Obama issues orders to begin Afghan escalation

I’m trying to catch up from a great holiday/vacation and put together a column on this topic for tomorrow, but in the meantime, from Fox:

“Top military and diplomatic officials got their marching orders Sunday evening from President Obama ahead of a planned speech Tuesday in which he’s expected to outline his new Afghanistan war strategy and call for about 30,000 more U.S. troops to be sent to the war zone.

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Obama issued the orders during a meeting in the Oval Office Sunday.

While offering few details of the contents of Obama’s speech — to be delivered at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y. — he stressed that the president will discuss the importance of an exit strategy.

“This is not an open-ended commitment,” Gibbs said.”

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Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
12:21 pm

Obobo lied our troops died.

@@

November 30th, 2009
12:24 pm

It really is a shame that Obama is placing his political capital above the value of our troops.

He’s still trying to make everybody happy. Can’t do that as leader. Tough decisions HAVE to be made.

I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 30th, 2009
12:33 pm

Why is the exit strategy so much more important than defeating the terrorists who attacked our country?

Is that even a part of the “plan?”

danjonglee

November 30th, 2009
12:37 pm

There’s a little story out about how scientist scewed data to fit there GW world view….might be something to look into….

Doggone/GA

November 30th, 2009
12:39 pm

“Why is the exit strategy so much more important than defeating the terrorists who attacked our country?”

Why attacking Iraq so much more important than defeating the terrorists who attacked our country?

Doggone/GA

November 30th, 2009
12:42 pm

“There’s a little story out about how scientist scewed data to fit there GW world view….might be something to look into”

There’s a little lie out about how scientist scewed data to fit there GW world view….might be something to look into

Jefferson

November 30th, 2009
12:43 pm

A mistake to continue in that place.

Shawny

November 30th, 2009
12:48 pm

Imagine what Obama’s position on additional troops would be if he were still the junior senator from IL.

Jess

November 30th, 2009
12:49 pm

Jay,

I’m surprised you are quoting Fox. Shouldn’t you wait until a real news source confirms.

@@

November 30th, 2009
12:52 pm

Bottom line…. Obama has failed to take the advice of HIS chosen one, McChrystal. During the campaign, Afghanistan was for HIS win. Now Afghanistan is, once again, in hopes of HIS personal win. Stratfor’s take:

The normal course of these things is that you put some more troops in because it is easier politically and diplomatically than pulling out or dramatically increasing your forces to a level of real significance. You keep doing that. It is like boiling a frog. It is done so slowly that the frog is dead before he realizes he’s dying.

It’s kinda like kissing a frog…he turns into a prince. With Obama it’ll be the reverse.

Kiss a prince, you get a frog.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 30th, 2009
12:53 pm

So bookman, charging our soldiers with a crime for bloodying the lip of a terrorist caught on the battlefield, right or wrong?

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
1:05 pm

If only the previous administration had had a clue….we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Damn Bush. Damn Cheney. Damn them all.

Rightwing Troll

November 30th, 2009
1:06 pm

Looks like Iran is Right’s mom caught him on the computer when he was supposed to be staying home from school sick today… I’ll bet he got a good spanking.

Rightwing Troll

November 30th, 2009
1:07 pm

Yep,
We shoulda had OBL at Tora Bora and been done… Damn Rummy too…

Jefferson

November 30th, 2009
1:15 pm

You can’t win at tic-tac-toe.

N-GA

November 30th, 2009
1:19 pm

Let me see……if the President who made this decision was a Bush or a Cheney, these trolls would be calling the leftists “traitors”, anti-American wimps, etc.

What a difference an election makes. Just sayin’

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
1:20 pm

Obobo lied and our troops died.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 30th, 2009
1:21 pm

RASMUSSEN: 71% Angry at Federal Government, Up Five Points Since September; 46% Very Angry, up 10 points… Developing…

And you just know that the remaining 29%, spineless liberals all, love the federal government with all of their heart. Well, except for that little spot they have for trial lawyers, ew.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 30th, 2009
1:22 pm

N-GA has two comments this morning after a long weekend, both of them incoherent.

Throw down for Thanksgiving, did we?

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
1:24 pm

The MOST LIBERAL PERSON IN HISTORY (!!!) aka George Bush II has likely sealed his fate with this insane decision.

One and done.

We’ll see if the left wing dolts in this country are just as stupid and blind as their right wing cousins were in 2000 and 2004.

And STILL the gutless conned won’t even salute their “War President” for furthering their vicarious, wanton bloodlust and further stretching a US military already stretched to the breaking point.

(Support the Troops.)

But BlackWater nee Xe, Haliburton, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrup Gruman, Raytheon, General Dynamics, TRW, Honeywell and the rest of BHO’s money masters must be delighted with this decision…

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
1:27 pm

N-GA, I concur.

The yellow conned ONLY support invasions, escalations and occupations if they are done by someone with an R after their name.

And if the R’s f&ck it up every inch of the way, all the better…

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
1:28 pm

Oh how cute. The wingnuts are all anti-war now.

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
1:29 pm

“When we (NOT ME!!!) elected you we didn’t expect miracles. We didn’t even expect much change. But we expected some. We thought you would stop the madness. Stop the killing. Stop the insane idea that men with guns can reorganize a nation that doesn’t even function as a nation and never, ever has,” ~Michael Moore

Like his predecessor, this CiC is nothing more than an accomplished liar…

therese persaud

November 30th, 2009
1:31 pm

Doggone/GA

We were not attacked by Afghans ! If I remember correctly, the ‘alleged’ attackers were from Saudi Arabia!! . Wonder why we don’t bomb Saudi Arabia?

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
1:31 pm

OBOBO…As you promised, bring our troops home NOW and DONT forget the Heroine!

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
1:32 pm

therese persaud

November 30th, 2009
1:31 pm

Wow…where have you been for the last 8 years.

Peadawg

November 30th, 2009
1:32 pm

How do y’all like this “change” now, huh? The “YOU LIE” incident comes to mind right about now….

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
1:32 pm

Obobo lied and our troops died!

Midori

November 30th, 2009
1:33 pm

Oh how cute. The wingnuts are all anti-war now.

LOLOL!!!

:lol:

Midori

November 30th, 2009
1:34 pm

Peadawg,

as if it ever left your “mind”…..

Contractor

November 30th, 2009
1:36 pm

Either give our troops (Comanders)every thing they need to WIN, or Get The H— Out.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
1:36 pm

Contractor

November 30th, 2009
1:37 pm

Give our troops (Comanders) everthing they need, Or Get Out.

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
1:39 pm

Doggone/GA

November 30th, 2009
1:42 pm

“We were not attacked by Afghans !”

Quite right, we were not…but they WERE giving valuable aid and support to Bin Laden, who bankrolled and masterminded the attack.

” If I remember correctly, the ‘alleged’ attackers were from Saudi Arabia!! . Wonder why we don’t bomb Saudi Arabia?”

You aren’t the first, and won’t be the last, to ask that question.

@@

November 30th, 2009
1:42 pm

Well, there’s always Bill’s failure to accept Bin Laden when offered up.

Clinton: So we tried to be quite aggressive with them [al Qaeda]. We got – well, Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we’d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, ’cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn’t and that’s how he wound up in Afghanistan.

Clinton later claimed to have misspoken and stated that there had never been an offer to turn over bin Laden. It is clear, however, that Berger, at least, did consider the possibility of bringing bin Laden to the U.S., but, as he told The Washington Post in 2001, “The FBI did not believe we had enough evidence to indict bin Laden at that time, and therefore opposed bringing him to the United States.”

Even Sandy (in his pants) Berger admitted the option was available.

“The FBI did not believe we had enough evidence to indict bin Laden at that time, and therefore opposed bringing him to the United States.”

Who knows? Had Bill done what needed to be done, all the innocent victims of Sept. 11, 2001 might have been spared.

But then that’s the part of the story no liberal/progressive/democrat wants to read. The ending….Sept. 11, 2001 is on Bill’s page in history.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 30th, 2009
1:43 pm

One moonbat says we are warmongers, another moonbat says we are antiwar, could you moonbats have a meeting and get back to us on the outcome?

Peadawg

November 30th, 2009
1:43 pm

As many broken campaign promises Obama has made, no it never left my mind. I’m just wondering when the people that voted for him will realize this as well.

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
1:44 pm

I wonder how far BHO had to stick his tongue up Gordon Brown’s ___ to get that lackey bloke to send another 500 soldiers to Quagmire Part Deux…

@@

November 30th, 2009
1:47 pm

Oh how cute. The wingnuts are all anti-war now.

Difference being, we didn’t elect a pro-war president in 2000. The liberals/progressives/democrats did in 2008. Afghanistan was Obama’s “right war”.

His supporters bought it…..they own it.

N-GA

November 30th, 2009
1:50 pm

Bedwetter (re – your 1:43 post):

Actually it’s simple. You are warmongers when the GOP/Neocons are in the White House and you are antiwar when the White House is occupied by anyone else.

BTW…are you humping my leg (counting the number of posts I make)? Doesn’t that make you a stalker?

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
1:50 pm

@@

November 30th, 2009
1:42 pm

Funny how they, the dems, forgot that little nugget let alone dont dare mention it.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
1:53 pm

@@,

When did Obama say he was going to pull out of Afghanistan during the election?

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
1:54 pm

Rachel Uchitel…yummy!

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
1:54 pm

“I would be very careful about using our troops as nation-builders.” ~George of the Bungle 2000

Careful with that tongue George.

No, they didn’t elect a “War President”.

They elected a liar.

@@

November 30th, 2009
1:57 pm

Boog:

Their memory only serves what’s in their best interest at any given moment. They wanted the giveaways, but couldn’t get those without supporting Obama’s war.

They have no principles on which to stand.

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
1:58 pm

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
1:53 pm

We are not gonna go over that again. He said it. Obobo lied and out troops died.

Eric

November 30th, 2009
1:59 pm

I am sure I understood Obama to be against war escalation and in favor of bringing our troops home. Yet another example of why we don’t trust our elected officials anymore.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
1:59 pm

Boogers,

When?

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
1:59 pm

@@

November 30th, 2009
1:57 pm

Absolutely! Then when they are proven wrong they run like chickens in storm.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:00 pm

@@,

“Their memory only serves what’s in their best interest at any given moment. They wanted the giveaways, but couldn’t get those without supporting Obama’s war.

They have no principles on which to stand”

Nice boxed in thinking there.

Kamchak

November 30th, 2009
2:01 pm

No, they didn’t elect a “War President”.

They elected a liar.

At least he was someone you could have a beer with.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:02 pm

Boogers,

When has someone ever been proved wrong here?

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
2:03 pm

Hello, Jay. I hope you had a fine Thanksgiving holiday and are now ready to return to your daily grind. Til Christmas holidays, at least.

Anyway, Obama is getting ready to ship some more poor souls — each valued at $1 million US Currency, annually — off to build escalators in the mountains, or some such nonsense. Well, at least the IRS has cracked down on a few more of the freeloaders, residing here in the states, to help pick up their tab. And, as any good, for nothing, Dick would tell you, “Hey, they volunteered.” So, it’s all good. “Qu’ils mangent de la brioche.”

@@

November 30th, 2009
2:03 pm

Bosch:

Obama said he was going into Afghanistan. You know that. Why ask such a stoopid question?

All during his campaign, liberals/progressives/democrats, here and elsewhere, kept saying we should go after Bin Laden in Afghanistan. I kept telling all of you he wasn’t in Afghanistan….that he was in Pakistan.

I recall one of you asked how I knew that. I pointed to intelligence reports that said he was in Pakistan. Some even promoted invading a sovereign nation (Pakistan) in order to get OBL.

A bunch of knee-jerk reactionaries when they wanna/need to be.

A weird bunch….and that’s being kind.

Midori

November 30th, 2009
2:04 pm

Hi Mrs. G, Bosch, Amvet :)

Well, there’s always Bill’s failure to accept Bin Laden when offered up.

