Two Dem senators step into retirement: A look ahead

Two Democratic senators — Byron Dorgan of North Dakota and Chris Dodd of Connecticut — have announced they will not be seeking re-election. Republicans were already favored to take Dorgan’s seat; North Dakota is not exactly friendly turf for Democrats, given that John McCain carried the state by 53-44.5 percent. Dorgan’s decision to walk away makes a GOP pickup even more likely.

Dodd’s case is different. He too faced a tough bid for what would have been his sixth term, but for reasons limited to Dodd himself. Over the years he had grown too close to the financial interests that he was supposed to oversee from his position on the Senate Banking Committee, and it caught up with him. Efforts in recent months to take a harder line haven’t changed public impressions.

However, Connecticut remains favorable territory for Democrats — Obama won 60.5 percent of the vote there, compared to 38.2 percent for McCain. Dodd’s departure makes it more likely the seat will stay Democratic.

Overall, it’s almost impossible to see how Democrats will retain their 60-vote margin through the November election or lose control of the Senate altogether. A more likely outcome would be to hold 55-56 seats.

In the House, the current situation is becoming more dire for Democrats, as the chart below — tracking voters’ party preference in a generic House race — illustrates:

The Democrats are still highly unlikely to lose control of the House, but the history of mid-term elections and these numbers suggest that they’re likely to lose some 25 to 30 seats from their 79-seat advantage. Unlike the Senate numbers, though, there’s still a lot of play in the future of the House. A lot depends on what the economy does between now and the fall.

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Normal

January 6th, 2010
8:01 am

Yeah, I love the way the right thinks that when a Democrat retires, his seat will be filled by a Republican. Not necessarily so

stands for decibels

January 6th, 2010
8:03 am

Virtually everything depends on what the economy does between now and the fall.

Fixed Jay’s typo.

Peadawg

January 6th, 2010
8:09 am

“A lot depends on what the economy does between now and the fall.”

I’ll add, “and how many pork packages they pass this year.” I hope that old saying isn’t true “same shyt, different year”

Outhouse Go-Kart

January 6th, 2010
8:12 am

Verdict is in and the dummycrats will be OUT!

Yeah Baby.

But dont take my word for it…just watch it happen.

the kenyan will fall come 2012!!

Mrs. Godzilla

January 6th, 2010
8:16 am

Some seat shuffling at the mid terms is expected.

Let us not forget how unpopular Republicans are…..

http://www.dailykos.com/weeklytrends

(I know it’s the Great Orange Satan and all but his polls have been spot on)

And

I don’t think it will be all about the economy, I think the continued
unreasonable right wing attacks on a personally popular President will
back fire – again.

Balance Our Budget

January 6th, 2010
8:17 am

Payback is coming.Payback for a bad economy.Payback for a monster deficit.Payback for a trillion plus healthcare bill .Payback for keeping Gitmo open and trying terrorists in American courts.Payback for continuing two wars.

Normal

January 6th, 2010
8:20 am

Outhouse, I’m lookin’ but I ain’t seein’ yet.

The thing is, after all this time the GOP has been running this state, it’s worse off than it was. Same for the country. The problem then becomes if you can’t show progress, all you have are words…people ain’t buying words anymore. There is going to be more incumbants ousted on both sides, but the GOP will be hit harder because people will remember promises broken. This will be true for Obama in 2012 if he doesn’t shine before then, but for 2010, it’s too soon for the public forgetting…and that’s not good for them.

Normal

January 6th, 2010
8:21 am

Good Morning Mrs. G.! I hope you are keeping warm and snuggy…

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:22 am

Jay, you have absolutely no idea just how pissed off people are at the democrat party. It’s going to be a very bumpy ride for them.

In other news, Princess Nancy is pissed at Obama. Sitting back, eating popcorn and watching the Democrat Party implode.

Nancy Pelosi takes swipe at President Obama’s campaign promises

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, piqued with White House pressure to accept the Senate health reform bill, threw a rare rhetorical elbow at President Barack Obama Tuesday, questioning his commitment to his 2008 campaign promises.

A leadership aide said it was no accident.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31180.html#ixzz0bq3LJQT8

v racer

January 6th, 2010
8:22 am

I hear the toilet flushing and see the demolibs circling the bowl.

