The Right Rev. Brit Hume points the way to Tiger’s redemption

Kinda makes you wonder why God allowed that darned Buddhist to win so many golf tournaments over good Christian men. Then again, He also allowed a Muslim to be elected president of HIS country, the United States of Christian America.

But seriously, I do not understand and can’t begin to comprehend the arrogance it takes to publicly anoint yourself someone’s spiritual adviser, and to then lecture them about their faith and its alleged inadequacies. This was a prepared, considered remark by Hume, not some off-the-cuff aside.

A person’s faith is a private matter between that person and God, and is not a matter to be judged by some pompous TV anchor.

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LA

January 3rd, 2010
3:16 pm

“A person’s faith is a private matter between that person and God, and is not a matter to be judged by some pompous TV anchor.”

Please tell that to Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Dan Rather, Katie Couric, Rachel Maddow, Jon Stewart and every other liberal “journalist.”

LA

January 3rd, 2010
3:17 pm

Jay, you might also tell that to Cynthia Tucker who consistently rails and howls on people for their faith.

Nothing Is Free

January 3rd, 2010
3:20 pm

Jay

**A person’s faith is a private matter between that person and God.**

Man you need to tell that to most of your liberal friends. Maybe once your ilk stops attacking anyone who actually has a religious conviction, your attacking Brit Hume would have some credibility.

Jay

January 3rd, 2010
3:21 pm

Really, LA?

So Tucker and all those other people lecture individuals that their faith is the wrong faith?

Please document these instances. Since they are apparently so widespread, it should be quite easy to do so.

Nothing Is Free

January 3rd, 2010
3:22 pm

LA

I don’t think we have agreed on anything up to now. Is this just so completely obvious to anyone who isn’t completely indoctrinated?

Nothing Is Free

January 3rd, 2010
3:24 pm

Jay

Document members of the mainstream media going after Christians? You really need documentation of that?

Now that is rich.

Hi LA

January 3rd, 2010
3:29 pm

Hi LA,

I’m sure your right, but can you point me to all the times those journalists or entertainers looked into the camera and told someone to renounce their religion? I’m sure you’re right that they have, you seem to really be on top of this.

Obviously we both share a burning hatred of liberals, and a proclivity towards making nonsensical internet comments overflowing with bitter rage and bile (IHATE YOYOBAMA TOO!!), but seriously, you’re right, the only people who should be judging the religion of public figures are CONSERVATIVE talk show hosts, and maybe people in government once the republicans are in power again. Oh well, back to building my Obama/Rapture bunker. Laterz!

Jay

January 3rd, 2010
3:31 pm

Then go ahead and find it, Free.

Document cases in which Tucker and others condemned Christianity as an inadequate faith.

Because that’s an important distinction. Criticizing people for how they inject their faith into public debate is quite a different thing than condemning and insulting the faith itself.

So go ahead. We’ll wait.

Kamchak

January 3rd, 2010
3:35 pm

But seriously, I do not understand and can’t begin to comprehend the arrogance it takes to publicly anoint yourself someone’s spiritual adviser, and to then lecture them about their faith and its alleged inadequacies.

Geez Jay, talk-radio has been doing this for thirty years. It’s a learned arrogance.

stands for decibels

January 3rd, 2010
3:36 pm

I don’t really have to watch the video to know that Brit winds up making a horse’s ass of himself, do I?

Paul

January 3rd, 2010
3:37 pm

Jay

[[can’t begin to comprehend the arrogance it takes to publicly anoint yourself someone’s spiritual adviser]]

Wasn’t Mr. Hume responding to a question, as opposed to offering this unasked?

[[A person’s faith is a private matter between that person and God, and is not a matter to be judged by some pompous TV anchor.]]

Your piece reminds me of a conversation I had with one of my sons part way through his university studies after I’d made a less than flattering comment about some country’s heritage.

Son (sarcastically) “oh no, Dad, you can’t say one civilization is any better than any other.”

Me: “What if the Nazis had won WWII and finished their European extermination and turned Africa into a giant crematorium?”

