Hero of Flight 253 recounts terror attempt

Here’s a CNN  interview with Jasper Schuringa, one of the passengers on board Northwest Airlines Flight 253 into Detroit.  Accounts emerging so far credit the young Dutchman with initiating the effort by passengers and crew to thwart the terrorist attack.

“We just jumped and tried to save the plane,” he says. “And we did luckily save the plane.”

Schuringa’s quick action apparently helped save many lives, and he deserves a lot of praise. On the other hand, when somebody is thrust from anonymity into the heat of the media spotlight,  you always have to worry about how they’ll handle it. Based on this interview, Schuringa doesn’t seem all that enthralled with the spotlight. Somehow, that makes his story all the more appealing.

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December 27th, 2009
8:34 am

If only the TSA could have done their job, he wouldn’t have had to risk his life and be used by the White House state run media as the “big” story, since they don’t want to talk about the underlying problem.

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December 27th, 2009
8:36 am

Geez, when even the state run media admits, you’d better start worrying-

Even though the economy will likely keep growing, the pace is expected to be plodding. That will make employers reluctant to hire. Further contributing to high unemployment is the likelihood of more people competing for jobs, baby boomers delaying retirement and interest rates edging higher. -Urinal

Yeah, so let’s saddle We The People with gigantic tax hikes from our lovely health care obomination.

duh

stands for decibels

December 27th, 2009
8:39 am

Mornin’.

This guy is very matter-of-fact about it, but I suspect it’s what most of us would’ve attempted to have done under the circumstances, and it’s how we’d likely describe the experience.

Anyway, what he and others accomplished, it does qualify as heroic under the circumstances, so kudos to this Dutchman and those who lent a hand.

(wasn’t it a Frenchman who initially subdued the shoe bomber years back? might go check on that…)

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December 27th, 2009
8:40 am

With one of the busiest travel periods of the year coming just two days after an attempted terrorist attack aboard a Northwest Airlines flight, travelers around the world prepared for long security lines and unexpected safety measures designed to surprise terrorists. -Urinal

Why do I know that this means that more elderly Americans will be getting strip searched?

Or that some little toddler will have her bottle ripped from her hands and emptied onto the floor?

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
8:43 am

“If only the TSA could have done their job”

Not that load of BS again. You still didn’t answer whether or not TSA should be dispatched to foreign lands to screen all flights headed to the US. I’m guessing from that answer, you think they need to be sent abroad.

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December 27th, 2009
8:44 am

Abdulmutallab, who had a valid U.S. visa, appeared on the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment database maintained by the U.S. National Counterterrorism Center, said a U.S. official who received a briefing. Containing some 550,000 names, the database includes people with known or suspected ties to a terrorist organization. However, it is not a list that would prohibit a person from boarding a U.S.-bound airplane.-Urinal

Well, of course it wouldn’t.

What’s the big deal having ties to a terrorist group?

As far as we have our heads up our rear ends, Jasper Schuringa is lucky he didn’t float down to Detroit in pieces.

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
8:45 am

sfd

The way I see it is:

a) You sit on the plane and do nothing and wait to meet your maker,

or

b) You throw caution to the wind, and do what you have to do to survive.

I’m all for option b.

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December 27th, 2009
8:46 am

8:44 is a start, SoCo, you on the list, you no fly with civilized people. Row, row, row your boat if you want to go to Detroit.

Plain and simple common sense.

Try it some time.

stands for decibels

December 27th, 2009
8:47 am

Not that load of BS again.

You’ll eventually come to learn the wisdom of scrolling past the troll-pest’s rants.

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
8:51 am

Whiner

Are you on the list? You seem to use quite a few of those buzz words in your posting. Are you sure the NSA or FBI aren’t watching you?

You talking about trying common sense? Where are the hidden cameras, because I know I’m on some hidden camera show. This must be America’s Funniest Internet Postings Show or something.

hahaha

stands for decibels

December 27th, 2009
8:52 am

You throw caution to the wind, and do what you have to do to survive.