Today’s lesson, boys and girls: stupid is as stupid does. And it gets stupider (not true or truer) each and every time that stupidity is repeated.

Peadawg: I didn’t know Obama made promises to you. On the contrary, I thought you didn’t even vote for him. What’s the deal?

mm

November 30th, 2009
2:04 pm

As usual, the wingnuts have an excuse for everything.

Cheney/Palin 2012!!!!!!!!

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
2:05 pm

But when Bush drank he was an alcohol fueled, drug crazed lunatic. You dems can dish it but ya cant take it. Fact it your boy, obobo, is a failure, a fraud and a liar.

Obobo lied our troops died.

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
2:07 pm

That dorky, faux rancher, faux Texan, faux Christian teetotaler?

The only toast I would make to him would be when he was put in an 8 X 12.

@@

November 30th, 2009
2:07 pm

Bosch:

Nice boxed in thinking there.

If you say so, dude.

Unlike you, I’m not here for socialization. I’m not here to swish the washy.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
2:08 pm

Actually with the passage of HCR Obama will be the most productive
President since WWII.

Just cause ya’ don’t like what he’s done, doesn’t alter the list of accomplishments.

danjonglee

November 30th, 2009
2:09 pm

A couple of rogue emails….no big deal….right.?

Common Sense

November 30th, 2009
2:09 pm

I would like for one of you liberals out there to tell me how this new policy from “Obama the Warrior” squares with his campaign promises and what you are going to do about it ?

@@

November 30th, 2009
2:10 pm

Today’s lesson, boys and girls: stupid is as stupid does. And it gets stupider (not true or truer) each and every time that stupidity is repeated.

Bill’s and Sandy’s own words prove their stupidity. Your failure to acknowledge their truth makes you look like an ostrich with nuthin’ “butt” their tail feathers showin’.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:11 pm

@@,

I know Obama said he was going to CONTINUE the efforts in Afghanistan. That wasn’t the question.

When did he say he was going to pull out of Afghanistan during the election? We bought it? We knew what he was most likely going to do in Afghanistan – did we (me) like it? I didn’t, lots others didn’t either. Did we vote for him anyway? Yes.

Because we have faith that he won’t go invade Syria or some other country that is not in this fight like Bush did Iraq.

Do you always label those you dislike based on what one individual writes? Don’t answer that because we all know it’s true.

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 30th, 2009
2:11 pm

“…doesn’t alter the list of accomplishments.” Uh huh huh huh huh huh!

Jake

November 30th, 2009
2:12 pm

I just pray we can survive another 38 months of this National Nightmare. If you think the stimulus, foreign policy, and health care plans are abyssmal, just wait until ‘cap and trade’.

Peadawg

November 30th, 2009
2:12 pm

“Peadawg: I didn’t know Obama made promises to you. On the contrary, I thought you didn’t even vote for him. What’s the deal?”

Midori, he made promises to this country you smartars(including you). You’re not angry he’s sending MORE troops over there?
You’re correct Mr. Obvious, I didn’t vote for him and I’m very happy about my decision. This way, I can say “I told you so” for every campaign promise he breaks.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:13 pm

@@,

Yes, I say so. Blanket statements labeling those you do not like is very dangerous behavior.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:13 pm

Block,

Tell us a campaign promise he broke regarding Afghanistan and we’ll talk.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:14 pm

Jake,

Don’t worry – we survived MUCH worse during 2000-2008.

Peadawg

November 30th, 2009
2:14 pm

“Actually with the passage of HCR Obama will be the most productive
President since WWII.”

Productive as in continually adding the deficit (which he said he wouldn’t)?

Breaking the most campaign promises?

What do you mean “most productive”?

Kamchak

November 30th, 2009
2:14 pm

Boog:

Their memory only serves what’s in their best interest at any given moment. They wanted the giveaways, but couldn’t get those without supporting Obama’s war.

They have no principles on which to stand.

Yep—sounds like someone is telling us how others think.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
2:15 pm

Boogers

huh huh – does “snot” alter the list either

Midori

November 30th, 2009
2:17 pm

But when Bush drank he was an alcohol fueled, drug crazed lunatic

what do you mean “WAS”, Kemosabe?

Jake

November 30th, 2009
2:22 pm

Bosch – That’s the essence of the problem, that was horrible, the last ten months have been worse. Bigger deficits, more money wasted and lives lost in the totally hopeless cause that is Afghanistan, health care reform that will do more harm than good, and strong movements in the direction of collectivism.

@@

November 30th, 2009
2:23 pm

Bosch:

I don’t wanna engage in your one-man circular jerk. You’re hopeless and it shows.

Midori

November 30th, 2009
2:23 pm

and you are putting all of this at Obama’s feet, Jake?

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The American People

November 30th, 2009
2:23 pm

Obama has relied on “unprecedented” in more than 90 instances, using the word at least 129 times in everything from major addresses to small speeches, statements, memorandums and proclamations.

Unprecedented loss of popularity in 11 months
Unprecedented lies
Unprecedented corruption
Unprecedented smoke and mirrors
Unprecedented use of the phrase “shout out” by a world leader
Unprecedented Secret Service issues
Unprecedented spending
Unprecedented bows

Midori

November 30th, 2009
2:24 pm

Bosch,

translation of 2:23: I got nothing!!

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:25 pm

@@,

You tell others how and what to think — I may be hopeless, but you are dangerous.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
2:25 pm

Peadawg

Here:

http://www.slate.com/id/2236708/

and here

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/11/19/805925/-90-Accomplishments-of-Pres.-Obama-Which-The-Media-Fails-to-Report

But be careful, Peadawg, these are left wing websites and they have their eye on you……

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:25 pm

Hey Midori!

Sad, isn’t it?

getalife

November 30th, 2009
2:26 pm

Can we bribe the taliban ?

Looks like the Pakistani president is leaving by giving the nuke codes to their military.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:27 pm

Jake,

Get real. That’s your perspective. Do you also run around screaming that Obama has p*ssed on public property when he takes a whizz at the White House?

@@

November 30th, 2009
2:30 pm

Bosch:

You tell others how and what to think — I may be hopeless, but you are dangerous.

Is ^^^ that your opinion or boxed in thinking?

Two can play your stoopid game. You’re stuck on stoopid, dude!

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:32 pm

@@,

It’s my opinion – your boxed in thinking is on display for all to see.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
2:38 pm

Bosch

Carefull or she will “perish” you……

@@

November 30th, 2009
2:38 pm

Bosch:

It’s my opinion – your boxed in thinking is on display for all to see.

Wouldn’t that depend on who’s reading it?

You wanna box me in with your opinion?

Ain’t gonna happen, and I’m not interested in talking about your home renovations, what you like to eat, and “V” or whatever the heck it is you watch on the TeeWee. Nor am I into talking about how much you like your drugs and drink.

Do I make myself clear?

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
2:40 pm

Bosch, I always suspected that you are one dangerous dude!

(Just don’t tell me anything that would then force you to kill me.)

The stuck on stupid and stuck in the past Republidupes have just been polled (or is poled?).

Their most influential “conservative”? The Manteats in Black aka HeadRush Limbaugh at 26%

Next? Glenn “Boo Hoo” Beck at 11%.

But wait!

It gets even better!

Third is DickHead’s “Got a gun” Cheney at 10%. Tied with Sarah BarraClueless.

PITIFUL does not even begin to adequately describe that situation…

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:40 pm

@@,

You box yourself in with what you write, not my opinions.

And, I really don’t give a flying rat’s ass what YOU are interested in. Clear?

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:42 pm

AmVet,

“Bosch, I always suspected that you are one dangerous dude!”

You have NO idea. :evil:

@@

November 30th, 2009
2:45 pm

And, I really don’t give a flying rat’s ass what YOU are interested in.

That’s EXACTLY my point, Bosch. You’re only interested in this site as a social circle.

I’m looking for something a little more in depth. You’ve got nothing to offer in that respect.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:50 pm

@@,

“You’re only interested in this site as a social circle.”

And that’s exactly MY point. You have no idea what my interests in this site involve, yet you don’t mind being so arrogant as to tell me what I think.

Don’t tell me what I think or what my interests are. To think you have that kind of power, is extremely dangerous.

“I’m looking for something a little more in depth.”

Like your cut and paste Stratfor pieces? The kind that most of us get in our email boxes every day and can read for ourselves? Like that?

Or this?:

“one-man circular jerk”

“You’ve got nothing to offer in that respect.”

Well, I think others disagree with you on that – and as always you can scroll past my name.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
2:51 pm

…social circle is the first dangerous step to socialism….

imagine what collecting Hummels leads to….

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
2:55 pm

Mrs. G.,

What’s a social circle?

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
2:56 pm

A little more background info. on Social Circle.

@@

November 30th, 2009
3:00 pm

Bosch:

You have no idea what my interests in this site involve, yet you don’t mind being so arrogant as to tell me what I think.

I can read your posts…chosen topics…and pretty much ascertain wherein your interests lie.

I throw in the Stratfor pieces for added perspective. If people wanna discuss, FINE…if not that’s O.K.. Your buddy, Paul likes ‘em. Has even asked that I keep posting ‘em.

I scroll past your name all the time. Most of my responses to you come after you decide to yack-it-up (gossip like a girl) about something I’ve said or done.

You’re a needy little girl, that way.

Now….just so others can enjoy this site, would you like to move along, sweetie?

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
3:02 pm

What’s a social circle?

Yeah Taxpayer is right. It’s a dumpy little place you get to by going out I-20 past Covington and hanging a left.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
3:05 pm

Bosch

A social circle is simply a gathering of people being social.
This blog is a social circle with a few un-sociable members.

It’s also a small town in GA – home of the Blue Willow Inn – good country eats in a beautiful old home.

@@

November 30th, 2009
3:08 pm

I was thinking along the lines of this kinda “social circle(s)”.

Social circles also overlap. For example, there may be people who work together who are also in the same tennis club or >>>coffee clatch,<<< or you may know someone independently of a mutual friend.

Social circles tend to have unique sets of norms and values. When an individual does not comply with them, the individual may be ostracized, admonished, or even embarrassed by other members of the group.

You know…..girly stuff!

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:09 pm

@@,

Of course you can read my posts and see where SOME of my interests are, but as to what I get out of this blog, and why I chose to participate here, YOU don’t have omniscient rule on that.

YOU don’t get to say why I come here and what I get out of what I read here. And again, for you to even consider that you have that kind of power is extremely dangerous behavior. It’s extremism at it’s worst.

If you scroll past my posts all the time, then how do you know what my interests are? You are contradicting yourself here, but that’s nothing new.

“You’re a needy little girl, that way.”

So you insist upon calling me a “girl.” I’m assuming you mean that as an insult.

The thing is – I like girls and women. I think the female species is a formidable force which should be treated with respect.

I wonder why you would choose that word to insult me? Self loathing?

“Now….just so others can enjoy this site, would you like to move along,”

Again, with the belief that you have that power over anyone. Do you also make it a habit to speak for everyone too?

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:13 pm

@@,

“You know…..girly stuff!”

No, I don’t know – tell us more. What do you mean by “girly stuff?”

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
3:13 pm

Mrs. G,

I’m assuming you mean “social” in a virtual sort of way. Then again, some of you might actually get face-to-face. I’m just glad you did not go and use the word sociable to describe this little virtual community even though the term may apply to subsets of said population from time to time.

Peadawg

November 30th, 2009
3:13 pm

“It’s also a small town in GA – home of the Blue Willow Inn – good country eats in a beautiful old home.”

And speed-trapping cops who sit 50 ft past a speed limit sign……

“I think the female species is a formidable force…”

Every month, yes :) .

Kamchak

November 30th, 2009
3:14 pm

Bosch

She calls me a turnip–and I am fond of turnips.

@@

November 30th, 2009
3:16 pm

Bosch:

There’s a big difference between a girl and a woman. Girls, more often than not, will succumb to peer pressure. A strong, independent woman won’t.

I’m the latter.

Now let’s end this so others can offer up something of interest.

