Actors who play heroes, and heroes who turn actor

After watching “It’s a Wonderful Life” Christmas Eve, family conversation turned to Jimmy Stewart. I noted to the kids (well, not so much kids any more) that to my knowledge, Stewart was the only pre-war Hollywood type who actually saw combat in WWII, flying numerous bombing missions over Germany (I didn’t realize until looking it up that Stewart had enlisted before Pearl Harbor),

Of course, a lot of people who became stars in the late ’40s and ’50s came out of combat in the war, people such as Glenn Ford, Lee Marvin and of course Audie Murphy. (The late very much alive Charles Durning, who played the governor in “Oh Brother Where Art Thou”), was quite the hero himself.) One of the girls brought up the post-war drama “The Best Years of Our Lives,” for which multiple amputee Harold Russell won Best Supporting Actor. (For a pretty amazing and updated version of that story, see the tale of Spec. Brandon Marrocco.)

But it got me to thinking: Did any actors of the ’60s, ’70s and ’80s serve in Vietnam? Of all the hundreds of thousands of men who rotated through that war, did any of them emerge later as stars? I can’t think of any, which maybe tells you something about that war and how this country fought it.

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Southern Comfort

December 26th, 2009
3:30 pm

Jay

Here’s your Vietnam Vet:

http://www.rleeermey.com/about.php

And of course, one of the most famous speeches he’s given on film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Nf1MK7lts&feature=PlayList&p=A1E64F5465F7BF53&index=5

Southern Comfort

December 26th, 2009
3:32 pm

And in the Christmas spirit, here’s a redux of part of that scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydF9rHC02Hg

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
3:55 pm

A pretty good list of those who served in WWII

http://www.wyolife.com/KerryFest/WWII%20Actors.htm

As a sidelight here, the War Department actively discouraged Hollywood actors from active duty service maintaining they were more needed for propaganda purposes to boost morale.

Hard Right Hook

December 26th, 2009
3:57 pm

Jimmy Stewart was not only involved in “bombing missions,” he was Pilot in Command of a B-17, flying for the 8th Army Air Corps. Those were some of the bravest men that ever flew.

Bud Wiser

December 26th, 2009
4:14 pm

In 1936, Johnstown, PA, was hit by its second devastating flood in less than 50 years. The water rose 14 feet in some areas, over 2 dozen people were killed, and 77 buildings were destroyed – resulting in total property damage estimated at over $40 million.

To help the town rebuild, the government levied a temporary 10 percent tax on all alcohol sales across the state, with the proceeds earmarked to help flood victims get back on their feet.

It worked. A lot of money was raised and the town eventually began to recover.

Seventy three years later, many of the Johnstown flood victims have long since died…but the Johnstown flood tax never did. In fact, over the years, greedy legislators have actuall raised the rate (twice), bringing it to an absurd 18 percent.

Since 1936, Pennsylvania has collected over $15.4 BILLION from this tax. The 2009-10 Pennsylvania Governor’s Executive Budget projects the tax will net about $283 million for the state next year alone, from a “temporary” tax originally imposed to pay for only $40 million in damages.

Why the history lesson?

The taxes imposed by this soon to be passed ‘health care reform’ will never go away, at least in our lifetimes.

And how many of you idiots think that the money collected from increased taxes here will be used on health care?

If you are one that does, do the world a favor and go ahead and jump off that high building right now, because that kind of stupidity already severely degrades the human collective gene pool, and with the morons in Congress right now, we don’t stand a chance of survival as long as they, and those that support them, still draw a breath.

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
4:20 pm

Clark Gable was another one who left his career to serve. He received the Air Medal and Distinguished Flying Cross. After being wounded, Hollywood put up a fuss to have their most valuable property reassigned to non combat duty.

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December 26th, 2009
4:48 pm

World War II was fought across several continents, against an axis of many different countries and involved more than 13,500,000 US serviceman, but if you are into lame comparisons of wars that you did not agree with, by all means, have at it.

And my contribution for Vietnam Vet who was into acting, I introduce to you Hanoi Jane Fonda, although she fought for the other side, I’m not sure if that disqualifies?

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December 26th, 2009
4:50 pm

I’ve been away for a few, did anymore terrorists attack us while I was gone?

