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Bruno
November 29th, 2009
11:38 am
901
AmVet
November 29th, 2009
11:45 am
josef, if you think I excoriated Bush, gimme a couple more years to see if and how George Bush II shiites the bed just as bad. I will not hold back because he is a non-Republican, of that I can assure you.
He already looks to be like his predecessor, VERY happy with the status quo and likely WAY in over his head…
Morning, B. (And congrats on being one 901. Me? I’d prefer 910, so I could be one after 909!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXt9ShJsAIo
I do not view this confab just in terms of MY world, but THE world.
I have a son; I hope to have grandchildren one day.
The quality of the world we leave them is the most solemn duty and most important responsibility I can think of.
And I will never, ever give a free pass to those that sold and continue to sell their souls to the company store for a few pieces of short-sighted silver.
All the while abrogating THEIR responsibilities to the quality of that world via unbridle gluttony and malfeasance. And yes, deadly ineptitude.
I’m just not wired that way, my friend.
Ike was right, but almost nobody today wants to grok it…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
@@
November 29th, 2009
11:47 am
Afghanistan is where I think Obama has been done a terrible disservice by his supporters during the campaign. He’s not totally absolved of guilt. He promoted Afghanistan as “his right war” to win their support.
Democrats in Revolt Over Obama’s Troop Surge
The Democrats and their supporters basically offered Obama up as a sacrificial lamb. He went along willingly.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
11:51 am
RW–so, how do I tally your vote?
Bruno– 901! Looks like we’ve got competition, RW.
AmVet–
I’d never put you in the Obamaniac corner. And as for “Bush II,” I’m inclined that direction myself,,. and there’s more than a little of the Judas about him …
larry
November 29th, 2009
11:53 am
While no war is right, Afghanistan should have been the only war fought. Period. We would have been out of there by now if we had the right leadership in place.
larry
November 29th, 2009
11:54 am
906!!
Bruno
November 29th, 2009
11:54 am
“The quality of the world we leave them is the most solemn duty and most important responsibility I can think of. And I will never, ever give a free pass to those that sold and continue to sell their souls to the company store for a few pieces of short-sighted silver. All the while abrogating THEIR responsibilities to the quality of that world via unbridle gluttony and malfeasance. And yes, deadly ineptitude.”
I respect your point of view, was more questioning why it is important to you for the far-right wingers to publicly excoriate Bush. By the end of his term, Bush’s popularity numbers were less than 20%, which is a pretty slim margin of support.
As for me personally, I view his term as a mixed bag. I think his biggest failure was the inability to modify strategies as he went along. For his administration to say they didn’t see the financial meltdown coming is inexcusable in my book.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
11:55 am
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“…sacrficial lamb…?” Not to get the uproar started again, but they DID promote him as the Messiah and I said back then that his opponents would be put in the shade when his bleeding crowd had the rose colored glasses ripped off…
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November 29th, 2009
11:56 am
Upchuck- Yes, on Tuesday evening, I am 0-1 so far.
~~~~~
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t he ask for the job for two years, even as he ignored the one he had that could have affected these situations, and claim he was the man to fix all these problems?
RW- The democrats have no intentions of winning this war. That would be cruel and discriminatory against the terrorists. Why do we always get to be #1? We’ll let them win this game and we will be better for it as a nation and the world will look upon us fondly and with love, blah, blah.
Just look at their propaganda strategy, which I’m sure bookman will reinforce in spades on Monday, while still dodging the fat lip court martial question, they are ALREADY poll testing their excuse for losing.
If I was a soldier in Afghanistan, and God forgive me for saying this, I WOULD shoot my commanders, as democrats are want for them to do. You can taste, smell and feel the massacre of American soldiers the democrats are setting us up for, trotting out more defenseless troops and TELLING THE ENEMY TO THEIR FACES that they have the same constitutional rights as any other American citizen. Fat lip, Ackmed? Here, call my buddies at 1-800-ObozoJustice and we’ll sue the great Satan on your behalf.
