Cold? It might be even colder if not for global warming
Cold enough for you?
The temperature today isn’t predicted to rise above freezing, and the low tonight is supposed to be a frigid 18 degrees. In other words, the weather gives us a perfect opportunity to talk a little more about the realities of global warming.
For starters, this isn’t really very cold. Atlanta’s record low for today, Jan. 5, was 3 degrees, set back in 1884; the record low for tomorrow, Jan. 6, was minus 1, also set in 1884. That’s cold. Compared to those temperatures, today is practically balmy.
In fact, winter weather here in Atlanta has been getting warmer and warmer. Over the past 15 years, according to Weather Channel data, we’ve set seven record highs for January. We have set no record lows.
I made a similar point in a column last month, noting that 24 out of the 31 daily record highs for December had been set just in the last 25 years, while we set only 3 record lows in that time frame.
In that column, I also warned against the fallacy of trying to draw larger conclusions from temperatures in just one location, such as Atlanta. But as it turns out, scientists at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado had noticed the same phenomenon but on a national scale:
BOULDER—Spurred by a warming climate, daily record high temperatures occurred twice as often as record lows over the last decade across the continental United States, new research shows. The ratio of record highs to lows is likely to increase dramatically in coming decades if emissions of greenhouse gases continue to climb.
“Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather in the United States,” says Gerald Meehl, the lead author and a senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). “The ways these records are being broken show how our climate is already shifting.”
The study, by authors at NCAR, Climate Central, The Weather Channel, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), has been accepted for publication in Geophysical Research Letters. It was funded by the National Science Foundation, NCAR’s sponsor, the Department of Energy, and Climate Central.
If temperatures were not warming, the number of record daily highs and lows being set each year would be approximately even. Instead, for the period from January 1, 2000, to September 30, 2009, the continental United States set 291,237 record highs and 142,420 record lows, as the country experienced unusually mild winter weather and intense summer heat waves….
“If the climate weren’t changing, you would expect the number of temperature records to diminish significantly over time,” says Claudia Tebaldi, a statistician with Climate Central who is one of the paper’s co-authors. “As you measure the high and low daily temperatures each year, it normally becomes more difficult to break a record after a number of years. But as the average temperatures continue to rise this century, we will keep setting more record highs.”
This graphic shows the ratio of record daily highs to record daily lows observed at about 1,800 weather stations in the 48 contiguous United States from January 1950 through September 2009. Each bar shows the proportion of record highs (red) to record lows (blue) for each decade. The 1960s and 1970s saw slightly more record daily lows than highs, but in the last 30 years record highs have increasingly predominated, with the ratio now about two-to-one for the 48 states as a whole.
Climate is an average taken over time, just as a baseball batting average is measured over time. In both cases, you’re still going to get day-to-day fluctuations. Ted Williams was a great hitter, the last man to hit .400 over a season, but even he went 0 for 5 pretty often. He just had fewer of those cold hitting spells than poor hitters did.
Likewise, even in a warming climate, you’re going to get the occasional cold spell, which is what we’re seeing today. You still get variations of heat and cold. But if the planet is indeed warming, you would expect to get fewer and fewer record lows over time, and more and more record highs.
That is exactly the pattern we’re seeing.
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stands for decibels
January 5th, 2010
1:50 pm
And, yes, I believe had we actually counted the ballots in Florida and experienced 8 years of Al Gore and Lieberman, we would be MUCH better off as a Nation.
No war in Iraq, continuation of Clinton’s fiscal policies (remember surpluses???), No torture, etc.
Just imagine…
Dunno. Knowing what I know now about Joementum, I gotta wonder if Al would’ve even lived to celebrate his first year in office…
nah. I’m sure I’m just being paranoid here.
Normal
January 5th, 2010
1:51 pm
Lighten up y’all, here’s a funny for ya…
We were dressed and ready to go out for
the New Years Eve Party. We turned on
a night light, turned the answering machine on,
covered our pet parakeet and put the cat in
the backyard.
We phoned the local cab company and
requested a taxi.
The taxi arrived and we opened the front
door to leave the house.
The cat we put out in the yard, scoots back
into the house.. We didn’t want the cat shut in the house
because she always tries to eat the bird.
