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RW-(the original)
November 29th, 2009
8:52 pm
Oh My !
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
8:54 pm
@Common Sense
Israel may attack Iran, but, it will be to everyone’s detriment.
How does one keep the Straits open, regardless of the consequences to Iran? Do you nuke them? If so, then the nuclear strike presents a hazard to everyone and everything using that passage with its most narrow point being 16 miles.
@@
November 29th, 2009
9:08 pm
So what….is this a bribe or Obama’s saber rattling?
Obama called for closer collaboration against all extremist groups, and his letter named five: al-Qaida, the Afghan Taliban, the Haqqani network, Lashkar-e-Taiba, and the Pakistani Taliban organization known as Tehrik-e-Taliban. Using vague diplomatic language, he said that ambiguity in Pakistan’s relationship with any of them could no longer be ignored.
Jones, a retired Marine Corps general, was more precise in conversations with top Pakistani government and military leaders, U.S. and foreign officials said, stating that certain things have to happen in Pakistan to ensure Afghanistan’s security. If Pakistan cannot deliver, he warned, the United States may be impelled to use any means at its disposal to rout insurgents based along Pakistan’s western and southern borders with Afghanistan.
http://www.mercurynews.com/politics-government/ci_13890398?nclick_check=1
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
9:26 pm
Jackie:
For Israel it’s worth the risk.
In my opinion, I believe the “allied” navies could handle it. These other guys (i.e., Iran) are extremely weaker than they tout. Remember Iraq? All talk and no walk.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 29th, 2009
9:39 pm
I know my coaching staff sucks and I have made it quite clear. Same as I know our “president” sucks and I’ve made quite clear.
The results are the same, both teams are getting their asses kicked.
The solution?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 29th, 2009
9:42 pm
Everybody else knows they suck too, this is not fake science-
SAN FRANCISCO/CHICAGO, Nov 29 (Reuters) – U.S. consumers
spent significantly less per person at the start of the holiday
season this weekend, dimming hopes for a retail comeback that
would help propel the economy early in 2010.
And we do know what the solution is….
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
9:44 pm
@Common Sense
With the number of land based cruise missiles – Chinese made Silk Worms – a thousands of heavy artillery pieces, what could any navy do to stop the Iranians from blocking the Straits that are only 16 miles wide. As you know, most modern artillery pieces can easily span that distance.
As for Israel being willing to take the risk, it would not be in our best interest, therefore any “risk” taken by Israel is one that falls on our doorstep.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 29th, 2009
9:48 pm
With the number of land based cruise missiles – Chinese made Silk Worms – a thousands of heavy artillery pieces, what could any navy do to stop the Iranians from blocking the Straits that are only 16 miles wide.
When they turn on their radars, they die.
A silkworm is anti ship, therefore the ship would launch it’s F-18 Hornets and make mincemeat out of the missile battery.
geez
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
9:52 pm
@I Report
What about firing the missile from caves along the coast?
What about pulsing the radar? Turn it on, turn it off quickly just to pick up a target and let the missile use it’s radar?
Anti-ship means the missile is designed to stop shipping, not required to be on a ship to fire.
getalife
November 29th, 2009
9:53 pm
So, the Dubai collapse leads to more world wide bailouts.
Looks like the cards are still folding from the bush depression.
Good thing he is back to fight those pesky regulations to keep it from happening again.
Wait, what in the world is he thinking?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 29th, 2009
9:56 pm
The computer-based command-and-decision element is the core of the Aegis Combat System. This interface makes the ACS capable of simultaneous operation against almost all kinds of threats. The Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System program is intended to enable the Aegis system to act in a Sea-based Ballistic Missile Defense function, to counter short- and medium-range ballistic missiles of the variety typically employed by a number of potential opponent states.
You better stay in your cave, Jaggie.
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
9:59 pm
@I Report
You forgot to mention the artillery pieces. With an estimated 1,000 artillery shells falling in the area and not being able to skirt the coast, what would any naval commander do to prevent his ship(s) from being destroyed?
Secondly, what oil carrier could obtain insurance to sail in those waters?
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
10:01 pm
@I Report
How many anti-missiles do you think any destroyer can carry?
What is the accuracy of those missiles?
It only takes one hit on a aircraft carrier to put the entire battle group at enormous risk; no planes to fly cover.
Come on Admiral, what is your plan?