Anybody want to guess how many trial lawyers will be setting up shop in Kabul this coming Tuesday, with We speak Raghead signs on their doors?
RW-(the original)
November 29th, 2009
11:57 am
josef,
Since I doubt the Norwood that plays for the Falcons is Mary, I’ll stick with giving her the “inheritance.”
Bruno
November 29th, 2009
11:58 am
“Me? I’d prefer 910, so I could be one after 909!”
LOL, Am. I never saw that clip before.
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November 29th, 2009
12:02 pm
Other than that, it should be great fun to watch the pacifists and surrender monkeys at the AJC suck it up for the party and cheer on the war for oil.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
12:03 pm
Bruno–yeah, but now you’re 911…sure your name ain’t Giuliani?
RW–gotcha!
So, that’s Norwood-5, Reed-Zip
Bruno
November 29th, 2009
12:04 pm
You’re the Chicago expert, aren’t you, Reporter? Vikes (-10 1/2) looks attractive, but I hate those high point spreads. I’m also looking into Tenn (-3) vs. Arizona. Warner is banged up, so might be a tough game for the Cards.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2009
12:04 pm
Upchuck- Yes, on Tuesday evening, I am 0-1 so far.
Huh?
Did you have a happy Thanksgiving? What did you do with the game that you harvested?
Bosch–if you are around–at the half
Chelsea 2
Arsenal 0
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
12:07 pm
OOPS
Make that Norwood-6, Reed-zip…don’t need this to go to the Supreme Court
Bruno
November 29th, 2009
12:11 pm
“Huh?”
I think Reporter was responding to my football question.
“Giants over Broncos. Falcons over Bucs, GFY (good for you) dirty birds. Texans over the Colts (yep, I said it.) Vikings over the Bears by a ton. Patriots at the Saints”
Texans over the Colts?? Can’t say I’m sure about the Falcons either at (-12 1/2).
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
12:15 pm
OCCUPIED ATLANTA–Early returns from polls outside the Perimeter show Mary Norwood in a shut-out lead over Kassim Reed in the race for Atlanta Mayor. Though voting was light, Norwood appears to have support from across the spectrum…
Bruno
November 29th, 2009
12:21 pm
“Though voting was light, Norwood appears to have support from across the spectrum…”
Driving through the northwestern edge of Buckhead on Thursday, all I saw were Norwood signs, for what that’s worth. It may ultimately be a split vote along racial lines since I don’t think they have major differences in their platforms.
Wish me luck today on the football, josef. Paying for Liza Minelli to appear at your wake is going to be pricey.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 29th, 2009
12:21 pm
Upchuck, apologies, I thought you were Bruno.
The game will be shipped down here on Monday. Pheasant and duck. Yummmy. Roasted pheasant is to die for.
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Bruno- Give the points. The purple people will cover.
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November 29th, 2009
12:23 pm
Bruno- My picks are not factoring in any points.
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November 29th, 2009
12:26 pm
Add to the predictions- Adrian Peterson for 179 yards on 17 carries.
Bruno
November 29th, 2009
12:27 pm
“Bruno- My picks are not factoring in any points.”
Appreciate you clearing that up. I’m looking for some kind of edge today, have been treading water lately. I think my best strategy is to stick to 1 or 2 games, likely Indy and the Vikes.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 29th, 2009
12:28 pm
While I’m thinking about it, The Skins upset the Eagles at the green zoo.
Bruno
November 29th, 2009
12:31 pm
“The Skins upset the Eagles at the green zoo.”
You’re going out on a big limb today, Reporter. If you’re right, I’ll sing your praises on Monday. I’m thinking about going with the Under bet on that game at 40 1/2.
Good luck with everyone’s picks today! Go Indy!!
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
12:32 pm
BRUNO–Luck! Pay for Liza? Whacha think youtube is there for?