Son: “Didn’t last long enough so it wasn’t a civilization.”

Me: “What if it had? What about the Roman civilization, built upon slavery and incalculable cruelty?”

Son: “Look, Dad, I tried all those arguments and found it was better to keep quiet, take the tests and tell the professor what he wanted to hear and walk away with a grade.”

It appears Mr. Hume has committed the great sin of making a moral judgment, of saying one thing is better than another. But in this case Mr. Hume did not say Christianity was better than Buddhism, he merely pointed out the belief system of one was more appropriate in one circumstance than the belief system of another religion.

RW-(the original)

January 3rd, 2010
3:38 pm

Is there a transcript around that provides some context here? It sure doesn’t sound to me like a prepared text and it seems to be in response to some kind of question about predictions.

Taxpayer

January 3rd, 2010
3:39 pm

Dang, Jay! Are you sure Brit is not The Corporal incognito. Or vice versa.

John Hume

January 3rd, 2010
3:43 pm

Brit Hume to Tiger Woods: If you only knew the power of the dark side!

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
3:44 pm

Did Jay just call out the private?

Hume was preaching to the choir.

Didn’t he retire?

BrettL

January 3rd, 2010
3:44 pm

Christianity does provide a wonderful path to redemption and forgiveness. Something that Mr. Woods certainly needs. This is precisely the most important issue and I appreciate Mr. Hume caring more about Tiger’s life and spirit than his golf game. For those of you who think faith is a waste of time, this comment will never make sense, but then again perhaps you aren’t looking to put your life back together after your family has been blown apart by your sin and selfishness.

Jay

January 3rd, 2010
3:46 pm

RW, as part of the pre-show briefing, they tell you in general terms what questions will be covered. In this instance, judging from Kristol’s response, they had been told to offer a prediction for the year ahead.

Nothing Is Free

January 3rd, 2010
3:47 pm

Jay

LOL!!

So only if I can find exact quotes from the people you listed will I be justified in saying that the mainstream media (and Hollywood) has been attacking Christianity. That’s hysterical.

You can stop waiting.

I’m not going to defend Hume’s opinion. And that’s what it was. It wasn’t woven in the story like this:

**Christians have been called “the American Taliban, with one reporter for a Florida newspaper, Bob Norman referring to “evangelical loonies,” and “way-out-there Christian wackos.” In the St. Petersburg Times columnist Robyn E. Blummer wrote that the “religious right” is trying in “Taliban-like ways to inject religion into public schools and the operations of government.**

or this:

the NPR reporter said: “Two of the anthrax letters were sent to Senator Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy, both Democrats. One group who had a gripe with Daschle and Leahy is the Traditional Values Coalition, which before the attacks had issued a press release criticizing the senators for trying to remove the phrase ‘so help me God’ from the oath.”

Kestenbaum then went on to say that TVC had not been contacted by the FBI without bothering to explain why they would have, clearly implying that they might be suspects in the attacks. It took NPR a full year to apologize for that slanderous report.

“No one told our reporter that the Traditional Values Coalition was a suspect in the anthrax mailing,” their apology stated, adding that “no facts were available then or since to suggest that the group has any role in the anthrax mailing.”

or this:

Wrote the Boston Globe’s columnist James Carroll: “Even a faithful repetition of the Gospel stories of the death of Jesus can do damage exactly because those sacred texts themselves carry the virus of Jew hatred.”

It’s an opinion. It isn’t part of a story presented as fact.

You are supposed to be a member of the Fourth Estate, Jay. Do you actually have a degree in Journalism? Do you honestly not know the difference between an opinion stated at a round table discussion and injecting dishonesty in the facts of a story?

Or maybe you just want everyone to say what you want them to say when they are giving their opinion. Considering who you work for, I would guess that this is the case.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
3:48 pm

February 18, 2008|By Cynthia Tucker

But don’t let the packaging fool you. Huckabee’s theocratic tendencies are dangerous, and he shouldn’t be on any ticket, even as vice president.

