Brit Hume playing the persecuted victim card
Brit Hume, the Fox News commentator, went on national TV this week and publicly criticized another person’s faith as inadequate.
Facing a backlash for those remarks, Hume is now casting himself as the victim of religious intolerance.
Got that? The victim of religious bigotry and intolerance is the man who publicly condemned another’s faith as inadequate.
To review briefly, here’s Hume’s original statement on Fox News Sunday:
“… the Tiger Woods that emerges once the news value dies out of this scandal — the extent to which he can recover — seems to me to depend on his faith. He’s said to be a Buddhist; I don’t think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith. So my message to Tiger would be: ‘Tiger, turn to the Christian faith, and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world.’”
According to Hume and others, he has become the victim of anti-Christian bigotry for those remarks. “It is certainly true in secular America today that the most controversial two words you can ever utter in a public space are ‘Jesus Christ,’” Hume said in a later interview about the uproar.
That’s absurd. It’s not about Christianity. Among other things, it’s about poor manners. Like a lot of Americans, I was raised to respect religious belief, and I think it’s rude and crass to drag another person’s private faith into the public square for judgment and belittlement, as Hume did to Woods.
Reportedly, Hume’s longtime Christian faith deepened after the tragic suicide of his son 11 years ago. I get that and accept that, and I’m glad that Hume found solace at what must have been a very difficult time. If Hume had reached out privately to Woods to share that experience, I’d have no problem with it whatsoever, and I doubt many others would either.
In fact, if Hume had merely said on air that his own Christian faith had helped him through hard times and that Woods might benefit from it too, I’d find it hard to object much. (Such a statement would have seemed odd and out of place from a political commentator on a news show, but that’s another issue.)
However, that’s not what Hume did. He said Woods is a Buddhist and suggested that Buddhism is an inferior religion.
Thanks to an earlier post on this subject, I’m now among those being accused of being anti-Christian and intolerant. Well, let’s try a little experiment, shall we? Let’s imagine that a prominent newscaster had said the following about Hume at a difficult time in his life:
“Brit’s said to be a Christian — I don’t think that faith offers the kind of solace that is offered by the Buddhist faith — so my message to Brit would be, turn to the Buddhist faith and you can make a total recovery.”
Personally, I would find that just as objectionable as what Hume said about Woods. A person’s religion is not a topic for public judgment. But I guarantee that most of those who today rush to defend Hume’s comments in the name of tolerance would be singing quite a different tune. They would not be celebrating the airing of religious issues, they would be complaining about a lack of basic respect for faith.
And in that case, they’d be right.
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GOP is Gone
January 7th, 2010
8:00 pm
make that eye
Hillbilly Deluxe
January 7th, 2010
8:02 pm
I hope Southern Comfort’s team gets a win in the game tonight. If they don’t, I’d hate to be coming into Atlanta Airport from overseas tomorrow.
LA
January 7th, 2010
8:03 pm
“Hume, you are being blasted for being a stupid a$$ bigot. Not because you are a hateful, ignorant, hypocritical Christian.”
Liberal compassion. No wonder America rejects crazy lunatic liberals.
Southern Comfort
January 7th, 2010
8:03 pm
Brit Hume would appease quite a few people if he went on tv tonight and yelled:
“Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer
Give’em Hell Alabama!!!”
Or at lease he’d be ok in my eyes.
ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!
Less than 30 mins until the Grillin’ in Pasedena begins.
See y’all later.
josef nix
January 7th, 2010
8:03 pm
RW–this is what I base my comments on…
“… the Tiger Woods that emerges once the news value dies out of this scandal — the extent to which he can recover — seems to me to depend on his faith. He’s said to be a Buddhist; I don’t think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith. So my message to Tiger would be: ‘Tiger, turn to the Christian faith, and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world.’”
mike
January 7th, 2010
8:05 pm
Thanks for putting so much energy into this very important event. It’s almost as important as the nation-changing “uppity” scandal.