Heck! You can even talk about spitting up on your computer screen….getting your li’l screen cleaner out.

Common Sense

November 30th, 2009
3:16 pm

Bosch:

I am a conservative and Bush did a many things wrong. I call ‘em like I see ‘em.

If I showed you 100 campaign promises Obama had broken it wouldn’t matter to you because the end justifies the means in the eyes of liberals. Your people can do no wrong.

That’s the basic difference between us ……. truthfulness even when it hurts.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:18 pm

Peadawg,

Well, yeah, but I think women and girls should be treated with respect and not used as a label to insult others you don’t agree with.

Apparently I have more respect for women than some.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
3:18 pm

Did someone say rutabaga

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:20 pm

“If I showed you 100 campaign promises Obama had broken it wouldn’t matter to you because the end justifies the means in the eyes of liberals. Your people can do no wrong.

That’s the basic difference between us ……. truthfulness even when it hurts.”

Is it my imagination or is it just common practice for some here to feel like they know what is “the truth and what is not?” To make sweeping blanket statements and tell us what we all think?

Block,

How do you KNOW what I would think before you even ask? Do you have a special crystal ball? Are you telepathic?

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
3:21 pm

Peadawg

When most people think of PMS they think of women. However, researchers recently discovered that many men suffer from a condition similar to PMS called irritable male syndrome (IMS). Men with IMS often experience mood swings, stomach cramps and even hot flashes. These symptoms and others are caused by a drop in the male hormone testosterone.

http://www.about-pms.com/articles/pms-basics/male-pms.php

got period pimples?

Doggone/GA

November 30th, 2009
3:21 pm

“because the end justifies the means”

Like attacking Iraq to get Bin Laden…who was actually in Afghanistan?

Peadawg

November 30th, 2009
3:23 pm

Godzilla, I know I have PMS sometimes, it’s called Pissy Male Syndrome.

Bosch, I never said I don’t respect my wife. I just stay locked in my man-room 7 days out of every month :)

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
3:25 pm

When I eat something that disagrees with me, I suffer from Irritable Bowel Syndrome. It could be a monthly thing since we usually cycle through a regular selection of meals in that timeframe. Hmmm. This calls for a study. Captain’s Log, Stardate 001130200900, make note to self to study eating habits more closely.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
3:25 pm

Peadawg

Does your wife hide when you have IMS? Or is she the brave member of the family?

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:26 pm

Peadawg,

I didn’t mean to imply that you didn’t respect your wife, my comments were addressed regarding how some use that word as an insult.

7 days? Geez. Ya’ got daughters? Now, that’s where it gets interesting.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:27 pm

Taxpayer,

“When I eat something that disagrees with me, I suffer from Irritable Bowel Syndrome.”

Thanks for sharing. :???:

Peadawg

November 30th, 2009
3:28 pm

Godzilla, mine last 1 night after a bad day at work…she toughs it out.

No Bosch, we have 2 dogs. No kids yet!!!!!

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
3:29 pm

I just stay locked in my man-room 7 days out of every month.

If I tried that, my wife would take an axe to the bathroom door. What can I say, it’s the po-man’s man-room once you put in a magazine rack.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
3:30 pm

Peadawg

No Offense….but having a husband, and lots o brothers, I don’t buy that one day line……

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:32 pm

@@,

So you have no respect for girls, is that it? So, you chose to use the word “girls” as an insult – I thought you have a daughter, I do, and I would never use the word “girl” as an insult.

In my opinion, it is very disrespectful. As a woman, I am shocked that you would stoop so low as to behave in that way.

I don’t consider it a character trait of a strong independent woman to mock girls. I find the opposite to be the case.

Peadawg

November 30th, 2009
3:32 pm

LOL, Godzilla. You saw right through me…..

Common Sense

November 30th, 2009
3:33 pm

Bosch:

When it comes to liberals …………….. absolutely !

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:35 pm

Block,

When it comes to liberals, absolutely what?

N-GA

November 30th, 2009
3:40 pm

Bosch,

Do you get the impression that there are those on this blog who want us to fail in Afghanistan now that Obama is calling the shots?

You have to wonder why they’ve now decided not to support our troops!

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
3:41 pm

Well, a good p.m. Give y’all credit—there’re some really good one-liners here today…

After reading through, I agree most with AmVet, just call him Bush II if we can believe Jay and Fox. I’ll still reserve judgment until tomorrow. Whatever comes, it’ll be d*mned of you do, d*mned if you don’t for the CiC, but then he did put in a bid for this mess, his bid was accepted, and it’s his baby now…

Tom

November 30th, 2009
3:43 pm

He has no choice but to “escalate” it. The classic alcoholic, BushDrunk lit a fire throughout the entire Middle East – then was dumped out in time to say, “I never cut n ran.” “Mishun Complushed.” And so forth. We should predictably have never set foot in the place. Better yet – send only the GOP never-serveds. Those who play “The Patriot Card.”

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:44 pm

N-GA,

:shock:

What? Say it ain’t so!!!

Midori

November 30th, 2009
3:44 pm

Bosch,

who is “block”?

is it Corporal Agarn?

@@

November 30th, 2009
3:45 pm

Bosch:

I do have a daughter. The one thing I taught her is self-respect….to never allow herself to be led. It’s been a trip, to be sure. It was only after she was away at college that she found great value in asserting her independence. Setting herself apart from the others.

She now stands her ground against all odds.

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony. … form convictions, but once formed they must be defended against the heaviest odds. — Gandhi

Now shoooo…

jconservative

November 30th, 2009
3:48 pm

Reporter – “Why is the exit strategy so much more important than defeating the terrorists who attacked our country?”

Why did the last administration not try to defeat the terrorists who attacked our country? They screwed around for 7+ years but never seriously tried to get bin Laden. So we have now been in Afghanistan for 8+ years and have absolutely nothing to show for it.

And after Obama’s several years we will still have nothing to show for it. Obama is living in “Neverland” just like George W Bush. Must be something in the White House water system.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:49 pm

@@,

So, you taught your daughter to respect herself, yet, you mock girls and use them to label someone as an insult – which is, of course, being a hypocrite.

As a teaching para-professional, and as someone who has access to children – I consider that behavior also to be dangerous and worry about the children you have influence over – especially the girls.

pat

November 30th, 2009
3:50 pm

Goody, may be we can go home with secured victory and increased security with out a thriving al qaeda and taliban. It will shure be a shock when they find out those 72 virgins are men and they are the catcher…
Anyway, I hope the speach does not interupt monday night football…It’s about time he made a decision and finally made a correct decision.

pat

November 30th, 2009
3:51 pm

Damn, shoulda spell checked….

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:52 pm

Midori,

It’s the blogger that refers to him/herself as “Common Sense.” He used “Block 23″ as an add on to his name earlier, and considering the fact that I feel he has no common sense, it pained me to address him with that name, so instead, I decided to shorten the previous name he used to “Block.”

Made it simpler and made more sense to me.

Jake

November 30th, 2009
3:52 pm

Midori, Bosch, et al – Of course it’s all Obama’s doing. As the CiC he’s ordering more troops onto Afghanistan. Obama also submitted a federal budget that includes the largest deficit in the history of the country, in excess of a trillion a year. One of Bush’s greatest sine was that on top of the recession and the war in the Middle East he gave the rich thee biggest tax cut in history. Now, still in recession with dounble digit unemployment and an obviously failed Middle East campaign, Obama is commiting more troops, submitting a budget with an even larger deficit, and trying to get a huge and ultimately very expensive entitlement passed disguised as health care reform.

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
3:55 pm

Midori,

It’s weird that Block uses the same quotes that our old pal Corporal did, but I can’t help but feel he just couldn’t resist his usualy “I was in the Secret Service…….so’s I know all” – routine we were so used to. :-)

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
3:56 pm

If a man who “turnips!” cries,
Cries not when his father dies,
‘Tis proof enough he’d rather,
Have a turnip than a father…

Midori

November 30th, 2009
3:58 pm

LOL Bosch,

hopefully I can still make his “list” :lol:

Jake

November 30th, 2009
3:59 pm

There’s no justification for Afghanistan that I can see. Do you think there’s more hope of changing the government into a stable democracy in Afghan or Iraq? Maybe Bush should have tried to dig out OBL, but we’re not doing that in Afghanistan now either. Most of you are so blinded by party politics that you can no longer distinguish right from wrong. Hundreds of lives and billions of dollars for absolutely nothing in the Middle East is wrong whether Bush does it or Obama does it. Running even larger defcits when we’re already dangerously in debt is wrong, no matter who’s doing it.

N-GA

November 30th, 2009
4:00 pm

Bosch,

Deductive reasoning causes me to speculate that President Obama didn’t agree to increase our troop strength in Afghanistan without some measurable objectives that must be met by our military AND the Afghan government. I will go out on a limb and suggest that if those objectives are not met (in terms of time frame and goals), we will see a winddown of our presence there. And finally I would conclude that none of those objectives will be released to the media.

President Obama expected answers to the following questions:
- What constitutes success (victory?)?
- How do we achieve success?
- How much support do you need?
- How long will it take?
- Will the Afghan government (installed by the previous administration) do what is necessary to get the job done?
- Will the Pakistani government do what is necessary to get the job done?

Do you think that the military and the CIA “dithered” while trying to get the answers to those questions?

Kamchak

November 30th, 2009
4:00 pm

It’s weird that Block uses the same quotes that our old pal Corporal did, but I can’t help but feel he just couldn’t resist his usualy “I was in the Secret Service…….so’s I know all” – routine we were so used to.

Bosch

Then you should check this out.

jconservative

November 30th, 2009
4:00 pm

If I may have a second verse.

Look we spent over 10 years in Viet Nam & lost over 50,000 troops. Now looking back on it what do we have to show for our efforts? Anybody!
Answer the question – what do we have to show for 10+ years in Viet Nam?

Iraq! Same question – we have been in Iraq for 5 1/2 years. What do we have to show for it? A government that may or may not make it?
A society that may or may not revert to another civil war? A nation that may or may not end up with a portion being a Radical Islamic State?
Bottom line – all we have to show for 5+ years in Iraq is more questions. Hell, we didn’t even get any cheap oil out of the place!

“ What experience and history teach is this: that peoples and governments have never learned anything from history. “ Hegel.

Kamchak

November 30th, 2009
4:02 pm

If a man who “turnips!” cries,
Cries not when his father dies,
‘Tis proof enough he’d rather,
Have a turnip than a father…

Funny you should mention that, as my da passed away three weeks ago.

Jay

November 30th, 2009
4:07 pm

“Iran is Right” has now gone bye bye.

Pogo

November 30th, 2009
4:08 pm

Godzilla, while you are “damning” why don’t you “damn” the terrorists that were trained in Afghanistan that started this whole thing? Do they have special glasses for short sightedness and if so, why don’t you get a pair?

I suppose you can now damn Obama too. I remember it so well; only a few short months ago all you could say was, “relax, Obama has got this”. What has he got exactly? He has no leadership ability a’tall and none of the programs him and his dems have pushed through have worked. Meanwhile, the American people bleed, both physically and financially, and this arrogant putz of a president parties on. Sickening.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
4:13 pm

Pogo

Must I do my damning on your schedule?

Rats!

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
4:14 pm

N-GA,

I’ll go out on that limb with you (hopefully it won’t break with both of us on it :-) ) – but I have faith that Obama has very specific objectives, and does not necessarily trust the Afghan government, and I feel that if these goals aren’t made – he will have enough sense to get out. Of course it’s all speculation and we’ll see how he handles it, but I have a feeling it will be alot different than the previous CiC.

As far as the war itself goes, I don’t necessarily support it – I’m willing to try this stategy and see how it works without complaining, but after 8 years, the populace does not have the stomach for another slaughter of our soldiers, and won’t put up with it – and I don’t think Obama does either.

