A Ga. politician willing to sacrifice for the public good

Politicians are criticized a lot these days for looking out for their own well-being rather than that of the people they are elected to represent. That’s particularly true for members of the Georgia General Assembly, which in recent months has suffered repeated blows to its already battered reputation.

Given all that, I think it’s important to note when somebody in politics stands up and does the right thing, especially when doing the right thing comes at a high personal cost.
Take, for example, House Majority Leader Jerry Keen.

Last week, Keen went on record as supporting legislation putting a $100 limit on individual gifts from lobbyists to state legislators. That was mighty nice and ethical of him. It also ought to silence all those cynics out there who claim that our elected leaders aren’t willing to share in the sacrifices that are being demanded of all of us these days. To advance the cause of good government, Keen for one is willing to accept a significant reduction in the lifestyle to which he has become accustomed.

To fully appreciate Keen’s willingness to sacrifice on behalf of the people of Georgia, it helps to know some recent history, as documented in lobbyist disclosure reports.

Those reports tell us that on March 10 of last year, to cite just one example, lobbyist “Skin” Edge treated Keen to a nice little dinner at an unnamed restaurant. The bill for Keen’s meal and drinks?

$303.60.

On Valentine’s Day, lobbyist Delores Gallego of Delta Air Lines supplied Keen with tickets to Cirque du Soleil.

Value: $215.

On April 30, Scott Draper of Georgia Power treated Keen to a round of golf at what must have been a very nice course.

Value: $230.

On Oct. 1, Ted Lawrence of AT&T had the pleasure of watching Keen enjoy dinner and refreshments at yet another fine dining establishment.

Price: $306.

All told, the St. Simons Republican and former state chair of the Christian Coalition accepted more than $7,000 in gifts of $100 or more from lobbyists in 2009.

Yet out of his devotion to public service, Keen has volunteered to surrender all of that.

Well, OK. Maybe not all of it.

Last year, Keen accepted another 55 gifts — mainly dinners and golf rounds — costing lobbyists between $40 and $100. In June, for example, there was the $73.77 dinner at Morton’s Steakhouse in Nashville, courtesy of a Blue Cross/Blue Shield lobbyist. In April, Georgia Power spent $87.13 to buy Keen dinner on the same day it bought him that $230 golf round.

(I don’t know what the occasion might have been. Maybe they were celebrating something — something like, say, their success in passing a controversial bill that allows Georgia Power to start charging its customers for nuclear plants long before the plants are built.

Georgia Power had spent a lot of money pushing that bill, lavishing $8,000 on legislators in the three months before the legislative session even began. After the bill passed, Keen rejected suggestions that legislators had caved to lobbyists.

“I’ve heard the media say there was pressure,” Keen said last February. “I never heard it, saw it, felt it at all.”)

Under ethics reform legislation sponsored by state Rep. Wendell Willard of Sandy Springs, Keen and his colleagues would still be able to accept as many of those sub-$100 gifts as they can fit into their busy social schedules. While House Bill 920 would prohibit elected officials from accepting any single gift worth more than $100, it puts no limit on the number of sub-$100 gifts that can be offered and accepted.

Those smaller gifts add up. Last year, Keen got $5,333 in gifts costing less than $100.

A competing bill, proposed by state Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver of Decatur, would lower that limit to $25. But without public pressure, that bill is considered much less likely to become law.

I guess I can understand that. Having already agreed to surrender those hugely lavish dinners and golf rounds, legislators find the idea of a $25 limit just too tough to swallow.

Certainly, it’s harder to swallow than a 6-ounce tenderloin of Kobe beef, broiled medium rare over an open flame, then covered in shallots simmered in a port wine sauce ($95) and washed down by a bottle of 2005 Grand-Puy-Lacoste ($110), paid for by Georgia Power.

Just to propose a hypothetical example.

