chased off the Spanish. Guess he didn’t need his lawn mowed…..
(that was a joke libs)
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:41 pm
“Wanna review this households books?”
Sure, post all of your charitable gift info on this blog.
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2010
4:43 pm
Well, he chased off the Spanish. Guess he didn’t need his lawn mowed…..
Racists like to make fun of other races.
josef nix
January 25th, 2010
4:44 pm
LA–
The charitable donations are not food for this blog…but they’re five figure and are mostly to American Indian and Jewish things–specifically education…
Mowing the yard! Thass a good one!
Normal
January 25th, 2010
4:45 pm
Josef, gotcha
Dusty
January 25th, 2010
4:47 pm
josef,
You are late to the circus. McCain has already been tortured again and thrown to the dogs here.. I wonder if Americans are the only ones who love to demean a man who has fought bravely for his country and then governed fairly afterwards.
Some here really hate a good record.. Preferential politics at its worst. Oh well, ” Ours is not to question why. Ours is but to …”(demean & defy??).
Sorry ELECTRICIAN, but I had to use that last partial quote………
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:48 pm
“Racists like to make fun of other races.”
LOL! Again, another lib proves another point.
TaxPayer, that was A JOKE!
josef nix
January 25th, 2010
4:49 pm
Dusty–
Well, John McCain’s record on Indian things is second-to-none and his wife and daughter are taking a strong stand in favor of me and Unmentionable…’Sides that, he’s got roots in my home turf…
Jackie
January 25th, 2010
4:49 pm
@Police Line
By the way, you indicated the 1st Cav was known by the call sign “Gerry Owen.”
For your information, the Division is known as “The First Team.” Gerry Owen was a call sign for any unit in-country that was in severe trouble and needed immediate help. The 1st Cav was assigned this moniker because it was our duty to respond TO ANY situation when this call was sent over the radio.
From this, I would conclude that you do not quite understand what the distress signal was used for in Viet Nam and why it was used.
Where did you take your basic training?
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:50 pm
“The charitable donations are not food for this blog…but they’re five figure and are mostly to American Indian and Jewish things–specifically education…”
As far as American Indians are concerned, I didn’t know that spending money in casinos counted as charitable gifts.
“Jewish things–specifically education”
Uh oh, well, I’ll give you fair warning that many libs hate everything Jewish. IE: Israel.
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:51 pm
Jackie
Are you a history teacher? History major perhaps?
AmVet
January 25th, 2010
4:51 pm
Jackie, FWIW (And gawd knows it ain’t much!), I and I presume MANY others here, find little more repulsive that those who are so obsessed with another’s military service that they slander, insult and impugn it at will.
This is of course a very prevalent, long standing and widely known defect among several of the far right wingers on this blog. The record of such liars proves this over and over and over.
And though most of course, are just bitter and envious little boys, I was dismayed to see Del do so earlier.
But then look at who they learned this technique from – their Swiftboating and Rovian “leaders”.
I guess the only thing that is consistent among the Republicraven is that this disgusting characteristic is not reserved just for Democrats such as Max Cleland – they did and do the same thing to Chuck Hagel and John McClain.
They just seem to hate any and all active duty veterans, ESPECIALLY combat veterans.
Support the Troops.
Time for them to become a…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHerQxG63Bw
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:57 pm
“they did and do the same thing to Chuck Hagel and John McClain.”
John McClain was great in Die Hard!
By the way, I only point out the hypocrisy in certain bloggers who pretend to be a “real american hero” all while calling others, trolls, reicht wingers etc……..
“They just seem to hate any and all active duty veterans, ESPECIALLY combat veterans.”
What a sad sad individual you are.
josef nix
January 25th, 2010
4:58 pm
LA–
I steer real clear of the casinos, gambling is la malaise juive, ya’ know…now Unmentionable likes to go “Buffalo Hunting from time to time…” He likes the golf course at Dancing Rabbit Creek…
So called liberals and Jews..got a lot to say there, but I’m not out to go poking the Bruin today and, well, we do have some liberal anti-semites hanging around…we’ll go into that at a later date…
Police Line Do Not Cross
January 25th, 2010
4:58 pm
Jackie:
1) Marines in Nam didn’t have APC’s (we had a few tanks and Amtracs and our trucks but those stayed near the coast).
