Happy Thanksgiving to one and all….

I hope everyone has a great day, surrounded by friends, family and bountiful food.

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Angry Black Man

November 26th, 2009
9:01 am

Jay

I hope your holiday is a great one, filled with the love that only family and friends can provide. Have a safe and Happy Turkey Day.

And for everyone else, I hope your day is a safe one filled with happiness and joy (and good food/football). Everyone be safe.

TnGelding

November 26th, 2009
9:02 am

Ditto from here. Indeed, we have much to be thankful for.

…and don’t forget those less fortunate. Our cups runneth over.

Common Sense

November 26th, 2009
9:07 am

I’m thankful for 95 year old veterans and their wisdom:

Dear President Obama,

My name is Harold Estes, approaching 95 on December 13 of this year. People meeting me for the first time don’t believe my age because I remain wrinkle free and pretty much mentally alert.

I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1934 and served proudly before, during and after WW II retiring as a Master Chief Bos’n Mate. Now I live in a “rest home” located on the western end of Pearl Harbor allowing me to keep alive the memories of 23 years of service to my country.

One of the benefits of my age, perhaps the only one, is to speak my mind, blunt and direct even to the head man.

So here goes.

I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do but you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.

I can’t figure out what country you are the president of. You fly around the world telling our friends and enemies despicable lies like:

· “We’re no longer a Christian nation”

· ” America is arrogant” – (Your wife even announced to the world,” America is mean-spirited. ” Please tell her to try preaching that nonsense to 23 generations of our war dead buried all over the globe who died for no other reason than to free a whole lot of strangers from tyranny and hopelessness.)

I’d say shame on the both of you but I don’t think you like America nor do I see an ounce of gratefulness in anything you do for the obvious gifts this country has given you. To be without shame or gratefulness is a dangerous thing for a man sitting in the White House.
After 9/11 you said,” America hasn’t lived up to her ideals.” Which ones did you mean?

1. Was it the notion of personal liberty that 11,000 farmers and shopkeepers died for to win independence from the British ?

2. Or maybe the ideal that no man should be a slave to another man that 500,000 men died for in the Civil War ?

3.I hope you didn’t mean the ideal 470,000 fathers, brothers,husbands,and a lot of fellas I knew personally died for in WWII,because we felt real strongly about not letting any nation push us around because we stand for freedom.

4. I don’t think you mean the ideal that says equality is better than discrimination. You know the one that a whole lot of white people understood when they helped to get you elected.

Take a little advice from a very old geezer,young man. Shape up and start acting like an American.If you don’t, I’ll do what I can to see you get shipped out of that fancy rental on Pennsylvania Avenue .You were elected to lead not to bow, apologize and kiss the hands of murderers and corrupt leaders who still treat their people like slaves.

And just who do you think you are telling the American people not to jump to conclusions and condemn that Muslim major who killed 13 of his fellow soldiers and wounded dozens more. You mean you don’t want us to do what you did when that white cop used force to subdue that black college professor in Massachusetts who was putting up a fight ? You don’t mind offending the police calling them stupid but you don’t want us to offend Muslim fanatics by calling them what they are,terrorists.

One more thing. I realize you never served in the military and never had to defend your country with your life but you’re the Commander-in-Chief now,son. Do your job. When your battle-hardened field General asks you for 40,000 more troops to complete the mission, give them to him. But if you’re not in this fight to win, then get out. The life of one American soldier is not worth the best political strategy you’re thinking of.

You could be our greatest president because you face the greatest challenge ever presented to any president.

You’re not going to restore American greatness by bringing back our bloated economy. That’s not our greatest threat. Losing the heart and soul of who we are as Americans is our big fight now. And I sure as hell don’t want to think my president is the enemy in this final battle.

Sincerely,
Harold B. Estes

Note: Snopes is rating the authorship as “undertermined” but the message is clear ……………

josef nix

November 26th, 2009
9:09 am

May each and every one of you have the best one yet!

N-GA

November 26th, 2009
9:47 am

(Lacks) Common Sense:

The EXACT quote is: “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation — at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.”

So if you just want to spread propaganda like Hitler, Stalin and other notable fascists, go ahead! BTW, this quote can be found everywhere on the web without any effort.

What you’ve done is post something that was probably written by one of those extreme right “authors”. Of course no one has been able to find Mr. Estes. I must say that he writes incredibly well for a 95- year old man. (sarc)

AmVet

November 26th, 2009
9:49 am

Ditto here, Jay and friends.