Here in my little corner of Buckhead, only one Reed sign in view…the Argentine’s yard…hmm! No doubt that race will be a factor, but the “feeling” is less so than many might think. It’s pretty much a foregone conclusion that the vote of “those people” in Midtown and surrounding precincts will be the determining factor and neither candidate can take it for granted…
AmVet
November 29th, 2009
12:34 pm
Good points, B.
Intractable, that’s the word that applied. And maybe myopic…
Oh well, the title from song number five on that super spectacular debut record says it all.
(Sorry for the link, apparently Foreigner has the rights locked up tighter than a chastity belt and youtube is on the outside looking in…)
http://www.lala.com/#song/360569466644637394
Bruno
November 29th, 2009
12:51 pm
Final picks: Indy (-3) and Philly/Wash (Under 40 1/2).
AmVet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVu5kOirklM
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November 29th, 2009
1:05 pm
Given star billing by the IPCC, not least for the way it appeared to eliminate the long-accepted Mediaeval Warm Period when temperatures were higher they are today, the graph became the central icon of the entire man-made global warming movement. -Telegraph.UK
Dump Alternative Energy stocks – misc.invest.stocks | Google Groups
Uh oh, here comes the bottom again.
Sell, sell, sell.
Po little al-gore.
@@
November 29th, 2009
1:29 pm
An interesting approach on Senator Lugar’s part.
WASHINGTON — A top Republican senator wants to postpone efforts to overhaul health care until next year so Congress can concentrate on how to pay for President Barack Obama’s expected plans for expanding military operations in Afghanistan.
Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, the top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, says there’s need to be a sharp focus on Obama’s new strategy for the 8-year war and how much it will cost. — AP
Obama rushed the health care bill without knowing how to pay for it. He delayed his Afghanistan decision putting our troops at risk. Now he needs to delay the health care bill in favor of determining the cost of Afghanistan.
Very interesting.
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
1:35 pm
@I Report
If you were a soldier in Afghanistan, you would shoot your commanders?
Why don’t you volunteer to be a soldier in Afghanistan so that you can test your theory?
Could one interpret your no answer as that of being a blow-hard coward who pretends to be a patriot?
Only shows the difference between your mouth and your action!
I am glad that you are not a soldier, because most GI’s would not tolerate you and the bravado and bluster that would endanger their lives, wannabe!
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November 29th, 2009
2:23 pm
Fragging used to be so honorable, Jaggie.
What happened?
@@
November 29th, 2009
2:36 pm
Iran announces plans for 10 new uranium enrichment plants
Uhmmmm, Mr. President?
Midori
November 29th, 2009
2:43 pm
Happy Sunday all
Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving
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November 29th, 2009
2:56 pm
Uh oh, the big bird went down.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 29th, 2009
2:56 pm
QUESTION–
All y’all outside the city, who should I vote for for Mayor and why?
I’m a little late to this fray but since I don’t live there, I’ll leave to the good citizens there to determine their own fate. I do hope, for their sake, they can do something to stem the tide of what they’ve put up with for what seems like decades.
@@
November 29th, 2009
3:03 pm
Hey! Atlanta’s mayoral run-off made it to the WSJ.
Known for her combative style on the council, Ms. Norwood has received limited public support from elected officials..
There’s a good reason to vote for Mary.
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
3:30 pm
@I Report
Fraggin’ was never honorable. It was a tool used by those who did not have the gonads to stand up to those in command.
What about you and your fat lip? You don’t have the gonads to even attempt a despicable act like that, SLOW MOTION!
Matilda
November 29th, 2009
3:32 pm
Watched a friend die last night. Chemo sucks. Not gonna do it. If it could take her down, I’d never have a chance. She was the anti-wuss.
Dusty
November 29th, 2009
3:37 pm
Hi Midori,
Yes, Thanksgiving was fine. I am now down to ham sandwiches. Not even one turkey bone in sight. Anyway, you have been quiet lately. Hope you are not sick
Everyone here is in fine shape, fighting and fussing and fuming at a moderate pace. The name calling is hardly worth mentioning. Bookman will soon be back to get us all going again.