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
10:02 pm
To I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! :
Thanks you sir for your 9:48 but in Jackie’s defense, he was a “leg” in the Cav. and may not be up to speed on Air Force and/or Naval capabilites.
Acutally, if they did try to stop the oil flow, this would be our excuse to clean their plow.
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
10:05 pm
@Common Sense
In your defense, you do not have a clue as to naval and Air Force capabilities.
How do YOU stop the artillery shells from raining down on your naval convoy?
Do you think any missile defense is 100% accurate?
If so, point out any one of them?
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
10:07 pm
Jackie:
I’m glad you weren’t in command on D-Day or our troops would have never left the pubs in England.
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
10:15 pm
@Common Sense
I am glad that you weren’t a part of the forces during D-Day, as you would not have been able to leave the port with that load you are carrying in your pants.
Secondly, how do you know what I would have done about anything? I am point out what our options are; I do know when the call comes to “saddle up,” you f—ing saddle up, no if, no ands, no buts. FIRST TEAM, jarhead!
Third, here is a link for you to look at and understand what part of our naval capabilities are, know that what you read is only part of what the military makes public. Do you think you may be able to understand what their problems are?
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
10:18 pm
@Common Sense
Sorry about the link not posting. Here it is.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/systems/aegis-bmd.htm
getalife
November 29th, 2009
10:19 pm
iamanutjob is toying with us knowing there will no attack to unite their country.
Silly cons, just another unintended consequence of the collapse and two nation building occupations.
You have done enough damage to the world cons.
Take a break on your warmongering and get ready for our collapse.
Shouldn’t ya’ll be organizing for a State to break away from the union or something?
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
10:25 pm
At ease private Jackie, I’ll be in the company area all day.
“The safest place in Korea was right behind a platoon of Marines. Lord, how they could fight!”
MGen. Frank E. Lowe, United States Army; Korea, 26 January 1952
“Why in hell can’t the Army do it if the Marines can. They are the same kind of men; why can’t they be like Marines.”
Gen. John J. “Black Jack” Pershing, United States Army; 12 February 1918
P.S. Don’t get your fatigues in a wad, I’m only funnin ya …………….
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
10:29 pm
@Common Sense
You love to talk about Marine history, ancient history at that. What would the Marines do if the were on a big float to stop the Iranians from firing in the Straits?
Let us be current with your agenda.
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
10:31 pm
@Common Sense
By the way, Gen. Jones (Marine Corps Commandant) has suggested that we do not attack Iran. If this man who has information, training and the Marine spirit, why do you think he would suggest that we do not attack?
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
10:36 pm
Jackie:
Not our job unless we hear “Marines, prepare to disembark” or “Marines, stand-by to repel boarders”. Basically, Marines are assault troops. Our job is to close with and destroy the enemy as infantry riflemen. If given the orders, Marines will do what needs to be done.
…………… Prior to that it’s up up to the Air Force/Navy.
By the way ……….. as you know this is one of my favorites and is not all that “ancient” as you say ………….
“We have two companies of Marines running rampant all over the northern half of this island, and three Army regiments pinned down in the southwestern corner, doing nothing. What the hell is going on?”
Gen. John W. Vessey Jr., United States Army, Chairman of the the Joint Chiefs of Staff
during the assault on Grenada, 1983
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
10:38 pm
@Common Sense
I am sure you are aware the Marines are tasked to take ground, the Army is tasked to maintain the ground.
Of course, you would carry out your orders, as would I!
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
10:41 pm
Jackie:
“Former” Commandant ………. entitled to his opinion. By the way, I’m not saying we should attack them either. Let Israel take out their nuclear sites/capability. If Iran then ups the ante by closing the straits then we “keep them open”. Their call.
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
10:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0uw8jhQx5U&feature=related
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
10:46 pm
@Common Sense
Israel has no chance of taking out the nuclear capabilities of Iran. They are not dealing with Iraq or Syria.
The problem lies in the fact that if anything is done adversely in that area, insurance rates go through the roof and the price of oil gets prohibitive. Economy is in the toilet again.
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
10:55 pm
Jackie:
Some things are worth it …………… just ask past generations of Americans.
Taps !
Strait Away
November 29th, 2009
11:18 pm
Chill, Jackie! Worst case scenarios have all be assessed.
Contingency plans are in place.
