‘Avatar’ is a holiday trip of a different sort

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“Avatar” is a James Cameron movie in 3-D. Those words alone tell you a lot, but they don’t tell you everything. Not by a long shot.

The “Avatar” plot is familiar, an easy mashup of cowboy movies, “Dances with Wolves,” “Pocahontas” and even “Ferngully,” a 1992 children’s film in which the fairy people defend their rainforest from predatory loggers, with the assistance of a turncoat logger “gone native.” (The “Ferngully” reference comes courtesy of Elder Daughter.)  There’s also a backhanded swipe or two at U.S. policy in the oil-rich Middle East.

However, a more original, demanding plot might have detracted from the true achievement of “Avatar,” which is the conception of an entirely new world and its presentation on the movie screen. Cameron, who has a taste for the grandiose, has said that watching “Avatar” isn’t like watching a movie, “it’s more like being in a dream state, like dreaming with your eyes wide open,” and it’s not bragging if it’s true.

It’s not bragging.

The world of Pandora is well imagined and fully realized, in three dimensions, and its actors are completely integrated into that world. As a result, so is the viewer. Cameron is right: You don’t watch “Avatar,” you experience it. The great sci-fi writer Arthur C. Clarke liked to say that “any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic,” and the technology behind “Avatar” fully meets that test.

Cameron helped create much of that technology, but his bigger achievement may be in how he chose to use it. For the most part, he does not handle 3-D technology as a cool toy to be played with, and you seldom catch him showing off. It is not a gimmick, it is the medium in which he is working, and the respect he gives it is rewarded. The same is true of the motion-capture technology used to convert his actors’ movements, gestures and expressions into digital beings on the screen. It is seamless.

Cameron has predicted that 3-D technology will transform modern cinema in much the way color transformed the movie industry in the late ’30s. I’m not sure I agree. Within a few years of its introduction, color had become the film industry standard and black and white movies had all but disappeared. I don’t think 3-D will have quite that impact, because not all genres will benefit from it.

But all James Cameron movies will.

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Scooter

December 30th, 2009
12:19 pm

Scooter

December 30th, 2009
12:20 pm

Outhouse Go-Kart

December 30th, 2009
12:24 pm

Does the kenyan make a cameo appearance in this lil movie?

RW-(the original)

December 30th, 2009
12:24 pm

I think I’ve been hearing about 3D transforming the movie industry since the days of Richie and Fonzie sitting around with those stupid looking glasses on. It’s kind of like the paperless office I guess.

Bosch

December 30th, 2009
12:34 pm

After the way Cameron paraded himself as God after Titanic, I don’t feel the need to ever see another one of his movies.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 30th, 2009
12:42 pm

Old family traditon…going to the movies on Christmas afternoon. We saw Avatar this year.

Mr G and the Zillete’s loved it. The combination of my own poor eyesite,
trifocals, 3D glasses and sound levels had me sitting through the whole thing praying I wouldn’t technicolor yawn in the popcorn bag.

Not my best afternoon.

I’d give it a 7….mostly on what technical effects I could stand to watch.

Next day we saw Sherlock Holmes…..much better.

Paul

December 30th, 2009
12:43 pm

Thanks, Jay. So regardless of the plot, it’s an experience in and of itself.

I’ll go see it as soon as the kiddies return to school and the cinemas are empty.

Glad you’re relaxing on your holiday –

Hey Bosch!

Still overeatin’? Overdrinkin’? Generally overindulgin’?

Good for you!

Outhouse Go-Kart

December 30th, 2009
12:50 pm

“Next day we saw Sherlock Holmes…..much better.”

Godzy…how was Downeys performance? Critics giving it a boost!

Bosch

December 30th, 2009
12:50 pm

Hi ya’ Paul!

It’s still Christmas, right? I wouldn’t say I’m relaxing so much – the other Bosch is off, so my honeydew list has been very extensive – something everyday. Today we’ve got to deal with some furniture that’s been in storage – this is the only time of year we have to do these kind of things.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
12:50 pm

Bosch…
Tend to agree with that myself. No need or interest to see it in the theatre and I know it’ll be coming to the home screen soon. Unmentionable, who’s seen more films than anybody I know and who can tell you who directed and who did the special effects but couldn’t name a one of the stars half the time, will be buying his own copy and I’ll be in for, “…look at what he’s done with…watch this…amazing…” for months to come…

On the other hand, RW, we did get through here with only a veiled reference to the Repubs…! :-)

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
12:54 pm

Mrs G

“Next day we saw Sherlock Holmes…..much better.”
This one I’ve actually considered breaking with my own tradition of staying out of the movie houses to go see…Is it worth it?