“I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution,” Huckabee said. “But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that’s what we need to do – to amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than try to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.”

The last thing we need is another president or vice president who believes he can interpret God’s standards.

He is even scarier than Vice President Dick Cheney.

AND TO TOP THAT OFF, MSSSSSSS. TUCKER’S FAV PRES EVER IS A FAKE ONE ON TV.

My favorite president ever, Josiah Bartlett of the television show “The West Wing,” expressed his support for his well-qualified vice president – despite their rocky relationship – with the simple phrase: “Because I could die.” Any presidential candidate ought to carefully consider that fundamental truth.

As for Huckabee, he’d make a fine addition to the roster of high-profile theocrats on the political scene – James Dobson, Gary Bauer and Pat Robertson, to name a few. At least Huckabee can play Lynyrd Skynyrd.

RW-(the original)

January 3rd, 2010
3:49 pm

Jay B,

I just don’t think this rises to the outrageous outrage level you’ve tried to make it into, but it’s nice to get out of that thread below. Brit also isn’t an anchor anymore.

Paul

January 3rd, 2010
3:49 pm

Hmmmm. I wonder if Reverend Jeremiah Wright ever told his congregation that the needed to turn to the Christian faith. That other things they worshipped were wrong and would not lead to redemption.

I think we have a president who listened to those messages. Isn’t it time someone quizzed him and asked him if his spiritual advisor ever advised him along those lines? Then ask the Pres if he accepted the arrogant message from someone who thought he knew better than Obama did how to have a fulfilling life?

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
3:50 pm

Um, I thought I invented “American taliban”.

Did the private’s head just explode?

AF

January 3rd, 2010
3:53 pm

Can anyone imagine a newsman like Walter Cronkite doing something like this?

I am so old I even think it is bad manners.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
3:53 pm

Bookman, care to discuss how your colleague is a blatant racist?

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Put 100 of these people in a room. Strap them into gurneys. Inject them with sodium pentathol. How many of them would say “I don’t like the idea of having a black president”? What percentage?

CYNTHIA TUCKER: Oh, I’m just guessing. This is just off the cuff. I think 45 to 65% of the people who appear at these groups are people who will never be comfortable with the idea of a black president.

Jay

January 3rd, 2010
3:55 pm

Paul, I think such comments would be entirely correct, appropriate and necessary from a religious leader to his congregation.

This was not that setting; Hume was not that speaker.

Nothing Is Free

January 3rd, 2010
3:56 pm

Getaclue

**Um, I thought I invented “American taliban”.**

“I thought”

See? That’s where things started going wrong.

Taxpayer

January 3rd, 2010
3:56 pm

That NIF from above sounded more like mike than The Corporal.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
3:56 pm

Is Tucker unfamiliar with such Bible passages? She herself provides us with an answer in one of her recent columns:

For many religious conservatives, the issue is simple enough: Leviticus condemns homosexuality as an “abomination.” But the guiding legal document of a pluralistic nation has no business recognizing one religious view over any other. Some denominations — including my own, the United Church of Christ — have no prohibition against same-sex marriages. (A literal reading of the Bible, by the way, poses many a conundrum. Leviticus also orders capital punishment for homosexuals and adulterers.)

That clears it up a little. Tucker, who implies she’s a Christian, appears not to know that the New Testament also condemns homosexuality. For her edification, she should also read Romans 1:18-31, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy 1: 10; and 2 Timothy 3:3. I’d also recommend Galatians, where the Apostle Paul clears up confusion about the Mosaic law and grace through Jesus Christ:

What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one. Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not!