Our helos. (usually SeaKnights) dropped us off and we “walked” ………… sometimes we were out for weeks. Re-supply was kept to a minimum so as not to give away positions but alas you had to do it by helo.
2) You still try to put words in my mouth (no pun intended). One more time – now pay attention ……… Marine grunts in Northern I Corps (DMZ area) probably ate C-Rations every day for 80-90% of their time in Nam ……… even at the forward fire bases like Con Thien. You couldn’t congregate together in a “mess tent” as in that area you were always within artillery range from North Vietnam or their side of the DMZ (not to mention rockets or mortars).
And of course it didn’t rain everyday and the dry season in I Corps was the opposite of that in the south.
3) I got my standard 3 day R&R (China Beach) and one 5 day out of country R&R (Okinawa). That was it. Other than that I was either on operations in the field or providing security/patrols at a forward fire base (eating C-Rations pal !)
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:01 pm
josef nix
I was just kidding with the casino remark.
Police Line Do Not Cross
January 25th, 2010
5:01 pm
P.S. I said Gerry Owen just to be nice. I don’t know all of your Army lingo anymore than you know ours. What I do know is that a helicopter is a means of transportation (same as a truck, parachute or landing craft). It’s what you do when your feet hit the ground that counts.
San Diego (in our parlance that makes me a “Hollywood Marine”).
Salt & Light
January 25th, 2010
5:04 pm
Headline: “Obama Uses Teleprompters During Speech at Elementary School” Good grief !
Headline: “Scientist: Search for aliens should start on Earth” I know where they can find one who migrated from Kenya.
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:08 pm
Best. Poll. Ever…
CNN Poll: Most Americans applaud Democrats’ loss of supermajority
Americans are divided on whether Democratic control of Congress is good for the country, according to a new national poll.
A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Monday also indicates that 7 in 10 Americans believe that the Democrats’ loss of their 60 seat supermajority in the Senate is a positive move for the country.
Forty-five percent of people questioned in the poll said Democratic control of Congress is a good thing, with 48 percent disagreeing. The margin is within the survey’s sampling error. But the results are a shift from last June, when 50 percent felt that Democratic control of both chambers of Congress was good and 41 percent felt it was bad for the country.
Pogo
January 25th, 2010
5:09 pm
Amvet should be more aptly named “Don Quixote”. It must be safe and warm there straddling the political fence with only extravagant and overused words as evidence of your crusade against all that, at least in your eyes, is unholy. If you are progressive, which I suspect that you are, then come out and say it. Liberate yourself man(then again,I think you are already plenty liberal, you just won’t admit it)! Your writings reek of the tired old “We got to get THE MAN” mindset. I always wondered exactly who the man was. Far as I can tell “THE MAN” employs most of us (though I wouldn’t expect that to gain any sympathy from the leaches in our society who exist off of the goverment) so we can pay taxes to pay for all the government’s spending. Yea, “The Man” is the bad guy. It’s just that black and white, isn’t it?
josef nix
January 25th, 2010
5:09 pm
LA
Not to worry! I took it as such…and before anybody comes along accusing you of being a racist for it, Unmentionable says he wishes he COULD write off his casino losses as a contribution! Actually, though, he does pretty well there…he allots a certain amount to play with and, once it’s spent, he tallies and goes to play golf…I don’t have that control…
AmVet
January 25th, 2010
5:11 pm
Almost as prescient as Lincoln, all the following are from Theodore Roosevelt…
“A good many of you are probably acquainted with the old proverb, “Speak softly and carry a big stick — you will go far.” If a man continually blusters, if he lacks civility, a big stick will not save him from trouble, and neither will speaking softly avail, if back of the softness there does not lie strength, power.”
