Iranian soldiers reportedly enter Iraq, seize oil well

Hard to tell what this is all about or where it might be headed, but….

BAGHDAD (Reuters) – Iranian soldiers have crossed into Iraqi territory and taken up position at a southern oilfield whose ownership is disputed by Iran, an Iraqi official said on Friday. Deputy Interior Minister Ahmed Ali al-Khafaji, reversing statements made earlier in the day, said the incursion on Friday was the latest in a series this week.

“At 3:30 this afternoon, 11 Iranian (soldiers) infiltrated the Iran-Iraq border and took control of the oil well. They raised the Iranian flag, and they are still there until this moment,” he told Reuters.

He said the Iraqi government had taken no military action but stressed it would seek a measured, diplomatic response to the situation. “We are awaiting orders from our leader.”

According to the Wall Street Journal, oil prices have spiked as a result. “There has been no violence related to this incident, and we trust this will be resolved through peaceful diplomacy between the governments of Iraq and Iran,” a U.S. military spokesman told AFP.

Bloomberg reports confirmation from an Iraqi military official, Border Guard General Zafer Nazmi:

The Iranian forces positioned tanks around the well, which is in the al-Fakah region, 450 kilometers (280 miles) south of Baghdad. The two neighbors have disputed the border of southeast Iraq for decades.

“They positioned tanks around it and dug trenches,” General Nazmi said by phone from Basra. “They are still there, they raised the flag.”

Iran’s leadership may be feeling so much heat internally from the continued protests that they’re looking to pick a fight with outsiders as a distraction. Just conjecture though. Stay tuned….

UPDATE, 11:35: Iraqi officials seem to taking this in stride in so far.

from AP:

“We are coordinating with the Oil Ministry regarding this issue. This is not the first time that the Iranians have tried to prevent Iraqis from investing in oil fields in border areas. Tomorrow, we might summon the Iranian ambassador to discuss this issue,” Mahmoud told The Associated Press.

The al-Fakkah field is considered a shared field between Iran and Iraq, meaning both nations are able to pump oil from it, but the Iraqis consider oil well No. 4 theirs.

In Washington, a U.S. official said that although Iranians have crossed the border before, they had not previously ventured this far.

Iraqi security forces were in the area, but there are no reports of any fighting or that any shots were fired, he said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the record.

No U.S. troops were in the area. And the Iranians are believed to have left the area, he said.

404 comments Add your comment

I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

December 18th, 2009
10:39 am

Of course, you know, this means war.

Well, except for the little problem of dummycrat cowardice….

Taxpayer

December 18th, 2009
10:39 am

Must be a big oil well.

Taxpayer

December 18th, 2009
10:45 am

Iran. Iraq. What’s the difference. Now that Bush has set the Iraqis free to choose their own path… anyway, we’ll see what these eleven soldiers have in mind. Perhaps they learned a little trick or two from Saddam’s Kuwaiti adventures. By the way, is that oil field “owned” by Russia or China by any chance or is it just another Shell game.

Southern Comfort

December 18th, 2009
10:46 am

Hmmmm…

Wonder if they would have tried that with Saddam in charge. Guess we’ll never know.

Guess our soldiers won’t be leaving Iraq as expected now.

Fill up your gas tanks, because we’re about to go on one hell of a ride people.

Outhouse Go-Kart

December 18th, 2009
10:50 am

We have no worries about a war with Iran as our fearFULL leader, the kenyan will do nothing except soil himself. Which he is probably doing at this very minute.

Obobo is a LOSER!!!

getalife

December 18th, 2009
10:51 am

Nothing on cable news about this story.

BMDPD

December 18th, 2009
10:51 am

Sounds like they might have their nuke.

Peadawg

December 18th, 2009
10:53 am

Obama to his generals: “Bring me my brown pants”.

Brad Steel

December 18th, 2009
10:54 am

Maybe they just want to liberate the oil well and introduce democracy to the oil.

#1 Foxy Lady

December 18th, 2009
10:55 am

They were justified to intervene before the eminent threat from the oil well’s WMD were deployed on their allies or sovereign territory.

#1 Foxy Lady

December 18th, 2009
10:55 am

They were justified to intervene before the eminent threat from the oil well’s WMD were deployed on their allies or sovereign territory.

Jackie

December 18th, 2009
11:05 am

This action will give all our keyboard warriors a chance to show what they can do. No more, talking about what should be done, now they have the opportunity to show everyone how it is done.