You make it sound as if there’s a lot of deliberation going on at such fight or flight moments. Based on my own experience and those recalled by others, a lot of it’s pretty involuntary; the thinking comes later.

jt

December 27th, 2009
8:52 am

Usually these europeans are a little quicker to act because Americans have to FIRST consider a potential lawsuit.

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December 27th, 2009
8:57 am

SoCo- I would prefer that the TSA erred on the side of caution. I am of the opinion that the scenario of two hundred innocent people raining down from the sky is not preferable to a lackadaisical attitude towards one’s sworn duties.

If I appear on the list, then I don’t fly until I correct the list.

stands for decibels

December 27th, 2009
8:58 am

One last thing off-topic before running–the dead-tree Sunday AJC had a pretty good side-by-side comparison of what’s to be reconciled between the House and Senate HCR bills.

The same thing appears to be posted here online although it is, inexplicably, not side-by-side…

http://www.ajc.com/business/a-comparison-of-house-257201.html?cxntlid=daylf_tpcr

Just fyi.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
9:00 am

Well, here’s my idea.

Fly Naked.

Ok, the airlines could issue each passenger a flight suit – some kind of combination of scrubs and a prison jumpsuit. After a full search of course.

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December 27th, 2009
9:05 am

sfd- Believe me, I pre flight profile at the gate and on the tarmac before take off. I usually know where the air marshall is by their attire and carry on bag. Knowing full well the lack of seriousness and PC ignorance our government is inflicted with, I plan on taking matters into my own hands, should the need arise.

No flaming exit for the Reporter, if I have any say in it.

Saw a dude in a turbin on one flight, in the row next to me, start praying upon take off, and also noticed that several American women were also praying.

I relaxed and enjoyed the flight.

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
9:09 am

sfd

Not much time for deliberation. It’s more like you described. You either go or don’t go. I’d like to think that with the training I’ve gone thru, I’d be on autopilot while unleashing the a$$whipping of all a$$whippings on that plane. I’d probably have to make an appology or two afterwards, because if it moves, I’m gonna punch it into oblivion.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
9:14 am

Carefull SoCo and dB….

When I suggested something similar yesterday I (yes dear sweet old Mrs. G) got accused
of being a vigilante…by folks who wouldn’t commit to at least try and stop the bad guys from
lighting up!

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
9:18 am

Mrs. G

I saw that, and I laughed my butt off. The image I saw was you jumping over seats to save the hides of the very ones who accused you.

Poetic Justice!

Road Scholar

December 27th, 2009
9:23 am

Whiner: The tone of your post makes it sound like you are looking forward to a whole body strip! Let’s make sure you are on the anal search list! Now are you wanting to pay for increased security?

jt: Americans aren’t considering the legal ramifications, but are worried about there own individual safety. While we talk big (Bomb, bomb, bomb,…) most non military Americans would wait until someone took care of it for them. We’re both chicken and spoiled.

Thank God that the passengers and crew are safe.

Would you be happy on going on vacation, you are thrust into a position repeatedly answering the same questions (and some of them dumb)from the media?

Taxpayer

December 27th, 2009
9:25 am

I see Andy is still trying to get his rise by blaming the lack of a successful terrorist attack on the TSA or whatever. I don’t even want to know who he blames for 9/11 and what blame he places on them. Ewwwwwww.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
9:27 am

SoCo

It would be just my luck to be traveling with my best purse (a gift, I’d never pay that!).

I pity the terrorist who forces me to beat him about the head and shoulders with my 10 year old coach bag.

Michael W.

December 27th, 2009
9:30 am

The bomb was a dud. End of story. It’s not like the terrorist had a box cutter on him. The only danger for the passengers would have been if they had stumbled across this blog.

The Charlie Sheen story is more interesting. Hell, “Who killed Kirk Robbin” is a more interesting case.

morons.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
9:30 am

here’s an interesting take….