We all are amazingly lucky to be born Americans, aren’t we?!

Hopefully, unlike CO, many more than folks than not, will let go of their derision and petty opinions for this one day and enjoy it for what it is meant to be.

Here’s to fellowship, friends, family and football!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1q8a_B8kmY

AmVet

November 26th, 2009
9:55 am

Pardon me, make that CS…

mm

November 26th, 2009
10:12 am

Common sense,

You are as ignorant as the moron that wrote the letter.

Angry Black Man

November 26th, 2009
10:13 am

AmV

You DO realize that if some let go of their derision and petty opinions, they have nothing left, don’t you?

Have fun today, and be safe.

Normal

November 26th, 2009
10:17 am

Y’all, posted downstairs earlier, but I want to wish everybody a Happy Thanksgiving again. Today, let’s all think good thoughts of family, friends, and food. Happy thanksgiving all!

Clayton inmates

November 26th, 2009
10:34 am

Happy Thanksgiving to all from your “I didn’t do nothing wrong” inmate thug pals at the Clayton County jail who will enjoy a cold Thanksgiving meal today.

Remember our hot meals (like health care, a flat screen, cell phone, an Escalade, government provided housing and food) are a right!!!

TW

November 26th, 2009
10:37 am

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Tn – yes, ‘Our cups runneth over’…

And the meek shall inherit the earth :)

May we continue, on this day of thanks, to trend toward gratitude and away ungraciousness…

Let us continue to pray for those who are unable to see the Truth, those who continue to let irrational fear consume their souls.

Thanks for the forum, Jay – best blog in the land.

Common Sense

November 26th, 2009
10:38 am

To N-GA, mm, AmVet, ABM, et al:

Like I indicated at the end, the authorship cannot be verified but the message is clear.

I hope you read Obama’s Thanksgiving message to the nation yesterday. No mention of God whatsoever so I don’t know who we are to “thank”.

By the way AmVet ………….. are our troops fighting today? Yes they are …….. they don’t get to “let go” for one day in their real war so I don’t “let go” one day in the war against those who would destroy the Judeo/Christian fabric and liberty of this Republic. No “time outs”.

However, I will enjoy a little turkey and other delights this afternoon as I recall my Thanksgiving dinner of 1967 (a can of beans & weenies) in Quang Tri Province. “For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know”. Author Unknown – found written on a C-Rations box, Khe Sahn, 1968.

Thank you God for this wonderful day and in your mercy bless even those who turn their backs on you ……………….

refero quattuor

November 26th, 2009
10:46 am

By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.

Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor– and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.

Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be– That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks–for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation–for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war–for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed–for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted–for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.

and also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions– to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually–to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed–to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord–To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and us–and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.

Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.

Go: Washington

Angry Black Man

November 26th, 2009
10:47 am

Common Sense

I don’t plan to get involved in a day long heated battle over he said/she said stuff, but since you added my name to your list, I’ll address your comments.

I didn’t read Obama’s Thanksgiving message to the nation, nor do I really care what he said. You do realize that the United States does have freedom of religion. What you perceive as a lack of acknowledging G*d, may have been his attempt to allow people to insert the deity of their choice. Maybe he should have said so to make that point clear. There are those who are Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, and yes Muslims who are US citizens and do have the right to worship their G*d.

You really floor me. You complained about what people said about Bush and Conservatives, yet you launch the same attack against Obama and Liberals. I guess your name really says it all, though. You have to display common sense somewhere, because it sure isn’t in your posts.

By the way, have a wonderful Thanksgiving. I will pray to G*d that he neutralizes some of the bitterness in your heart.

AmVet

November 26th, 2009
10:53 am

CS, with b_llsh_t like yours, you should run for office!

That you compare your puerile writings and animosity to those in uniform and their sacrifice today is to me disgraceful and repulsive.

But worse for you, you can (and will) shove your god in people’s faces non-stop, and you will still never find any redemption.

OK, out and about for the things that matter today!

Enjoy this day, everyone!

TW

November 26th, 2009
10:58 am

If those on the right, who claim to know God, knew Him at all, they would not be ruled by the senseless fear that dictates their miserable, ungrateful lives.

May they find Him today :)

RW-(the original)

November 26th, 2009
11:13 am

To paraphrase josef from last night, Obama did mention himself several times during his address so he probably thinks that covered the Deity issue.

Happy Thanksgiving All

See you tomorrow.