Peadawg

January 6th, 2010
8:23 am

“popular President”

Godzilla, how has the President’s approval rating done since he got was elected, hhhmmmmm?

jt

January 6th, 2010
8:23 am

If you look close, and maybe climb a tall tree, you can indeed glimpse the shining city on the hill.

There is still a long slog through the centralized-corrupt-authority jungle though.

The corrupto-crats usually use five-year plans to hide their graft.

Maybe with luck, and the Ron Paul spirit, we can wittle it down to just 3 more years.

I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o

January 6th, 2010
8:23 am

In other news, the failed Detroit BVD bomber had this to say about the way his burns were treated after his capture: “Based on what happened here to me, I don’t think there’s one thing wrong with the American health care system. It is working just fine, just dandy.”
Jobs have a vote?

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:23 am

Normal, you are one delusional gal! If you seriously think that GA will vote democrats in office you are dreaming. Just as Illinois is total Democrat, GA is total GOP.

Doggone/GA

January 6th, 2010
8:26 am

“the democrat party”

How can you be pissed off at something that doesn’t exist?

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:27 am

Peadawg, she is delusional.

Obama’s approval rating is below 50%. He just set an all-time record with being a first year president with the lowest approval rating.

Obama’s 47 Percent Approval Lowest of Any President at This Point

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/08/obamas-percent-approval-lowest-president-point/

Taxpayer

January 6th, 2010
8:28 am

Normal at 8:20,

In a state populated with logical voters, I would agree. But! Here in Georgia, I still see folks that are sitting in the pot watching their elected Republicans stoke the fire and chop the vegetables and even tell the cooked that they’re invited for dinner and the meat just grins and says “thank you kind sir [or mam].”

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:28 am

“How can you be pissed off at something that doesn’t exist?”

Yep, come November that WILL be true.

Jay and other libs like James Carville and Chris Mattews should retract those over-hyped stories about how the GOP was doomed for years. Hell, Carville said that it would be 40 years until the GOP gained back control.

Jenifer

January 6th, 2010
8:29 am

republicants should run Palin in CT and Newt in ND. Shoo-ins.

Jay

January 6th, 2010
8:30 am

LA, I think it’s fine for Pelosi to do that. Maybe if congressional Republicans had tried to keep Bush in line — and Bush had tried to do the same with congressional Republicans — the GOP and this country wouldn’t be in such a mess.

The separation-of-power theory can’t work if there is no separation of power.

Peadawg

January 6th, 2010
8:30 am

LA: “Peadawg, she is delusional.”

I want whatever she’s having then. She must be feelin’ gooooood

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:30 am

Taxpayer, what is you idea of an ideal state with logical voters?

Michigan has had democrats controlling it for years. They have bankrupt the state.

Illinois is a democrat state. High taxes, high unemployment, high crime rates, government shutting down on a weekly basis.

Jenifer

January 6th, 2010
8:31 am

“In a state populated with logical voters, I would agree. But! Here in Georgia, I still see folks that are sitting in the pot watching their elected Republicans stoke the fire and chop the vegetables and even tell the cooked that they’re invited for dinner and the meat just grins and says “thank you kind sir [or mam].””

Live poor, vote rich.

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:32 am

Jay, you are absolutely correct on Pelosi! If the GOP had someone like her toughness they’d be in better shape. And yes, the GOP became big spending democrats. It’s why I didn’t vote for Mac but I certainly didn’t vote for more big spending.

Bottom line: GOP better get back to conservatism because the Democrats are spending at a greater rate.

Peadawg

January 6th, 2010
8:32 am

“The separation-of-power theory can’t work if there is no separation of power.”

The checks-and-balances theory doesn’t work either when one party controls everything. It didn’t work when Bush was in office until 2006 and it isn’t working now w/ Obama in office.

stands for decibels

January 6th, 2010
8:34 am

Godzilla, how has the President’s approval rating done since he got was elected, hhhmmmmm?

He’s lost a few percentage points off the popular vote margin he had in November. Not terribly surprising.

(Kinda like your precious polling on the HCR bill–you bring the disaffected left wing back and it’s a popular measure.)

Obama will have it back and more when he runs again.

Anyhow, as I’m fond of pointing out, Gallup had Reagan’s approval numbers bottoming out in the high 30s around his first mid-term election period. He somehow did ok in ‘84, though.

