Ladies and gentlemen, our next governor…?
That ever-pandering, always-scheming and impossible-to-embarrass Einstein of elections, that high potentate of principled if profit-turning politicians …
Ladies and gentlemen of the fine state of Georgia, I give you … Nathan “Let’s Make A” Deal!!!!
from the conservative website “Post & e-mail”:
U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal, R-Ga
“Todd Smith, Chief of Staff for Representative Nathan Deal of the United States House of Representatives serving Georgia’s 9th district, has confirmed today that Deal has sent a letter to Barack Hussein Obama requesting him to prove his eligibility for the office of President of the United States of America. The letter was sent electronically the first of December 2009 in pdf format, and Mr. Smith said that Representative Deal has confirmation from Obama’s staff that it has been received. The letter did not have additional signatories. It originated solely from Representative Deal.
Now, what does this mean? This is probably the first time in 233 years of American history that a sitting member of the House of Representatives has officially challenged the legitimacy of a sitting president….one full year into his term.
This forever changes the public discourse.”
I put in two phone calls to Deal’s office this morning, seeking comment and a copy of the letter. Neither has been returned. But as those enthusiastic folks at the Post & email go on to inform us, “The ramifications (of Deal’s decision) are so serious that all laws signed by a putative president are null and void, and soldiers sent into war under his command can be tried as war criminals.”
Such are the idiots to whom Deal — a man I once thought one of the brighter lights in the GOP gubernatorial race — has now given encouragement. Such are the fools he has chosen to placate and woo with this nonsense.
I should also note that the Georgia House delegation has named Deal to lead its efforts in Congress to negotiate an end to our state’s water war with Alabama and Florida. The letter will no doubt impress those in Washington about the quality of leadership in our state and give a big boost to that effort.
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Normal
January 7th, 2010
12:10 pm
Deal? No Deal!
stands for decibels
January 7th, 2010
12:19 pm
a man I once thought one of the brighter lights in the GOP gubernatorial race
What gave you that idea?
Not a rhetorical question; if the guy once seemed reasonable and has turned cuckoo, I’d like to know how that might’ve happened.
Mrs. Godzilla
January 7th, 2010
12:29 pm
Nathan meet Orly.
Normal
January 7th, 2010
12:32 pm
I should also note that the Georgia House delegation has named Deal to lead its efforts in Congress to negotiate an end to our state’s water war with Alabama and Florida.
Here it comes, the Great Southeastern Desert Of Georgia….
RB from Gwinnett
January 7th, 2010
12:35 pm
Enter your comments here Jay, can you think of just 1 good reason why Obama and Co. wouldn’t just put this whole birth certificate thing to rest by making the thing available for viewing by a few notable critics? Just 1? Why not take the opportunity to embarrass the heck out of all the opposition by putting this issue to rest vs. spending capital to defend all these “silly” allegations in court all over the country?
This thing always goes back to the simple addage, “if you don’t have anything to hide, why would you?”
Doggone/GA
January 7th, 2010
12:36 pm
Well…give him the credit he is due. At least he had the nerve to actually ASK, instead of relying on gossip and inuendo. Of course, I think it will be funny if all they do is refer him to the webpage that shows Obama’s birth certificate…but maybe that’s just me.
Mrs. Godzilla
January 7th, 2010
12:37 pm
Via CREW
The 15 most corrupt members of Congress
Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-FL)
Sen. Roland Burris (D-IL)
Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA)
Rep. Nathan Deal (R-GA)
Sen. John Ensign (R-NV)
Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL)
Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA)
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Rep. Alan B. Mollohan (D-WV)
Rep. John P. Murtha (D-PA)
Rep. Charles B. Rangel (D-NY)
Rep. Laura Richardson (D-CA)
Rep. Pete Visclosky (D-IN)
Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Rep. Don Young (R-AK)
Rep. Deal, along with his business partner Ken Cronan, owns a lucrative business, Recovery Services, Inc., that – through a no-bid contract – provides inspection stations to the state for the inspection of salvaged vehicles. The business earned $1.4 million between 2004-2008 and Rep. Deal personally took home $150,000 a year.
