Cutting the ‘2 Big 2 Fail’ down 2 size
In the discussion about banks that are “too big to fail,” I think you start with two observations:
1.) In general, competition and the discipline of failure are better, smarter regulators than government bureaucrats. That doesn’t mean government regulation is unnecessary; it does mean that regulators should be empowered to do only what the market cannot or will not do.
2.) Banks that are “too big to fail” are largely immune to the discipline of failure and to the rigors of competition.
That in turn leaves you with two basic solutions: You can greatly expand the gov’t regulation applied to the “2 Big 2 Fail,” or you can reduce and limit the size of those institutions and by doing so reintroduce the spectre of failure to the system.
There’s a move afoot in Congress to take the second approach, and I hope they have the guts to carry it out.
From the Los Angeles Times:
Angered by bailouts that have kept corporate titans such as American International Group Inc. afloat, members of a key House committee last week voted to give the government vast new power to downsize private companies, something that happens now only in the most egregious antitrust cases.
Instead of helping cushion the fall of Wall Street powerhouses through government aid or variations on traditional bankruptcy, there is growing momentum in Congress to cut those firms down to size before they start teetering to limit the damage if they do collapse.
“The era of the big bank is over,” said Simon Johnson, an MIT professor and former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund.
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RW-(the original)
November 24th, 2009
11:20 pm
climb!
RW-(the original)
November 24th, 2009
11:22 pm
Skeered me when Hillbilly D jumped in, but I kept my poise and despite him and the evil moderator telling me to slow down because I was posting too fast I made it.
/bows like Obama before anyone with an interesting sounding title….
Hillbilly Deluxe
November 24th, 2009
11:23 pm
Congrats on that 301 thing. Off to bed for me.
Rightwing Troll
November 25th, 2009
6:06 am
“Corporal- If I would have caught Ahmed Hashim Abed, he would have had a lot more than just a bloody lip. The dude likes to hang people from bridges and that is where I would have started.
No matter what Obozo felt about it.”
Well… I guess it’s a darn good thing for him that he didn’t show up there in your mom’s basement…
Angry Black Man
November 25th, 2009
6:44 am
G’morning All
Seems like I missed out on some fun yesterday evening. That’s the first time I’ve seen a parody of a parody get snippy with someone here. lol!!
Angry Black Man
November 25th, 2009
6:54 am
Today in history:
1715 – 1st English patent granted to an American, for processing corn
1744 – Austrian forces pillage & kill Jews of Prague
1758 – Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is founded.
1817 – 1st sword swallower in US performs (NYC)
1841 – 35 Amistad survivors return to Africa
1863 – Battle of Missionary Ridge, Tennessee
1864 – Confederate plot to burn NYC, fails
1864 – Confederate retreat at Sandersville, Georgia
1867 – Alfred Nobel patents dynamite
1884 – John B Meyenberg of St Louis patents evaporated milk
1920 – 1st Thanksgiving Parade (Phila)
1940 – Woody Woodpecker debuts with release of Walter Lantz’s “Knock Knock”
1941 – German Jews in Netherlands declared stateless (lose of nationality)
1952 – Only win ever for NFL’s Dallas Texans (11-1) beats Bears 27-23
1955 – Race segregation forbidden on trains & buses between US states
1960 – 1st atomic reactor for research & development, Richland Wa
1963 – JFK laid to rest at Arlington National Cemetery
1966 – Jimi Hendrix Experience makes its London debut at Bag O’ Nails Club
1971 – “Dan Cooper” jumps with $200,000 out of plane over Washington
1973 – Maximum speed limit cut to 55 MPH as an energy conservation measure
1979 – Israel returns Alma oilfields in Gulf of Suez to Egypt
1983 – World’s greatest robbery 25,000,000 pounds of gold, Heathrow, England
1986 – Iran-Contra affair erupts, Pres Reagan reveals secret arm deal
1996 – After 24 years, Disneyland Main Street Electrical Parade, ends
Normal
November 25th, 2009
7:21 am
MR. PRESIDENT, DO NOT RAISE TROOP LEVELS IN AFGHANISTAN. BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!