P F

December 30th, 2009
12:56 pm

Warning about this movie which they should tell you before you buy your ticket. If you have the slightest case of vertigo, or have been known to get car, boat or air sick, do NOT see this movie in 3-D. I have a slight case of vertigo and had to leave the movie an hour and 15 minutes into it. I wasn’t the first one either. When I made it to the trashcan, there was already 2 ushers there with water taking care of another patron. If you want to see “Dances with wolves” in space, check it out 2-D or on DVD. No movie is worth losing your dinner over.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 30th, 2009
12:59 pm

Outie and josef

Robert Downey Jr was excellent..Guy Ritchie’s did a hell of a job.

Slips a little bit of that “Matrix” slowdown footage in…..Holmes thinking how he’s going to bring his opponent down. Then normal speed… wham bam…he does it.

Very Cool.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 30th, 2009
1:00 pm

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
1:01 pm

BTW, Jay…thanks for a new thread…you can go back to sleep now, Bruin! :-)

RW-(the original)

December 30th, 2009
1:01 pm

On the other hand, RW, we did get through here with only a veiled reference to the Repubs

josef

That’s probably because the big stuff is coming in Flight 253-Part 7-The Cheney Files which I’m sure is in the works as I type.

Guess I’ll go stock up in case we get deluged with this half inch of rain the weather ferrets are all in a tizzy over.

Se y’all later.

Paul

December 30th, 2009
1:02 pm

Bosch

I’m about to get into a self imposed honeydo. Seems my wife likes to razz me about the state of my office,but when it comes to her stuff stashed out of sight….

So I’ve asked before all the Christmas decorations go back in the attic (I never knew one couple could have so many decorations….) all the stuff in the attic comes down and the stuff we haven’t looked at or used in a few years gets sent off to charity.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
1:08 pm

Mrs. G…
Thanks…i’m a big Holmes fan (one of the places Unmentionable and I agree) and I don’t care what there is to say about him otherwise, Downey is one fine actor (another place we agree).

RW @ 1:01

“That’s probably because the big stuff is coming in Flight 253-Part 7-The Cheney Files which I’m sure is in the works as I type.”

No doubt. But I’ll probably wait for the movie to come out on cable…

Mrs. Godzilla

December 30th, 2009
1:12 pm

Paul

We are doing the same thing. We have 21 plastic storage tubs plus contractors bags with our “theme” trees for each room….and dishes…and linens…..Mr. G just laughs.

33 years worth of merry ho ho stuff….

Paul

December 30th, 2009
1:16 pm

Mrs. Godzilla

And we have to agree, the old homestead looks pretty stunning once all that stuff’s up, yes?

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
1:17 pm

PAUL

About every five years I go on such a binge. Rule of thumb, when you get to the layer untouched in the last year, throw everything below their out…

BOSCH–
YOU have my sympathies (and Untouchable’s empathies)…you have to deal with a school teacher’s mentality–it may look like trash to you, but “the kids could use this in a project….”

Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Homes

December 30th, 2009
1:20 pm

Holmes as action hero is how the trailers seem to portray this film. As a traditional Holmes fan (Rathbone, Brett) I fear I will not enjoy it. Will it satisfy, or put off those of us who never fail to chuckle at Nigel Bruce’s muttering?

AmVet

December 30th, 2009
1:22 pm

Color me skeptical.

How many times have we heard that the special effects “made” the movie?

This to cloak a plot that a precocious sixth grader could trump. Characters as interesting and compelling as a a bunch of little old Republican ladies at a sewing circle, with dialogue to match. And a soundtrack from the seventh level of Dante’s Disco Inferno.