Pettiness, thy name is Bookman.
Kamchak
January 7th, 2010
8:08 pm
I know, but I like to, at least, give them the opportunity. I’ve come to realize they’re not much into opportunities of their own making.
As someone pointed out earlier today–maybe it’s because He’s Just Not That Into You.
Devastating–I know.
Del
January 7th, 2010
8:08 pm
We’ve all been guilty for slips of the tongue. Hume had his but I don’t think excoriating him for it makes any sense unless someone just feels as though they are holier than thou or they have a political agenda that they want to project through the mistake of another human being of a different political persuasion. Just saying.
RW-(the original)
January 7th, 2010
8:09 pm
josef,
I know full well that’s what you’re basing it on but I’ve got to watch the video again for inflection etc because that quote looks stronger in print than what it seemed the point was when he made that off the cuff statement.
Dinner awaits first though
mike
January 7th, 2010
8:09 pm
I agree that Humes’ comment was obnoxious, but it is no more so than Bill Maher’s constant assault on Christians. If Bookman really cared about people being disrespectful of the faith of others he would criticize Maher too and he certainly wouldn’t tolerate the regular anti-Christian bigotry on his blog that he has actually defended.
No Bookman doesn’t about care about people being disrespectful of the faith of others. He only wants to trash people who don’t share his ultra-partisan views. In this way and many others, he is no different than Limbaugh, Hannity and the other conservative hack pundits.
Del
January 7th, 2010
8:10 pm
So Co,
Thanks for reminding me I’m out.
AmVet
January 7th, 2010
8:12 pm
To this fallacious point about the poor, put upon, “persecuted” Christians in America.
I for one, could personally care less if these LAmebrains give every last penny to some TV charlatan. Or if they all voted for that dispicable Pat Robertson. Or if they build a church on every corner.
But a secular America will never again allow them to rule through intolerance and bigotry. Through fear and intimidation.
NOT in our public schools nor in the public square. (Notwithstanding Alabama!)
So now they vilify the weak and glorify the wicked.
As for their Bible? “Merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams.” —Thomas Jefferson
“Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity”. -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782
Off to NCAA football.
Find some redemption, conned…
LA
January 7th, 2010
8:14 pm
BedWet cries too much. Poor BedWet.
Did those awful Christians preach to you? LOL
BedWet is a loon of EPIC proportions.
josef nix
January 7th, 2010
8:17 pm
Del @ 8:08
That’s much of what I was trying to say much less articulately than you.
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
8:17 pm
“but it is no more so than Bill Maher’s constant assault on Christians”
“Tommy does it too” – is not a valid defense.
LA
January 7th, 2010
8:19 pm
Who’s Tommy?
Nothing Is Free
January 7th, 2010
8:20 pm
Jay
I have been watching all the coverage of the boom of the loom bomber and other than the few that are really blaming Obama, I am seeing a lot of people scratching their heads because there’s really no one to blame. He got on the plane in Amsterdam and hadn’t been exposed to American security before he was to deplane.
I want to suggest a topic of people giving suggestions of what we could do to improve the situation.
Both sides here complain that the other side offers no solutions, so here is the chance. We all deal with the busiest airport in America so we are familiar with a lot of the problems with flight from a major hub.
I think it would be a pretty informed group of people that made the suggestions.
Free
josef nix
January 7th, 2010
8:21 pm
Mike–
“No Bookman doesn’t about care about people being disrespectful of the faith of others”
I disagree. I have found Jay to be most respectful of the faith of others…
. “He only wants to trash people who don’t share his ultra-partisan views. In this way and many others, he is no different than Limbaugh, Hannity and the other conservative hack pundits.”
I agree. This is what he is paid, I assume, handsomely, to do. He doesn’t bite the hand that feeds him, neither do you and neither do I.
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
8:23 pm
“Who’s Tommy?”
