Atlanta and the hysterics of global warming
It was unseasonably, strangely warm yesterday, hitting a reported high of 68 (69 at the airport) in the middle of December. That’s 12 degrees warmer than the average Atlanta high for Dec. 9 of 56 degrees.
Now, if I were to adopt the debating technique of certain global-warming skeptics, I might seize upon yesterday’s freakish heat as proof that the scientists are right and that global warming is real. Just as deniers use an odd snowstorm in Houston to scoff at claims that the planet is getting hotter, I could do the same:
“Look how warm it was yesterday! Almost 70 in mid-December! How can you claim that global warming isn’t real?”
But of course, that would be wrong. It would be foolish. One day’s temperature is a matter of weather, not climate. One odd day, month, season, year or even a series of years tell us little about long-term climate trends. In addition, data from Atlanta or any other single monitoring station don’t tell us anything about trends globally.
As I was perusing the December record-temperature data at weather.com, though, I noticed something unusual.
The oldest record I could find from Atlanta goes back to 1880, giving us a temperature database of at least 129 years. Logically, daily record-high temperatures ought to be distributed fairly equally over that time period. Yet they’re not.
Of the 31 daily record highs in December, 24 have been set in the last 25 years, far more than logic suggests. Let me put that another way: Seven record daily highs for Atlanta were set in the first 104 years of record-keeping; 24 record highs have been set in the last 25 years. (Looking at the other end of the gauge, only 3 of 31 daily December lows have been set in the past quarter century, which is about what you’d expect in a normal distribution.)
Startled, I looked at January records. Nine of the 31 record highs that month have been set in the last 25 years. That’s a lot fewer than in December, but statistically, it’s also two or three times more than should be the case if all else were equal.
Now, even that does not constitute proof of global warming. At most, you can say that it is consistent with climate change — climatologists do warn that warming would be most noticeable in winter months. But even that claim might be stretching things too far.
As climate researchers would tell you, a lot of that apparent warming might be explained by the growing urbanization of Atlanta. The city has become a heat island of concrete and asphalt, which makes it complicated to compare today’s temperature records with those of 100 years ago. So researchers use various “tricks” to correct for that change — they have agreed-upon methods to account for the effect of heat islands, and they adjust the data accordingly.
In other words, it is not a simple matter. And given the complexity of the science, there would certainly be an opportunity for researchers to give the data a slight little finagle here, a tiny bit of exaggeration there, and — voila!! — global warming!
That’s roughly the version of reality that many global-warming skeptics are now asking their supporters to accept. Having largely lost the argument about a scientific consensus on the issue — the consensus is too solid to dismiss any longer — they now argue that the consensus itself is a fraud.
“At worst its junk science and it’s part of a massive international scientific fraud,” as U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., claims. Sensenbrenner is former chairman of both the House Science Committee and the House Judiciary Committee, and is now the ranking Republican member on the House Select Committee for Energy Independence and Global Warming.
Of course, the narrative pushed by Sensenbrenner and others would require you to believe that smart people all over the world — most of whom who have wanted to be scientists all their lives and have worked hard to achieve that goal — have somehow gotten together to collude in this giant fraud. Depending on the day and the skeptic/theorist, the researchers were motivated to join that conspiracy by a lust for government research grants — although private industry would pay more for the opposite conclusion — or by some secret desire to promote socialism or even one-world government.
Since the late ’70s, as the story goes, scientists in the United States, Britain, Japan, Canada, France, Korea and many other nations have been perpetrating this silent fraud, and as young scientists emerged from universities they too have been secretly initiated into the priesthood. It’s a story right out of the books of Dan Brown, requiring the skills of a Robert Langdon to unravel.
Either that, or global warming is real.
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Jenifer
December 10th, 2009
11:39 am
“Before AmVet, you and Jennifer provoked me with snide remarks and name calling I was doing just fine.”
The devil, I blame the devil.
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:40 am
USinUK @ 11:39, if you could read then you would know that I DID say that this recession is Bush’s.
Paul
December 10th, 2009
11:40 am
I had to pause the presentation a couple times due to work, but it’s about done now. So anyone who was just listening in a separate window while blogging should be well through “Microwaves, Icebergs and Global Warming.”