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I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

January 22nd, 2010
8:24 am

All this fills me with nostalgia for leaders of yore. Men of dignity who, having once made the grade, ceased to degrade their predecessors. Indeed it was just eight years ago that President George W. Bush welcomed the Clintons to the White House for the dedication of the Clinton portrait. There he spoke glowingly of the man inside the frame, applauding him for having mined high achievement from humble beginnings. This is how people of class operate. A good leader wears a white hat and stands tall; he does not wear a yellow hat and blame everything curious on George.-AmSpec

Grow up, dummycrats.

FinnMcCool

January 22nd, 2010
8:27 am

No money spent at the Cheetah?

jeez. Where are his priorities?

Outhouse GoKart

January 22nd, 2010
8:32 am

YEA! What Finn said.

stands for decibels

January 22nd, 2010
8:33 am

What’s truly stupefying about this is how so few politicians have been shamed into voluntarily setting similar limits.

I must conclude that we Americans have a very high tolerance for being abused, nay, mocked, by our elected officials. We talk a good game about wanting our guys to be “regular guys” but, well, we don’t really seem to care enough to ever do anything about it, to punish those who feed at this trough.

Outhouse GoKart

January 22nd, 2010
8:33 am

Somehow Im not surprised…

Air America Radio closing, filing for bankruptcy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_air_america_bankruptcy

Southern Comfort

January 22nd, 2010
8:33 am

I agree. If there were no Cheetah offerings, he got hosed!!!

@@

January 22nd, 2010
8:34 am

a controversial bill that allows Georgia Power to start charging its customers for nuclear plants long before the plants are built.

And how, pray tell, does this differ from, what was to be, Obamacare?

Granny Godzilla

January 22nd, 2010
8:35 am

and we are going to enlarge the trough.

freakin’ delighful.

Outhouse GoKart

January 22nd, 2010
8:35 am

Accepting gifts is a tough one. Some might say accepting gifts is same as bribery and others would differ from that opinon.

Mick

January 22nd, 2010
8:37 am

It’s good to be the king or in our time elected politicians. I’m still waiting for someone to pick up my tab at Joe’s stone crabs come super bowl week.

Granny Godzilla

January 22nd, 2010
8:38 am

Swami Dave

January 22nd, 2010
8:39 am

So….

around $12,000 in gifts from lobbyists to a state legislator…..bad and worthy of criticism

hundreds of millions in redistributed / cost-shifted TAXPAYER dollars from politicans to other politicians to garner votes attempting to slam through healthcare legislation that the majority of those taxpayers DO NOT WANT…….ok and unchallenged by the collectivist-shill media

Yeah, we got it!

-SD

Taxpayer

January 22nd, 2010
8:40 am

Waiter! Excuse me. Would you be ever so kind and break this bill up into one for the drinks and one for the entree and one for dessert. Thank you and here’s a tip, “get in politics if you want to get ahead.”

But wait! What is this new ruling. Could the middle man get cut out. Could the individual corporations just bypass all those lobbyists and just start bidding directly for the candidate of their choice on the open market. I see a need for a new exchange and a whole new set of possibilites have opened up for derivatives as well. Bundled CDs covering particular groups of congressmen, securitized and AAA-rated. The possibilities.

jt

January 22nd, 2010
8:42 am

@@

Run for Isackson’s seat.

Do it.

Jay

January 22nd, 2010
8:45 am

In most cases, the lobbyists unfortunately don’t include the name of the restaurant on the disclosure form.

Paul

January 22nd, 2010
8:46 am

[[former state chair of the Christian Coalition]]

Maybe he’s finally read the section on repentance and redemption?

Okay, maybe not…..

$100 gifts with no limit on the number is excessive, while $25 limits won’t pass? Compromise: $100 limit on gifts with no more than 100 gifts a year. The soundbites’ll be on ‘you want more than 100 gifts in a year?!!?”

Taxpayer

January 22nd, 2010
8:47 am

The good old days. As I recall from my days in Corporate America, the Chinese were not the only ones that provided some rather nice gifts. Then someone decided to crack down on it. Christmas just wasn’t the same after that. The little guy once again got the short end of the sthick. The gift givers finally figured out whom to please. Golf became a more popular pasttime… .