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073812/
josef nix
January 7th, 2010
8:24 pm
NIF–
On the Boom of the Loom Bomber ( I love that one!) and the blame game. Can we not accept that it was a breach of the security measures in place, look and who, when, and where and then, as you say, take corrective measures.
Ridgerunner
January 7th, 2010
8:26 pm
“Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel to every person. Baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”
“Do not hide your light under a bushel but let it shine forth.”
“If they hated Me, the will hate you. No man is greater than His master.”
Salt & Light
January 7th, 2010
8:27 pm
This was pulled earlier. I suppose due to political correctness at the AJC it will be again:
http://www.anncoulter.org/
Ridgerunner
January 7th, 2010
8:31 pm
For all you libs. who say we are not at war because Congress has to declare it:
Headline (CBS) : “Obama: We Are at War”
FrankLeeDarling
January 7th, 2010
8:38 pm
I love how people are claiming Hume’s statement to Woods is correct.
Some would say all christianity has to offer is mythology.
buddhism has this to say on forgiveness
Forgiveness is an internal process. It can’t be forced, and it doesn’t come easy. It brings with it great feelings of wellness and freedom. But we experience this only when we want to heal and when we are willing to work for it.
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
8:49 pm
“For all you libs. who say we are not at war because Congress has to declare it:”
It’s not our fault if he ignores the provisions of the Constitutions that he’s supposed to be an expert on.
mike
January 7th, 2010
8:54 pm
Doggone –
““Tommy does it too” – is not a valid defense.”
Well if you could read and you could comprehend, you would see that I started my post by saying “I agree that Humes’ comment was obnoxious”. That’s not defending it, rocket scientist.
I was pointing out that Jay’s outrage, like all of his outrage, is selective. Sorry that you missed the point, but I couldn’t make it any simpler.
godless heathen
January 7th, 2010
8:57 pm
Hume should try atheism. He might find inner peace and understanding of the world if he didn’t have to go through the mental gyrations that are required to hang onto mythology.
mike
January 7th, 2010
8:58 pm
josef nix –
“I disagree. I have found Jay to be most respectful of the faith of others…”
I never said that he wasn’t. I said that “doesn’t about care about people being disrespectful of the faith of others”, which he doesn’t. Not only does he tolerate anti-Christian bigotry, he has actually defended it.
“I agree. This is what he is paid, I assume, handsomely, to do. He doesn’t bite the hand that feeds him, neither do you and neither do I.”
Hey, I am sure that prostitutes get paid handsomely too. Doesn’t mean I want to do it.
Regardless, Jay doesn’t see himself as cynically as you and I do. He actually thinks that he is a journalist of some type.
mike
January 7th, 2010
8:59 pm
godless heathen –
“He might find inner peace and understanding of the world if he didn’t have to go through the mental gyrations that are required to hang onto mythology.”
Further example of how liberals are far less tolerant of the faith of others than are conservatives. Thanks for the assist.
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
9:00 pm
“That’s not defending it, rocket scientist”
Then why was it even necessary to mention Bill Mather at all, if it was to introduce some measure of “justification” for Hume? And comparing a comic to a “serious” new commentator is more of a false comparison than anything else. Last time I checked around, Bill Maher wasn’t offering religious advice to Tiger Woods.
Kamchak
January 7th, 2010
9:01 pm
One man’s religion is another man’s belly laugh
Robert A. Heinlein
TW
January 7th, 2010
9:04 pm
mike – by comparing Maher to Hume, I appreciate your admission that FOX is entertainment – not news.
And I think, though I don’t watch him as often as I’d like, Maher trashes any and all religions that kill innocent civilians under the guise of ‘war.’
godless heathen
January 7th, 2010
9:05 pm
mike,
I consider myself a political conservative. The policies of liberals I deplore. I have to tolerate the thumpers because they are generally less dangerous.