As the English say, I’ll give it a miss…

Southern Comfort

December 30th, 2009
1:23 pm

This is by far the most humorous review I’ve seen of Avatar. It almost makes me want to go see it now.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/12/26/notes122609.DTL

Gotta run. People coming in the airport now.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 30th, 2009
1:23 pm

Paul

I used to think so….and then the young ones came home one Christmas
and commented that it looked like Santa barfed all over the house.
Hurt my little feelings, so I have been scaling back.

However, I will never give up my bubble lights……

Finn McCool

December 30th, 2009
1:23 pm

The people demand their Dancing with the Stars in 3D pronto!

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
1:27 pm

AmVet

Seventh level? “suicides, squanderers, userers and sodomites…”

Homophobic, anti Semitic, GOP-Democrat…put yourself out of your misery! :-)

Paul

December 30th, 2009
1:27 pm

Mrs. Godzilla

That’s grounds for a lump of coal!

There are things you should do, just for you, because it makes you happy.

My vote: decorate away!

Call it like it is.

December 30th, 2009
1:27 pm

You were close Jay, but have you ever seen “A Man Called Horse” with Richard Harris. 1970. This is Avatar, execpt the indians are blue.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 30th, 2009
1:28 pm

Basil

Also loved your films…..Did you know that the Holmes character as created by Arthur Conan Doyle was skilled in bare knuckled boxing and martial arts? It just wasn’t portrayed in your films.

Dusty

December 30th, 2009
1:32 pm

I won’t be going to see AVATAR. The advertisements show the ugliest makeup I’ve ever seen. Or should I say repugnant? I like actors to look good!!

As to Sherlock Holmes, PBS had the best Sherlock Holmes series a few years back. The actor was so good that I would be comparing him to this modern Sherlock.. I like the real old English foggy nights kind of mystery. Remember Basil Rathbone? He was a great mystery man. “The Hounds of the Baskervilles”!!! Among the great mysteries I’ve enjoyed.

Dusty

December 30th, 2009
1:36 pm

sorry, 1:20

Hadn’t read your post when I mentioned Basil Rathbone. Obviously, I agree with your preferences.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

December 30th, 2009
1:36 pm

Well, I’m sure happy Bookman finally showed up. He must have more vacation than My President ever had. I thought some of these people were going to kill each other this a.m.

Anyways, my buddy Jim Earl swears he sees some of them blue people when he gets a case of the DTs.

Haven’t went to a movie theater in many years. Ever since they said you couldn’t use tobacco in one. I knowed it was going to happen. It started when they made the smokers set in the balcony. It was only a matter of time till we were banished outright.

So I just leave the theaters to the tree huggers and the libruls and the other little kids that go to them. I can wait. All these movies will show up on HBO or Showtime sooner or later.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

Who Framed Roger Avatar

December 30th, 2009
1:39 pm

So what…. Terminator Salvation was stupid. Transformers 2 was stupid. Avatar is just the next in line to be called stupid.

Effects based movies are lame. They’re even worse when they spew communist blather and environmental bullstuff.

I’ll be watching something worthwhile this weekend. Band of Brothers on BluRay.

Gale

December 30th, 2009
1:40 pm

P F, Thanks for the motion sickness warning. My SO wants to see Avatar 3D and she is a motion sickness victim.

I’m lukewarm about Avatar because I like there to be a story. I am very eager to see Sherlock Holmes just because of Robert Downey Jr. I think his work is great. I really want to see what he does with Holmes. Jud Law is no slouch actore either.

jd

December 30th, 2009
1:41 pm

If you have vertigo, don’t see the 3-D version, see the plain one. It’s still great.

On another topic, one of the worst movies of 2009 was 2012.

Avatar is how you should use special effects, 2012 is how NOT to use special effects.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
1:45 pm

SoCo–
That review is brilliant! G-d! If I could write like that…

I’m like you, with that review in mind, I think I could sit through it AND enjoy…!

Papa Dragon

December 30th, 2009
1:50 pm

Don’t spend your money on this movie, wait till it is released in dvd. It is just ok, not good or great.

Taxpayer

December 30th, 2009
1:53 pm

Jay,

You just need a little more faith in science. By the way, have you ever played any of the Myst games. They were ahead of their time.

Gale

December 30th, 2009
1:55 pm

I have heard that Avatar is a “big screen movie”, not a good movie, but visually impressive.

