Cold? It might be even colder if not for global warming

Cold enough for you?

The temperature today isn’t predicted to rise above freezing, and the low tonight is supposed to be a frigid 18 degrees. In other words, the weather gives us a perfect opportunity to talk a little more about the realities of global warming.

For starters, this isn’t really very cold. Atlanta’s record low for today, Jan. 5, was 3 degrees, set back in 1884; the record low for tomorrow, Jan. 6, was minus 1, also set in 1884. That’s cold. Compared to those temperatures, today is practically balmy.

In fact, winter weather here in Atlanta has been getting warmer and warmer. Over the past 15 years, according to Weather Channel data, we’ve set seven record highs for January. We have set no record lows.

I made a similar point in a column last month, noting that 24 out of the 31 daily record highs for December had been set just in the last 25 years, while we set only 3 record lows in that time frame.

In that column, I also warned against the fallacy of trying to draw larger conclusions from temperatures in just one location, such as Atlanta. But as it turns out, scientists at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado had noticed the same phenomenon but on a national scale:

BOULDER—Spurred by a warming climate, daily record high temperatures occurred twice as often as record lows over the last decade across the continental United States, new research shows. The ratio of record highs to lows is likely to increase dramatically in coming decades if emissions of greenhouse gases continue to climb.

“Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather in the United States,” says Gerald Meehl, the lead author and a senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). “The ways these records are being broken show how our climate is already shifting.”

The study, by authors at NCAR, Climate Central, The Weather Channel, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), has been accepted for publication in Geophysical Research Letters. It was funded by the National Science Foundation, NCAR’s sponsor, the Department of Energy, and Climate Central.

If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Instead, for the period from January 1, 2000, to September 30, 2009, the continental United States set 291,237 record highs and 142,420 record lows, as the country experienced unusually mild winter weather and intense summer heat waves….

“If the climate weren’t changing, you would expect the number of temperature records to diminish significantly over time,” says Claudia Tebaldi, a statistician with Climate Central who is one of the paper’s co-authors. “As you measure the high and low daily temperatures each year, it normally becomes more difficult to break a record after a number of years. But as the average temperatures continue to rise this century, we will keep setting more record highs.”

Basic CMYK

This graphic shows the ratio of record daily highs to record daily lows observed at about 1,800 weather stations in the 48 contiguous United States from January 1950 through September 2009. Each bar shows the proportion of record highs (red) to record lows (blue) for each decade. The 1960s and 1970s saw slightly more record daily lows than highs, but in the last 30 years record highs have increasingly predominated, with the ratio now about two-to-one for the 48 states as a whole.

Climate is an average taken over time, just as a baseball batting average is measured over time. In both cases, you’re still going to get day-to-day fluctuations. Ted Williams was a great hitter, the last man to hit .400 over a season, but even he went 0 for 5 pretty often. He just had fewer of those cold hitting spells than poor hitters did.

Likewise, even in a warming climate, you’re going to get the occasional cold spell, which is what we’re seeing today. You still get variations of heat and cold. But if the planet is indeed warming, you would expect to get fewer and fewer record lows over time, and more and more record highs.

That is exactly the pattern we’re seeing.

288 comments Add your comment

Dave R.

January 5th, 2010
12:11 pm

f there is such a thing as man-made global warming, and we have more humans on the planet than in previous years, and have done nothing to change our ways environmentally in the past few years, how can temperatures possible get colder from one year (or years) to the next?

It is not possible.

Man-made global warming is the biggest sham next to Hope & Change.

Dave R.

January 5th, 2010
12:11 pm

First!

And right as usual! :D

Outhouse Go-Kart

January 5th, 2010
12:11 pm

Its not near as cold as some of the women I know.

USinUK

January 5th, 2010
12:11 pm

as I keep saying … snow in January does not disprove global warming. snow in July? then, you’d have a point.

Sam

January 5th, 2010
12:12 pm

thank you jay..it takes guts to write a global warming column today.

getalife

January 5th, 2010
12:12 pm

Red meat for the cons.

Sam

January 5th, 2010
12:12 pm

not so fast dave

RW-(the original)

January 5th, 2010
12:16 pm

I made a similar point in a column last month, noting that 24 out of the 31 daily record highs for December had been set just in the last 25 years, while we set only 3 record lows in that time frame.