A day without namecalling is like cornbread without cracklins !. Anyway, just wanted to say Hi.
Be back later…..
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
3:39 pm
Matilda
Condolences to you and her family.
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November 29th, 2009
3:41 pm
Matilda- Sorry for the loss.
What kind of cancer?
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Jaggie- Obozo is sending kids to die in battle with their hands tied behind their backs in the most major way and only because the democrat party does not want to be labeled “surrender monkeys” again.
So who’s the bigger coward, me or him?
Midori
November 29th, 2009
3:44 pm
Hi Dusty,
no I haven’t been sick. Thanks for your kind thoughts.
I’ve been really busy trying to prepare for Christmas – my oldest granddaughter is coming to visit
She’s a freshman at Howard University, and I want to provide a festive and stress free atmosphere for her.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 29th, 2009
3:50 pm
The birds have to mull a 54 yard field goal, hahaha.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 29th, 2009
3:53 pm
Now they have to mull a 42 yarder which is just as perilous.
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November 29th, 2009
3:53 pm
What did I tell you?
Normal
November 29th, 2009
4:39 pm
Falcons win, Whiner!
Pogo
November 29th, 2009
4:48 pm
My God, Global warming scientists have been falsifying data? What is this melted down world coming to? This scheme was well thought out by the left. Take a leftist political agenda, add some influencial, unscrupulous scientists wanting grants and some greedy jerks like Gore and Soros and WALLAH! You have another worldwide crisis with which you can control people by and by which you can suck their money for your own gain. The beauty was that it could all be done in the name of doing something good. Barnum was right. Suckers really are born everyday.
Dusty
November 29th, 2009
5:02 pm
Wow,Midori.
Getting ready for Christmas!! I haven’t even gotten over Thanksgiving yet.
But I just ran up to Kroger for a couple of items and they have Christmas trees all lined up for sale.
Sounds like fun having a grand daughter for Christmas. Hope you can manage that stress-free atmosphere. I never make it. Usually, I’m still planning all those fancy ideas I see in magazines when it’s already Chrsitmas Eve. ….. Enjoy!!
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
5:05 pm
On global warming—both “sides” of the argument have been hijacked by their lunatic fringes in the politicization which, in this climate of polarization (no pun intended) the rational has left the stage.
Is global warming a reality? Yes. Those data are in and pretty much stand to scrutiny. Is it George Bush’s fault and is Al Gore going to turn down the thermostat? No doubt.
In plotting a course of action to deal with the phenominon, we are looking for blame and quick answers and no one seems to be addressing a key issue: how much of this is something we can control, carbon emissions, and how much is of a cyclical nature over which we have no control. Most likely it is neither all one or the other.
Chicken Little off to see the king or the Ostrich with head in the sand, the current approach is a convention of bird brains in my opinion.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
5:10 pm
DUSTY and MIDORI
Merry Christmas! I can say that now that Thanksgiving’s over. I do love this season of the year when peace and goodwill, children laughing, all is happy take over most of us in public as well as private and the Scrooge’s even get to celebrate with the rest of us…
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November 29th, 2009
5:19 pm
Is global warming a reality? Yes. Those data are in and pretty much stand to scrutiny.
Heard the news lately, yosef?
And by the way, who was responsible for the Medieval Warm Period when temperatures were higher they are today?
RW-(the original)
November 29th, 2009
5:26 pm
And by the way, who was responsible for the Medieval Warm Period when temperatures were higher they are today?
Renaissance fairs of course and today’s warming can probably be attributed to their resurrection.