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
4:52 pm

(The late Charles Durning

That’s gonna be news to Charles Durning and his family unless “late” means something other than what I think it does. He was also great as the Governor in Best Little W’house in Texas.

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
4:53 pm

Dennis Franz served in Vietnam with the 82nd Airborne…

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
4:54 pm

Does service in the Vietnam era elsewhere count? If so, let’s not forget Kris Kristofferson–Germany…

Pogo

December 26th, 2009
5:01 pm

Bud, unfortunately, you are right. Everyone should pray for the children because their future has already been sold out by that band of arrogant fools we call the US Government. Perpetual servitude to “The State” has already been written into their future without them even knowing or understanding why. They will never know even limited freedom, on the illusion of it. We boomers did have a certain amount of freedom and we were fortunate to have been born when we were.

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 26th, 2009
5:02 pm

Several members of the Marshall Tucker Band’s original lineup were Vietnam vets. Toy Caldwell was in the Marines and I believe got a Purple Heart, if I remember correctly.

Neville Brand, who became an actor after his stint in WWII, received a Silver Star.

For NASCAR fans, long time car owner and crew chief Bud Moore was a decorated WWII veteran.

And Ted Williams flew over 30 combat missions in the Korean War. In total he lost close to 5 years from his baseball career, most of which would have been in his prime. Imagine the numbers he would have put up in those 5 years.

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December 26th, 2009
5:03 pm

I give to you, after careful and thoughtful deliberations, the 2009 Duh Report Man of the Year, applause please-

India Governor, 86, Resigns After 3-Woman Sex Tape

That’s what I’m talking about, old dude.

@@

December 26th, 2009
5:09 pm

Don’t know about WWII, but James Garner fought in the Korean War.

@@

December 26th, 2009
5:14 pm

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
5:15 pm

Andy,

At least your 86 year old only resigned. Jay B bumped off an 86 year old in his column.

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 26th, 2009
5:16 pm

The father of Peter Ustinov worked with MI5 in Britian during WWII.

Julia Child worked with the OSS and Jacques Cousteau conducted underground missions for the French. His brother however was a collaborator.

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
5:20 pm

Tom Selleck served in the Watts riots.

@@

December 26th, 2009
5:34 pm

jay, you overlooked a woman. Nancy Kulp (sp?) served as a WAVE lieutenant during World War II, specializing in electronics.

Typical male.

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
5:34 pm

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
5:48 pm

Just a little link for all y’all Arab-Muslim bashers…

http://www.apaam.org/index.html

@@

December 26th, 2009
5:54 pm

Did anyone mention Paul Newman? I didn’t know he served in WWII.

Most Americans know that actor Paul Newman had an Academy Award to his
credit, but few know his list of awards also includes a Navy Combat
Action Ribbon and the coveted Combat Aircrew Wings he got while serving
as an aviation radioman and aerial gunner during World War II.

I don’t think Hollywood was producing men during Vietnam. Crankin’ ‘em up, but not crankin’ ‘em out.

@@

December 26th, 2009
6:01 pm

Harvey Keitel, a marine who served in Lebanon.

@@

December 26th, 2009
6:08 pm

Johnny Carson admitted to the U.S. Navy’s V-12 officer training program in 1943 and commissioned as an ensign in 1945, Johnny Carson reported for duty aboard the USS Pennsylvania on Aug. 14, just two days after the battleship had been hit by a kamikaze. As the new ensign on board, Carson was detailed to supervise the recovery of the bodies of sailors killed in the attack. He left the service in 1946.

I did not know that. Hmmmm

@@

December 26th, 2009
6:23 pm

Two of my brother’s favorite actors, Richard Jaeckel served in the United States Navy from 1944 to 1949. Aldo Ray, in 1944, at the age of eighteen, Ray entered the Navy, where he served as a Frogman until 1946 and saw action at Okinawa with UDT-17.

Jaeckel was in a movie about a family of loggers. He got trapped under a tree in the river. His brother, trying to keep him alive until help came, was transferring air mouth to mouth. Jaeckel started laughing and drowned. My brother has that movie on video. Can’t remember the name of it.

Am I talking to myself? Probably, but who cares?

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
6:28 pm

@@
I’m here and thanks for the link to the actor now in Afghanistan…

Is the movie you’re trying to recall “Sometimes a Great Notion?”