My wife goes out to the taxi,
while I went inside to get the cat. The
cat runs upstairs, with me in hot pursuit.
Waiting in the cab, my wife
doesn’t want the driver to know that
the house will be empty for the
night. So, she explains to the taxi driver
that I will be out soon,
‘He’s just going upstairs to say goodbye to my mother.’
A few minutes later, I get into the cab.
‘Sorry I took so long,’
I said, as we drove away. ‘That stupid
bitch was hiding under the bed. I had to poke her with a
coat hanger to get her to come out! She tried to take off,
so I grabbed her by the neck. Then, I had to wrap her in a
blanket to keep her from scratching me. But it worked! I
hauled her fat ass downstairs and threw her out into the back yard!’
The cab driver hit a parked car.
Congrats
January 5th, 2010
1:51 pm
Peadawg,
“Waste of money to research something that isn’t real.”
We’ve been spending money on moon research and sending people to Mars for years. We spend money on the research of all types of species, behaviors and lifestyles. There is a program that has been available for years that encourages people to request grants from the government for research.
I’ll ask again, why is global warming research causing such a stinker for non-believers?
LA
January 5th, 2010
1:52 pm
“Gore probably wouldn’t have committed all those troops to Iraq or promoted the huge tax cut for the rich.”
No, Gore would have armed our borders with troops to fight MANBEARPIG.
LA
January 5th, 2010
1:53 pm
I’ll ask again, why is global warming research causing such a stinker for non-believers?
The moon and Mars are real. Global warming is a scam.
We don’t have to alter our lifestyle and pay big taxes in order to study the moon and Mars.
Jake
January 5th, 2010
1:54 pm
doggone – As I’ve learned through several posts you have neither the intellect or education to attempt to teach me anything. FYI gravity is neither a theory nor a scientific theory, primarily because the data supporting it is vastly more verifiable than the global warming data. But since you’re so smart, please tell me why the average global temperature only increased 0.1 degrees Celsius from 1900 to 1950 despite the huge population increase and CO2 emissions (everyone was burning wood and coal)?
Taxpayer
January 5th, 2010
1:54 pm
LA,
Are you a cosmetologist? And if so, where do you get your hair done.
Peadawg
January 5th, 2010
1:55 pm
“I’ll ask again, why is global warming research causing such a stinker for non-believers?”
And I’ll say it again…Waste of money to research something that ISN’T REAL. What part of ISN’T REAL did you not understand? I’m guessing all of it.
Thom
January 5th, 2010
1:55 pm
The study you mention is bunk http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/16/why-ncars-meehl-paper-on-highlow-temperature-records-is-bunk/ . Do a little research Mr. Bookman.
Mrs. Godzilla
January 5th, 2010
1:56 pm
Jake
An a good afternoon to you to!
(course good is just an opinion)
Peadawg
January 5th, 2010
1:56 pm
Congrats, did your mommy and daddy not teach you the difference between real and make believe?
Jenifer
January 5th, 2010
1:57 pm
God loves us and wants us to be warm.
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
1:57 pm
Sorry Jake…you lost me a while back with your ‘kill all the Muslims just to be sure’ approach to terrorism…
I can’t bring myself to have a dialogue with anyone that immoral AND stupid…
LA
January 5th, 2010
1:57 pm
Taxpayer, no but I do have a pretty young lady who cuts my hair.
I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o
January 5th, 2010
1:58 pm
The real question is about taxes. Is there one person willing to pay for someone else’s theory about the how and why of mean global temperatures?
No. Not me, I can’t afford it. Look, I make my living writing instructions on generic bathroom tissue packages for third-world off-brand merchandizing knock offs.. Things are tight. Read my lips: no new taxes, please.
Doggone/GA
January 5th, 2010
2:00 pm
“Waste of money to research something that ISN’T REAL.”
Yeah? Well, we didn’t REALLY find out the moon WASN’T made of green cheese until we went there, did we?
Congrats
January 5th, 2010
2:00 pm
Peadawg,
At least my big brother was able to prove to me that there was no Santa Claus or Easter Bunny. I guess I should just take your word for it.