Paul

January 22nd, 2010
8:51 am

Sponsors could call it the “100/100″ bill. People won’t concentrate on the sum ($1000) they’ll look at the number of gifts (100) and wonder why anyone would want to support more gifts.

Question: shouldn’t those ‘gifts’ be classified as income and reported for tax purposes? I know parents can gift their kids around $13,000 a year without the kids paying tax, but gifts from nonfamily members? (Oh, and just saying “who’s your daddy?” doesn’t count).

Jay

January 22nd, 2010
8:54 am

Ahem.

Paul, 100 x 100 = 10,000. A mite too steep, I’m thinking.

Granny Godzilla

January 22nd, 2010
8:54 am

Paul

small math error…. 100 gifts worth 100 dollars totals 10,000 dollars

Taxpayer

January 22nd, 2010
8:55 am

Dang it, Jay! I was about to offer Paul $1000 for that deal.

Southern Comfort

January 22nd, 2010
9:00 am

Paul

I’d put the limit at 40 max. That’s the number of days they’re in session, right? Limits them to one gift a day. If that doesn’t sway their vote, new campaign finance laws will allow those lobbyist to help fund a replacement.

Mick

January 22nd, 2010
9:00 am

Jay – how does it work in the news business, do politicians ever try to pick up your tab so maybe you might become more sympathetic to their legislation?

Paul

January 22nd, 2010
9:02 am

Yeah, okay, thanks, halfway through the first cup of coffee, if that’s a good enough excuse….

Lessee, then… if one whole number ends with a single zero, increase the other number by .1 – wait, that’s not it…. where’s the coffee pot?

I sure hope Bosch and RW and Mrs. Granny don’t see this….

stands for decibels

January 22nd, 2010
9:02 am

100 gifts worth 100 dollars totals 10,000 dollars

Of course, this is how direct cash payments were delivered back in the good old days when you just up ‘n bribed ‘em fair and square.

NRB2

January 22nd, 2010
9:03 am

THe solution is to limit the power and size of government. If government was less powerful, we wouldn’t have to worry about lobbyists in the first place. They’d take their money elsewhere.

And I like how Jay singled out the Repub. ’cause Dems don’t take the money, right? Right.

Taxpayer

January 22nd, 2010
9:03 am

By the way, the best way to avoid the public eye with a lot of those gifts is to travel to China, or wherever. There’s no need to pick on China too much. It’s not like they’re special in any way. Just google lobbyist’s gifts to the visiting congressman and work from there.

Paul

January 22nd, 2010
9:03 am

SoCom

That’s brilliant. Call it “The Gift a Day” bill. 40 days, hundred bucks a day, that’s only, what, $400 dollars? No.. it’s, like, $40,000…. wait, put down a zero, carry the…..aarggghhhhhh…………..

stands for decibels

January 22nd, 2010
9:03 am

I’d put the limit at 40 max.

Ensure that these legislators are paid an adequate salary and ban all gifts, period. You pay for your own lunches, golf, visits to seminars, what have you and expense it back if it’s legit.

Not that difficult.

I mean, if we’re seriously talking about how to cope with this supposed issue, isn’t that the answer?

Jay

January 22nd, 2010
9:05 am

Either the press buys or we split the ticket, Mick. And while they sometimes offer, I don’t think it’s with any evil intent, given that it’s usually just lunch where the tab seldom exceeds $10.

Outhouse GoKart

January 22nd, 2010
9:06 am

Where Im employed there is an allowance for gifts up to $100 in value. No limit on number of…

Years ago we would often receive numerous gifts, nice bottle of McCallan 18 was personal favorite, then one our departmental dumbbells strutted around displaying his latest gift, mgmt found out and put the kybosh on the gift giving in our dept anyway. Was a sad day as I hadnt purchased a bottle of scotch in well over a year.

Oh well…fun while it lasted.

NRB2

January 22nd, 2010
9:06 am

Someone else said it best:

“The AJC, subsidiary of Cox News Corporation, that sinks 1 million dollars a week of it’s own revenue into being a shameless 365 day a year Democrat party propaganda rag, whines about what, the competition?”