Jenifer

December 26th, 2009
6:28 pm

Not Hollywoodites, but I found this list interesting.

http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
6:33 pm

josef,

I was just about to ask if she meant Sometimes a Great Notion too so I think we’re onto something.

@@

December 26th, 2009
6:37 pm

josef:

That’s it! I googled. I remember watching it with my brother. It really was a good movie…directed by Paul Newman.

@@

December 26th, 2009
6:37 pm

You guys are good! Did either of you see it?

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
6:38 pm

RW, @@

Great movie and the book Kesey’s best in my opinion…

Bud Wiser

December 26th, 2009
6:38 pm

Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon are breaking up their unwed with children status after 23 years.

I only mention it because I believe it was Robbins that spat on (or at) some soldier returning home at some sort of protest rally in New Jersey from Gulf War I.

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
6:45 pm

Jennifer–
Saw that one earlier– The Carpetbag Prince served in Occupied Alabama–does that count? :-)

@@

December 26th, 2009
6:45 pm

Tim Robbins is a dumbass. Sarandon probably wants to up her cougar status now that it’s become so trendy. They’re both airheads!

Tim Robbins is no Kurt Russell, that’s for DANG sure.

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
6:49 pm

Great! It’s now been posted here long enough that the number one item under a google news search for Charles Durning links back to this thread claiming he’s dead.

Don’t worry Mr. Durning, we know you’re still alive and working.

getalife

December 26th, 2009
7:01 pm

Meyer is leaving Florida due to health reasons.

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 26th, 2009
7:01 pm

And how many of you remember that this was the song from “Sometimes A Great Notion”?

http://www.rhapsody.com/player?type=undefined&id=tra.3873665&remote=undefined&page=undefined&pageregion=undefined&guid=undefined&from=undefined&__pcode=

My favorite scene in the movie was when Paul Newman cut the banker’s desk in half with a chain saw. He said, “It’s not a new truck but I sure as hell feel better”.

I’m thinking when the movie came to TV, they changed the title to “Never Give An Inch”. Anybody remember if that’s right?

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
7:05 pm

Hillbilly D,

According to IMDB when they reissued the movie in the US they called it Never Give an Inch. Apparently it was always called that in the UK.

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
7:06 pm

RW–

I had forgotten that scene! Also the theme song…thanks…I don’t remember it on the tee-vee…

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
7:07 pm

oops–sorry, that thank you should have been to hillbilly–

BTW–want me to poke the Bruin?

Scout

December 26th, 2009
7:08 pm

The Everly Brothers joined the Marines but I think it was a little early for Nam.

Most (not all) “artists” are lovers not fighters.

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
7:09 pm

RW Hillbilly Deluxe–

There you go josef, an honest to goodness fixed typo. :-)

Scout

December 26th, 2009
7:10 pm

Martha Ray and Hugh O’Brien used to come over to Nam. They would also go to the most remote firebases just to see the troops and shake hands. No performances ………. too dangerous. I believe she was even wounded once in a mortar attack.

Dusty

December 26th, 2009
7:11 pm

I don’t see many movies. I’m still in mourning for Clark Gable,

Rhett, Rhett, where are you, honey??

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
7:12 pm

<i<BTW–want me to poke the Bruin?

Is that something we really need to know about? Sounds like TMI to me.

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
7:12 pm

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 26th, 2009
7:15 pm

BTW–want me to poke the Bruin?

I guess that’s between you and the Bruin. :-D

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
7:15 pm

DUSTY

Rhett had little feet. Florence King said she always was taken by in Mitchell’s description of him, she found it necessary to make mention of his “small feet.” Ah, the things a writer could slip past the censors in those days! :-)

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
7:17 pm

RW. hillbilly–
Well, it DOES have to do with the thread, great actors, military service and acts of patriotism– John Wilkes Booth… :-)

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 26th, 2009
7:19 pm

Well I suppose since it’s relevent and all. Fire at will.

@@

December 26th, 2009
7:20 pm

Dusty

December 26th, 2009
7:22 pm

josef,

“Rhett had little feet.” Yes!!

That’s why women so loved to tickle his toesies.