For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. Galatians 3:19-25

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January 3rd, 2010
3:57 pm

I point to this blog topic as proof that left wingers hate on Christians as standard operating procedure.

~~~~~

2:57 left and maybe the jinx will lay off me, Cutler, no interceptions!

It CAN be done!

LA

January 3rd, 2010
3:58 pm

Hey Jay, at least conservative commentators don’t make up fake documents to sink a presidency.

Dan Rather much, Jay?

Nothing Is Free

January 3rd, 2010
3:58 pm

Jay

**I think such comments would be entirely correct, appropriate and necessary from a religious leader to his congregation.**

LOL!!

So now only ministers in front of congregations can give opinions about religion.

is there any part of anyone’s life that liberals do not want to control?

LA

January 3rd, 2010
3:59 pm

Jay, what about AmVet calling people “talibaptists?”

Oh wait, AmVet is not a professional anything.

TennVol

January 3rd, 2010
3:59 pm

Free and LA – You seem to be avoiding the core issue. In my hearing, Hume said one faith was inferior to another and that his advice for Tiger Woods was to change to the superior faith. No one asked Mike Huckabee to change or implied that his faith was worse than another. Just that basing the governance of the country on the Word of God (as one specific faith sees it) seems horribly inapporpriate and somewhat conflicting with the separation of Church and State that the United States was founded on.

So I think Jay’s question remains unanswered (and will likely stay that way) — Can you document cases in which Tucker and others condemned Christianity as an inadequate faith?

If not, you should repudiate your own comments

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:01 pm

“At least Huckabee can play Lynyrd Skynyrd.”

Classic.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:02 pm

TennVol, no I answered his question just fine.

Funny how two new bloggers have suddenly appeared in Jay’s defense. Funny indeed.

Kamchak

January 3rd, 2010
4:02 pm

Hmmmm. I wonder if Reverend Jeremiah Wright ever told his congregation that the needed to turn to the Christian faith. That other things they worshipped were wrong and would not lead to redemption.

I think we have a president who listened to those messages.

But, but, but…Obama is a Muslim–he studied at a madrassa.

…If anything, I mean — I mean, they kept using it as a selling point that Obama would throw Islamic radicals on their hind legs when they look up and they see someone who studies with [sic: studied at] madrassas and they see the “Great Satan” has a president with a brown face and the world is going to love us. [...]

And like I say, Obama can be doing more than Bush. He is specially situated that way, as having gone to madrassas as a child, not being a white male

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January 3rd, 2010
4:02 pm

NIF can’t be mike, not after scoring one on taxxie’s teeth last night.

That was brutal.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:04 pm

TennVol, Tucker rails on white conservatives on an almost weekly basis. She ignores racists like Jesse, Al, Revvvvvvvvvv Joseph Lowry and Jeremiah Wright but she wastes no time in pointing out any white person who happens to be conservative.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:06 pm

AJC’s Cynthia Tucker Embraces Factually Inaccurate Newspaper Content

By Mithridate Ombud (Bio | Archive)
August 6, 2007

Editorial page editor Cynthia Tucker of the Atlanta Journal Constitution was asked why letters that are “factually inaccurate” are allowed into the newspaper. I had long assumed it was the same reason stories that are factually inaccurate are used in the newspaper, but not-so says Tucker: “We live in such a politically polarized age that not everybody agrees on the facts. My letters policy tends to be a bit looser than those of some other editorial page editors.”

This includes “Readers who still believe Iraq had weapons of mass destruction that they were taking to Syria are allowed to express that view even though it is clearly not true.” As you may recall, I addressed this “inaccuracy” once before for ACLU president turned journalist, Robyn Blumner.

But Cynthia does have a standard that even she won’t breach: “If a letter is so distorted it needs an editor’s note, Tucker won’t run it. She worries that adding an editor’s note would embarrass the writer.” Cynthia, consider this my editor’s note to you.

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:07 pm

“NIF can’t be mike, not after scoring one on taxxie’s teeth last night.”

“See? That’s where things started going wrong.”

Paul

January 3rd, 2010
4:08 pm

