The Right Rev. Brit Hume points the way to Tiger’s redemption
Kinda makes you wonder why God allowed that darned Buddhist to win so many golf tournaments over good Christian men. Then again, He also allowed a Muslim to be elected president of HIS country, the United States of Christian America.
But seriously, I do not understand and can’t begin to comprehend the arrogance it takes to publicly anoint yourself someone’s spiritual adviser, and to then lecture them about their faith and its alleged inadequacies. This was a prepared, considered remark by Hume, not some off-the-cuff aside.
A person’s faith is a private matter between that person and God, and is not a matter to be judged by some pompous TV anchor.
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Paul
January 3rd, 2010
4:46 pm
Hi LA
Oh, I just recognize that although some can read, and some can write, not all can think.
Paul
January 3rd, 2010
4:46 pm
getalife
You were first, I was second.
Our work here is done.
LA
January 3rd, 2010
4:46 pm
getalife, you really are grasping at straws.
You post one person as proof that ALL Christians kill people and blow up buildings yet you can’t provide evidence that he was a Christian or that he even attended a church.
Millicent
January 3rd, 2010
4:47 pm
Christian sponsored terrorism? The bible has a disclaimer on the last page. Have you ever read it? It says, “No humans were harmed in the saving of this planet.”
I think that says it all.
Isn’t it taking an extraordinary amount of time for the CSI unit in Detroit to examine and publish findings on that jihadist’s underwear? It’s like nobody wants to touch it or go near it. Those photos do look gross…..
Hi LA
January 3rd, 2010
4:47 pm
Lets all shed a tear for White Christians, the most oppressed group in the entire world. I was going to donate some money to help street children in India and starving families in Africa, but then I realized the harsh indignities caused by posts like these. If a Christian can’t tell a Buddhist their religion is insufficient and flawed, what hope is left in the world?!?! Soon well all be Kenyan Muslims. *sigh*
LA
January 3rd, 2010
4:48 pm
getalife, again, cite ONE Christian church that has aided in terrorism in any way.
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
4:48 pm
Paul,
Our work of preaching patriotism and tolerance has just begun.
godaddy
January 3rd, 2010
4:49 pm
Mainland china promotes the same lifeless, spineless way of life much like the liberals do.
mules for the state and nothing else.
LA
January 3rd, 2010
4:49 pm
getalife, I can name liberals who have killed over 20 million people.
Pol Pot
Mao
Stalin
Che
Castro
LA
January 3rd, 2010
4:50 pm
Liberals have killed more people in world history than any religious fanatic.
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
4:51 pm
LA,
The Christians helped the American bomber.
Kept him from getting caught for years.
Pro life is an ideology that most Christians take very seriously.
lets end your silly game.
godaddy
January 3rd, 2010
4:51 pm
funny how obama propaganda posters resemble Che’s?
LA
January 3rd, 2010
4:52 pm
getalife, I was under the impression that liberals hated stereotyping other people. If that is true then how can you stereotype all Christians to Eric Rudolph?
Millicent
January 3rd, 2010
4:52 pm
Nixon claimed to be a liberal. the word doesn’t have any meaning from generation to generation much less from country to country.
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January 3rd, 2010
4:52 pm
taxxie- You sound feverish. Perhaps you should rest and try this again later?
Hi LA
January 3rd, 2010
4:53 pm
Yeah LA! If only their was ONE historical example of Christian armies going across the world to attack other countries and cultures, while being cheered on by the Church. Thank god we’re arrogant enough to only consider our own perspective on what is or is not terrorism. Because otherwise there would be SO MANY examples, and the Crusades, Vietnam and the Iraq War would totes count.
Anyway, now that we’ve laid out the ground rules, no one will ever be able to cite even ONE Christian church that has aided in terrorism in any way. HAHAHA suckers. Nobama.
LA
January 3rd, 2010
4:53 pm
getalife writes:
The Christians helped the American bomber.
Show proof of that.
Pro life is an ideology that most Christians take very seriously.
Yes, because murdering babies is evil.
Funny how you disregard babies being beheaded yet defend abortionists.
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
4:54 pm
No LA.
Eric was a leader of the American taliban.
Now, he rots in prison where he belongs.