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
7:23 pm

Hillbilly–
That 7:17 was it..! Not much more to say, there, but as for yours and RW’s insinuations there was more to the poke than intended…nasty minded’s what y’all are! Must admit, though, after that post of the photo from his youth, there was a time when he’d've got a second look…

Scout

December 26th, 2009
7:25 pm

………….. and in most of the Bob Hope shows, except for the wounded at the hospitals, the only troops who saw the shows were the reasr eschelon pogues (necessary to be sure) but seldom the infantry guys out there in the mud and the blood and the gear.

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 26th, 2009
7:27 pm

I think this conversation has outstripped my comprehension skills. I thought Josef was talkin’ about Jay.

Scout

December 26th, 2009
7:27 pm

P.S.

However, you’ve never lived until you have been on “in country” R&R at China Beach, half blitzed, listening to a Korean Gril “Go-Go” band in their very hort skirts and high white boots trying to sing a rendition of “Soul Man” …………………… you would have had to have been there …………..

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
7:28 pm

Hillbilly D,

I thought he was talking about Jay B too. Now I’m not sure who or what the Bruin is.

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
7:29 pm

Is a hort skirt kindof a hot/short mix?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

December 26th, 2009
7:29 pm

So what other forms of US transportation does the TSA wash it’s hands of?

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
7:31 pm

Hillbilly–it is Jay… you might have missed it, but he posted a photo of himself way back when…

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
7:32 pm

stepping out for a minute–back in few, it’s time for Allo Allo!

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 26th, 2009
7:34 pm

but he posted a photo of himself way back when…

Oh I’ve slept several times since that pic. Guess that’s why it went over my head.

So Dusty don’t like me cause I got big feet? ;-)

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 26th, 2009
7:35 pm

Allo Allo is back on the air?

Fred

December 26th, 2009
7:41 pm

Arab-Muslim bashers? Gee little Joey, is it “bashing” to point out that it wasn’t blond haired blue eyed Mormons from Utah that flew planes into the World trade Center? As for yourself, did I miss somewhere YOUR condemnation of that followers of the peaceful religion of islam that on Christmas Day (one of the 2 most Holy Dyas for Christians) who tried to blow up a plane landing in Detroit?

As long as ragheads stand silent when their brothers do murder, I will continue to lump them all together. And if it’s bashing to call the slimy murdering cowards, then I reckon I’m a basher.

I didn’t peruse the whole page you posted, but did it include the raghead that shot up Fort Hood in the proud serving members? Or is there a seperate website honoring him?

Dusty

December 26th, 2009
7:46 pm

Hillbilly,

Big feet? Better to climb them thar hills.

But…if you look like Rhett, I wouldn’t worry one bit about your feet.

DoggoneGA

December 26th, 2009
7:51 pm

“And if it’s bashing to call the slimy murdering cowards, then I reckon I’m a basher”

Yes, you are a basher. You are also fearful and too scared to be bothered to separate those who would pervert their religion, from all the millions who peacefully follow the true tenets of that religion.

FDR knew what he was talking about, when he talked about the power of fear: “So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory. I am convinced that you will again give that support to leadership in these critical days.”

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 26th, 2009
7:52 pm

Dusty

Well I don’t look like Rhett. I was checkin’ to see if you were awake.

getalife

December 26th, 2009
7:55 pm

“Health care. It’s the new NAFTA:

White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has been telling Democrats a win on the health issue will reverse the slide in public opinion, just as passage of another controversial proposal, the North American Free Trade Agreement, lifted President Bill Clinton in the polls.” Jane Hamsher

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 26th, 2009
7:56 pm

I thought the old NAFTA sucked.

Dusty

December 26th, 2009
7:57 pm

Relax, Fred.

Not only is Rhett missing, I don’t see Joey anywhere..

Dusty

December 26th, 2009
8:05 pm

I’m awake, Hillbilly, (Sorry you don’t look like Rhett.)

Somebody must have gotten Doggone going. She’s gone to preaching.

getalife

December 26th, 2009
8:09 pm

HD,

It did but one thing that has not changed is rahm and his corporatism.

Hillbilly Deluxe

December 26th, 2009
8:11 pm

getalife @ 8:09

Agreed on that. I just hope we don’t get suckered again like we did then.

TW

December 26th, 2009
8:18 pm

Seriously though, the RNC might want to see of it can get ‘A Christmas Carol’ pulled of the air next year. Kinda sucks all the air out of their self-perceived legitimacy :)

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

December 26th, 2009
8:23 pm

Duhggone- The “fear” manifests itself in those who do not condemn the violent acts of their brothers.