Paul

January 22nd, 2010
9:07 am

Back to the serious question: aren’t such gifts considered reportable income for tax purposes? If not, such a bill could be introduced. If they are, maybe a few state tax audits are in order.

Taxpayer

January 22nd, 2010
9:07 am

I think Jay may have been focusing on the more blatantly hypocritic one in the news with this post. Of course, there could be yet another viable answer. Maybe he just figures that someone other than the Ox deserves a little transparency as well.

Jay

January 22nd, 2010
9:09 am

NRB, it was the Dems back when the Dems had power, and I wrote about it a LOT back then. But with the GOP now in firm control, the lobbyists aren’t wasting their cash on those who don’t run things.

Go ahead and try to find a Dem who took anything near to what Keen took. It’s not because they are necessarily more clean; they simply weren’t offered the goodies in the first place.

GoingBroke

January 22nd, 2010
9:09 am

Jay sounds a little jealous that no one is taking him to dinner. :-) Must be that ethical compass that reporters have that everyone else does not seem to have. Gee.. accepting a dinner and golf and being influenced is awful.. Much worse than taking millions from unions.. then giving them a pass on taxes while sticking it to us “little” people. You can being a liar in chief.. and get a pass.. no wonder people are confused..

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2010
9:10 am

“I’d put the limit at 40 max”

And I’d put the limit at a flat dollar amount. That way there’s no finagling with “splitting” the check up. They each get X amount of dollars they can accept, and anything over that results in censure.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 22nd, 2010
9:10 am

Well, heck, I’d settle for a nice supper at Ryans on steak night. And they don’t even serve beer and the dessert comes with the supper, so it would be real cheap for anybody that wanted to buy my vote. But the vote’s there, if any of you canadates want it. Just ask anybody up Cumming way for directions to Simpsons Trailer Park. It’ll be the trailer with the big Ford F-450 and the beer truck parked out front. Old Redneck’s ready to deal when you are.

Have a good day everybody.

Jay

January 22nd, 2010
9:10 am

In fact, without an ethics crusade that I helped generate back in the ’90s, these guys wouldn’t even have to be reporting all this stuff.

Citizen of the World

January 22nd, 2010
9:10 am

Don’t you love it how these politicians are always so “zero tolerance” when it comes to other behaviors, but then, when it comes to treats from lobbyists, which strict ethicists suggest shouldn’t involve so much as a cup of coffee, then it’s, well no, we have to have some latitude, that’s not possible or practical or realistic.

Mick

January 22nd, 2010
9:13 am

Well, I hope your ethics stand strong. I seem to recall in the past administration some big money being forwarded to some favorable columnists.

Taxpayer

January 22nd, 2010
9:14 am

But, Jay, theys gots fambly values to tend to and that costs money.

Mick

January 22nd, 2010
9:15 am

Enter your comments here

Jay

January 22nd, 2010
9:17 am

I’ve never run across anything like that, Mick. The closest came when a top Democrat back in the Tom Murphy days suggested that if we laid off the ethics crusade, they might find a way to fund the downtown multimodal station backed by the AJC edit board.

That conversation ended right there.

NRB2

January 22nd, 2010
9:17 am

Go ahead and try to find a Dem who took anything near to what Keen took. It’s not because they are necessarily more clean; they simply weren’t offered the goodies in the first place.
———————————————–
Jay, perhaps in the state of Georgia, where Dems have almost no power…so how about the Blue states?

Jay

January 22nd, 2010
9:17 am

Where the Dems control, the Dems are the ones courted by the lobbyists, and I’m sure they’re no cleaner than the Rs would be.

NRB2

January 22nd, 2010
9:19 am

Right, but the focus is always on Rs…right? That’s the resonsible “unbiased” news media for you.

And another reason why yesterday’s ruling was the right decision.