LA
January 3rd, 2010
4:55 pm
The Crusades resulted as a reaction of Muslim aggression against the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantines). The Muslims were running constant aggressive conquest campaigns on Christian lands as part of their imperialistic expansion. In 638 the Muslims conquered Jerusalem – the holy land where Jews and Christians would pilgrimage to. The Christian pilgrims to there were persecuted by the Muslims greatly. Over 60 Christian pilgrims were crucified in one short period by the Muslims. A Muslim governor of Caesarea in the 8th Century often seized pilgrims, one large group from Iconium was seized and they were all executed as spies (except for some that chose to convert to Islam instead of facing the sword). Muslims would ransack the churches if the pilgrims didn’t pay protection money. Christian iconography and crosses were banned by the Muslims so many churches were pillaged and defaced. Caliph Mansur (around the 8th Century) ordered that the hands of all Christians and Jews be stamped with a distinctive symbol which helped them be ‘humiliated’ and identified for paying of the Jizzya (tax for being Christian). Converts to Christianity were executed (such as the ex-Muslim monk in 789). Churches and monasteries conquered by the Muslims were plundered and monks and clergy were often murdered such as Saint Theodosius monastery in Bethlehem. By the start of the 9th Century most Christians fled from their hometown to Christian cities such as Constantinople that were still under the Byzantines. In 937 during Easter celebrations, specifically Palm Sunday, Muslims rampaged through Jerusalem against the Christians and destroyed their churches including Church of Calvary and the Church of the Resurrection. It wasn’t until the 960’s (up to 200 years later) than the Christians actually reacted to this violence and persecution. Cities taken by force such as Crete, Cilicia, Cyprus, Antioch and even parts of Syria were reconquered by the Christians.
In 974 the Muslims then launched an official offensive under Sunni Caliph Abbasid against the Byzantines. The campaign of Muslims against the Christians lasted for around 30 more years until a short ceasfire while the Muslims fought against themselves. Then at the beginning of the 11th Century the Muslims again started their offensive against the Christians under Abu ‘Ali al-Mansur al-Hakim and this was taken out on the average Christian. Churches were burnt, church property was seized. Over the first 10 years of the 11th Century over 30,000 churches were destroyed by the Muslim aggressors.
They even destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulcher – the traditional site marking were Christ was buried. The Caliph ordered the tomb be destroyed.
All the Christians and Jews of Jerusalem (and other Muslim territories) were forced to wear heavy crosses and wooden calves around their neck. It wasn’t until 1021 that this persecution decreased.
In 1056 hundreds of Christians were expelled from Jerusalem and European Christians were blocked from the pilgrimage to the city. On entering Jerusalem in 1077 3000 Jews and Christians were murdered by the Muslim invaders.
Brit Hume, taking a break from raising suicidal alcoholic children, counsels Tiger Woods on his faith Self Deprecate
January 3rd, 2010
4:56 pm
[...] between that person and God, and is not a matter to be judged by some pompous TV anchor.Link: The Right Rev. Brit Hume points the way to Tiger’s redemptionYou should probably go ahead and read these:Stephen Colbert makes the GOP Purity Test his [...]
LA
January 3rd, 2010
4:56 pm
getalife, show proof of this “American Taliban.”
Dusty
January 3rd, 2010
4:57 pm
I am sorry to see that Bookman has chosen religion as his “red meat” for the day. By “red meat”, I mean something to snarl and fight over and get lots of action on his blog.
Indeed, Bookman prefers that religious people not give any advice or have an opinion or even use free speech. IT”S PRIVATE. Uh huh..
Why should Brit Hume NOT speak his opinion? He was asked to come there BECAUSE he is a minister and a religious man. If a doctor is invited to a heath forum is he not expected to give medical opinions?
Perhaps Hume thinks adultery is wrong. That betraying marriage vows is wrong. That disgracing his family is bad behavior. If he were asked in general terms about Christian values, should Hume then hypocritically ignore the broken life of Tiger Woods when asked?
Christians do have moral values they try to maintain. They have found that the love of Christ has uplifted them and saved them from some disenchantments (such as those Tiger Woods has discovered). There is also the forgiveness that frees the believer from continuing debilitating habits and guilt. The Christian has unlimited help from the problems of life. Not always to avoid them but to manage to go on with inner help. Christian are subject to freedom of choice just like everybody else .
Thus it was that Rev. Hume might wish a better life for Tiger Woods. Was that bad advice? Hardly. Was it forced upon Tiger? No. .Can Bookman give HIS advice to Rev. Hume? Yes. So can Rev. Hume give his adivce.
Still a free country, Bookman. Still free.
Captain Hubris
January 3rd, 2010
4:58 pm
Bible/Koran. Two pees in a pod. Words written by humans trying to control the masses. Killing in the name of religious intolerance. Christians/Muslins drink from the same cool-aid!
Paul
January 3rd, 2010
4:59 pm
getalife
I suppose you are correct. How nice, though, that ‘patriotism’ and ‘tolerance’ aren’t mutually exclusive.