In 2008, Georgia Revenue Commissioner Bart Graham took over responsibility for the inspection system and found the operational costs and locations of the inspection stations to be too costly and restrictive. Comm. Graham decided the best course of action was to reform the system and award contracts through a competitive bidding process.
Rep. Deal and his staff, with assistance from Georgia Lieutenant Governor Casey Cagle, arranged meetings with Comm. Graham at which Rep. Deal and his chief of staff were present, to persuade him to reconsider his decisions, including the proposed elimination of $1.7 million that has been allocated for the program. After Comm. Graham’s plan was passed by the Georgia House, Rep. Deal’s chief of staff used his House email to contact Georgia state officials in an effort to stop the plan from passing the state Senate. The money for the program was eventually kept in the budget.
Rep. Deal’s abuse of his position and taxpayer resources to maintain a personally lucrative business deal does not reflect creditably on the House.
http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/summaries/deal.php
WITH A RECORD LIKE THAT….he could be our next Governor!
TW
January 7th, 2010
12:37 pm
Our state flag should be an upside down, brown grocery bag with eye holes cut in it.
Doggone/GA
January 7th, 2010
12:39 pm
“put this whole birth certificate thing to rest by making the thing available for viewing”
He has
stands for decibels
January 7th, 2010
12:41 pm
Nathan meet Orly.
Oily. Oily Taint. Get the name right.
Jay
January 7th, 2010
12:41 pm
sfd, I don’t know how to account for it. I used to cover Deal when he was a state senator here in Georgia, and he seemed a fairly level-headed guy to me.
I don’t know whether he’s lost his moorings or is just desperately trying to pander to his concept of the GOP electorate.
LA
January 7th, 2010
12:41 pm
Mrs. Godzilla, more corrupt democrats than republicans. Who’d of thunk it.
jt
January 7th, 2010
12:42 pm
I’ve never heard of that “conservative website”, and chances are no one else has.
Trying to elect our leaders AND websites.
If this whole thing is true, it will be simple enough for our President to straighten it out. Or not.
And I don’t like mixing our soldiers up with this nonsense. War criminals my azzzzz.
DebbieDoRight
January 7th, 2010
12:44 pm
Give the man a break…………so what if he’s a little loopy? At least he has great looking hair. Take THAT Edwards!!
Where’s the real birth certificate Obama? You can’t fool us forever!!!
Fly-On-The-Wall
January 7th, 2010
12:44 pm
I’m sure all of the conservatives will stand behind this and yell for Obama to prove what Hawaii has already proven. Wow, how far does the right want to take this? Are they will to accept responsibilty for any violence that may occur because they’re at the edge of the cliff now and violence is the only thing left for them to call on.
Taxpayer
January 7th, 2010
12:48 pm
Meet the new old Republicans. They’re well beyond a mere joke. No Deal. I sense a bumper sticker in the making.
Mrs. Godzilla
January 7th, 2010
12:51 pm
1 good reason why Obama and Co. wouldn’t just put this whole birth certificate thing to rest by making the thing available for viewing by a few notable critics…..
Because if he does, next somebody is going to want Sarah Palin to have an OB/GYN exam to verify 5 births.
If you give in to “teh stoopid” you join it.
@@
January 7th, 2010
12:53 pm
Well let’s face it, jay….lack of transparency has become an issue for this president and his administration.
What’s up for grabs behind health care’s door. Do you care, or are you willing to take them at their word?
Having said that, I’m confident in the legitimacy of Obama’s citizenship. It’s the only thing about him, in which I have confidence.
Fly-On-The-Wall
January 7th, 2010
12:53 pm
Mrs. Godzilla,
That’s cold. Funny but cold.