The “idiocy” manifests itself in those who blame the victims of said violent acts.

chuck

December 26th, 2009
8:28 pm

doggone,

It has NOTHING to do with FEAR, but it has EVERYTHING to do with REALITY. Certainly there are Muslims who don’t believe in jihad, BUT how many Muslims have you seen condemn the violence perpetrated by their “brothers”.

I’m not saying that we should round up Muslims and put them in concentration camps, but there probably are some Mosques that preach jihad against us ON OUR SOIL, that we ought to shut down. We should also probably stop passing out visas to citizens of certain countries, do a little “profiling” in airports, and take other steps to keep these terrorists on the DEFENSIVE rather than the OFFENSIVE.

getalife

December 26th, 2009
8:36 pm

Not sure if you can light this stuff but,

Here is what could happen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aleeJ9Rg4Hw

Dusty

December 26th, 2009
8:38 pm

TW, 8:18

You connect Republicans with “self perceived legitimacy”? Dear sir, I believe you are illegitimate.

chuck

December 26th, 2009
8:42 pm

Hey doggone, I posted these questions about the health care bill a couple of days ago and can’t seem to get an HONEST liberal to answer them. Why don’t you give it a try. Jay doesn’t seem to want to tackle them:

First, Since this bill will not take effect until 2013 (AFTER the next Presidential election), can you tell me what possible LEGITIMATE reason the dems could possibly have for voting on this bill in the middle of the night on CHRISTMAS EVE?

Second, Everybody admits that this bill “is not perfect”. If it isn’t going into effect for FOUR YEARS, why would you rush an IMPERFECT BILL to vote.

Third, Can any of you “honest” liberals explain to me the reasons for hiding this bill from members of your own party, the republicans, the press and the public? If this bill is so good for America, shouldn’t you be proud enough of it to “show it off” to the people you are supposedly helping?

Dusty

December 26th, 2009
8:43 pm

getalife,

Where do you get that stuff? My firewood is kinda green.

getalife

December 26th, 2009
8:46 pm

I’ll be your huckleberry.

One, for their corporate donors.

Two, for their corporate donors.

Three, not a lib but their corporate donors are very proud and happy.

getalife

December 26th, 2009
8:48 pm

Dusty,

That nut on the plane can tell you.

I have no idea and don’t want to know.

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
8:48 pm

DUSTY

I’m back!

Hillbilly

Comes on 7:30 on PBS/GPTV–Channel 8

getalife

Be careful with Dead1 Dead! Rahmbo–swings a mean dinner knife!

Fred

You must have missed it, ’cause i had lots to say concerning the perverters of Islaam on the holiest of days in the Christian calendar…

But where are the voices you say you don’t hear?

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/a_spiritual_jihad_against_terrorism_part_i

And it’s now strangely missing from the web, but I’d like to have heard what you thought of Cpt. Khan’s mother’s photo weeping at his grave…that raghead died so you could have freedom to post your vile hatred and bigotry…

Scout

December 26th, 2009
8:51 pm

RW-(the original) :

Like I said: You would have had to have been there.

Dusty

December 26th, 2009
8:52 pm

getalife, 8:46

You going to be a “huckleberry? Fine ’cause you are no poet.

Scout

December 26th, 2009
8:52 pm

Chuck:

Just in case you haven’t seen this :

There are three types of Islam:

1) Westernized Islam – a minority of Muslims in the U.S. are in this category. They worship Allah in sincerity but they also (because of their education and secularization) embrace freedom and Western democracy. They fear the other two forms of Islam probably as much as we do.

2) Basic Islam – most Muslims in the world fall into this category and many live in the U.S. They embrace Islam in its unbridled totality (educational, societal, legal, military, religious, etc.,). They may not individually murder or terrorize in the name of Allah/Islam but neither to they verbally condemn those who do. Radical Islam recruits from their ranks. This type of Islam must be marginalized in the U.S. as much as possible (including immigration) or given enough time and volume it will ensure the destruction of this Republic as we know it.

3) Radical Islam – these types of Muslims will stop at nothing to physically force their vicious schism of Islam on the world. They are pure evil and every effort must be made to totally eradicate their influence and existance from the face of the earth.