Mrs. Godzilla

January 6th, 2010
8:35 am

Good Morning to you two…Peadawg and LA.

If I’m delusional….you guys are brilliant.

Yes, that’s the ticket. It could happen.

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:35 am

Newt Gingrich shot himself in the foot by supporting Scozavava back in November. His credibility is out the door.

Future leaders like Rubio, Mitch Daniels, Eric Cantor and Bobby Jindal are the future.

Rubio is going to end up beating Crist in Florida. Guy has an amazing story of escaping communism and coming to America.

I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

January 6th, 2010
8:39 am

Comfort yourselves, dummycrats, comfort yourselves.

And don’t change a thing you are doing, please.

We love obozo!

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:39 am

stands for decibels, yeah but Obama is no Reagan. Quite the opposite.

Try Jimmy Carter.

Mrs. Godzilla

January 6th, 2010
8:40 am

dummycrats? obozo?

yep, that wins elections……tee hee hee

Joey

January 6th, 2010
8:41 am

Jay;
I responded to you in the previous post.

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:43 am

Reagan loved freedom.

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.

Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

And, I believe Obama must have been smoking his crack pipe when Reagan said this.

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

Taxpayer

January 6th, 2010
8:44 am

LA,

Even without looking at any particular state’s balance sheet, I suspect that greater than 50% of them are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy but I have not heard of any declaring such as of yet. When did Michigan do so? Any others? California perhaps?

david wayne osedach

January 6th, 2010
8:44 am

Thank god “Dodd’ is going! He is one of the biggest crooks in the history of the Senate. Let him retire in style to his palatial Irish castle.

Mrs. Godzilla

January 6th, 2010
8:44 am

keep this up…..

http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader

strategery…..tea party style…..whins elections…..tee hee hee

Ridgerunner

January 6th, 2010
8:44 am

The backlash is coming ……………..

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:45 am

Climate Change: Democratic Exodus Roils 2010 Landscape

Maybe even Michael Steele will have to change his mind before this is through.

Who said Washington wasn’t ready to talk about a changing climate? There’s something in the January air, and it smells like the December air, and maybe even the winds of change we’ve heard so much about.

In the space of a disastrous 24 hours for Democrats, two senators who combine for more than 60 years of service on Capitol Hill called it quits. Two top Democratic gubernatorial candidates in battleground states — one an incumbent, the other a shoo-in for the nomination — found better things to do with their time, too.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/01/climate-change-democratic-exodus-roils-2010-landscape.html

Joey

January 6th, 2010
8:46 am

I get to agree with Jay on something, his 8:30 post.
If the either thatRepublican Senate or House or Bush had effectively resisted the spending spree we would not be in this mess. That is we would not have Democrat in total control of the House, the Senate and the Presidency.

Normal

January 6th, 2010
8:46 am

yeah but Obama is no Reagan. Quite the opposite.

…and thank the Great Spirit for that!

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:47 am

Taxpayer, sure, here you go.

10 States Ready to Go Bankrupt – Bad Implications for USA

Which 10 States – California, Arizona, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Rhode Island and Wisconsin. These 10 states account for over one third of the USA population and this is significant. Think of it is more then 33% of the USA going bankrupt.

Other States on the Endangered Species List – Colorado, Georgia, Kentucky, New York and Hawaii. These states are in bad shape and can easily get pushed over into bankruptcy.

http://www.newsnet14.com/2009/11/30/10-states-ready-to-go-bankrupt-%E2%80%93-bad-implications-for-usa/

Peadawg

January 6th, 2010
8:47 am

Mrs. Godzilla @ 8:35 am

Still not able to answer questions? Letting SFD answer your questions for you? I can see you haven’t changed…typical Mrs. Godzy

Taxpayer

January 6th, 2010
8:48 am

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

I don’t think you are going to sell that snakeoil to the Paris Hiltons (or that J&J heiress that died) of the world. They’re blue bloods by birth and it doth course through their veins. Well, economic “freedom”, that is.

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:48 am

My home state of North Dakota is one of only two states that are doing just fine.

Mrs. Godzilla

January 6th, 2010
8:48 am

speaking of winning elections….

MONDAY
Michael Steele: GOP won’t win House
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31163.html

TUESDAY
Steele says it’s too early to predict 2010 outcome
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/01/05/steele-says-its-too-early-to-predict-2010-outcome/

WEDNESDAY
???????

