Obama issues orders to begin Afghan escalation
I’m trying to catch up from a great holiday/vacation and put together a column on this topic for tomorrow, but in the meantime, from Fox:
“Top military and diplomatic officials got their marching orders Sunday evening from President Obama ahead of a planned speech Tuesday in which he’s expected to outline his new Afghanistan war strategy and call for about 30,000 more U.S. troops to be sent to the war zone.
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Obama issued the orders during a meeting in the Oval Office Sunday.
While offering few details of the contents of Obama’s speech — to be delivered at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y. — he stressed that the president will discuss the importance of an exit strategy.
“This is not an open-ended commitment,” Gibbs said.”
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@@
November 30th, 2009
3:08 pm
I was thinking along the lines of this kinda “social circle(s)”.
Social circles also overlap. For example, there may be people who work together who are also in the same tennis club or >>>coffee clatch,<<< or you may know someone independently of a mutual friend.
Social circles tend to have unique sets of norms and values. When an individual does not comply with them, the individual may be ostracized, admonished, or even embarrassed by other members of the group.
You know…..girly stuff!
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:09 pm
@@,
Of course you can read my posts and see where SOME of my interests are, but as to what I get out of this blog, and why I chose to participate here, YOU don’t have omniscient rule on that.
YOU don’t get to say why I come here and what I get out of what I read here. And again, for you to even consider that you have that kind of power is extremely dangerous behavior. It’s extremism at it’s worst.
If you scroll past my posts all the time, then how do you know what my interests are? You are contradicting yourself here, but that’s nothing new.
“You’re a needy little girl, that way.”
So you insist upon calling me a “girl.” I’m assuming you mean that as an insult.
The thing is – I like girls and women. I think the female species is a formidable force which should be treated with respect.
I wonder why you would choose that word to insult me? Self loathing?
“Now….just so others can enjoy this site, would you like to move along,”
Again, with the belief that you have that power over anyone. Do you also make it a habit to speak for everyone too?
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:13 pm
@@,
“You know…..girly stuff!”
No, I don’t know – tell us more. What do you mean by “girly stuff?”
Taxpayer
November 30th, 2009
3:13 pm
Mrs. G,
I’m assuming you mean “social” in a virtual sort of way. Then again, some of you might actually get face-to-face. I’m just glad you did not go and use the word sociable to describe this little virtual community even though the term may apply to subsets of said population from time to time.
Peadawg
November 30th, 2009
3:13 pm
“It’s also a small town in GA – home of the Blue Willow Inn – good country eats in a beautiful old home.”
And speed-trapping cops who sit 50 ft past a speed limit sign……
“I think the female species is a formidable force…”
Every month, yes
.
Kamchak
November 30th, 2009
3:14 pm
Bosch
She calls me a turnip–and I am fond of turnips.
@@
November 30th, 2009
3:16 pm
Bosch:
There’s a big difference between a girl and a woman. Girls, more often than not, will succumb to peer pressure. A strong, independent woman won’t.
I’m the latter.
Now let’s end this so others can offer up something of interest.
Heck! You can even talk about spitting up on your computer screen….getting your li’l screen cleaner out.
Common Sense
November 30th, 2009
3:16 pm
Bosch:
I am a conservative and Bush did a many things wrong. I call ‘em like I see ‘em.
If I showed you 100 campaign promises Obama had broken it wouldn’t matter to you because the end justifies the means in the eyes of liberals. Your people can do no wrong.
That’s the basic difference between us ……. truthfulness even when it hurts.
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:18 pm
Peadawg,
Well, yeah, but I think women and girls should be treated with respect and not used as a label to insult others you don’t agree with.
Apparently I have more respect for women than some.
Taxpayer
November 30th, 2009
3:18 pm
Did someone say rutabaga
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:20 pm
“If I showed you 100 campaign promises Obama had broken it wouldn’t matter to you because the end justifies the means in the eyes of liberals. Your people can do no wrong.
That’s the basic difference between us ……. truthfulness even when it hurts.”
Is it my imagination or is it just common practice for some here to feel like they know what is “the truth and what is not?” To make sweeping blanket statements and tell us what we all think?
Block,
How do you KNOW what I would think before you even ask? Do you have a special crystal ball? Are you telepathic?