Gale

December 30th, 2009
1:58 pm

Myst wasn’t my kind of game, but I must say, the visuals were fantastic. I could wish the visuals were as detailed for the game I’m playing now.

Jake

December 30th, 2009
2:08 pm

I’d read Morford and loved his stuff for years. And two hours of fantasy escapism from the horrors of daily life in the Obama Gulag is very welcome indeed.

Taxpayer

December 30th, 2009
2:08 pm

Does the kenyan make a cameo appearance in this lil movie?

Nah. This movie sounds like it would use a faux Texan — like a Bush.

Outhouse Go-Kart

December 30th, 2009
2:09 pm

The only way I would go would be to drop at least 2 hits of LSD and have a proper chaperon so as not to get out of control or tossed into the slammer.

Then and only then might it be worth seeing.

Outhouse Go-Kart

December 30th, 2009
2:10 pm

Taxpayer

December 30th, 2009
2:08 pm

LMAO…figures it would be you!

Dusty

December 30th, 2009
2:20 pm

josef, 1:45

I think you could write like that. Just pick up your prescription at the drug store and mix it with the stuff ffrom the corner vendor…Voila! You could review movies not even made yet.

Taxpayer

December 30th, 2009
2:24 pm

LMAO…figures it would be you!

Things got too quiet and your comment was just easy pickins’. Right up there near the top. Not first. Not even second. Just the first one with something to comment on. After all, what could I say about Scooter’s posts.

Finn McCool

December 30th, 2009
2:26 pm

Finn McCool

December 30th, 2009
2:28 pm

you just have to watch to see where he’s going with that gun in his hand. Hey Joe!

Mrs. Godzilla

December 30th, 2009
2:29 pm

Another take on the movie…..

The Racial Politics of Avatar

http://www.truthout.org/topstories/123009vh12

Taxpayer

December 30th, 2009
2:32 pm

Dang, Finn. That one should come with a warning to not try this at home or something. They make it kind of hard to kiss and make up afterward.

FinnMcCool

December 30th, 2009
2:43 pm

taxpayer, effed up isn’t it?

Michael W.

December 30th, 2009
2:46 pm

Avatar is in 3-D, just in time for 3G smart phones.

Mein Kampf was written in 2-D

It should be noted here that the original title Hitler chose was “Four and a Half Years of Struggle against Lies, Stupidity and Cowardice.” See how Hitler’s rant is in the title of his book?

Doesn’t that sound like one or two of the commenter’s namesakes here on this blog? Where the partisan hysterics occurs in the ID of the ranter?

Throughout Mein Kampf, Hitler refers to Jews as parasites, liars, dirty, crafty, sly, wily, clever, without any true culture, a sponger, a middleman, a maggot, eternal blood suckers, repulsive, unscrupulous, monsters, foreign, menace, bloodthirsty, avaricious, the destroyer of Aryan humanity, and the mortal enemy of Aryan humanity…

Who does THAT sound like?

Dusty

December 30th, 2009
3:26 pm

Where is Bruno aka Hillary?? Is she still over in Syria or some place with the usual “This is what the man said I must say.?”

Well, maybe she is home helping Chelsea plan her wedding. That would be more fun than trying to explain how an explosive loaded terrorist flew right into the USA after saying just “Howdy!” to Rotterdam airport security. .Or maybe she has her teeth clamped shut as she watches Obama run to the microphone between rounds of golf with a different opinion each time. Must be fun!!.

cress

December 30th, 2009
3:29 pm

Reading most of the comments here make me think that most of you are unimaginative, conservative BORES! “Oh, the 3d hurt my eyes..I got sick.and threw up ” You are either making that up or are in a miniscule minority of viewers. No one left in both viewings I attended. “Oh, the make-up looks bad” or “It will be on HBO soon anyway.” What boring people you are. Why bother commenting on this film when you obviously find films with Larry the Cable Guy or Chuck Norris in them your cup of tea.

Arch in Santa Cruz

December 30th, 2009
3:34 pm

Lets get rid of one big stinky misperception. James Cameron did not proclaim himself
“King of the world”. He was quoting his character Jack Dawson, who said this at the bow
the Titanic, his arms spread into the wind. He was obviously expressing how he felt
upon winning the Oscar. And when any of you naysayers accomplish 1/1000th of what
Cameron has done, be sure to let us all know.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
3:37 pm

Hello, Finn…great link!