Obama and his team obviously prefer a far more mature, strategic approach. It’s about projecting a sense of calm and control. It’s about choosing not to elevate some lunatic thug who set himself on fire.

Indeed, notice the pattern throughout the year. The Obama administration has taken out Saleh al-Somali, Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, and Baitullah Mehsud, while taking suspected terrorists Najibullah Zazi, Talib Islam, and Hosam Maher Husein Smadi into custody before they could launch potential attacks.

In each case, there were no high-profile press conferences, no public chest-thumping, no desire to politicize the counter-terrorism successes. Indeed, most of the country probably never heard a word about any of these developments.

It’s about competent and effective leadership, and it’s what the country was sorely lacking up until 11 months ago.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_12/021643.php

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
9:32 am

Michael W

Morons?

So early on a Sunday morning?

Bless your heart.

Road Scholar

December 27th, 2009
9:33 am

Jay, I want to congratulate you on being the only blog manager of actually working this weekend. Wooten posted once but the others are on vacation or furlough it seems. Maybe you drew the short straw….but it is appreciated.

Mrs G: No disrespect, but I’m not sure I want to see someone naked on an airline flight! Besides, sitting in the molded plastic chairs at the gate before departure may have a “chilling ” affect!

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
9:36 am

Road

The jumpsuits would be issued with blinders…..

TnGelding

December 27th, 2009
9:37 am

Dutchman? Nah, it had to be a red-blooded American!

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December 27th, 2009
8:34 am

Grow up and get real! Maybe they should recruit you to shape everyone up and implement fool-proof procedures. The sheer volume of government work is overwhelming.

AmVet

December 27th, 2009
9:38 am

As I said earlier, the worst of these Old White Guys from Dixie are just upset that the attempt wasn’t successful. It would have made their Holiday Season had they gotten the opportunity to “blame” the Uppity Mongrel for a downed airliner. And a few hundred dead innocent people is no big deal to them…

The conned – dumb and yellow. Not a good combo…

@@

December 27th, 2009
9:45 am

Remembering Todd Beamer, hero on Flight 93.

Remembering Tianamen Square

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
9:54 am

Michael W

Google “Bojinka Plot” and see how those duds can actually be more dangerous than an actual explosion.

mike

December 27th, 2009
9:54 am

AmVet –

“As I said earlier, the worst of these Old White Guys from Dixie are just upset that the attempt wasn’t successful”

What an ignorant and hateful statement. Haven’t been here in a while, but it is nice to see that mindless partisanship is still driving folks to view any serious national problem as an opportunity to demonize people who don’t share their narrow minded views.

Of course, we have Whiner demonstrating that this ignorant activity is as popular with mindless partisans on both sides of the ideological divide. Folks like Whiner and you are what is wrong with this country, not liberals or conservatives.

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December 27th, 2009
9:57 am

Grow up and get real! Maybe they should recruit you to shape everyone up and implement fool-proof procedures. The sheer volume of government work is overwhelming.

To this excuse we can now substitute the word “health care.”

Sorry, Mr. Smith, about the death of your wife but we were just “overwhelmed.”

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
10:06 am

Mrs. G

As far as I have seen, a Coach bag is not on the banned item list nor does it have to be registered as a deadly weapon. Bash’em and exchange the bag because of a found defect. ;)

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
10:07 am

“You still didn’t answer whether or not TSA should be dispatched to foreign lands to screen all flights headed to the US.”

You have to give him a break on this…if he can’t come up with a good insult, or a good “twist” – he just doesn’t answer. So chalk it up to a failure of bad will.

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December 27th, 2009
10:10 am

mike- Simpletons like you are what is “wrong with this country.”

Your position is that anti Americanism and the liberal agenda can be compromised with and mine is that they can’t. For you to call me extreme because of a political disagreement only illustrates the narrow comprehension abilities of your puny little mind.

You are more than welcome to produce evidence and well thought out logic proving my “extremism,” but I know that mentally unable to, so now I return you to relative obscurity.

buh bye!