The true friend of property, the true conservative, is he who insists that property shall be the servant and not the master of the commonwealth; who insists that the creature of man’s making shall be the servant not the master of the man who made it. The citizens of the United States must effectively control the mighty commercial forces which they themselves have called into being.
It is essential that there should be organizations of labor. This is an era of organization. Capital organizes and therefore labor must organize.
There can be no effective control of corporations while their political activity remains. To put and end to it will be neither a short nor an easy task, but it can be done.
A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy.
No man can be a good citizen unless he has a wage more than sufficient to cover the bare cost of living, and hours of labor short enough so that after his day’s work is done he will have time and energy to bear his share in the management of the community. We keep countless men from being good citizens by the conditions of life by which we surround them.
Dusty
January 25th, 2010
5:12 pm
Well, josef,
I’m glad McCain supports many good things. American Indians have brought me many happy summers. They hold a special “place” for me.
But I ’specially admire McCain for the service he has given to this country. That demands respect as far as I am concerned. But, we dismiss anything when it comes to political posturing.
Now, I shall throw on my orange shorts and dance into the kitchen. Feed the hungry! I shall cook it, burn it, and serve it.. Bon appetit or something…
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:14 pm
“A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy.”
We’re not a democracy. The problem is people like AmVet who pretend to know our nations history.
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:15 pm
“There can be no effective control of corporations while their political activity remains. To put and end to it will be neither a short nor an easy task, but it can be done.”
AmVet, like every other democrat, doesn’t realize that the majority of Americans work for a company.
@@
January 25th, 2010
5:15 pm
Berry: Obama said “big difference” between ‘10 and ‘94 is “me”
Berry recounted meetings with White House officials, reminiscent of some during the Clinton days, where he and others urged them not to force Blue Dogs “off into that swamp” of supporting bills that would be unpopular with voters back home.
“I’ve been doing that with this White House, and they just don’t seem to give it any credibility at all,” Berry said. “They just kept telling us how good it was going to be. The president himself, when that was brought up in one group, said, ‘Well, the big difference here and in ’94 was you’ve got me.’ We’re going to see how much difference that makes now.”
Obama’s problem is he believes his own hype. He holds the intelligence of American voters in such low regard that he thinks they’ll believe it too. I mean, they did it once…why not again? Fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice? Ain’t ah gonna happen.
Normal
January 25th, 2010
5:17 pm
LA
“A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy.”
He was quoting Teddy…Got history?
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:17 pm
Theodore Roosevelt was a man born into money. Much like Al Gore and JFK.
josef nix
January 25th, 2010
5:17 pm
Pogo
Have you read Don Quijote? I’d say AmVet is a pretty good one..
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:18 pm
“He was quoting Teddy…Got history?”
Ya think?
Normal
January 25th, 2010
5:19 pm
“There can be no effective control of corporations while their political activity remains. To put and end to it will be neither a short nor an easy task, but it can be done.”
Still quoting Teddy…
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2010
5:19 pm
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:48 pm
“Racists like to make fun of other races.”
LOL! Again, another lib proves another point.
TaxPayer, that was A JOKE!
If I had said the same thing, I would have been labeled a racist by some here no matter what explanation I offered. Besides, I’m not a lib or liberal or whatever. Anyway, like I said, racists do like to make fun of other races. Wouldn’t you agree with that statement.
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:20 pm
“Still quoting Teddy…”
No kidding, and AmVet thinks that what TR says is gospel.
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:21 pm
“If I had said the same thing, I would have been labeled a racist by some here no matter what explanation I offered.”
Considering that you were the only one to post a remark about racism…………….
“Anyway, like I said, racists do like to make fun of other races. ”
Yes, AmVet does that on an almost daily basis.
Normal
January 25th, 2010
5:21 pm
LA,
While I will agree with Josef, that TR was not Fierce Advocate for the Native Americans. you could do well to study TR. He did some great things and I would vote for a Republican like him.