LA
[[getalife, show proof of this “American Taliban.”]]
oooh, oooooh, I know!!! I know!!!
Major Hassan?
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January 3rd, 2010
5:01 pm
The prospect of Obama trying to wheedle and cajole John Boehner the way Ronald Reagan wooed Tip O’Neill should brighten every conservative’s outlook.
Indeed it does.
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
5:02 pm
LA,
Every once in a while, a new leader of the American taliban shows up.
The last one shot a man in the head.
Captain Hubris
January 3rd, 2010
5:05 pm
Funny how southern Jesus looks like a bass player for Lynyrd Skynyrd, I guess he was born in Jacksonville…..
jconservative
January 3rd, 2010
5:06 pm
What Hume said was that he was not sure Buddhism offered the “forgiveness” that Hume feels Tiger needs. I am not sure it does either. But to my limited knowledge, Christianity is the only faith that teaches “forgiveness” as a human behavior.
I think what Tiger needs is a dose of self discipline. If you cannot control yourself you are a poor excuse for a man. Maybe Tiger should run for Congress, he will fit in nicely there.
@@
January 3rd, 2010
5:12 pm
Kinda out of character for Brit. I’ve never even heard him discuss his faith.
Tiger is a Buddhist? I didn’t know that.
My understanding of Buddhism is that there is no opportunity for individual redemption, so Brit’s right on that count. There’s an eight-fold path to Nirvana based on thinking, doing, living, etc. If every Buddhist follows those paths, there is redemption for humankind.
Tiger’s on his own as far as I’m concerned. He can do what he wants. The damage he’s done to others is irreparable. Should’a used the brain that houses logic instead of letting the other one run amok.
Kamchak
January 3rd, 2010
5:16 pm
Maybe Tiger should run for Congress, he will fit in nicely there.
The Governor of South Carolina immediately leaps to mind also.
Dusty
January 3rd, 2010
5:17 pm
getalife,
Does it ever occur to you that EVERYBODY that does something wrong is NOT a conservative, NOT a Christian, NOT a member of the Taliban or al Qaida. and not Dick Cheney?
Have you ever heard of a plain old criminal? If you ever call 911, please don’t tell them that one of the above group is after you. They might think you are crazeeee. (and they might be right).
VF
January 3rd, 2010
5:18 pm
Hey LA, the problem with “faith” is that it’s all you have, because none of it makes any sense at all. What if your so-called Bible-written by human beings, politicized by human beings, some parts put in by human beings, some parts pulled out by human beings, is wrong? You say it’s the Word of God, but how do you know it? Who translated it from the original language? How do you know the translation is right? How about the Book of James, where he says that faith is not enough? Or do you conveniently ignore that part, much like conservative Christians typically ignore “turn the other cheek”, “love your enemies” and anything else that would actually require them to act like Christ. Essentially, conservative Christians think it’s ok to not act like Christ, as long as “I believe”. Well, tell me, if you don’t act like Christ, how is it that you “believe” in him? Conservative Christians are hateful, angry, mean-spirited people. As simple as that. They are nothing like Christ, and Christ would be embarrassed by the typical conservative Christian (see, for example, the “Rev” Pat Robertson, saying to kill Chavez. Chavez is an idiot, yes, but Christ would never wish him dead) IN fact, if Christ did come back, conservative Christians, in their ignorance, would be lining up to re-crucify him. Please turn to Buddhism, LA, so you can overcome your anger. Can you imagine a conservative Christian acting like the Dalai Lama? No. Never. The Dalai Lama acts more like Christ, turning the other cheek, forgiving his enemies, than any conservative Christian ever did. Brit Hume is just another example of this hatred and ignorance.
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
5:18 pm
Never heard Tiger talk religion but do appreciate the quantity of his sins.
Millicent
January 3rd, 2010
5:19 pm
An excuse christians cant use on judgement day: “But Yahweh, no humans were harmed in the saving of this planet….”
@@
January 3rd, 2010
5:20 pm
The Governor of South Carolina immediately leaps to mind also.
Individual character flaws, not party affiliated. And don’t come at me with this “but they say one thing and do the opposite” unless you wanna acknowledge Obama’s shortcomings.
Paul
January 3rd, 2010
5:21 pm
getalife
Yeah, was over at some friends the other night and one of’em (lifelong golfer, as was her father and grandfather) said ‘that’s what happens to golfers when 18 holes aren’t enough.’
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
5:21 pm
“They might think you are crazeeee. (and they might be right).”
We must be tolerant of the crazee.
Paul
January 3rd, 2010
5:22 pm
@@
Obama has shortcomings?
Heretic!