And just as it was in the column last month those record highs and record lows are only records within a fraction of time so small as to be laughable. Just what fraction of 100’s of millions of years is 150 or so years anyway?

stands for decibels

January 5th, 2010
12:17 pm

how can temperatures possible get colder from one year (or years) to the next?

And like, how can they bust me for something that grows in the ground, man?

I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

January 5th, 2010
12:18 pm

No doubt the record high thermometers are located in some end of the world kook’s oven.

BeeJay

January 5th, 2010
12:18 pm

OMG. Yeah, 18 is balmy. Keep making a fool of yourself.

Jay

January 5th, 2010
12:21 pm

Dave, if your pet argument was as compelling as you believe, surely other climate-change skeptics would be using it as well.

Yet they don’t. You know why? Because it makes no sense.

Read the post. Ted Williams was a great hitter, one of the best of all time. But sometimes he went through cold spells and hot spells, just as all great hitters do. Day to day and even year to year fluctuations tell you nothing about climate change. They’re normal and expected.

I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

January 5th, 2010
12:30 pm

The average temperature of the world has not risen one degree in an entire decade. How is this even remotely consistent with the theory of global warming?

Dave R.

January 5th, 2010
12:30 pm

Sorry, Jay,but if man is truly the cause of global warming as all you libs say, and we have more of us on the planet each year and have done nothing to change our ways, then there is absolutely NO WAY for temperatures to ever go down from one year to the next.

Climate change is due to many factors, and man might be responsible for a small portion of it, but it is more likely that the Sun was putting out more energy during the warming years than it is now. And maybe all that data about the other uninhabited planets in our Solar System also increasing in temperature during the same timeframes might point out that simple little theory as well.

Either way, if man is responsible, there is no way for temps to drop any year from previous years and they have. Your pet theory is junk science, promulgated by the libs and justified by the government-paid “scientists” who wouldn’t have a job if not to try to keep the funding going.

Southern Comfort

January 5th, 2010
12:31 pm

Jay

You go from health care to global warming. Are you trying to set a record for the most posts in one day? I’m guessing this one will hit the 300’s. By 120 it will be Dems vs. Reps again, though.

Bud Wiser

January 5th, 2010
12:31 pm

Oh yeah, and I wish I had remembered the name of that tool Bret Hume was interviewing yesterday, who finally came out and said that these cold spells were predicted by global warmers 2 years ago……

The idiots warmers now claim that heat causes cold…..and heat causes more heat.

Now that’s a string of irrefutable logic no one could possibly counter, if of course the premise were accepted as factual.

Which it is not.

stands for decibels

January 5th, 2010
12:34 pm

those record highs and record lows are only records within a fraction of time so small as to be laughable.

hey, wait, RW’s on to something.

Has anyone told those crazy librul climatalogical guys that the world’s been around for more than a few hundred years? I’m not sure they know that.

TW

January 5th, 2010
12:36 pm

“f there is such a thing as man-made global warming, and we have more humans on the planet than in previous years, and have done nothing to change our ways environmentally in the past few years, how can temperatures possible get colder from one year (or years) to the next?”

I think that’s on a plaque in the ‘w’ library :)

jt

January 5th, 2010
12:37 pm

Man-made global warming is an important tool in assessing a person’s intelligence or gullibility level.

It is quite useful when interviewing job candidates. Or for judging a periodical’s legitimacy.

Steve

January 5th, 2010
12:38 pm

It’s all just a bunch of bad thermometer readings. There are more thermometers now, therefore the probability of a bad readings has gone up. Some thermometers are located next to asphalt parking lots and other man made structures that cause the temperature to rise locally. http://www.surfacestations.org/odd_sites.htm

Jenifer

January 5th, 2010
12:41 pm

Everyone should be aware by now that there is no such thing as global warming. It is God holding us extra close. You betcha’!

Doggone/GA

January 5th, 2010
12:42 pm

Jen…are you sure it’s not the Devil? All that heat, you know!

Marty

January 5th, 2010
12:44 pm

Gee… can’t the manmade global warming fearmongers EVER tell the truth? According to the National Weather Service the record low temperature on January 5th in Atlanta is 11 degrees. Here’s a link to that actual table at the NWS which lists the record lows temps by day:

http://nowdata.rcc-acis.org/FFC/pubACIS_results

And here’s a link where you can look up the data for yourself:

http://www.weather.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=ffc

Perhaps you should do a little research before writing fictional op-eds. Oh… never mind. I forgot that the truth doesn’t fit your agenda.