So, I’ll ask again – why is global warming research causing such a stinker for non-believers?
LA
January 5th, 2010
2:00 pm
I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o, weird, I had a job writing greeting cards for Hallmark.
Sam
January 5th, 2010
2:00 pm
LA,
i think she might’ve taken a little too much off the brain..
Mrs. Godzilla
January 5th, 2010
2:00 pm
seen that Anthony Watts get spanked a bunch a’ times.
they call him the climate crock!
LA
January 5th, 2010
2:01 pm
SAM!!!!!! It’s you! The gal who got her democratic degree from UGAY!!!!!!!
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
2:02 pm
Lots of ’scientists’ working for the tobacco industry used to say that nicotine is not addictive and can be good for you.
Thank goodness we did a little research on that issue…
LA
January 5th, 2010
2:03 pm
Lord Help Us, yeah but we could actually see smoke and cigarettes. Cigarettes were not made up by Owl Gore.
Peadawg
January 5th, 2010
2:04 pm
“Yeah? Well, we didn’t REALLY find out the moon WASN’T made of green cheese until we went there, did we?”
I never once though that. And Lord help the person who did. It doesn’t look like green cheese to begin with. Nice try though. Next?
Congrats, you’re hopeless.
LA
January 5th, 2010
2:05 pm
Lord Help Us, you should go up to DC and warn Obama about the effects of tobacco. Ya know, since he is a chain smoker.
Normal
January 5th, 2010
2:06 pm
LA, I can see why you don’t have that job anymore…everybody likes a little a$$, but nobody like a wi$ea$$…
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
2:06 pm
LA, thanks to the pollutants causing global warming we can see the air we breathe better now too…LOL!!!!
Jenifer
January 5th, 2010
2:07 pm
The devil is doing his part to keep us warm also. The fire is seeping up through the ground and warming us. Thank you, Mr. Devil.
Jake
January 5th, 2010
2:07 pm
Lord – I wouldn’t expect anyone that subscribes to mysticism to the extent he refers to himself as ‘Lord Help us’ to comprehend the difference between a discussion involving science, evidence, and theory vs. fact, and a discussion involivng ethics. Just for the record, there isn’t any Lord, certainly not in any ethical sense, and the evidence for that theory is overwhelming.
LA
January 5th, 2010
2:08 pm
Normal, I had that job out of college. Pretty funny job.
Lord Help Us, you are one strange woman.
LA
January 5th, 2010
2:10 pm
Lord Help Us, are you into Dungeons and Dragons?
If so, sorry about your pals at Piedmont Park the other day. I sort of “accidentally” threw a football and nailed one of them in the head as he swung his fake sword at his fake dragon friend.
Still, it was pretty funny to watch him fall all over his wizard friends.
Peadawg
January 5th, 2010
2:10 pm
“LA, thanks to the pollutants causing global warming we can see the air we breathe better now too…LOL!!!!”
Only when it’s cold.
Gale
January 5th, 2010
2:10 pm
OMG Normal @1:51. Thank goodness I had my conference call on mute! Where’s that screen cleaner.
Sam
January 5th, 2010
2:10 pm
writing for hallmark, now it all makes perfect sense. spouting lameness and leaking useless/brainless rhetoric, i guess it never quite leaves your system.
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
2:10 pm
Jake, Lord help YOU!!!! (you should take any help you can get…)
Sam
January 5th, 2010
2:11 pm
i actually wish i went to uga, every time i’ve been there its been a blast, all the graduates seem to rave about it, the education is getting better…seems pretty good to me.
Jake
January 5th, 2010
2:12 pm
Lord – BTW, today’s topic is not what to do about the Middle East jihadists. Today’s topic is global warming. What does jesus teach you about the morality of that subject?
LA
January 5th, 2010
2:12 pm
Sam, yeah but I guess my degree doesn’t match up to your UGAY democratic degree.
thomas
January 5th, 2010
2:13 pm
Was the end of the iceages caused by man-made global warming?
Was the Huronian Ice age 2.4-2.1 billion years ago caused by man-made GW?
Was the Cryogenian Ice age 850-630 million years ago caused by man-made GW?
One last questions for all who are apparently SURE that man-made global warming is a fact.