Were they dithering? Hehehe. The wingnuts new favorite word. I think a little, yes. To test the waters, see what was going on with the elections (unless we were behind that all along – for what reason is another topic), and to gather the best intel. I’d much rather see him dithering a little. Dithering can be good – I wish Bush had done a little more dithering before going into Iraq. I’m disappointed in the troop increase, but not surprised. I see the point of it either way, and damn – at least we don’t have Rumsfeld anymore! Good lord!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Midori,

Maybe you are still on the list. Has Block addressed you? What about sfd? Y’all were #1 and #2 weren’t you?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Kamchak,

My condolensces. That’s rough – sorry.

Jake

November 30th, 2009
4:14 pm

jcon – Westmoreland went to his grave swearing vietnam stopped the dominoes from falling, an opinion shared by about zero historians. I give Iraq about a 10% chance of success, Afghanistan about 1%. When the troops come home the puppet governments we’ve installed will collapse, probably quite rapidly, like they did in South Vietnam and Cambodia. Actually, it’s done more harm than good, more Muslims hate us than ever before and we’ve probably created more radical militants than we’ve killed. All you have to do is picture us invaded and occupied by the Chinese, and ask yourself how you’d feel and what you’d do. Most of us, except for Bosch, and Midori and USinUK, wouldn’t like it very much.

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
4:15 pm

Oh and Pogo

Wilst you are beating your chest, beat it at the idiots who got us into this mess…..

Midori

November 30th, 2009
4:15 pm

KAMCHAK!!!

You put Sherlock Holmes to shame!! :lol:

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
4:16 pm

Be one with the rutabaga. You cannot squeeze blood from a rutabaga.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
4:17 pm

K’chak–
My apologies for being so insensitive…I should have thought first. I’m sorry…

Jackie

November 30th, 2009
4:17 pm

Now that President Obama has made a decision to send troops to Afghanistan, in my opinion a very bad decision, what will those who supported President Bush and his inept administration say now?

The Pentagon issued a report last week indicating that we only have 50,000 troops in reserve. If we send 40,000, the arithmetic says that leaves only 10,000 troops to fulfill the rotation quota. Will we have to leave the troops on the ground longer than the 14 months they are staying now?; we the time at home be shorter?; how many more suicides will there be in the military ranks?’ how profound will PTSD become amongst the returning troops?

The solution to the problem appears to be renewing the draft. This would bring some of the warriors we have heard everyday to the fight and our problems would be solved in less than 24 hours.

Bud Wiser

November 30th, 2009
4:17 pm

My oh my, I disappear for a happy Thanksgiving weekend, and come back to read all this venomous frothing by both sides?

It is clear that when the Bud is away, the morons will fray….. with each other.

I would chastise you all to be civil to each other, but as I have said before, I would be better served reading Shakespeare to chimpanzees and expecting more comprehension from them than from any of you.

Kamchak

November 30th, 2009
4:27 pm

Bosch

Thanks–I understand that you care for elderly parents also. It was the big C–slow growing so I don’t think that was the primary cause. He passed away swiftly at home and not in a nursing home. I don’t think he wanted a lingering wasting away kinda thing.

josef

No offense taken. I made my peace with my Da’s mortality some months ago. He is now on the next leg of his spiritual journey.

Godspeed Pop.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
4:27 pm

Mrs. Godzilla

November 30th, 2009
4:30 pm

Kamchak

My thoughts are with you……

Jackie

November 30th, 2009
4:32 pm

@Kamchak

Best of luck with your family situation.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
4:32 pm

K’chak–Thank you.

JAY–welcome home and thanks for the chuckles. Hope all is well with you and yours…

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
4:32 pm

K’chak–Thank you.

JAY–welcome home and thanks for the chuckles. Hope all is well with you and yours…

Bosch

November 30th, 2009
4:34 pm

Kamchak,

Good attitude. It’s still an adjustment when they’ve gone – we had a death in the family last month, and even though we came to peace, it’s weird when they are gone – especially when they were such a big part of your time.

The death we had last month was a year in the making, and it was emotionally draining for all of us. I think that is the worst. It certainly doesn’t make it any easier for you either way. Condolensces again.

Kamchak

November 30th, 2009
4:42 pm

Mrs. Godzilla, Jackie, josef, Bosch

Thank you.

Del

November 30th, 2009
4:43 pm

Jay,

Re: your 4:07pm…Outstanding!

pat

November 30th, 2009
4:53 pm

God bless all the troops and may the additional troops save lives and bring speedy victory to the Afghan war.
The best way to get the troops home is to win the war as quickly as paossible.

Soothsayer

November 30th, 2009
5:14 pm

The Grand Failure of Government to Limit Concentration of Power

I thought you might need a little cheering up (sarc) on Monday! Bend over and grab your ankles.

md

November 30th, 2009
5:16 pm

Barry had no choice since he was already on record from the campaign trail. He painted himself into the corner with few options, and now it will probably end up as a lose- lose for him.

His delayed decision makes him look like an indecisive leader. The generals have wanted more troops from the get go, so his delay should have ended up with a withdrawal, otherwise he will be remembered as “dithering”.

And to the idea that he has benchmarks and will pull out later – won’t happen. If he pulls out later he will be questioned as to why not pull out now instead. He will be seen as a quitter. His only hope is the surge will work and it needs to work soon.

And no, I don’t agree with the decision. I think the afghans are the ones that need to send 40k more troops, not us.

Soothsayer

November 30th, 2009
5:19 pm

Web of Deception and What Must Be Hidden

This has to be my favorite. Make sure you take note of the date before you start reading.

Good night all.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 30th, 2009
5:20 pm

If Jaggie was in the military, then I’m a Chinese woman.

@@

November 30th, 2009
5:27 pm

Kamchak:

Losing a Dad is tough no matter what your age when the goodbyes are offered. Me? 17 years old.

Sorry to hear about your Dad.

Will josef’s mishap conjure up sad memories if I continue to call you “Turnip”?

I’ll make the sacrifice, but I sure don’t wanna.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 30th, 2009
5:31 pm

SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) – The hurricane season is ending with barely a whimper.

This was the quietest hurricane season since 2006, when none of the nine storms hit the U.S. coast. The calmest season before that was in 1997, which had just seven storms.

Question for the blog- Is there ever a point in which liberals begin to feel like the utter asses they are?

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
5:31 pm

md, I agree.

BHO was culpable of NOT following the blithering, but not dithering, George Bush I in that he did not adhere to the policy of Ready! Fire! Aim!

A gargantuan mistake!

Especially knowing just how close we were to “victory” after those seven plus stellar years there of non-stop military success and neo-con might, all the more unforgivable…

Re that 5:20,

Sounds good to me, henceforth she will be known as Bao-Yu Duhng…

Matilda

November 30th, 2009
5:31 pm

Kamchack, I’m so sorry for your loss. I just lost a life-long friend this weekend, way too young. We at least thought she’d make it to 50, but no. Was glad to be there at least. Freebird came on the radio this morning and I lost it.

@@

November 30th, 2009
5:33 pm

I’ll echo md’s thoughts on the predicament Obama has created for himself (with help from his supporters) of course.

Obama simply does not think before he speaks. It’s something that has plagued him throughout his time on the national stage.

That and he talks waaaaayyy too much. Like way…..way too much.

I’ve come to the conclusion that he can’t think and talk at the same time. That’s probably why he uses a teleprompter when he engages.

Common Sense

November 30th, 2009
5:34 pm

To “I Report”:

Give “Jackie” a little bit of a break. He was a “leg” in the 1st Cav. in Nam. He paid his dues and tho I seldom agree with him he deserves to be heard.

To Bosch:

Your original questions @ 3:20: “How do you KNOW what I would think before you even ask? Do you have a special crystal ball? Are you telepathic?”

My answer @ 3:33: “When it comes to liberals …………….. absolutely !”

Your response @ 3:35: “When it comes to liberals, absolutely what?”

My answer again: “When it comes to liberals …………….. absolutely !”

You need to do a better job of keeping up with your posts …………….

To Midori:

Looks like this “Corporal” poster you keep referring to must have gotten to you as you seem to remember a lot of what he posted.

Matilda

November 30th, 2009
5:37 pm

“Is there ever a point in which liberals begin to feel like the utter asses they are?”

Yes. Sometimes we find ourselves listening to the blatherings of a neo-fascist thinking, “Wow, this person really cares about our country…” Then we realize that buzzing sound is really just a regurgitated Hannity or Beck kibblet, basted in lies for that extra special chickeny flavor. D’OH! And we feel like total azzes for being suckered.

@@

November 30th, 2009
5:38 pm

Oops! let me add something to my 5:33.

…and why he sputters and splatters when confronted with a difficult question to which the teleprompter offers no script.

getalife

November 30th, 2009
5:42 pm

They are pressuring Pakistan to find obl saying it will end this war.

Perhaps a second chance to get him.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 30th, 2009
5:42 pm

The third reason Obama’s strategy will fail is the way our forces are limited in this fight. We have an Army chief of staff who believes that if diversity were “damaged” it would be worse than the Fort Hood massacre. And we demand of our best warriors behavior that is irrational in war.

In 2004, security operators from Blackwater were ambushed and murdered in Fallujah, their bodies mutilated and hung from a bridge. The terrorist who organized and conducted that attack — Ahmed Hashim Abed — was one of the most-wanted terrorists in Iraq.

Abed is typical of the enemy: ruthless, implacable and above all barbaric.

As HUMAN EVENTS’ Rowan Scarborough reported last week, Navy SEALs captured Abed in a nighttime raid on September 3. And sometime after he was captured, one of the SEALs apparently punched the guy in the mouth and he suffered a split lip. He complained he’d been abused, and now instead of the medals they undoubtedly earned by bravery and skill in the raid, three SEALs — Matthew McCabe, Jonathan Keefe and Julio Huertas — are facing a January court-martial for prisoner abuse.

Right or wrong, bookman?

md

November 30th, 2009
5:43 pm

“And we feel like total azzes for being suckered.”

If one follows the dogma of either party they have deservedly been “suckered”.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
5:47 pm

whiner

“Question for the blog- Is there ever a point in which liberals begin to feel like the utter asses they are?”

I did, just a few minutes ago.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 30th, 2009
5:51 pm

Private- Never before in my life have I seen a trooper go totally hysterical in public.

And I still haven’t.

~~~~~

matilduh- You are at the blog of a moonbat, hahaha, who earns a living by dutifully passing on DNC talking points.

Now, what about those hurricanes?

We don’t have anymore?

~~~~~

gitmo- If you were Pakistan and were threatened by harmless little world girlie to go get a relentless mass murderer who’s just itching to kill your whole people off, who would you listen to?

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
5:52 pm

If I had to draw a distinction between liberals and conservatives, I would venture that liberals are too naive and conservatives too cynical.

getalife

November 30th, 2009
5:54 pm

Andy,

Perhaps we can increase “the wanted dead or alive” to 1 trillion.

They could buy Dubai and be famous.

DoggoneGA

November 30th, 2009
5:58 pm

“Right or wrong, bookman?”

Why don’t you try posting the WHOLE set of charges: that they are charged with derelicion of duty, impeding an investigation and making false statements. That’s just a BIT more serious than a bloody lip. Especially as the charges were perferred by Army Maj. Gen. Charles Cleveland, commander of Special Operations Command Central.

It might just be BARELY possible he knows a bit more about it than the biased sources you keep posting from.

DoggoneGA

November 30th, 2009
6:00 pm

“I would venture that liberals are too naive and conservatives too cynical.”

I would have put it the other way around.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
6:00 pm

The Democratic Party mascot is the donkey. Any ass should know that.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

November 30th, 2009
6:02 pm

Say, what ever happened to Pakistan’s glorious offense to drive the Taliban from the Swat Valley?

You know, the key to our success in Afghanistan that Hairplugs was puffing up on?

It kinda petered out, didn’t it?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

November 30th, 2009
6:03 pm

Right or wrong, bookman?

Hillbilly Deluxe

November 30th, 2009
6:04 pm

If I had to draw a distinction between liberals and conservatives, I would venture that liberals are too naive and conservatives too cynical.