Bud Wiser

January 5th, 2010
12:45 pm

Dave R.’s argument above makes more sense than any I’ve seen in a long time.

If man is causing warming, every day the temp should be rising….

Wait….

There are suddenly more of those fluffy not-so-little polar bears than previously thought…

Burlington, Vt, set a single snowfall record for one day, @33″, that exceeded anything ever since record keeping has been done there. ….

So far this season Nashville, TN, has had a mean average temperature lower than that of Caribou, Maine (but without the snowfall)….

It snowed in Houston Texas in December, the first recorded snowfall in over 40 years….

Average temps in Seoul, S Korea, are running at record cold rates….

Europe is significantly colder, with more snowfall this year, than in decades….

And to believe the warmers, man-made global warming is causing it all.

Only a left brained idiot could possibly believe that crap, but then again these are the same morons that are electing Dopes with Chains, keeping Al Gore in dinner (and private jet) money, and contributing to every green cause on the planet.

You want to know what else is so sick about these people?

I saw, as I am sure many of you have seen lately, these ads on TV about ‘Save the Child’ and similar groups, all I’m sure that may be worthwhile….. well, there are also ads to (sic) “Save the Animals” (dogs/cats/birds/whatever).

Does anyone besides me wonder why you can save a child for ‘…less than a dollar a day…’, but that the animal rights saviors want just…”less than 2 dollars a day…’?

Am I missing something here? Maybe because with Obowocare now the value of a human life has now devalued to less than your neighbor Barney’s pet parakeet?

@@

January 5th, 2010
12:47 pm

Geez, jay! Security, health care, global warming

Security,

health care,

global warming.

Are you trying to convince yourself or others? Is yours an objective assessment or a biased assessment?

On the health care debate. You’re getting your poke from the porkers. Why do you keep squealing?

Warmer climates contribute to longevity. What’s not to like about it? Give me a climate that never dips below 80 degrees and I’m in heaven. Anything below is purgatory for me. The mere thought of cold weather gets me “down”.

Disgusted

January 5th, 2010
12:49 pm

Careful, Bookman, lest Dave R. drag out the “I was an elected official” card and drop it on you.

Innocent Bystander

January 5th, 2010
12:51 pm

I don’t care what you call it! It’s been years since I had to don the long johns!

Jenifer

January 5th, 2010
12:53 pm

“Jen…are you sure it’s not the Devil? All that heat, you know!”

You may be on to something. I can just see that devil stoking the fire with his pitchfork.

Outhouse Go-Kart

January 5th, 2010
12:54 pm

I guess its kinda like the stock market. How often does the market make new all time highs vs new all time lows? I bet the ratio favors the highs.

Peadawg

January 5th, 2010
12:57 pm

“as I keep saying … snow in January does not disprove global warming. snow in July? then, you’d have a point.”

What about March..is that good enough for ya?

Mrs. Godzilla

January 5th, 2010
12:57 pm

A polar bear walks into a bar and says, “When are you going to take action on global warming?”

The bartender, President Bush, says, “If you wait until the very end of my term, maybe we’ll set a goal for 2050. By the way, we don’t get many polar bears in here.”

The bear says, “And with these policies, you won’t be getting many more!”

Ridgerunner

January 5th, 2010
12:57 pm

Sometimes journalists go through cold spells and hot spells, just as all great hitters do.

Jenifer

January 5th, 2010
12:59 pm

Phooey on that global warming hooey. God’s got us in a bearhug and the devil’s upped the fire.

Peadawg

January 5th, 2010
12:59 pm

Mrs. Godzilla

Your sorry attempt at a joke made absolutely no since and didn’t even get a smile. Nice try though.

SouthGaDawg

January 5th, 2010
1:00 pm

Jay,

You should definately be a scientist. Please take Ms. Tucker with you when you resign to pursue your true calling. You guys can team up with Al Gore to make sure the world knows that “climate change” is happening.

Jay

January 5th, 2010
1:03 pm

Gee Marty, I went to the first site you mention, found the record low for Jan. 5 for Atlanta, and it states 3 degrees, just as I reported. Here’s the relevant portion of the table:

Day Jan
1 7
2 1
3 9
4 5
5 3
6 -1

Your claimed low of 11 degrees for this date was for ATHENS, not Atlanta, Marty.