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
10:13 am

Doggone

Sometimes it’s good to put the shoe on the other foot. I’ve seen him question Jay over and over again, so I feel that it’s ok to do the same to him. If he chooses not to answer, it only goes towards his credibility, not mine.

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
10:15 am

“If he chooses not to answer, it only goes towards his credibility, not mine”

Quite right! But he thinks he’s being “firm” and “uncompromising.” And, BTW, he never answered MY question about the charges against those Navy Seals either.

godless heathen

December 27th, 2009
10:18 am

And where was Obama? Vacationing in HI while our country was under attack!! And he still hasn’t rushed home to defend the Homeland. Shameful.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

December 27th, 2009
10:20 am

Well, amen to Mrs. G. Buck-nekkid is the way to fly. If they’re going to keep bringing bombs and knifes on the planes, then take their hiding places away.

I don’t fly myself and I don’t go places where I can’t drive to, but it’s time to nip this plane stuff in the bud. No fooling around. You don’t just fine somebody for bringing dope with them, you send them straight to prison. You don’t send people to prison if you can give them the Death Penalty. It’s the Conservative way. So I say don’t even show up at a airport wearing clothes. If you can’t stand somebody looking at you when you’re nekkid, then stay home.

That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Have a good Sabbath everybody and I hope everybody went to church. You need to wear clothes there, of course. Only a prevert would show up at church nekkid.

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
10:20 am

“And where was Obama? Vacationing in HI ”

And not flying willy-nilly all over the country dodging non-existent terrorists in planes out to “get him”

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
10:21 am

What he thinks only matters in his mind, and I’ve noticed is not always the same sentiment that other conservative minds here agree to. I guess it’s all in perception. A bag of gas to one person can be a balloon to someone else.

And, I have noticed that he never answered your question. I will give him credit on mine for starting an answer @8:44, even though I don’t know how it actually pertains to my question.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
10:21 am

Hawaii ….1/50th of our homeland since 1959.

kayaker 71

December 27th, 2009
10:21 am

The El Al model of security has worked well over the years to prevent possible terrorist acts on their aircraft. They feel that they are in constant danger of some Arab blowing up one of their planes. We are just not that scared yet. It will take several acts of violence aboard American aircraft to convince the American flyer that his security is more important than his inconvenience.

getalife

December 27th, 2009
10:21 am

Andy wants everybody to remove their underwear and put it in the tray.

Ew.

The full body scan might have caught it bit doubt other countries will use it.

We are all Israelis now.

Man up Andy like Jasper.

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
10:22 am

RC

I can’t work all day looking at nekkid people. Can they at least wear underwear?

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
10:25 am

kayaker

I can definitely agree with you on the El Al model. It would change air travel drastically here, and I’m not too sure the business community would embrace it with open arms. I think the average traveler would assimilate to that model a lot better and faster than the business traveler, but that’s only from observations and interactions with the traveling public that I have personally experienced.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
10:26 am

How about we anesthetize all passengers?
A knock out drop in your complimentray coffee tea or milk, and you wake up at your destination on the luggage carousel ready to be picked up.

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
10:27 am

“It will take several acts of violence aboard American aircraft to convince the American flyer that his security is more important than his inconvenience”

Sounds good to me. Let’s nationalize all the airlines and put the government in charge of security on ALL of the flights in and out of the US. Of course, we’d have to raise taxes to pay for it…or us the “conservative model” and borrow more from China. But hey! What’s a few more billion when our security is at stake and there are frightened people to protect.

josef nix

December 27th, 2009
10:29 am

And a cheery good a.m. to all y’all too!