You might be on to something there but if I wasn’t cynical, I wouldn’t be me, I’d be somebody else.
;-)

Joan

November 30th, 2009
6:05 pm

Please dear Lord, let this country recognize the nightmare it is in, and have the strength of our founders to do the right thing. Please let us survive this nightmare, and bring on those elections in 2010 and 2012. Please, while you are at it, give us a presidential contender who has run companies well, who hasn’t got cheating in his history, and who gives us more than platitudes, and one who won’t sell out to the highest bidder.

md

November 30th, 2009
6:05 pm

“I would venture that liberals are too naive and conservatives too cynical.”

That would depend on whether one is referring to individuals or their representatives as the representatives are banking on the “naive”.

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
6:06 pm

So after The Hero of the Texas ANG accomplished NOTHING in seven years there, BHO wants to do the LBJ in Operation Enduring Quagmire, and the bloodthirsty conned still won’t salute him.

Traitors.

“Question for the blog- Is there ever a point in which liberals begin to feel like the utter asses they are?”

As one of the right wingers shuts up Bao-Yu for crying about getting humiliated by a real man.

Man, is that question ironic…

Go 1st Cav!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHerQxG63Bw

DoggoneGA

November 30th, 2009
6:07 pm

“Right or wrong, bookman?”

derelicition of duty, making false statements, impeding an investigation…right or wrong whiner?

Matilda

November 30th, 2009
6:08 pm

Whiner, I believe the Hurricanes had a terrific season! Jacory Harris seems to be a nice young man as well as a talented quarterback. With all their young talent, look for even more Hurricane action next year.

Matilda

November 30th, 2009
6:10 pm

AmVet, may I repeat this? I think it needs repeating:

So after The Hero of the Texas ANG accomplished NOTHING in seven years there, BHO wants to do the LBJ in Operation Enduring Quagmire, and the bloodthirsty conned still won’t salute him. Traitors.

Well stated.

@@

November 30th, 2009
6:11 pm

Admittedly, I have been naive, but that’s when I was a Democrat. I wouldn’t call myself cynical just yet. Irritated? Yes!

Cynical? No!

A skeptical optimist? That’s the ticket!

md

November 30th, 2009
6:13 pm

“Right or wrong, bookman?”

Definitely wrong – what would one expect from a PC war? Pretty soon our troops will have a set of questions they must first ask the enemy before being allowed to fire their weapons. Of course question #2 will never get asked.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

November 30th, 2009
6:13 pm

duhgone- Who is their commander in chief?

Yeah, you’re right, world girlie is.

Right or wrong, bookman?

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
6:16 pm

Matilda, feel free to Joe biden it, if you’d like!

BTW, I dig your sense of humor and your human decency.

You mentioned Freebird earlier and there is little in this life more heart breaking than losing someone you love.

Here’s another LS tune I’ve always loved and tried to emulate…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqp1U6RoQaw

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
6:16 pm

We know how Obama will handle the Afghanistan situation but what if the party of Reagan were in charge? WWRD? Sorry, Nancy. A seance just will not do. For a matter as serious as war, a resurrection and a little face time is the only way to go.

md

November 30th, 2009
6:17 pm

@@, I have to concur. When I was a registered democrat, naive would be an understatement. And the place in between I would describe as “more aware”.

DoggoneGA

November 30th, 2009
6:17 pm

“Right or wrong, bookman?”

derelicition of duty, making false statements, impeding an investigation…right or wrong whiner?

@@

November 30th, 2009
6:19 pm

Obama was hoping for more…

But NATO diplomats and defense analysts say about half that figure is a more realistic amount to expect from Europe. Britain says it expects NATO allies other than the United States to pledge 5,000 additional troops.

Look for another 5,000 to Obama’s 30 from the U.S. bringing the total to McChrystal’s original 40…was it?

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
6:21 pm

After their last two term fiasco the non-conservative conservatives and the Republiconned talk about others being naive!

?????????????????????????????

Wow! Time to put on the hip waders….

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
6:21 pm

“I am a hopeful cynic.”
–Tracy Chapman

“Cynicism is full of naive disappointments.”
–Mason Cooley

md

November 30th, 2009
6:22 pm

NATO and the EU will be in for a rude awakening when the next war is on their turf and we come to their defense with 5k troops. Time to disband NATO and the UN, nothing but a bunch of BS.

Paul

November 30th, 2009
6:23 pm

Hello Jay,

I trust you had a relaxing time. Such a variety of news stories in a few days. None of them good.

I’m interested to hear, tomorrow night, just what this strategy is that took all these months and meetings to craft. I’ve a feeling I’ll be underwhelmed.

All the emphasis on markers and a timetable? That is not a strategy. It’s political cover. I wonder if we’ll end up doing anything markedly different from what we’ve been doing. Just a bit of emphasis difference.

Hello Bosch

[[Because we have faith that he won’t go invade Syria or some other country that is not in this fight like Bush did Iraq.]]

The prior thread – I’m really interested to see how the Left handles the situation if we quarantine/bomb/invade Iran – a ‘country that never attacked us’ – given how that line has been used as the condemnatory end-all regarding Iraq.

Hello getalife

Nice job of pulling the hot iron from the fire with those Razorbacks. Didn’t matter who outplayed whom – at the end, it’s just ‘scoreboard.’

I’m going to the Big 12 championship game Saturday. See the game on the field and also on the JerryJumboTron.

But back to your question of ‘can we bribe the Taliban?” Sure! That entire society is bribable. We can do it with jobs. We can do it with agriculture. We can do it with threats “we’ll leave you alone but if you get in bed with AQ again, we will come back and kill you.”

I just hope that doesn’t clash with Progressive ideals, though.

Hello N-GA at 4:00

I’ll offer that what constitutes success – the critical question – is not for the military or the CIA to determine. That’s for the President. When he tells them what he wants to accomplish, then they can come up with a plan to achieve it, determine support requirements and lay out a timetable.

Just like they did with the Bush transition plan in Nov, which they refined and announced as a major event in March. Then backed away from when presented with the ‘how do we get there and how many troops will it take’ reality.

Kamchak

So sorry about your loss. It must be nice to be at peace. Me, I’ve been going over in my mind what I might regret leaving undone while they’re here. And I’ve been working thru the list. Interesting, though – I’ve found many of the things I’d regret don’t matter one whit to them – it was me imposing my ‘this is important’ baggage.

I like watching Ghost Whisperer.

Getalife 5:42

A Special Operations Command assessment got some attention this weekend. Blamed General Franks and SecDef Rumsfeld for the miscalculations. Also said getting OBL would have been symbolic but the crazies with their hating ideology would have continued. I’ll see if I can find a source to post later.

Report/Whine 5:42

Yeah, that was one of the sickening stories that came out over the holiday. The general who preferred charges? A politician wearing a uniform. SecDef Gates should break protocol, tell the general it’s time to retire and let the SEALS get on with being warriors.

DoggoneGA

This reminds me of the sniper team that had charges brought will carrying out a ‘kill or capture’ order. The general who preferred the charges thought they could have captured him. The items you cited are the normal laundry list – and the SEALS called the command’s bluff by refusing nonjudicial punishment and demanding a court martial. I’ve a feeling the command will now drop it.

md 6:13

Remember when AG Holder was asked in Senate testimony if a special ops team captured OBL if they’d have to read him Miranda rights and Holder said “it depends”?

It’s not a PC ‘war’. It’s a criminal case, remember?

@@

November 30th, 2009
6:24 pm

md:

I was never a registered anything…still not. But I can recall thinking I was voting for ideas that were good and noble. Then….all of a sudden, WHAM!!! No I’m not, I’m voting for a bunch of politicians who claim nobility at the expense of others.

Whoooaaaa, Nellie! Got off that dead horse.

Matilda

November 30th, 2009
6:25 pm

AmVet, thanks. (Mind if I blather a bit? Coping mechanism.) This song takes me back to my time in North Florida… where redneck meets beach bum in a tousle of unkempt, sun-bleached hair, leathered skin, tattoos, scraggled shorts, and shoeless feet. I watched some Skynard-friend local band perform it on the deck of a beachfront bar there. Waves slapping a few yards away, late afternoon sun blazing, tempered only by the salty breezes… the blue collar folks on the picnic tables, sucking on oysters and shrimp and pitchers of beer while the sticky-faced, shoeless children ran around and danced. I sat alone, sipping a cheap brew, relaxing in the warmth and easiness of the day, when the band hit the first chords of Simple Man. The singer, no more than 95 pounds including long, stringy hair, drew a breath like he was about to say the most important words ever spoken. The crowd turned and fixated…. the song began… and every voice out there joined in with all they had inside. The song represented everything real and true about who they were, who WE were… God’s creations living on His planet in a natural state… remembering what matters most, and what matters not. As the chorus rose up and rang through the beach, I looked at every face there, holding and remembering them and the way I felt in the warm easy sun, and the beauty of the voices lifted together, and vowed to remember it always as one of those moments you never expect, but which are, by the grace of God, the most beautiful.

Common Sense

November 30th, 2009
6:25 pm

“There are no good wars but there are some necessary ones.”

md

November 30th, 2009
6:27 pm

Amvet,

Georgie was a mess, but I’m guessing Gore and Kerry would have done a good job of screwing it up in their own special way. Gore would probably be a retired gazillionaire after passing legislation that benifited his gw agenda and left the economy in shreds. Either way, we were going to get hosed.

@@

November 30th, 2009
6:30 pm

I was reading an article earlier that said voters up in some of those northern states are pushing to have the laws changed. Seems a lot of them wanna marry their 1st cousins.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

November 30th, 2009
6:31 pm

duhgone- It is their word against a terrorist who butchered 4 Americans and hung their bodies from a bridge and you are a moron.

Right or wrong, bookman?

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
6:35 pm

matilda @ 6:25

That was touching.

md

November 30th, 2009
6:35 pm

“Remember when AG Holder was asked in Senate testimony if a special ops team captured OBL if they’d have to read him Miranda rights and Holder said “it depends”?

It’s not a PC ‘war’. It’s a criminal case, remember?”

Maybe Mr Holder needs to send his marshalls over to do the capturing and let our troops go eleswhere, like home.

Paul

November 30th, 2009
6:38 pm

md

One of these days I’m gonna buy you a beer!

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
6:39 pm

Taxpayer, that was hysterical.

Loved the Bobby Jindal “cameo” at the end!

Thanks for sharing…

md, I suspect you are correct.

Gore may well have been a flop too. (Lotsa Clinton and Buddhist baggage. And Tipper the album burner? No thanks!)

But at least it was OBVIOUS, that unlike George, he wasn’t a blithering numskull and serial failure.

As for Kerry? Again a BIG question mark, but again unlike George, at least the guy had a shred of courage and valor.

And look what that got him from the misnamed conservatives. Slimed and SwiftBoated.

Much like they were to do with McCain later.

One of many reasons I find this current crop of sleazy Republicans disgusting to the nth degree…

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
6:40 pm

“One of these days I’m gonna buy you a beer!”

Paul for President!

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
6:42 pm

AmVET

“One of many reasons I find this current crop of sleazy Republicans disgusting to the nth degree…”

Sharing bed and baggage with their Democrat cousins…

DoggoneGA

November 30th, 2009
6:44 pm

“I’ve a feeling the command will now drop it.”

I do too, actually…but I just got tired of ole whiner only giving a tiny bit of the story, over and over and over. Thought it was time for some of that to go back the other way.

@@

November 30th, 2009
6:44 pm

I don’t recall conservatives swiftboating McCain. It was his politics they questioned. Swiftboating refers to military service.

I do recall some from the other side saying he was allowed to stay in a luxury hotel ’cause he spilled his guts. They made fun of his shoulder-height wave without taking into consideration his movement had been restricted by his injuries. Then there were those from the other side who called him “Old Cancer Face” McCain.

I remember THAT!

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
6:46 pm

I like evolution. It means we don’t all have to be related.

DoggoneGA

November 30th, 2009
6:50 pm

“It means we don’t all have to be related”

Hate to break it to you…but evolution means we HAVE to be related.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

November 30th, 2009
6:51 pm

taxxie- Evolution is the ultimate incest.