Ridgerunner
January 7th, 2010
12:57 pm
Doggone/Ga:
Since Jay brought this subject up, I’m sorry but I have to correct you. He has not released his “birth certificate” (the document showing the attending physician and hospital of record) but has only released his “certification” of live birth …….. a totally different document. Under Hawaii law at that time, a person could have been born outside the U.S. and still receive both documents.
Now that said, Obama is still qualified to be president of the U.S. because his mother was a U.S. citizen. That is not the issue. Even if he “technically” was not a U.S. citizen no Supreme Court known to man would ever have the guts to rule otherwise ……………….
The real issue is ……… is he an American citizen born in Hawaii or an American citizen born in Kenya? Why does that matter? To some voters in the last election (right or wrong) itwould have made a difference. The American people still deserve to know as we have an election coming up in 2012.
Now ………. before you come back with the two news clipping announcements printed at the time of his birth please note that those were printed by the local newpapers as a result of their daily receipts of “certifications of live birth” from the state ……….. not notifications from parents or hospitals.
This could ALL be cleared up immediately by a release of the actual birth certificate.
P.S. Please note that one hospital claimed Obama was born there while Obama claimed the other hospital (there were only two at the time). In addition, not one person (nurse, doctor, etc.) has ever come forward stating they have knowledge of said birth in Hawaii.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
January 7th, 2010
12:57 pm
So what was obozo’s answer?
DebbieDoRight
January 7th, 2010
12:57 pm
TW: Our state flag should be an upside down, brown grocery bag with eye holes cut in it.
Too funny!!!!
RB from G: jay, can you think of just 1 good reason why Obama and Co. wouldn’t just put this whole birth certificate thing to rest by making the thing available for viewing by a few notable critics? Just 1? Why not take the opportunity to embarrass the heck out of all the opposition by putting this issue to rest vs. spending capital to defend all these “silly” allegations in court all over the country? This thing always goes back to the simple addage, “if you don’t have anything to hide, why would you?”
How dumb is this comment, let me count the ways:
1. Birth Certificate posted on Obama’s website for the past 16 months.
2. The state of Hawaii has said that the birth Certificate posted by Obama is legitmate.
3. The republican gov. of Hawaii says that she has seen the orginal birth certificate on file in the state archives and the one that’s posted by Obama, the only one given out by the State of Hawaii, is a true representation.
4. Why doesn’t he have an ORIGINAL certificate, well probably after 40+ years and lots of traveling he could’ve lost it through the years, (I’ve lost mine and my “certificate of life birth” looks a lot like Obama’s except mine came from a different state); also this could explain it too.
EJ
January 7th, 2010
12:59 pm
Wow, you would think that he had run a prostitution ring out of his office, or sobered up while the passenger in his car died.
Deal has asked for less than what I had to show to get a driver’s license.
N-GA
January 7th, 2010
1:00 pm
SFD,
Georgia Forest Watch has tried working with Nathan Deal on certain Georgia conservation issues. After months of dialog and several promises to help, Rep. Deal now defers to Sen Chambliss on the matters st issue.
It’s kind of ironic….”conservative” politicians not supporting conservation. After all, they are just words. They don’t have to really mean anything!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
January 7th, 2010
1:01 pm
Most observers still see Massachusetts Democratic Attorney General Martha Coakley as the favorite over Republican state Sen. Scott Brown, but the GOP candidate’s recent fundraising has been robust, and one early January poll showed him pulling within 9 percentage points.
Michael Steele, hello.
DebbieDoRight
January 7th, 2010
1:02 pm
This could ALL be cleared up immediately by a release of the actual birth certificate.
AGAIN, why Obama can’t produce his “real” birth certificate…..
Ta da!!! : No, you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.
The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.
The department only issues “certifications” of live births, and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.
And, it’s only available in electronic form.
Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.
“At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.
Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.
“The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests,” Okubo said.
Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.”