GoingBroke

January 22nd, 2010
9:20 am

In fact, without an ethics crusade that I helped generate back in the ’90s, these guys wouldn’t even have to be reporting all this stuff.
____________________________________________________

and a BIG THANK YOU FOR THAT!!! It shows what ONE person can do when they put their mind and pen to it!

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2010
9:20 am

Jay, I think Mick is referring to national politics, not Georgia politics.

Paul

January 22nd, 2010
9:21 am

So even if the direct gift limit has changed, haven’t the rules and effects changed as of yesterday?

“Forget the $100 dinner. You come up for reelection in a year. We can start this ad campaign, we’ve budgeted $100,000 for your race because we believe in the values and projects you believe in.”

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:23 am

“The AJC, subsidiary of Cox News Corporation, that sinks 1 million dollars a week of it’s own revenue into being a shameless 365 day a year Democrat party propaganda rag, whines about what, the competition?”

Best. Comment. Ever.

Paul

January 22nd, 2010
9:23 am

Jay

Let me add my ‘thanks’ to your efforts for reform and the resulting legislation. Not my state, but it is part of the tenor of the country. Shows just one of the reasons we need a strong, healthy press.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:24 am

Jay, did you hear about how John Edwards may get up to 20 years in prison?

Still want to talk about how stupid Palin is?

Taxpayer

January 22nd, 2010
9:25 am

Did Saxby get his bags of Imperial sugar-coated peanuts delivered via FA-22 this year. I mean, what’s the point if you can’t get the perks. Has anyone broke the news to him about those tanning beds. I heard the maker of the bed has issued a peer-reviewed study refuting those rumors that some folks have been spreading. It’s about like those things that some folks say about electromagnetic radiation. Just wait until the cell phone companies issue their scientific studies if you want the truth.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:25 am

“how does it work in the news business, do politicians ever try to pick up your tab so maybe you might become more sympathetic to their legislation?”

Mick, that is a great question!
Kudos to you!

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:26 am

Chris Matthews:

“Obama sends a thrill up my leg”

“I want to do everything in my power to help Obama succeed.”

Yep Mick, I believe you have a GREAT point.

Paul

January 22nd, 2010
9:27 am

LA

Palin’s still on stage. Edwards has left the building.

Heard Rudy Guliani interviewed the other day. Was asked about the Edwards case. His response was along the lines of “He’s not in public now, he’s out and it’s a private matter concerning his personal life. Next question.”

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:27 am

Obama the Commie….

Obama Seen as Anti-Business by 77% of U.S. Investors

Jan. 22 (Bloomberg) — U.S. investors overwhelmingly see President Barack Obama as anti-business and question his ability to manage a financial crisis, according to a Bloomberg survey.

The global quarterly poll of investors and analysts who are Bloomberg subscribers finds that 77 percent of U.S. respondents believe Obama is too anti-business and four-out-of-five are only somewhat confident or not confident of his ability to handle a financial emergency.

The poll also finds a decline in Obama’s overall favorability rating one year after taking office. He is viewed favorably by 27 percent of U.S. investors. In an October poll, 32 percent in the U.S. held a positive impression.

“Investors no longer feel they can trust their instincts to take risks,” said poll respondent David Young, a managing director for a broker dealer in New York. Young cited Obama’s efforts to trim bonuses and earnings, make health care his top priority over jobs and plans to tax “the rich or advantaged.”

Jay

January 22nd, 2010
9:28 am

There’s no fixed limit to stupidity, LA. The fact that Edwards is stupid — and deserves whatever he has coming to him — in no way affects the amount of stupidity in other politicians.

md

January 22nd, 2010
9:28 am

Since we are talking abuse, even the Clinton News Network chimed in on our esteemed House leader – cnn seems to be making the shift to the center for survival, unlike some others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_i-vXZU7ZQ

Cafferty doesn’t hide his disdain one bit.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:28 am

“Palin’s still on stage. Edwards has left the building.”

True, but I was making a point that Jay often ignores the idiots of his own party.

William Jefferson, Elliot Spitzer, Blago and Edwards all come to mind.