What is the evidence that the medieval warm period (which was very, very close to the exact same temps as today’s) was caused by man-made global warming?
If man-made global warming was not responsible for the Medieval warming period, then is it possible that man is not the main factor of our current day warming period?
LA
January 5th, 2010
2:14 pm
Sam, I must have you mixed up with TW.
Anyhoo, sorry about that. Who are you again?
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
2:15 pm
LA at 2:10…What are you talking about???
Can I have some of whatever you’re smokin’
Jenifer
January 5th, 2010
2:15 pm
“Lighten up y’all, here’s a funny for ya…”
Hysterical!
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
2:16 pm
Jake, to be a good steward of a very precious and special planet.
Jake
January 5th, 2010
2:17 pm
What’s hilarious is that this is a theoretical discussion about global warming, fact or fiction, and the sides are almost universally aligned with their political position.
Outhouse Go-Kart
January 5th, 2010
2:20 pm
thomas
January 5th, 2010
2:13 pm
Good luck with that one. Once it was discovered The Goron invented the internet, he and his disciples have never looked back.
Jake
January 5th, 2010
2:21 pm
Lord – I agree with that, but I’d expect more about the sacredness of all the human lives on this special planet from you. After all, come warm or come cool, the planet will still be here. Ever think that if we’d just wipe all the scum off the streets and start over mankind might be a kinder, gentler species?
Jenifer
January 5th, 2010
2:21 pm
Hmmm, I wonder if the heat is getting to be a bit much…
Outhouse Go-Kart
January 5th, 2010
2:22 pm
Jake
January 5th, 2010
2:17 pm
Or perhaps aligned with their monetary relinquishment, or lack thereof, side.
Its all about control and grandiose idiocy by the likes of so called experts like The Goron.
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
2:22 pm
Yea Jake, almost as hilarious as the ‘thoretical discussion’ the other day about terrorism where some person (who I won’t mention) seriously wrote that their approach to the issue would be to ‘kill ALL Muslims…just to be sure.’
Man, that was hilarious…
Doggone/GA
January 5th, 2010
2:23 pm
“invented the internet”
Never let a good lie die
thomas
January 5th, 2010
2:23 pm
Outhouse,
Could be a while for an anwser to those questions. Maybe Jay would love to answer it since he loves to prove those who aren’t on his side wrong.
Mrs. Godzilla
January 5th, 2010
2:23 pm
Jake
por vous
http://www.rep.org/index.html
http://greenlibertarian.net/index.php/core-issues/52-environment
universal…..
Jenifer
January 5th, 2010
2:23 pm
I’m thinking the devil may be working a little too hard…
Oh Brit the Hume, where are you when we need you?
thomas
January 5th, 2010
2:24 pm
Kinda like your green cheese lie?
The Nerve
January 5th, 2010
2:26 pm
Looking forward to responses from Thomas.
“invented the internet” lie…kind of like the “I can see Russia from my house” lie, isn’t it?
Don’t want to imply that I like SP though…..’cause I don’t.
pat
January 5th, 2010
2:26 pm
Oh brother, really? Tell me your joking for the love of sadie?
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
2:26 pm
Jake, great idea (man, you are quite the deviant) are you the one that will determine who is and isn’t scum??? What if we determine that ’scum’ would be someone who thinks that all Muslims should be killed. Then you would be ‘wiped off the streets’ and the world would be a kinder, gentler place…
Geez, are you for real???
LA
January 5th, 2010
2:27 pm
Lord Help Us, someone mentioned that you were into weird stuff. Never mind.
pat
January 5th, 2010
2:29 pm
Just because it could be colder doesn’t mean it should be.
Also, as the winters have been mild the summers have been cooler as well. It’s called cycles, the Earth goes through them all the time. Some are warmer some are cooler. It’s no big deal really.
I wish the earth would warm, I hate the cold anyway.
GreenJeans
January 5th, 2010
2:29 pm
Over the holidays I was back home in Dallas going through some old family photos from the ’30s through ’60s. They were all taken in East and West Texas, and the Metroplex.
We all noted the amount of snow that used to fall, and discussed how tire chains were necessary through the early ’70s or so. Now they’re rusting up in tow sacks.