Mrs. Godzilla
November 30th, 2009
3:21 pm
Peadawg
When most people think of PMS they think of women. However, researchers recently discovered that many men suffer from a condition similar to PMS called irritable male syndrome (IMS). Men with IMS often experience mood swings, stomach cramps and even hot flashes. These symptoms and others are caused by a drop in the male hormone testosterone.
http://www.about-pms.com/articles/pms-basics/male-pms.php
got period pimples?
Doggone/GA
November 30th, 2009
3:21 pm
“because the end justifies the means”
Like attacking Iraq to get Bin Laden…who was actually in Afghanistan?
Peadawg
November 30th, 2009
3:23 pm
Godzilla, I know I have PMS sometimes, it’s called Pissy Male Syndrome.
Bosch, I never said I don’t respect my wife. I just stay locked in my man-room 7 days out of every month
Taxpayer
November 30th, 2009
3:25 pm
When I eat something that disagrees with me, I suffer from Irritable Bowel Syndrome. It could be a monthly thing since we usually cycle through a regular selection of meals in that timeframe. Hmmm. This calls for a study. Captain’s Log, Stardate 001130200900, make note to self to study eating habits more closely.
Mrs. Godzilla
November 30th, 2009
3:25 pm
Peadawg
Does your wife hide when you have IMS? Or is she the brave member of the family?
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:26 pm
Peadawg,
I didn’t mean to imply that you didn’t respect your wife, my comments were addressed regarding how some use that word as an insult.
7 days? Geez. Ya’ got daughters? Now, that’s where it gets interesting.
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:27 pm
Taxpayer,
“When I eat something that disagrees with me, I suffer from Irritable Bowel Syndrome.”
Thanks for sharing.
Peadawg
November 30th, 2009
3:28 pm
Godzilla, mine last 1 night after a bad day at work…she toughs it out.
No Bosch, we have 2 dogs. No kids yet!!!!!
Taxpayer
November 30th, 2009
3:29 pm
I just stay locked in my man-room 7 days out of every month.
If I tried that, my wife would take an axe to the bathroom door. What can I say, it’s the po-man’s man-room once you put in a magazine rack.
Mrs. Godzilla
November 30th, 2009
3:30 pm
Peadawg
No Offense….but having a husband, and lots o brothers, I don’t buy that one day line……
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:32 pm
@@,
So you have no respect for girls, is that it? So, you chose to use the word “girls” as an insult – I thought you have a daughter, I do, and I would never use the word “girl” as an insult.
In my opinion, it is very disrespectful. As a woman, I am shocked that you would stoop so low as to behave in that way.
I don’t consider it a character trait of a strong independent woman to mock girls. I find the opposite to be the case.
Peadawg
November 30th, 2009
3:32 pm
LOL, Godzilla. You saw right through me…..
Common Sense
November 30th, 2009
3:33 pm
Bosch:
When it comes to liberals …………….. absolutely !
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:35 pm
Block,
When it comes to liberals, absolutely what?
N-GA
November 30th, 2009
3:40 pm
Bosch,
Do you get the impression that there are those on this blog who want us to fail in Afghanistan now that Obama is calling the shots?
You have to wonder why they’ve now decided not to support our troops!
josef nix
November 30th, 2009
3:41 pm
Well, a good p.m. Give y’all credit—there’re some really good one-liners here today…
After reading through, I agree most with AmVet, just call him Bush II if we can believe Jay and Fox. I’ll still reserve judgment until tomorrow. Whatever comes, it’ll be d*mned of you do, d*mned if you don’t for the CiC, but then he did put in a bid for this mess, his bid was accepted, and it’s his baby now…
Tom
November 30th, 2009
3:43 pm
He has no choice but to “escalate” it. The classic alcoholic, BushDrunk lit a fire throughout the entire Middle East – then was dumped out in time to say, “I never cut n ran.” “Mishun Complushed.” And so forth. We should predictably have never set foot in the place. Better yet – send only the GOP never-serveds. Those who play “The Patriot Card.”
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:44 pm
N-GA,
What? Say it ain’t so!!!
Midori
November 30th, 2009
3:44 pm
Bosch,
who is “block”?
is it Corporal Agarn?
@@
November 30th, 2009
3:45 pm
Bosch:
I do have a daughter. The one thing I taught her is self-respect….to never allow herself to be led. It’s been a trip, to be sure. It was only after she was away at college that she found great value in asserting her independence. Setting herself apart from the others.
She now stands her ground against all odds.
Happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony. … form convictions, but once formed they must be defended against the heaviest odds. — Gandhi
Now shoooo…
jconservative
November 30th, 2009
3:48 pm
Reporter – “Why is the exit strategy so much more important than defeating the terrorists who attacked our country?”
Why did the last administration not try to defeat the terrorists who attacked our country? They screwed around for 7+ years but never seriously tried to get bin Laden. So we have now been in Afghanistan for 8+ years and have absolutely nothing to show for it.
And after Obama’s several years we will still have nothing to show for it. Obama is living in “Neverland” just like George W Bush. Must be something in the White House water system.
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:49 pm
@@,
So, you taught your daughter to respect herself, yet, you mock girls and use them to label someone as an insult – which is, of course, being a hypocrite.
As a teaching para-professional, and as someone who has access to children – I consider that behavior also to be dangerous and worry about the children you have influence over – especially the girls.
pat
November 30th, 2009
3:50 pm
Goody, may be we can go home with secured victory and increased security with out a thriving al qaeda and taliban. It will shure be a shock when they find out those 72 virgins are men and they are the catcher…
Anyway, I hope the speach does not interupt monday night football…It’s about time he made a decision and finally made a correct decision.
pat
November 30th, 2009
3:51 pm
Damn, shoulda spell checked….
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:52 pm
Midori,
It’s the blogger that refers to him/herself as “Common Sense.” He used “Block 23″ as an add on to his name earlier, and considering the fact that I feel he has no common sense, it pained me to address him with that name, so instead, I decided to shorten the previous name he used to “Block.”
Made it simpler and made more sense to me.
Jake
November 30th, 2009
3:52 pm
Midori, Bosch, et al – Of course it’s all Obama’s doing. As the CiC he’s ordering more troops onto Afghanistan. Obama also submitted a federal budget that includes the largest deficit in the history of the country, in excess of a trillion a year. One of Bush’s greatest sine was that on top of the recession and the war in the Middle East he gave the rich thee biggest tax cut in history. Now, still in recession with dounble digit unemployment and an obviously failed Middle East campaign, Obama is commiting more troops, submitting a budget with an even larger deficit, and trying to get a huge and ultimately very expensive entitlement passed disguised as health care reform.
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
3:55 pm
Midori,
It’s weird that Block uses the same quotes that our old pal Corporal did, but I can’t help but feel he just couldn’t resist his usualy “I was in the Secret Service…….so’s I know all” – routine we were so used to.
josef nix
November 30th, 2009
3:56 pm
If a man who “turnips!” cries,
Cries not when his father dies,
‘Tis proof enough he’d rather,
Have a turnip than a father…
Midori
November 30th, 2009
3:58 pm
LOL Bosch,
hopefully I can still make his “list”
Jake
November 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
There’s no justification for Afghanistan that I can see. Do you think there’s more hope of changing the government into a stable democracy in Afghan or Iraq? Maybe Bush should have tried to dig out OBL, but we’re not doing that in Afghanistan now either. Most of you are so blinded by party politics that you can no longer distinguish right from wrong. Hundreds of lives and billions of dollars for absolutely nothing in the Middle East is wrong whether Bush does it or Obama does it. Running even larger defcits when we’re already dangerously in debt is wrong, no matter who’s doing it.
N-GA
November 30th, 2009
4:00 pm
Bosch,
Deductive reasoning causes me to speculate that President Obama didn’t agree to increase our troop strength in Afghanistan without some measurable objectives that must be met by our military AND the Afghan government. I will go out on a limb and suggest that if those objectives are not met (in terms of time frame and goals), we will see a winddown of our presence there. And finally I would conclude that none of those objectives will be released to the media.
President Obama expected answers to the following questions:
- What constitutes success (victory?)?
- How do we achieve success?
- How much support do you need?
- How long will it take?
- Will the Afghan government (installed by the previous administration) do what is necessary to get the job done?
- Will the Pakistani government do what is necessary to get the job done?
Do you think that the military and the CIA “dithered” while trying to get the answers to those questions?
Kamchak
November 30th, 2009
4:00 pm
It’s weird that Block uses the same quotes that our old pal Corporal did, but I can’t help but feel he just couldn’t resist his usualy “I was in the Secret Service…….so’s I know all” – routine we were so used to.
Bosch
Then you should check this out.
jconservative
November 30th, 2009
4:00 pm
If I may have a second verse.