As somebody once said:

“Perhaps you should do a little research before writing fictional op-eds. Oh… never mind. I forgot that the truth doesn’t fit your agenda.”

Ridgerunner

January 5th, 2010
1:07 pm

Hey folks, just remember that libs. never quit being college students. They have to have something to protest about or they will make it up.

Now check this out:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/amanda-simpson-transgender-presidential-appointee-begins-work-commerce/story?id=9477161

Do we really want a transgender presidential appointee who uses the phrase, “Being the first sucks” ?

Citizen of the World

January 5th, 2010
1:08 pm

Keep fighting the good fight, Jay.

Didn’t George W. Bush even finally concede (once it was too late for him to actually try to do something about it, of course) that global warming was happening and that manmade greenhouse gases appear to the be cause? Shouldn’t his acceptance be enough proof for some of these deniers? They believed him about everything else.

Jay

January 5th, 2010
1:10 pm

That is correct, Citizen. Bush made several public statements to that effect. He even campaigned in 2000 on regulating carbon as a pollutant but dropped that pledge once elected.

Peadawg

January 5th, 2010
1:11 pm

“but dropped that pledge once elected.”

How many has Obama dropped/not kept promises on? I’ll check back tomorrow once you count that high.

Kamchak

January 5th, 2010
1:14 pm

I guess its kinda like the stock market.

Yes, meteorology is the same as equity trading.

:roll:

Paul

January 5th, 2010
1:15 pm

Peadawg

I was really hoping no one was going to post that as the rejoinder is usually used. But since you did, can you look at it this way?

If Pres Bush acknowledged a mistake, adopted to changing circumstances, changed his mind and said so publicly, doesn’t that speak to his character? Doesn’t the same hold true for Pres Obama?

Later -

Midori

January 5th, 2010
1:16 pm

Jay,

why in the world do you even attempt to discuss science and common sense with these knuckle draggers???

They’d rather roll around in their own feces before agreeing with science.

Paul

January 5th, 2010
1:16 pm

Hi Midori!!!!! :-)

Now I really am gone -

stands for decibels

January 5th, 2010
1:16 pm

Do we really want a transgender presidential appointee who uses the phrase, “Being the first sucks” ?

Only if it didn’t actually suck to be the first. But I imagine it probably does.

Del

January 5th, 2010
1:17 pm

Global warming has become a fetish or maybe a religion to the far-left. If you question the validity of man created global warming you will be called a denier and scorned as an undesirable human being much like if you don’t fully embrace the theory of evolution. Global warming or climate change has not been proven beyond the fact that the climate has changed and fluctuated throughout the history of this planet.

Mrs. Godzilla

January 5th, 2010
1:17 pm

Peadawg

Q: How many climate sceptics does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None. It’s too early to say if the lightbulb needs changing.

I have put “making Peadawg guffaw” on my to do list.

Be glad, you’re above cleaning out the garage.

getalife

January 5th, 2010
1:17 pm

“Do we really want a transgender presidential appointee who uses the phrase, “Being the first sucks” ?”

Well, that is change.

Lord Help Us

January 5th, 2010
1:18 pm

Yea, I was peeved at Bush for tossing his pledge regarding carbon emissions very early in his first term. That pledge and the ‘compassionate conservatism’ BS, along with a butterfly ballot in Palm Beach, FL cost this country dearly…

If I considered myself a political conservative, I would be horrified that Bush’s foreign and domestic policies were neither conservative OR competent.

I REALLY wish we had counted those ballots accurately in Florida 8+ years ago…we would be much better off as a Nation…

stands for decibels

January 5th, 2010
1:20 pm

How many has Obama dropped/not kept promises on? I’ll check back tomorrow once you count that high.

I’m sure you’ve been introduced to this handy-dandy Obameter, but if not…

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

Seriously, why do you guys keep on trying to flog that dead horse?

AmVet

January 5th, 2010
1:21 pm

What we need is a good old fashion extinction, climate induced or otherwise. Of the T-Bagasauruses…

Silly science-hating flat earthers…

JSon

January 5th, 2010
1:21 pm

What gets me about most of these global warming deniers is that they are all so absolutely certain that there’s no global warming, even though they’re not climate scientists. That’s the big clue that tells me that they have no idea of what they’re talking about.