DoggoneGA
November 29th, 2009
5:35 pm
“when temperatures were higher they are today?”
over and over and over
Dusty
November 29th, 2009
5:35 pm
josef,
I see you are all in a huff over the weather. Was it Will Rogers who said “Everybody talks about the weather but nobody does anything about it.” ?? Well, somebody said something like that. I’m not worried about controlling our emissions but I surely do wonder why nobody is after China and India about theirs. All the “treaties” I heard about excused C & I but put the screws to USA. Bush was smart and did not approve the big start up “treaty”. He was correct as far as I can see.
Anyway, josef, we had a fine church service today with a semi-nouveau-regular-contemporary service which was interesting with good music. The poetry selections were from The Crossings, a book by Susan Palo Cherawien. Some of her lines reminded me of “Unmentionable”. Thought he might like them.
Early in the new morn hours
Early, before the waking of the sky
Early, while the day yet sleeps
Navaho and Lakota
Cree and Ojibway,
The many People of the Land
Arise
To sing forth the sun.
Like a morning sacrifice of praise,
It is a duty, to sing forth the sun,
It is a prayer
and a need like breath
To know the universe awaits you
To sing forth the sun.
In a time of waiting,
When the dawn will come
As surely as the night,
In a time of waiting
It is a duty and a prayer
to sing forth
the sun.
Isn’t that nice?? There were more of her selections but I especially liked that one.. The music was everything from English folk songs to some jazzy spirituals to familiar hymns. Good way to start Advent.
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
5:36 pm
Headline (AP) GENEVA — “Swiss voters overwhelmingly approved a constitutional ban on minarets on Sunday, barring construction of the iconic mosque towers in a surprise vote that put Switzerland at the forefront of a European backlash against a growing Muslim population.”
Question: Hummmm ……… the Swiss are pretty decent, freedom loving people. Do they know something we don’t?
Answer: “”The minaret is a sign of political power and demand, comparable with whole-body covering by the burqa, tolerance of forced marriage and genital mutilation of girls,” the sponsors said. They noted that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has compared mosques to Islam’s military barracks and called “the minarets our bayonets.”
As I have said before, Islam is not just a religion ……… it is a political, religious, economic, educational, military system and we ignore that at our peril.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,577668,00.html?test=latestnews
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
5:37 pm
@I Report
Since your military skills are so profound, explain how they kids have their hands tied behind their backs? When the soldiers die in Afghanistan, they usually die from IED’s. Wonder if their training prevents them from this happening?
As a armchair general, you should know about these things.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
5:38 pm
whiner–
That is but some of the data which have been skewed and this happens all the time…it is just such as the Medieval warming period which cause me to question the all one or all the other approach
RW–
Best argument I’ve heard against the Society for Creative Anachronism et al…one of my boys plays with them…he doesn’t quite understand my objection that this was not a particularly romantic period for the Chosen!
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
5:43 pm
Headline (CNN) – “Iran’s Cabinet has authorized the construction of another 10 uranium enrichment plants, its state news agency announced Sunday, further defying international calls to halt its production of nuclear fuel.”
Listen …………. can you hear it ? ………………… those Israeli jets are warming up !
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November 29th, 2009
5:45 pm
Since your military skills are so profound, explain how they kids have their hands tied behind their backs?
Jaggie-
Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges. . . .
Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named “Objective Amber,” told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.
Most people don’t need the simple things explained to them.
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yosef- Say what?
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
5:47 pm
DUSTY–
Unmentionable says thank you for the sweet thoughts,and that it is a beautiful and spiritual poem, but that all in all, he’ll go with the electric blanket, central heat and air and indoor plumbing!
common sense–
I read that…it seems so alien to my American mentality…the Swiss, though, did write several chapters in the book of xenophobia…
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
5:51 pm
josef:
Good for them …….. it’s what has kept them a decent society for all of these years.
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
5:52 pm
@I Report
Shows you how good the American military is.
If the SEALS are being brought up on charges, the were accused of an infraction of military protocol. Does not matter who or what the subject was.
Why does that piece of information have your eye as it does nothing to further your argument relative to Afghanistan.