@@

December 18th, 2009
11:05 am

Stratfor has been following it with updates.

Ali Hussein Balou, the chairman of the Iraqi Parliamentary Oil and Gas Committee, has previously stated that such clashes have occurred sporadically over the past six years. Two recent incidents include:

1. an exchange of fire between Iraqi Border Security forces and Iranian forces during April 2009 after the latter gained control of an oil field just outside of the southern Iraqi city of Basra.

2. armed clashes during July 2009 near oil well No. 4 (Pich-Angizeh) in the Dehloran region.

Al Fauqa has been specifically mentioned before as contested by the two countries. As in this most recent reported dispute over al Fauqa oil field, other parties — such as the Iraqi Oil Ministry — have denied that such incidents took place.

A U.S. military spokesman is confirming that the field is in disputed territory, and that such incursions are commonplace.

To the blog’s “Mrs”, ^^^ that’s a four-sentence excerpt (in italics). I can see you’ve had a rough morning. Don’t take your frustrations out on me by reporting me to Stratfor again.

Four are allowed with attribution.

@@

December 18th, 2009
11:07 am

DANG! Italics didn’t kick in. Make that the 2nd thru 4th paragraphs are excerpts.

BMDPD

December 18th, 2009
11:08 am

Yep, I don’t know about yall, but if I were a little kid with a firearm and a big kid kept threatening and warning me repeatedly over and over and over, for several years that he was going to come take my firearm if I did not get rid of it, then I would probably hide it or give it to a friend to take care of incase the big kid came. Any thoughts?

getalife

December 18th, 2009
11:09 am

Jay is probably correct with his distraction theory.

Cable news is not reporting it.

F-105 Thunderchief

December 18th, 2009
11:09 am

Has the U.S. helped Iraq put its air force back together?

getalife

December 18th, 2009
11:11 am

You got snitched out @@?

Taxpayer

December 18th, 2009
11:12 am

This is the stuff that futures traders are made off. Well, them and fear mongers. The war machines are humming. Can you hear those gears a grinding. They need lubricating.

mm

December 18th, 2009
11:14 am

Hey wingnutties, this isn’t our problem I know you want the US to stick it’s nose into this, but smarter people are in charge now.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 18th, 2009
11:15 am

@@

finally after all this …..that’s what you think I did!

Criminy and I thought for some reason the FBI knocked on your door.

I doubt you will believe me, but I didn’t report you to Stratfor.

I did not report you to Statfor or anybody else.

On my honor.

Rightwing Troll

December 18th, 2009
11:16 am

Has Cheney relocated to his secret bunker yet?

Rightwing Troll

December 18th, 2009
11:17 am

Because much like the groundhog predicts spring by seeing his shadow, you can tell if war is inevitable by how fast chickenhawks hide…

Peadawg

December 18th, 2009
11:18 am

Looks like I’m not the only one on here getting tired of Mrs. Godzilla’s antics…..

Taxpayer

December 18th, 2009
11:18 am

Has Cheney relocated to his secret bunker yet?

Yep. And Bush was holding his seat. Oops. Did that come out right. Yep, it did.

@@

December 18th, 2009
11:18 am

Getalife:

I did! The “Mrs” will deny it, just like Kamchak refuses to to acknowledge he/she was mistaken about a post I never made. To this day he/she would have everyone believe I did. Flexing their blog muscles, digits so to speak.

This cartoon says all that needs to be said about Obamacare.

It’s on clearance! A “Red Tag” sale, if you will.

Luv it!

Taxpayer

December 18th, 2009
11:19 am

@@ is heavy into conspiracy theories.

Iran is Right

December 18th, 2009
11:19 am

Victory to Iran, crush the scum beneath the weight of your armor. If U cannot hold the oil well, blow it up, along with all pipelines, refineries, and Iraqi scum bag collaborators, imho, it is all on your territory.

@@

December 18th, 2009
11:20 am

On my honor.

Thppbbbt!

getalife

December 18th, 2009
11:21 am

@@,

I doubt Mrs. G would do that but now that you posted it, somebody will do it again.

What do they say about Greece?

Mrs. Godzilla

December 18th, 2009
11:23 am

oh well, I tried.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 18th, 2009
11:23 am

Thanks, getalife.

Peadawg

December 18th, 2009
11:23 am

Mrs. Godzilla “On my honor.”

LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

bless your heart…..