Look we spent over 10 years in Viet Nam & lost over 50,000 troops. Now looking back on it what do we have to show for our efforts? Anybody!
Answer the question – what do we have to show for 10+ years in Viet Nam?
Iraq! Same question – we have been in Iraq for 5 1/2 years. What do we have to show for it? A government that may or may not make it?
A society that may or may not revert to another civil war? A nation that may or may not end up with a portion being a Radical Islamic State?
Bottom line – all we have to show for 5+ years in Iraq is more questions. Hell, we didn’t even get any cheap oil out of the place!
“ What experience and history teach is this: that peoples and governments have never learned anything from history. “ Hegel.
Kamchak
November 30th, 2009
4:02 pm
If a man who “turnips!” cries,
Cries not when his father dies,
‘Tis proof enough he’d rather,
Have a turnip than a father…
Funny you should mention that, as my da passed away three weeks ago.
Jay
November 30th, 2009
4:07 pm
“Iran is Right” has now gone bye bye.
Pogo
November 30th, 2009
4:08 pm
Godzilla, while you are “damning” why don’t you “damn” the terrorists that were trained in Afghanistan that started this whole thing? Do they have special glasses for short sightedness and if so, why don’t you get a pair?
I suppose you can now damn Obama too. I remember it so well; only a few short months ago all you could say was, “relax, Obama has got this”. What has he got exactly? He has no leadership ability a’tall and none of the programs him and his dems have pushed through have worked. Meanwhile, the American people bleed, both physically and financially, and this arrogant putz of a president parties on. Sickening.
Mrs. Godzilla
November 30th, 2009
4:13 pm
Pogo
Must I do my damning on your schedule?
Rats!
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
4:14 pm
N-GA,
I’ll go out on that limb with you (hopefully it won’t break with both of us on it
) – but I have faith that Obama has very specific objectives, and does not necessarily trust the Afghan government, and I feel that if these goals aren’t made – he will have enough sense to get out. Of course it’s all speculation and we’ll see how he handles it, but I have a feeling it will be alot different than the previous CiC.
As far as the war itself goes, I don’t necessarily support it – I’m willing to try this stategy and see how it works without complaining, but after 8 years, the populace does not have the stomach for another slaughter of our soldiers, and won’t put up with it – and I don’t think Obama does either.
Were they dithering? Hehehe. The wingnuts new favorite word. I think a little, yes. To test the waters, see what was going on with the elections (unless we were behind that all along – for what reason is another topic), and to gather the best intel. I’d much rather see him dithering a little. Dithering can be good – I wish Bush had done a little more dithering before going into Iraq. I’m disappointed in the troop increase, but not surprised. I see the point of it either way, and damn – at least we don’t have Rumsfeld anymore! Good lord!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Midori,
Maybe you are still on the list. Has Block addressed you? What about sfd? Y’all were #1 and #2 weren’t you?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kamchak,
My condolensces. That’s rough – sorry.
Jake
November 30th, 2009
4:14 pm
jcon – Westmoreland went to his grave swearing vietnam stopped the dominoes from falling, an opinion shared by about zero historians. I give Iraq about a 10% chance of success, Afghanistan about 1%. When the troops come home the puppet governments we’ve installed will collapse, probably quite rapidly, like they did in South Vietnam and Cambodia. Actually, it’s done more harm than good, more Muslims hate us than ever before and we’ve probably created more radical militants than we’ve killed. All you have to do is picture us invaded and occupied by the Chinese, and ask yourself how you’d feel and what you’d do. Most of us, except for Bosch, and Midori and USinUK, wouldn’t like it very much.
Mrs. Godzilla
November 30th, 2009
4:15 pm
Oh and Pogo
Wilst you are beating your chest, beat it at the idiots who got us into this mess…..
Midori
November 30th, 2009
4:15 pm
KAMCHAK!!!
You put Sherlock Holmes to shame!!
Taxpayer
November 30th, 2009
4:16 pm
Be one with the rutabaga. You cannot squeeze blood from a rutabaga.
josef nix
November 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
K’chak–
My apologies for being so insensitive…I should have thought first. I’m sorry…
Jackie
November 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
Now that President Obama has made a decision to send troops to Afghanistan, in my opinion a very bad decision, what will those who supported President Bush and his inept administration say now?