Peadawg

January 5th, 2010
1:22 pm

“Q: How many climate sceptics does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None. It’s too early to say if the lightbulb needs changing.”

That’s the best you can come up with? Really?

Peadawg

January 5th, 2010
1:24 pm

“What gets me about most of these global warming deniers is that they are all so absolutely certain that there’s no global warming, even though they’re not climate scientists”

How about this for ya…What gets me about most of these global warming “enthusiast”(I couldn’t think of a good word) is that they are all so absolutely certain that there is global warming, even though they’re not climate scientists

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:24 pm

Jay, do you realize that it’s January?

Things that happen in January: Snow, ice, frigid temps and Al Gore flying around the globe leaving a massive carbon footprint.

Stephen S

January 5th, 2010
1:25 pm

It’s really getting sickening, but every temperature event that happens, hot or cold, natural disaster or not, the global warming almarists somehow use it to support their theory. They conveniently blotted out the medieval warming period which was warmer than any temps in the past decade, and they have gotten caught repeatedly in lies and baseless extraordinary predictions that never come true, such as John Holdren, Obama’s science czar, who said sea levels would rise 13 feet. In that time period, they rose 7 to 23 inches.

Taxpayer

January 5th, 2010
1:25 pm

Wow,

Some of these people here actually think that they’re presenting an argument when they say things like “it’s cold so that means it’s global cooling.” And some wonder why so many of our thirty-something teachers are bald and / or graying and ready to retire. Anyway, as long as they bring in revenue, the AJC has no room to complain.

Robert

January 5th, 2010
1:25 pm

I know it’s a bit to read, but worth it if you want to be enlightened.

http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/072609/opi_470890613.shtml

“Flash forward to 2008, when the airport saw more than 90 million passengers and more than 978,000 takeoffs and landings – a round-the-clock average of 111 operations per hour. Today, the airport covers 4,700 acres, or 7.3 square miles. That’s 28 percent of the size of 1920s’ Atlanta and 16 airports the size of Candler Field.

Not only that; nearly 30,000 public parking spaces are at the airport and 30 shuttle services operate from the airport, along with about 55,000 employees.

What’s the significance of these soaring numbers? This is the tip of the iceberg – or the heat island, so to speak. Since 1928, Atlanta’s official weather station has been located at the airport. Its location – impacted by the urbanization, traffic, runways and the removal of vegetation at the airport and surrounding areas – affects its readings, today and historically. And that is critical as government, scientists and activists seek to base policy on climate trend data generated by Atlanta’s and other such temperature stations.

The same holds true for readings from stations in urban areas such as Macon, Athens and Columbus, which are microclimates, impacted by infrastructure, and are risky markers for climate change trends. Surface thermometers that were once in rural or remote areas reflect higher temperatures as urbanization’s effects encroach.

A photograph of Atlanta’s airport weather station from the National Weather Service shows the runway lights next to the station. Watts’ study, which can be found at http://www.heartland .org/books/PDFs/Surface Stations.pdf, shows two Georgia stations. One, in Gainesville, is between two driveways and one in Tifton is near a road, sidewalk and air-conditioning units. That wasn’t always the case, but changing conditions impact the consistency of data-gathering, reduce the effect of comparisons and artificially bolster the case for global warming.

As the Heartland Institute notes on its Web site, “The conclusion is inescapable: The U.S. temperature record is unreliable,” Watts’ study finds. “And since the U.S. record is thought to be ‘the best in the world,’ it follows that the global database is likely similarly compromised and unreliable.”

Midori

January 5th, 2010
1:26 pm

Hi Paul, AmVet, Mrs. G, Getalife, SFD, LHU,

and a very happy new year to you all!!! :)

Doggone/GA

January 5th, 2010
1:26 pm

“Seriously, why do you guys keep on trying to flog that dead horse?”

Because flogging a live one can get your head kicked in?

Del

January 5th, 2010
1:26 pm

“I really wish had counted those ballots accurately in Florida 8+ years ago…we would be much better off as a Nation”

Yeah right! we could have had for president Al Gore the God of Global Warming and father of the internet.

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:26 pm

Taxpayer, are you a climatologist?