Dusty–
Movies that haven’t been made yet…great one for the Bruin to use for a Saturday at the movies!

This thread and the Unmentionable, the movie addict that he is tickled my linguist’ funny bone with this and told me to pass it on from the Feather Growing Savage to you…

Russell Means commented on this movie as follows: “Remember Lawrence of Arabia? That was Lawrence of the Plains. The odd thing about making that movie is, they had a woman teaching the actors the Lakota language. But Lakota has a male-gendered language and a female-gendered language. Some of the Indians and Kevin Costner were speaking in the feminine way. When I went to see it with a bunch of Lakota guys, we were laughing.”

larry

December 30th, 2009
3:43 pm

Larry the Cable Guy for Govenor………………. of Alaska

larry

December 30th, 2009
3:44 pm

Chuck Norris drinks tea? Who knew?

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
3:47 pm

cress: aka “every mother’s son?”

Arch in Santa Cruz

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
3:51 pm

Arch in Santa Cruz

Well, tsa-la-gi ga-yo-tli tsi-wo-ni… and know to stay the heck away from Sioux…

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 30th, 2009
4:26 pm

As I’ve said before, I’m not much into movies but I would like to tell Jay that he actually did a good job of writing a movie review. Often times when I read a music review, book review, or a movie review, I have no idea after reading it whether I would enjoy it or be wasting my money. Jay’s column tells me enough so I can answer that question for myself. So a hat tip to Jay; you’ve written a better review than 95% of the full time reviewers.

jokerman

December 30th, 2009
4:28 pm

Josef…As a point of interest I donate twice a year to the St. Joseph’s Indian School (Lakota) Chamberain, S.D.

Just saying.

md

December 30th, 2009
4:29 pm

Cress sounds like one of those self proclaimed intolerant tolerant folks.

Taxpayer

December 30th, 2009
4:33 pm

Cress sounds like one of those self proclaimed intolerant tolerant folks.

To self-proclaim or not to self-proclaim… .

Dusty

December 30th, 2009
4:40 pm

Well, josef,

I was going to send this post by smoke signal but it is raining a little. Feather Growing Savage would understand. Keep your feathers and your powder DRY!!

Anyway, I did not know about the male and female gendered Lakota language. Of course, when I was working with Rachel YellsEagle at Eagle Butte, S.D.( she’s an Oglala) I didn’t learn much about the language. Their blood works just like our sbut I already knew that!!

Had some good times between work at the hospital. Picked up fossil sea shells. Went to a night rodeo with big wooden planks for the fence. One bull broke right through and charged into the night between the pick up trucks. I though he was so brave and free until I heard later he was hit and killed on a road. I think it was pickup revenge.

Economic conditions there were very bad, lotsa related problems showing up at the little hospital. Quite a difference from the conditions in Arizona where I saw some more prosperous tribes and bigger hospitals, even a hospital plane which I think I have already mentioned to you. Interesting times, always.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
4:58 pm

Hillbilly–
Kinda like his review, myself, of course no one is in the category that SoCo linked… I wish Jay really would let himself go sometime…he can really turn a phrase when in the mood…

md…
He does, indeed…I don’t know why he bothers with changing his monniker, though, it’s always much the same…

jokerman–the Sioux are, of the major nations, the ones most in need…they wrote the book on getting scr*wed…

Dusty–
Feather Growing Savage sends o-si-yo to the nice white lady via the laptop, saving the smoke signals for when the ice-storm knocks out the power lines and we have to gather round the camp fire…

The bull story…he’s got a cousin who’s a real, live Indian cowboy in the rodeo…boy’s amazing (well, used to be, he’s our age now and works training the younguns…)

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
5:09 pm

Michael W…

“Who does that sound like…”

It sounds like an uncomfortable number of posters here both left and right…we’ve got one, a self-proclaimed liberal, who could put Goebbels in the shade on Jews and some of the Muslim bashers would be right at home in the docks at Nurnberg…but, you can’t tell them that…

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
6:01 pm

Josef @ 4:58, Josef @ 5:09 and now Josef @ 6:00

I guess we are stuck on stupid!