Apparently you need explanation about many things relative to military protocol.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
5:55 pm
whiner–
I think it’s way too early in the game to be coming to fast conclusions one way or the other…insofar as skewing data is concerned, that goes on all the time…
common sense–
I’ve been saying here all along that in the long run we’d be turning loose the little Israeli bulldog to do our dirty work, swat him with the daily fishwrapper once it’s done, bad puppy all over the place, but rest assured there’s a special bone awaiting…Brother Bibi ain’t nobody’s fool…
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
5:57 pm
@Common Sense
I believe if the Israeli armed forces attack Iran, the recession that we just experienced will be child’s play when the Iranians shut down the Straits of Hormuz, where 60% of the world’s oil traverses.
How do we resolve that?
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November 29th, 2009
6:01 pm
yosef- What about that big overriding factor that it is getting colder not warmer?
At what point do you get a clue?
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OK, jaggie, a bloody lip on the battlefield is a hangin offense, see, you answered your own question.
Now if you were only smart enough to know it….
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
6:04 pm
common sense..
Faulkner said of the Swiss that they “are not so much a nation as a small, clean, quite solvent business.” I’m not here to tell them how to run their business, but such things as prohibiting minarets is just Unamerican to me.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
6:08 pm
whiner–
The getting colder is, itself, an aspect of the warming trend, and the question is why that is so in certain areas of the planet and not in others…climatology is still in its infancy as a science and the climatologists will be the first to say so…only within our generation have we begun to understand the nino effect…
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November 29th, 2009
6:10 pm
In WW2, when men were men and liberals were still imprisoned within their little feminine shells, a woman and child killing terrorist who butchers Americans and hangs their bodies from bridges in his spare time would have been stood against the wall with his bloody lip and been shot to freaking death.
But now, in the age of “progressiveness,” we want scumbags to like us.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
6:12 pm
Jackie–
On the Straits of Hormuz and Iran blocking…don’t forget that Iran’s Arab neighbors, producers of much of that oil, are more than happy to see the Persian bomb taken out…don’t forget how quickly and how effectively the oil consumers took care of bidness in Kuwait…
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November 29th, 2009
6:12 pm
Yeah, yosef, part of that warming trend must have been the glaciers that carved out the North Georgia mountains or the trees and grass that used to grow in Iceland.
Get a grip, hysteritic.
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November 29th, 2009
6:20 pm
Oh good, the Bears “offense” again, three sacks and a punt.
Hey Lovie, now we got a 5 game season to the playoffs, you putz.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
6:24 pm
whiner–
“Get a grip, hysteritic.”
Not really. It’s way too early to draw conclusions. Iceland is getting warmer and the polar ice cap is receding and Georgia had a much cooler than normal summer…why? I don’t know but the two seemingly opposed phenomina merit a closer look…
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 29th, 2009
6:25 pm
On Switzerland:
Used to know a man who was German Swiss. He told me that the German Swiss tended to look down on the French Swiss. He also hated anybody from Germany and said the Germans hated the German Swiss, viewing them as inferior. So all is not peace and love there either.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 29th, 2009
6:28 pm
“According to the University of Illinois, Antarctic sea ice area is nearly 30% above normal and the anomaly has reached 1,000,000 km2. …
According to NSIDC, over the last 30 years Antarctic sea ice extent has been growing at a rate of nearly 5% per decade, and set a record maximum last year. …
Sadly though, biologists using computer models have forecast that some Penguins are headed for extinction due to loss of Antarctic sea ice. …
You have been snowed, yosef.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
6:32 pm
Hillbilly–
Back in college one of my Swiss friends said that all that finely tuned Swiss multi-culturalism was not an exercise in living together in peace and harmony, but an exercise in living apart in peace and harmony! She was Italian Swiss and had some rather interesting opinions on the German and French Swiss!