The Pentagon issued a report last week indicating that we only have 50,000 troops in reserve. If we send 40,000, the arithmetic says that leaves only 10,000 troops to fulfill the rotation quota. Will we have to leave the troops on the ground longer than the 14 months they are staying now?; we the time at home be shorter?; how many more suicides will there be in the military ranks?’ how profound will PTSD become amongst the returning troops?
The solution to the problem appears to be renewing the draft. This would bring some of the warriors we have heard everyday to the fight and our problems would be solved in less than 24 hours.
Bud Wiser
November 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
My oh my, I disappear for a happy Thanksgiving weekend, and come back to read all this venomous frothing by both sides?
It is clear that when the Bud is away, the morons will fray….. with each other.
I would chastise you all to be civil to each other, but as I have said before, I would be better served reading Shakespeare to chimpanzees and expecting more comprehension from them than from any of you.
Kamchak
November 30th, 2009
4:27 pm
Bosch
Thanks–I understand that you care for elderly parents also. It was the big C–slow growing so I don’t think that was the primary cause. He passed away swiftly at home and not in a nursing home. I don’t think he wanted a lingering wasting away kinda thing.
josef
No offense taken. I made my peace with my Da’s mortality some months ago. He is now on the next leg of his spiritual journey.
Godspeed Pop.
josef nix
November 30th, 2009
4:27 pm
Bud…
Check it out…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem
Mrs. Godzilla
November 30th, 2009
4:30 pm
Kamchak
My thoughts are with you……
Jackie
November 30th, 2009
4:32 pm
@Kamchak
Best of luck with your family situation.
josef nix
November 30th, 2009
4:32 pm
K’chak–Thank you.
JAY–welcome home and thanks for the chuckles. Hope all is well with you and yours…
josef nix
November 30th, 2009
4:32 pm
K’chak–Thank you.
JAY–welcome home and thanks for the chuckles. Hope all is well with you and yours…
Bosch
November 30th, 2009
4:34 pm
Kamchak,
Good attitude. It’s still an adjustment when they’ve gone – we had a death in the family last month, and even though we came to peace, it’s weird when they are gone – especially when they were such a big part of your time.
The death we had last month was a year in the making, and it was emotionally draining for all of us. I think that is the worst. It certainly doesn’t make it any easier for you either way. Condolensces again.
Kamchak
November 30th, 2009
4:42 pm
Mrs. Godzilla, Jackie, josef, Bosch
Thank you.
Del
November 30th, 2009
4:43 pm
Jay,
Re: your 4:07pm…Outstanding!
pat
November 30th, 2009
4:53 pm
God bless all the troops and may the additional troops save lives and bring speedy victory to the Afghan war.
The best way to get the troops home is to win the war as quickly as paossible.
Soothsayer
November 30th, 2009
5:14 pm
The Grand Failure of Government to Limit Concentration of Power
I thought you might need a little cheering up (sarc) on Monday! Bend over and grab your ankles.
md
November 30th, 2009
5:16 pm
Barry had no choice since he was already on record from the campaign trail. He painted himself into the corner with few options, and now it will probably end up as a lose- lose for him.
His delayed decision makes him look like an indecisive leader. The generals have wanted more troops from the get go, so his delay should have ended up with a withdrawal, otherwise he will be remembered as “dithering”.
And to the idea that he has benchmarks and will pull out later – won’t happen. If he pulls out later he will be questioned as to why not pull out now instead. He will be seen as a quitter. His only hope is the surge will work and it needs to work soon.
And no, I don’t agree with the decision. I think the afghans are the ones that need to send 40k more troops, not us.
Soothsayer
November 30th, 2009
5:19 pm
Web of Deception and What Must Be Hidden
This has to be my favorite. Make sure you take note of the date before you start reading.
Good night all.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 30th, 2009
5:20 pm
If Jaggie was in the military, then I’m a Chinese woman.
@@
November 30th, 2009
5:27 pm
Kamchak:
Losing a Dad is tough no matter what your age when the goodbyes are offered. Me? 17 years old.
Sorry to hear about your Dad.
Will josef’s mishap conjure up sad memories if I continue to call you “Turnip”?
I’ll make the sacrifice, but I sure don’t wanna.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 30th, 2009
5:31 pm
SAVANNAH, Ga. (AP) – The hurricane season is ending with barely a whimper.
This was the quietest hurricane season since 2006, when none of the nine storms hit the U.S. coast. The calmest season before that was in 1997, which had just seven storms.