RW-(the original)

December 30th, 2009
6:05 pm

How boring does someone have to be to parachute into a blog to tell the people there that they’re boring?

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
6:11 pm

RW
Oh, s/he’s here a lot…just can’t remember his/her name…

Dusty

December 30th, 2009
6:15 pm

josef,

I worked with an Indian med tech at Ganado (the Dine) who loved the rodeo. Sometimes he seemed to find the lab a bit tedious and off to ride the bulls.. He brought me a picture of him on a bucking bull. Impressive.

There were also local rodeos many nights at Sells.(Papago / Tohono Odum) They had seats like the fields of local ball teams. My youngest son, about ten years old at the time, was with me that summer. As we sat in the night with the generator lights going and the pickup trucks selling food behind us and the wild horses hitting the fence, my son spilled his cup of ice right on the back of a very large man sitting in front of us. And could he move! He jumped up face to face, hands rising. My son was siiting there like “Oh no!”. I smiled (torturously) and the man saw it was just a boy and wasn’t intentional. He stood a minute then turned around and sat down. and… the wild horses keep hitting the fence but we were CALM. Sorta!! That same son came back to the lab one morning to tell me how he and his newfound buddy had nearly stepped on a rattlesnake in the desert.. My son also collected a few pet tarantulas and was disappointed when he couldn’t bring them home. My husband had joined us for the trip home and he said emphatically “NO!”

Many great times, I tell you.

Michael W.

December 30th, 2009
6:28 pm

another gentle reminder that AMC is hosting a Stooge Marathon on New Years Eve. It’s a folly day of obligation, and attendence is mandatory, or it’s a mortal sin against vaudeville.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
6:32 pm

Dusty—
One of Unmentionable’s favorite memories of his time in Fairbanks when he was a kid and was “baptized” an Eskimo. He was at the movies and, for no apparent reason, the old Inuit fellow behind him opened a can of sardines and dumped the contents on Unmentionable’s head, never said a word and no change of expression. Later when he was telling his buddies, one of the natives laughed and told him, “oh, it’s an old custom. He thought you smelled like a white boy, so he made you an Eskimo…” So now when somebody asks him “what kind” of Indian he is he tells them he’s Inuit…he claims he’s going to register as such when the census taker comes calling…

Michael W.

December 30th, 2009
6:33 pm

TCM for the stooge marathon.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
6:34 pm

Michael…
A Stooges fan, eh? Love ‘em! I’ll probably channel surf them and Barney Miller marathon…

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 30th, 2009
6:40 pm

Way back in the day (I may be the only one who remembers), in the pre-superStation days, Channel 17 had the Stooges on every morning. I watched them every day before I went off to work.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
6:54 pm

The Stooge’s “You Natzy Spy” is generally considered the first anti-Nazi production, bucking the system and setting the stage for Chaplain’s The Great Dictator…

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 30th, 2009
7:04 pm

You Natzy Spy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9adsn2d25I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIZeE9BHxc0

I think this is as relevant as anything the Marx Brothers did and that’s saying a lot.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
7:08 pm

RW-(the original)

December 30th, 2009
7:19 pm

I can take the Stooges in maximum increments of about five minutes a year so I’ll be missing the marathon.

Hillbilly D,

I heard a plausible explanation for why we start a new century on year one as in 21st century beginning with year 2001 and the first century beginning with year 1, but the decades still ending when their tens digit ends. It boils down to how we refer to them and while we refer to the century by it’s hundred number we refer to a decade by it’s tens digit so basically after we screwed the 1st century out of one of it’s “naughts” we’ve rocked along just fine with competing terminology.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
7:19 pm

Hillbilly–beat me to it!

AmVet–that was good!

Somebody one time asked my grandfather in a theological discussion who he considered the greatest Jews of all time, expecting a Maimonides, Jesus, etc…he answered, “Curley, Larry and Moe” and when his peers laughed and said, “no, seriously,” he answered, “I am serious. Natzy Spy woke America up to what was going on…”

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
7:23 pm

RW…say it ain’t so…! Give the one we’re talking about a second look, or better, listen….