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
6:36 pm
whiner–
my point exactly…why is the Antarctic ice pack expanding while the Arctic is receding? It’s tied together, but how? We had a much cooler summer, a rainy October and here it is the first of December and the impatiens are still in full bloom and the yard needs mowing…why? I don’t know…
Jackie
November 29th, 2009
6:38 pm
@I Report
No one but you would have their logic so conflated that they would even consider anyone could be executed because the prisoner had a bloody lip.
General, you should articulate the regulations more clearly.
Where were liberals imprisoned within their feminine shells? It is against our rules of war to summarily execute a prisoner. You would have gone to jail for your rash, irrational behavior.
@josef
Unfortunately, many of the oil ports depend on the Straits and the Arab neighbors can not pump fast enough to make up for the shortage.
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 29th, 2009
6:41 pm
It is against our rules of war to summarily execute a prisoner.
This is true but I knew WWII Vets who would tell you prisoners were taken only when officers were around.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
6:46 pm
jackie–
Which is why the Straits would not be closed…the oil consumers and the oil producers would not tolerate it…a coalition of the French, British, American and Indian navies operating in the interests of the gulf states is not something the Persians are up for, rhetoric and show aside…
Dusty
November 29th, 2009
6:47 pm
Aww josef, 5:47
Tell Unmentionable I am really disappointed. I thought there was still one person left who got up with the sun and felt good about it. Indoor plumbing? Well, there goes the poetic moment!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 29th, 2009
6:51 pm
my point exactly…why is the Antarctic ice pack expanding while the Arctic is receding?
yosef- Are you serious?
A layer of ice up to two miles thick covers a continent as big as the United States and Mexico combined. Antarctic ice contains 70% of the world’s fresh water (90% of the world’s ice). If it were divided up, every person on Earth could have a chunk of ice larger than the Great Pyramid. Although 98% of Antarctica is ice, there is land underneath the ice cover, unlike the Arctic where the ice floats on top of the ocean.
What is your problem?
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Jaggie-
When the government captured a band of German infiltrators in the United States, FDR declared he would execute them no matter what any court said.
And he did. Electrocuted them.
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
6:53 pm
Josef:
Regarding the Swiss (and being UnAmercian) if you could look ahead 100 years and see that a certain practice would destroy this country and you had the ability to stop it now ……….. would you?
Jackie:
1) You know the Israeli’s will attack Iran because they see it as a threat to their very existance. Not if but when ………..
2) You keep the Straits of Hormuz open ……….. regardless of the consequences to Iran.
Hillbilly Deluexe:
It is rare (but it has happened especially in WWII and Korea) when the execution of prisoners is justified. I’ll give you an example ………….
You are attempting to hold an isolated hilltop position. Reinforcements are hours away. Your company has repulsed several assaults involving hand to hand combat, is down to 30 men, most are seriously wounded, very low on ammo and you have three prisoners from the last assault. You don’t have one man to spare to guard them. You can’t send them back to their lines or they will advise their officers just how weak you are. Here comes the next attack ……….. guess what?
War is hell.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
6:55 pm
DUSTY
He says to tell you the only way to watch the sun rise is if you’re still up from the night out! He says to tell all those white folks talking about it getting colder that he’s got a deal on some blankets!
I get tickled whenever some granola head starts waxing too eloquent on the spiritual nature of the Native American and Unmentionable says, “Well, my Gr-at Sp-rit is Nicene Creed confession!”
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
7:03 pm
“…Arctic where the ice floats on top of the water…”
So the water is getting warmer…why? But there is land underneath Greenland and its ice cap is receding…why this hemispheric difference?
common sense…
much of your argument was put forth during the massive immigration to the United States in the late 19th Century…the result was the tightening of immigration with a quota system and not refusing to allow construction of synagogues, Eastern Orthodox churches and the like…
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
7:08 pm
Josef:
I hear you but ………. you dodged my question.
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November 29th, 2009
7:15 pm
How did Greenland find it’s way into this?
Are you grasping for straws, yosef?