Road Scholar

November 26th, 2009
11:19 am

I thought that one of Christ’s teachings was to love thy neighbor and to not judge others. God, whichever one you worship, will judge us upon our death. As we enjoy the Thanksgiving holiday and recollect what we are grateful for, hopefully we will take the time to refresh our spiritual understandings and commitments and how they should be apart of all our actions, thoughts and words. Peace to all, and Happy Thanksgiving. Bless our troops and leaders.

Skip

November 26th, 2009
11:31 am

I’d hate to hear how you folks respond to a “good morning”

Common Sense

November 26th, 2009
11:37 am

Isn’t it amazing that the Hindu, Buddist, Muslim and many other religions/civilizations developed over the centuries into the great bastions of democracy and respect for individual liberty that we know today? Hummmmm …………………… I’m sure they are very thankful that they are able to worship here as they please.

But in the Judeo/Christian colonies, even Thomas Jefferson, a slave owner, wrote “all men are created equal” knowing that he was setting the foundation to someday rid our country of slavery. The framers of our Constitution penned their names to it knowing also that its words would eventually bring freedom to all men. Find that in “any” other world civilization/religion without a Judeo/Christian heritage.

Personally, I am eternally grateful and thankful to God not just today but everydya for that heritage and the patriotism of our soldiers to be willing to give their lives to extend that freedom to others less fortunate. Those of you who have never fought for your country have no idea what that takes.

It is truly sad that so many hear the Liberty Bell tones of freedom echo back as bitterness and animosity. The problem is in your hearing ………. not the message.

As it says in the Holy Scriptures, “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord” and “The Truth shall make you free” !

Ooo Rah! Amen! Semper Fi! Happy Thanksgiving !!!

larry

November 26th, 2009
11:45 am

Congress shall not promote one religion !!! Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

It's about me, me, me

November 26th, 2009
11:51 am

Mm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

He said that all must lend a hand
To make this country strong again
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

He said we must be fair today
Equal work means equal pay
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said that we must take a stand
To make sure everyone gets a chance
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

He said red, yellow, black or white
All are equal in his sight
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

Yes!
Mmm, mmm, mm
Barack Hussein Obama

Song 2:
Hello, Mr. President we honor you today!
For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say “hooray!”

Hooray, Mr. President! You’re number one!
The first black American to lead this great nation!

Hooray, Mr. President we honor your great plans
To make this country’s economy number one again!

Hooray Mr. President, we’re really proud of you!
And we stand for all Americans under the great Red, White, and Blue!

So continue —- Mr. President we know you’ll do the trick
So here’s a hearty hip-hooray —-

Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray!

refero quattuor

November 26th, 2009
11:52 am

John 5:1-16). To them He says: “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”

Icarus

November 26th, 2009
12:19 pm

Happy Thanksgiving from the right side of the table, Jay. Hope you and the family have a good one.

refero quattuor

November 26th, 2009
12:19 pm

P.S. to Road Scholar:

I believe the passage you are probably referring to (Matt. 7:1) in your 11:19 post above about “not judging” has to do with “hypocritical judging”. Jesus commands many times elsewhere to “judge righteously”.

John 5: “To them He says: Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”

Matthew 18: “Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.”

If you would like additional illumination and passages :

http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/articles/judging.html

Normal

November 26th, 2009
12:30 pm

I’ll find G-d when I take that first mouthful of cornbread stuffing.
Have a great day, all

Angry Black Man

November 26th, 2009
12:33 pm

The American People

November 26th, 2009
12:35 pm

Obama has relied on “unprecedented” in more than 90 instances, using the word at least 129 times in everything from major addresses to small speeches, statements, memorandums and proclamations.

Unprecedented loss of popularity in 10 months
Unprecedented lies
Unprecedented corruption
Unprecedented smoke and mirrors
Unprecedented loss of the Olympics
Unprecedented Secret Service issues
Unprecedented spending
Unprecedented turkey

josef nix

November 26th, 2009
12:59 pm

TnGelding:
“Our cups runneth over.”

And let’s hope it’s just the cups, Joe the Plumber wants to spend the day with his loved ones, too!
:-)

Something to be thankful for we may not have thought of: in G. Washington’s address he at no point referred to the Un-versal in sectarian terms. Think about what that means coming from someone speaking over two centuries ago to our nation. As one who identifies with a people and a faith which spent almost 2000 years in the wilderness in unhospitable environments, this country, our nation, our first president made us welcome not as outsiders, but as “a part of the people” with a place to sink roots and call home.