Normal
November 25th, 2009
7:26 am
ABM, 1864 – Confederate plot to burn NYC, fails
Dang, (sorry Scooter), I’m sorry we missed that one…
———–
Good morning and Happy Thanksgiving Eve! I hope your birds are thawed and resting. That’s the secret, you know. That, plus a garlic butter rub twice a day until its put in the oven. Stuffed and golden. Yummy, yummy, yummy.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 25th, 2009
7:27 am
Hunt on for Darwin’s ‘Species’ notebook- British authorities say they’re searching for a leather-bound notebook Charles Darwin used in developing his theory of natural selection.- Urinal
Maybe it “evolved” into an ash heap?
Anyway, you can’t find the “book” or any proof hahahaha, heathens.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 25th, 2009
7:30 am
NATIONAL CITY, Calif. — A tempest in a trash can is brewing in San Diego County, where ACORN is trying to recover tens of thousands of documents taken from its garbage by a Republican activist.-Urinal
Capiche?
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 25th, 2009
7:32 am
Climate bill skeptics probe e-mail thefts. -Urinal
The crime is not defrauding the nations of the world of Trillions of dollars, the crime is “stealing” the emails, according to the AJC, anyway.
TW
November 25th, 2009
7:34 am
Seriously though, if the right has the corner on ‘hard work’ – why is the base so fat and out of shape? Go to the Wal-marts in the red parts of town and tell me I’m wrong
I mean, vicarious soldiering in one thing, but at least get a freakin’ job if you’re gonna complain about the gov’t…and maybe eat a carrot now and again…, what with the way they got to play war in Iraq without actually getting shot at, so maybe they do the same thing with ‘hard work’?
But then, why actually work hard, when all you have to do is pretend to?
Why actually help out the less fortunate when there’s no fee in claiming you’re a Christian?
God I miss the real Republicans…
Angry Black Man
November 25th, 2009
7:34 am
Normal
It would be interesting to see how history would have changed had they succeeded.
Somebody else is doing the bird this year. Gotta work tomorrow, so it will be just another day except for the big meal after work. Don’t eat too much!!
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 25th, 2009
7:36 am
In your face-
$7 million package approved for AIG chief, Benmosche told AIG employees in a letter earlier this month that while he was frustrated by the regulatory oversight he was committed to staying on at AIG. -Urinal
For 7 mil, I stick around too.
Normal
November 25th, 2009
7:38 am
TW
November 25th, 2009
7:34 am
Look at Luchovich’s cartoon this morning…says it all
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ABM, My doctor told me he didn’t want to see me breaking his rules this holiday season…I told him to look the other way.
Truth hurts
November 25th, 2009
7:40 am
Hope wains.
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/11/mish-unemployment-projections-through.html
We cannot run $trillion deficits every year forever. It just won’t work. And as soon as the Fed steps off the gas and/or Congress steps off the stimulus we will see this recovery for the hot air it really is.
Yet, in spite of all those generous assumptions, no double dip recession, no second recession, high rates of job growth and falling participation rates all the way through 2020, and unemployment peaking at 11.6% not 13%, the best I can do is suggest the unemployment rate will be over 10% all the way through 2015 and never dip below 8% all the way out through the end of 2020.
“On average, the economists don’t expect unemployment to fall below 6% until 2013.”
It could take until 2014-15 before we see a 5% handle on unemployment again,” said Diane Swonk at Mesirow Financial.”
Yeah Right.
Happy Job Hunting
Angry Black Man
November 25th, 2009
7:41 am
TW
LMAO!!!
Normal
Don’t let the doc hit you with an unsportsmanlike conduct. lol!!
Angry Black Man
November 25th, 2009
7:42 am
truth hurts
The reason why people are unemployed is because they’re looking in the wrong areas. Border Patrol had to lower their standards to hire officers.
Boogers for the Children Fund
November 25th, 2009
7:42 am
First year budget expenditures…
Clinton 1.6 trillion
Bush (W) 1.8 trillion
Obobo 2.8 trillion
Thanks kenyan
PS…last evenings hairstyle worn by “The First Lantern-Jaw” was awful.
Normal
November 25th, 2009
7:43 am
ABM, It would be interesting to see how history would have changed had they succeeded.
I read a book once about what would have happened if the South had won. Two things were interesting. One, slavery would have ended by itself as technology improved enough to make it unprofitable, and two, the most surprising, North America would have been fierce enemies with England for helping the South win. They would have gone to war against England in both World Wars, if they had happened. It was a strange read.
AmVet
November 25th, 2009
7:44 am
Happy Turkey Day Eve all.
Normal, thank you for your consistent demands for George W. Bush II to do the right thing.
In my estimation, you are a good man and a good American!