“The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models,” she said.
Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”
http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o
January 7th, 2010
1:07 pm
I don’t know nuthin’ ’bout birthin Nobama.
Nothing Is Free
January 7th, 2010
1:08 pm
Well if there’s one thing we don’t want: that’s for any lawmaker to question anything about Barrack Hussan Obama.
How dare he?
Mrs. Godzilla
January 7th, 2010
1:08 pm
Actually, @@, (by the way do you verbalize that? as “at at”?)
He’s done a pretty good job with government tranparency.
Transparency: Change You can Trust
Posted on December 21, 2009
http://www.ombwatch.org/node/10660
He never promised COMPLETE transparency (stupid idea – just make AQ their own set of keys to the pEntagon while you’re at it)
Taxpayer
January 7th, 2010
1:08 pm
I’d say, given some of the comments thus far, that Deal has reached his constituency. Hopefully, he’ll get everything that he deserves. Now, “is you is or is you ain’t my constituency.”
Doggone/GA
January 7th, 2010
1:08 pm
Ridgerunner…here’s a question for you to answer: how likely is it that his parents KNEW he would someday run for President of the US AND knew that his birth would be an issue – so they quick ran over to Hawaii from Kenya to put a birth announcement in a newspaper in that state? Hmmmm?
That’s some kind of foresight, don’t you think? I’m surprised they haven’t won every lottery going with THAT kind of ability to see the future. Amazing people!
mike
January 7th, 2010
1:09 pm
Reading Jay’s “analysis” of local politics, one would think that Democrats don’t exist. Every single one of Jay’s columns about local politics is just another partisan screed against Republicans.
Apparently, Jay really could not care less about the governance of Georgia. All he cares about is bashing people who don’t share his narrow views.
Kamchak
January 7th, 2010
1:10 pm
Birthers and Deniers and Baggers–Oh My!
DebbieDoRight
January 7th, 2010
1:11 pm
This is good. – This was Chris Matthews at his best. The best part is how he gets Campbell to admit that Obama is a US citizen. Campbell is seen for what he really is. A politician that will use hate and fear mongering to pursue his own political aspirations. He looked like a complete idiot. This is a shameful chapter in our history and it is important that we have some journalists with the guts to call these people out so they can be exposed for who they really are.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0709/Matthews_pushes_birth_bill_cosponsor.html
Nothing Is Free
January 7th, 2010
1:14 pm
Mrs. Godzilla
**He never promised COMPLETE transparency*
He DID promise that the health care debates would be on C-span and he promised it 8 times on national TV.
Just admit it. He lied.
How hard is that? A slick arse democrat lawyer from Chicago lied in order to get elected.
You were had. You were a fool to believe that a Chicago lawyer would ever tell the truth. It’s OK. We all know. You were lied to and you bought it.
We all make mistakes. Most of our mistakes will not result in the destruction of our nation’s economy, but we all do make mistakes.
Bosch
January 7th, 2010
1:14 pm
This is all stupid…..I’m watching it snow and eating my hotdog.
mike
January 7th, 2010
1:15 pm
Anyone seen this yet?
“Conservatives Finish 2009 as No. 1 Ideological Group
Uptick owing largely to more independents calling themselves conservative
PRINCETON, NJ — The increased conservatism that Gallup first identified among Americans last June persisted throughout the year, so that the final year-end political ideology figures confirm Gallup’s initial reporting: conservatives (40%) outnumbered both moderates (36%) and liberals (21%) across the nation in 2009.”
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124958/Conservatives-Finish-2009-No-1-Ideological-Group.aspx
Jefferson
January 7th, 2010
1:15 pm
When men start using Republican Women logic, see what happens. (And there’s plenty of them HERE too)
LA
January 7th, 2010
1:15 pm
And……..yet another reason the democrat party is going back to being the minority party.