Jay

I agree. The point I was getting at, though, was the idea that someone – spiritual advisor or not – would think they have some ability or duty to advise another person on what’s best for their life. In many Christian traditions it is not normal to evangelize. It’s true of the church I attend. Others, though, have it as a duty for the members. Kind of follows Jesus’s instruction of “go ye into all the world, testifying…etc” So if Hume’s among that group, I can see him doing this in a matter where someone’s life has hit the skids and saying “this is a way to a happy life.”

Hume did have a valid point about the differences in belief and effect on life of one faith as opposed to another faith. I just look at it as “hey, for some, this works. Consider it.” Doesn’t strike me as arrogant at all.

It’s interesting. This is a blog where people try to convince one another of the superiority of their political/social/economic/what have you belief systems and of the better effect it has on one’s life and the lives of others. Or the life of the planet. Oh, and to condemn those who don’t share their beliefs.

But, boy oh boy, use the noujn ‘religion’ (let alone “Christianity”) as a basis and get ready for the accusations of arrogance.

Nothing Is Free

January 3rd, 2010
4:08 pm

TennVol

The core issue was that a commentator gave his opinion during a round table discussion and because that opinion did not jive with the liberal mantra that has been forced on the country for the past 30 years, Jay had to attack Hume for his opinion.

So please explain why I would need to supply opinions of others doing the same thing in order to defend a person’s right to their own opinion? Call me crazy, but this used to be a free country. if it had been woven into a story, I could see the outrage. Conservatives experience that outrage almost on a daily basis, so i could feel his pain. But this was an opinion of how Tiger Woods could solve one of his many problems given by a person, not representing anyone or anything but himself.

So no. I will not be retracting anything I have said. To my last breath, I will be defending the right for Brit Hume, Jimmy Carter or Al Gore to give their opinions.

Taxpayer

January 3rd, 2010
4:09 pm

NIF can’t be mike, not after scoring one on taxxie’s teeth last night.

That was brutal.

I see what you define as winning. Not that I really needed any more confirmation.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:10 pm

Jay writes:

So Tucker and all those other people lecture individuals that their faith is the wrong faith?

I never said that, Jay. Read my comment again. Oh wait, I guess it’s too hard for you.

What I really wrote: Jay, you might also tell that to Cynthia Tucker who consistently rails and howls on people for their faith.

Again, where in that line did I write anything about Cynthia Tucker railing on people for the WRONG FAITH?

Answer: Nowhere

Bottom line: Read a comment before throwing out a question.

Paul

January 3rd, 2010
4:11 pm

Kamchak

[[But, but, but…Obama is a Muslim–he studied at a madrassa.]]

But the Pres just said we’re at war with those Muslim fanatics…. there’s an identity crisis brewing…. at war with one’s self… Quick!! He needs to appoint a psychiatrist czar!!!!!!

TennVol

January 3rd, 2010
4:13 pm

LA – Does Tucker ever say that her faith (whatever it is) is better than theirs and that they should convert? Christians (of which I am one) have a bit of an unfortunate history when it comes to forced conversions.

I have no issue if she selectively calls out conservatives for criticism, just like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity call out liberals on a daily basis – each side has their devotees. However, saying one faith is superior to others is just wrong (whether it is mine or not).

What would you think if Tiger was a Christian and Brit said that he should become a Muslim to really achieve redemption? Would that be okay?

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:13 pm

Bad decade for the Christians.

Perhaps return to tolerance is the answer this decade.

I must be high.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:16 pm

TennVol,

A: I don’t care what religion Tiger Wood’s belongs to.

B: I have no idea if Cynthia Tucker says that her faith is better. I never wrote anything about that.

Bottom line: Read before you write.

Taxpayer

January 3rd, 2010
4:17 pm

Muslim fanatics

Of course, if those particular fanatics had been using Christianity as their publicized basis for their assaults on others , then he would have more appropriately used a different adjective, dontcha know. After all, fanatics do tend to come in all stripes.

George Foreman 3:16

January 3rd, 2010
4:17 pm