If so, what University did you earn your degree?

I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o

January 5th, 2010
1:27 pm

Record cold temperature might be the result of the ice cap melting and pulling down the cold ice water further and further south and cooling the oceans.

But you take a big chance with your credibility when you try to explain or predict the consequences of any global mean temperature trend.

I used to say, “It’s all part of planet formation.” Boy, was THAT ignorant! Now, with the discovery that there’s planets orbiting nearly every stinking star we look at, it seems that planet formation is a natural part of solar formation. So, with egg all over my face, I’m back to square one..or is it ground zero? Dammit, I can’t even get my cliches right when it comes to mean global temperature trends.

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:28 pm

AmVet-Bagasauruses…

Now, I was under the impression that teabagger was a banned word. Seems to me that AmVet ain’t none too bright.

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:28 pm

T-Bagasauruses…

-AmVet

Mrs. Godzilla

January 5th, 2010
1:29 pm

Peadawg

‘Fraid so.

Climate change really isn’t funny.

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:29 pm

If global warming is real then who really cares?

it’s not like anyone can stop it. Oh wait, Al Gore can. His magic silver spoon will save us all.

EXCELSIORRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Mrs. G (The Fake)

January 5th, 2010
1:29 pm

After I saw that cute Noah Wylie on TV warning about the fate of the polar bears I just knew global warming was the sh**. After all that he’s a doctor isn’t he?

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:30 pm

“Climate change really isn’t funny.”

No, it’s flat out boring. Same thing happens every year.

Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter

You’d think that Al Gore could invent a new season.

Citizen of the World

January 5th, 2010
1:31 pm

Al Gore buys carbon offsets to greatly reduce his carbon footprint, so the net effect of his flying around is negligible. But the deniers never bother to mention that.

Jay

January 5th, 2010
1:31 pm

Further enlightenment, Robert, from the NCAR site:

“The study team analyzed several million daily high and low temperature readings taken over the span of six decades at about 1,800 weather stations across the country, thereby ensuring ample data for statistically significant results. The readings, collected at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Climatic Data Center, undergo a quality control process at the data center that looks for such potential problems as missing data as well as inconsistent readings caused by changes in thermometers, station locations, or other factors. “

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:31 pm

Where’s that dude who said he had a democratic degree from UGA?

Lord Help Us

January 5th, 2010
1:31 pm

Wow, Del, you are pretty quick on the uptake their dude…

And, yes, I believe had we actually counted the ballots in Florida and experienced 8 years of Al Gore and Lieberman, we would be MUCH better off as a Nation.

No war in Iraq, continuation of Clinton’s fiscal policies (remember surpluses???), No torture, etc.

Just imagine…

Sam

January 5th, 2010
1:32 pm

well if the heartland institute say’s so..i guess its all a hoax. wait a minute, did the heritage foundation concur?

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:32 pm

“Al Gore buys carbon offsets to greatly reduce his carbon footprint, so the net effect of his flying around is negligible. But the deniers never bother to mention that.”

LOLOLOL!!!!!!! That’s the funniest most ridiculous thing I have ever read.

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:33 pm

Jay

NASCAR site?

Mrs. Godzilla

January 5th, 2010
1:34 pm

scrappy

January 5th, 2010
1:35 pm

If you don’t want to check facts or science about global warming and it causes – fine. But to state that there is NO possible way that global warming is happening because it is cold out today (& this week) is absolutely ridiculous.

I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o

January 5th, 2010
1:35 pm

If someone could predict something that can be verified about global temperatures, then we’d have our Einstein.

But so far, only Al Gore has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Repudlickans have ruined our planet through greed, treason, and being totally gay.

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:37 pm

I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o, yes, a man who failed out of Vanderbilt is MUCH smarter that Einstein, who by the way, invented the Atom Bomb.

Why do you hate gays?

Sunshine and Thunder

January 5th, 2010
1:37 pm

Let’s see if I have this right.

Since it was colder here in 1884 than it is today, global warming is real. I get it. Kinda like the report that we have the warmest weather in 15,000 years. Now how did the global warmers get their Kyoto passed in 13,000 BC? And how did we survive without it?

Didn’t we already have this discussion and show you the emails that your scientists were secretly sending to each other disproving their own theories?

Only in the left nut mind could cold weather be an indicator of warmth.