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
5:23 pm
Paul,
Letterman loves this one.
samuel
January 3rd, 2010
5:23 pm
The problem with people of all relgions, but in this country, especially Southern Baptists, is that they think of morality only in terms of sexual behavior. There are worse forms of immorality, including the mass execution of systematic discrimination of one group against another. That could be an entire nation of people (the Germans) murdrering 6 million Jewish people, or white Southern Baptists passing laws to discriminate against black people (don’t forget the chucrchgoing white folks in their Sunday finest going to watch a lynching, and posing for pictures with the corpse while they’re at it). Ultimately, morality is about how you treat people, especially those different from you.
AmVet
January 3rd, 2010
5:24 pm
Hume is a bitter, old, twisted, white twit in a post neo-conned hell, blathering and blubbering for the benefit of other bitter, old, twisted, white twits absolutely hating their post neo-conned hell.
But in the poantheon of Reich-wing talking heads he’s not even in the top 20!
Or at least I suppose, one would have to ask these faux conservatives here.
At any rate, who really cares?
The rest of us in this nation are laughing and voting out at the modern day McCarthyites and the Party of Failure…
Congrats Falcons on winning those last three games. The old Falcons would have packed it in three weeks ago.
And the Cubs struggled mightily but prevailed! (Well, if beating the perennial doormat and lowliest team in the NFL is prevailing…)
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
5:26 pm
“Ultimately, morality is about how you treat people, especially those different from you.”
Tolerance, brothers and sisters.
Can I get some tolerance?
Kamchak
January 3rd, 2010
5:27 pm
Individual character flaws, not party affiliated.
Didn’t say it was. I was merely pointing out that the political machine in S.C. is forgiving of adulterers.
Paul
January 3rd, 2010
5:29 pm
getalife 5:23
It’s a gift for those guys.
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
5:29 pm
Hiking the Appalachian trail is a flaw of man.
Steve Jacoby
January 3rd, 2010
5:30 pm
The following are the vows that many Buddhists take. As you can see, as pertaining to personal behavior, there is not much different than what is found in the Bible. Perhaps the biggest difference is the view that adhering to these vows brings about a happy life, now and in the afterlife, whereas it is the violation of these vows that leads to unhappiness and suffering. Ultimately, their practice leads to nirvana-which is not unlike the Christian ‘heaven.”
Reverence For Life
Aware of the suffering caused by the destruction of life, I am committed to cultivating the insight of interbeing and compassion and learning ways to protect the lives of people, animals, plants, and minerals. I am determined not to kill, not to let others kill, and not to support any act of killing in the world, in my thinking, or in my way of life. Seeing that harmful actions arise from anger, fear, greed, and intolerance, which in turn come from dualistic and discriminative thinking, I will cultivate openness, non-discrimination, and non-attachment to views in order to transform violence, fanaticism, and dogmatism in myself and in the world.
True Happiness
Aware of the suffering caused by exploitation, social injustice, stealing, and oppression, I am committed to practicing generosity in my thinking, speaking, and acting. I am determined not to steal and not to possess anything that should belong to others; and I will share my time, energy, and material resources with those who are in need. I will practice looking deeply to see that the happiness and suffering of others are not separate from my own happiness and suffering; that true happiness is not possible without understanding and compassion; and that running after wealth, fame, power and sensual pleasures can bring much suffering and despair. I am aware that happiness depends on my mental attitude and not on external conditions, and that I can live happily in the present moment simply by remembering that I already have more than enough conditions to be happy. I am committed to practicing Right Livelihood so that I can help reduce the suffering of living beings on Earth and reverse the process of global warming.
True Love
Aware of the suffering caused by sexual misconduct, I am committed to cultivating responsibility and learning ways to protect the safety and integrity of individuals, couples, families, and society. Knowing that sexual desire is not love, and that sexual activity motivated by craving always harms myself as well as others, I am determined not to engage in sexual relations without true love and a deep, long-term commitment made known to my family and friends. I will do everything in my power to protect children from sexual abuse and to prevent couples and families from being broken by sexual misconduct. Seeing that body and mind are one, I am committed to learning appropriate ways to take care of my sexual energy and cultivating loving kindness, compassion, joy and inclusiveness – which are the four basic elements of true love – for my greater happiness and the greater happiness of others. Practicing true love, we know that we will continue beautifully into the future.