HM

January 6th, 2010
8:49 am

As a side note, it appears the beloved Mr. Reid and Mr. Nelson will be “retired” from the Senate by the voters of their states. Why should the lame-ducks be deciding be involved in anything, much less changing the entire health care system?

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:49 am

Taxpayer, Paris Hilton doesn’t know what a voting booth is. I think the last time she went she mistook it for a bathroom and urinated all over the ballot box.

Mrs. Godzilla

January 6th, 2010
8:49 am

Peadawg

Did you ask a question? I’m sorry I must have missed it.

Please ask away.

BMDPD

January 6th, 2010
8:49 am

It doesn’t matter. The GOP only needs one seat. They will get it.

Taxpayer

January 6th, 2010
8:50 am

LA,

So which states are bankrupt. You claimed Michigan was yet I don’t see the proof. Did I miss something in your post. But thanks for confirming what I posted.

stands for decibels

January 6th, 2010
8:51 am

yeah but Obama is no Reagan. Quite the opposite.

Yes, LA. Obama’s approval rating at this point in his term is a whole two (2) points lower than it was for Reagan!

Obviously the sky is falling, and FoxNews isn’t shrilly hyping yet another goofy metric-o’-the-month.

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:51 am

What I find amazing is the fact that it took people 6 years to get rid of the GOP.

It’s only taken less than 1 year for people to be angry at the democrats to get them out.

Peadawg

January 6th, 2010
8:52 am

Peadawg @ 8:23…read away Godzy, and please answer logically if that is possible for you.

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:53 am

Taxpayer, hooked on phonics for you…..maybe?

The state is teetering on bankruptcy. People are leaving the state over it.

stands for decibels

January 6th, 2010
8:53 am

It doesn’t matter. The GOP only needs one seat…

at which point the Dems can decide to finally nuke the filibuster rule and return the nation’s House of Lords to some semblance of responsible, representative democracy.

Or not. Maybe it’d be enough to simply threaten to do so; hey, it worked for the Pubbies back in the day.

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:55 am

stands for decibels, ah yes, crack on Fox News. Geez, you libs have such blind hatred for one news channel. It’s amazing that you guys can’t simply get over the fact that Fox draws larger crowds than the other networks combined.

Anyhoo, Reagan didn’t piss off America, blame America, blame Americans, blame his white grandmother and blame everyone else for his problems.

He gave people their country back and helped bring the economy back to life after Jimmy Carter put it in a coma.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 6th, 2010
8:56 am

Well, always good to see librul Democrats leaving.

I guess my next paycheck will leave me broke. They said this Obama and his buddies would raise taxes, so I guess I won’t take much home this year.

Anyhow, I’m just like alot of other Conservatives. I might get the shaft from Conservative policies, but at least I can hit out at the people I don’t like. Like Those People. It just ain’t right to give them health care and all that stuff.

Us Southreners know the way to vote. I don’t mind being in the ditch if I can hold somebody I don’t like down in it with me.

Have a good day everybody.

Paul

January 6th, 2010
8:57 am

Jay

Thanks for the info on why Sen Dorgan’s retiring. The reports I read referred to it as ‘unknown reasons after consulting with his family.’ Didn’t see any references by news sources on his dire reelection outlook.

Sen Dodd – and Democrats – made a good tactical move. As you said, his stepping down makes it more likely Democrats will retain his seat. IF he had stayed, in all likelihood he’d have lost and a Republican challenger would have won. The repercussions of that (Republican wins Senate seat in Connecticut) would have been a long-playing theme in the difficulties of Democrats. As it is, all the Democratic nominee has to say is “Hey, vote for me. I’m a Democrat and I’m not Chris Dodd.”

Will Sen Harry Reid follow suit? I believe his numbers are lower still and Nevadans would pick even a jackalope over him.

This line: “I think it’s fine for Pelosi to do that. Maybe if congressional Republicans had tried to keep Bush in line — and Bush had tried to do the same with congressional Republicans — the GOP and this country wouldn’t be in such a mess.

The separation-of-power theory can’t work if there is no separation of power.”