Anyone want to discuss it? Any holes in the presentation? Any data collection or presentation that looked off? Were the conclusions sound?
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
11:41 am
LA,
“He called me a troll AND a fool.”
OH NO!!! How tragic!! Not a troll AND a fool! That’s just WAYYYYYY too much.
AmVET!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!
USinUK,
I’m gonna need my monitor cleaner back – and can you pass the box of tissues? I’m laughing so hard right now I’m crying.
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:41 am
Taxpayer, I’m not a right winger. I am a moderate who does not tow the line of either party. Some chaps are upset because I am picking on their lord and savior. If Bush were in office I would chide him over all the stupid things that he did.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
December 10th, 2009
11:42 am
One of the ways the country is going in the wrong direction is not simply with huge government spending but with huge government period. Ordinary Americans are uneasy about trusting their fate to huge government. They know that government services are inefficient, expensive, and occasionally repressive and subject to corruption. More than that, huge government is unreliable.-AmSpec
The gigantic, slothen monolith wants to use carbon credits to reward it’s special interests and punish those it disfavors, this is the true issue at hand, not the weather.
And guess who gets to foot the bill.
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:42 am
Bosch, you bring hypocrite to a whole new level.
USinUK
December 10th, 2009
11:42 am
LA –
“UK, then what is this?????”
please, please, PLEASE … learn how to read. the prime minister had nothing to do with the expenses scandal that’s currently happening in the houses of parliament.
(cliff notes version: the members of parliament – abbrev MP, not PM – were filing for reimbursement for second homes that they weren’t living in, PPV films when their hubbies were watching porn, duck houses, moat cleaning … to the tune of millions of £££)
saying that Gordo had anythign to do with it would be like saying that Bush Senior was involved in the Congressional Post Office sandal.
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:43 am
Jenifer, for you I blame public schools. OHhhhhhh, I just had to get that in there somewhere.
But really, I have no beef with you.
jim
December 10th, 2009
11:43 am
What everyone fails to mention is that temperature recording devices are better and more precise than they were even 5 years ago. Therefore, statistical analysis is flawed because the same measuring instrument was not used and therefore becomes a variable…..
getalife
December 10th, 2009
11:43 am
Friedman stole my stuff on the benefits of a green economy but added it will end the deficit.
GE just landed a huge windmill contract.
I tried to tell you to buy GE when it was around 5 a share.
They are Obama’s haliburton.
parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme
December 10th, 2009
11:43 am
“Anyone want to discuss it? Any holes in the presentation? Any data collection or presentation that looked off? Were the conclusions sound?”
How nervewracking! I’m biting my nails.
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
11:44 am
USinUK,
Moat cleaning? What the hell?
USinUK
December 10th, 2009
11:44 am
Bosch –
“I’m gonna need my monitor cleaner back – and can you pass the box of tissues? I’m laughing so hard right now I’m crying.”
dude. some people hit bottom, then pull out a pick axe …
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:44 am
USinUK, LOLOLOLOL!!!!! Keep telling yourself that! Gordon Brown and his labor party are TOAST!
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2009
11:45 am
“Therefore, statistical analysis is flawed because the same measuring instrument was not used and therefore becomes a variable…..”
And do you REALLY think the scientists don’t know that, and don’t know how to factor that into their models?
Jenifer
December 10th, 2009
11:45 am
“But really, I have no beef with you.”
Whew! What a relief!
Outhouse Go-Kart
December 10th, 2009
11:45 am
UGA87
December 10th, 2009
11:30 am
Im impressed he was able to earn any degree. Too bad he is unable to use his knowledge in a positive way. In other words, the goron is a very stupid person.
Willie
December 10th, 2009
11:45 am
USinUK
December 10th, 2009
11:33 am
Well, I sent those absentee ballots to the same dead people this last Atlanta mayor race and the ballots did not return this time. Should I have had a ACORN shirt on? Oh, I forgt to send one to Mickey and Minnie Mouse-0–dammit. Did ACORN send you two or three ballots to vote in the last election?