Loving Speech and Deep Listening
Aware of the suffering caused by unmindful speech and the inability to listen to others, I am committed to cultivating loving speech and compassionate listening in order to relieve suffering and to promote reconciliation and peace in myself and among other people, ethnic and religious groups, and nations. Knowing that words can create happiness or suffering, I am committed to speaking truthfully using words that inspire confidence, joy, and hope. When anger is manifesting in me, I am determined not to speak. I will practice mindful breathing and walking in order to recognize and to look deeply into my anger. I know that the roots of anger can be found in my wrong perceptions and lack of understanding of the suffering in myself and in the other person. I will speak and listen in a way that can help myself and the other person to transform suffering and see the way out of difficult situations. I am determined not to spread news that I do not know to be certain and not to utter words that can cause division or discord. I will practice Right Diligence to nourish my capacity for understanding, love, joy, and inclusiveness, and gradually transform anger, violence, and fear that lie deep in my consciousness.
Nourishment and Healing
Aware of the suffering caused by unmindful consumption, I am committed to cultivating good health, both physical and mental, for myself, my family, and my society by practicing mindful eating, drinking, and consuming. I will practice looking deeply into how I consume the Four Kinds of Nutriments, namely edible foods, sense impressions, volition, and consciousness. I am determined not to gamble, or to use alcohol, drugs, or any other products which contain toxins, such as certain websites, electronic games, TV programs, films, magazines, books, and conversations. I will practice coming back to the present moment to be in touch with the refreshing, healing and nourishing elements in me and around me, not letting regrets and sorrow drag me back into the past nor letting anxieties, fear, or craving pull me out of the present moment. I am determined not to try to cover up loneliness, anxiety, or other suffering by losing myself in consumption. I will contemplate interbeing and consume in a way that preserves peace, joy, and well-being in my body and consciousness, and in the collective body and consciousness of my family, my society and the Earth.
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
5:30 pm
Paul,
Yeah but a distraction from Letterman’s sins.
Herschel Walker
January 3rd, 2010
5:32 pm
Jesus obviously suffered from multiple personality disorder, hence the confusion betwixt World religions, he was truly a only child nobody else could handle the guilt trip….
Dusty
January 3rd, 2010
5:36 pm
AmVet,
Cheer up ,bud. You, too, can be a “bitter, old. twisted twit”. You’ve had a lot of practice.
Taxpayer
January 3rd, 2010
5:38 pm
taxxie- You sound feverish. Perhaps you should rest and try this again later?
All I see is a failure on your part to deliver, Andy, again. A recurring theme, no doubt.
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January 3rd, 2010
4:26 pm
taxxie- I don’t think we can entirely “win” against liberalism. That would be like defeating decay or rot. It’s too pervasive. The best that we can hope for is to score gigantic points on your ass, like NIF did, and beat you into remission.
Provide your evidence, Andy. I know you to be incapable so I don’t kinow why I ask. Then again… Nah… .
don
January 3rd, 2010
5:39 pm
So if only Tiger would have been a Christian all these years, God would have blessed him and he could have become a good golfer. Wow, look what Tiger missed by being in that budda thing. poor guy. All those women throwing themselves at him, 1 billion dollars, the greatest athlete of our generation. Poor guy, he has marriage problems and cheats on his wife. If only he would have been a Christian like Jimmy Swagger, Jim Baker, Ted hagard, Larry craig, lmao. never mind.
fromnowtozen.com
Taxpayer
January 3rd, 2010
5:39 pm
Hiking the Appalachian trail is a flaw of man
Man! That’s a stretch.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
January 3rd, 2010
5:41 pm
So who else thinks that back to back winning seasons is a rather lame way to find something to be happy about?
@@
January 3rd, 2010
5:42 pm
The majority of voters in S.C. don’t much care for Sanford, it’s just that they care for the Lt. Governor even less.
I’m guessing the legislators were aware of public opinion polls when they nixed Sanford’s impeachment.
The people’s governor, the people’s state, the people’s decision.
Michael W.
January 3rd, 2010
5:43 pm
It amazes me how people cannot comment to each other on this blog without taking swipes at each other like a bunch of non-denominational pagans.
Beezlebud
January 3rd, 2010
5:45 pm
If Saten drives out Lucifer, they will be dived against each other’s self interest-unite Christains/Muslims in your hate for the rest of us, your combined ignorance/hate will certainly triumph against love/humanity…
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January 3rd, 2010
5:45 pm
Ok, if you don’t mind being humiliated again, who am I to argue?
And yes, I’m sure your teeth are just as nasty as your personality.
At the point it was ova, taxxie, you had been thoroughly outwitted and totally shamed.
I think you enjoy being abused, sicko!
Kamchak
January 3rd, 2010
5:48 pm
The people’s governor, the people’s state, the people’s decision.
Yep. Thanx for making my point for me.
Johnny Beckon-~
January 3rd, 2010
5:50 pm
Doesn’t Bigfoot hike on the Appalachian Trail?