Ye all powerful omnipotent God, nice work droppin’ a bullet in a little boy’s head at Church….

Paul

January 3rd, 2010
4:17 pm

LA

Now that’s interesting. We can’t have a commentor say one faith is superior to another, or to advise a certain spiritual path for a better life.

But we can have another commentor say one faith is decidedly bad and has negative effects as demonstrated by the actions of those who align themselves with it.

As long as we don’t mean Muslims.

Got it. I think….

Southern Comfort

January 3rd, 2010
4:18 pm

I don’t see anything productive coming from this topic. See you all tomorrow.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:18 pm

TennVol,

THIS IS WHAT I WROTE: Jay, you might also tell that to Cynthia Tucker who consistently rails and howls on people for their faith.

Where in that line did I write ANYTHING about Cynthia Tucker saying her faith was better than anyone else’s?

Answer: I didn’t

Taxpayer

January 3rd, 2010
4:20 pm

I pray everyday to your false idol to come down and free the World from your ignorance. You are the spitting image of Islamic terrorists. Same story, same tune, follow my belief system or you are damned to Hell. Please, imaginary God in the sky-cloud start the rapture and take these hypocritical born-again inbred retards to la-la land. AMEN!

I hear they have a new target date that’s even sooner than 2012.

Nothing Is Free

January 3rd, 2010
4:20 pm

TennVol

**However, saying one faith is superior to others is just wrong (whether it is mine or not).**

It’s just wrong? So people can’t say that anymore. Is that what you are saying.

Can you make up a list of what we are allowed to say and what we aren’t allowed to say? Conservatives are getting confused about that Bill of Rights thing. I know. It’s certainly not the kind of document to lead a really progressive country into the grayness of collectivism, but we are ld fashion and remember what it was like when we had a free country.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:20 pm

Taxpayer, yeah but you and other libs can’t point to any Christian fanatical groups that blow up innocent people.

Nothing Is Free

January 3rd, 2010
4:24 pm

First getaclue preaching about patriotism and then about tolerance.

Now I remember why I left. It’s sort of like the title of Glen Beck’s book.

I’m going to supper.

And Jay, your none-response after you were so quick to crow said more than you could ever type.

Taxpayer

January 3rd, 2010
4:24 pm

Taxpayer, yeah but you and other libs can’t point to any Christian fanatical groups that blow up innocent people.

Well, now that they’re out of power, there’s just no more need to. Unless some folks try to re-write history, that is. Good Gog man. Grape flavoraid much.

TennVol

January 3rd, 2010
4:25 pm

LA – forgive me, must be something wrong with my computer. Mine shows that in response to Jay’s opinion that Brit Hume’s implying that one faith was superior to another you wrote:

“Jay, you might also tell that to Cynthia Tucker who consistently rails and howls on people for their faith.”

Not thinking that you wrote that as just a statement without reading Jay’s piece, I mistakenly thought you had posted it as a reply to Jay’s comments – implying some sort of moral equivalence between what Brit Hume did and what Cynthia Tucker does. I was trying to illustrate to you that there is not a moral equivalence as what they do appears to me to be quite different.

I apologize, I now must assume you simply post that same comment on all message boards you visit, not as a response to any specific topic, but just because you would like someone to admonish Cynthia Tucker. Sorry, my mistake.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:25 pm

Liberal answers about Christian fanatics.

1: Tim McVeigh: Where did he attend church?

2: Eric Rudolph: Where did he attend church?

3: The Crusades: Happened over 500 years ago and happened due to Muslims killing 3,000 Christians.

Other than that…………………..

godaddy

January 3rd, 2010
4:26 pm

liberals bash Christians and defend Muslims

constantly.

see the blogs @ al jazeera

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:26 pm

“First getaclue preaching about patriotism and then about tolerance.”

Amen.

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January 3rd, 2010
4:26 pm

taxxie- I don’t think we can entirely “win” against liberalism. That would be like defeating decay or rot. It’s too pervasive. The best that we can hope for is to score gigantic points on your ass, like NIF did, and beat you into remission.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:26 pm

Taxpayer, then you’ll have no problem showing facts about Christians blowing up buildings, flying planes into buildings etc……….