As I look today at my family and guests there will be faces of many colors, politics of many shades, rich, poor and middle class, fans of opposing sports teams, tastes in music and reading from across the spectrum, and thanking our Cr-ator according to the dictates of many faiths and personal beliefs from the orthodox to the non-believers, The home will be the face of our America, that America our ancestors dreamed of when they addressed our finer nature.

I, for one, am grateful for that.

Of course, though, I’ll be sitting in the corner bad-mouthing the ones who aren’t there or who are out of earshot. We’re family. Families do that. :-)

Hillbilly Deluxe

November 26th, 2009
1:22 pm

In spite of all our problems, I’m thankful I was born in this country, thankful I was born into the family I was born into, and thankful I live where I live.

Road Scholar

November 26th, 2009
1:26 pm

CS: Here is what President Obama said:
http://www.dailykos.com/
If you go to read it, he mentions God in the first paragraph!

RQ: Thanks. Most people who “judge” are typically hypocrits! Happy Thanksgiving!

Midori

November 26th, 2009
2:49 pm

LOL!!!

i think you guys are right about CS – GOT to be Private Corporal.

He even posts the same INSANE manifestos!! :lol:

N-GA, mm, AmVet, ABM – you all better watch out.

Next he’ll put you on his “list”

ROFL!!!!

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

And Jay – this thread is useless without a picture of you in that blue tux :lol:

Tom

November 26th, 2009
3:09 pm

And the same to you, Jay! I think most of the posters here will be deeply into NFL – then continuing their struggle with – “My Pet Goat.”

Mr Right

November 26th, 2009
3:32 pm

Hope everybody is having a great Thanksgiving. Lets remember all our blessings come from God, so give Him thanks!

steven

November 26th, 2009
3:35 pm

Amvet & A.Blackman;

C.S. mentioned God…he did’nt mention Shiva, Allah, Jesus, or any other diety by name.
Other faiths are not assaulted,demeaned,leftout, or promoted by mentioning or acknowledging God- especially on Thanksgiving Day !

Pogo

November 26th, 2009
4:08 pm

You to Jay. This is a day that we should not through be looking through that cynical eyeglass that is politics but to celebrate just how damned fortunate we really are. Politics is going to destroy our nation if we don’t get ourselves under control.

stands for decibels

November 26th, 2009
4:10 pm

I’m thankful for having wonderful elderly in-laws to share Thanksgiving with in a few minutes.

And I’m thankful knowing that if I were to repeat what some fictional, senile old fool is quoted as saying above, to wit:

“I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do but you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.”

…that my father in law, a WWII vet who performed all manner of patriotic duties during his working life, would be happy to tell whoever wrote that nonsense to GFH.

later, all.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 26th, 2009
5:09 pm

Surrounded by a bounty of dead pheasants and mallard ducks, fixing to hot shower my wet and frozen a$$.

Then it’s back to the tail hunt.

Happy Thanksgiving all.

refero quattuor

November 26th, 2009
6:59 pm

To Road Scholar:

“RQ: Thanks. Most people who “judge” are typically hypocrits! Happy Thanksgiving!”

True …….. but it must be done or society will collapse! That’s why we have judges, juries, prosecutors, police officers, teachers, mothers, fathers, ministers, coaches, managers and a host of others who “judge” everyday on legal, business and moral issues just to name a few !

And by the way, guess what ……….. you even “judge” in your responses to others on these threads.

You can’t get away from it …………………..

NOMAD

November 26th, 2009
7:12 pm

I want to wish everyone a great and happy Thanksgiving. I hope you enjoy the time spent with family and loved ones.

I Report – any chance you were duck hunting on Lake Sinclair this morning around 7:30 – 8ish?

Blessings to all!
NOMAD

Mrs. Godzilla

November 26th, 2009
7:22 pm

too much turkey….too much mashed taters…..must close eyes……

hope y’all had as wonderful a day as we did.

Normal

November 26th, 2009
7:49 pm

OH GAWD! I have hurt myself! Must take Alka-Seltzer!!, Wait! Did you say there’s pecan pie left? Oh. I’ll be right there…OH GAWD, I’m going to hurt myself… ;)

Mrs. Godzilla

November 26th, 2009
8:16 pm

no more pie….just hand me a spoon and the leftover whipped cream…….

josef nix

November 26th, 2009
8:17 pm

It was everything it should have been! I’ll be on the Third Circle of Dante’s Inferno with the “gluttenous and supine!” :-)

Normal: the ghost of Abe was exorcised due to a certain book! :-)

josef nix

November 26th, 2009
8:18 pm

Mrs. G–
Leftover whipped cream! Not leftover until tomorrow! Waste not, want not, Granny always said!