And in that spirit I will always stand beside you when I say:
STOP THE WAR. NOW.
Angry Black Man
November 25th, 2009
7:53 am
That does sound interesting Normal. The world would indeed be different had we gone against England in WWI & II. I’ll have to look for some reading material on that. I’ve read about the ending of slavery, but haven’t read on any opinions of the more modern events.
Normal
November 25th, 2009
7:53 am
AmVet, send the White House and the Democratic Party a love note every day. Tell them how you feel. We have to all work to stop the madness and bring them home.
I’m taking the time this Thanksgiving to talk to my Grandkids about war and what’s going on in the world. Some of them are of Military age and I want to dispel any delusion they might have about the “glory” of war.
I have already threatened a nephew with a broken limb if he tried to join up without talking to me first. I’d go with him and keep him from becoming cannon fodder.
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 25th, 2009
8:00 am
It is amusing to see mainstream media sources such as the New York Times, which thinks nothing of publishing purloined government documents that will endanger the lives of U.S. soldiers in the field, and compromise vital intelligence operations, suddenly become all jowly and uptight about publishing the e-mails in question because they were “illegally obtained.”-David Warren
In the face of such overwhelming evidence, the liberals continue to lie.
Does that surprise anyone?
AmVet
November 25th, 2009
8:05 am
Normal, good on you!
Young people need good information to make good choices.
When my son approached me two and a half years ago and said he wanted to enlist, I was pretty shocked and had very mixed feelings. And I flashed back to the day he was born and wondered if and when I might have this conversation with him.
He told me his plan – to become a language expert/translator – and I asked him if this was HIS idea. (I was slightly concerned that his mother and her ex-Army officer hubby had “suggested” this path.)
He told me no, that he alone had made this decision, and I told him I’d support him 100%.
We shared my experiences and I gave him a hug and a kiss and sent him on his way…
TnGelding
November 25th, 2009
8:06 am
Boogers for the Children Fund
November 25th, 2009
7:42 am
You’d better check those figures. That 1.6 was the start of Clnton’s second term. It ws 1.409187 for the first term.
Rounding off, Bush would have been 1.7 in 2001, instead of 1.6. More importantly, what was their last full year expenditures?
Clinton: 1.789067 in Y2K.
Bush: 2.757831 in 2008 (est).
Also worth noting:
Revenue was over $2 trillion in Y2K and didn’t return to that lofty figure until 2005.
Scooter
November 25th, 2009
8:06 am
Dang Normal, I’m sorry we missed that one too! Send me to hell or NYC, it would be about the same to me.
TnGelding
November 25th, 2009
8:08 am
Normal
November 25th, 2009
7:21 am
Go to rethinkafghanistan.com and sign the petition!
Jackie
November 25th, 2009
8:12 am
Enter your comments here
s
November 25th, 2009
8:12 am
I agree that they should shrink but lets extend that idea – SHRINK THE BLOODY GOVERNMENT!
Dave R.
November 25th, 2009
8:12 am
Happy Anniversary to Charles Darwin’s “On The Origin of Species”!
What’s the difference between “On the Origin of Species” and Anthropomorphic Global Warming?
One is based on science and one is based on lies.
Normal
November 25th, 2009
8:13 am
One other thing I’m doing this Thanksgiving which has become a tradition in the Normal household. I started doing it when my kids were alot younger and then the older grandkids got into it and now it’s time to indoctrinate the younger ones. We all go into my den and I put in the cassete, and we sing along with Arlo Guthrie’s “Alice’s Resturant”. All 18+ minutes. Then we go and eat. Family bonding. In a weird way sure, but it’s still family bonding.
TnGelding
November 25th, 2009
8:14 am
Boogers for the Children Fund
November 25th, 2009
7:42 am
Correction: Rounding off, Bush would have been 1.9 instead of 1.8 in 2001.
Normal
November 25th, 2009
8:15 am
AmVet
November 25th, 2009
8:05 am
I’ll think about you and your son tomorrow. Salute to the both of you.
Normal
November 25th, 2009
8:16 am
Tn, Thanks to you too and I will
Jackie
November 25th, 2009
8:16 am
A simple idea that helps in our current situation relative to Afghanistan would be start the draft or raise taxes on the wealthiest to pay for the war.
It appears those who opposes health care reform base their opposition on perceived costs. The question now is, should we pay the cost in treasure and lives to prop up a known corrupt government, or should we pay our treasure on upgrading our health care system?