Here in our part of CO the snowstorms are fewer and dump less snow. I’ve been able to plant several varieties of vegetation that the natives tell me won’t survive; they’re doing fine for going on five years now, albeit with some heavy mulching and a little extra care.
Is global warming caused by human beings? Does it matter? My vote goes toward making changes that err on the side of caution, prevention and progress. Short-term growing pains be damned, the next generations deserve it.
Sam
January 5th, 2010
2:30 pm
you talk so much sh*t you cant even keep it straight…
LA
January 5th, 2010
2:30 pm
The Nerve, yeah but Palin didn;t lie about it. She can see Russia from her house.
AL GORE is too busy chasing after MANBEARPIG!!!!!!!
Doggone/GA
January 5th, 2010
2:30 pm
“Kinda like your green cheese lie?”
What green cheese lie? I never said the moon WAS made of green cheese (which would have been a lie) – I only said we didn’t know for SURE until we went there (which is a plain statement of fact)
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
2:30 pm
LA, is fishing weird?
LA
January 5th, 2010
2:32 pm
Lord Help Us, fishing for dead people is weird.
Congrats
January 5th, 2010
2:33 pm
If the technology and capabilities that exist today, had indeed existed back during Huronian Ice age and Cryogenian Ice age; we might be living in a different kind of world.
I’m sure there were warning signs…. just like Eve was warned about the forbidden fruit.
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
2:35 pm
LA, I think I’m okay then. I stick to Largemouths, Lunkers, HAWGs, etc. (with cold beer always nearby)
Jake
January 5th, 2010
2:37 pm
Lord – I was thinking more like getting rid of the neocon pro-war, anti global warming scum.
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
2:39 pm
No Jake, I hope that even the most ignorant can learn from their mistakes…
Matilda
January 5th, 2010
2:44 pm
Green Jeans: “Is global warming caused by human beings? Does it matter? My vote goes toward making changes that err on the side of caution, prevention and progress. Short-term growing pains be damned, the next generations deserve it.”
Thank you! I also wonder what the heck is so objectionable about clean air, water, and land? Why does the idea of discovering and implementing CLEAN forms of energy bring such harsh criticism? How many loved ones must a person watch suffer and die from cancer before thinking, “Gee, toxins are bad for us, aren’t they?”
Jimminy H. Christmas on Peppermint Stick, y’all!! Going forward into the clean and green (and marketing the new technology to countries like China) is a win-win-win-win proposition, regardless of your religious, political, or scientific beliefs. Seriously, WTF?
thomas
January 5th, 2010
2:44 pm
Nope but you did write and I quote
“Yeah? Well, we didn’t REALLY find out the moon WASN’T made of green cheese until we went there, did we?”
So by saying we didn’t find out who is the we you are speaking of?
Or did you not write that?
Ridgerunner
January 5th, 2010
2:45 pm
Lord Help Us:
You can go back and find old t.v. cigarette commercials with “doctors” saying they are “just fine”.
If you have ever spent much time in the courtroom, you know you can find “expert testimony” that will have opposite opinions. Money buys anything. In this case, it’s political correctness and the fear of being “blacklisted” by your liberal counterparts.
Robert
January 5th, 2010
2:46 pm
Jay, even more enlightenment, from http://www.surfacestations.org website.
NEWS Updated 07/16/2009
Surfacestations project reaches 82% of the network surveyed. 1003 of 1221 stations have been examined in the USHCN network.
The reliability of the data used to document temperature trends is important, and we can’t know for sure if global warming is a problem if we can’t trust the data. This is evident when looking at the above link and the pdf report within it, which shows that that 89 percent of the stations – nearly 9 of every 10 – fail to meet the National Weather Service’s own siting requirements that stations must be 30 meters (about 100 feet) or more away from an artificial heating or radiating/
reflecting heat source. In other words, 9 of every 10 stations are likely reporting higher or rising temperatures because they are badly sited.
“It gets worse. We observed that changes in the technology of temperature stations over time also has caused them to report a false warming trend. We found major gaps in the data record that were filled in with data from nearby sites, a practice that propagates and compounds errors. We found that adjustments to the data by both NOAA and another government agency, NASA, cause recent temperatures to look even higher. The conclusion is inescapable: The U.S. temperature record is unreliable.”