Normal

November 26th, 2009
8:23 pm

Josef, what book???

OH GAWD, I HURT…

Dave R.

November 26th, 2009
8:36 pm

Happy Thanksgiving, josef!

josef nix

November 26th, 2009
8:37 pm

NORMAL–elsewhere on that!

“I can’t believe I ate the whole thing!”

Dave R.

November 26th, 2009
8:39 pm

AmVet, read in a previous thread that you climbed Mt. Ranier.

Thinking and hoping to do that myself, and was wondering about some things. How old were you when you did the climb, and what type of fitness level were you when you did it? I hear a good cardio level is key. And of course, did you make it to the top?

josef nix

November 26th, 2009
8:51 pm

Thanks Dave…back at ya! BTW–never did Ranier, but for the inexperienced, Mt. Baker outside Bellingham is more accessible as is Garibaldi outside Vancouver, BC. Baker, I understand from folks up there, has been doing some more serious rumblings of late…Have you been to the aptly named “G-d’s Country?” Spectacular doesn’t even begin to describe it!

Angry Black Man

November 26th, 2009
9:07 pm

Steven

Thanks for butting your nose in grown folks conversations.

“Other faiths are not assaulted,demeaned,leftout, or promoted by mentioning or acknowledging God- especially on Thanksgiving Day !”

If you care to show me where I even inferred those actions were committed, planned or even thought of in my earlier post, feel free to do so. When you refer to G*d, you can be general or specific. I don’t remember the exact verse, but in the bible it is mentioned that he goes by many names. The names you mention are all the names of G*d in different monotheistic religions. The Bible even calls him by different names in different verses. Check out this link if you care to. I’ll look for your response in the am if you have one.

“From Elohim to Abba: the intimate names of God”
http://www.intervarsity.org/studentsoul/item/names-of-god

Don’t think that you’re responding to an atheist. I grew up in the Baptist Church, and not only did I teach some Sunday School classes from time to time, I was also a youth speaker.

josef nix

November 26th, 2009
9:14 pm

ABM–
Happy Turkey Day to ya! Hope you’ve had some time with ABW and ABC…

On the names of G-d…In Arabic there are 99 names for the Alm-ghty. They say that the camel alone knows the hundredth name of All-h, accounting for that smug expression he wears!

Angry Black Man

November 26th, 2009
9:25 pm

josef

Once I got off work, we had some good quality time. The ABW is getting ready for work. Black Friday sales… She’s gotta be at work at 11pm to open the store at midnight.

I don’t think Mr. Steven realizes that G*d can be both specific and generic depending on how you use the name. I bet he also doesn’t know that the Sumerians, in their religious beliefs, also taught a story of the creation quite similar to the Old Testament. Different names, but the same story.

AmVet

November 26th, 2009
9:27 pm

Dave, I was 45 when I went up there. And it was only after I saw the IMAX film at Fernbank about Everest that I really got the bug. I couldn’t stop thinking about it and then out of the blue three weeks later, a scuba diving buddy of mine said he was thinking about Rainier and was I interested. I said how long until we can go?

He and I specifically trained for about a year and half. And I was already in very good shape. (Many hours in the gym and many others doing cardio work.)

We trained extensively with 50 pound packs on Kennesaw Mountain. One Saturday we did both Big and Little twice – about 11 miles total.

We also made a trip to Albuquerque and climbed Sandia Mountain. It’s a walk up but was still challenging as hell and, though we were both very accomplished snow skiers, we wanted to try to do some climbing at altitude.

Even with all that – Rainier still kicked my butt.

We both did really well but I’ll not kid you, it was the most difficult thing I’ve ever done.

The climb to Camp Muir is pretty damn tough in and of itself – about 5 hours and 5,000 vertical.

From there, the plan is generally to leave around midnight or so and try to summit. Even though it was in June, the week I was there it snowed like mad. We made it to about 12,500 but the guides were very worried about avalanche potential in this one section we had to go through and we turned around.

It was, of course, disappointing but we spent the day climbing seracs, etc and it was still a wonderful time.

In retrospect the memories and photos I have of that week are almost surreal.

As you probably already know it is the perfect training ground for the guys who go on to Denali, Aconcagua and Nepal. Apparently the conditions are pretty similar to Everest and it can be very, very dangerous. And a lot of people have died climbing Rainer.