Nelson: We should have waited on health care
Sen. Ben Nelson said Tuesday it was a mistake for the Obama Administration to take on massive health care reforms in 2009, and suggested efforts would have been better spent addressing the economy.
Nelson, who provided the crucial 60th vote to advance the bill toward Senate passage on Dec. 19, has been active ever since trying to explain his actions to Nebraskans. Ads have aired on television and Nelson is making the rounds with the state’s media.
http://www.fremonttribune.com/articles/2010/01/07/news/local/doc4b44af1b90306516425283.txt
stands for decibels
January 7th, 2010
1:16 pm
Birthers and Deniers and Baggers–Oh My!
The tough bit is tellin’ ‘em apart.
LA
January 7th, 2010
1:17 pm
Chris Matthews averages 300,000 viewers/night.
He came in behind Larry King. Sad
I wonder if Matthews still gets that thrill up his leg like he did in 08.
Jay
January 7th, 2010
1:17 pm
Why is Obama silent?
One of the cardinal rules of politics: Never interfere when your opponents are making fools of themselves.
Hoax and Chains
January 7th, 2010
1:18 pm
Jay’s just angry because Cynthia McKinney won’t come back to GA to run for guvner.
LA
January 7th, 2010
1:19 pm
Bye bye democrats!!!!
Dodd, Dorgan out; 5 other Senate Dems vulnerable
While two Senate Democrats already have seen the handwriting on the wall and bailed out of re-election races, five others trail Republicans in states where President Obama and his trillion-dollar health-care-reform plan are increasingly unpopular
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jan/06/7-senate-democrats-vulnerable/?feat=home_headlines
Guess Who?
January 7th, 2010
1:20 pm
DebbieDoRight:
Again ……… may I clear up something:
The State of Hawaii released the “Certification of Live Birth” with Obama’s permission and it was posted online.
Then a lot of folks started clamouring to see the actual “Birth Certificate” which would contain the additional information of hosptial of record and attending physician.
Then after some time the state official from Hawaii in charge of those records made a public statement that she had “seen” the actual Birth Certificate and “it was in order”. That’s all she said ………. “it was in order”. She could have stated the original birth certificate showed Obama was born in Hawaii. She didn’t say that.
Back then per Hawaii law, one could be born outside the U.S. and one’s parent(s) could petition for a “Birth Certificate” and it would be granted if all conditions were met. Block #23 on that certificate (Reason for Alteration or Delay) would then become very important as to the wording therein.
Therefore, you could be born outside the U.S., receive both a “Birth Certificate” and a “Certification of Live Birth” and your actual “Birth Certificate” would be as she said ……….. “in order”.
Now, if you are able to refute any of my comments above, I will stand corrected.
DebbieDoRight
January 7th, 2010
1:20 pm
You were had. You were a fool to believe that a Chicago lawyer would ever tell the truth. It’s OK. We all know. You were lied to and you bought it. We all make mistakes. Most of our mistakes will not result in the destruction of our nation’s economy, but we all do make mistakes.
Did he take the exam for Illinois? I thought he took the exam for Massachussetts, not Illinois.
Jess
January 7th, 2010
1:21 pm
And to this day there are democrat leaders who question the legitmacy of Bush’s presidency.
DebbieDoRight
January 7th, 2010
1:21 pm
You were had. You were a fool to believe that a Chicago lawyer would ever tell the truth. It’s OK. We all know. You were lied to and you bought it. We all make mistakes. Most of our mistakes will not result in the destruction of our nation’s economy, but we all do make mistakes.
Did he take the exam for Illinois? I thought he took the exam for Massachussetts, not Illinois. Oh and the last comment, you were speaking of Bush right?
Taxpayer
January 7th, 2010
1:22 pm
Birthers and Deniers and Baggers
The makings of a real party.
DebbieDoRight
January 7th, 2010
1:24 pm
Guess What? When the REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR said it was legitimate, did you think that she was part of the “vast conspiracy” too? Just asking……….