AmVet
January 25th, 2010
5:22 pm
“If you are progressive, which I suspect that you are, then come out and say it.” ~The non-comic (which is no compliment) Pogo
“A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy.” ~Theodore Roosevelt.
Jesus, man you really are clueless. I have indicted numerous others here as not just non-progressives, or anti-progressives but actually “regressives”. So what do think that makes me?
So go back to your beloved McCarthyism and Jim Crow, but you won’t find me there…
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2010
5:24 pm
McCain promised that he would chase bin Laden to the gates of hell IF he were elected. He said he knew how to get bin Laden. Since McCain was not elected, he obviously felt no obligation to his country and to those that lost their lives due to the efforts of bin Laden. For that alone, I will never respect McCain. Such actions are inexcusable no matter how desperate one is to win the White House. Which leads to SayRah. His second most inexcusable act.
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:25 pm
“He did some great things and I would vote for a Republican like him.”
Read Theodore Rex. Good read but he was not that great of a president. And considering that you only vote democrat, I’ll take your remarks with a grain of salt.
AmVet
January 25th, 2010
5:26 pm
josef, Normal and others, obsessed doesn’t even begin to describe him.
Wouldn’t you agree?
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:27 pm
“Jesus, man you really are clueless. I have indicted numerous others here as not just non-progressives, or anti-progressives but actually “regressives”. So what do think that makes me?”
That makes you an angry liberal who hates white people.
Proof that you think all white people are evil: So go back to your beloved McCarthyism and Jim Crow, but you won’t find me there…
1: You make baseless accusations against other people all while spewing hate.
2: To me, you’re just another angry liberal who blames white people for everything.
Again, throwing out crap like “jim crow” to someone paint me as a racist is pretty retarded considering you constantly rail on white people.
josef nix
January 25th, 2010
5:28 pm
“I suppose I should be ashamed to say that I take the Western view of the Indian. I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn’t like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian. Turn three hundred low families of New York into New Jersey, support them for fifty years in vicious idleness, and you will have some idea of what the Indians are. Reckless, revengeful, fiendishly cruel, they rob and murder…”
–T. Roosevelt
Normal
January 25th, 2010
5:29 pm
LA,
You are a hoot. How in the blue blazes to you presume to know how I vote? Yes sir you are certainly the whole nine yards…
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:29 pm
“obsessed doesn’t even begin to describe him.”
Nope, I like to call you out for what you.
eagle scout
January 25th, 2010
5:30 pm
I see Jackie and Police Line Do Not Cross are still going at it over who served, and where. Guys this ended 40 some years ago.
Y’all hanging out at the Legion or the VFW fighting this GD war again?
Jackie as a member of FIRST TEAM based out of An Khe 1965-1966 Air Mobile 229th Air Assault I’m with you all the way brother….. Although I was not a grunt I shared some of the c-rats, and warm beer with the best of them………..
I wore that horse patch on my flight jacket proudly. And still have a decal on my bumper.
But,
AmVet
January 25th, 2010
5:30 pm
“Big business is not dangerous because it is big, but because its bigness is an unwholesome inflation created by privileges and exemptions which it ought not to enjoy.” ~Woodrow Wilson
“Don’t blame Bush, nobody saw this coming.” ~Dick Cheney
Tick, tick, tick… ~Kamchak
TaxPayer
January 25th, 2010
5:31 pm
LA
January 25th, 2010
4:41 pm
“Ole Teddy didn’t care much for the Nobel Savage, that’s for sure…”
Well, he chased off the Spanish. Guess he didn’t need his lawn mowed…..
(that was a joke libs)
There’s nothing racist in that comment at least according to the one that even felt it necessary to add the little line about it being a joke. Like I said, racists do like to joke about other races. Wouldn’t you agree, LA.
LA
January 25th, 2010
5:31 pm
“You are a hoot. How in the blue blazes to you presume to know how I vote? Yes sir you are certainly the whole nine yards…”
1: Because of you’ve told me to calm down in my criticism of Obama and democrats.
2: You’ve sided with almost every democrat position. IE: health care, wars etc…