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
5:50 pm
So, to end a debate all you have to do is insult the opposition.
“It amazes me how people cannot comment to each other on this blog without taking swipes at each other like a bunch of non-denominational pagans.”
Not a very tolerant or patriotic group but we are working on that this year.
josef nix
January 3rd, 2010
5:51 pm
After a time out and about in the unpleasant cold, I check back in to find we’re all going the h*ll, which with my luck, won’t be a lake of fire and brimstone, but ice floes.
Unless I am mistaken, and I’m sure there will be those here who’d let me know, Jay was making the point that a television show such as the one Brit Hume was on is not the proper place and time to be preaching salvation in theological terms or arguing the merits of one brand over another, That, of course, gets lost in the fireworks sure to erupt with the very mention of “Christian.”
What I find most entertaining and most revealing, though, from the many of the posters who are excoriating the Christians (or the Muslims, who now have a seat at this table of lambaste) is that the language and tone of their secular-political rhetoric would rival anything the “crusaders-jihadists” could ever come up with, just as intolerant, just as didactic, just as dogmatic and, just my opinion, just as dangerous.
Jenifer
January 3rd, 2010
5:51 pm
Hume is just another buffoon helping himself to a cafeteria of “lifestyle” choices that he calls “Christian” because it sounds righteous on the air.
The con-artist con-servative definition of “christian” is nothing more than moral justification for fleecing the public, lying at will, and doing anything that furthers their own self-interests – and those interests generally have little to do with any faith other than their unending belief that God is the face that is reflected in the mirror when they are trimming their nosehairs.
RW-(the original)
January 3rd, 2010
5:51 pm
So who else thinks that back to back winning seasons is a rather lame way to find something to be happy about?
Probably everybody but at least we don’t get to hear that they’ve never done it again.
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I can’t find any transcript and the only panel video at the Fox site is to the part they did after the broadcast. This morning’s show repeats at 6 on FNC so I’ll try to watch and let y’all know what lead to these remarks Jay B has clipped for us.
I inform ;-~] U leak :-~o
January 3rd, 2010
5:53 pm
The Brit Hume story has legs. The whole christian right revival is gaining traction and the Brit Hume remark is a great litmus test to see how it plays.
Taxpayer
January 3rd, 2010
5:53 pm
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
January 3rd, 2010
5:45 pm
Ok, if you don’t mind being humiliated again, who am I to argue?
And yes, I’m sure your teeth are just as nasty as your personality.
At the point it was ova, taxxie, you had been thoroughly outwitted and totally shamed.
I think you enjoy being abused, sicko!
First, Andy, please post the complete post. Otherwise, it just looks like something that you made up. Then, we can go from there regarding your claims thus far. That is, if you really think yourself capable. I have not seen any proof. Come on, Andy. Sling your best. Or was that it. That was it, wasn’t it.
Peet
January 3rd, 2010
5:53 pm
There are very strict rules about sexual conduct in the Buddhist faith. Tiger betrayed those rules. It’s not whether he’s calling himself one religion or another, it’s whether he’s practicing the faith he already has. If he was really leading a Buddhist life, he NEVER would have cheated on his spouse. Surprise: hypocrites come in all faiths…
Dusty
January 3rd, 2010
5:55 pm
Don,
You think Tiger is so happy that he drops out of golf for something like 6 months.? HIs wife is considering divorce? His sponsors are dropping him? His reputation as “family man” is shot? The Enquirer thinks he is the “greatest” since Bill Clinton?
That’s happiness? Well, I guess it all depends on what you call happiness. But I guess you are right. A lot of people think that money and success are all that matters.
Yeah, I know. Try it and I’d like it, too.. Maybe. But I don’t think so. Couldn’t shoot my family in the foot just for fun and games..
Atheist
January 3rd, 2010
5:57 pm
In the end the love you make is equal to the love you take….
Taxpayer
January 3rd, 2010
5:58 pm
In the end the love you make is equal to the love you take….
That sounds so… Lennon-ish.
I talk ;-~] U leak :-~o
January 3rd, 2010
5:59 pm
If the Democrats lose both houses in November, it will be because of Tiger Woods. He may have been the straw that broke the camel’s back as far as the flight from religion goes. People may be getting fed up with loose sexual morays. Any candidate claiming to be born again may win, just like how Bush got into office.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
January 3rd, 2010
6:00 pm
Taxxie, look, really. liberals get humiliated and ostracized every day. You are not the first, hahaha. It’s going to happen to you again, alot.