Doggone/GA
January 5th, 2010
2:47 pm
“So by saying we didn’t find out who is the we you are speaking of?”
We? anyone who ever heard that the moon was made of green cheese. Can you really not figure that one out for yourself?
Jenifer
January 5th, 2010
2:50 pm
“you talk so much sh*t you cant even keep it straight…”
Hey, whoever has the screen cleaner, please pass it to me.
Jake
January 5th, 2010
2:50 pm
Mrs. G – Merci. I’ve actually read a fair amount on the subject. I posted a link to a very respectable and unbiased source above that has evidence showing we’ve been cooling since about 2000 and the cause of the 1950-2000 warming was actually CFC’s not CO2. Did you know CFC’s in the atmosphere retain like three magnitudes of the heat CO2 does? I’m not screaming global warming is a myth, I’m saying it’s unproven. But what I really feel strongly about is that if global warming exists and if it actually represents a serious threat to life as we know it (wouldn’t longer growing seasons in Canada and Russia be a good thing?) O’s cap and trade proposals would not solve the problem. Just like the current health care legislation will not vastly improve out health care, and it certainly won’t reduce health care costs below 16% of GDP. I’m concerned that the newly empowered Dems will now push through another ill-conceived piece of legislation that we don’t really need primarily in the name of increasing government intervention into our daily lives. As a nation we are much dumber and much more dependent on Uncle Sam than we were in my youth, and I think that’s a bad and potentially very dangerous thing. Y2k will be the end of us all an dnow the earth is warming and the sky is falling and only the Dems can save us by appointing another 100 or 200 czars of global warming, cap and trade and universal health care oversight.
Mrs. Godzilla
January 5th, 2010
2:54 pm
watts…..surfacestations.org
meet you tube
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/15/93936/0201
Mrs. Godzilla
January 5th, 2010
3:01 pm
one of the last lines in the above video….
the folks that told us WMD’s were real are now telling us climate change is not.
don’t be fooled again.
Mrs. Godzilla
January 5th, 2010
3:02 pm
Jake
nice move….
Jake
January 5th, 2010
3:04 pm
Lord – It appears you believe in god and that life is more or less sacred. I believe in myself and my family and my country. The jihadists want to convert or kill all the non-believers or die trying. Due to America’s financial success, imperialist foreign policy, and zionist sympathies we have become the jihadist’s favorite target. So while you are disgusted by my willingness to throw out the wheat with the chaff (not that some 10th or 16th century Arabs are exactly prize wheat) I tell you it’s the only solution certain to eliminate the jihadist threat/problem. Just think of all the reductions in carbon emissions eliminating a billion Muslims would bring about!
thomas
January 5th, 2010
3:05 pm
So why say we? We includes yourself into that group. Were you or are you truely dumb enough to EVER need to really find out the moon was not made of green cheese.
You made no mention of anyone who ever heard the moon was green. You said “we”.
So I guess I cannot figure out what you mean or imply, I can only go by your words.
BTW the lie part I wqas referring to was that you claimed you and others didn’t know the moon was not cheese until we went there. That is false many on earth knew the moon was not cheese well before 1969. Because they were able to use telescopes. Matter of fact there were many who knew that the moon was an orbit of earth and not made of cheese as far back as the warming periods of the mideval period.
Outhouse Go-Kart
January 5th, 2010
3:07 pm
“Is global warming caused by human beings? Does it matter? My vote goes toward making changes that err on the side of caution, prevention and progress. Short-term growing pains be damned, the next generations deserve it.”
If you and Matilda had a clue about what this global climate change farce is all about you might just have a different opinion. I cant beleive some of you are to gullible, so trusting of the US GOVT, the EU, the UN etc.
Doggone/GA
January 5th, 2010
3:08 pm
Thomas – keep it up, you’re providing more amusement than you could EVER REALLY know.
Outhouse Go-Kart
January 5th, 2010
3:10 pm
PS…and all these other global chowder heads.
Mrs. Godzilla
January 5th, 2010
3:11 pm
gouda entertainment…..