JSon

January 5th, 2010
1:37 pm

Thanks for this article, Jim. It’s nice to read one that tries to gather facts and analyze them in a scientific way.

Outhouse Go-Kart

January 5th, 2010
1:40 pm

A MAN da…lol!

JSon

January 5th, 2010
1:41 pm

whoops, I meant Thanks, Jay, not Thanks, Jim.

Outhouse Go-Kart

January 5th, 2010
1:41 pm

Better yet…A-MAN-DUH!!

Ridgerunner

January 5th, 2010
1:41 pm

Congrats

January 5th, 2010
1:41 pm

I’m trying to understand the benefits of NOT believing in Global warming. From what I am hearing it seems to be only monetary gains. Would someone kindly explain the practical reasons for being a non-believer of global warming?

Jake

January 5th, 2010
1:42 pm

Scrappy – Please review a little of the evidence for global cooling and get back with me. http://insciences.org/article.php?article_id=8012

CDog

January 5th, 2010
1:42 pm

I’m kind of dumb, I’m just really cold today. I guess I just hope that this global warming will hurry up so that my fingers don’t freeze off.

Peadawg

January 5th, 2010
1:43 pm

“practical reasons for being a non-believer of global warming?”

Waste of money to research something that isn’t real. But hey, that’s what Democrats are about right? Even when they say they will cut wasteful spending during their campaign.

I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o

January 5th, 2010
1:43 pm

The discussion here has devolved into attacks against opposing comments just like it always does 24/7 365.

The posters here cannot resist the playground bully syndrome from elementary school. Yes, it’s fun. (For the bully). for everyone else it’s obnoxious torture.

Worse, look how the bullies try to be clever with their put downs. Embarrassing!

Attack posts can be very funny, but there’s a handful of people in the world who can pull them off. Nobody here can. Not even close.

Global warming. It’s too easy to shoot down any data or comment of analysis. Just like it is to destroy anyone’s stock predictions. It’s only after the fact that the correct prediction is obvious.

Del

January 5th, 2010
1:45 pm

Lord Help Us,

Well of course you’re stating a supposition. Do you really think Gore and Lieberman would be on the same page regarding Iraq? Surpluses, you can thank Reagan for the peace dividend resulting from ending the cold war and a Republican Congress that helped Clinton resist pressure coming from his own party to tax and spend.

Jake

January 5th, 2010
1:45 pm

Any discussion of science should start with an acknowledgment of the difference between fact and theory. Way too many ignorant individuals like Lord and Mrs. G spouting off their opinions (theory) and presenting them as established facts, which global warming most definitely is not.

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:46 pm

Congrats says: Would someone kindly explain the practical reasons for being a non-believer of global warming?

Practical reasons:

1: We’re sane people who don’t believe a guy who says he invented the internet.

2: Even if it were true, which it isn’t, there is nothing we can do about it.

3: We don’t want to give up meat to save some San Fran liberal who lives off his/her conservative mom and dad’s money.

4: carbon offsets make absolutely no sense.

5: Hippies smell.

6: We like warm weather.

7: Al Gore is ugly.

Ridgerunner

January 5th, 2010
1:47 pm

To Congrats:

I repeat. You must realize that libs. have to have a cause …….. they never really leave college ……. they’ve got to have something to demonstrate about. It’s just their nature.

LA

January 5th, 2010
1:47 pm

I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o,

what put downs and who’s bullying?

Doggone/GA

January 5th, 2010
1:48 pm

“Any discussion of science should start with an acknowledgment of the difference between fact and theory.”

After all…gravity is just a theory, right? You need to learn the difference between a theory and a SCIENTIFIC theory. They are not the same thing.

Outhouse Go-Kart

January 5th, 2010
1:48 pm

LOL LA!

PS…next thing we know Jay will be telling us he too is transgender or shemale or transfixed or whatever it is or was or supposed to be…oh, nevermind.

Sam

January 5th, 2010
1:48 pm

yes, from now on anyone who believes in global warming can’t fly on an airplane, use any electricity in their house, drive a car, or do anything to heat the earth in any way…

Jake

January 5th, 2010
1:49 pm

Lord – The dotcom bubble burst and resulting recession was inevitable no matter who was elected in 2000. However, Gore probably wouldn’t have committed all those troops to Iraq or promoted the huge tax cut for the rich.