Angry Black Man
November 25th, 2009
8:16 am
Normal
Tradition is tradition no matter how weird it seems.
Dave R.
November 25th, 2009
8:21 am
Jackie, a simpler idea regarding Afghanistan would be to just get out.
A simpler idea on getting health care costs down would be to actually attack the problems in our health care system, not pass a bill that 38% of the people don’t want. Most of us want health care reform, but only the die-hard liberals want this useless monstrosity.
Normal
November 25th, 2009
8:23 am
Tn, done and done…friends too.
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
8:26 am
No one says it better than Irving Berlin (unless it’s Bing singing Irving Berlin):
I’ve got plenty to be thankful for
I haven’t got a great big yacht
To sail from shore to shore
Still I’ve got plenty to be thankful for
I’ve got plenty to be thankful for
No private car, no caviar
No carpet on my floor
Still I’ve got plenty to be thankful for
I’ve got eyes to see with
Ears to hear with
Arms to hug with
Lips to kiss with
Someone to adore
How could anybody ask for more?
My needs are small, I buy them all
At the five and ten cent store
Oh, I’ve got plenty to be thankful for
Happy (early) Thanksgiving, fellow Bookmaniacs!!
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
8:27 am
Normal –
“all go into my den and I put in the cassete, and we sing along with Arlo Guthrie’s “Alice’s Resturant”. All 18+ minutes.”
if you lived in DC, you wouldn’t have to pop in a cassette, one of the local stations plays it every year at 3 …
Normal
November 25th, 2009
8:28 am
USinUK, And a Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours! Are you doing traditional?
Normal
November 25th, 2009
8:29 am
UsinUK your 8:27…That is really cool. Maybe I could get a station here to do that.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 25th, 2009
8:30 am
Well, good morning everybody. I’m awful sorry things got so nasty to mike yesterday but I didn’t have nothing to do with it. Like I told him last night.
Anyhow, we’re all set for the big feast tomorrow at the trailer. Thinking about it got me to thinking about the first one me and the missus had. She didn’t know they took the gizzard and liver and all that stuff and put it in a plastic bag they put in the inside of the turkey. Anyhow, when the turkey was about half cooked all this smoke from the plastic started coming from the oven.
I plan on being nice to everybody today and I expect the same from everybody on this blog. So even if mike gets on here and calls me a bigot again today I don’t want nobody to respond. I figure he’s a smart man, just dumb at times. We all got our cross to bear. We can’t be Norman Einstein all the time.
Have a good day everybody.
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
8:33 am
Normal –
“USinUK, And a Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours! Are you doing traditional?”
I tried it one year … but, Thanksgiving isn’t the same when you are with people who don’t have it as a tradition (not to mention, there are no parades on the teevee, much less football games) …
so, tomorrow will be anudder day in the office … where I am thankful to be employed and working with great colleagues …
Boogers for the Children Fund
November 25th, 2009
8:33 am
I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm!
November 25th, 2009
8:00 am
Seems thats what they are best at…lying.
TnGelding
November 25th, 2009
8:37 am
Boogers for the Children Fund
November 25th, 2009
8:33 am
…and correcting inaccuracies.
Gale
November 25th, 2009
8:38 am
Angry Black Man, You got me thinking about the fall of the Confederacy. It was the battles in late fall and early winter on your history day. I suspect the milder weather in the South was a factor. Instead of staying home to heal during severe weather, the North was able to push into the South. The South was put into a more defensive position. I don’t know if that idea has any merit since I am not well versed in war or that war in particular. But you made me think.
Normal
November 25th, 2009
8:41 am
USinUK, tomorrow will be anudder day in the office … where I am thankful to be employed and working with great colleagues …
Tomorrow I’ll lift a turkey leg in your honor…
Gale
November 25th, 2009
8:45 am
:Sigh: There are no legs on the turkey I have; a mere breast of turkey. My partner doesn’t like a lot of left-over turkey. I think it comes from being an Army brat and growing up in Thailand, Italy and Germany.
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
8:46 am
Normal –
“Tomorrow I’ll lift a turkey leg in your honor”
nah – just eat an extra helping of cornbread dressing for me … yummmm
Dave –
“not pass a bill that 38% of the people don’t want. Most of us want health care reform, but only the die-hard liberals want this useless monstrosity”
so, according to your post 62% of Americans are now “die-hard liberals”??? exmellent!!!