USinUK
December 10th, 2009
11:46 am
Bosch –
“Moat cleaning? What the hell?”
seriously. moat cleaning.
some other guy spent hundreds on a deluxe duck house.
a number of people requested reimbursement for houses on which they no longer had a mortgage.
and, now, they’re outraged that they’re being forced to pay it all back.
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:46 am
USinUK wrote: saying that Gordo had anythign to do with it would be like saying that Bush Senior was involved in the Congressional Post Office sandal.
LOLOLOL!!!!!! You guys sorry in your case gals, blamed Bush for EVERYTHING!
You blame him for 911, global warming, unemployment, your child’s bad hair day, and everything else that stinks in your lives!
Matilda
December 10th, 2009
11:47 am
The persistent, unreleting nastiness of one poster here, (along with the utterly retarded content of his or her posts) is tiresome and boring. Would love to discuss the issues, but this forum has become a means of self-validation for someone who is clearly ignored and avoided by everyone who knows him or her. Y’all have a lovely day!
Outhouse Go-Kart
December 10th, 2009
11:47 am
Why is national unemployment still above 10%. I understood the stimulus to reign back into about 8%.
Save us Jesus Christ Obobo!!
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:47 am
Jenifer, oh Jennifer, I don’t have a problem with you! I wanted to use you and your comments to prove a point that Bosch is a one-dimensional person who only sees what she/he wants to see.
USinUK
December 10th, 2009
11:47 am
LA –
“USinUK, LOLOLOLOL!!!!! Keep telling yourself that! Gordon Brown and his labor party are TOAST!”
uh. yeah. and???
(unlike you, though, the general public here understands that the PM has nothing whatsoever to do with the members of parliament)
Outhouse Go-Kart
December 10th, 2009
11:47 am
Thank you Matty. You may now return to your slobber covered pillow and your slumber.
Willie
December 10th, 2009
11:48 am
I have a new achronym and I just love it. Progressive liberal liars = PLL. Do that not fit or what?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
December 10th, 2009
11:48 am
Look back at the time stamp for the comments on this blog. There is not one minute with less than two comments erupting during it, and 11:39 had 7 posts.
It’s about time for some lib to accuse me of not having a life, isn’t it?
hahaha
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
11:48 am
USinUK,
I thought moats were supposed to be nasty – like the landfill. Seriously, you guys still have moats? Really?
Now, the deluxe duck houses, I can see – I mean, ducks need protection from the weather and all. Birds have their little fancy house, why not ducks?
“a number of people requested reimbursement for houses on which they no longer had a mortgage.”
Yeah, okay, that’s a problem.
AmVet
December 10th, 2009
11:48 am
Jennifer, in my own defense, “If it does not fit, you MUST acquit!”
These neo-cons sometimes remind me of OJ – still looking for the “real” killer. (Pssst. Maybe he’s still in Tora Bora.)
Bosch, speak on my behalf and you’ll REALLY think I’m shameful!
Man, I wish Bruno was here to liven the joint up even more…
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2009
11:48 am
“You guys sorry in your case gals, blamed Bush for EVERYTHING!”
Ummm…actually, not she didn’t. First of all she said Bush SENIOR, as in Daddy Bush not Junior Busy, and second she said he WASN’T involved in the Congressional Post Office scandal.
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:49 am
USinUK, well, you seem to think that Brown is somehow a saint in the UK. He’s far from it.
If the UK general public “understand” that Brown is “innocent of all counts” then how come he’s going to go down in flames in the next election?
USinUK
December 10th, 2009
11:49 am
LA –
“LOLOLOL!!!!!! You guys sorry in your case gals, blamed Bush for EVERYTHING! You blame him for 911, global warming, unemployment, your child’s bad hair day, and everything else that stinks in your lives!”
honey. take a deep breath. slow down. you seem to be hyperventalating.
now. go back and reread what I wrote. (go ahead … I’ll wait).
I said Bush SENIOR and the Congressional Post Office Scandal.
go get yourself a nice glass of water and try to compose yourself … you seem to need a time-out …
Jake
December 10th, 2009
11:49 am
If you believe and you’re concerned about global warming you should turn off your electricity and park your car and leave the rest of us alone. Personally, I’m looking forward to hunting some polar bear, the other white meat!