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:06 pm
godless heathen –
That’s super. Regardless of your self-image, your hateful intolerance of people of faith identify you as a cultural liberal.
vm
January 7th, 2010
9:08 pm
Free speech!!! Brit is correct…non Christians are very offended when the name of Jesus is mentioned. Throwing God out of our society is going to be the down fall of this nation. I’ve seen the difference in the last 40 yrs. Brit was not being critical, but compassionate. Christians believe in eternity. You should be thinking about that, too.
TW
January 7th, 2010
9:09 pm
The totality of liberal ‘attack’ on Christianity pales in comparison to the devastation that resulted from ‘w’ using The Bible for toilet paper
TW
January 7th, 2010
9:11 pm
“Christians believe in eternity”
Only for those who accept Christ. Christianity is the only religion where ‘works’ take a backseat.
How convenient
godless heathen
January 7th, 2010
9:13 pm
I don’t know what I said to indicate I was intolerant. I totally respect people’s choice to practice whatever religion they choose without interference from others. I also respect some people’s choice to be atheist, agnostic, even anti-religion. Do you?
I made a suggestion to Mr. Hume very similar to the one he made to Mr. Woods. But I was hatefully intolerant?
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:14 pm
TW –
“mike – by comparing Maher to Hume, I appreciate your admission that FOX is entertainment – not news.”
Well Hume is a political commentator and Maher is a political commentator. The FOX opinion shows are political entertainment and so is Maher. Regardless, what is your point?
“And I think, though I don’t watch him as often as I’d like, Maher trashes any and all religions that kill innocent civilians under the guise of ‘war.’”
Actually, his favorite target is evangelical Christians who are not killing innocent civilians. Also, his contempt is for the very concept of faith, as his documentary of hate demonstrated. Of course, his film did not mock Islam because Maher only attacks those who won’t target him.
Maher is a bigot pure and simple. If Bookman’s concerns about Maher were anything but cynical partisan hackery, he would also demonstrate the same outrage of the hate shown by liberals like Maher towards Christianity. Far from bemoaning this bigotry, Bookman has rationalized it as being deserved.
Again, I am not defending Hume. I am only pointing out that Jay’s outrage is really just petty partisanship.
Kamchak
January 7th, 2010
9:16 pm
Christianity is the only religion where ‘works’ take a backseat.
Not entirely correct.
Protestant Evangelicalism—yes
Catholicism——-no
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:16 pm
godless heathen –
“I don’t know what I said to indicate I was intolerant”
OK, let me clue you into something that any civil person should realize. Saying that someone’s faith is “mental gyrations that are required to hang onto mythology” is intolerant of their views.
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:18 pm
Doggone –
“Then why was it even necessary to mention Bill Mather at all, if it was to introduce some measure of “justification” for Hume? And comparing a comic to a “serious” new commentator is more of a false comparison than anything else. Last time I checked around, Bill Maher wasn’t offering religious advice to Tiger Woods.”
I forgot how difficult it is for you to understand anything. I don’t have the energy, so you win. My comment that started with “I agree that Humes’ comment was obnoxious” was a defense of that comment. Whatever. You win.
TGT
January 7th, 2010
9:19 pm
So Hume is condemning Buddhism because he said, “I don’t think that faith offers the kind of forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith?” That sentence alone is far from “condemning,” but is especially far from it when you watch and listen to Hume utter it.
Also, there is nothing “absurd” about Hume’s statement, “It is certainly true in secular America today that the most controversial two words you can ever utter in a public space are ‘Jesus Christ.’” It is absolutely true and Christ Himself pretty much said the same thing: “Remember the words I spoke to you: ‘No servant is greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.” and,
“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.” and, “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.”
Also, Christ NEVER claimed that a person’s faith was a private matter. That is frequently uttered nonsense by non-Christians, and even some Christians. Jesus said: “You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.”
Also, AmVet: It’s “I could not care less.”
godless heathen
January 7th, 2010
9:20 pm
That’s not intolerant, Mike. Intolerant is saying I oppose allowing you to do this or that. My opinion of someone’s state of mind is not intolerant. Are you sure you are comfortable with your religion?