Which is why you liberals are so fond of it.

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
6:51 pm

Matilda, when I was in my twenties, I too spent much time along the redneck riviera and all throughout Florida.

It was as you noted a really weird combination of folks. But gawd, I loved it.

That Skynyrd was to take the southern rock banner from the Allman Brothers and run like hell with it was and still is really special for those that were once there…

josef, true dat.

Flip sides of the same coin. Just that the R side is even more deadly in it’s incompetence…

Paul

November 30th, 2009
6:51 pm

Hello josef nix

I forgot – buying beers is now de rigueur for a Pres.

Maybe that’s why this entire Afg/Iraq/Iran thing is so difficult – they won’t even sit down for a beer! If that’s not reason enough to leave, I don’t know what is!

DoggoneGA

There’s always more to the stories. In this one, the rest of the story is conduct that happened not involving the capture. And it arose solely because they were accused and the jihadist was given credibility. There comes a time when a military commander needs to look out for his troops, tell them ‘carry on, I’ll take the heat.’ That’s what I meant by a general as politician – more concerned about jeopardizing that next star than about his men, it would seem.

Jackie

November 30th, 2009
6:56 pm

@Common Sense

You repeated you post from last night:

“To “I Report”:

Give “Jackie” a little bit of a break. He was a “leg” in the 1st Cav. in Nam. He paid his dues and tho I seldom agree with him he deserves to be heard.”

Now, how would a jarhead know what anything from anything. You may not agree with me simply because you seemed to have disregarded your experience or you have PTSD. Which is it?

md

November 30th, 2009
6:57 pm

Sorry Paul, but I can’t accept a beer for stating the obvious, save it for those that need it to see the obvious.

Jackie

November 30th, 2009
6:58 pm

@I Report

You posted:

“If Jaggie was in the military, then I’m a Chinese woman.”

Just proves that you don’t even know your own gender, General SLOW MOTION!

DoggoneGA

November 30th, 2009
7:01 pm

“more concerned about jeopardizing that next star than about his men, it would seem”

I think it’s too early to make that kind of assessment. Since no details are being given out, it could be pretty banal…or it could be really serious. It depends on what duty they neglected. From bits and pieces of info in several different versions of the story…it appears that they, or one of them anyway, was under orders to guard him from harm. If they took that opportunity to abuse him instead…that’s a pretty serious dereliction of duty.

Police officers have to learn to hold in their emotions when they are dealing with a cop killer, soldiers need to do the same. To ME it looks like an “across the bow” warning shot to the troops to not let their emotions run away with them in situations where the captured man has no defenses.

Which is why I think it will either be dropped, or they’ll get off with a slap on the wrist and maybe reassignment to a desk job for a while, to think it over.

Behavior on an actual field of battle should not, and should be be allowed to, spill over into off the field situations.

jconservative

November 30th, 2009
7:01 pm

I Report – Bookman cut out about 5 pm.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
7:02 pm

Doggone,

We could have evolved from one of many that might have sprang, slithered, crawled, etc., forth from the primordial soup but in the Biblical beginning, there was but one. Of course, there are always the aliens, illegal or otherwise, and their descendants. I suppose the blue bloods could be from Pluto and the red blooded folks from Mars. The possibilites are endless especially now that we know that there is water on the moon. Then again, it was probably just spilled by one of the early astronauts.

DoggoneGA

November 30th, 2009
7:05 pm

“Then again, it was probably just spilled by one of the early astronauts”

Did you see Luckovich’s cartoon on that? Darn near put me on the floor!

getalife

November 30th, 2009
7:06 pm

Obey call it “a fools errand”.

Probably referring the bribes by China to mine their resources.

They are our bank.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
7:10 pm

“If Jaggie was in the military, then I’m a Chinese woman.”

Chinese woman. That is a rather peculiar choice. If I were fantasizing, I think I would choose Superman or Green Lantern or some such being. Then again, to each his (or her or other) own.

Antwine

November 30th, 2009
7:11 pm

Obama is doing what he have to do…handle a war effort that he inhereted. It’s still a war over there in Afghanistan and it has to be handled.

getalife

November 30th, 2009
7:11 pm

We have seen the “Andy” character.

Done that.

@@

November 30th, 2009
7:12 pm

Russia and Iran on Nov. 30 signed four cooperation deals in the oil and natural gas sector and the telecommunication sector, Iran’s Fars News Agency reported. With the signing of these cooperation pacts, Shmatko said, “Iran and Russia will continue expansion of their trade and economic relations regardless of barriers.”

Russia’s SIBUR and Tehran’s National Petrochemical Company are negotiating the building of major petrochemical plants in Iran, Tass reported Nov. 30, citing Russian Energy Minister Sergei Shmatko.

So what kinda sanctions was Russia supporting?

To top it off:

Russian President Dmitri Medvedev tabled a draft European security treaty aimed at overcoming the Cold War legacy, the EU Observer reported Nov. 30.

Still playing hard to get, I see.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
7:13 pm

OMG! The Chinese have even taken over whiner!

getalife

November 30th, 2009
7:13 pm

@@,

What is going on with the Pakistani leader?

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
7:14 pm

@@

Energy Minister SHMATKO?

Tell me that’s not his name! AmVET?

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
7:17 pm

Doggone,

At least Luckovich kept it clean. My dirty mind envisioned one of the astronauts taking a leak in one of those many pre-dug latrines. Andy should have picked up on this one given his desire to associate the AJC with urinals.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

November 30th, 2009
7:22 pm

Paul- Add to that the CIA agents being investigated, the murderers of 9/11 getting constitutional rights reserved for citizens of the United States, world girlie making cute with genocidal maniacs and blaming America for everything, the Treason Times disclosing secret US intelligence, attempts by the State Department to get the Taliban included in the Afghan government, abandoning Israel in favor of the bomb throwers and rocket launchers, would you put your life on the line for this administration?

Obama is Confused

November 30th, 2009
7:22 pm

Why is this still Bush’s fault? Osama Bin Laden is the one who bombed us. At the same time, Obama campaigned on the idea that he would lead us out of Iraq and Afganastan and “bring out troops home.” He will break every campaign promise that does not hurt his chances of getting re-elected…for example…more funds and support for groups like planned parenthood, auto worker’s unions and acorn…these are the groups that control our country and keep getting the voters out. As far as the war…future blood is 100% on his administration…in addition, he is responsible for 1 billion dollars a day in new debt related to the surge in troops…America is bankrupt and Obama is leading us into the pit of destruction and no one seems to care…why care when 90% of the people who elected Obama pay no income tax…they just stand around with their hands out…a lot like Chavez’s voter base.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

November 30th, 2009
7:23 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot, and a government full of sissies like duhgone running around shrieking that a fat lip is torture.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
7:24 pm

So what kinda sanctions was Russia supporting?

Sales of US-grown wheat and corn, what else!

DoggoneGA

November 30th, 2009
7:25 pm

“a fat lip is torture”

derelicition of duty, making false statements, impeding an investigation…right or wrong whiner?

@@

November 30th, 2009
7:32 pm

Getalife:

What is going on with the Pakistani leader?

The best I can tell is he’s in a political fight to distance himself (for appearances only) from any military ties (shades of Musharraf). The military was really angry about the Kerry-Lugar Aid Package. They’re the ones doing the fighting but assistance for the military was denied. I think we’ve made amends with the military to some degree.

Problem is, those opposed to Zadari (sp?) saw an opportunity to make trouble for him. They’ve taken full advantage of the situation. His opposition? Nawaz Sharif…a previous collaborator with both the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden.

Other than that…I have no idea.

@@

November 30th, 2009
7:34 pm

Getalife:

Forgot to mention another problem. Because of the Kerry-Lugar thingy, and the trouble it’s caused, Pakistan is holding back on offering intelligence that may be beneficial in Afghanistan.

It’s a mess.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
7:35 pm

A little more on the serious side, for those of us over 50, does anybody recall the last time “escalation” was used in this context and what came of that?

Midori

November 30th, 2009
7:36 pm

since you wingnuts like polls:

Just one person in Washington Post poll says Cheney best reflects conservative principles.

Two new polls report that former Alaska governor Sarah Palin and right-wing radio host Rush Limbaugh are the most powerful conservatives in the country. According to a 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair survey, 26 percent of Americans rate Limbaugh as the most influential conservative voice, followed by Fox News host Glenn Beck at 11 percent. In a Washington Post poll, a plurality of Republicans say Palin best reflects their “party’s core values,” and they would vote for her “if the presidential nomination battle were held today.” Two people who don’t fare as well in the Post poll are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney:

Just 1 percent pick George W. Bush as the best reflection of the party’s principles, and only a single person in the poll cites former vice president Richard B. Cheney. About seven in 10 say Bush bears at least “some” of the blame for the party’s problems.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/30/cheney-one-poll/

Bud Wiser

November 30th, 2009
7:38 pm

To ‘Obama is Confused’, who asked, “Why is this till Bush’s fault?”

Trying to keep it short and not-so-sweet, it is the liberals’ last fall back line when they cannot think of any other reason that Obowo is such a complete and abject failure as a president.

He cannot be at fault. And that is because they cannot see that they were actually stupid enough to vote for that incompetent knee bending fool, SO, the logical progression is that if they weren’t as stupid as it is now beginning to appear on an hourly basis, then Obowo is not as incompetent as it now appears, thusly, any deviations from their self delusional state is that it must be Bush’s fault, because it certainly is not theirs or the Golden Child from Kenya.

@@

November 30th, 2009
7:41 pm

Hey! they didn’t poll me. I could’ve, at least, offered Dick one more supporter. He’d be wasted as president. He’d be much better as SoS.

Diplomacy be damned.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
7:41 pm

Midori,

Cheney/Palin 2012. Spread the word.

Midori

November 30th, 2009
7:43 pm

hiya Taxie :)

will do!! :)

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
7:44 pm

Bud

“Trying to keep it short and not-so-sweet, it is the liberals’ last fall back line when they cannot think of any other reason that Obowo is such a complete and abject failure as a president.”

I won’t yet go so far as to call him “a complete and abject failure as president.” but your contention holds muster in my liberal opinion. The rose-colored glasses set has ridden that horse about as far as it will trot. To quote an influential person in his life, “the chickens have come home to roost” or are about to. He’s my president, too, and I wish him the best, but…

@@

November 30th, 2009
7:45 pm

Alright, I gotta share this. I was at some site today where some moderate liberals were comparing Obama’s lack of experience to that of Palin’s. Not sure what had ‘em all riled up

As the worm turns?

In Sarah Palin’s defense….she has executive experience. That’s more than Obama had going in.

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
7:46 pm

Regarding the “forgetful” who claim that the fake conservatives didn’t slime and swiftboat McCain, if Bob Hope was alive today and his writer was a neo-con he might have a huge hit today called, “Thanks for the Selective Memories”.

Gawd, but these fallacious Republidolts do make me laugh, though…

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
7:50 pm

In Sarah Palin’s defense….she has executive experience.

Executive experience! As in, she knows when to quit.

@@

November 30th, 2009
7:51 pm

AmVet:

I’m talking about on this blog. All the sliming of the swiftboat variety came from the other side…yours. I COULD go to the trouble to find some. I do get tired of having to refresh your memory though.

Conservatives didn’t like his politics is all.

@@

November 30th, 2009
7:52 pm

Obama quit his senate seat after saying he wouldn’t.

Your point?

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama

November 30th, 2009
7:52 pm

Obama Quote: “I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war….You can take that to the bank!”

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama

November 30th, 2009
7:53 pm

@@

November 30th, 2009
7:52 pm
Obama quit his senate seat after saying he wouldn’t.

Your point?

I think the point is HE’S A LIAR

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
7:54 pm

@@

On Sarah Palin, Unmentionable maintains that the reason so many don’t like her out of hand is because she’s TOO much like us…

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
7:58 pm

AmVet,

Here’s another southern band for you to try out. Lisa Hannigan covered another one of their songs here.