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
3:17 pm
Jake, when your solutions to problems are wildly immoral, delusional AND impossible…perhaps it is time to either change medications, perform a lobotomy on yourself, commit yourself to a proper institution OR (perish the thought)…rethink your position.
Doggone/GA
January 5th, 2010
3:22 pm
LHS – it might not be prudent to assume that he actually knows his “solutions” are any of those.
Doggone/GA
January 5th, 2010
3:23 pm
oops! LHU!
Jake
January 5th, 2010
3:25 pm
Lord – Do you think it’s immoral to kill someone that’s trying to kill you? I believe jesus turned the other cheek and went rather meekly to the cross.
Taxpayer
January 5th, 2010
3:25 pm
Did someone mention radiative forcing of greenhouse gases.Here. Perhaps this will help.
pat
January 5th, 2010
3:26 pm
Anybody have any proof that today should be colder than it is?
Matilda
January 5th, 2010
3:27 pm
“I cant beleive some of you are to gullible, so trusting of the US GOVT, the EU, the UN etc.”
Speak for yourself, poo receptacle. I wasn’t gullible enough to believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11, that the Saudis are our friends, that KBR had the soldiers’ safety in mind when building electrified showers, that wiretapping US citizens without warrants was essential to our safety, that nobody knows what happened to the billion$ in Iraq, that the SEC was actually policing our financial system as per their job description, that marijuana is more dangerous than alcohol, or that rich men spend millions to give up lucrative paychecks for a Congressman’s wage because they give a *bleep* about my childrens’ future.
Regarding this topic, Green Jeans and I are simply pro-common sense. I’m sorry you find that idea so offensive to your core values.
Jake
January 5th, 2010
3:27 pm
Lord – Does your sect recognize the old testament? You know, the eye for an eye part?
Doggone/GA
January 5th, 2010
3:27 pm
“Anybody have any proof that today should be colder than it is?”
Nope, but the records Jay quoted show that it COULD BE colder than it is.
Outhouse Go-Kart
January 5th, 2010
3:28 pm
Dont know about all that but appears the chances of snow for metro ATL and North are diminishing rapidly.
For those of you who have jobs…please report promptly!
Doggone/GA
January 5th, 2010
3:28 pm
“You know, the eye for an eye part?”
Do YOU know that the “eye for an eye” passage is a plea for mercy, not a road map for revenge?
Hillbilly Deluxe
January 5th, 2010
3:29 pm
This really doesn’t have to do with global warming but after reading Jay’s piece, it got me to thinking. How many did times did Ted Williams go 0-5 in his career? I can find that he played 2292 regular season games with a lifetime batting average of .344 and only struck out 709 times in 7706 official at bats (which is mighty impressive in it’s own right) and drew 2019 walks for an on base percentage of .482. Anybody know how to find the answer to that?
Mrs. Godzilla
January 5th, 2010
3:30 pm
Matilda
BRAVA!
Lord Help Us
January 5th, 2010
3:31 pm
Jake, oh for crying out loud! Are you trying to say that since a tiny minority of whacked out jihadists are intent on killing Americans that we should kill ALL Muslims?!?!? Good heavens man, you need HELP!!!!
Robert
January 5th, 2010
3:31 pm
Matilda,
From your earlier post:
“Thank you! I also wonder what the heck is so objectionable about clean air, water, and land? Why does the idea of discovering and implementing CLEAN forms of energy bring such harsh criticism? How many loved ones must a person watch suffer and die from cancer before thinking, “Gee, toxins are bad for us, aren’t they?”
You stated earlier to me on the healthcare thread that you like to watch all news channels in order to keep an open mind and balanced perspective. If you actually do what you said, you would know that the debate is not about implementing cleaner forms of energy. It is about the left using questionable “science” in order to enforce a policy on all of us that would amount to additional taxes. This is about Cap and Tax, Matilda. Cap and Tax is a job killing piece of legislation that we especially don’t need during a recession. Do you know anyone against a cleaner earth? Wouldn’t we get cleaner energy much quicker if we invested the amount of time and money into actually producing technology for alternative energy or making the current technology better? This makes more sense than manipulating data to enforce a new tax scheme, which will do nothing but redistribute wealth.