I agree with the premise – I’m big on separation of powers and have long held what many saw as a King George Bush dictatorial grab for power was nothing more than an attempt to reassert the prerogatives of the Executive (something Pres Obama has continued) – but to follow it with ‘ if congressional Republicans had tried to keep Bush in line — and Bush had tried to do the same with congressional Republicans — the GOP and this country wouldn’t be in such a mess” is intriguing.

In what areas does Pres Obama need to keep congressional Democrats in line? In what areas do congressional Democrats need to keep Pres Obama in line? Are there examples of them doing that (aside from the example that congressional Republicans’ proposal for the stim package came closer to Pres Obama’s mix of tax cuts and spending than did Democratic proposals)?

LA

January 6th, 2010
8:58 am

John F. Kerry: Lurch in senators clothing.

Iranian Lawmakers Reject Kerry Request to Visit

Iranian lawmakers have rejected Sen. John Kerry’s request to visit their country, saying the United States needs to change its policies toward Iran before such talks can be effective, according to Iran’s semi-official Fars News Agency.

Mrs. Godzilla

January 6th, 2010
8:58 am

Peadawg

Found it. Assumed it was rhetorical.

But to answer, his numbers have dropped.

Taxpayer

January 6th, 2010
8:58 am

Taxpayer, hooked on phonics for you…..maybe?

The state is teetering on bankruptcy. People are leaving the state over it.

What does hooked on phonics have to do with your inability to prove your claim that Michigan is bankrupt. But thanks yet again for confirming my statements.

Peadawg

January 6th, 2010
9:00 am

So, Mrs. Godzilla, how can he be a “popular President” if his numbers have dropped? It seems you just contradicted yourself there. Good job.

I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o

January 6th, 2010
9:01 am

You cant write about how our separation of powers failed without pointing to the 2000 election and the supreme court’s what-do-you-call-what-they-did? (A coup that ended in a W led junta?)

That’s a catastrophic failure of our constitutionally-directed separation of powers. Total, complete annihilation of our system of government. Scalia!

LA

January 6th, 2010
9:02 am

Taxpayer, just messing with you.

Doggone/GA

January 6th, 2010
9:03 am

“reassert the prerogatives of the Executive ”

“reassert” what perogatives? The “Unitary Executive” was never a premise of this Republic. It was a power-grab that runs counter to the separation of powers embodied in the Constitution. And it was WHY I was, and still am, so angry that Congress passed that resolution that gave Bush the power to start the war in Iraq.

LA

January 6th, 2010
9:03 am

I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o, if Owl Gore really won then why did he back down when asked about counting ALL of the FL votes?

1: He did not want military votes counted.

2: He only wanted votes counted in democrat districts.

3: He lost.

Bud Wiser

January 6th, 2010
9:05 am

Beating the anti-Bush drums louder again Jay?

You really think that NOW your feeble tactic of Bush blame will overshadow the darkness in the WH, with a shattering economy, joblessness increases, and perhaps hyper inflation just ahead?

The darkness I refer to is the complete and utter lack of transparency, both in the WH and Congress, by the way, before you blowhards auto-react with your pitiful cries of “racist!”

These ‘retirements’ are the new century’s form of hara-kiri, however, politicians these days have no honor, so it is more akin to taking out their own trash.

I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o

January 6th, 2010
9:05 am

Anyone read the complicated story of the CIA suicide bomber in Afghanistan? The more info you read, the more questions arise. It seems nobody can decide whether the bomber was a double crossing triple agent, or a triple crossing double agent, or something.

The voters aren’t going to like this story, Barrack.

Paul

January 6th, 2010
9:06 am

Good Morning, Mrs. Godzilla 8:48

May I use those two cites as a segue to another point regarding Mr. Steele? He also said Republicans have pretty well screwed up since Reagan and even if they did obtain a majority, they may not be ready to lead.

I thought that honestly hopeful – democracy doesn’t well function with one party riding roughshod. But then I read his prescription, which struck me as more of the ‘return to those principles of yesteryear, held dear by a fourth of the population when it comes time to cast a vote.”

I think they’ll be wandering in the wilderness for a few more years.

TnGelding

January 6th, 2010
9:06 am

The health care legislation will have more of an effect than the economy. Obama will get credit for that, not Congress. All of North Dakotas’s members are Democrats. I don’t see that changing. I hate to see Dorgan leave. He’s one of the few sane voices left on the economy.