Mrs. G–looks like you at least got up on the right (correct, that is!) side of the bed…. Let me know, though, if you and redneck convert are ever on the same flight! :-)

AmVet– there you go again, bashing Dixie…I’d rather be an old white guy here with a projected temp in the 50s and a bright sunny day than an old white guy shoveling snow someplace else…be careful though when up there and don’t eat the yellow snow, jus’ come on back home and p*ss in the wind…

Road Scholar–The Bruin does earn his keep…

SoCo–what would we do? Who knows until confronted. I’ve been in the position, though not with so many lives at stake, and did knock the gun out of the fellow’s hand and get him to the ground. Truth be told, it was done and over with before I even knew what was going on. I shook like a Waring blender for a good 30 minutes afterwards! When the cops got there they thought I was the intended victim!

As for our hero, he is that for a fact. Calm, cool and collected, modest and self-effacing….

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
10:30 am

I don’t think the airlines would have to be nationalized, but we’d have to forge some serious agreements with the countries we fly to to allow for the heavily armed and trained security personnel. Of course, we’d have to hire more security officers and arm and train them to defend against any and all terroristic threats.

Bosch

December 27th, 2009
10:31 am

Happy Third Day of Christmas!

I’m all for the full body scan – those who Xray everything – not sure if they are being used yet – SoCo? Anyway, I’d be all for stripping down to the skinnies if you have to to keep something like this happening. I’m one of those folks that sets off the security bleeper everytime – never fails. My dad is like that too. I think we have metal in our blood. Whenever we fly together we have to account for “move over here please” time. It’s all good though.

kayaker 71

December 27th, 2009
10:32 am

SoCo,

We are just not that concerned. The American people who fly are just not convinced that the threat is worth the extra time that it would take to make aircraft secure. The profiling issue is one of the greatest problems facing the security community. It ties the hands of those who would keep us safe. We are so concerned about being politically correct and not offending someone that we sacrifice one of the basic tenents of a secure aircraft……. if you go duck hunting, it is better to go where the ducks are. Look at it, explore the obvious and get on with it.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

December 27th, 2009
10:32 am

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
10:22 am
RC

I can’t work all day looking at nekkid people. Can they at least wear underwear?

Well, leave it to a librul to whine. How you going to do your job if people show up with clothes on? There could be anything in them underwear. Buck-nekkid, is what me and Mrs. G. say. If you can’t take it, there’s plenty of people out there that could use your job.

Vinny

December 27th, 2009
10:33 am

The blame for this incident lies squarely at the feet of Obama. The enemy sees weakness in our CIC and will exploit it.

@@

December 27th, 2009
10:33 am

Mrs. Maryam Rajavi: Today’s uprising signal inevitable and imminent downfall of mullahs

Mrs. Rajavi reminded the international community, particularly the United States and the European Union, that the clerical regime is on its way out and that the future belongs to the Iranian people and the Resistance. Negotiations and trade with, and appeasement of the medieval regime are futile and will only embolden the mullahs in their suppression and killing of the Iranian people.

I’ve seen references to ^^^ that statement all over the internet. While the Iranian people are fighting against the regime, and dying in the process….we….the U.S. are still offering to negotiate.

getalife

December 27th, 2009
10:35 am

Yeah vinny,

Look for more air strikes in Yemen from our weak CiC.

That argument is silly.

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
10:38 am

Bosch

They’re being used as far as I know. I don’t know how many are in use or how many airports have them. There was a big hubbub about using them when they were first available because of “privacy” issues. I think this incident has opened up a few more eyes when it comes to that technology. I got to see how it works, and I think it should be the norm for travel security.

kayaker

I hope it doesn’t come to the way you described it, but I’ve thought that all along. There’s quite a few books I’ve read on security, and it’s amazing what trained experts and the general traveler alike have been able to pick up on security efforts. The reactive model that we’ve been using for the last 20-40 years needs to be replaced with a proactive approach. The other way to defeat their attempts other than giving them a ride on a cruise missile is to stay one step ahead of them.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
10:38 am

vinny

aye, youse guys tink dat?

Bosch

December 27th, 2009
10:39 am

“The blame for this incident lies squarely at the feet of Obama.”