Nothing Is Free

January 3rd, 2010
4:27 pm

Agnostic Angie

The only one talking about hate here is you and calling anyone that doesn’t agree with you an inbred retard says so much more about you than it does about them.

So you better go and check your astrology tables to see if it’s safe for you to type anything else. Cause I’m sure that the movement of planets, millions of light years away is the true faith.

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:28 pm

LA,

Birmingham Alabama was where a police officer was blown up.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:29 pm

TennVol, ugh, my response to Jay was due to his bias towards his own colleagues and their racist and intolerant tendencies towards others.

Bottom line: Cynthia Tucker has disdain for white people and does not like Christian Conservatives.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:29 pm

getalife, by what Christian group?

Pogo

January 3rd, 2010
4:31 pm

Now, now Jay. Don’t play the old “Name that Example” thing. You know, as well as any thinking person does, that it is understood that it is OK in the American Media and the American Press to outright attack Christians today and that Tucker (and apparently you) seem to subscribe to this view as well. Don’t be so sanctimonious in your astoundment of Tucker being called on the carpet for apparent her disdain of certain members of the religion. Tucker equates certain practitioners of Christianity (namely the caucasion ones) as being detrimental to society and she not so subtly implies that they are the source of all our country’s problems as they are the “racists” and they are the “intolerant”. Intolerance to certain behaviours is inherent to every religion or else it would basically mean nothing. The funny thing is, the radical intolerance of the Muslim religion are never mentioned by you or Cindy, are they Jay? Why is that? While you attack Hume for stating that Tiger should seek religious help you say nothing about the Muslims that are killing people on a daily basis to “persuade” people to their faith. Basically there are only three groups left which can be attacked under the Political Correctness regime of the American Media and Press, of which you and Cynthia are part of:

(1) Christians
(2) Caucasions
(3) Obese people

Anyone and anything outside of those is offlimits, not matter how radical.

That being said, Hume doesn’t have any authority to tell Tiger (or Iggy Popp for that matter) what he should be doing with his spiritual life. Tiger will suffer from his own weakness as we all do.

Millicent

January 3rd, 2010
4:33 pm

Brit Hume said that one can’t redeem oneself as readily with Buddhism as with Christianity. Brit thinks the soul is a coupon.

How about Rush claiming the medical treatment he received is proof that our healthcare system is sound? He didn’t mention how much his examination cost. or what plan he has. Thank Buddha that Rush is okay!

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:33 pm

While Jay is concerned about Brit Hume, who has not authority or power, he ignores the real crisis.

Barack Obama is vulnerable on terror – and he knows it

Barack Obama is playing politics over the attempted Christmas Day terrorist attack and Republicans sense he is weak on the issue, writes Toby Harnden in Washington

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6924404/Barack-Obama-is-vulnerable-on-terror—and-he-knows-it.html

Paul

January 3rd, 2010
4:33 pm

getalife

[[“First getaclue preaching about patriotism and then about tolerance.”

Amen.]]

I like your message. Where can I send money?

Taxpayer

January 3rd, 2010
4:33 pm

taxxie- I don’t think we can entirely “win” against liberalism. That would be like defeating decay or rot. It’s too pervasive. The best that we can hope for is to score gigantic points on your ass, like NIF did, and beat you into remission.

I can see what your wet dreams are made of, Andy. Perhaps you would like to illustrate your claim that someone “scored” points on my ass for I seem to be missing any evidence of that occurence. Then again, I find that you and a few others here do have a rather perverse definition of “winning”. Entertain me, Andy, if you think yourself capable.

Governor Sanford

January 3rd, 2010
4:34 pm

I’m off the trail with Larry Craig and were converting to buddhism..

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

January 3rd, 2010
4:35 pm

taxxie- You conceded the win and now you are taking it back? Move the goal posts much?

Taxpayer

January 3rd, 2010
4:36 pm

Taxpayer, then you’ll have no problem showing facts about Christians blowing up buildings, flying planes into buildings etc……….