Sheesh!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 30th, 2009
5:19 am
Well, Hickabee’s goose is cooked-
In 1989, Clemmons, then 17, was convicted in Little Rock for aggravated robbery. He was paroled in 2000 after then-Gov. Mike Huckabee commuted Clemmons’ 95-year prison sentence. Huckabee, who was criticized during his run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 for the number of clemencies and commutations he granted, cited Clemmons’ age at the time of the sentence. -Urinal
Now he can become a democrat.
Rightwing Trolls
November 30th, 2009
6:01 am
“Acutally, if they did try to stop the oil flow, this would be our excuse to clean their plow.”
Another Neocon/chickenhawk from the 101st chairborne lays bare it’s true feelings…
Your “excuse” to go warmongering = American soldiers dying.
Why do chickenhawk “conservatives” hate America and American soldiers so much?
Dave R.
November 30th, 2009
6:38 am
Actually, Troll, if any one country did attempt to stop the flow of oil in that area against the wishes of those countries who wanted to sell their oil to us unhindered, it would constitute a threat to our national security and we would be justified in using any and all measures to get that flow started again. It has nothing to do with warmongering nor hating our soldiers, despite what you may mistakenly believe.
Of course, if you libs weren’t so against drilling in our own backyard to get all the oil and natural gas we need domestically, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion, now would we?
jt
November 30th, 2009
6:47 am
History teaches us that the decline of a society and the demise of a government comes with the institutionalization of corruption and a wanton disregard for the written law. Such is our situation today, wherein the states have become puppets of an all-powerful federal government that confiscates more and more private property while exerting increasing control over every aspect of our lives.
If we are to protect our society from despotism and decline, whose counsel should we then cherish? Should we abide by thousands of years of experience and the wisdom of history’s greatest philosophers — Polybius, Plato, Aristotle, Montesquieu, Locke, Jefferson, Adams and Madison among them? Men who understood the nature of a government’s despotic decline and sought to construct a system to counter it?
Or should we disregard their guidance and follow instead the Statist Socialists? Should we heed Steny Hoyer, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Barack Obama?
Fire all incumbants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doggone/GA
November 30th, 2009
6:56 am
“Of course, if you libs weren’t so against drilling in our own backyard to get all the oil and natural gas we need domestically, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion, now would we?”
Yes, we would still be having it. Try educating yourself before spouting off idiocies. Our in-ground, known reserves of oil are JUST about enough to last us a year. and it would take about 10 years to actually get the drilling done, and get the oil “on-line” – and we would STILL run out in about a year. Do the math.
jt
November 30th, 2009
7:00 am
The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775 – you have had 234 years to get it right; it is broke.
Social Security was established in 1935 – you have had 74 years to get it right; it is broke.
Fannie Mae was established in 1938 – you have had 71 years to get it right; it is broke.
The “War on Poverty” started in 1964 – you have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to “the poor”; it hasn’t worked and our entire country is broke.
Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965 – you’ve had 44 years to get it right; they are broke.
Freddie Mac was established in 1970 – you have had 39 years to get it right; it is broke.
Trillions of dollars were spent in the massive political payoffs called TARP, the “Stimulus”, the Omnibus Appropriations Act of 2009… none show any signs of working, although ACORN appears to have found a new b***h: the American taxpayer.
“Cash for Clunkers” was established in 2009 and went broke in 2009! It took good dependable cars (that were the best some people could afford) and replaced them with high-priced and less-affordable cars, mostly Japanese. A good percentage of the profits went out of the country. And the American taxpayers take the hit for Congress’ generosity in burning three billion more of our dollars on failed experiments.
So with a perfect 100% failure rate and a record that proves that “services” you shove down our throats are failing faster and faster, you want Americans to believe you can be trusted with a government-run health care system?
20% of our entire economy?
With all due respect,
Are you f-ing crazy?
josef nix
November 30th, 2009
7:00 am
JAY–
Just in case you check in, number one, hope your holiday was restful, peaceful and full of the good things of life. Number two: the AJC’s Moderator has pulled its stunt again on the one that has been a bone of contention between me and you in the past. No unblocking or song and dance two-step necessary. It’s just funny now and makes for semi-interesting get-together conversation…
Dave R.
November 30th, 2009
7:17 am
Doggone, you’re not even close to the numbers on oil and natural gas numbers for North America. Go crawl back under your rock and sleep off the weekend binge.
jt
November 30th, 2009
7:25 am
Do you want to see what a corrupt centralized authority does? Google “Grove Park Plaza”.