BMDPD

December 18th, 2009
11:24 am

I still marvel on how it is perfectly acceptable (in your eyes) for the lefties to bash, belittle and degrade our former President and VP. However, if anyone on the other side dares to say anything about Obama, then we are either…
1. Racist (You love playing the race card)
2. Uneducated
3. Misinformed
4. Scared
5. Extreme Right hate mongers.

Why is that? Can anyone answer my question? Do you dare approach it? Does anyone respect the office anymore (both sides)? It is one thing to be critical of a president’s policies, but it is another to insult the president, former president, etc…

Kamchak

December 18th, 2009
11:26 am

…just like Kamchak refuses to to acknowledge he/she was mistaken about a post I never made.

Having Jay remove a post after the fact, does not mean it never existed.

Peadawg

December 18th, 2009
11:26 am

Ok, I think I’m done. I believe I’ve gotten the point across that the “bless you heart…” comment by Mrs. Godzy is absolutely uncalled for. It is said in complete sarcasm everytime she says, which is an attack on someone, right Jay?

Jackie

December 18th, 2009
11:28 am

Wonder where the moral outrage has gone? The so-called conservatives realize this is war and this country needs their profound and elevated bravery to quickly dispense of this menace to the free world.

The reason their postings are sparse on this blog is due to the fact they have all rushed to their local AFEES office and signed up to join the Marines or Special Forces.

getalife

December 18th, 2009
11:28 am

peewee,

You are crying about “bless your heart?.

Man up son.

Mrs. Godzilla

December 18th, 2009
11:28 am

getalife

ewwwww….

@@

December 18th, 2009
11:29 am

Taxpayer:

@@ is heavy into conspiracy theories.

Sure thing…it’s people like me, who thinks 9/11 was an inside job. It’s people like me, who thinks the J-E-W-S were conspicuously absent from the Two Towers that day. It’s people like me, who thinks the war in Iraq was planned years in advance by the Bush cabal.

Jackie

December 18th, 2009
11:31 am

@BMDPD

I am critical of the policies of the past Administration as I critical of some of the policies of the current Administration.

I think the President and the Congress don’t realize they are employed by the citizen voters of this country.

Iran is Right

December 18th, 2009
11:32 am

Don’t worry BMDPD, I hate all the washington scum, dummycrat and repuke alike. The difference is that the repukes wrap their ugly cowardly buts in the flag for protection, while the dummycrats wrap their equally ugly buts in gay shades of discrimination for protection. Both parties are liars, thieves, cowards, and bullies, and I for one pray daily they all die screaming. Hence my cheer leading for Iran, the only country on earth with guts enough to stand up to both the washington scum and the tele aviv scum. Otherwise I could care less about Iran. Oh well, back to praying for a screaming end to the year.

Peadawg

December 18th, 2009
11:32 am

getalife, I’ve reported your first comment w/ “peewee” in it and I’ll do it for the second one as well. Snooty comments and namecaling it getting way overboard on these blogs and frankly, I’m tired of it.

BMDPD

December 18th, 2009
11:32 am

Jackie, what is AFEES?

Jackie

December 18th, 2009
11:33 am

@BMDPD

Armed Forces Recruit Offices.

Taxpayer

December 18th, 2009
11:34 am

Sure thing…it’s people like me, who thinks 9/11 was an inside job. It’s people like me, who thinks the J-E-W-S were conspicuously absent from the Two Towers that day. It’s people like me, who thinks the war in Iraq was planned years in advance by the Bush cabal.

Really! Wow. And I thought it was just something that you thought Kamchak did. Well.

mm

December 18th, 2009
11:34 am

Ahhh, the pathetic wingnutties are getting their feelings hurt.

Peadawg

December 18th, 2009
11:35 am

getalife, I have no idea what y’all are talking about with @@

AF

December 18th, 2009
11:37 am

Any chance the Iraqi’s can actually defend their own soil, ur, I mean oil?

Peadawg

December 18th, 2009
11:37 am

“Ahhh, the pathetic wingnutties are getting their feelings hurt.”

Not exactly. Jay is all about censoring people on here…just making sure he’s fair about it. Look on his previous blog and you’ll see what I’m talking about. It was mainly the snooty remarks by Godzilla when I ask her a question that finally got on my last nerve.

Call it like it is.

December 18th, 2009
11:37 am

Okay this is beyond silly, a spike in oil prices over 11 Iranian soldiers standing by an oil rig??? Surely there is a girl scout troop in the area that could take these guys down and be done with it. This should have never even got to the world stage. You know sometimes we get information too fast and this is one of those times.