90% of the world’s ice and it’s growing, you still babble.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
7:16 pm
common sense–
See my 7:03…banning symbols may make this, that or the other group feel better but it does little to address what, it may be argued, is a problem. You ask about a future problem. I have a real problem myself with all the Yankee immigration and the changes they are bringing in demanding that we Southerners bend to their will and adopt their cultural norms. I see just your contention of a hundred years in the future being reduced to a minority in my own homeland…so what do you suggest? Ban the public use of “you guys?”
@@
November 29th, 2009
7:17 pm
Not to say their situation is any worse than others, but dang….just dang.
Michael Peters, 44, was dubbed Speedy Gonzales, “because I was so fast” adding clips, pins and foam strips to parts, he says. While working for Ford, he earned $800 and $900 every two weeks, which was enough to support his mother, Martha, in their home. “I was paying for all the household bills for me and my mom,” says Mr. Peters, who wears a photo of his now-deceased mother, on a metal tag around his neck.
Mr. Peters’s diligence, mirrored by many others, earned the respect of those around them. “A lot of regular guys in life think how to cheat and steal from the system,” says Mike Walker, who supervises Mr. Peters and others. “These guys work hard.”
Robert Ertle, the 30-year old who can’t walk, is industrious by nature. In the evenings, antsy to get out of his wheelchair, he will crawl out to the garage to clean his mother’s car.
“Lott is the best thing that ever happened to him,” says his mother, Ms. Cleveland.
they’re exceptional in so many ways.
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
7:18 pm
whiner–
What is happening in Greenland is part of the phenominon…
josef nix
November 29th, 2009
7:22 pm
It looks like Jay will get his 1000 without my help…gotta run and get ready to go back to the real world…thoroughly enjoyed time spent with y’all over the last few days…have a good week ahead…
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November 29th, 2009
7:25 pm
And how’s that, josef?
Care to elaborate?
Or don’t you deal with facts?
Common Sense
November 29th, 2009
7:42 pm
josef nix:
Deo Vindice ……………….
AmVet
November 29th, 2009
7:56 pm
Josef has left the building. Darn, just as I arrive.
But he got his first taste of dealing with the experts in the 101st Chairborne. (Meteorological Division!)
Silly rational kid.
It would seem the Tampon Bay Bucs are no better, or worse, than the Bambi’s of the Midway.
They can hang with the Falcons up until the last moment of the game.
And then……….lose!
Speaking of the Bare’sasses, did I really see that score correctly? 36 – 10???
Man, that’s gotta sting…
OK, as I failed to attend Sunday evening services (again), let me leave the faithful with this one…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57fycMDqvys
RW-(the original)
November 29th, 2009
8:10 pm
Somehow I don’t believe josef’s talk of a measured and cautious approach to the issue due to climate science being in it’s infancy squares with having wild eyed gorbasms over the “truth” behind anthropogenic global warming.
Besides, now we find out they threw away the raw data in favor of their “adjusted” data.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 29th, 2009
8:26 pm
Isn’t it funny that AmWet doesn’t have the stones to tell us his favorite sports team?
Let me guess, the Colts.
TnGelding
November 29th, 2009
8:31 pm
U.S. only #20 debtor nation?
http://www.cnbc.com/id/30308959
RW-(the original)
November 29th, 2009
8:36 pm
Recovery dot con
RW-(the original)
November 29th, 2009
8:49 pm
We already think we’re broke using the phony numbers.
When we correct for both gimmicks, counting both on- and off-budget costs over the first 10 years of implementation, the total cost of ObamaCare reaches — I’m so sorry about this — $6.25 trillion. That’s not a precise estimate. It’s just far closer to the truth than President Obama and congressional Democrats want the debate to be.
AmVet
November 29th, 2009
8:50 pm
The Baltimore Colts?
Oh yeah! As I laugh my ass off…
To paraphrase Casey Stengel, how did the Chicago Bambi’s ever win four games?