Normal
November 25th, 2009
8:46 am
Gale,
By those dates the war was nearly over. Lee surrendered in April of 1865. Atlanta had all ready been burned and Sherman was completing his march to the sea.
GI
November 25th, 2009
8:48 am
It’s no wonder so much fraud is taking place when neither the Small Business Administration nor the Department of Veterans Affairs maintains lists of individuals who are valid service-disabled veterans to check against before awarding contracts.
Normal
November 25th, 2009
8:48 am
USinUK, got got it…with pleasure!
AmVet
November 25th, 2009
8:50 am
USinUK, after this BushCo induced recession, and their ardent attempts at implementing a second Great Depression, I’ve been thinking of this song recently!
(Ella Fitzgerald & Louis Armstrong – I’ve Got Plenty of Nothing from 1957)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umJujS_zDcA
Jackie and Normal, I for one, am curious as to how these chickenhawks and neo-cons of the War First, War Last, War Always Party – who didn’t make the FIRST peep at all for six plus years – are ONLY NOW becoming cutters and runners!
A shocking inexplicable development I tell you!
But having watched them closely for years, many of us know the real reason. And it isn’t war fatigue. It isn’t a new found rational approach to the geopolitical realities. And it certainly doesn’t have anything to do with a new found spine.
ONLY when there is a CiC with an R after his name do the heroic conned pound their chests and scream their vicarious bloodlust. (Remember Kosovo?)
ONLY when they get absolutely destroyed at the polls in back to back elections do the 101st Chairborne finally realize the consequences of electing their craven frauds as “leaders”.
Otherwise, their true disgusting colors always come to the surface…
Jackie
November 25th, 2009
8:50 am
@Dave R.
I agree with you about removing our troops from Afghanistan. The war there is senseless.
Health care reform is needed because we can not afford to continue with our current system.
If we do nothing, within a decade the estimates are health care will consume more than 50% of our economy. Today, it is roughly 15%.
Ask yourself the question, what does the health insurance companies bring to the equation in providing health care?
Dave R.
November 25th, 2009
8:51 am
Sorry USinUK, got my numbers mixed up. That would be only 38% WANT.
And of course, that would include you. Because government is God for you libs, right?
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
8:51 am
AmVet – Ella and Louis??? darlin’, you’re a man after my own heart!!!
Gale
November 25th, 2009
8:52 am
Thanks Normal. I should take a lesson from my father and study up on the War of Northern Agression (aka Civil War). It was a very interesting period There was so much going on in the world. It was about so much more than slavery.
Scooter
November 25th, 2009
8:53 am
Normal, Lee did’nt surrender! He thought Grant was a blacksmith and handed his sword to him to be sharpened.That’s my story and I am sticking to it.
AmVet
November 25th, 2009
8:57 am
USinUK, I knew you’d like it!
Here’s a great, great anti-war song. She won’t give it up unless he won’t go to war no more.
Now that is power!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNs2uoFT_u4
Jackie
November 25th, 2009
8:58 am
@AmVet
You are now witnessing a true dose of reality on the part of the keyboard warriors.
They talk about what they would do and how they would do it, without giving consideration as to how enormous and dangerous the problem they face.
Those that always claim what they would do in a war because of the training our troops receive, don’t have a clue. I ask them, what one do when the target you have selected starts to shoot back? You aim is not as good as it once was while bullets, shrapnel, explosions and human misery surround you. Different mindset.
Jackie
November 25th, 2009
9:01 am
@GI
Simple! No bid contracts awarded to those well-connected companies and individuals.
david wayne osedach
November 25th, 2009
9:02 am
We poured more than $50 billion into GM and they are not paying back a cent. Are they too big to fail?
Normal
November 25th, 2009
9:03 am
Scooter, I thought Lee gave Grant his sword and said, “No, you carve the roast”
Dave R.
November 25th, 2009
9:03 am
Jackie, if you read my post (and stopped believing the lamestream media), you’d know that I (and most people) are not in favor of doing nothing regarding health care reform.
The difference is in the approach. To answer your question above, what health care companies bring to the equation is a system that over 80% of Americans are happy with. So why blow that system up?
Fix the PROBLEMS, Jackie.
I’ve said this all along. Even Mrs. G. at one point supported this plan.
1. Enact tort reform to lower malpractice insurance costs and end excessive and needless defensive testing for simple issues.
2. Allow insurance companies to offer their products across state lines.
3. Encourage insurance companies to offer group policies towards job classifications such as real estate agents or auto workers, rather than by employer.