@@

December 18th, 2009
11:38 am

Kamchak:

Having Jay remove a post after the fact, does not mean it never existed.

This one can be resolved easily. If jay doesn’t grant permission to release an excerpt from his e-mail to me, I’ll ask for forgiveness later, and won’t really care whether I receive it or not. You made a mistake! He knows it and I know it. You’re the only one who “appears” not to know it.

It’s really doesn’t matter to me that much. You’re constant snipes compel me, tho.

Getalife:

The “Mrs” threatened to report me to someone. The next day I was. No offense, but you’d have to be naive to believe what she claims.

I’ll check on Greece for you.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

December 18th, 2009
11:38 am

gitmo-

IRANIANS SEIZE IRAQI OIL WELL

http://www.drudgereport.com/

The left wing propaganda machine and stooge brigade is still waiting for their message to be created at the White House.

Apparently.

Taxpayer

December 18th, 2009
11:39 am

When are we going to get past the rinse cycle around here. I got yard work to tend to and I can’t even think about picking a new mess of mixed greens. My garden is about to float away. I’m gonna have to hire ducks to pick the greens.

Jenifer

December 18th, 2009
11:40 am

Ahhh Bush, the gift that just keeps right on giving…

getalife

December 18th, 2009
11:40 am

Thanks Andy.

I thought there would be a siren.

Jackie

December 18th, 2009
11:42 am

@taxpayer

Climate change is causing only minor problems presently. Wonder what it will be like in the next 10 years if nothing is done? Do you think Atlanta may be on the coast?

ArmyLeader

December 18th, 2009
11:43 am

BMDPD,

You my friend are the quintessential misinformed party so quick to jump to conclusions. Many people take the actions and words of a few and tag them as the opinion of the majority. You continue this trend by adding your remarks. Although you make a valid point that there are ignorant misinformed persons amongst the Obama supporters that jump right to racism etc, you unfortunately don’t aid your cause either.

I will approach your subject because I have not talked down on the past Presidents and quite an avid supporter of the present.

Outhouse Go-Kart

December 18th, 2009
11:46 am

The Iraqis will soon be calling the whitehouse and insisting we come to their aid.

Jenifer

December 18th, 2009
11:46 am

Saber rattling. This is the vacuum Bush created expressing itself and it wants to be Alpha dog in the region.

Jay

December 18th, 2009
11:46 am

Kamchak, just to clear up a bit of ancient history: @@ is correct, and you — and I — were incorrect. She wasn’t the blogger in question.

I’m not sure why this matters to the two of you, but that’s the facts.

Outhouse Go-Kart

December 18th, 2009
11:47 am

“Do you think Atlanta may be on the coast?”

Oh yea…absolutely!!

You best pack up the plantation now and get the hell out!

#1 Foxy Lady

December 18th, 2009
11:48 am

BMDPD,
Oh how you must suffer so in your righteous indignity and oppression.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

December 18th, 2009
11:48 am

Well, seems to me it’s the beginning of the End of Times. I feel kind of sorry for you all. I’ll be caught up in the Rapture before the war breaks out but I sure wish you Sinners lots of luck. You’ll need it.

I know my Patriotic Conservative friends will be lined up at the recruitment offices soon while the liberal Traders will run and hide. All I can tell them all is don’t worry about the trailer me and the missus and little Sonny Zell George will be leaving when the Lord comes to get us soon. But if you decide to move in you need to kick the furnace a couple times to get it to start.

Have a good lunch everybody. I’ll keep hauling the beer for you till the big Cloud comes and takes me away. It’ll probly be this weekend.

@@

December 18th, 2009
11:48 am

Getalife:

Are you talking about the nationwide strike? If so…

The communist trade unions are waging a national strike against the government. Why? Because the government is reining in their spending. That’s what happens when people’s livelihood depends on government. The rest of Europe is watching closely out of fear they may be next. They’d go further in debt before facing civilian unrest.

It’s really quite sad. The sign of things to come.

Peadawg

December 18th, 2009
11:49 am

“Ahhh Bush, the gift that just keeps right on giving…”

I didn’t know he was still in the White House. Oh, that’s right…Obama is spending and spending just like Bush did. So in a way, Obama is G.W. Bush.

Jenifer

December 18th, 2009
11:51 am

“I didn’t know he was still in the White House.”

You didn’t? Where you been?