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
8:52 pm

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
8:54 pm

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
8:56 pm

scout–

The majority of the Muslims in the US are of group one. They just don’t get the press.

RW-(the original)

December 26th, 2009
8:57 pm

Scout,

I wouldn’t have to be anywhere to picture an experience. All I would need is a good writer to draw the mental picture and your 7:27 did just fine with the added benefit of having a great typo to hop onto.

chuck

December 26th, 2009
8:59 pm

getalife,

My problem here is that I cannot get a single liberal to honestly assess their party’s politicization of this bill. Their reckless behavior in this matter is going to destroy our health care system and probably kill our economy and NOBODY on their side of the aisle is honest enough to admit that it is all being done for POLITICAL REASONS and NOT to fix the few problems we have with our EXCELLENT health care system.

I had no problem condemning MY PARTY and PRESIDENT Bush over Medicare Drug and NCLB and MANY Republicans have done so, but the DEMS seem to have no problem going along with this debacle. I just want someone to tell me honestly why they are not OUTRAGED over this bill and the process used to pass it.

Dusty

December 26th, 2009
9:03 pm

Now, now, RW,.

Didn’t you get the message from Rahm? We are going to fight terrorism by getting healthier and stronger with the passing of the NEW healthcare program. Save the ammunition and pass the tongue depressors!!

chuck

December 26th, 2009
9:04 pm

Scout, I believe that your post @8:52 to be a pretty good assessment.

DoggoneGA

December 26th, 2009
9:14 pm

“It has NOTHING to do with FEAR, but it has EVERYTHING to do with REALITY.”

It has everything to do with fear. Reality can be dealt with, without fear…but it’s harder. Fear makes it easier, you just strike out and you think the problem is solved. It isn’t, but it looks like it is…for a while.

” Certainly there are Muslims who don’t believe in jihad, BUT how many Muslims have you seen condemn the violence perpetrated by their “brothers”.”

How many Christians have condemned the actions of “Christian” terrorists? Do you look with fear on all Christians, because some of them are terrorists against things like abortion? How about the Oklahoma City bomber? He was a Christian. Did you see all Christian “brothers” stand up and condemn his actions? Did you EXPECT them to?

“I’m not saying that we should round up Muslims and put them in concentration camps, but there probably are some Mosques that preach jihad against us ON OUR SOIL, that we ought to shut down.”

Every heard of freedom of speech? Do you call for those “Christian” churches to be shut down whose member invade and disrupt the funerals of soliders?

” We should also probably stop passing out visas to citizens of certain countries, do a little “profiling” in airports, and take other steps to keep these terrorists on the DEFENSIVE rather than the OFFENSIVE.”

Fear, it always comes down to fear. You would condemn ALL members of a country because SOME of their citizens frighten you to near death. Your fear is palpable, and it stinks.

DoggoneGA

December 26th, 2009
9:16 pm

“Hey doggone, I posted these questions about the health care bill a couple of days ago and can’t seem to get an HONEST liberal ”

Could it be because your perception of what you call “liberals” is that NONE OF THEM are honest? I’ve answered, and others have answered…but yet you can’t get an answer? Guess again. You’ve gotten answers, you just won’t accept them.

Kamchak

December 26th, 2009
9:19 pm

Fear, it always comes down to fear. You would condemn ALL members of a country because SOME of their citizens frighten you to near death. Your fear is palpable, and it stinks.

Eight years of living in a bunk-bed fort must also be embarrassing.

chuck

December 26th, 2009
9:22 pm

josef, you may be right as to the numbers as this article I read pointed out:

>>>In a 2007 Pew survey, 51 percent said they were very concerned about the rise of Islamist extremism, a proportion the report termed “much greater than the concern expressed by Muslims in most of Western Europe, the Middle East, and elsewhere.”<<<

However, that also means that 49% apparently are NOT. While that may not mean that all of those in that 49% support those committing violence, it does mean that they are turning a blind eye to them.

josef nix

December 26th, 2009
9:22 pm

Doggone–
There’s nothing quite so humorous as posters hereabouts lumping all of this, that, or the other group/philosophy together. The worst set-tos I’v had around here have been with my fellow liberals…jus’ sayin…

ken

December 26th, 2009
9:23 pm

I enlisted in the U.S. Army in 1968. When the Atlanta Olympic flame was lit, well, it made me sick.