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:21 pm
TW –
“The totality of liberal ‘attack’ on Christianity pales in comparison to the devastation that resulted from ‘w’ using The Bible for toilet paper ”
I love seeing liberals justify their bigotry. And when a “tolerant” and “intellectual” liberal wants to justify that hate, how better than to just say Bush. LOL How pathetic.
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
9:21 pm
“is intolerant of their views”
sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me. You seem to be pretty intolerant of GH’s viewpoints and statements too.
TW
January 7th, 2010
9:22 pm
mike,
“The FOX opinion shows are political entertainment and so is Maher. Regardless, what is your point?”
OK, we agree – no difference between FOX News and Bill Maher’s Real Time.
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:24 pm
godless heathen –
“That’s not intolerant, Mike. Intolerant is saying I oppose allowing you to do this or that”
Really, so calling using a racial slur is not intolerant? Whatever.
.”My opinion of someone’s state of mind is not intolerant.”
In many cases not. In your case (mocking the faith of large groups of people with the sole intention of insulting them) it is.
“Are you sure you are comfortable with your religion?”
My religion has nothing to do with it. I am not particularly religious. Don’t try to turn your own intolerance into my problem. It’s your problem, whether you want to accept it or not.
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
9:24 pm
“That’s not intolerant”
Now, now GH…don’t you get it? We’re supposed to be tolerant of Mike’s intolerance. Otherwise, we’re just bigotted against him, don’t you know?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
January 7th, 2010
9:24 pm
UpChuck- You wouldn’t know Christianity if you fell over it, just sayin….
godless heathen
January 7th, 2010
9:26 pm
IMHO, people that are uncomfortable with their own beliefs and have substantial doubts, seem to most vehemently react to any point of view that might exploit a crack in their armor. Is that you, mike?
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:26 pm
TW –
“OK, we agree – no difference between FOX News and Bill Maher’s Real Time.”
That’s not what I said at all, but if you want to believe that go ahead.
I said that Fox’s opinion shows are entertainment and so is Maher. (So is Olbermann, Maddow, et al) Fox’s new programming is news. Regardless, what is your point?
AmVet
January 7th, 2010
9:27 pm
“‘w’ using The Bible for toilet paper”
True dat, TW.
But MUCH worse he took a TRULY sacred document, the US Constitution, and did the same.
Cue up LameO going spazalistic in five, four, three, two…
(But, I could not care less!)
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:28 pm
godless heathen –
“IMHO, people that are uncomfortable with their own beliefs and have substantial doubts, seem to most vehemently react to any point of view that might exploit a crack in their armor. Is that you, mike?”
Well as I said, I am not particularly religious so your pathetic attempt to justify your intolerance makes no sense. I am pretty much an agnostic.
If you makes it feel better, I also think racists are distasteful too and I am white.
You need to embrace your intolerant nature.
godless heathen
January 7th, 2010
9:28 pm
I used a racial slur? Check the tape.
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:29 pm
AmVet –
Are you going to tell us again about how the 2008 elections show the the GOP is done? LOL
Ever wonder what else you are wrong about? LOL
Finn McCool
January 7th, 2010
9:29 pm
I hope this will be the end of Geithner’s work in the administration:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/roy-sekoff-on-aig-fed-ema_b_415528.html
Kamchak
January 7th, 2010
9:30 pm
Andy
Maybe so, maybe no–but I did spend the first 16 of my formative years immersed in it. Just sayin’.
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:32 pm
godless heathen –
“I used a racial slur? Check the tape.”
Not surprised that a bigot has such poor reading comprehension.
You stated that ” Intolerant is saying I oppose allowing you to do this or that”
I was using a simple demonstration of an intolerant act that has nothing to do with “allowing” anybody to do anything, thereby demonstrating that your claim was false. I tried to make it really dumbed down so you could understand. Apparently, I did not go far enough.