Jackie

December 18th, 2009
11:51 am

I find it hard to believe the utter silence on the current topic. This is a subject that has always been a question in the minds of the professional military. The so-called conservatives were of the opinion that Israel should take care of the problem with a precision strike or we should “carpet bomb” the Iranians.

Now, we have the matter squarely in front of us and the keyboard warriors have suddenly contracted a disease of “weak knees.” My, oh, my!!!!!!

Kamchak

December 18th, 2009
11:52 am

@@

I stand corrected, my apologies.

BMDPD

December 18th, 2009
11:52 am

Jackie, you crack me up… AFEES is the exchange. Sorry, that is coming from a mis-informed right winger.

ArmyLeader the president is an office to be respected by all. As much as I don’t agree with the current president and his policies, I do not slam him or personally belittle him.

@@

December 18th, 2009
11:52 am

Thanks, jay. I much preferred you come forth. Not because of my initial knee-jerk reaction, (e-mails) but because I didn’t wanna share something you said to me in private.

As far as I’m concerned, this one is finished.

Jackie

December 18th, 2009
11:53 am

@Outhouse Go-Kart

I will follow the trail that you blaze.

BMDPD

December 18th, 2009
11:54 am

Foxy, you answered my question with your inflamatory post. Thanks, that is all I need to know.

Jackie

December 18th, 2009
11:54 am

@BMDPD

I may have the acronym wrong, but the offices are still there for the Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines and Coast Guard. Take your pick.

Outhouse Go-Kart

December 18th, 2009
11:54 am

Oh no…you are correct. We should have, long ago, authorized and Israeli strike followed up by bombing…I agree!

Only thing these middle easterners understand is death, destruction, violence and they should receive it 10 fold.

@@

December 18th, 2009
11:55 am

I’ll try this again. My first “acceptance speech” disappeared into the ether zone.

Apologies accepted, Kamchak.

Balance Our Budget

December 18th, 2009
11:57 am

Iraq Afghanistan Healthcare Economy Gitmo Terrorist trials in New York Exploding Deficit
problems problems problems That’s ok we can tackle these problems once we get back from the Global Hoax conference in Copenhagen.

Brad Steel

December 18th, 2009
11:58 am

Thanks for maintaining the historical integrity and factual accuracy of these anonymous bloggers.

Blogging-blame integrity is crucial for the future of American freedom and liberty!!!

BMDPD

December 18th, 2009
11:59 am

Foxy, what you are saying is that because you felt oppressed because of the party in office not having an agenda that you agree with, then once your party comes into power it is ok to oppress and belittle others?

Bosch

December 18th, 2009
11:59 am

Looks like this is much ado about nothing — or the Iranians trying desperately to say “We do matter!!”

Outhouse Go-Kart

December 18th, 2009
11:59 am

Well hopefully little Sasha will take pity on Daddy Obobo at this weekends Parcheesi tournatment and allow him to win at something.

Sasha YOU ROCK!!

BMDPD

December 18th, 2009
12:01 pm

See ya’ll, I have got to get down to the base exchange (store) and register to kill those innocent extremist.

Bosch

December 18th, 2009
12:01 pm

BMDPD,

When I read your post @ 11:24, I thought you were making a joke and spelling out Rumsfeld.

Jake

December 18th, 2009
12:03 pm

Jennifer – Thanks to President Bush we have troops in the area and can deal with this situation if we need to. Since you don’t seem to approve, I suggest you park your car in protest until you can get transportation that runs on alternative fuel or American oil.

Southern Comfort

December 18th, 2009
12:03 pm

Bosch

I didn’t notice that about the 11:24 until you said that.

hehehehehe…

#1 Foxy Lady

December 18th, 2009
12:05 pm

Enter your comments here

Jake

December 18th, 2009
12:06 pm

What a wonderful opportunity for Pres Obama to intervene and show the world how well diplomacy can work in a situation like this. I predict no violence will be necessary, O’s got this one!

#1 Foxy Lady

December 18th, 2009
12:08 pm

BMDPD,
Your ability to read mind mind and ferret out all of the secret intentions of the lefties is impressive. It must be a by-product of oppression and the inflammation from inflammatory post.

Balance Our Budget

December 18th, 2009
12:11 pm

If you stack one million US$1 bills, it would be 110m (361 ft) high and weigh exactly 1 ton
So how many tons would it take to pay off this?www.usdebtclock.org

Bosch

December 18th, 2009
12:13 pm

Balance Our Budget,

Come on, don’t make us do math word problems.