All that said, taking up mountain climbing in your forties is not easy. It is not always, but pretty much a young(er) guys sport.

Yet, I am happy I did it. But it was enough for me and the “climbing phase” of my life!

I would say, if you are in very good physical condition and train properly – go for it!

No matter the outcome, it is a trip of a lifetime….

josef nix

November 26th, 2009
9:41 pm

ABM–
The story of Gilgamesh is very similar to the Great Flood and, more secular, the 12 central laws of Hammurabi are pretty much the Ten Commandments…

Angry Black Man

November 26th, 2009
9:45 pm

josef

Spot on. Almost all monotheistic religions have stories of the Creation that are pretty similar if I remember correctly. There are slight differences, but they all pretty much follow the same pattern. The older religions also share common stories/parables with the Old Testament. I’ve done a little reading on different religions. Curiosity got the best of my when I was younger. I wanted to know what the differences were between religions.

Angry Black Man

November 26th, 2009
9:56 pm

10pm…

Time to go close the eyes and wait on the alarm. Night all

refero quattuor

November 26th, 2009
10:02 pm

To Angry Black Man:

You have a good theological background. Regarding names then, I assume you are familiar with these crucial verses from Acts chapter four:

“Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

…………. and as Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through Me.” “Except you believe in Me, you are dead in your sins.” “He that believeth in Me is not condemned, but he that believeth not is condemned already because he hath not believed in the name of the Only Begotten Son of God.”

Truly something to be eternally thankful about on this special day ………………

josef nix

November 26th, 2009
10:03 pm

ABM–
One of those “little” sidelights in history that speaks to what we’re talking about here has to do with the early and relatively frictionless “conversion” of the Choctaw to Christianity. There was an effort on both sides to look for the commonalties between the two belief systems and among them were the stories of creation, a great flood, a journey from afar in search of a Promised Land, etc.

Once we break away from the didactic and begin to look more closely at our belief systems and the amalgamation of elements one from the other, these stories take on a deeper meaning speaking to the universal human experience.

josef nix

November 26th, 2009
10:06 pm

Would love to go into a discussion of comparative theologies, but the body is overriding the spirit, and it’s off to the Land of Nod…

refero quattuor

November 26th, 2009
10:07 pm

josef nix:

I hear you but only one religion teaches about the “Lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world.”

I also refer you to my 10:02. It either is the only way or it isn’t. I choose to believe the words of Jesus …………….

DoggoneGA

November 26th, 2009
10:44 pm

“It either is the only way or it isn’t.”

Hon, no one is trying to convert you to a different belief system. They only ask the courtesy that YOU not do that either.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 26th, 2009
11:38 pm

A couple of aspiring reality-TV stars from Northern Virginia appear to have crashed the White House’s state dinner Tuesday night, penetrating layers of security with no invitation to mingle with the likes of Vice President Biden and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

They just followed all the rest of the freaks in, haha.

And I know that you libs are babbling that Obozo was in no danger because all guests get x rayed, blah, blah, but that’s BS, somebody that wanted to could have snapped his neck.

No weapons needed.

By the way, how does Brian Williams, PMSNBC, get invited to a “state dinner,” doesn’t that kind of reek of impartiality?

And where was your invite, bookman, lackey?

"refero quattuor"

November 26th, 2009
11:51 pm

Doggone/GA:

But alas my friend, Jesus does not agree with that “courtesy”. You miss the point of what He commanded Christians to do ………

“Jesus said, go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel to ever creature, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.”

If there was another way, He sure commanded us to waste a lot of unnecessary miles ………..

But he also created you with a free will and it’s your decision ……………. may you make the right one.

God bless ………………

steven

November 26th, 2009
11:51 pm

Happy Thanksgiving A.blackman;
My problem was speed reading the comments. Also, making a post after stuffing my face w/turkey and then being in a hurry to get back to the woods for the evening hunt. I’ve been in the mountains ever since deer & bear season opened and got out of touch with blogging, communicating & socializing in general.
Actually my meaning of intent was to make the point of the generic aspect the word- God.

P.S. I’m probably older than you are and it’s a good bet not to presume what I don’t know about Sumerians (or anything else).
I’ll be setting my alarm for early morning too. When I’m stumbling thru the woods in the dark looking for an ambush site, I’ll think of you dealing with Black Friday or just going to work. Whatever, I hope you enjoy it ! I’ll wish you a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year,now, since Deer Season is not over till January…it will be awhile before I see ya around….