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:51 am
AmVet writes: These neo-cons sometimes remind me of OJ – still looking for the “real” killer. (Pssst. Maybe he’s still in Tora Bora.)
I’m ASSUMING that you are talking about me. Well, I will ASSUME that you are a left wing Obama cult follower. Yes?
I love how you’ve totally disregarded my nice slamming of your previous angered rhetoric a few pages over.
But still, keep name calling etc……..
I guess the US military didn’t instill tact and honesty in you!
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2009
11:52 am
“I’m looking forward to hunting some polar bear, the other white meat!”
Just don’t eat the liver
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
11:52 am
AmVet,
“Bosch, speak on my behalf and you’ll REALLY think I’m shameful!”
I was just chastising you for calling LA a troll AND a fool – and him not even provoking you or nothing – you can’t just go around picking fights you know. That was just taking it a BIT too far Chief.
Seriously, what would Jesus do?
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:52 am
USinUK, I then why didn’t you say Bush Sr? I do remember well, for 8 years, you libs blamed Bush for everything.
Now that the tables have turned, you guys or in your case, girls, can’t seem to understand why people would hate the good and glorious Obama!
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
11:53 am
Jake,
“you should turn off your electricity and park your car and leave the rest of us alone. ”
I kind of feel the same way about fundamentalist Christians – I wish the rapture would come, take them away so the rest of us can live in peace.
Jenifer
December 10th, 2009
11:53 am
“Jenifer, oh Jennifer, I don’t have a problem with you!”
Good! You really had me worried there for a minute!
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:54 am
USinUK, I’m calm as the sea before the storm. Callllllllllllllllllllm.
I do like our chats though.
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:54 am
Jenifer, I’m sure I did!
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
11:55 am
LA,
“can’t seem to understand why people would hate the good and glorious Obama”
Nah. We all know you hate him – it’s quite obvious – we understand that perfectly.
Willie
December 10th, 2009
11:55 am
I think we have more important things to discuss. Like the E P A! Eric Holden, oh hel7 it just keeps going on & on & on. The fall and decline of the United States of America. Instead of barbarians taking over we have the college elite like Carl Marx, Lennin, Castro, harvard graduates, & on & on & on.
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2009
11:55 am
“then why didn’t you say Bush Sr”
You really DO need to slow down and READ before you comment, she said: “would be like saying that Bush Senior “
USinUK
December 10th, 2009
11:55 am
LA –
“USinUK, well, you seem to think that Brown is somehow a saint in the UK. He’s far from it.”
wow. you are so … weird. where on EARTH are you getting that I or anyone else here thinks he’s a saint? I can’t stand the guy and hold him responsible for the pickle the UK economy is in.
just because he had nothing to do with the MP expenses scandal doesn’t mean we love him. far from it. most of the UK can’t stand him.
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:55 am
Bosch, curious. Why do you and AmVet dislike Christians so much?
RW-(the original)
December 10th, 2009
11:55 am
LA,
Good job hanging in there over the last few days. I have no idea why Jay B decided to attack you right out of the box when you first showed up unless he’s just a bully that sensed a weakness. His myrmidons seem to be delighting in personal attacks on the one target, LA, that Jay B has made fair game, but you’re weathering the onslaught well. Keep up the good work.
The only tips I can offer is that you might want to triple check your facts and in the case of some of them even your spelling.
Jenifer
December 10th, 2009
11:56 am
“Now that the tables have turned, you guys or in your case, girls, can’t seem to understand why people would hate the good and glorious Obama!”
It does seem strange. Most people love those who are good and glorious.
Taxpayer
December 10th, 2009
11:56 am
Did FOXY news cover the aftermath of the ACORN story and the stuff about other companies defrauding the government. I can’t recall seeing anything on it. Perhaps LA knows the story and would share it with us.
Willie
December 10th, 2009
11:56 am
Oh yeah dont forget the religious athiests!