AmVet– I sent him into one early on around here…and, well, he did have me down pat! Had to give him credit…

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 30th, 2009
7:28 pm

RW @ 7:19

A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. ;-)

RW-(the original)

December 30th, 2009
7:29 pm

Give the one we’re talking about a second look, or better, listen…

Every single time somebody has convinced me to do that I’ve come away wondering how I let myself get fooled into it again, but maybe I’ll give it a shot later if I can motivate myself to hook up my speakers.

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 30th, 2009
7:30 pm

RW-(the original)

December 30th, 2009
7:31 pm

A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

Maybe I’ll just use that as the words of wisdom I needed so as not to be convinced to watch that Stooge link.

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 30th, 2009
7:33 pm

For satire I’d put “You Natzy Spy” on the same level with “Duck Soup”. It might actually be better because it was specific, whereas “Duck Soup” was more abstract.

I always wanted to use “whereas” in a sentence like the shyst…I mean lawyers do. :lol:

Paul

December 30th, 2009
7:34 pm

I’ll have to repost this. Usual suspects aren’t in.

To all those who like to lace their posts with Republicans as the Stooges of big business (like the Stooges reference?) – it appears Barney Frank has become a Republican!

“Bankers Get $4 Trillion Gift from Barney Frank”

that’s not a typo – that’s ‘Trillion” with a “T”

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=a48c8UpUMxKQ

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
7:40 pm

Hillbilly–

Paulsen–a true genius!

RW–
I can understand if slapstick in not your shtick, but the writing in this is a magnificent use of Mother English to make a point…the only one we’ve got today that comes to mind of being in that category is Jeff Dunham…

AmVet–whey Andy got into a dither with me and, as I said, had me down pat, the left-handed compliment was he was paying more attention to me than I was….

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
7:49 pm

PAUL– that’s a good read…lemme see, now, four trillion—my share would be if I’m not off (and math’s not my strong suit either—all those zeroes—) would be about $13,000…give everybody in the country that and see what would happen to the economy–shoo, eee!

Still, though, I’m not willing to crawl in the bed with Barney Frankeven for that…

stands for decibels

December 30th, 2009
7:50 pm

PBS had the best Sherlock Holmes series a few years back. The actor was so good that I would be comparing him to this modern Sherlock.

I’m with Dusty here.

Jeremy Brett played the title role, and was fantastic. Really have a hard time imagining Downey Jr as some 00s-type action hero, but who knows.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
7:52 pm

STB–

Well, it is drug related… :-)

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 30th, 2009
7:54 pm

Paul @ 7:34

That just reinforces my longheld view that nobody up there reads anything they vote on and nobody has a clue what is in any bill. The only way we find out is through the law of unintended consequences, which bites us in the behind 99.44% of the time. (That figure is from Paragraph 4, Pg 1473 of the Law of Unintended Consequences). When whatever clerk or lobbyist that actually wrote that part of the Bill, decides it’s time to cash in, that’s when we learn what is really in the Bill.

I’m just an ol’ country boy, who’s a bit of a cynical curmudgeon, but seems to me like 400-500 pages should cover anything. And, of course, it would never happen but I’d like to see all amendments to a bill have to pertain to the original subject of the bill. In otherwords, if you’ve sponsored a health care bill, I can’t take on an amendment to build a Mooset*rd Pie Museum in my district. I’d have to write my own bill for the museum.

Oh well, I guess the Don Quixote in me is coming out tonight.

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 30th, 2009
7:54 pm

*tack on an amendment

Sorry for the misspelling but I was on a roll. ;-)

stands for decibels

December 30th, 2009
7:55 pm

it is drug related…

Oh, I think Downey has the Seven Percent Solution business down pat, fer sure.

RW-(the original)

December 30th, 2009
7:56 pm

OK, I’ll bite. Who’s Jeff Dunham? If he’s the guy I just googled Comedy Central just canceled him.

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
7:57 pm

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
8:03 pm

RW–
Yeah, the show wasn’t really very good…but his routines are wunnerful…my kids say I’m really Walter incognito..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cCspBW8O8c&feature=PlayList&p=B463D572D49C809D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=10

josef nix

December 30th, 2009
8:05 pm

RW
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