BMDPD

December 18th, 2009
12:15 pm

Wow Foxy, you appear to be pretty bitter to me. Must be all that oppression. How was my post inflamatory? My post was true. There appears to be a double standard. I will refrain from insults and name calling because that is the right (as in proper) thing to do.

Outhouse Go-Kart

December 18th, 2009
12:18 pm

Balance Our Budget

December 18th, 2009
12:11 pm

Uhhhh…hmmmm…..1.5 tons?

BMDPD

December 18th, 2009
12:19 pm

Foxy, the worst thing is that you never actually answered the question. The sad part is that we all know the right answer, but if you don’t…

No one should name call or belittle anyone else. That is the wrong thing to do. Hmm, that seems like a pretty liberal idea to me.

@@

December 18th, 2009
12:20 pm

Obama is having sideline meetings with Medvedev in Copenhagen. I guarantee you, they aren’t about climate change. It’s crunch time for Obama. The deadline on Iran is upon him. Israel is not gonna hold back waiting for unrealistic diplomacy. The cost to them is too great.

Should’a listened to Cheney, GW. I believe it would’a made all the difference in Iraq, Afghanistan, AND Pakistan.

All the pain and uncertainty would be diminished.

Oh well!

Hard Right Hook

December 18th, 2009
12:22 pm

mm

December 18th, 2009
11:14 am
“Hey wingnutties, this isn’t our problem I know you want the US to stick it’s nose into this, but smarter people are in charge now.”

Smarter than who? Are you including VP Joe here? You can’t be serious.

He may be smart (by some accords) but he’s yet to grow a pair. He’s a wimpy amatuer at the end of the day.

How’s that dialoge, hope & change stuff working for you?

Bud Wiser

December 18th, 2009
12:22 pm

mm

December 18th, 2009
11:14 am

Hey wingnutties, this isn’t our problem I know you want the US to stick it’s nose into this, but smarter people are in charge now.

Other than being the most ignorant, uninformed, stupid, and blind to the obvious statement of the day from some brain dead moonbat, this also is, well funny.

I must ask this:

1. Would these be the same people who have quadrupled our national debt in less than a year?

2. Are these the same smarter people who are attending a global warming/climate change meeting of the poor nations demanding extortion money, in Copenhagen, who now may not be able to get back into DC on time because of the imminent snowstorm of the new century?

3. Would these be the smarter people who also accepted a Nobel Peace Prize while simultaneously accelerating abd building up a war front in the Middle East?

4. Are these the same smart people who have now twice in a few weeks span allowed uninvited persons to smooth on by security and attend state dinners, Veterans dinners, and even shake hands with Mr & Mrs Obowo at one?

I could go on, but the point has been made rather well, dontcha know.

So I ask one more now: who are the “smarter people in charge” you refer to?

Dimwit.

Bosch

December 18th, 2009
12:26 pm

BMDPD,

I think Foxy is a parody blogger – like Redneck. Just saying.

Hard Right Hook

December 18th, 2009
12:26 pm

#1 Foxy Lady

December 18th, 2009
12:08 pm
BMDPD,
“Your ability to read mind mind and ferret out all of the secret intentions of the lefties is impressive.”

Liberals, especially hard core lefties, are as predictable as a sunrise. It’s really not fair to call it mind reading.

pat

December 18th, 2009
12:28 pm

So this is how the foreign policy strategy with Iran has played out. We offered talks and all kinds of niceties and yet they spit in our face and stomp on our foot. Iraq is still our problem and hence we cannot just ignore it and it seems a deliberate attempt by Iran to pick a fight with us. Perhaps it is an attempt to distract from their internal strife who their citizens are bravely protesting in the face of severe punishments.
So what do we do?
Well surely we have to wait and see to a point, but it cannot last forever. We can free the well, but Iran will surely use it as an excuse to escalate tensions while their nuke program ramps up unabated. We can threaten, but it cannot be empty.
What ever happens one thing is clear, you have to negotiate with Iran with a gun to their heads, as they have repeated proven they will not negotiate in good faith.
Good luck Mr. President, you have a problem with no good solutions.

Outhouse Go-Kart

December 18th, 2009
12:29 pm

Obobo smart? LOL…he cant ever win a game of Parcheesi against a 7 year old. Even though we know better, at times Obobo can come across as semi-intelligent.

Biden comes across as a complete fool.
Pelosi as a B I T C H!