Common Sense

November 30th, 2009
8:01 pm

To Jackie:

You “are” a hard one to figure. Everytime I try to be nice, you follow it with vitriol.

I surmise you are one of those rare guys I would never have shared a fighting hole with (foxhole since you were in the Army and foxes hide in their holes).

Too bad ……….. we have a lot in common from our experience over there. But, alas ……….. I tried.

By the way ……… your opinion of this “jarhead” is second hand:

“There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion.”
Gen. William Thornson, United States Army

@@

November 30th, 2009
8:02 pm

Andy:

Liar? I prefer the word “nunancy”.

josef:

Unmentionable knows of what he speaks.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
8:03 pm

Then again, I’m not convinced Palin does know when to quit. Now she’s off touring the countryside via private jet. Does she take the family on the jet or do they have to take the bus with all the other underlings.

md

November 30th, 2009
8:06 pm

“We will bring an end to this war….You can take that to the bank!”

Must have been one of the now defunct banks.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
8:08 pm

@@

“Unmentionable knows of what he speaks.”

Unlike yours truly, he’s a man of few words. That’s why I listen to him.

@@

November 30th, 2009
8:09 pm

There’s no way to make liberals happy. If Sarah Palin doesn’t include her family, she’s a negligent mother. If she includes her family, she can’t lay claim to being like average Americans.

What little I’ve seen of her on tour, she’s getting on and off a bus.

DoggoneGA

November 30th, 2009
8:11 pm

“As in, she knows when to quit”

You know, really, I think the problem isn’t so much that she quit…it’s her bad timing. If she had quit when it was announced that she had been tapped to run for VP…no one would have said a word. But waiting until after she lost just made her a sore loser AND a quitter.

TnGelding

November 30th, 2009
8:14 pm

One thing for sure, casualties will escalate on both sides. Even if the entire country was destroyed (so it could be saved?) the Taliban would survive.

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
8:15 pm

For our resident Inspector Clouseau…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXn2QVipK2o

Taxpayer, I’ve never heard of him but I like it. A real song writer. He’s kind of a southern Nick Drake with backing banjo, mandolin, etc… I’ll check out some of his other stuff.

Thanks. One of the great things here is getting turned onto music I’ve never heard before.

@@

November 30th, 2009
8:15 pm

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
8:17 pm

TnGelding

@ 8:14

I would agree. The country was already destroyed and the Taliban was there skulking in the ruins.

Doggone–
@ 8:11

There’s a great deal of truth in what you say.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
8:18 pm

But waiting until after she lost just made her a sore loser AND a quitter.

Perhaps it is that combination that some consider to be a redeeming characteristic.

@@

November 30th, 2009
8:20 pm

AmVet:

Save your silly little videos. I don’t have time to watch or listen.

My dog doesn’t bite.

I do.

Look before I Leap

November 30th, 2009
8:21 pm

@Taxpayer: I disagree. She knew exactly when to quit and go on and make her millions. Most politicians actually finish the terms to which they were elected before doing so.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
8:23 pm

There’s no way to make liberals happy.

I can’t speak for the liberals but I couldn’t be happier with her performance to date. She lightens up an otherwise dull Party, politically speaking, that it. I certainly would not have her at any other party though. A few drinks and she’d be trying to dress up my dog in a wolf costume and asking to borrow a rifle. Fortunately for my dog, I don’t have a helicopter.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
8:24 pm

AmVet–
I do like your silly little videos! My doog doesn’t bite, nor do I, but Mustafa the al Qaada Terrorist Cat does when he doesn’t have his albacore….

@@

November 30th, 2009
8:25 pm

Consider this.

Sarah Palin said she quit due to the cost of frivilous lawsuits. Distractions for her staff. I believe her.

She then wrote a book to help defray the cost of said lawsuits.

I don’t know why you guys find that so hard to believe.

Paul

November 30th, 2009
8:25 pm

Regarding all the “Palin quit” posts.

If I may offer, wasn’t she like half a million in debt due to legal bills due to her opponents (and one guy in particular) filing ethic complaint after ethic complaint? Seems a pretty vile way to ‘get’ someone, especially considering the lack of momentous findings in all those cases.

So she resigns, then does the book deal and tour. Seems reasonable. She’s no longer on the public dime and she can pay off the bills. Would’ve been more of a problem if she’d have stayed on and done the book deal tour.

I trust the Right won’t follow the Progressive’s tactics in this regard when next they encounter a candidate they don’t like.

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
8:27 pm

Another example of great southern song writing…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIoY1aZdzm0&feature=related

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

November 30th, 2009
8:31 pm

OMG, is global warming getting it’s ass raked over the coals, hahahaha.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
8:32 pm

PAUL–
And I would venture that the anti-Palinites are most miffed at the fact that, despite their best efforts and the fact the GOP lost the election, she seems to keep coming out on top…

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
8:32 pm

Sarah Palin said she quit due to the cost of frivilous lawsuits.

Given the uniqueness of her situation, that explains everything.

Midori

November 30th, 2009
8:33 pm

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

November 30th, 2009
8:34 pm

Am I not the man?-

If you think it’s outrageous that Navy SEALs who helped capture one of Iraq’s most wanted terrorists now face court-martial on charges they roughed him up, just wait. It may get worse. Tomorrow morning, the Senate Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing on a bill introduced by Arlen Specter (D., Pa.) that would make it easier for terrorists to sue military and federal law-enforcement officials.-WallStreetJournal

bookman?

Midori

November 30th, 2009
8:35 pm

well lookie here – Rush is about to enrich a fourth future divorcee:

Rush Limbaugh to Marry Wife #4

http://gawker.com/5415624/rush-sets-wedding-date

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
8:36 pm

josef, that’s because you have a sense of humor. A great one, I might add!

And you can laugh at yourself – a decidedly non-conservative trait in my considerable experience!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9YViHbaAWM&feature=related

@@

November 30th, 2009
8:39 pm

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
8:39 pm

AmVet

“And you can laugh at yourself…”

I just go along with the crowd! :-)

Paul

November 30th, 2009
8:40 pm

Hi Midori! :lol:

josef nix

Well, she is resilient, isn’t she?

I didn’t catch many of her interviews, but I did catch the foreign policy and general policy interview done by O’Reilly. She acquitted herself well. If her purpose is to show she has a grasp of issues on a par with, say, SecState Clinton, then she’s on the road to redemption. In a couple years I’ll venture the story line will be ‘what we saw during the election was a result of political handlers. What we’ve seen since is what’s been there all along.” At least, that’s how I’d advise her to play it.

It was kinda funny, after her BOR interview BOR had on a woman he calls on often, a liberal radio host. I forget her name. Anyhow, she said what I was thinking – on Afg and Iran she was pretty general, hardly any specifics. BOR said “yeah, so? Obama’s been in going on a year and he doesn’t have any answers for those two either.”

Whackdown.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
8:40 pm

Andy finally got something right about global warming — burning too much coal without capturing the carbon is a problem and we’ll all get our collective asses burned before it’s over in exchange for that cheap power. Then again, some folks have already gotten burned pretty good considering the problems with pollution from the mining operations and ash spills and mercury contamination of fish and black lung, etc. A small price to pay, eh!

Paul

November 30th, 2009
8:43 pm

Midori

Fourth time?!!? Bet that’s a heckuva prenup! Still and all, I wish him happiness.

And no, getalife…. I don’t think she’s done a video…..

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
8:47 pm

AmVet,

I did not follow your 8:27.

Look before I Leap

November 30th, 2009
8:50 pm

Sorry Paul but your reasoning is flawed. Palin and Washington attorney John Coale set up a PAC and legal defense fund which virtually eliminated the accumulated legal debt that Palin had racked up. In addition, Palin was using state funds to pay legal costs prior to her selection as VP candidate. The McCain camp stepped in and said it would be politically improper to continue to do that so the legal bills began to accumulate as personal debt. Once the election was over, that restriction should have ended. Palin claims that the McCain campaign promised to pay those bills. She says that if they had prevailed in the election, the campaign would have quietly paid the bill. The McCain camp denies this agreement.
In short, she had other options to raise money to pay the bills aside from quitting.
Bill and Hillary Clinton had MILLIONS in legal bills and settlement costs relating to WhiteWater, Lewinsky and Paula Jones. I can assure you, not one single penny of that money came from either Bill’s or Hillary’s personal accounts.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
8:51 pm

PAUL–
She’s a quick study. Unmentionable made the point that in the election the handlers just didn’t know what to do with her, they being out of touch themselves with the constiutency to which she appealed. Being an ingenue, she put too much trust in them and now free more or less to paddle her own canoe, she’s played her trump card to effect. He says, and I agree, that if she weren’t something of a threat/challenge the anti faction would not keep getting their panties in a wad. He lived in Alaska growing up and views her from the perspective of someone who knows and loves “the last frontier.” Me? Well, what can I say, she wouldn’t have been out of place at my family’s Thanksgiving feast and she did marry an Indian (even if she, like Copy Me Biden and Ima Gonna, doesn’t want me to have the same right! :-) )

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
8:52 pm

Midori, I’m still perplexed with the fringe’s fascination with Sister Sarah (But make no mistake, she’s NO Shirley MacClaine! Maybe she too was a lover of the Emperor Charlemagne in a past life though!!)

My gawd Caribou Barbie can’t even top The Manteats in Black, Crybaby Beck or Dickhead’s Got a Gun in neo-conned relevance.

If I was a Republican (perish the thought!) I would be absofrickkinlutely mortified at that cast of clowns!

But when one thinks of the vast rogue’s gallery of losers that hijacked abortion of a party has had lately, I guess it’s to be expected…

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
8:55 pm

AmVet

But it WAS a third-term abortion and it looks like it may have survived! :-)

And there it is again, top of the page, relative to nothing!

Look before I Leap

November 30th, 2009
8:56 pm

Fourth marriage for Rush?
Pre-nup or no, if I were a woman, there would not be enough money in the world to intice me to get naked under the sheets with that bloated, drug-addled boor.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
8:57 pm

BTW–
Gotta go to the polls tomorrow! Appreciated y’all’s input yesterday…ought to be interesting…

Midori

November 30th, 2009
8:57 pm

AmVet,

when you take their mass orgasms over Bush into consideration, their being in love with Palin makes sense.

they like their leaders dumb, incompetent and hot for tax cuts.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
8:58 pm

Look before I Leap

eee-www! The mere thought of it! Talk about a definition of pornography!

Midori

November 30th, 2009
9:00 pm

Look before,

some women find money AND power the ultimate aphrodisiac.

and they will do ANYTHING to obtain it (via a drug addled, impotent loudmouth)….

Paul

November 30th, 2009
9:01 pm

Look Before Leap

Thanks for the info. I’m going to have to look further into it – my understanding was she was personally liable, not that it was based on a legal opinion from the McCain camp. And I do not yet know the difference in circumstance what would have her liable, while, as you cited, civilian Hillary Clinton could have a PAC pay her bills.

josef nix

I think that’s about right – the Left sure makes a big deal out of someone they at the same time portray as someone who’s on the margins appealing to only a hardcore few. Doesn’t seem consistent. The “we don’t take her seriously, we just find her funny” seems a bit of of the “I think you protest a bit too much” vein.

Well, dinnertime.

Pleasant evening, all -

Midori

November 30th, 2009
9:01 pm

Keith Olbermann just ripped Obama to shreds over his decision to escalate the Afghanistan War.

Good!!!!!!!

Look before I Leap

November 30th, 2009
9:02 pm

josef nix:
Not sure where that mental image came from, but I am quickly downing shots of tequila in an effort to erase it.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
9:03 pm

Pre-nup or no, if I were a woman, there would not be enough money in the world to intice me to get naked under the sheets with that bloated, drug-addled boor.

If she’s clever, the prenup will allow her to select/hire a stand in as needed.

@@

November 30th, 2009
9:04 pm

Awwwhhhh drat! Obama gets a D+?