Jenifer

January 6th, 2010
9:06 am

republicants should run Virginia Foxx of NC for prez and Michele Bachmann of MN for vice. It’s way past time to let the ladies show their stuff.

Normal

January 6th, 2010
9:07 am

Heard on NPR this morning that Greece is in so much financial trouble that if She defaults, it could drag down the Euro system. Is a country to big to fail? The other Euro Nations say no (for now). This may be what the world is headed for. Global backruptcy. Ought to be interesting to watch…

I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o

January 6th, 2010
9:07 am

Regis is especially funny today.

LA

January 6th, 2010
9:08 am

Bud Wiser, railing on Bush is going to get Democrats nowhere.

The GOP will simply paint them as idiots. And rightfully so.

Overspending, bad health care bills, bad on national security, bad with the economy, broken promises………..

No more “You’z a racist and I hate Bush!!!!!!!”

Taxpayer

January 6th, 2010
9:08 am

LA,

That’s OK. I’m not averse to clean messin’ around. A little banter can be fun.

I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o

January 6th, 2010
9:09 am

Not only that, Normal, but if the Mayan Calander fails, it could bring down the Julian Calendar, which would end leap year as we know it.

LA

January 6th, 2010
9:10 am

Taxpayer, but really, California and Michigan are both headed for bankruptcy.

Some proof: government shutdown on a weekly basis. IOU’s sent out to government employees, unemployment checks and income tax refunds from the states. All signs that a state will soon go bankrupt.

Bottom line: Those states will have no choice but to kill government programs. Not a bad thing!

Paul

January 6th, 2010
9:10 am

Hi there, Doggone/GA

Aside from the Iraq resolution, do you have any other examples of “a power-grab that runs counter to the separation of powers embodied in the Constitution”?

As I said, my impression is Pres Obama is continuing many of the same principles that so angered the Left under Bush.

Oh, and doesn’t the fact that the Pres sought a resolution from Congress demonstrate that he was not pursuing a “Unitary Executive”? Else he would have proceeded on his own.

jconservative

January 6th, 2010
9:11 am

The Dodd seat in Connecticut will go to the Atty Gen there, Blumenthal. he is a shoo in to replace Dodd.

LA

January 6th, 2010
9:12 am

Father Knows Best

Surely, the most important, interesting — and, yes, heroic — figure in the whole Christmas Day Northwest airliner affair was the would-be bomber’s father, the Nigerian banker Alhaji Umaru Mutallab.

Mutallab did something that, as far as we know, no other parent of a suicide bomber has done: He went to the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria and warned us that text messages from his son revealed that he was in Yemen and had become a fervent, and possibly dangerous, radical.

We are turning ourselves inside out over how our system broke down — and surely it did — in allowing Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the would-be suicide bomber, to board that airliner. But his father, in effect, told us something else: “My family system, our village system, broke down. My own son fell under the influence of a jihadist version of Islam that I do not recognize and have reason to fear.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/opinion/06friedman.html

Outhouse Go-Kart

January 6th, 2010
9:12 am

“…House of Lords to some semblance of responsible, representative democracy.”

We are not a democracy but a Republic.

Liberals are morons

January 6th, 2010
9:12 am

This is all great news and will help lead this country to salvation. Once the democrats lose control of senate, obama is a lame duck for his last two years in office. I just pray the republicans or independents that fill those spots go in with the people’s best interest, something that the democrats seem not to care about one bit!

Taxpayer

January 6th, 2010
9:14 am

Where was C-Span when Tom Price was standing there sounding like a broken record, “I Object… I Object… I Object… I Object… I Object…” and why would Obama want to waste his time listening to that when he can go before all of the Republicans at once and be called a liar, live, on TV. It makes for much better drama. And the suspense!!! Wasn’t it great!

FrankLeeDarling

January 6th, 2010
9:14 am

Don”t worry once we finish weeding out the republicans then we can start on the dems.

Finn McCool

January 6th, 2010
9:15 am

It’s 9:15am in Key West. Where are your hands?

The boss said I wasn’t yet naked when I ran down Duval Street last night so I guess I still have a job.

Have fun with the wingnuts!

Paul

January 6th, 2010
9:15 am

Hello, LA

“railing on Bush is going to get Democrats nowhere.”