Question for the blog- Is there ever a point in which liberals begin to feel like the utter asses they are?
AmVet
November 30th, 2009
5:31 pm
md, I agree.
BHO was culpable of NOT following the blithering, but not dithering, George Bush I in that he did not adhere to the policy of Ready! Fire! Aim!
A gargantuan mistake!
Especially knowing just how close we were to “victory” after those seven plus stellar years there of non-stop military success and neo-con might, all the more unforgivable…
Re that 5:20,
Sounds good to me, henceforth she will be known as Bao-Yu Duhng…
Matilda
November 30th, 2009
5:31 pm
Kamchack, I’m so sorry for your loss. I just lost a life-long friend this weekend, way too young. We at least thought she’d make it to 50, but no. Was glad to be there at least. Freebird came on the radio this morning and I lost it.
@@
November 30th, 2009
5:33 pm
I’ll echo md’s thoughts on the predicament Obama has created for himself (with help from his supporters) of course.
Obama simply does not think before he speaks. It’s something that has plagued him throughout his time on the national stage.
That and he talks waaaaayyy too much. Like way…..way too much.
I’ve come to the conclusion that he can’t think and talk at the same time. That’s probably why he uses a teleprompter when he engages.
Common Sense
November 30th, 2009
5:34 pm
To “I Report”:
Give “Jackie” a little bit of a break. He was a “leg” in the 1st Cav. in Nam. He paid his dues and tho I seldom agree with him he deserves to be heard.
To Bosch:
Your original questions @ 3:20: “How do you KNOW what I would think before you even ask? Do you have a special crystal ball? Are you telepathic?”
My answer @ 3:33: “When it comes to liberals …………….. absolutely !”
Your response @ 3:35: “When it comes to liberals, absolutely what?”
My answer again: “When it comes to liberals …………….. absolutely !”
You need to do a better job of keeping up with your posts …………….
To Midori:
Looks like this “Corporal” poster you keep referring to must have gotten to you as you seem to remember a lot of what he posted.
Matilda
November 30th, 2009
5:37 pm
“Is there ever a point in which liberals begin to feel like the utter asses they are?”
Yes. Sometimes we find ourselves listening to the blatherings of a neo-fascist thinking, “Wow, this person really cares about our country…” Then we realize that buzzing sound is really just a regurgitated Hannity or Beck kibblet, basted in lies for that extra special chickeny flavor. D’OH! And we feel like total azzes for being suckered.
@@
November 30th, 2009
5:38 pm
Oops! let me add something to my 5:33.
…and why he sputters and splatters when confronted with a difficult question to which the teleprompter offers no script.
getalife
November 30th, 2009
5:42 pm
They are pressuring Pakistan to find obl saying it will end this war.
Perhaps a second chance to get him.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 30th, 2009
5:42 pm
The third reason Obama’s strategy will fail is the way our forces are limited in this fight. We have an Army chief of staff who believes that if diversity were “damaged” it would be worse than the Fort Hood massacre. And we demand of our best warriors behavior that is irrational in war.
In 2004, security operators from Blackwater were ambushed and murdered in Fallujah, their bodies mutilated and hung from a bridge. The terrorist who organized and conducted that attack — Ahmed Hashim Abed — was one of the most-wanted terrorists in Iraq.
Abed is typical of the enemy: ruthless, implacable and above all barbaric.
As HUMAN EVENTS’ Rowan Scarborough reported last week, Navy SEALs captured Abed in a nighttime raid on September 3. And sometime after he was captured, one of the SEALs apparently punched the guy in the mouth and he suffered a split lip. He complained he’d been abused, and now instead of the medals they undoubtedly earned by bravery and skill in the raid, three SEALs — Matthew McCabe, Jonathan Keefe and Julio Huertas — are facing a January court-martial for prisoner abuse.
Right or wrong, bookman?
md
November 30th, 2009
5:43 pm
“And we feel like total azzes for being suckered.”
If one follows the dogma of either party they have deservedly been “suckered”.
josef nix
November 30th, 2009
5:47 pm
whiner
“Question for the blog- Is there ever a point in which liberals begin to feel like the utter asses they are?”
I did, just a few minutes ago.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 30th, 2009
5:51 pm
Private- Never before in my life have I seen a trooper go totally hysterical in public.
And I still haven’t.
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matilduh- You are at the blog of a moonbat, hahaha, who earns a living by dutifully passing on DNC talking points.