Mick

January 22nd, 2010
9:29 am

**I’ve never run across anything like that**

Maybe, someday you will, it would be mighty tempting but any monetary compensation could never buy what you would lose. Keep up your good work, its getting to be few and far in between.

Taxpayer

January 22nd, 2010
9:30 am

How’s Newt doing these days.

TnGelding

January 22nd, 2010
9:30 am

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

January 22nd, 2010
8:24 am

Same to you, my friend.

Why should they be allowed to accept any gifts? And anyone that voted for that sweetheart deal for GA Power needs to be voted out of office, if not jailed.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:30 am

“The fact that Edwards is stupid — and deserves whatever he has coming to him — in no way affects the amount of stupidity in other politicians.”

Ahhhhhh, but there lies the problem Jay.

I’m going to take a WILD guess and say that you supported the ambulance chaser in 2004. THAT leads me to believe that ignore what your own party does and instead, go after a woman who hasn’t been convicted for any wrong doing.

md

January 22nd, 2010
9:31 am

“Forget the $100 dinner. You come up for reelection in a year. We can start this ad campaign, we’ve budgeted $100,000 for your race because we believe in the values and projects you believe in.”

Wasn’t that the msm during the last election?

Outhouse GoKart

January 22nd, 2010
9:31 am

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:24 am

LOL…ya, john john been a bad boy…LOL. Just imagine if that idiot had been elected as Pres or VP and this “old news” came to light. What a mess that would have been.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:31 am

“How’s Newt doing these days.”

Who cares? That guy has shot himself in the foot and NO conservative should ever vote for him if he ever runs for office again.

Supporting Dede Scozzafava was the nail in his coffin.

NRB2

January 22nd, 2010
9:32 am

LA, to be fair, Jay has to cater to his reading audience. You know, the homeless guy who lays down in Marta train #23282 after a hard night of panhandling, as he lays the newspaper over his head to go nighty-night Jay’s column is the last thing he sees.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:32 am

“Just imagine if that idiot had been elected as Pres or VP and this “old news” came to light. What a mess that would have been.”

Obama dodged a HUGE bullet when he decided to go with Hair Plugs as his VP running mate.

Outhouse GoKart

January 22nd, 2010
9:32 am

Taxpayer

January 22nd, 2010
9:30 am

Newt wanted me to tell you hello.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:33 am

“Jay has to cater to his reading audience. You know, the homeless guy who lays down in Marta train #23282 after a hard night of panhandling, as he lays the newspaper over his head to go nighty-night Jay’s column is the last thing he sees.”

You left out the Parrots and Cockatoos who’s cages are lined with the op-ed section of the AJC.

TnGelding

January 22nd, 2010
9:34 am

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:27 am

He isn’t anti-business. He’s against fraud, greed and risky schemes. He does need to understand we all have to start paying higher taxes, tho, not just the filthy rich. Even the filthy poor, if just a dollar a week.

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2010
9:35 am

I haven’t seen anything yet about Edwards being tried for anything. What’s the accusation?

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:35 am

Yet……another reason government is stupid.

TSA worker in trouble for planting white powder on airline passenger.

Daniel Rubin: It was no joke at security gate

In the tense new world of air travel, we’re stripped of shoes, told not to take too much shampoo on board, frowned on if we crack a smile.

The last thing we expect is a joke from a Transportation Security Administration screener – particularly one this stupid.

Rebecca Solomon is 22 and a student at the University of Michigan, and on Jan. 5 she was flying back to school after holiday break. She made sure she arrived at Philadelphia International Airport 90 minutes before takeoff, given the new regulations.

She would be flying into Detroit on Northwest Airlines, the same city and carrier involved in the attempted bombing on Christmas, just 10 days before. She was tense.

What happened to her lasted only 20 seconds, but she says they were the longest 20 seconds of her life.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20100121_Daniel_Rubin__It_was_no_joke_at_security_gate.html

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:35 am

“He’s against fraud, greed and risky schemes.”

So he’s against himself?