Yeah, Vinny, right. :roll:

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
10:39 am

RC

If they’re coming nekkid, you’re gonna have to work overtime. I’ll be drinking plenty of PBR to get those images out of my head everyday.

getalife

December 27th, 2009
10:40 am

Mrs. G.

Fahgetaboudit.

josef nix

December 27th, 2009
10:41 am

Honolulu–partly cloudy, high 81, low 67
Washington, DC–partly cloudy, high 51, low 35

I think I’d probably be more inclined to trust the decisions made in the former than the latter city in the homeland…

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
10:41 am

“we….the U.S. are still offering to negotiate.”

Oh sure, because isolating Cuba has just worked SO well…hasn’t it. Look how FREE the Cubans are.

Bosch

December 27th, 2009
10:41 am

SoCo,

I’m one of those who thinks that privacy should go out the window when you are flying. People were all up in arms because they didn’t want people to see them naked or virtually naked. I’d much rather let someone see me naked than to get blown to bits on a plane – I think that would somehow suck more.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
10:49 am

SoCo

What about biometric data?

I wee bit of the magical mystical DNA my Pop gave me spliced into a travelers ID?

Bosch

My Pop sent me a hot pink snuggly. I got a smile on my face a mile wide. It’s like a flaming silly bear hug. Wearing it backwards and it’s like a cape! Hope you had some merry moments too.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

December 27th, 2009
10:50 am

If they’re coming nekkid, you’re gonna have to work overtime.

Well, you’re looking at this the wrong way. Think about it. For every Sister Dusty or fat Whiner, you get a @@. I bet Wyld Bill would pay you a fortune just to help you out. You could retire in six months.

Dave

December 27th, 2009
10:51 am

I say beat the crap out of the guy, hog tie him and throw him off as you pass over the great lake!

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

December 27th, 2009
10:53 am

Look for more air strikes in Yemen from our weak CiC.

At one time, not too long ago, air strikes in Yemen would have “created” more terrorists, according to some.

And you somes know who you are.

So tell us, what exactly has changed that it no longer does?

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
10:54 am

I don’t know, maybe it’s just me…but this whole situation has a feel of “misdirection” about it. Keep the fools watching airplanes while Al Qaeda is putting together plans for a “new and different” attack. If I was in one of the front-line watchdog communities…I’d be keeping a close ear to the ground for rumors of a different kind of attack.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
10:55 am

ANdy

The folks behind the wheel.

Bosch

December 27th, 2009
11:00 am

Mrs. G.

A hot pink snuggie? Wow, that’s something. I’m jealous! Did your Pop have a good one? Did Joe get a squeaky toy pork chop? Is he still in the dog house (snicker, snicker) about the tree?

Yes, we had a great Christmas – still celebrating, as Christmas is twelve days. I got the books I wanted, “The Family” and the new Thomas Pynchon book. I’m reading the Pynchon book first.

theboogins

December 27th, 2009
11:02 am

Can’t wait until some liberal trial lawyer tries to sue him for injuring that nice young man from Nigeria.

Bosch

December 27th, 2009
11:02 am

Doggone,

I think that’s been the case for 8 years now.

Bosch

December 27th, 2009
11:03 am

the boogins,

“Can’t wait until some liberal trial lawyer tries to sue him for injuring that nice young man from Nigeria.”

Yeah, right. :roll:

@@

December 27th, 2009
11:03 am

On Saturday, a American official revealed the U.S. had known about Abdulmutallab’s possible ties to terrorist groups for at least two years.–CBS

WASHINGTON, May 15, 2002 — The White House said tonight that President Bush had been warned by American intelligence agencies in early August that Osama bin Laden was seeking to hijack aircraft but that the warnings did not contemplate the possibility that the hijackers would turn the planes into guided missiles for a terrorist attack.–NYT

Bill Clinton received warnings too, but the only one “the other side” attacked was Bush!!?!!

Hmmmmmmm

Maybe someone can explain to me why that is?