Bob
December 10th, 2009
11:57 am
As the esteemed meterologist William Gray said, “This is just an ususal occurance, not anything “caused” by the actions of man. We have all been sold a bill of goods so that we will humbly bow to the UN, which declared their goal of world wide government just yesterday in Copenhagen. The UN has an agenda to take control of all you do and say and getting you to buy in to global warming is just a step in that direction. Check out UN Agenda 21 on youtube.
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:57 am
RW-(the original), Jay didn’t attack me. I like and respect Jay Bookman.
But yes, 1 against 5 liberal attack mice is pretty fun but overwhelming at times. But it’s pretty fun.
Especially when one can call out their utter hypocrisy.
getalife
December 10th, 2009
11:57 am
Tips for the sock puppet.
Now that is funny.
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2009
11:57 am
“I wish the rapture would come, take them away so the rest of us can live in peace”
or vice versa?
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:57 am
Taxpayer, I would not know. I watch MSNBC.
vince neil
December 10th, 2009
11:57 am
this recession is a result of several things….famed chaosit and acorn supporter George Soros shorting the dollar, chinese hoarding of fuel driving up oil futures (causing 4.00 gas in the U.S.) and the crazy federally driven notion (largely supported by democrats in congress and some R) that everyone should own a home forcing banks to make poorly documented loans causing unsustainable inflation in real estate value (esp in NV, FL and CA)……you can blame GW all you want but proof exists right now that the community organizer and his ivy league educated thugs have no idea what to do about it…..and are making it worse….I’m just sayin!
Jake
December 10th, 2009
11:58 am
Doggone – Feeling the Christmas spirit so soon? I would have thought you’d suggest I should eat the liver!
Bosch – That’s at least one area where we agree.
LA
December 10th, 2009
11:58 am
Jenifer, very true. But the ones who usually come with “good intentions’ end up being the worst of humanity.
Outhouse Go-Kart
December 10th, 2009
11:59 am
Or perhaps a whale hunting expedition? Watch for the return of “Whale Wars”. All these panty wearing conservationist getting their hineys whipped by the Japanese then crying like 6 year olds.
Its hilarious.
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2009
11:59 am
“But the ones who usually come with “good intentions’ end up being the worst of humanity.”
Like Jesus?
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
11:59 am
“Especially when one can call out their utter hypocrisy.”
And yet refuses to see their own.
USinUK
December 10th, 2009
12:00 pm
LA –
“USinUK, I then why didn’t you say Bush Sr? I do remember well, for 8 years, you libs blamed Bush for everything.”
you really do need to scroll up and READ.
“Now that the tables have turned, you guys or in your case, girls, can’t seem to understand why people would hate the good and glorious Obama!”
of course we understand why you hate Obama – he’s not a Republican. plain and simple.
LA
December 10th, 2009
12:00 pm
RW-(the original), Jay Bookman actually came out and defended me against Mrs. Godzilla, who has yet to apologize for accusing me of being someone else.
As far as facts go, I try but I get bombarded with 5 other attackers so it’s kind of hard at times. Spelling, yeah I should work on my grammar, huh?
LA
December 10th, 2009
12:01 pm
Bosch wrote: And yet refuses to see their own.
Yep Bosch, I think I will start calling you Newt Gingrich, or maybe Jim Baker.
People who are going after other people ALL while doing the exact same thing.
Bosch Gingrich!
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
12:02 pm
LA,
Call me whatever you want, but you refuse to see your own hypocrisy – we can all read here.
LA
December 10th, 2009
12:03 pm
USinUK, one, I never said I hate Obama. Not once. Your words not mine.
Two, I don;t like President Obama because he’s broken most of his campaign promises. Oh, and by the way, I voted for the guy.
And no, I’m not showing you my voting record. It’s against the law.
LA
December 10th, 2009
12:04 pm
Bosch, yes Bosch Gingrich, we can all read. We can read where you and others threw out name calling and snide remarks before I did.
How does it feel to be caught at your own game?
Bosch Gingrich (Master of hypocrisy)
Paul
December 10th, 2009
12:04 pm
parsley 11:43
Ignorance is Bliss?
Outhouse Go-Kart
December 10th, 2009
12:05 pm
No…simply stated the kenyan is incompetent, immature, fraudulent, half-baked, dimwitted…etc.