NRB2

January 22nd, 2010
9:36 am

Obama said in his own book that “the private sector is the enemy”.

And no we don’t need higher taxes. The government needs to spend less. They need to be cut off and lopped off at the knees and left destitute and begging. They only deserve 1/10th of what they currently steal from us.

10% flat tax NOW. I don’t even care if it’s not enough money for them. They’ll just have to figure out how to get by.

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2010
9:36 am

“What a mess that would have been.”

Why would it be a mess? He would resign, like Nixon, and we would go on…just like after Nixon. Our political system is robust enough to deal with any such issues.

Paul

January 22nd, 2010
9:36 am

LA 9:26

[[William Jefferson, Elliot Spitzer, Blago and Edwards all come to mind.]]

Unless you’re returned under a new moniker, I believe all those cases occurred before you made an appearance on this blog? So unless you reviewed the threads going back some years, that’s quite an assumption to make.

Jay took the position Pres Clinton should’ve been out over the Lewinsky affair. You may want to chew on that for a while -

Taxpayer

January 22nd, 2010
9:37 am

Newt wanted me to tell you hello

Strange bedfellows you keep there. Or did he just stop by to unload on you. As for me, I’ve never met him.

Jay

January 22nd, 2010
9:38 am

What page did he say that on, NRB?

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:39 am

Boortz says it best:

Now starts the whining. Democrats can’t wrap their brains around this one. They are perfectly willing to accept Supreme Court decisions like Kelo v. New London, because that essentially empowers the government. But when it comes to protecting the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and empowering the private sector rather than government … n a lot of Democrats to stand up and fight for that.

Barack Obama, for example, is extremely upset with the decision. He warns that he will work with Congress to come up with a “forceful response” to this ruling.

Democrat Rep. Chris Van Hollen went as far as to say that the ruling is “un-American.”

Senator Chuck Schumer says that he will hold hearings to figure out how Congress can still limit corporate spending on elections, despite the Supreme Court decision. Democrat Rep. Chris Van Hollen says that he will do the same in the House.

And Ralph Nader’s group by the name of Public Citizen has called for a Constitutional Amendment! The group wants an amendment “specifying that for-profit corporations are not entitled to First Amendment protections, except for freedom of the press … today’s decision so imperils our democratic well-being, and so severely distorts the rightful purpose of the First Amendment, that a constitutional corrective is demanded.”

Mick

January 22nd, 2010
9:40 am

John edwards was always small potatoes and never mounted a serious challenge this last election cycle. He has been assigned to the dust bin of political history along with palin.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:40 am

“Unless you’re returned under a new moniker, I believe all those cases occurred before you made an appearance on this blog? So unless you reviewed the threads going back some years, that’s quite an assumption to make.”

Call it a hunch, Paul, but from all the anti-Palin Cheney rhetoric, I’d say it’s safe to assume that Jay never talked about those guys.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:42 am

“Jay took the position Pres Clinton should’ve been out over the Lewinsky affair. You may want to chew on that for a while -”

Is that true, Jay?

The problem I had with that whole scenario was the fact that he lied to the grand jury.

Del

January 22nd, 2010
9:42 am

Still much crying and gnashing of teeth over the Supremes decision or least 5 who believe in the Constitution. You would think that the left would be pleased with this ruling, after all big corporations are getting bought off by the far-left Obama administration. Duped, however, might better describe this affair between B.O. and big business. look at G.E., Progressive Insurance to name a few. Obama is now lord and master over G.M. He duped the insurance and pharmaceutical industry into supporting his health care reform including the AARP who in reality is a big insurance company. The left believes that this restoration of free speech will give financial clout through big business to put republicans in office reducing the clout from big money supporters of left wing democrats. Come on…just look back a few days to the Bay State election. Big money didn’t drive a spike into the heart of Obama’s biggest pending socialist program since the New Deal and Great Society, it was the regular folk’s who stood up and said we’re fed up with big government, back room deals and all the chicanery that’s been coming from the White House and leftist democrat controlled congress. The far left should really be afraid of the American people who once again said that we don’t want socialism in America but as always they’ll deny that message.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:43 am

More from Boortz

Top contributor overall:

Lawyers and Law Firms. 83% of their contributions to Democrats.