4. Expand Medicare coverage for ONLY those people with existing pre-conditions that private companies won’t take and for those below the poverty level that cannot buy insurance, but require that a 3/4 majority be put in place to keep Congress from expanding that pool when it suits their re-election fancies. That would be the extent of a government option.
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
9:04 am
Dave –
“And of course, that would include you. Because government is God for you libs, right?”
nah … Stevie Ray Vaughn is (was) …
as for me, I’m for the single-payer system … always have been, always will be …
Gale
November 25th, 2009
9:05 am
Why do you think Americans really go to war? Self defence? Spreading our culture? For many years, war was for the purpose of gaining territory and resources. Some countries still wage war for territory and resource. Is it our reason for waging war that has us persistenting ly failing? Is the truth that we do not have a firm idea of what we are fighting for?
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
9:06 am
AmVet –
“She won’t give it up unless he won’t go to war no more.”
Lysistrata … Greek wimmen-folk put that plan into action hundreds of years ago …
AmVet
November 25th, 2009
9:06 am
Jackie, I saw a post here recently along the lines of “a terrorist should never leave the battlefield alive”.
And I understand the sentiment.
BUT, what the never-served, never-will faketriots cannot seem to fathom is that this is not WWII or even Korea.
The enemy doesn’t wear nice easily identifiable uniforms with Terrorist emblazoned all over them.
They are mixed in with and hidden amongst the general populace and the innocents.
There is no classic battlefield, it is everywhere and anywhere.
And so the dangers and possibility of death are almost non-stop.
And this romanticized, outdated notion is one of the MANY reasons these keyboard kommandos are as you rightfully note, freaking clueless…
Normal
November 25th, 2009
9:06 am
Jackie, AmVet. If you could just take a keyboard warrior out to a real night time firefight. They would never play again.
Gale
November 25th, 2009
9:07 am
Here, here! on Stevie Ray Vaughn, there are none to replace him.
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
9:12 am
Gale –
when I get to the Pearly Gates, I just have one question:
why-oh-why did he take SRV and leave us David Lee Roth??? whyyyyyyy???!!!
Scooter
November 25th, 2009
9:15 am
Normal, I guess we are both right. You have to sharpen the sword before you can carve the roast!
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
9:17 am
AmVet –
your 9:06
forget the polite golf clap … you get raucous applause for that …
Dave R.
November 25th, 2009
9:18 am
Speaking of freaking clueless, AmVet, how are you doing today now that your precious Anthropomorphic Climate Change “theory” has been fully discredited?
Gotta love those libs who fake data while keeping their government contracts in place to pay them for doing work they couldn’t get paid to do in the private sector.
Bruno
November 25th, 2009
9:24 am
Holiday greetings to all. Special shouts out to ABM, Normal, AmVet, TnGelding, Gale and USinUK.
No publication yet on my Jerry tat, USinUK:
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=52964950&albumId=2421163
Normal
November 25th, 2009
9:25 am
Scooter, you are absolutely right sir!
Have a big day planned tomorrow?
Normal
November 25th, 2009
9:26 am
Howdy, Bruno! Happy Thanksgiving day Eve.
Scooter
November 25th, 2009
9:27 am
Hey Vets, I spent my time during Nam on the flightline(71 & 72)where it was nice and safe. And,like Normal, I still say
MR.PRESIDENT,BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!!!!!
Normal
November 25th, 2009
9:28 am
Wow Bruno, I like the sailing ship!
Bruno
November 25th, 2009
9:31 am
“And this romanticized, outdated notion is one of the MANY reasons these keyboard kommandos are as you rightfully note, freaking clueless…”
USinUK–A few weeks ago, we debated whose “fringe” element was crazier, the left or the right. After going a few rounds with Team Jesus the other night, I’m ready to concede defeat.
AmVet
November 25th, 2009
9:32 am
“as for me, I’m for the single-payer system … always have been, always will be …”
Right on, girlfriend.
Happy Turkey Day Eve Bruno!
I found some fantastic musical stuff and associated stories to share with you when the proper “special” time is here!
Bruno
November 25th, 2009
9:33 am
“Wow Bruno, I like the sailing ship!”
Any opinion about the Jerry? I had the hair filled in a little more since that pic, looks even better now. The artist, Cap Szumski, is supposed to be profiled in Skin and Ink magazine one of these days when they get around to publishing it.