Now, what about those hurricanes?
We don’t have anymore?
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gitmo- If you were Pakistan and were threatened by harmless little world girlie to go get a relentless mass murderer who’s just itching to kill your whole people off, who would you listen to?
josef nix
November 30th, 2009
5:52 pm
If I had to draw a distinction between liberals and conservatives, I would venture that liberals are too naive and conservatives too cynical.
getalife
November 30th, 2009
5:54 pm
Andy,
Perhaps we can increase “the wanted dead or alive” to 1 trillion.
They could buy Dubai and be famous.
DoggoneGA
November 30th, 2009
5:58 pm
“Right or wrong, bookman?”
Why don’t you try posting the WHOLE set of charges: that they are charged with derelicion of duty, impeding an investigation and making false statements. That’s just a BIT more serious than a bloody lip. Especially as the charges were perferred by Army Maj. Gen. Charles Cleveland, commander of Special Operations Command Central.
It might just be BARELY possible he knows a bit more about it than the biased sources you keep posting from.
DoggoneGA
November 30th, 2009
6:00 pm
“I would venture that liberals are too naive and conservatives too cynical.”
I would have put it the other way around.
Taxpayer
November 30th, 2009
6:00 pm
The Democratic Party mascot is the donkey. Any ass should know that.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie
November 30th, 2009
6:02 pm
Say, what ever happened to Pakistan’s glorious offense to drive the Taliban from the Swat Valley?
You know, the key to our success in Afghanistan that Hairplugs was puffing up on?
It kinda petered out, didn’t it?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie
November 30th, 2009
6:03 pm
Right or wrong, bookman?
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 30th, 2009
6:04 pm
If I had to draw a distinction between liberals and conservatives, I would venture that liberals are too naive and conservatives too cynical.
You might be on to something there but if I wasn’t cynical, I wouldn’t be me, I’d be somebody else.
Joan
November 30th, 2009
6:05 pm
Please dear Lord, let this country recognize the nightmare it is in, and have the strength of our founders to do the right thing. Please let us survive this nightmare, and bring on those elections in 2010 and 2012. Please, while you are at it, give us a presidential contender who has run companies well, who hasn’t got cheating in his history, and who gives us more than platitudes, and one who won’t sell out to the highest bidder.
md
November 30th, 2009
6:05 pm
“I would venture that liberals are too naive and conservatives too cynical.”
That would depend on whether one is referring to individuals or their representatives as the representatives are banking on the “naive”.
AmVet
November 30th, 2009
6:06 pm
So after The Hero of the Texas ANG accomplished NOTHING in seven years there, BHO wants to do the LBJ in Operation Enduring Quagmire, and the bloodthirsty conned still won’t salute him.
Traitors.
“Question for the blog- Is there ever a point in which liberals begin to feel like the utter asses they are?”
As one of the right wingers shuts up Bao-Yu for crying about getting humiliated by a real man.
Man, is that question ironic…
Go 1st Cav!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHerQxG63Bw
DoggoneGA
November 30th, 2009
6:07 pm
“Right or wrong, bookman?”
derelicition of duty, making false statements, impeding an investigation…right or wrong whiner?
Matilda
November 30th, 2009
6:08 pm
Whiner, I believe the Hurricanes had a terrific season! Jacory Harris seems to be a nice young man as well as a talented quarterback. With all their young talent, look for even more Hurricane action next year.
Matilda
November 30th, 2009
6:10 pm
AmVet, may I repeat this? I think it needs repeating:
So after The Hero of the Texas ANG accomplished NOTHING in seven years there, BHO wants to do the LBJ in Operation Enduring Quagmire, and the bloodthirsty conned still won’t salute him. Traitors.
Well stated.
@@
November 30th, 2009
6:11 pm
Admittedly, I have been naive, but that’s when I was a Democrat. I wouldn’t call myself cynical just yet. Irritated? Yes!
Cynical? No!
A skeptical optimist? That’s the ticket!
md
November 30th, 2009
6:13 pm
“Right or wrong, bookman?”
Definitely wrong – what would one expect from a PC war? Pretty soon our troops will have a set of questions they must first ask the enemy before being allowed to fire their weapons. Of course question #2 will never get asked.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: Obozo, our little world girlie
November 30th, 2009
6:13 pm
duhgone- Who is their commander in chief?
Yeah, you’re right, world girlie is.
Right or wrong, bookman?