Don’t get hysterical, geez.
josef nix
January 3rd, 2010
6:00 pm
PETE
“Surprise: hypocrites come in all faiths”
Agreed–be those ‘faiths’ theological or secular…
I talk ;~] U leak :~o
January 3rd, 2010
6:00 pm
In the end, love is a battlefield.
Taxpayer
January 3rd, 2010
6:01 pm
There are very strict rules about sexual conduct in the Buddhist faith. Tiger betrayed those rules. It’s not whether he’s calling himself one religion or another, it’s whether he’s practicing the faith he already has. If he was really leading a Buddhist life, he NEVER would have cheated on his spouse. Surprise: hypocrites come in all faiths…
So, maybe, what Brit was saying is that if Tiger were a Christian, he could have his fun with as many women or whatever he wanted and all could be forgiven. Is that it.
Kamchak
January 3rd, 2010
6:08 pm
Taxpayer
All that’s needed for a “win” here, is the proclamation by nowhere man that he has b!tch slapped someone.
I scoop ;~] U leak :~o
January 3rd, 2010
6:09 pm
Love, say scientists, could just be a random chemical reaction in your brain triggered by an old polio vaccine. If there happens to be a woman (or a blow-up doll) around when it goes off, then you’re hooked. That’s why the smart money always keeps Mardi Gras Beads close by.
Taxpayer
January 3rd, 2010
6:09 pm
Taxxie, look, really. liberals get humiliated and ostracized every day. You are not the first, hahaha. It’s going to happen to you again, alot
So, the bottom line is that you have, again, failed to deliver on your claim. I understand. Really.
kayaker 71
January 3rd, 2010
6:10 pm
There are plenty of us who haven’t graced the inside of a church in a very long time that think that Mr. Woods needs to get a grip on his life. It is none of my business how many ladies that Tiger beds down….. it is none of Mr. Hume’s business as well. How one wishes to live their life is their own business. I have an opinion about Woods but it has little to do with his religious obligations. It has a lot to do with personal responsibility and loyalty to a family and to his children. When you enter a marriage vow, it is usually sealed with some sort of Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddist pronouncement to wish the bond long and happy success. I would wonder why you would enter such a bond under any other pretext. But again, that’s none of my affair.
However, Mr Hume has just as much right to criticize Wood’s behavior and anyone else, if he choses to do so. You might not agree with him but Woods could obviously use some help. His golf skills and his bank account has seemingly bought him what he wants in life. Woods is obviously a very insecure, vulnerable person based on his behavior and it’s consequences. I think right now that if he is any kind of a responsible person, he is most disappointed with the choices that he has made.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
January 3rd, 2010
6:11 pm
Gee, I wonder if Kathleen “oogedy boogedy” Parker will make it back into the Urinal this week-
The cool detachment that was so attractive when political opponents were trying to rile Obama is suddenly becoming annoying. Preternaturally unflappable, his demeanor in these circumstances borders on inappropriate. What does it take to get a rise out of Barack Obama? Not that we need bombast and flared nostrils. Calm in the face of potential disaster is laudable, but it’s a fine line between executive tranquility and passive nonchalance.
Getting a little off message, isn’t she?
Taxpayer
January 3rd, 2010
6:12 pm
In the end, love is a battlefield
Benetar?
Linda
January 3rd, 2010
6:12 pm
In Mark 16:16, Jesus said, “…he who does not believe will be condemned.” Several religions, including Buddhism, don’t believe in Christ.
Jesus repeatedly instructed Christians, specifically in Mark 16:15, “…Go into all the world and preach the gospel…” Christians have a responsibility to spread the Word. We need not be ministers or missionaries. Evangelism can be achieved by merely showing compassion, forgiving or praying for someone in need.
I will be blasted for this comment on this blog. In advance, let me say that it’s much more realistic to believe that a higher power created the universe than to believe that politicians can control the weather & the climate.
May God bless you all.
Taxpayer
January 3rd, 2010
6:15 pm
All that’s needed for a “win” here, is the proclamation by nowhere man that he has b!tch slapped someone.
There seem to be several around here that like to “proclaim” their “wins”. Well, if not for proclamations, what would they have.
getalife
January 3rd, 2010
6:18 pm
Linda,
Did Jesus preach tolerance towards others?
Will you spread that message too?
How about the scripture for the sick and poor?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
January 3rd, 2010
6:20 pm
SANA, Yemen — The United States and Britain shut their embassies in the Yemen capital on Sunday, with the Americans citing unspecified but “ongoing threats by Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula,” the regional branch responsible for the failed Christmas Day effort to blow up a U.S. airliner headed to Detroit.
And here I thought the world wuz weally, weally gunna wuv us because of our wittle world girlie.