Angry Black Man

November 27th, 2009
4:19 am

steven

Enjoy your hunting, and I wish you a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and a good successful Hunting Season. And yes, I’m getting dressed to go to work. The type of hunting I do has no beginning or end to the season. It’s a year-round, ongoing ordeal. My targets are a little different from yours, however. I primarly hunt threats to our great country, whether it’s illegal aliens, terrorists, or drugs. I appreciate you thinking of me, as my job is sometimes a thankless job.

Last, accept my appologies for assuming the depth of your knowledge. Although I believe age is not the most important indicator of knowledge, I do not know you, nor do I know the extent of your education thru scholastic achievement or life experience.

USinUK

November 27th, 2009
5:36 am

Dave and JoNix …

re: mt baker – one of my best friends made the summit about 10 years ago – my brother tried but got extreme altitude sickness the day they were supposed to summit … both of them said it was gorgeous, but that you need to do some serious training before taking on something like that.

hope everyone has recovered from their tryptophan coma!! in the meantime, I’ve been sitting here patiently … where’s my pie???!!!

Angry Black Man

November 27th, 2009
5:57 am

U-n-U

No time for tryptophan here. Already on the job doing what I do best. Sleep is for the weak!!

USinUK

November 27th, 2009
5:58 am

ABM –

good grief – if I got as little sleep as you do, I’d be the Queen of Cranky! I hope you, at least, have some good tunes cranking …

Angry Black Man

November 27th, 2009
6:02 am

I usually get about 4-6 hours a night. It’s good to have a cranky edge with my job. That way people know I mean business. I usually get about 24oz of coffee in before I get started too. I’ve got a little headbanging going on with Metallica, Judas Priest, et al… :)

Rightwing Troll

November 27th, 2009
6:11 am

I hate to do this I really do, because I’m afraid it will cause a deep divide between you folks here…

But stuffing or dressing???

I had dressing, and was none to happy about it, but alas I was at my sister’s house this year, so I had to defer to the hostess’ menu planning…

USinUK

November 27th, 2009
6:17 am

ABM –

4-6 hours??? criminey, I know new parents who get more sleep than that …

don’t know if you’re a Doonesbury fan, but the new character Toggle is right up your alley:

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20091028

Angry Black Man

November 27th, 2009
6:17 am

RT

I’m a dressing guy myself, but I will do stuffing if that’s what is on the menu. I have a few different recipes for dressing including a cajun style complete with andouille sausage.

USinUK

November 27th, 2009
6:18 am

RT –

stuffing OR dressing?? you mean you can’t have both???

Angry Black Man

November 27th, 2009
6:41 am

UnU

Haven’t read Doonesbury in a minute, I’ll have to check him out.

Normal

November 27th, 2009
7:27 am

MR. PRESIDENT, BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!

USinUK

November 27th, 2009
7:30 am

g’morning, Normal!! did you have a good day yesterday??

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 27th, 2009
7:32 am

State of GA unemployment numbers are out!

10.4% for Sept 09
10.4% for Oct 09

6.9 one year ago.

I wonder if those 10.4% are thankful ObaMao is pres? So…did the kenyan choke on a turkey neck yesterday?

Normal

November 27th, 2009
7:33 am

USinUK, yes, it was wonderful. I have a Great Grand Daughter, 18 months, who would come up to me and point and ask “Santa?”. We all agree it’s probably becauce I have a short white beard, up deep inside I think she’s wise beyond her years. :D

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 27th, 2009
7:33 am

6.9%, that is.

Normal

November 27th, 2009
7:34 am

Good morning Booger, business as usual?

Normal

November 27th, 2009
7:37 am

Going to head out shopping in a bit. Lovely…

USinUK

November 27th, 2009
7:40 am

“Going to head out shopping in a bit.”

Normal … whatever you’re on, I want some! there is not enough money on this planet, no matter the currency, to get me to shop the day after Thanksgiving …

Angry Black Man

November 27th, 2009
7:40 am

Normal

Too late to go shopping. There’s nothing left in the stores. When I was driving to work this morning, you would have thought it was 7-8pm with all the people out and about. Every store by my home had lines all over the place except for Home Depot.

USinUK

November 27th, 2009
7:43 am

I’m glad you had a good turkey day yesterday (and to celebrate it with a great granddaughter must have been a blessing beyond words!)

:-)

Normal

November 27th, 2009
7:44 am

ABM, yeah, I know…but the wife
———————
USinUK, Thanks.