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:33 pm
Doggone –
“We’re supposed to be tolerant of Mike’s intolerance.”
And to who am I intolerant? Be specific. Or is this just another case of your empty rhetoric?
@@
January 7th, 2010
9:33 pm
Kamchak:
As someone pointed out earlier today–maybe it’s because He’s Just Not That Into You.
Devastating–I know.
I make a comment about liberals and you refer to THEM as HE?
Being into me isn’t a requirement…as a matter of fact, I’d welcome you putting more effort into not being so…
know what I’m sayin’?
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January 7th, 2010
9:33 pm
UpChuck- You spent your first sixteen years also being a child. I see that you learned well.
AmVet
January 7th, 2010
9:34 pm
Goofy moral equivalency conned like mike.
Of course, I’m intolerant!
I do not tolerate or endure evil. I do not tolerate or endure stupidity. I do not tolerate or endure laziness.
This explains why I am so adamantly anti-Republican…
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:37 pm
Doggone -
“You seem to be pretty intolerant of GH’s viewpoints and statements too.”
LOL. Man you are a simple one aren’t you?
Look, GH is mocking masses of people for their faith. I am criticizing him as individfual for his comments. Is it so hard to understand the difference. Let me give you another example that is easier for your small brain to understand.
If I say “black people are murderers”, that is a racist remark. If I say “OJ Simpson” is a murderer, I am criticizing an individual for their actions. Do you understand the difference? I doubt it.
godless heathen
January 7th, 2010
9:37 pm
mike, I still don’t see where I expressed intolerance. I am only against granting privilege to any group of people based on their superstitions, even if they are a large group of people.
I got nothing against any religion except – our government gives tax exempt status to “legitimate” religions. Since we, as mere mortals, don’t really know which ones are legitimate, tax them all. Put billions and billions of dollars worth of property and income into the tax base.
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:39 pm
AmVet –
Tell us some more about how conservatives are done. LOL
Seen this one, Kreskin?
“Conservatives Finish 2009 as No. 1 Ideological Group
Uptick owing largely to more independents calling themselves conservative
by Lydia Saad
PRINCETON, NJ — The increased conservatism that Gallup first identified among Americans last June persisted throughout the year, so that the final year-end political ideology figures confirm Gallup’s initial reporting: conservatives (40%) outnumbered both moderates (36%) and liberals (21%) across the nation in 2009.”
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124958/Conservatives-Finish-2009-No-1-Ideological-Group.aspx
LOL
iRun
January 7th, 2010
9:39 pm
mike -
“Actually, his favorite target is evangelical Christians who are not killing innocent civilians.”
You mean like the ones who went to Uganda? Maybe they’re not pulling the trigger but it sure seems like they put out the hit.
Sunshine -
About the schools teaching all that stuff you said? Like Jay I have a son in APS, 3rd grade. So far he get’s no instruction on any religion and he’s not taught there’s no religion, on any sexuality, etc, like you mentioned.
Though he was mocked by some other kids when they found out he doesn’t believe in God. They told him he was going to hell. I asked him if that upset him. He said he didn’t like that he was being picked on but he wasn’t worried about Hell because it doesn’t exist.
See, he didn’t learn that at school. He learned that from me and his Dad.
Oh, yeah, and the Catholics believe you can get into Heaven even if you don’t believe. For them it’s all about works. They came up with that to excuse tribal cultures who’d never heard of God or Jesus. And maybe to make peace with the Jews. Gotta love Vatican II.
Kamchak
January 7th, 2010
9:39 pm
Andy
Yep.
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:40 pm
godless heathen -
“mike, I still don’t see where I expressed intolerance.”
Not surprised. Does anyone really think that they are a bigot?
Hillbilly Deluxe
January 7th, 2010
9:40 pm
Finn @ 9:29
Agreed. He, like Hank Paulson, is part of the problem not part of the solution.