What, did you misjudge them, “geniuses?”
I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o
January 3rd, 2010
6:20 pm
The problem with putting religion and patriotism together is that your politicians always go to the bully pulpit.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
January 3rd, 2010
6:22 pm
Are you still sobbing about this taxxie?
Come now, young lady, let’s gather ourselves, k?
TGT
January 3rd, 2010
6:22 pm
“A person’s faith is a private matter between that person and God…”
A favorite line by liberals, but nothing close to what God or His Son said. Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
He also said, “Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do.”
And of course, “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.”
Brit did not sound as if he was lecturing, nor did he sound arrogant or pompous. His words sounded more like an invitation than anything else. In fact, it sounded something like Jesus would have said.
I scoop ;~] Uleak :~o
January 3rd, 2010
6:24 pm
The New Testament was fiddled with over the years so we can’t be sure what Christ said. Stick to the beatitudes and the parables, and you’re probably okay. They think the Lords Prayer was written in the third century by a poetic genius. Who knows.
In fact, even the beatitudes, with phrases like, “Inherit the Earth” was not the way christ phrased it, but rather a reworking of the elaborate tedious phrases that christ used. This is a fact and documented. But the gist of what christ said could be fairly melted down into the phrases we know today.
Fact, Jack.
Jenifer
January 3rd, 2010
6:24 pm
Hume probably wants to sign Tiger up for a room with the “C Street family”.
@@
January 3rd, 2010
6:26 pm
Kamchak:
The voters in S.C. obviously haven’t forgiven Sanford’s adultery. They just don’t want Bauer (sp?) to take his place. The legislators were following their lead. You have no way of knowing how they (the legislators) feel about the adultery part.
Your point is, therefore, left hanging. In all honesty I had no idea why you brought Sanford up other than to appoint the fickle finger at a Republican.
Tiger’s life, like Sanford’s is not relevant to mine.
josef nix
January 3rd, 2010
6:26 pm
I’ve pretty much tried to stay out of the Tiger Woods combat zone, beyond repeating a few of the better jokes, for two reasons: one, if I did have strong critical opinions, I’d be sleeping on the couch since the Unmentionable is a golfer and no more need be said there and, two I don’t see where pulling him on the morality carpet has any relevance given his pecadillos are as common as yard dirt.
To contend that he’s a role model and therefore “shouldn’t have let down all the little kiddies…” To the best of my recollection, Mr. Woods at no time ever set himself up as some squeaky clean paragon of moral virtue. Paragon of golf, yes, and he’s pretty much lived up to that. So what if he came home late and the missus took after him with a club…good for her, obviously she had issues and was ready to straighten things out. Sounds an awful lot like life around this house or anybody else’s.
Instead of enjoying the neighbors’ brawl, though, we set out to “take him down,” a case study in Schadenfreude which has become a national passtime.
kayaker 71
January 3rd, 2010
6:26 pm
If we judge Mr. Hume for having an opinion, we must judge the host of people on this blog who daily spew out vindictive rhetoric which far outweighs anything that Mr. Hume said in his interview. Bookman just facilitates the dogfight. If opinion is the enemy, we are all in for a pretty difficult 2010.
Kamchak
January 3rd, 2010
6:26 pm
Well, if not for proclamations, what would they have.
A bar so low that neutrinos couldn’t pass under it.
Jenifer
January 3rd, 2010
6:27 pm
Now we know the depths of Hume’s Christianity: Turn to Jesus to save your endorsement deals.
Kamchak
January 3rd, 2010
6:28 pm
In all honesty I had no idea why you brought Sanford up other than to appoint the fickle finger at a Republican.
I didn’t play the party card, you did.
Sharia Law
January 3rd, 2010
6:35 pm
Come here Brit, you hunk o’ hunk o’ burnin’ love.
Jenifer
January 3rd, 2010
6:39 pm
Poor Hume.
Obama Wins Ohio – Faux News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB6Oq9a3z-I
kayaker 71
January 3rd, 2010
6:45 pm
Jenifer,
I watched the video you provided and it appears that Mr. Hume and Mr. Rove were providing good journalistic commentary on election night. This is not a poor Hume moment.
@@
January 3rd, 2010
6:45 pm
Mark Sanford is running for a seat in congress? That’s news to me.
Eliot Spitzer is considering a run for Comptroller.
Why not bring up his name, Kamchak?
We both know why.
R.P.
January 3rd, 2010
6:46 pm
A Senior News Analyst on a major Sunday News Program suggesting that a professional athlete should change religions in order to make a full recovery is unprecedented. On the other hand, if he becomes a Christian, Tiger could check into C Street, a fine place for Christian adulterers