“And President Obama is dedicated to enhancing America’s leadership in the fight against global AIDS, with PEPFAR serving as the cornerstone of our global health initiative to promote better and more sustainable health outcomes,” Clinton said today.

Yet the Obama administration is facing large criticism from global AIDS and Africa solidarity organizations – today smacking the White House with a D+ rating on the work President Obama has done so far in office.

PEPFAR…one of Bush’s greatest accomplishments that he rarely talked about.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
9:05 pm

Look before I Leap

:-) I had to slug down a whole glass of a rather mediocre Barefoot Pinot Noire myself!

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
9:06 pm

@@

Reckon maybe in HIS mind HIV-Aids is still a “gay disease?”

Look before I Leap

November 30th, 2009
9:06 pm

Midori:
Well, she is 32, so perhaps she (and the rest of the country) will get lucky and he’ll keel over on his wedding night.

Matilda

November 30th, 2009
9:07 pm

“Pre-nup or no, if I were a woman, there would not be enough money in the world to intice me to get naked under the sheets with that bloated, drug-addled boor.

Um… I don’t think that’s in the Mrs. Limbaugh job description. He needs a public prop before his dittosuckers figure out that “Bachin’ it with the Boys” in the Dominican Republic with a bottle of Viagra isn’t exactly congruent with the whole “family values” schtick. Trust me, the man can buy whatever kind of icky gratification gets his bloated carcass off. Hiring a respectable “Mrs.” is more likely a precursor to a career move, if only in his deluded, syphillis-addled brain.

@@

November 30th, 2009
9:07 pm

Oh lawd! Are you guys gonna be discussing someone’s personal life?

I’m outta here.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
9:08 pm

Look before I Leap

That’s it! She’s a fifth columnist out to rescue the country. A true patriot!

Look before I Leap

November 30th, 2009
9:09 pm

josef nix:
too funny! I was drinking the exact same thing before I made my mad dash to the liquor cabinent. It was a gift from a TG dinner guest last week and I did not feel like opening the Schug.

Midori

November 30th, 2009
9:09 pm

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
9:10 pm

He might blow a gasket but The Manteats in Black will NOT die of Rockefeller Syndrome.

20 over 80.

Look before I Leap

November 30th, 2009
9:12 pm

If Rush Limbaugh comes out of the closet, I am burning my rainbow flag and returning my ruby slippers.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
9:16 pm

It’s probably best that we keep on sending more million dollar men off to war. After all, if we did not spend that 670 billion annually on the war machine, we’d have all that extra money laying around to do stuff like create a hundred 100,000 dollar man jobs per annual soldier expenditure and have enough left over to give every conservative another tax cut to boot. We wouldn’t want THAT now would we. Just imagine what we could do with all that F-22 money.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
9:17 pm

@@

Have to disagree with you here. He’s a public figure. No private lives there

“I think very few people are completely normal really,
deep down in their private lives.” Noel Cowardm, “Private Lives”

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
9:23 pm

Look before I Leap

“If Rush Limbaugh comes out of the closet, I am burning my rainbow flag and returning my ruby slippers.”

I’ll be right there with ya!

AmVet–
“And, Ernie, 20 goes into 80 a h*lluva lot more than 80 goes into 20!” — Sophie Tucker

“Kiss my tuchus and plant a tree for Israel!”

Matilda

November 30th, 2009
9:24 pm

Josef, let’s be fair. If Limbaugh had never spoken inappropriately of the personal matters of other public figures, AtAt would have a point. She’s always fair and balanced that way, you know.

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
9:29 pm

Talking about that serial divorcé, Lardass Limberger is all it took?

I’ll have to remember that.

I think I mentioned this to you before josef, but years ago my wife and I went to see the Divine Miss M at the Fox.

What a hoot! What a show-woman! I loved it and I knew I was finally OK with that particular set of demons…

@@

November 30th, 2009
9:30 pm

josef:

You disagree? That’s fine.

The only time I’m interested in a private life is when it’s my representative and he’s fraternizing on my dime. Aside from that, it’s tabloid garbage. Something I have no interest in.

I don’t even know what’s going on with Tiger Woods. Don’t care! None of my business!

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
9:31 pm

Matilda @ 9:24 pm,

Amen to that one. And, when another decides to go rogue with what most describe, politely, as tall tales, you gotta expect to get the rouge smeared.

AmVet

November 30th, 2009
9:32 pm

And who could ever forget this gem?

Truer words were never written or sung so beautifully…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5TX-f3X0yU

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
9:32 pm

Matilda–
Heh! Heh! Looks like you’re feeling better…if this blog doesn’t give ya sumpin to chuckle about…!

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

November 30th, 2009
9:32 pm

OMG, has everybody seen the hot blond that Limbaugh landed?

Man, do Conservatives rock or what?

USPatriot

November 30th, 2009
9:35 pm

The troops should be increased in Afghanistan by 100,000 and you do this by moving the 50,000 American troops in Iraq and deploy them to Afghanistan and calling up 50,000 more troops, and Congress MUST pay for this war by Raising Taxes on the Wealthy making over 150K a year to over 40% and Raising Capital Gaines Taxes to 40% instead of Borrowing Money from the Communists which Republican Bush Did.

DoggoneGA

November 30th, 2009
9:37 pm

“Man, do Conservatives rock or what?”

“Money can’t buy love…but it sure can rent a good substitute” (unknown)

Jackie

November 30th, 2009
9:40 pm

@I Report

Have you figured out your gender?
Seems that you are still passing out those “meadow muffins” that you use for facts.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
9:42 pm

@@

Well, I have to confess, I do have a certain, uh, interest, in tabloid journalism. I DO read the AJC!

AmVet–I was there! Guess what, I remember her from, thass right, the Continental Baths! Thanks for that video post, too…I’ve been searching for a good video version for posting here from time to time…that was it! And, believe me, “Friends” got me through some bad times way back when…

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

November 30th, 2009
9:42 pm

I am woman’s man, jaggie.

Thanks for asking.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
9:43 pm

Someone tell Sarah not to shoot the moose. There’s more money in milking them for all they’re worth.

Cheese made from moose milk can cost up to $500/lb! This milk is so expensive because it only comes from specialized moose farms in Sweden.

Jackie

November 30th, 2009
9:44 pm

@I Report

A huge “meadow muffin.”

Thanks for the laugh, comedian.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
9:46 pm

“meadow muffins”

Is that a cow patty that has fully baked in the sun.

Jackie

November 30th, 2009
9:47 pm

@Taxpayer

Yes, it is!
Seems that I Report has an ample supply of them.

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
9:49 pm

Seems that I Report has an ample supply of them.

Andy’s are self-rising.

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
9:50 pm

Meadow muffin? That’s a new one for me…what is it?

Jackie

November 30th, 2009
9:51 pm

@Taxpayer

It appears that I Report has an oversupply that was over-baked.
Since I Report can’t figure out the his/her gender, it appears the supply is being sold at bargain basement prices.
Wonder if there are any buyers?

Look before I Leap

November 30th, 2009
9:54 pm

@i report:
you are kidding yes?
If Rush Lardbutt were a $750/week radio commentator in Hickville, TN, do you seriously think Ms Kate Rogers would be seen in the same COUNTY as he?
At $20M+/year, she would be after him if he were a card carrying communist wearing Mao Tse Tung underwear.
I see you have a typo in your post tagline:
It SHOULD read: Conservatives rock

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
9:54 pm

Gotta get ready to call it a night…thanks for the good mood…had a serious day at work and needed a break…

josef nix

November 30th, 2009
9:57 pm

Look before I Leap

Mao Tse Tung underwear? Eeeew–gotta polish this bottle off and push the image from mind or I’ll be having nightmares!

Dusty

November 30th, 2009
10:05 pm

Whew…..too many sick people here.

getalife

November 30th, 2009
10:16 pm

You got that right Dusty.

Geaux Saints!

Taxpayer

November 30th, 2009
10:33 pm

Recent studies have shown that cows are happy only if you don’t clean up their cow patties. Further, they are not angered by red as was once thought. As it turns out, the people that would head out into the cow fields to inspect the fungi growth in the cow patties would use red handkerchiefs to temporarily store their harvest of magic mushrooms and it was the theft of the cow’s mushrooms that truly got them riled up. It all makes sense now. Why else would any animal be happy walking around in its own poop all day, every day.

RW-(the original)

November 30th, 2009
10:55 pm

getalife,

Good thing for the Saints that the Patriot coach has lost his freaking mind.

getalife

November 30th, 2009
11:00 pm

Up by 14 but it ain’t over.

getalife

November 30th, 2009
11:11 pm

Make that 21.

Blow out.

RW-(the original)

November 30th, 2009
11:13 pm

Blow out.

Dandy Don is singing in the background and I just placed a red X next to my Pats pick. Final for the weekend was 18-2 in College and 12-4 in the pros.

Tom

November 30th, 2009
11:27 pm

Ahh – the Little GOP People. Playing the PATRIOT CARD again! Filtering ignorance & hatred thru Jessuss. The weak. The terrified. The never-serveds. Yup.

TnGelding

December 1st, 2009
4:33 am

Dusty

November 30th, 2009
10:05 pm

Then you should feel right at home!

Sorry, I couldn’t resist. Hope you are well and in naturally high spirits.

TnGelding

December 1st, 2009
4:35 am

December 1, 2009. How time flies when you’re having fun.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie

December 1st, 2009
5:14 am

People who are urging us to do things to win the approval of other countries seem to put an excessive value on other country’s approval, as distinguished from their respect that we can lose by such bowing to “world opinion.” Do the world champion New York Yankees try to curry favor with teams that are also-rans?-Thomas Sowell

It’s not about us, it’s about world girlie, mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

Rightwing Troll

December 1st, 2009
5:33 am

Yes Conservatives rock.

“Susan Richardson also claims that when she recently took a weekend trip with a new boyfriend and left her children with Glenn Richardson, their father, the House speaker sent her dozens of text and e-mail messages threatening to beat her up, to accuse her of abandoning her children and to use the Georgia state patrol and Georgia Bureau of Investigation to locate her.”

I guess Glenn Richardson confused rocking with stoning when he threatened to beat his ex-wife up…

You reps sure ain’t the smartest knives in the drawer, sending threats in traceable text messages, but they do rock…

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Bud Wiser

December 1st, 2009
7:01 am

Just lookin’ this morning and most all of what I see are the backward looks (of envy, no doubt) at Sarah Palin.

She, like many flashbulbs, are bright for a moment but soon gone. The only ones that seem to keep bringing up her name are the leftist toadies of the bowing bumbler. She is, in my opinion,like AmWet for instance – a has been that never was and never will be, but can huff and puff up a good story on occasion.

You know, yesterday I wrote something in essence that the reason the left keeps bringing up the “it’s all Bush’s fault line…” was because those that use it were so angry that they had been duped by Obowo, and are very angry that their ignorance and continued support of the Kenyan Keystone Kop (KKK) made them look, well, just plain stupid, in retrospect.

After careful analysis of statements made and positions taken behind Mr KKK (I like this new moniker… the irony in it is ironic), I have come to the very studied conclusion that those expressing the most support still are in fact, that stupid after all.

You know, definitions can be very important in discerning differences in labels; for instance, I look at calling someone ignorant as not necessarily an insult, it just means that they are not in possession of the facts, therefore are not totally aware, or are ignorant of the reality.

Stupid, however, is very much an insult. I feel that a stupid person is one that is in possession of the facts, but simply chooses against reason or intellect to maintain that position despite fact to the contrary.

The logical conclusion therefore means that Obowo supporters are just plain stupid … or ignorant, because they simply be hiding themselves from reality, which then leads to being perhaps mentally challenged.

Have a nice day tools, I am off to the golf course (again) to attempt to correct some minor swing flaws. If things go as yesterday, there may be an eBay alert on partially used golf equipment this evening.

Doc Holiday

December 1st, 2009
7:08 am

You all all lost sheep. Afghanistan is a battle front towards war on Iran.

Wake up and smell the napalm….