USinUK

November 27th, 2009
7:49 am

Booger – I suppose it’s Obama’s fault that Dubai looks to be going bankrupt …

(not to mention, the flooding in Cumbria and the fires in Australia)

Finn mccool

November 27th, 2009
7:53 am

Krugman at NYtimes has an excellent piece on taxing wall St financial transactions. Good idea. Think of all those day traders getting a tax bill on even the minor transactions.

I work in the whiskey business where 58% of the price you pay for a bottle of spirits goes to the tax man. These traders can pay up too.

Normal

November 27th, 2009
7:57 am

Well, off to face the masses…back later. The wife bribed me with breakfast at Waffle House…she knows my weak spot… :D

USinUK

November 27th, 2009
7:58 am

Finneus – long time no see … and belated happy thanksgiving to you!! hope you had a great day!!

don’t know that I necessarily agree with the taxation of all transactions – who gets taxed? the trader or the ultimate investor? and why should an investor like a pension fund get taxed when they’re just practicing prudent management of their investors funds???

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 27th, 2009
8:04 am

Finn mccool

November 27th, 2009
7:53 am

Instead of hating Wall Street, day traders and most things representing financial gain why not join them. Its not that difficult.

Rightwing Troll

November 27th, 2009
8:15 am

“Instead of hating Wall Street, day traders and most things representing financial gain”

Should be:

“Instead of hating Wall Street, day traders and most things representing financial gain without doing lick of work”

Sigh!….

Why do “conservatives” hate work and those that engage in it???

Mrs. Godzilla

November 27th, 2009
8:29 am

My groceries are taxed. My new washer was taxed.

Instead of hating the eaters, washers and most of the normal American people…why not join them?

Right now it is pretty difficult.

Boogers for the Children Fund

November 27th, 2009
8:31 am

Rightwing Troll

November 27th, 2009
8:15 am

Why be such a sour-puss. Read the books and learn how to day-trade or invest longterm, if you have enough movtivation.

You dems just hate movtivated, working individuals and that a shame for you.

PS…Im at work today…you?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 27th, 2009
8:32 am

These Moonbats never rest-

Tony Blair could have delayed the 2003 invasion of Iraq and ensured better plans were in place for its chaotic aftermath by taking a tougher stance with President George W. Bush, Britain’s ex-ambassador to Washington said Thursday. Christopher Meyer, Blair’s U.S. envoy from 1997-2003, told a panel investigating the Iraq war that Blair failed to use his influence with Bush to stall the frantic rush to invasion.- Urinal

Nothing but incessant teeth gnashing and babbling from a so called “news” organization, the AJC, pure propaganda rag-

The Iraq Resolution or the Iraq War Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 [1], Pub.L. 107-243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War.

They just woke up one morning 5 months before the invasion and here’s Bush, all of a sudden, itching to invade Iraq, so of course, they all voted yes on his whim.

Resolution 1441, Nov. 8, 2002: “Decides that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations under relevant resolutions. … Decides … to afford Iraq … a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations … with the aim of bringing to full and verified completion the disarmament process established by resolution 687.”

Here we are 4 months before the invasion and Bush is still itching, except now he needs permission from the United Nations for his whim rush to war.

The 2003 invasion of Iraq, (from March 20 to May 1, 2003) was led by the United States, backed by British forces and smaller contingents from Australia, Denmark, Poland and Spain.

Wow, that’s pretty good, tricking all those unwitting nations, one day their soldiers are at home with the family, the very next day, whammo, in the desert shooting at ragheads. All those tanks, howitzers and Humvees, they just popped up out of the sand, battle ready.

Small thumb sucking children at the AJC.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 27th, 2009
8:39 am

Jobless rate holding steady-Urinal

Unemployment in metro Atlanta at 10.4% as labor force shrinks.

It’s good to see that an absolute catastrophe in the labor market is good reason to be happy, looking for the upside, AJC, especially after the last decade when the unemployment rate falling to 4% was cause for you libs to shriek like sissies and tear at your clothing.

Biased much?

Mrs. Godzilla

November 27th, 2009
8:39 am

If Blair knew there were no WMDs we knew.

….and I’m proud to be an American…..where at least we learn the truth eventually…….

Mrs. Godzilla

November 27th, 2009
8:42 am

Under Reagan unemployment reached 9.7%…..he didn’t have Bush deficits and multiwars.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!

November 27th, 2009
8:43 am

Think of the larger issue at hand, DuhZilla, the AJC thinks you are a foamingly stupid pet rock of theirs and they slant and spin their “news” tailored to your ignorance.

Ain’t America great?