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
12:05 pm
LA,
When did I call you a name?
USinUK
December 10th, 2009
12:05 pm
doggone – “Like Jesus?”
don’t forget Ghandi.
and MLK, Jr.
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2009
12:06 pm
“Ignorance is Bliss?”
How about: some of us are at work and are not able to view it right now.
DAVID
December 10th, 2009
12:06 pm
SO….SO many gullible idiots on the Left—-Just morons
getalife
December 10th, 2009
12:06 pm
Newt is saying the te-abaggers starting a third party will ki=ll a gop comeback.
I say go for it te-baggers.
LA
December 10th, 2009
12:07 pm
Bosch Gingrich, I think it interesting that you poke fun at Christians yet throw out judgments upon other people. Kind of makes you…….judgmental!
Your kind is often quick to call Christians judgmental but here you are……being judgmental.
Pot meet kettle.
Logic
December 10th, 2009
12:07 pm
Where is the proof that MAN is causing global warming?
Where is the proof that MAN can stop global warming?
Paul
December 10th, 2009
12:08 pm
getalife
“GE is Obama’s Haliburton”
Again, you cut through the fog -
Taxpayer
December 10th, 2009
12:08 pm
LA,
What did MSNBC have to say about the news of other corporations that defrauded the government after the ACORN matter got pushed by the Republicans. I can’t recall. How about you.
RW-(the original)
December 10th, 2009
12:08 pm
LA,
I really don’t know if there have been people attacking your spelling or grammar, but they’ll certainly go there when they can’t find anything else. I really don’t have time to read most of the comments so I didn’t know Jay B came to your defense once, I did see him going after you on one thread though and his disciples sure seem to think their job is to attack you.
Gotta run though. Enjoy !
LA
December 10th, 2009
12:09 pm
Bosch Gingrich (sigh), you none to bright is you!
I said that YOU, AmVet and Jennifer called me names AND made snide remarks. SNIDE remarks!
Make sense? Should I have Big Bird and Elmo make up a song and sing it to you?
H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y la la la……spells hypocrisy.
Cue Oscar the grouch on drums.
USinUK
December 10th, 2009
12:09 pm
LA –
“USinUK, one, I never said I hate Obama. Not once. Your words not mine”
ah, by “people” you don’t mean you. got it. except that you don’t like him by your own admission.
meanwhile … you seem to enjoy flinging things around with no basis in fact … ACORN soliciting prostitutes, the PM in a porn scandal, people thinking the PM is a saint (yet still going down in flames, which I don’t quite understand your math on that one) …
seriously, dude. slow down. take a deep breath. think. and, when all else fails, follow RW’s advice and do a little fact-checking BEFORE your post … you’ll save yourself a world of embarassment.
Logic
December 10th, 2009
12:10 pm
Bud W. … You the man.
Jay … You the moron.
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
12:10 pm
LA,
But you are calling ME a hypocrite – so when did I – me – Bosch call you a name?
LA
December 10th, 2009
12:10 pm
Taxpayer, let me look it up in my mind navicomputer……beep beep beep……..still looking…..does not compute. Maybe you could restate that question.
Paul
December 10th, 2009
12:10 pm
G’morning, Doggone/GA!
It may put it in context if I included parsey’s entire comment:
“Anyone want to discuss it? Any holes in the presentation? Any data collection or presentation that looked off? Were the conclusions sound?”
How nervewracking! I’m biting my nails.”
Amazing how people with a lack of curiosity yet with a supposed grand understanding love to toss out their barbs -
LA
December 10th, 2009
12:11 pm
USinUK, I’m sure you and I have a lot in common. For instance, I love the UK and would love to live in London. My great great great…………….grandfather was the great Captain Cook! The famous explorer.
I believe he discovered Hawaii.
AmVet
December 10th, 2009
12:12 pm
getalife, as always you nails the nonsensical…
Might as well ask the conned to do a high school paper comparing and contrasting anthropogenic climate change and aliens with rectal probes…
Maybe I’ll change my name to Snidely Whiplash: Bondage Practitioner!
Either that or Studley Do Right…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhC_JJwlep0
Paul
December 10th, 2009
12:12 pm
Logic 12:07
Did you scan through the posts or begin here?