Top Republican Industry:

Health Professionals. 63% of their contributions to Democrats. (That’s right … even the top contributor to Republicans gives more to Democrats,)

Top Democrat Industries:

Lawyers and Law Firms again.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:44 am

HELL HATH FROZEN OVER

Vulnerable Democrats ask Congress, Obama to extend Bush tax cuts

Two House Democrats in tough reelection races are asking Congress and President Barack Obama to extend the Bush administration tax cuts.

Reps. Bobby Bright (D-Ala.) and Mike McMahon (D-N.Y.) asked members in a “Dear Colleague” letter Thursday to support extending the tax cuts, which passed in 2001 and 2003 and are set to expire this year, for at least another two years. Specifically, Bright and McMahon are asking lawmakers to sign a letter to Obama asking him to include the tax cuts in his budget plans for 2010.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/77415-vulnerable-dems-want-extension-of-bush-tax-cuts

Outhouse GoKart

January 22nd, 2010
9:44 am

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:35 am

Perhaps some counseling and a verbal warning will be punishment enough. After all its a govt worker and we can retrain them…blah blah blah. Send the TSA employee walking!

Paul

January 22nd, 2010
9:45 am

LA 9:40

You can rest easy knowing your hunch is incorrect. Corruption and unethical behavior get attention.

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2010
9:45 am

“Still much crying and gnashing of teeth over the Supremes decision or least 5 who believe in the Constitution”

Are we to take it then, that you would agree corporations should start exercising their right to vote? That’s one of the rights of citizenship, after all.

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:45 am

LA

January 22nd, 2010
9:46 am

“You can rest easy knowing your hunch is incorrect. Corruption and unethical behavior get attention.”

Well, if Jay says it’s true then I will take his word for it.

Southern Comfort

January 22nd, 2010
9:46 am

sfd

The 40 cap is the best I can do while under the influence of antibiotics. Once I get well, I’m sure my position will change to something more strict and hardlined.

Mick

January 22nd, 2010
9:47 am

**Top Democrat Industries:

Lawyers and Law Firms again.**

Everybody hates the lawyers – until they need one.
Everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die.

Joey

January 22nd, 2010
9:47 am

LA:
I think Jay wrote about most if not all of those guys. But you are right. Wen Jay looks for an example of bad behavior, or lack of ethics or other undesirable traits, he will almost certainly choose a Republican and ignore the Democrats.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 22nd, 2010
9:49 am

You can have a good steak dinner at Ryan’s for $10. I suspect most of our representatives know that, and I will charitably assume that none of them will compromise any beliefs for a $200 dinner. (That sounds bizarre, anyway – Fogo de Chao is only $50 per plate.) I suspect there are some people in government who have no core beliefs, who can be compromised. But isn’t this all about “gotcha” politics, using some meaningless standard as a basis for getting political opponents? As Massachusetts proved, the voters are smart enough to look at policies, and the politician who does not represent the interests of his constituency will be tossed.

Taxpayer

January 22nd, 2010
9:51 am

Tax cuts! The one unifying cry for Republicans in congress to rally around and say something other than no to. Are they willing to borrow yet more money to fund them though. Could TARP dollars save the day. How about re-directing all that Medicare waste, fraud and abuse to fund them or what about trimming a little more fat from the Dod’s annual 680 billion. Decisions, decisions. It’s time for some C-Span transparency, again. I Object!

getalife

January 22nd, 2010
9:54 am

Paul,

Are you voting for Perry so ya’ll can secede?

Del

January 22nd, 2010
9:55 am

“Are we to take it then, that you would agree corporations should start exercising their right to vote? That’s one of the rights of citizenship, after all.”

I would encourage every citizen to exercise their right to vote, regardless of where they are in life, employed by corporations, small business, in the military, retired, running unions making movies…whatever they do. I hope that I answered your question.