That may be a lesson Pres Obama is learning. From the initial response of “hey, we inherited this watch list thing from Bush” to yesterday’s “we’re not going to engage in fingerpointing” it’s….

wait….

Did Pres Obama mean Democrats aren’t going to point fingers at themselves so they can keep pointing all their fingers at Bush?

:-)

Mrs. Godzilla

January 6th, 2010
9:15 am

Peadawg

Do you really not know how a President can have lower numbers 11 months
after inauguration and still be popular?

Really? Think hard!

I’ll let Fox News learn ya’….

Majority of Americans Like Obama Personally But Not His Policies, Poll Finds

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/19/obamas-approval-rating-dips-percent-time-poll-finds/?test=latestnews

America likes this man.

Jay

January 6th, 2010
9:16 am

Outhouse, we are a republic AND a democracy.

A republic is merely a type of democracy, just as an apple is a type of fruit.

Finn McCool

January 6th, 2010
9:18 am

OK, it was my boss who was naked running down Duval Street.

jt

January 6th, 2010
9:18 am

A welfare state is frightened of every poor person who tries to get in and every rich person who tries to get out.

-Harry Browne

Peadawg

January 6th, 2010
9:20 am

“Do you really not know how a President can have lower numbers 11 months after inauguration and still be popular?”

Nope. That tells me his popularity has gone down. I know you Dems like to sugar-coat things…but I don’t see how you can sugar-coat this…

El Jefe

January 6th, 2010
9:20 am

I really do not think that Congressmen who represent the people that elected them have anything to worry about. Only those that pander, accept bribes, are ideologues, will vote party line instead of their constituents choice or are elitists are the only ones that have to worry.

Party is not the issue, it is having a representative in Congress that understands the limits of Congressional power.

Peadawg

January 6th, 2010
9:22 am

“Majority of Americans Like Obama Personally But Not His Policies, Poll Finds”

So, Obama is a good guy, but shouldn’t be running the country. Gotcha!

Paul

January 6th, 2010
9:22 am

Mrs. Godzilla 9:15

But isn’t the question: even though someone may get elected with high personal favorability ratings (and low knowledge by the voters of legislative history), after four years, if voters have doubts about the effects of many of the policies and their implication for the future, are they willing to vote for another four years of those policies, even if the candidate is a nice guy?

Doggone/GA

January 6th, 2010
9:22 am

“do you have any other examples of “a power-grab that runs counter to the separation of powers embodied in the Constitution”?”

Bush’s extreme use of signing statements is the one that comes most immediately to mind. Here’s an article discussing that issue: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

“As I said, my impression is Pres Obama is continuing many of the same principles that so angered the Left under Bush”

Too early to be absolutely sure. Sometimes it is necessary to continue past policies in order to forumlate a transition…but we’ll see. I’m suspending judgement on that for the time being.

“Oh, and doesn’t the fact that the Pres sought a resolution from Congress demonstrate that he was not pursuing a “Unitary Executive”? Else he would have proceeded on his own”

Not necessarily. It was, in my opinion, a solely political move to force a vote on the plan he had already decided to do. He took advantage of the country’s mood and those idiots in Congress – and I speak of Democrats here – followed along like little lost sheep.

El Jefe

January 6th, 2010
9:23 am

Jay, I have to disagree with you, they are two entirely different forms of government. With your logic, the Potemkin style of government in China is a form of democracy.

jt

January 6th, 2010
9:24 am

Quand donc je refuse d’obéir à une loi injuste, je ne dénie point à la majorité le droit de commander; j’en appelle seulement de la souveraineté du peuple à la souveraineté du genre humain. Il y a des gens qui n’ont pas craint de dire qu’un peuple, dans les objets qui n’intéressaient que lui-même, ne pouvait sortir entièrement des limites de la justice et de la raison, et qu’ainsi on ne devait pas craindre de donner tout pouvoir à la majorité qui le représente. Mais c’est là un langage d’esclave.

——————–Alexis de Tocqueville

Taxpayer

January 6th, 2010
9:24 am

but I don’t see how you can sugar-coat this…

Well, if you start with a double boiler…

Outhouse Go-Kart

January 6th, 2010
9:25 am

Kinda like a Granny Smith apple vs a horse apple?

Doggone/GA

January 6th, 2010
9:25 am

“We are not a democracy but a Republic”

That’s like saying “I don’t own a Ford, I own a car”