Stinker
January 7th, 2010
9:41 pm
I’m just glad that my poop does not attract flies. It’s special poop and I know it. Flyless poop. Gardeners love it. It contains Viagra residue and it makes corn stalks rise higher than ever before. It’s true because I said so. It’s not just opinion because I also said that to. And anyone that says otherwise is just all wrong because I said so and you just watch. Someone will try to say otherwise and since I have predicted that they will, I am just so right and righteous and they’re just so wrong because I said so. And I have not been drinking or smoking or anything else like everyone else has and it is obvious that they have. Just read what they wrote and you will know it because I that too and it is so.
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:42 pm
iRun –
“You mean like the ones who went to Uganda? Maybe they’re not pulling the trigger but it sure seems like they put out the hit.”
What does this have to do with anything? Is this some attempt to justify bigotry? I am sure that racists look at the actions of individuals to smear whole group too. You are in good company.
AmVet
January 7th, 2010
9:44 pm
Pavlovian mike, tell us why they’ve lost 94% of the elections in the past two national elections. Including an unprecedented 36 – 0 annihilation. ZERO??? From sea to shining sea.
And then for extra credit tell us what’s their super secret plan to crawl up off of the mat…
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
January 7th, 2010
9:44 pm
UpChuck- Am I supposed to be impressed that you can recite the Words you know nothing about?
godless heathen
January 7th, 2010
9:44 pm
mike, You are usually well reasoned in your discussions, but when a political conservative cast dispersions on the religion embraced by conservatives, you seemed to really get thrown off of your usual game. Even resorting to suggesting I am of inferior intelligence to you. That is not your style. Questioning the religion of Republicans gets to you that much?
RW-(the original)
January 7th, 2010
9:44 pm
josef,
Went back and had a listen and still don’t see the problem as he kind of stumbles over that last part and it’s not altogether clear what he knows versus has been told about Buddhism. It just sounds like a clumsy statement.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one since a wise man told me here once that a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
9:45 pm
“And to who am I intolerant? Be specific”
“I agree that Humes’ comment was obnoxious” – intolerant of Britt Hume
“but it is no more so than Bill Maher’s constant assault on Christians” – intolerant of Bill Maher
“He only wants to trash people who don’t share his ultra-partisan views” – intolerant of Jay
“In this way and many others, he is no different than Limbaugh, Hannity and the other conservative hack pundits” – intolerant of Limbaugh, Hannity, etc.
“Further example of how liberals are far less tolerant of the faith of others than are conservatives” – intolerant of liberals
“Regardless of your self-image, your hateful intolerance of people of faith identify you as a cultural liberal” – intolerant of Godless Heathen
Hey, this is fun!
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
9:47 pm
” I still don’t see where I expressed intolerance”
Don’t worry about it, GH. Intolerance is Mike’s latest dead horse to beat. He’s going to inject it anyway he can into the conversation.
Wanna take a bet on how long it takes him to go back to calling me his “groupie”?
godless heathen
January 7th, 2010
9:48 pm
Websters: :
Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
And mike calls me a bigot. LOL!
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:48 pm
DoggoneGA –
LOL. You clearly don’t understand the difference between criticizing an indicual for their own actions and criticizing millions of people that you have never met because they don’t share your spiritual views.
I have ceased to surprised by your limited mental abilities. LOL
Kamchak
January 7th, 2010
9:49 pm
Andy
No. I am under no delusion about “impressing” you.
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
9:49 pm
“That is not your style”
snort! You’ve GOT to be kidding. He’s got NO OTHER “style”
iRun
January 7th, 2010
9:49 pm
mike -
“What does this have to do with anything? Is this some attempt to justify bigotry? I am sure that racists look at the actions of individuals to smear whole group too. You are in good company.”
It was evangelicals who went to Uganda to “advise” Ugandan policy regarding homosexuality. The result is that Uganda is about to make it worthy of the death penalty to be gay or aid and abet gay.