Normal
November 25th, 2009
9:33 am
Scooter, Welcome home. I had a high school friend who served with the Air Force at Cam Rahn Bay ‘68-’70. He was flight line too. He said he was always dealing with mortars and snipers. Life couldn’t have been that much better in ‘71.
Esquire09
November 25th, 2009
9:34 am
Facts in evidence here. Some people have a life outside this blog. Others don’t
and the sh!!te goes on.
Rightwing Troll
November 25th, 2009
9:35 am
Yep, the 101st Chairborne, the GOP, Republicans, “conservatives”, local nut sacks…
They all live in a world of supposition, “this” will happen when Obozo does that, “this” will happen if obozo doesn’t do that…
Not a single solitary example will materialize on how Obozo’s actions or policies adversely affect any one of their lives. Some of the local nut sacks literally never see the light of day, so it’s hard to imagine how they manage to get a true picture of local, national, or world events, yet they postulate here all day long about the world as they see it, or rather as it’s described to them by their masters.
The problem with their clairvoyance is that it didn’t seem to work at all from the years 2000 to 2008, worked for 6 years before that, and it’s worked ever since Jan 20, but there’s a large gap there in between those periods of (in)accurate predictions made…
Bruno
November 25th, 2009
9:35 am
“I found some fantastic musical stuff and associated stories to share with you when the proper “special” time is here!”
Looking forward to it, Bud. I’ll check in on Friday nights, but may be a little scarce the rest of the time. Arguing about politics isn’t really my bag. My interests tend more toward the eternal.
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
9:36 am
Hey B-dog!! and a VERY happy turkey-day to you, my friend!! I’ll have to look up the pic when I get home (curse you, firewall!!!)
“After going a few rounds with Team Jesus the other night, I’m ready to concede defeat”
hahaha … yep, both sides definitely have our nutty-nut-nuts … oy! but, we should give thanks for them, too … without the fringey elements, how else could we define the middle??!!
Scooter
November 25th, 2009
9:37 am
Nothing special for Thanksgiving Normal.I have invites from several friends to eat with thier families but opted to go to the woods and spend some time with Mother Nature. I wish a HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you and your’s and everyone else here also!!!!!!
Normal
November 25th, 2009
9:37 am
Bruno, Garcia? Yeah that one’s good too. Is it yours? I like the nautical stuff and would get one now if I wasn’t so old ad wrinklely.
The only tat I have is my unit symbol, but it was half destroyed by a bullet.
Normal
November 25th, 2009
9:39 am
Scooter, you can do the woods Friday or Saturday, but be with friends tomorrow. That’s what the day is about. You deserve it!
Bruno
November 25th, 2009
9:39 am
“The only tat I have is my unit symbol, but it was half destroyed by a bullet.”
Now that’s a tattoo that tells a story!!
One of these days, USinUK will reveal what the subject of her tats are.
How about you, Am, got any cool ones? Anyone else?
Bruno
November 25th, 2009
9:42 am
“hahaha … yep, both sides definitely have our nutty-nut-nuts … oy! but, we should give thanks for them, too … without the fringey elements, how else could we define the middle??!!”
Good point. I’m always fascinated by the fact that the most judgmental, unfriendly people almost always turn out to be self-proclaimed Christians.
Bosch
November 25th, 2009
9:43 am
“I’m always fascinated by the fact that the most judgmental, unfriendly people almost always turn out to be self-proclaimed Christians.”
I’m
really I am.
Bruno
November 25th, 2009
9:43 am
As for me, I’m very judgmental as well, but it’s simply because I’m a pompous ass. No religious excuses needed!
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
9:44 am
Bman …
“One of these days, USinUK will reveal what the subject of her tats are”
I thought I already did! In honor of my mom, I have a phoenix that is mostly celtic knots (she taught me that it is always possible to rise from the things that would destroy you), and on my ankle, I have a way-cool sun design that I really liked …
Bosch
November 25th, 2009
9:44 am
Bruno,
Me, well, I’m horribly prejudiced against dumb asses.
Dave R.
November 25th, 2009
9:45 am
Yeah, Troll, we think it is so much better to simply ignore the future consequences of Hope & Change’s actions and live for today – like, you, for instance.
Why don’t you man it up and answer this question, Troll:
How are you going to pay off the $13 TRILLION debt he keeps adding to?
USinUK
November 25th, 2009
9:45 am
Bruno –
I don’t like to think of myself as judgemental … just an elitist