If you’re open to a new way of looking at things:
http://www.byub.org/talks/Talk.aspx?id=2994
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
December 10th, 2009
12:13 pm
Hey, one of the socialists finally had the guts to say it-
“Dealing with climate change is not simply an issue of CO2 emission reduction but a comprehensive challenge involving political, economic, social, cultural and ecological issues, and the population concern fits right into the picture,” said Zhao, who is a member of the Chinese government delegation.
Opens the door for you, bookman.
allen981
December 10th, 2009
12:13 pm
How to explain the global warming of Medieval times? (It was real.) How to explain the warming of prehistoric times, and the cooling that killed the dinosaurs? How to explain the recent (yes, recent) Ice Ages?
Two words: The Sun.
The planet has been subject to up and down climate swings since its birth. Only in the past 100 years has man been aware of such changes, much less contributed to them. It is out and out arrogance to think that man is so important that we could change the path of Mother Nature – for good or bad.
Does anyone realize just how short the presence of modern society has been in the context of the planet’s age? It is convenient to forget that just 30 years ago, the “science” pointed to cooling, not warming. That is little more than a nanosecond relative to the age of the Earth.
The Libs want everyone on the planet to change their lives, surrender freedoms, and live as fiefs in a new land of government control. Their goal is not to save the planet, it is to control the planet and every living thing on it, all in order to feed their collective guilt over the fact that life is not equally fair to all people.
Here’s the reality: the population of this planet is exploding. People need electricity; they need cars, a way of life, recreation, food, and freedom. They’re going to demand it, over time, and in turn create new demands for energy. And guess what? All the “green” technology in the world won’t be enough to meet the demand. Oil – which is not running out, despite what Jimmy Carter said – will remain in demand. Coal will create electricity. Nuclear power will be come essential; that’s a good thing, because it is the safest source of power known. It’s also kind to environment; ever seen an eagle wrapped in a windmill? It’s not pretty.
Bottom line: the planet may be warming, but we didn’t cause it and and we can’t stop it. Let’s adjust, which humanity is pretty good at, and make the best of it.
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2009
12:13 pm
“Amazing how people with a lack of curiosity”
And maybe Parsley is like me…unable to view it now and hoping it will at least be discussed by those who CAN so we’ll have some idea of what’s in it and what the viewers think of it.
LA
December 10th, 2009
12:14 pm
Bosch, please……see…….my………12:09 pm……..post. Thanks
Kamchak
December 10th, 2009
12:15 pm
Two, I don;t like President Obama because he’s broken most of his campaign promises.
Time to pull this out again.
Paul
December 10th, 2009
12:16 pm
allen981
If you’d like to see a scientifically-based presentation that breaks out (isolates for) naturally-occurring and man-caused events, I’ve posted the link several times now.
LA
December 10th, 2009
12:16 pm
AmVet wrote:
Might as well ask the conned to do a high school paper comparing and contrasting anthropogenic climate change and aliens with rectal probes…
Hmmmmmm, do you know anything about those “probes”, AmVet?
LOLOL! That was a joke, don’t go R. Lee Ermy on me!
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
12:17 pm
LA,
You are basing that I am THE master hypocrite based on one snide remark I made – when you have dosed out about twenty this morning? Including calling others names. Is that it?
And you don’t see the hypocrisy in THAT?
jt
December 10th, 2009
12:17 pm
That was some good investigative reporting on Bookman’s part.
What no one seems to understand is that Global WARMING is not the real threat. It is merely a symptom of,
Global ACCELERATION.
Planetory (or Global) ACCELERATION explains everything and there are people in Copenhagen studying up on it,
as we blog.
Bosch
December 10th, 2009
12:17 pm
Paul,
Did you chase that imposter away?
LA
December 10th, 2009
12:18 pm
Kamchack, that little blog is from: PolitiFact is a project of the St. Petersburg Times to help you find the truth in American politics.
Nice try! That’s like a right winger pulling a fact checking poll from Fox News or Rush Limbaugh!
St. Pete Times is a left wing rag that is hemorrhaging money right now.