Doggone:

I’m conveying the protestations of the Iranian people. I seriously doubt they’re giving much thought to what’s going on in Cuba ’bout now. Cuban exiles here in America are though.

You guys were all over their initial protests. Now they’re of no interest to you?

You people are shallow.

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
11:06 am

“I think that’s been the case for 8 years now”

I think the last 8 years Al Qaeda has been perfecting it’s land based travel disruptions. For at least that last 2 years I’ve been expecting a series of IED type attacks on our interstate or train systems. We’ve given them a lot of practice in Iraq, it won’t surprise me if they start using it.

Bronco

December 27th, 2009
11:08 am

That fruitcake wanted the christians to rain down from the sky and he could be a big man at the Islamic meetings going on in Detroit. I have a great idea anytime a potential bomber is subdued in flight. Slow down the speed, lower the altitude, open a door and throw the MF out. A few times doing this and maybe they would stay in their rat hole in Yemen where they belong

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
11:10 am

“You guys were all over their initial protests. Now they’re of no interest to you?”

You have no clue as to what interested me about their protests and what doesn’t. Your crystal ball needs polishing…or you need to polish your skills in reading it. One or the other, or both.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 27th, 2009
11:12 am

Funny, we’re just laying around here this morning, counting our blessings, and on the teevee comes a test of the emergency broadcast system. Makes ya’ think.

I will not live fearfully and I hope none of you will. Again, we are all soldiers in this battle. All of us have duty. Even if all they can do is be brave.

And thankful….

Rightwing Troll

December 27th, 2009
11:12 am

“You’ll eventually come to learn the wisdom of scrolling past the troll-pest’s rants.”

Puhhhhleeeeze… Andy’s posts are what make this place so much fun. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel…

And this little nugget of wisdom is from Andy’s cousin:
“The blame for this incident lies squarely at the feet of Obama. The enemy sees weakness in our CIC and will exploit it.”

So if this little fizzle of a terror attack is porportional to our CIC’s weakness, then what does that say about the attacks on W’s watch? Hmmmmmmmmm? mmmmmmm mmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
11:17 am

“A few times doing this and maybe they would stay in their rat hole in Yemen where they belong”

and here you have, clearly displayed, the mind-set that Al Qaeda exploits to recruit their “converts.” They play on an undirected anger, and give it direction. All Bronco needs is someone to give HIM direction and he might be the next bomber taking out a building in Oklahoma City.

Southern Comfort

December 27th, 2009
11:21 am

RC

You make a good point. I did see Miss Venezuela come thru a couple of weeks ago.

Mrs. G

No traveler’s ID thru DNA, but if you use credit cards to reserve tickets, cars, etc… there’s an electronic trail floating around. And then there’s this program:

http://www.dhs.gov/files/programs/gc_1208531081211.shtm

Doggone @ 10:54

We (me and my fellow officers) got you covered on that.

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
11:23 am

“We (me and my fellow officers) got you covered on that.”

I’m sure you do! And I’m also sure that if anything comes up on the radar and is reported to THIS President, he won’t brush off the messenger with a “you covered your ass” comment.

AmVet

December 27th, 2009
11:24 am

PALM BEACH, Fla. — Police say Ivana Trump has been escorted off a plane in Florida after she became belligerent when children were running and screaming in the aisles.

Authorities say the first ex-wife of billionaire Donald Trump cursed at the children Saturday, and when flight attendants on the New York-bound plane tried to calm her, she became even more aggravated.

Her spokeswoman, Catherine Saxton, did not immediately return a telephone message. Trump filed for divorce from her fourth husband earlier this month.

She has not been charged in the incident at Palm Beach International Airport.

Palm Beach County sheriff’s deputies asked Trump to voluntarily exit the plane, but they said she refused. She was then escorted off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG8ubKnwe08

@@

December 27th, 2009
11:29 am

You have no clue as to what interested me about their protests and what doesn’t.