I see your point. It would indeed be a stretch to call the Bush administration a bunch of Christians. Especially that Rumsfeld… and those briefings that he handed over to Bush. Well…shockingly awesome.

Millicent

January 3rd, 2010
4:36 pm

When Rush was admitted with chest pains, by a weird coincidence, Michael J Fox was in that hospital. He saw Rush and immediately began grabbing at his chest feigning a heart attack. He even said, “I’m coming Elizabeth”. (like red fox)

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:37 pm

LA,

The pro life group silly.

Taxpayer

January 3rd, 2010
4:38 pm

taxxie- You conceded the win and now you are taking it back? Move the goal posts much?

Concede what, Andy. Put up some evidence of your claims about last night. What’s wrong, Andy. Lacking something there.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:39 pm

getalife, so, a whole group of pro-lifers blew up a building?

You really are grasping at straws!

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:39 pm

Paul,

Donate to those Americans with zero income and living off of food stamps.

Can I get an amen?

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:39 pm

getalife, what church did these pro-lifers attend?

Millicent

January 3rd, 2010
4:39 pm

Whatever you think of Bush’s competence as a Commander in Chief, 911 succeeded. Whatever you think of Obama as a Commander in Chief, the xmas day bomb failed.

We are safer now than we were with Bush.

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getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:40 pm

LA,

It’s an ideology.

Not a group silly.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:41 pm

getalife, I can name many more Islamic terror than you can “Christian fanatical terror.”

Example: Christmas Day Detroit Delta attempted bombing.

Millicent

January 3rd, 2010
4:41 pm

Brit Hume has a cool name. That he’s a total idiot doesn’t detract from how cool he is.

Never forget that.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:41 pm

getalife wrote: t’s an ideology.

Not a group silly.

Then you’ll have no problem citing what church groups tell its members to blow up buildings and kill innocent people.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

January 3rd, 2010
4:42 pm

taxxie- I didn’t say “win.” You did. Don’t remember? Incoherent?

Taxpayer

January 3rd, 2010
4:42 pm

We are safer now than we were with Bush.

And don’t you know that has just got to really get under some folk’s skin. Dick comes to mind.

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:43 pm

Atlanta Olympic bombing.

Hi LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:43 pm

Hahaha Paul is still talking about Rev Wright, lol. What year are you posting from??

Doesn’t all the time you spend thinking about the Rev take precious moments away from researching Whitewater?

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:43 pm

getalife, how many pro-lifers have blown up buildings and killed people?

Answer: 1

And you can’t even tell me where he went to church or what his denomination was.

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:44 pm

Sandy Springs abortion clinic.

The second one was meant for first responders.

Paul

January 3rd, 2010
4:44 pm

getalife

Amen.

But it’s going to take more than words to get those folks back to the life they used to have.

Millicent

So now Pres Obama is gets credit because the detonator failed?!!?

So I guess if some nutcase makes it through security, points a gun at point-blank range at an elected official, pulls the trigger… and it misfires

The Obama Administration will say “the system worked.”

And some will actually believe it.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:44 pm

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:43 pm

Atlanta Olympic bombing.

LOLOL

Same person.

Again, name AN ENTIRE GROUP OF CHRISTIAN FANATICS WHO HAVE DONE THAT.

Taxpayer

January 3rd, 2010
4:44 pm

taxxie- I didn’t say “win.” You did. Don’t remember? Incoherent?

You presented your definition of winning and I called you out on it and, as usual, you just fail to deliver the goods. What’s wrong, Andy. Don’t remember.

LA

January 3rd, 2010
4:45 pm

getalife

Sandy Springs abortion clinic.

The second one was meant for first responders.

AGAIN, SAME PERSON.

YOU KEEP POSTING CRIMES COMMITTED BY ONE SINGLE PERSON.

What proof do you have that Eric Rudolph attended a church or that he was a Christian.

Jesus Luvs Cannabis

January 3rd, 2010
4:45 pm

The conception was not immaculate, it was typical. Young dude can’t handle his weed. Peter was the Father (just chillin’ till lil’ Jesus passed out), Jesus was stoned alright- by the chronic not the Romans.

getalife

January 3rd, 2010
4:45 pm