As a state senator, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee coauthored an Illinois law creating a new pool of tax credits for developers. As a US senator, he pressed for increased federal subsidies. And as a presidential candidate, he has campaigned on a promise to create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund that could give developers an estimated $500 million a year.
The squat brick buildings of Grove Parc Plaza, in a dense neighborhood that Barack Obama represented for eight years as a state senator, hold 504 apartments subsidized by the federal government for people who can’t afford to live anywhere else.
But it’s not safe to live here.
About 99 of the units are vacant, many rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems, such as collapsed roofs and fire damage. Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open. Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks. In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale – a score so bad the buildings now face demolition.
Grove Parc and several other prominent failures were developed and managed by Obama’s close friends and political supporters. Those people profited from the subsidies even as many of Obama’s constituents suffered.
a community organizer, Obama’s a hell of a public speaker.
The poor people living here have gotten the shaft from Obama and his developer buddies. And the mainstream media couldn’t care less.
I guess like all good lefties, Obama measures INTENTIONS, not RESULTS. And it doesn’y hurt to make money off of the good intentions.
Boogers for the Children Fund
November 30th, 2009
7:34 am
Jesse “The Wall-eyed Basturd” Jackson will be in Atlanta today promoting free housing giveaways for those who purchased more than they could afford on their ARM and interest only loans.
Kick em to the curb Mr Banker-Man.
USinUK
November 30th, 2009
7:43 am
too all my fellow Scottish Bookmaniacs … Happy St. Andrew’s Day!!
(now, go eat some haggis!)
Rightwing Troll
November 30th, 2009
7:46 am
And deep fried Mars bars…
Doggone/GA
November 30th, 2009
7:49 am
“Doggone, you’re not even close to the numbers on oil and natural gas numbers for North America”
Absolutely correct…because *I* never mentioned natural gas, only oil. Try improving your reading comprehension before you advise someone to crawl under rocks.
Rightwing Troll
November 30th, 2009
7:52 am
Drill baby drill!!!
Oh wait, Jeb didn’t want us drilling off the coast of Fla because it would create eyesores…
That pantywaisted, squishy liberal Jeb…
NIMBY seems to affect “conservatives” as well, eh….
USinUK
November 30th, 2009
7:52 am
RT – you sound like a true Glaswegian!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 30th, 2009
7:58 am
yosef- Relax, global warming will inundate Grove Parc with 20′ of water and rampant stray icebergs, which should clean all of the filth out of it, thus reducing the democrat party’s reelection liability.
Think positive, dearie.
Normal
November 30th, 2009
8:12 am
MR. PRESIDENT, DO NOT SEND MORE TROOPS TO AFGHANISTAN! BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!
Normal
November 30th, 2009
8:14 am
Today is last vacation day…Yay and Boo…if you know what I mean…
Good Morning, everybody!
USinUK
November 30th, 2009
8:18 am
good morning, Normal … did you have a good vacay with your familia??
Normal
November 30th, 2009
8:20 am
USinUK, Oh, Yes! One of the best! There was a lot of love. Enough to go around two times!
Normal
November 30th, 2009
8:30 am
josef nix
November 30th, 2009
7:00 am
Jay, what Josef is really trying to say is F the moderator and free expression of opinion. Especially about the War of Northern Aggression.
We are all adults here and most of us are amateur historians. Josef and some others here are fonts of good information. Let it be so…just sayin’
Common Sense
November 30th, 2009
9:17 am
Rightwing Trolls :
“Chickenhawk” unless I have already been there and done that ….. which I have ……… how about you?
By the way ……… did you read the book “Chickenhawk”? It’s excellent.
Rightwing Troll
November 30th, 2009
10:35 am
Negative, had better things to do.
Your service is to be commended and saluted to the highest degree, so forgive me when I say it does not give you the moral authority foment war on those you simply disagree with.
And if war is to be had, I’d just as soon those who’ve experienced it be the ones who decide if the cause is just and honorable to send American soldiers in harm’s way.
I will not be supporting Obama’s decision to send more troops to Afghanistan, unless he can tell me (and make me believe) what our objective is there and how fast the troops come home once the objective is met. We didn’t start this war, and we blew the chance to capture or neutralize the prime target. Now Policing the Taliban and protecting Pakistan is not a good enough reason to continue on. If the Afgani want to live under the Taliban, let them, only when the people have have had enough will the Taliban be overthrown.