I work with Ugandan MoH…I am familiar with the goings on their. This is night to be taken lightly.
You claimed something along the lines of evangelicals not killing (or being responsible for killing) anyone. While you were dissing Bill Maher.
I wasn’t talking about a group, just showing evidence that your original claim was false. I didn’t say anything about the rest of your claim about Maher. I can’t because I don’t have first hand knowledge of his show. I was soley and specifically picking out what you said about evangelicals and killing, or lack thereof.
TW
January 7th, 2010
9:50 pm
And at 9:45, DoggoneGA claimed ownership of mike. Now, call her husband to come get her…lol…
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:50 pm
godless heathen –
Yes, you are a bigot, because you are “obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices especially towards people of faith.”
Thanks for bringing it into focus for us. And thanks for letting us know what the true nature of the universe is, as you seem to know that for sure. LOL
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
9:50 pm
“I have ceased to surprised by your limited mental abilities”
GH – I rest my case in re: Mike’s “style”
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:51 pm
TW –
Ant at 9:50 you demonstrated that like Doggone, you have the reading comprehension of a third grader. LOL
iRun
January 7th, 2010
9:52 pm
Oopps…there not their….
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
9:52 pm
“Now, call her husband to come get her”
You’ll have to call for a long, long, long time. I’ll have to FIND a husband so there’ll BE one to answer!
godless heathen
January 7th, 2010
9:52 pm
DoggoneGA, You and I aren’t going to be on the same side very often, but you are correct – this is fun.
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
9:53 pm
“this is fun”
Now GH – you’re going to spoil Mike’s day if you go all tolerant like that!
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:54 pm
DoggoneGA –
“GH – I rest my case in re: Mike’s “style””
LOL. Again, you don’t have any clue what bigotry is because you are unintelligent, poorly educated or both.
You and GH attack people for being Christian or Republicans. I criticize you for your idiotic statements. Sorry that the concept is too difficult to understand, but I understand what a bad hand you were dealt and you have my sympathy.
Dusty
January 7th, 2010
9:55 pm
Is this not the second time Jay Bookman has brought this to our attention? Why?
Is Bookman to be the new Miss Manners of protocol (as josef suggests)?
Blogs are the worst place to judge free speech but fortunately, we still have it. So does Brit Hume, AmVet, Rev. Warren, Doggone, and many others, some of whom I had rather they kept silent.
In the long run, this is a munufactured hill of beans. Keep your personal faith strong. Do what is right. I am a Christian. We are saved by grace and we wish that forgiveness for all. But you must find it yourself.
By the way, we are having a bit of heavenly fall here in Atlanta. Nothing heavy yet. Not even worth a snowman.
ALSO, I thought President Obama looked presidential tonight. He took blame for the airplane just-missed-disaster. THAT acceptance of responsibility makes him look more presidential and stronger, something we need.
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
9:55 pm
“Is this not the second time Jay Bookman has brought this to our attention? Why”
Because it’s HIS blog.
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:55 pm
Any other mindless bigots out there need to have things explained to them?
Kamchak
January 7th, 2010
9:56 pm
DoggoneGA, godless heathen
It might help to know that mike is an ex-AJC employee that haunts these blogs with an ax to grind.
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:56 pm
DoggoneGA –
“Because it’s HIS blog.”
LOL. Like you hypocrites never blast Limbaugh for what he says on HIS show. LOL
mike
January 7th, 2010
9:58 pm
“It might help to know that mike is an ex-AJC employee that haunts these blogs with an ax to grind.”
True enough, but I spend a fraction of the time here that you do. What is your reason for spending your every waking hour here? Loneliness?
DoggoneGA
January 7th, 2010
9:58 pm
Kamchak – it wouldn’t surprise me a bit.
Kamchak
January 7th, 2010
10:00 pm
What is your reason for spending your every waking hour here? Loneliness?
I hate to burst your bubble sport, but I’m not that way.