“The other side’s” most ^^^ overly used response. I think I’ll start calling it a BB (Bosch Bash) .

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
11:34 am

“The other side’s” most ^^^ overly used response

Maybe that’s because your “side” is overly dependent on insults and non-existent powers of mindreading. When all you have is insults, you got NOTHING.

DAVID

December 27th, 2009
11:36 am

JAY……….Your man in the WHITE HOUSE…………doesn’t even believe there is a terror threat…….So don’t sound sooooooo concerned…….YOU GUY IS UP TO SPEED…

Road Scholar

December 27th, 2009
11:37 am

Mrs G: “How about we anesthetize all passengers?
A knock out drop in your complimentray coffee tea or milk, and you wake up at your destination on the luggage carousel ready to be picked up.”

Don’t give Delta another way of overcharging for their flights, another tack on charge! Besides, they’d lose the bodies on the way to the luggage caraseul!

I am truely disappointed in President Obama. I didn’t get my drone plane with the anti-personnel missles I had asked for. Just the perfect “gift” for some of these bloggers! The missles, not the plane!

Oh, and last time I checked, he does not work for the TSA!

DoggoneGA

December 27th, 2009
11:40 am

“Your man in the WHITE HOUSE…………doesn’t even believe there is a terror threat”

Does anyone know where this originated? I’ve seen others make this same claim, but I haven’t been able to find the quote (if there is one) that it’s based on.

Road Scholar

December 27th, 2009
11:41 am

Put the guy in the same cell as Ivana Trump. Within an hour he will spill his guts! Then drop him into the Great Lakes! Is that why they’re great? Vinny, you don’t need to comment, since this may indict you about previous “rides”! Mama mia!

Frequent Flyboy

December 27th, 2009
11:43 am

Quite a holiday week for Delta — first they have to call out the riot police at JFK to quell angry stranded passengers in the Delta terminal; then one of their jets is almost crash-landed by a known bad guy they allowed to board at Schipol, and lastly, Ivana Trump gets dragged off a plane because of noisy brats allowed to wreak havoc in first class. Obviously, only one of these really matters. Delta lives in a dream world that people would really rather fly to Mumbai than Milwaukee.

Frequent Flyboy

December 27th, 2009
11:47 am

Isn’t it interesting that while every web page in the world is blaring the latest details on DL 253 – the AJC headline I found this morning was the cancellation of a silly bike race. Of course, the AJC thinks all the world’s problems could be solved at the Carter Center.

Frequent Flyboy

December 27th, 2009
11:50 am

Let’s stop blaming Bush or Obama – it’s not an US problem, it’s a THEM problem. Let’s save the bitterness for health care and agree to employ a TOUGH head of DHS to protect US from THEM. Napolitano is a joke, Chertoff did alright but Ridge was a buffoon. Let’s put a PRO not a politician in this job.

josef nix

December 27th, 2009
11:50 am

Frequent Flyboy

“Of course, the AJC thinks all the world’s problems could be solved at the Carter Center.”

One al Het and it’ll be all right…

Bosch

December 27th, 2009
11:51 am

I think all those who got crystal balls for Christmas need to read the instruction manuals a bit more carefully.

@@

December 27th, 2009
11:51 am

Doggone:

Well BooHoo! ‘Ya wanna go up and read your posts from 10:07 on?

A bit overly sensitive too?

Who cares whether you find my posts insulting? Certainly not me!

Liberals=Morons

December 27th, 2009
11:52 am

You bleeding heart liberals (Jay) think the terror threat has passed and I hope this proves that there are still plenty of terrorists out there that want Americans dead! We need to beef up security and our borders to prevent these animals from entering our country. We must use profiling to make this country safer.

Irishmafia

December 27th, 2009
11:52 am

Thank God he wasn’t a liberal or he would have wet his panties and broke down crying like a little girl

josef nix

December 27th, 2009
11:53 am

Frequent Flyboy

Chertoff did okay? Tell that to a lot of folks down in NOLA…